BUS: Wielding -3 Sep 2023 [attn. Stonemason]

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I wield the Minty Stone, specifying myself.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Reaching - 3 Sep 2023 [attn. Stonemason]

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I reach for the Soul Stone.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Stone Actions - 17 Sep 2023 [attn. Stonemason, Assessor]

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I wield the Power Stone, specifying myself.

I reach for the Sabotage Stone.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: [proposal] Ordered cleanliness

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I submit the following proposal:

Title: Ordered cleanliness
Adoption index: 3.0
Author: Janet
Coauthors:

{

Amend Rule 2221 by replacing "the rule is amended by this rule as
specified by that person" with "when e does so, if any text changes were
specified, that rule is amended by this rule by applying the changes as
a single amendment (failing as a whole if any fail); then, if any title
changes were specified, that rule is retitled by this rule by applying
the changes as a single retitling (failing as a whole if any fail)."

}

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Reaching - 9 Sep 2023 [attn. Stonemason]

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I reach for the Minty Stone.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9009-9010

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I vote as follows:
> ID  Author(s)   AITitle
> ---
> 9009*   Janet   3.0   Ordered cleanliness

FOR


> 9010~   4st 2.0   Wizards Wage War

AGAINST

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: DIS: Re: (@Notary) Re: BUS: A promise for a promise, a stamp for a stamp

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 10/11/23 15:30, Kiako via agora-business wrote:
> On 10/11/2023 2:29 PM, Kiako via agora-discussion wrote:
>> I transfer one kiako stamp to ais523.
>>
>>> I grant kiako the following promise:
>>> {{{
>>> Cashing condition: kiako has transferred a kiako stamp to ais523 in 
>>> the message in which this promise is cashed.
>>> Expiry condition: It is 14 October 2023 or later.
>>>
>>> I transfer a Madrid stamp to kiako.
>>> }}}
>> I cash the above promise granted to me.
>>
>> -- 
>> kiako
> TTttPF
>
> --
> kiako


This fails. The cashing condition was not satisfied.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: General objection

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 10/16/23 12:38, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> Once again, I object to each intent do declare Apathy.
>

*sigh*

I object to each intent *to* declare Apathy.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: General objection

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

Once again, I object to each intent do declare Apathy.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: [proposal] Forum restoration

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 10/16/23 12:37, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> I submit the following proposal:
>
> Title: Forum restoration
>
> Author: Janet
>
> Coauthors: nix
>
> Adoption index:
>
> {
>
> The instance of the publicity switch possessed by the forum that can be
> sent to at "agoranomic at groups.io" is hereby flipped to Public.
>
> }
>

I withdraw the above proposal.

I submit the following proposal:

Title: Forum restoration

Author: Janet

Coauthors: nix, Kate

Adoption index: 3.0

{

The instance of the publicity switch possessed by the forum that can be
sent to at "agoranomic at groups.io" is hereby flipped to Public.

}

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: [proposal] Forum restoration

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I submit the following proposal:

Title: Forum restoration

Author: Janet

Coauthors: nix

Adoption index:

{

The instance of the publicity switch possessed by the forum that can be
sent to at "agoranomic at groups.io" is hereby flipped to Public.

}

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: Outsourcing

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 10/17/23 10:58, juan via agora-business wrote:
> I create, consent to, and become a party of the following contract called
> “Registrar Standard Contracting”.
>
> {
> Registars are a fixed asset ownable by parties other than juan,
> and tracked by juan.
> 
> When a party to this contract flips a player's activity switch to
> Inactive, e CAN, once, by annoucenment, grant emself one registar.
> 
> A party to this contract other than juan CAN perform any of the
> following actions by paying the fee specified:
>
> * (3 registars) Act on behalf of juan to create the following promise
>   in eir possession:
> 
>   {
> Cashing conditions: the bearer specified a stamp type which I
> own in the same message where e cashes this promise.
>
> I transfer one stamp of the specified type to the bearer.
>   }
> 
> juan CAN ammend this contract to add or remove items from the
> preceding list. juan CANNOT destroy registars. juan CAN grant
> registars to parties by announcement.
>
> Parties are ENCOURAGED to suggest ammendments to the action list.
> }
>

"the activity switch of a player other than emself"?

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: A far overdue reward

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I intend, with 2 Agoran consent, to award Aris the Patent Title of
Tapecutter, using the method set forth in Rule 2581.

I promised to award this years ago to the player who wrote the proposal
undoing Statutory Instrumentation (P8354). Aris completed that challenge
with P8539 ("The Great Rollback"), but I have only just realized I
failed to give em eir do award. This would rectify that error.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] Notes on Application of Proposals 9011-9019

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 10/31/23 15:09, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote:
> I hope I'm doing this right:
>
> I CFJ: When Proposal 9011 takes effect, it produces an amendment.
>
> Grat. Args:
> - I'm sure Janet means with "it has no effect", not to mean that it has no
> effect whatsoever because the Proposal indeed has *some* effect on the
> game, but that the effect that it has when the Proposal itself 'takes
> effect' is none.
> - The Proposal's language seems sufficiently clear to me to mean what it
> means.
> - If there is some precedent on needing to be this strict, I'm
> self-motivated to litigate through a CFJ to change that precedent.


The statement should be "When Proposal 9011 took effect, it applied an
amendment to a Rule."

Gratuitous:

The ellipses are unambiguously included with in the >-quotes. We would
reach this result with "quotation-mark quotes", so we should reach it
here as well. Alternatively, whether or not the ellipses are included in
the text is ambiguous, and "[a]ny ambiguity in the specification of a
rule change causes that change to be void and without effect".

And, as usual, I caution heavily against judicially weakening the
communication standard for rule changes. The standard is deliberately
very high and any changes should be carefully thought through and voted
on, rather than a judge saying e thinks the standard produces a bad
result in this one case.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: A new government [attn. ADoP]

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

As the office is interim, I intend, with 2 support, to initiate an
election for Prime Minister (also becoming a candidate at the time of
initiation).

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: [proposal] The power of radiation

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I submit the following proposal:

Title: It's a bit dark in here

Author: Janet

Coauthors: Kate

Adoption index: 1.5

{

Amend Rule 2656 by, as a single amendment:

* First, prepending the following paragraph: { The Illuminator is an
office, responsible for tracking radiance. }

* Then, replacing "tracked by the Herald" with "tracked by the Illuminator".

