Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

[Ryan Mano]

?i alsways find auto on cisco is betterwhen i try to lock it down radios 
are always half duplex or vice versa


From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 4:15 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

I have had lots of problems with Cisco auto.  I always lock it down.

From: Ryan Mano<mailto:rm...@corp.mdswireless.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 2:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors


?cisco gear... i leave auto on ciscos


From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Andreas Wiatowski 
<andr...@silowireless.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 2:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

What type of switches/routers do you use? Mikrotiks...can be very problematic.

Cheers,
__
Andreas Wiatowski | CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
Email  andr...@silowireless.com
19 Sage Court
Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)
Tel +1.519.449.5656  Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free 
+1.866.727.4138

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mano
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 2:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors


brand new...i replaced the old moto ones (beige? ones)


From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Chuck 
McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

CRC errors are frequently a surge suppressor issue.  Sometimes they get wounded 
and cause errors.

From: Ryan Mano<mailto:rm...@corp.mdswireless.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:24 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors


?i am using chucks surges and no there is no FM radio on them


From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Sean 
Heskett <af...@zirkel.us<mailto:af...@zirkel.us>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

do the towers have and FM radio stations on them?

-sean


On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Ryan Mano 
<rm...@corp.mdswireless.com<mailto:rm...@corp.mdswireless.com>> wrote:

most of my battles are at the tower...checking surges checking cables...all 
check out and I still end up replacing it

also I notice an increase in Ethernet Link Detected and Ethernet Link Lost  
under stats in cambium radios either being APs ot BHs




From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Ken 
Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

If this is customer end, we get surge suppressors partly blown by lightning 
causing CRC errors.  Next most common is critters partly chewing through cable.


From: Justin Wilson<mailto:li...@mtin.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:46 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

A lot of what I have seen is probably just from personal experience, which 
makes it not too scientific.  For example, We typically hardest the UBNT radios 
and left the Mikrotiks to auto.  Things seemed happier this way. The Gigabit 
specification says it should be auto everything. Sometimes this can have issues 
between vendors.



Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net<mailto:j...@mtin.net>

---
http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
xISP Solutions- Consulting - Data Centers - Bandwidth
http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric

On May 24, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Ryan Mano 
<rm...@corp.mdswireless.com<mailto:rm...@corp.mdswireless.com>> wrote:


Want to hear how you guys go about handling crc errors on your radios?

Like check duplex or check cables etc.

Noticing in the past month or so am seeing an increase in crc errorswhen I 
doI change the duplex from 100 to 10base and it runs with no errors but the 
customer are not happy...sometimes I just can't put it into 100base crc just go 
nuts

Lets here your battles with crc's

Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

[Chuck McCown]

I have had lots of problems with Cisco auto.  I always lock it down.  

From: Ryan Mano 
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 2:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

​cisco gear... i leave auto on ciscos





From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Andreas Wiatowski 
<andr...@silowireless.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 2:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors 

What type of switches/routers do you use? Mikrotiks…can be very problematic.



Cheers,

__

Andreas Wiatowski | CEO

Silo Wireless Inc.

Email  andr...@silowireless.com

19 Sage Court

Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)

Tel +1.519.449.5656  Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free 
+1.866.727.4138



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mano
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 2:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors



brand new...i replaced the old moto ones (beige​ ones) 




From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors 



CRC errors are frequently a surge suppressor issue.  Sometimes they get wounded 
and cause errors.  



From: Ryan Mano 

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:24 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors



​i am using chucks surges and no there is no FM radio on them




From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors 



do the towers have and FM radio stations on them? 



-sean





On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Ryan Mano <rm...@corp.mdswireless.com> wrote:

  most of my battles are at the tower...checking surges checking cables...all 
check out and I still end up replacing it



  also I notice an increase in Ethernet Link Detected and Ethernet Link Lost  
under stats in cambium radios either being APs ot BHs




--

  From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:51 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors 



  If this is customer end, we get surge suppressors partly blown by lightning 
causing CRC errors.  Next most common is critters partly chewing through cable.