}

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: A far overdue reward [attn. Herald]

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 10/31/23 22:55, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> I intend, with 2 Agoran consent, to award Aris the Patent Title of
> Tapecutter, using the method set forth in Rule 2581.
>
> I promised to award this years ago to the player who wrote the proposal
> undoing Statutory Instrumentation (P8354). Aris completed that challenge
> with P8539 ("The Great Rollback"), but I have only just realized I
> failed to give em eir do award. This would rectify that error.
>

With 2 Agoran consent (ais523 supporting and no objections), I do so.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: [proposal] Investigation time limits

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I submit the following proposal

Title: Investigation time limits

Author: Janet

Coauthors:

Adoption index: 1.7

{

Amend Rule 2478 by, as a single amendment:

* Replacing "Within 14 days of an infraction being committed," with
"Within 14 days of an infraction being committed, or if the infraction
has been noted,".

* Replacing "any other player in the last 7 days" with "any other player
in the last 14 days".

[Harmonize the time limits to investigate and to note, and ensure a
noted infraction can always be investigated beyond the time limit to do
so (allowing deputization).]

}

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: Re: Names are Cool! [attn. officers]

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 10/21/23 13:20, Aris via agora-business wrote:
> On Sat, May 27, 2023 at 2:33 AM Aspen 
> wrote:
>
>> I change my nickname to Aris. Pronouns are still the same (e/em, as
>> per Agoran custom, or they/them).
>>
>> -Aris
>
> I don't believe that this change was ever fully implemented; could people
> do that please?
>
> -Aris


I have confirmed that this change was already reflected in the FLR.

I have confirmed that this change was mostly reflected on the Assessor's
website, but also updated a few more old vote comments.

Finally, I have updated the history section of the Stonemason's report.
I apologize for the omission.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Stonemason] Billboard Rock Chart - 15 Oct 2023 (revision 1)

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 10/20/23 08:29, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 6:38 PM Janet Cobb via agora-official <
> agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
>> In response to ais523's recent CoE:
>>> On Sun, 2023-10-15 at 19:20 -0400, Janet Cobb via agora-official wrote:
 StoneMossiness  OwnerLast Wielded  Immune?
 ---  -  ---    ---
 Recursion3  ais523   2023-10-09
 Anti-Equatorial  2  ais523   2023-10-08
>>> [snip]
 History:
 ===
 2023-10-09 00:05:26  Mossiness of Blank stone incremented due to
 Recursion Stone as Anti-Equatorial Stone.
 2023-10-08 23:59:35  Mossiness of Blank stone incremented due to
 Anti-Equatorial Stone.
>>> CoE: you increased the mossiness of the wrong stones here (the Anti-
>>> Equatorial stone effect increases the mossiness of the wielded stone,
>>> not the transferred stone).
>> I accept the above CoE and respond to it by publishing the following
>> revision:
>>
>> THE BILLBOARD ROCK CHART (STONEMASON'S WEEKLY REPORT)
>> REVISION 1
>>
>> StoneMossiness  OwnerLast Wielded  Immune?
>> ---  -  ---    ---
>> Power2  Janet2023-09-17
>> Soul 1  Janet2023-04-23
>> Sabotage 1  Janet2023-05-21
>> Minty1  ais523   2023-10-09
>> Protection   2  ais523   2023-10-01
>> Recursion3  ais523   2023-10-09
>> Hot Potato   1  ais523   2023-08-27
>> Blank0  ais523   2023-05-28
>> Anti-Equatorial  3  ais523   2023-10-08
>> Radiance 3  ais523   2023-10-09
>>
>> PlayerBase Rockiness
>>   --
>> Beokirby  19
>> juan  13
>> Janet  4
>> ais523 1
>>
> CoE: kiako and snail have a Base Rockiness of 1. They both had gardens
> dreams at the beginning of a week (the report i missed caused this sorry)
>
> (Also, does this count as proper reporting if it doesn't say what other
> players besides the ones listed have as their base rockiness? I was
> expecting to see "All other active players have a base rockiness of 0" in
> there.)
> --
> snail


The defaults are implied.

>   3. Optionally, exactly one office whose holder tracks instances of
>  that switch. That officer's (weekly, if not specified
>  otherwise) report includes the value of each instance of that
>  switch whose value is not its default value; a public document
>  purporting to be this portion of that officer's report is
>  self-ratifying, and implies that other instances are at their
>  default value.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Stone actions - 22 Oct 2023 [attn. Stonemason, Assessor]

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I wield the Power Stone, specifying myself.

I wield the Sabotage Stone, specifying the referendum on Proposal 9013.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Stone actions - 22 Oct 2023 [attn. Stonemason, Assessor]

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I wield the Power Stone, specifying myself.

I wield the Sabotage Stone, specifying the referendum on Proposal 9013.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9011-9019

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I vote sa follows:
> ID  Author(s)   AITitle
> ---
> 9011~   Zipzap  2.0   Sharing Dreams in the Modern Era

FOR


> 9012~   Janet   2.0   Official security

FOR


> 9013~   4st 1.0   Cool numbers

AGAINST


> 9014~   kiako, Janet1.0   Back from Extinction

AGAINST. I'm simply not interested in this mechanic and continue to be
weary of random subgames.


> 9015~   kiako   1.0   Beaming Towards Victory

AGAINST


> 9016~   kiako, Janet1.0   Alluring Gambits

AGAINST


> 9017~   kiako, Murphy   1.0   Over 9000 Lumens!

AGAINST


> 9018~   kiako   1.0   Rocky Refraction

AGAINST


> 9019*   Janet, nix, Kate3.0   Forum restoration

FOR

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Oh no I have to report now?

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I succumb.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: [proposal] Investigation time limits

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 10/22/23 17:56, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> I submit the following proposal
>
> Title: Investigation time limits
>
> Author: Janet
>
> Coauthors:
>
> Adoption index: 1.7
>
> {
>
> Amend Rule 2478 by, as a single amendment:
>
> * Replacing "Within 14 days of an infraction being committed," with
> "Within 14 days of an infraction being committed, or if the infraction
> has been noted,".
>
> * Replacing "any other player in the last 7 days" with "any other player
> in the last 14 days".
>
> [Harmonize the time limits to investigate and to note, and ensure a
> noted infraction can always be investigated beyond the time limit to do
> so (allowing deputization).]
>
> }
>

I withdraw the above proposal, if it exists and is in the Proposal Pool.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9011-9019

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 10/31/23 04:22, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote:
> I vote as follows:
>> ID  Author(s)   AITitle
>>
> ---
>> 9011~   Zipzap  2.0   Sharing Dreams in the Modern Era
> FOR
>
>
>> 9012~   Janet   2.0   Official security
> PRESENT, the reasoning for it isn't clear to me
>
>
>> 9013~   4st 1.0   Cool numbers
> AGAINST, although it's funny
>
>
>> 9014~   kiako, Janet1.0   Back from Extinction
> AGAINST. I generally like new games, but I'm not too enthusiastic about
> this one. Sorry.
>
>
>> 9015~   kiako   1.0   Beaming Towards Victory
> AGAINST.
>
>
>> 9016~   kiako, Janet1.0   Alluring Gambits
> AGAINST.
>
>
>> 9017~   kiako, Murphy   1.0   Over 9000 Lumens!
> AGAINST
>
>
>> 9018~   kiako   1.0   Rocky Refraction
> AGAINST


All of these fail except 9012 since the voting period has ended (9012's
was extended for being inquorate).

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: Proposal Submission - Stone Repeal

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 10/31/23 05:19, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote:
> I submit the following Proposal:
>
> Name: Stone Repeal
> AI: 2
> Author: Yachay
> Co-authors: None
>
> Repeal Rule 2640, 2641, 2642, 2643, 2644, 2645
>
> /* Comment: This November, this rule will have existed for three years.
> Tragically, I haven't seen or experienced any interesting gameplay from it.
> I believe it's time to move on.


It's the only gameplay we have right now.

Also, these proposals usually include "in order" or "in ascending
numerical order by ID" to avoid the rule changes accidentally being
simultaneous.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: Activation - Yachay

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 10/28/23 13:41, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote:
> I make myself active by announcement.


It's unclear whether this worked due to it being caught in the lists.

You may want to try this again.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Reaching - 5 Nov 2023 [attn. Stonemason]

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I reach for the Recursion Stone.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9020-9026

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I vote as follows:
> 9020~   4st, ...[1] 1.0   Free Black Ribbons

AGAINST


> 9021~   4st, ...[1] 1.0   Free Points

AGAINST


> 9022~   4st, ...[1] 1.0   Free Pebbles

AGAINST


> 9023~   4st, ...[1] 1.0   Free Stamps

AGAINST


> 9024~   Janet   1.7   Investigation time limits

I believe no such decision exists; however, if it does, I vote FOR


> 9025~   Yachay  2.0   Stone Repeal

AGAINST


> 9026~   Janet, Kate 1.5   It's a bit dark in here

FOR

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9020-9026

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 11/5/23 16:27, secretsnail9 via agora-official wrote:
> PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW
>
> If you vote on a proposal, please edit this spreadsheet with your votes:
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1F39OHtBlZlQ8XVccqKCFtP-DPuHz4wPnujxbxkCN3LI/edit?usp=sharing
>
> I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it,
> and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote
> collector
> is the Assessor, the quorum is 3, the voting method is AI-majority, and the
> valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are
> conditional votes).
>
>
> ID  Author(s)   AITitle
> ---
> 9020~   4st, ...[1] 1.0   Free Black Ribbons
> 9021~   4st, ...[1] 1.0   Free Points
> 9022~   4st, ...[1] 1.0   Free Pebbles
> 9023~   4st, ...[1] 1.0   Free Stamps
> 9024~   Janet   1.7   Investigation time limits
> 9025~   Yachay  2.0   Stone Repeal
> 9026~   Janet, Kate 1.5   It's a bit dark in here
>
>
> [1] 4st, snail, juan, kiako, zipzap, Murphy
>
>
> The proposal pool contains the following proposals:
>
> ID  Author(s)   AITitle
> ---
>
>
>
>
> Legend: * : Democratic proposal.
> ~ : Ordinary proposal.
>
> The full text of the aforementioned proposal(s) is included below. Where
> the information shown below differs from the information shown above,
> the information shown above shall control.
>
>
> //
> ID: 9020
> Title: Free Black Ribbons
> Adoption Index: 1.0
> Author: 4st
> Co-author(s): snail, juan, kiako, zipzap, Murphy
>
>
> Grant all players who voted FOR this proposal a black ribbon.
>
> //
> ID: 9021
> Title: Free Points
> Adoption Index: 1.0
> Author: 4st
> Co-author(s): snail, juan, kiako, zipzap, Murphy
>
>
> Grant all players who vote FOR this proposal 50 points.
> (You're welcome Murphy!)
>
> //
> ID: 9022
> Title: Free Pebbles
> Adoption Index: 1.0
> Author: 4st
> Co-author(s): snail, juan, kiako, zipzap, Murphy
>
>
> Enact a new rule entitled "Pebbles", power=1, and the following text:
> {
> A pebble is a stone with smoothness 0, a weekly frequency, and no effect,
> and is uniquely identified by "Pebble of " and a player's name.
> }
> For each player that voted FOR this proposal, create a pebble in their
> possession with their name.
>
> //
> ID: 9023
> Title: Free Stamps
> Adoption Index: 1.0
> Author: 4st
> Co-author(s): snail, juan, kiako, zipzap, Murphy
>
>
> Grant each player that voted FOR this proposal 1 stamp of eir own type.
>
> //
> ID: 9024
> Title: Investigation time limits
> Adoption Index: 1.7
> Author: Janet
> Co-author(s):
>
>
> Amend Rule 2478 by, as a single amendment:
>
> * Replacing "Within 14 days of an infraction being committed," with
> "Within 14 days of an infraction being committed, or if the infraction
> has been noted,".
>
> * Replacing "any other player in the last 7 days" with "any other player
> in the last 14 days".
>
> [Harmonize the time limits to investigate and to note, and ensure a
> noted infraction can always be investigated beyond the time limit to do
> so (allowing deputization).]
>
> //
> ID: 9025
> Title: Stone Repeal
> Adoption Index: 2.0
> Author: Yachay
> Co-author(s):
>
>
> Repeal Rules 2640, 2641, 2642, 2643, 2644, and 2645 in ascending numerical
> order by ID
>
> // Comment: This November, this rule will have existed for three years.
> Tragically, I haven't seen or experienced any interesting gameplay from it.
> I believe it's time to move on.
>
> //
> ID: 9026
> Title: It's a bit dark in here
> Adoption Index: 1.5
> Author: Janet
> Co-author(s): Kate
>
>
> Amend Rule 2656 by, as a single amendment:
>
> * First, prepending the following paragraph: { The Illuminator is an
> office, responsible for tracking radiance. }
>
> * Then, replacing "tracked by the Herald" with "tracked by the Illuminator".
>
> //
> --
> snail


CoE on the purported distribution of P9026: No such proposal was in the
proposal pool, it was withdrawn at [0] (after all list problems were
resolved).