  From: Justin Wilson 

  Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:46 AM

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors



  A lot of what I have seen is probably just from personal experience, which 
makes it not too scientific.  For example, We typically hardest the UBNT radios 
and left the Mikrotiks to auto.  Things seemed happier this way. The Gigabit 
specification says it should be auto everything. Sometimes this can have issues 
between vendors. 







  Justin Wilson

  j...@mtin.net



  ---
  http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO

  xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth

  http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman

  Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric



On May 24, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Ryan Mano <rm...@corp.mdswireless.com> wrote:





Want to hear how you guys go about handling crc errors on your radios?



Like check duplex or check cables etc.



Noticing in the past month or so am seeing an increase in crc errors….when 
I do….I change the duplex from 100 to 10base and it runs with no errors but the 
customer are not happy…sometimes I just can’t put it into 100base crc just go 
nuts



Lets here your battles with crc’s

Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

[Ryan Mano]

?cisco gear... i leave auto on ciscos


From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Andreas Wiatowski 
<andr...@silowireless.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 2:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

What type of switches/routers do you use? Mikrotiks...can be very problematic.

Cheers,
__
Andreas Wiatowski | CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
Email  andr...@silowireless.com
19 Sage Court
Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)
Tel +1.519.449.5656  Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free 
+1.866.727.4138

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mano
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 2:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors


brand new...i replaced the old moto ones (beige? ones)


From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Chuck 
McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

CRC errors are frequently a surge suppressor issue.  Sometimes they get wounded 
and cause errors.

From: Ryan Mano<mailto:rm...@corp.mdswireless.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:24 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors


?i am using chucks surges and no there is no FM radio on them


From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Sean 
Heskett <af...@zirkel.us<mailto:af...@zirkel.us>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

do the towers have and FM radio stations on them?

-sean


On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Ryan Mano 
<rm...@corp.mdswireless.com<mailto:rm...@corp.mdswireless.com>> wrote:

most of my battles are at the tower...checking surges checking cables...all 
check out and I still end up replacing it

also I notice an increase in Ethernet Link Detected and Ethernet Link Lost  
under stats in cambium radios either being APs ot BHs




From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Ken 
Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

If this is customer end, we get surge suppressors partly blown by lightning 
causing CRC errors.  Next most common is critters partly chewing through cable.


From: Justin Wilson<mailto:li...@mtin.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:46 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

A lot of what I have seen is probably just from personal experience, which 
makes it not too scientific.  For example, We typically hardest the UBNT radios 
and left the Mikrotiks to auto.  Things seemed happier this way. The Gigabit 
specification says it should be auto everything. Sometimes this can have issues 
between vendors.



Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net<mailto:j...@mtin.net>

---
http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
xISP Solutions- Consulting - Data Centers - Bandwidth
http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric

On May 24, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Ryan Mano 
<rm...@corp.mdswireless.com<mailto:rm...@corp.mdswireless.com>> wrote:


Want to hear how you guys go about handling crc errors on your radios?

Like check duplex or check cables etc.

Noticing in the past month or so am seeing an increase in crc errorswhen I 
doI change the duplex from 100 to 10base and it runs with no errors but the 
customer are not happy...sometimes I just can't put it into 100base crc just go 
nuts

Lets here your battles with crc's

Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

[Chuck McCown]

There was a time in history where the AP had errors on a good perfect cable 
until you put in a surge suppressor.  Then the errors went away.  

From: Ryan Mano 
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

brand new...i replaced the old moto ones (beige​ ones) 





From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors 

CRC errors are frequently a surge suppressor issue.  Sometimes they get wounded 
and cause errors.  

From: Ryan Mano 
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:24 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

​i am using chucks surges and no there is no FM radio on them





From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors 

do the towers have and FM radio stations on them? 

-sean


On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Ryan Mano <rm...@corp.mdswireless.com> wrote:

  most of my battles are at the tower...checking surges checking cables...all 
check out and I still end up replacing it


  also I notice an increase in Ethernet Link Detected and Ethernet Link Lost  
under stats in cambium radios either being APs ot BHs




--

  From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:51 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors 

  If this is customer end, we get surge suppressors partly blown by lightning 
causing CRC errors.  Next most common is critters partly chewing through cable.