CoE on the proposal pool: it is missing the proposal I submitted at [1]
entitled "Fairness in Crime Act".


[0]:
https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2023-October/052041.html

[1]:

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9020-9026

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 11/6/23 10:39, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> On 11/5/23 16:27, secretsnail9 via agora-official wrote:
>> PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW
>>
>> If you vote on a proposal, please edit this spreadsheet with your votes:
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1F39OHtBlZlQ8XVccqKCFtP-DPuHz4wPnujxbxkCN3LI/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it,
>> and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote
>> collector
>> is the Assessor, the quorum is 3, the voting method is AI-majority, and the
>> valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are
>> conditional votes).
>>
>>
>> ID  Author(s)   AITitle
>> ---
>> 9020~   4st, ...[1] 1.0   Free Black Ribbons
>> 9021~   4st, ...[1] 1.0   Free Points
>> 9022~   4st, ...[1] 1.0   Free Pebbles
>> 9023~   4st, ...[1] 1.0   Free Stamps
>> 9024~   Janet   1.7   Investigation time limits
>> 9025~   Yachay  2.0   Stone Repeal
>> 9026~   Janet, Kate 1.5   It's a bit dark in here
>>
>>
>> [1] 4st, snail, juan, kiako, zipzap, Murphy
>>
>>
>> The proposal pool contains the following proposals:
>>
>> ID  Author(s)   AITitle
>> ---
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Legend: * : Democratic proposal.
>> ~ : Ordinary proposal.
>>
>> The full text of the aforementioned proposal(s) is included below. Where
>> the information shown below differs from the information shown above,
>> the information shown above shall control.
>>
>>
>> //
>> ID: 9020
>> Title: Free Black Ribbons
>> Adoption Index: 1.0
>> Author: 4st
>> Co-author(s): snail, juan, kiako, zipzap, Murphy
>>
>>
>> Grant all players who voted FOR this proposal a black ribbon.
>>
>> //
>> ID: 9021
>> Title: Free Points
>> Adoption Index: 1.0
>> Author: 4st
>> Co-author(s): snail, juan, kiako, zipzap, Murphy
>>
>>
>> Grant all players who vote FOR this proposal 50 points.
>> (You're welcome Murphy!)
>>
>> //
>> ID: 9022
>> Title: Free Pebbles
>> Adoption Index: 1.0
>> Author: 4st
>> Co-author(s): snail, juan, kiako, zipzap, Murphy
>>
>>
>> Enact a new rule entitled "Pebbles", power=1, and the following text:
>> {
>> A pebble is a stone with smoothness 0, a weekly frequency, and no effect,
>> and is uniquely identified by "Pebble of " and a player's name.
>> }
>> For each player that voted FOR this proposal, create a pebble in their
>> possession with their name.
>>
>> //
>> ID: 9023
>> Title: Free Stamps
>> Adoption Index: 1.0
>> Author: 4st
>> Co-author(s): snail, juan, kiako, zipzap, Murphy
>>
>>
>> Grant each player that voted FOR this proposal 1 stamp of eir own type.
>>
>> //
>> ID: 9024
>> Title: Investigation time limits
>> Adoption Index: 1.7
>> Author: Janet
>> Co-author(s):
>>
>>
>> Amend Rule 2478 by, as a single amendment:
>>
>> * Replacing "Within 14 days of an infraction being committed," with
>> "Within 14 days of an infraction being committed, or if the infraction
>> has been noted,".
>>
>> * Replacing "any other player in the last 7 days" with "any other player
>> in the last 14 days".
>>
>> [Harmonize the time limits to investigate and to note, and ensure a
>> noted infraction can always be investigated beyond the time limit to do
>> so (allowing deputization).]
>>
>> //
>> ID: 9025
>> Title: Stone Repeal
>> Adoption Index: 2.0
>> Author: Yachay
>> Co-author(s):
>>
>>
>> Repeal Rules 2640, 2641, 2642, 2643, 2644, and 2645 in ascending numerical
>> order by ID
>>
>> // Comment: This November, this rule will have existed for three years.
>> 

BUS: General objection

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I object to each intent to declare Apathy.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: (@Herald, snail, Aspen, juan) Murder of a God - A Paradox Lost

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 10/3/23 19:07, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote:
> I resubmit the thesis "Agoran Source of Fun" with a new title "Murder
> of a God - A Paradox Lost", and it has the text of this message. As a
> reminder, the assigned reviewers of this thesis are juan, Aspen, and
> snail.[0] The Murder of a God - A Paradox Lost 


This is a blatant abuse of process and should not be countenanced.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: [proposal] Official security

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I submit the following proposal:

Title: Official security

Author: Janet

Coauthors:

Adoption index: 2.0

{

Amend Rule 1006 ("Offices") by replacing the sentence

{

Officeholder is an office switch tracked by the ADoP, with possible
values of any person or "vacant" (default).

}

with the following sentences:

{

Officeholder is an office switch tracked by the ADoP, with possible
values of any person or "vacant" (default). Each instance of the
Officeholder switch is secured at the power of the Rule defining the
associated office (or the power of this Rule, if the defining Rule's
power is higher).

}


Amend Rule 2632 ("Complexity") by replacing "Complexity is an office
switch" with "Complexity is a secured office switch".

}

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Re: OFF: [Stonemason] Billboard Rock Chart - 7 Oct 2023

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 10/7/23 16:00, Janet Cobb via agora-official wrote:
> THE BILLBOARD ROCK CHART (STONEMASON'S WEEKLY REPORT)
>
> StoneMossiness  OwnerLast Wielded  Immune?
> ---  -  ---    ---
> Power2  Janet2023-09-17
> Soul 1  Janet2023-04-23
> Sabotage 1  Janet2023-05-21
> Minty1  ais523   2023-10-02
> Protection   2  ais523   2023-10-01
> Recursion3  ais523   2023-09-27Protection
> Hot Potato   1  ais523   2023-08-27
> Blank5  snail2023-05-28
> Anti-Equatorial  2  ais523   2023-08-01Protection
> Radiance 3  juan 2023-09-04


Oops, the stones should not be immune based on Protection anymore.

This is not self-ratifying and will be reflected in the next report.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Reaching [attn. Stonemason]

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I reach for the Blank Stone.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: Proposal: Amending the Sharing Dream

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 10/6/23 22:27, Zip via agora-business wrote:
> I withdraw proposal 9011.
>
> I propose the following:
>
> //
>
> Title: Sharing Dreams in the Modern Era
> Adoption Index: 2.0
> Author: Zipzap
>
>
> Rule 2675's current text concerning the Sharing Dream
>
>   > Sharing: Immediately after a wandering, each Sharing Dreamer has eir
> points increased by X / Y...
>
> is amended to
>
>   > Sharing: Immediately after a wandering, each Sharing Dreamer has eir
> radiance increased by X / Y...
>
> //
>
> -Zipzap


This wouldn't work because the ellipses are included within the quotation.

I don't think this breaks it, but the more common phrasing is "Amend
Rule 2675 by replacing [] with []". Also, quotation marks or braces are
preferred to >-quoting because it allows the Promotor to reflow proposals.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: Reaching [attn. Stonemason]

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 10/9/23 13:56, ais523 via agora-business wrote:
> On Sun, 2023-10-08 at 23:57 -0400, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote:
>> I reach for the Blank Stone.
> This fails. The stone in question is not owned by Agora.
>

Oops, indeed.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Gifts for all! Maybe a lime also!

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 10/9/23 14:56, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote:
> I intend to, with Agoran Consent, grant the badge "2023 Slumpoween" to
> all active players. 


I object.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: General objections

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I object to each intent to declare Apathy.

I object to each intent to award any patent title via any mechanism.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4052 Assigned to Murphy

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 10/9/23 15:09, 4st nomic via agora-official wrote:
> I temporarily deputise as Arbitor to assign the following CFJ.
>
> The below is CFJ 4052. I assign it to Murphy.
>
> ===  CFJ 4052  ===
>
>   ais523 has 33 ais523 stamps.
>
> ==
>
> Caller:4ˢᵗ
>
> Judge: Murphy
>
> ==
>
> History:
>
> Called by 4ˢᵗ: 09 Oct 2023 12:04:27 -0700
> Assigned to Murphy:[now]
>
> ==
>
> Caller's Evidence:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/msg45421.html
>
> Arguments FOR: That's what the Minty Stone's description says.
>
> Arguments AGAINST: The description of a stone does not necessarily define
> the effects of a stone when it is thereby wielded. See the mismatch between
> the wording of rule 2640 and 2641, whereby "description" does not
> necessarily align with "any effects that it defines as occurring when the
> stone is wielded." Is it necessarily true that description of a stone is to
> be interpreted when determining that it has any effects?
>
> Rule 2640/4 (Power=2)
> Stones
>
>   A stone is a unique indestructible liquid asset defined by the
>   rules. To define a stone, the definition must include:
> (i) A name unique among stones;
>(ii) The smoothness of the stone, which is a non-negative integer;
>   (iii) A description of the stone's properties
>(iv) Optionally, a frequency, which must be one of daily, weekly,
> monthly, or quarterly.
>
>   Ownership of stones is entirely restricted to Agora and active
>   players.  If a stone is owned by the Lost and Found Department or
>   in abeyance, it is immediately transferred to Agora.
>
>   The Stonemason is an office, and the recordkeepor of stones.
>
>   Mossiness is a Stone switch with values of non-negative integers
>   and a default of 0 tracked by the Stonemason. When a stone is
>   transferred from Agora to a player or from a player to Agora, its
>   Mossiness is set to 0. The mossiest stone(s) in a set of stone is
>   (are) the stone(s) with the highest Mossiness value.
>
>   The Slipperiness of a stone is that stone's smoothness plus its
>   mossiness.
>
> Rule 2641/2 (Power=2)
> Wielding Stones
>
>   Except as otherwise specified by the rules, the owner of a stone
>   CAN wield it by announcement specifying any values needed to
>   interpret the stone's effects.
>
>   A stone with a frequency that has been wielded in the corresponding
>   Agoran time interval is Hot for the remainder of the time period
>   (e.g. if the frequency is daily, it is hot for the remainder of the
>   Agoran day it was wielded during).
>
>   While a stone is hot, it is IMPOSSIBLE to wield it or to transfer
>   it by announcement
>
>   When a stone is wielded, the Rule defining that stone applies any
>   effects that it defines as occurring when the stone is wielded.
>
>   The wielding of stones is secured.
>

Gratuitous:

The description describes the stone's "properties", one of which is any
effects of wielding. R2645 defines the stones and states any effects of
them being wielded, so those effects are applied when the stone is
wielded per R2641.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Thaumaturgy