  From: Justin Wilson 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:46 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

  A lot of what I have seen is probably just from personal experience, which 
makes it not too scientific.  For example, We typically hardest the UBNT radios 
and left the Mikrotiks to auto.  Things seemed happier this way. The Gigabit 
specification says it should be auto everything. Sometimes this can have issues 
between vendors. 



  Justin Wilson
  j...@mtin.net

  ---
  http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
  xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth


  http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
  Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric

On May 24, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Ryan Mano <rm...@corp.mdswireless.com> wrote:


Want to hear how you guys go about handling crc errors on your radios?

Like check duplex or check cables etc.

Noticing in the past month or so am seeing an increase in crc errors….when 
I do….I change the duplex from 100 to 10base and it runs with no errors but the 
customer are not happy…sometimes I just can’t put it into 100base crc just go 
nuts

Lets here your battles with crc’s

Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

[Andreas Wiatowski]

What type of switches/routers do you use? Mikrotiks…can be very problematic.

Cheers,
__
Andreas Wiatowski | CEO
Silo Wireless Inc.
Email  andr...@silowireless.com
19 Sage Court
Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)
Tel +1.519.449.5656  Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free 
+1.866.727.4138

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mano
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 2:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors


brand new...i replaced the old moto ones (beige​ ones)


From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Chuck 
McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

CRC errors are frequently a surge suppressor issue.  Sometimes they get wounded 
and cause errors.

From: Ryan Mano<mailto:rm...@corp.mdswireless.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:24 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors


​i am using chucks surges and no there is no FM radio on them


From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Sean 
Heskett <af...@zirkel.us<mailto:af...@zirkel.us>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

do the towers have and FM radio stations on them?

-sean


On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Ryan Mano 
<rm...@corp.mdswireless.com<mailto:rm...@corp.mdswireless.com>> wrote:

most of my battles are at the tower...checking surges checking cables...all 
check out and I still end up replacing it

also I notice an increase in Ethernet Link Detected and Ethernet Link Lost  
under stats in cambium radios either being APs ot BHs




From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Ken 
Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

If this is customer end, we get surge suppressors partly blown by lightning 
causing CRC errors.  Next most common is critters partly chewing through cable.


From: Justin Wilson<mailto:li...@mtin.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:46 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

A lot of what I have seen is probably just from personal experience, which 
makes it not too scientific.  For example, We typically hardest the UBNT radios 
and left the Mikrotiks to auto.  Things seemed happier this way. The Gigabit 
specification says it should be auto everything. Sometimes this can have issues 
between vendors.



Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net<mailto:j...@mtin.net>

---
http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric

On May 24, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Ryan Mano 
<rm...@corp.mdswireless.com<mailto:rm...@corp.mdswireless.com>> wrote:


Want to hear how you guys go about handling crc errors on your radios?

Like check duplex or check cables etc.

Noticing in the past month or so am seeing an increase in crc errors….when I 
do….I change the duplex from 100 to 10base and it runs with no errors but the 
customer are not happy…sometimes I just can’t put it into 100base crc just go 
nuts

Lets here your battles with crc’s

Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

[Ryan Mano]

brand new...i replaced the old moto ones (beige? ones)


From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

CRC errors are frequently a surge suppressor issue.  Sometimes they get wounded 
and cause errors.

From: Ryan Mano<mailto:rm...@corp.mdswireless.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:24 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors


?i am using chucks surges and no there is no FM radio on them


From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

do the towers have and FM radio stations on them?

-sean


On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Ryan Mano 
<rm...@corp.mdswireless.com<mailto:rm...@corp.mdswireless.com>> wrote:

most of my battles are at the tower...checking surges checking cables...all 
check out and I still end up replacing it


also I notice an increase in Ethernet Link Detected and Ethernet Link Lost  
under stats in cambium radios either being APs ot BHs




From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Ken 
Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

If this is customer end, we get surge suppressors partly blown by lightning 
causing CRC errors.  Next most common is critters partly chewing through cable.


From: Justin Wilson<mailto:li...@mtin.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:46 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

A lot of what I have seen is probably just from personal experience, which 
makes it not too scientific.  For example, We typically hardest the UBNT radios 
and left the Mikrotiks to auto.  Things seemed happier this way. The Gigabit 
specification says it should be auto everything. Sometimes this can have issues 
between vendors.



Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net<mailto:j...@mtin.net>

---
http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
xISP Solutions- Consulting - Data Centers - Bandwidth

http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric

On May 24, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Ryan Mano 
<rm...@corp.mdswireless.com<mailto:rm...@corp.mdswireless.com>> wrote:


Want to hear how you guys go about handling crc errors on your radios?

Like check duplex or check cables etc.

Noticing in the past month or so am seeing an increase in crc errorswhen I 
doI change the duplex from 100 to 10base and it runs with no errors but the 
customer are not happy...sometimes I just can't put it into 100base crc just go 
nuts

Lets here your battles with crc's

Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

is it their feelings that get hurt? did you put the feels in the surge
suppressors chuck?

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> CRC errors are frequently a surge suppressor issue.  Sometimes they get
> wounded and cause errors.
>
> *From:* Ryan Mano <rm...@corp.mdswireless.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:24 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] crc errors
>
>
> ​i am using chucks surges and no there is no FM radio on them
> --
> *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Sean Heskett <
> af...@zirkel.us>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:00 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] crc errors
>
> do the towers have and FM radio stations on them?
>
> -sean
>
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Ryan Mano <rm...@corp.mdswireless.com>
> wrote:
>
>> most of my battles are at the tower...checking surges checking
>> cables...all check out and I still end up replacing it
>>
>> also I notice an increase in Ethernet Link Detected and Ethernet Link
>> Lost  under stats in cambium radios either being APs ot BHs
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Ken Hohhof <
>> af...@kwisp.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:51 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] crc errors
>>
>> If this is customer end, we get surge suppressors partly blown by
>> lightning causing CRC errors.  Next most common is critters partly chewing
>> through cable.
>>
>>
>> *From:* Justin Wilson <li...@mtin.net>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:46 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] crc errors
>>
>> A lot of what I have seen is probably just from personal experience,
>> which makes it not too scientific.  For example, We typically hardest the
>> UBNT radios and left the Mikrotiks to auto.  Things seemed happier this
>> way. The Gigabit specification says it should be auto everything. Sometimes
>> this can have issues between vendors.
>>
>>
>>
>> Justin Wilson
>> j...@mtin.net
>>
>> ---
>> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
>> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
>>
>> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
>> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>>
>>
>> On May 24, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Ryan Mano <rm...@corp.mdswireless.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Want to hear how you guys go about handling crc errors on your radios?
>>
>> Like check duplex or check cables etc.
>>
>> Noticing in the past month or so am seeing an increase in crc
>> errors….when I do….I change the duplex from 100 to 10base and it runs with
>> no errors but the customer are not happy…sometimes I just can’t put it into
>> 100base crc just go nuts
>>
>> Lets here your battles with crc’s
>>
>>
>>
>
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

[Chuck McCown]

CRC errors are frequently a surge suppressor issue.  Sometimes they get wounded 
and cause errors.  

From: Ryan Mano 
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:24 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

​i am using chucks surges and no there is no FM radio on them





From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors 

do the towers have and FM radio stations on them? 

-sean


On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Ryan Mano <rm...@corp.mdswireless.com> wrote:

  most of my battles are at the tower...checking surges checking cables...all 
check out and I still end up replacing it


  also I notice an increase in Ethernet Link Detected and Ethernet Link Lost  
under stats in cambium radios either being APs ot BHs




--

  From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:51 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors 

  If this is customer end, we get surge suppressors partly blown by lightning 
causing CRC errors.  Next most common is critters partly chewing through cable.


  From: Justin Wilson 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:46 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

  A lot of what I have seen is probably just from personal experience, which 
makes it not too scientific.  For example, We typically hardest the UBNT radios 
and left the Mikrotiks to auto.  Things seemed happier this way. The Gigabit 
specification says it should be auto everything. Sometimes this can have issues 
between vendors. 



  Justin Wilson
  j...@mtin.net

  ---
  http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
  xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth


  http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
  Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric

On May 24, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Ryan Mano <rm...@corp.mdswireless.com> wrote:


Want to hear how you guys go about handling crc errors on your radios?

Like check duplex or check cables etc.