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 9/7/23 17:10, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote:
> I submit the following proposal:
> {
> Title: Wizards Wage War
> Adoption Index: 2.0
> Author: 4st
> Co-author:
>
> (Instead of defining something by what it IS, lets define something by what
> it ISN'T! Looking forward to more comments on how to proof this a bit more,
> but most of the proofing should be by the weaving itself.)
> Enact the following rule entitled "Thaumaturgy" with power=2:
> {
> Each player, once per month, CAN, by commitment with 1 support, spellweave,
> thereby becoming the mage of that spellweave. Supporters of a spellweave
> are its apprentices.
> The Plaintext thereof MUST clearly, unambiguously, and trivially state that
> it shall exist within a single category of magic, otherwise it is a miscast.
>
> The Archmage is an office whose weekly report tracks commitments made by
> this rule and any magical instruments created or will be created thereof.
>
> At the beginning of the month, for each spellweave, the mage or apprentices
> CAN, by announcement, reveal the corresponding plaintext in a timely manner
> (this is called casting). Not revealing the plaintext in a timely manner is
> a miscast.
> The Archmage CAN and SHALL, by announcement in a timely manner, grant all
> mages who miscast or have miscast spells 3 blots for miscasting.
>
> After the time limit expires for casting, all related Plaintext
> simultaneously becomes a magical instrument (called a spell) with 0.01
> power, and has the category specified in its Plaintext. The mages and
> apprentices of a spellweave are also the mages and apprentices of its
> respective spell. The Fingerprint of a spellweave is sufficient to specify
> the spell its Plaintext becomes.
>
> Spells CANNOT:
> - amend, modify, extend, reduce the ruleset or the rules, rules to the
> contrary notwithstanding.
> - create any instruments, rules to the contrary notwithstanding
> - make anything IMPOSSIBLE
> - specify conditions for winning
> - specify wins
> - cause a paradox
>
> Spells CAN, but are not limited to:
> - make a mess
> - wreak havoc
> - exist
>
> Spells cease to exist (are cancelled) at the beginning of the month after
> they are created, unless otherwise specified by rules of power 1 or
> greater. A spell that is cancelled based on time "expires".
>
> In a conflict between spells, if there is otherwise no precedence, the
> spell that was woven first takes precedence, simultaneity to the contrary
> notwithstanding.
>
> In a conflict between spells, if one takes precedence over another due to
> this rule, it happens before the other's effect, rules and simultaneity to
> the contrary notwithstanding.
>
> If a spell would be part of a judgement that is PARADOXICAL, all spells
> involved in the judgement are miscast, and instead cancelled before taking
> further effect.
>
> CFJs CAN, optionally by announcenemt, be submitted to the Archmage, but
> SHALL NOT unless the CFJ relates to spells. CFJs submitted to the Archmage
> CAN and are ENCOURAGED to be judged by any player who is not the submitter
> and is not barred from the CFJ, in order to expedite the ensuing
> thaumaturgic machinations.
>
> When the office of Archmage becomes vacant, all spells are cancelled and
> all spellweaving is cancelled, rules to the contrary notwithstanding. The
> Archmage SHALL NOT cause eir office to become vacant, this is a Class 40
> violation.
> }
>
> Enact the following rule entitled "Lower Realms" with power=0.5:
> {
> The following are additional categories of magic, and their effect.
> Categories higher on this list takes precedence over categories lower on
> the list, unless otherwise specified by this rule.
> - Seraphic: The only effect a seraphic spell CAN have is to cancel exactly
> one specified, non-seraphic spell. When a seraphic spell cancels a spell,
> it also becomes cancelled.
> - Transmogrification: A transmogrification spell CAN ONLY alter definitions
> in every spell that happens after it. Transmogrification spells do not
> expire.
> - Alacritous: Alacritous spells are cancelled after they take effect.
> - Eldritch: An eldritch spell CANNOT be violated. If an eldritch spell were
> to otherwise be violated, all spells involved in the violation are instead
> miscast and cancelled before taking effect, thus preventing the IMPOSSIBLE
> violation. Eldritch spells do not expire.
> - Quantum: A quantum spell has no effect when it begins existing the first
> time. After a quantum spell is cancelled the first time, it is recreated
> and begins taking effect. Quantum spells do not expire.
> - Feral: Feral spells have no effect except in the context of a Zymotic
> spell.
> - Zymotic: The text describing zymotic spells is to be considered as the
> combination of all extant feral spells in order of spellweaving, with this
> text being the default text if no other text exists.
> - Lapidarian: Lapidarian spells take precedence over alacritous spells.
> - Psionic: A psionic spell CAN ONLY combine exactly 

Re: BUS: Obligatory playerhood CFJ

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 10/13/23 11:41, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-business wrote:
> CFJ, barring nix: nix is a player.
>
> I received two messages from nix via the public forum yesterday:
>
> On 12/10/2023 23:17, nix via agora-business wrote:
>> file:///tmp/Screenshot_2023-10-12_17-16-26.png
> On 12/10/2023 23:20, nix via agora-business wrote:
>> An image of me registering for Agora that is also my registration for
> Agora.
>
> Despite the apparent reference to an image, neither message actually
> contained an image, at least that my mail client could understand.
>
> I'm led to believe from conversations in Discord that this was not the
> intended content of either message, although nevertheless nix caused the
> messages to be sent. Specifically, nix reportedly intended to send a
> screenshot of a message e sent to the public forum on a previous
> occasion, with which e registered as a player at that time.
>
> For once I won't venture a guess on the correct judgement and leave it
> to the H. Judge.
>
> -Kate


I disfavour this one.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4050 Assigned to Janet

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 10/6/23 17:36, 4st nomic via agora-official wrote:
> I temporarily deputize as arbiter to assign the following CFJ.
>
> The below is CFJ 4050. I assign it to Janet.
>
> ===  CFJ 4050  ===
>
>   ais523 has 2 4st stamps.
>
> ==
>
> Caller:4ˢᵗ
>
> Judge: Janet
>
> ==
>
> History:
>
> Called by 4ˢᵗ: 04 Oct 2023 13:18:21 -0700
> 
> Assigned to Janet:[now]
>
> ==
>
> Caller's Evidence:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/msg45400.html
> and
> https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/msg45405.html
> (Also copied below for reference)
>
> On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 1:17 PM 4st nomic <4st.no...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 1:22 PM juan via agora-business <
>> agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I push the boulder.
>>>
>>> --
>>> juan
>>>
>> CFJ: ais523 now owns 2 4st stamps.
>>
>> Arguments PARADOX:
>> Per the temperature paradox:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature_paradox
>>
>> A. The boulder's height was 1.
>> B. The boulders height was increased by 1.
>> C. 1 was increased by 1.
>>
>> ais523 had 1 4st stamp, and 1 was increased to 2. QED.
>>
> And also provided gratuitous arguments on Oct 4th, 7:46PM:
>> Gratuitous arguments PARADOX:
>> Numbers are rule defined in R2509 "Agoran Numbers".
>> R1586 "Definition and Continuity of Entities" also seems to imply that
> things defined by the rules are entities, which would therefore include
> numbers.
>

Arguments in CFJ 4050:

{

The caller's arguments for PARADOXICAL conflate the definition of
PARADOXICAL under Rule 991 ("appropriate if the statement is logically
undecidable as a result of a paradox or or [sic] other irresolvable
logical situation") with the broader natural language usage of the word
"paradox" (which does not require any "logical undecidab[ility]").]

The "temperature paradox" is, per the Wikipedia page the caller sites,
"a classic puzzle in formal semantics and philosophical logic". Agora is
a game played in natural language, not formal logic. Words have
meanings, and the name of a value cannot simply be replaced with the
denoted value in all contexts.

In this specific instance, there is a Rule that governs the language
being used (Rule 2509). However, even in the absence of this Rule, the
caller's suggested result would not be reached. Under Rule 217, "the
text of the rules takes precedence". This does not require or even
suggest a mechanistic reading or a reading attempting to apply rules of
formal logic. It simply requires a faithful reading.

The facts regarding ais523's stamp holdings are not otherwise in dispute.

Judged FALSE.

}

Evidence:

{


Rule 2509/2 (Power=2)
Agoran Numbers

  A "number" is considered to refer to a real number, unless
  otherwise explicitly specified.  A "number of (items)", where
  (items) is a set of discrete entities, is considered to refer to a
  non-negative integer, unless otherwise explicitly specified.
  
  If a switch is defined as being associated with a specified set of
  numbers (a numerical switch), then the possible values for that
  switch are the numbers in that set. In particular, a natural or
  integer switch is a switch with possible values the non-negative
  integers or all integers, respectively. If a limit is further
  defined, the possible values are the numbers of the set within the
  specified limits.
  
  If 0 is in the specified values for a numerical switch and no
  default value is otherwise specified, 0 is the default value for
  that switch.
  
  If the rules describe mathematical operations to be used in
  flipping an instance of a numerical switch, the operations are
  interpreted as having common-sense mathematical application to
  determine that instance's resulting value. For example,
  "increasing a switch instance by M" is equivalent to "flipping a
  switch instance from its current value N to the value N+M". If the
  specified mathematical operation would result in a value outside
  that switch's defined set, the flipping CANNOT be performed, rules
  to the contrary notwithstanding.


Rule 217/12 (Power=3)
Interpreting the Rules

  When interpreting and applying the rules, the text of the rules
  takes precedence. Where the text is silent, inconsistent, or
  unclear, it is to be 

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Birthday Tournament (try #2)

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 8/17/23 19:46, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote:
> I become a participant of The Birthday Tournament. Also, there's still
> time to become a volunteer.


I become a participant in the ongoing Birthday Tournament.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9005-9008

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 8/14/23 17:33, secretsnail9 via agora-official wrote:
> ID  Author(s)   AITitle
> ---
> 9005~  Janet2.0   Unreality stone

FOR


> 9006~  Janet1.0   Freeing Sisyphus

FOR


> 9007~  Janet1.0   Shining a flashlight

FOR


> 9008~  snail1.0   Always at risk

AGAINST

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Stone Actions - 20 Aug 2023 [attn. Stonemason, Collector]

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I wield the Minty Stone, specifying myself.

I reach for the Hot Potato Stone.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: Stone Actions - 27 Aug 2023 [attn. Stonemason, Collector]

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 8/27/23 14:59, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-business wrote:
> On 27/08/2023 19:57, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote:
>> Oops. This reach fails, I already got the Hot Potato Stone last week.
>>
>> I wield the Hot Potato Stone, specifying Kate.
>>
>> I reach for the Anti-Equatorial Stone.
> Aww. Thank you!
>
> In that case, I reach for the Hot Potato stone myself.
>
> -Kate


You cannot reach for it, since it is not owned by Agora (it is now owned
by you).

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: Stone Actions - 27 Aug 2023 [attn. Stonemason, Collector]

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 8/27/23 14:51, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> I wield the Minty Stone, specifying myself.
>
> I reach for the Hot Potato Stone.
>

Oops. This reach fails, I already got the Hot Potato Stone last week.

I wield the Hot Potato Stone, specifying Kate.

I reach for the Anti-Equatorial Stone.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Stone Actions - 27 Aug 2023 [attn. Stonemason, Collector]

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I wield the Minty Stone, specifying myself.

I reach for the Hot Potato Stone.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: Stone Actions - 27 Aug 2023 [attn. Herald]

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 8/27/23 14:57, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> On 8/27/23 14:51, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote:
>> I wield the Minty Stone, specifying myself.
>>
>> I reach for the Hot Potato Stone.
>>
> Oops. This reach fails, I already got the Hot Potato Stone last week.
>
> I wield the Hot Potato Stone, specifying Kate.
>
> I reach for the Anti-Equatorial Stone.
>

Oh and flagging for Herald: this caused me to gain 8 radiance.

This message contains no game actions.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: not had the janitors in for a while, huh?

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 8/25/23 13:53, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-business wrote:
> I intend, without objection, to clean Rule 2603, "Switch Responsiblity",
> by changing its title to "Switch Responsibility".


I object. This must be done by refiling, not cleaning.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: not had the janitors in for a while, huh?

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 8/25/23 14:00, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-business wrote:
> On 25/08/2023 18:55, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote:
>> On 8/25/23 13:53, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-business wrote:
>>> I intend, without objection, to clean Rule 2603, "Switch Responsiblity",
>>> by changing its title to "Switch Responsibility".
>>
>> I object. This must be done by refiling, not cleaning.
>>
> R2221 allows cleaning to change the title as well. But sure, if you
> like. I intend, without objection, to refile Rule 2603, "Switch
> Responsiblity", to "Switch Responsibility".
>
> -Kate


Oops, sorry. We must have changed that at some point.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: A new government [attn. ADoP]

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 11/4/23 20:52, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> As the office is interim, I intend, with 2 support, to initiate an
> election for Prime Minister (also becoming a candidate at the time of
> initiation).
>

With 2 support (from snail and 4st), I do so (initiating the election).

I become a candidate in the ongoing Prime Minister election.

Campaign speech: I will be a calm and levelheaded Prime Minister. Also,
I'm not the other guy (nor any guy at all).

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Mad Hatter] Quasi-yearly report [attn. Referee]

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 11/8/23 16:03, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote:
> Referee:
> I encourage (not petition) you to look at CFJ 4022 for judgement of the
> violation of no faking of these statements.
> I am personally of the opinion that this was unnecessary and an abuse of
> your office, as trivially, none of these statements are falsy as per that
> CFJ.


Abuse of what office?

And, that case held two primary things: (1) that "As Referee" merely
constituted a factual statement that you were Referee (for the purposes
of No Faking), and (2) there was not a preponderance of the evidence
that you knew or should have known that "collecting taxes" was not
EFFECTIVE.

Neither of those holdings is relevant here. You made a series of false
statements which are falsy (many of them are nonsense and thus obviously
false, so you knew or should have known they were false; the others you
likely at least believed to be false), and you made them explicitly
under penalty of No Faking. That is sufficient to violate the Rule.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Re: OFF: [Mad Hatter] Quasi-yearly report [attn. Referee]

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 11/8/23 15:40, 4st nomic via agora-official wrote:
> This is a self-ratifying document. (Please do not object to this report
> outright, instead, submit a CoE so I may make the appropriate correction
> upon the next report).
> I swear, to the best of my ability, that the following is true and correct,
> under penalty of no faking:
>
> The following are players and the hats they are wearing:
> PlayerHat
> --- --
> Gaelan is wearing a giant question mark as a hat.
> Murphy is wearing history itself as a hat.
> Janet is wearing a pointy purple witch hat.
> cuddlybanana is wearing a banana hat.
> ais523 is wearing THE SUPER ULTIMATE WINNER'S HAT.
> snail is wearing the helix fossil as a hat.
> juan is wearing the entrance gates of Agora as a hat.
> Aris is wearing a hat.
> 4st is wearing the number 4 as a hat.
> Yachay Wayllukuq is wearing a regular old ghost as a hat.
> blob is wearing emself as a hat.
> Anneke-Constantine is wearing the movie Constantine as a hat.
> kiako is wearing a different hat.
> Kate is wearing Beatrice (bird form) as a hat.
> Zipzap is wearing a zipper as a hat.
> nix is wearing anarchy as a hat.
> omd is wearing this report as a hat.
> innalienableWright is wearing as a hat.
> beokirby is wearing the same hat.