Noticing in the past month or so am seeing an increase in crc errors….when 
I do….I change the duplex from 100 to 10base and it runs with no errors but the 
customer are not happy…sometimes I just can’t put it into 100base crc just go 
nuts

Lets here your battles with crc’s

Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

[Ryan Mano]

?i am using chucks surges and no there is no FM radio on them


From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

do the towers have and FM radio stations on them?

-sean


On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Ryan Mano 
<rm...@corp.mdswireless.com<mailto:rm...@corp.mdswireless.com>> wrote:

most of my battles are at the tower...checking surges checking cables...all 
check out and I still end up replacing it

also I notice an increase in Ethernet Link Detected and Ethernet Link Lost  
under stats in cambium radios either being APs ot BHs



From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Ken 
Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

If this is customer end, we get surge suppressors partly blown by lightning 
causing CRC errors.  Next most common is critters partly chewing through cable.


From: Justin Wilson<mailto:li...@mtin.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:46 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

A lot of what I have seen is probably just from personal experience, which 
makes it not too scientific.  For example, We typically hardest the UBNT radios 
and left the Mikrotiks to auto.  Things seemed happier this way. The Gigabit 
specification says it should be auto everything. Sometimes this can have issues 
between vendors.



Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net<mailto:j...@mtin.net>

---
http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
xISP Solutions- Consulting - Data Centers - Bandwidth

http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric

On May 24, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Ryan Mano 
<rm...@corp.mdswireless.com<mailto:rm...@corp.mdswireless.com>> wrote:


Want to hear how you guys go about handling crc errors on your radios?

Like check duplex or check cables etc.

Noticing in the past month or so am seeing an increase in crc errorswhen I 
doI change the duplex from 100 to 10base and it runs with no errors but the 
customer are not happy...sometimes I just can't put it into 100base crc just go 
nuts

Lets here your battles with crc's

Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

[Sean Heskett]

do the towers have and FM radio stations on them?

-sean


On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Ryan Mano <rm...@corp.mdswireless.com>
wrote:

> most of my battles are at the tower...checking surges checking
> cables...all check out and I still end up replacing it
>
> also I notice an increase in Ethernet Link Detected and Ethernet Link
> Lost  under stats in cambium radios either being APs ot BHs
>
>
> --
> *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
> >
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:51 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] crc errors
>
> If this is customer end, we get surge suppressors partly blown by
> lightning causing CRC errors.  Next most common is critters partly chewing
> through cable.
>
>
> *From:* Justin Wilson <li...@mtin.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:46 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] crc errors
>
> A lot of what I have seen is probably just from personal experience, which
> makes it not too scientific.  For example, We typically hardest the UBNT
> radios and left the Mikrotiks to auto.  Things seemed happier this way. The
> Gigabit specification says it should be auto everything. Sometimes this can
> have issues between vendors.
>
>
>
> Justin Wilson
> j...@mtin.net
>
> ---
> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
>
> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>
>
> On May 24, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Ryan Mano <rm...@corp.mdswireless.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Want to hear how you guys go about handling crc errors on your radios?
>
> Like check duplex or check cables etc.
>
> Noticing in the past month or so am seeing an increase in crc errors….when
> I do….I change the duplex from 100 to 10base and it runs with no errors but
> the customer are not happy…sometimes I just can’t put it into 100base crc
> just go nuts
>
> Lets here your battles with crc’s
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

are you using chucks surge suppressors?

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 10:57 AM, Ryan Mano <rm...@corp.mdswireless.com>
wrote:

> most of my battles are at the tower...checking surges checking
> cables...all check out and I still end up replacing it
>
> also I notice an increase in Ethernet Link Detected and Ethernet Link
> Lost  under stats in cambium radios either being APs ot BHs
>
>
> --
> *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
> >
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:51 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] crc errors
>
> If this is customer end, we get surge suppressors partly blown by
> lightning causing CRC errors.  Next most common is critters partly chewing
> through cable.
>
>
> *From:* Justin Wilson <li...@mtin.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:46 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] crc errors
>
> A lot of what I have seen is probably just from personal experience, which
> makes it not too scientific.  For example, We typically hardest the UBNT
> radios and left the Mikrotiks to auto.  Things seemed happier this way. The
> Gigabit specification says it should be auto everything. Sometimes this can
> have issues between vendors.
>
>
>
> Justin Wilson
> j...@mtin.net
>
> ---
> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
>
> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>
>
> On May 24, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Ryan Mano <rm...@corp.mdswireless.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Want to hear how you guys go about handling crc errors on your radios?
>
> Like check duplex or check cables etc.
>
> Noticing in the past month or so am seeing an increase in crc errors….when
> I do….I change the duplex from 100 to 10base and it runs with no errors but
> the customer are not happy…sometimes I just can’t put it into 100base crc
> just go nuts
>
> Lets here your battles with crc’s
>
>
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

[Ryan Mano]

most of my battles are at the tower...checking surges checking cables...all 
check out and I still end up replacing it

also I notice an increase in Ethernet Link Detected and Ethernet Link Lost  
under stats in cambium radios either being APs ot BHs



From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

If this is customer end, we get surge suppressors partly blown by lightning 
causing CRC errors.  Next most common is critters partly chewing through cable.


From: Justin Wilson<mailto:li...@mtin.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:46 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

A lot of what I have seen is probably just from personal experience, which 
makes it not too scientific.  For example, We typically hardest the UBNT radios 
and left the Mikrotiks to auto.  Things seemed happier this way. The Gigabit 
specification says it should be auto everything. Sometimes this can have issues 
between vendors.



Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net<mailto:j...@mtin.net>

---
http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
xISP Solutions- Consulting - Data Centers - Bandwidth

http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric

On May 24, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Ryan Mano 
<rm...@corp.mdswireless.com<mailto:rm...@corp.mdswireless.com>> wrote:


Want to hear how you guys go about handling crc errors on your radios?

Like check duplex or check cables etc.

Noticing in the past month or so am seeing an increase in crc errorswhen I 
doI change the duplex from 100 to 10base and it runs with no errors but the 
customer are not happy...sometimes I just can't put it into 100base crc just go 
nuts

Lets here your battles with crc's

Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

[Ken Hohhof]

If this is customer end, we get surge suppressors partly blown by lightning 
causing CRC errors.  Next most common is critters partly chewing through cable.


From: Justin Wilson 
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:46 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

A lot of what I have seen is probably just from personal experience, which 
makes it not too scientific.  For example, We typically hardest the UBNT radios 
and left the Mikrotiks to auto.  Things seemed happier this way. The Gigabit 
specification says it should be auto everything. Sometimes this can have issues 
between vendors. 



Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net

---
http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth


http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric

  On May 24, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Ryan Mano <rm...@corp.mdswireless.com> wrote:

   
  Want to hear how you guys go about handling crc errors on your radios?
   
  Like check duplex or check cables etc.
   
  Noticing in the past month or so am seeing an increase in crc errors….when I 
do….I change the duplex from 100 to 10base and it runs with no errors but the 
customer are not happy…sometimes I just can’t put it into 100base crc just go 
nuts
   
  Lets here your battles with crc’s

Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

[Justin Wilson]

A lot of what I have seen is probably just from personal experience, which 
makes it not too scientific.  For example, We typically hardest the UBNT radios 
and left the Mikrotiks to auto.  Things seemed happier this way. The Gigabit 
specification says it should be auto everything. Sometimes this can have issues 
between vendors.



Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net

---
http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth

http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric

> On May 24, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Ryan Mano  wrote:
> 
>  
> Want to hear how you guys go about handling crc errors on your radios?
>  
> Like check duplex or check cables etc.
>  
> Noticing in the past month or so am seeing an increase in crc errors….when I 
> do….I change the duplex from 100 to 10base and it runs with no errors but the 
> customer are not happy…sometimes I just can’t put it into 100base crc just go 
> nuts
>  
> Lets here your battles with crc’s

Re: [AFMUG] crc errors

[Josh Luthman]

SFP SFP SFP SFP SFP SFP


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Ryan Mano 
wrote:

>
>
> Want to hear how you guys go about handling crc errors on your radios?
>
>
>
> Like check duplex or check cables etc.
>
>
>
> Noticing in the past month or so am seeing an increase in crc errors….when
> I do….I change the duplex from 100 to 10base and it runs with no errors but
> the customer are not happy…sometimes I just can’t put it into 100base crc
> just go nuts
>
>
>
> Lets here your battles with crc’s
>
>
>