I affirm, under penalty of no faking, that I am not wearing a hat, nor
was I at the time of the above-quoted message.

I note each of the following infractions, in order:

* 4st publishing a falsy statement that Gaelan is wearing a giant
question mark as a hat explicitly under penalty of No Faking, in
volation of Rule 2471 (No Faking).

* 4st publishing a falsy statement that Murphy is wearing history itself
as a hat explicitly under penalty of No Faking, in volation of Rule 2471
(No Faking).

* 4st publishing a falsy statement that Janet is wearing a pointy purple
witch hat explicitly under penalty of No Faking, in volation of Rule
2471 (No Faking).

* 4st publishing a falsy statement that cuddlybanana is wearing a banana
hat explicitly under penalty of No Faking, in volation of Rule 2471 (No
Faking).

* 4st publishing a falsy statement that ais523 is wearing "THE SUPER
ULTIMATE WINNER'S HAT" as a hat explicitly under penalty of No Faking,
in volation of Rule 2471 (No Faking).

* 4st publishing a falsy statement that snail is wearing "the helix
fossil" as a hat explicitly under penalty of No Faking, in volation of
Rule 2471 (No Faking).

* 4st publishing a falsy statement that juan is wearing "the entrance
gates of Agora" as a hat explicitly under penalty of No Faking, in
volation of Rule 2471 (No Faking).

* 4st publishing a falsy statement that Aris is wearing a hat explicitly
under penalty of No Faking, in volation of Rule 2471 (No Faking).

* 4st publishing a falsy statement that Murphy is wearing history itself
as a hat explicitly under penalty of No Faking, in volation of Rule 2471
(No Faking).

* 4st publishing a falsy statement that Yachay Wayllukuq is wearing "a
regular old ghost" as a hat explicitly under penalty of No Faking, in
volation of Rule 2471 (No Faking).

* 4st publishing a falsy statement that blob is wearing emself as a hat
explicitly under penalty of No Faking, in volation of Rule 2471 (No Faking).

* 4st publishing a falsy statement that Anneke-Constantine is wearing
"the move Constantine" as a hat explicitly under penalty of No Faking,
in volation of Rule 2471 (No Faking).

* 4st publishing a falsy statement that kiako is wearing a hat
explicitly under penalty of No Faking, in volation of Rule 2471 (No Faking).

* 4st publishing a falsy statement that Kate is wearing "Beatrice (bird
form)" as a hat explicitly under penalty of No Faking, in volation of
Rule 2471 (No Faking).

* 4st publishing a falsy statement that Zipzap is wearing a zipper as a
hat explicitly under penalty of No Faking, in volation of Rule 2471 (No
Faking).

* 4st publishing a falsy statement that nix is wearing "anarchy" as a
hat explicitly under penalty of No Faking, in volation of Rule 2471 (No
Faking).

* 4st publishing a falsy statement that omd is wearing the above-quoted
"report" as a hat explicitly under penalty of No Faking, in volation of
Rule 2471 (No Faking).

* 4st publishing a falsy statement that innalienableWright is wearing a
hat explicitly under penalty of No Faking, in volation of Rule 2471 (No
Faking).

* 4st publishing a falsy statement that beokirby is wearing a hat
explicitly under penalty of No Faking, in volation of Rule 2471 (No Faking).

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Monthly report: Arrivals and Departures

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 11/8/23 23:26, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> On 11/8/23 23:22, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 7:09 AM juan via agora-official <
>> agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>>
>>> ===
>>> Registrar: juan  Arrivals and Departures
>>>  2023-11-01
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>> if it helps, I think the following groups constitute the same person (not
>> player):
>> ((
>> "Warrigal"
>> "Warrigal, the"
>> "the Warrigal"
>> "Ivan Hope CXXVII"
>> "Zachary Watterson"
>> "Machiavelli"
>> "Arufonsu"
>> "Bank of Agora"
>> "SCHWA"
>> )(
>> "BobTHJ"
>> "Primo Corporation"
>> "Protection Racket"
>> "Reformed Bank of Agora"
>> )(
>> "Charles"
>> "Walker"
>> "Caste8a"
>> "Caste8b"
>> "Caste8c"
>> "Caste8d"
>> "Caste8e"
>> "Caste8f"
>> "Sam (disputed)"
>> )(
>> "Tristan Bredeweg"
>> "tmanthe2nd"
>> "tris"
>> )(
>> "Murphy"
>> "Number Two"
>> "Human Point Three"
>> "Human Point Four"
>> "Human Point Five"
>> "Human Point Six"
>> "Human Point Seven"
>> "Human Point Eight"
>> "Human Point Nine"
>> "Human Point Ten"
>> "Human Point Eleven"
>> "Human Point Twelve"
>> "Human Point Thirteen"
>> "Human Point Fourteen"
>> "Left Hand"
>> "Second System Effect"
>> "AFO"
>> )(
>> "comex"
>> "IBA"
>> "P1"
>> "P2"
>> "P3-P100"
>> "P1 - P100"
>> "Big Brother"
>> "omd"
>> "\"I create a Slave Golem whose name is the full body of this
>> message.\n(Preemptive arguments: It's not confusing, merely long.)\nOn Fri,
>> Jun 8, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Pavitra  wrote:\n> On
>> 06/08/2012 07:03 PM, John Smith wrote:\n>> For good measure, I transfer
>> Scapegoat to Pavitra.\n>\n> I transfer Scapegoat to the number four hundred
>> forty-one thousand three\n> hundred forty-four.\""
>> "Mr. Incredible"
>> )(
>> "ehird"
>> "ehrid"
>> "Sheeple"
>> "Teh Cltohed Mna Ni Teh Drak Woh Wtaches Adn Nevre Sasy A Wrod Execpt Wehn
>> Psoessed Yb Dmeons Mcuhly Precocupied"
>> )(
>> "teucer"
>> "Craig"
>> )(
>> "scat"
>> "Schrodinger's Cat"
>> )(
>> "redtara"
>> "Ienpw III"
>> )(
>> "Madrid"
>> "cuddlebeam"
>> )(
>> "Chester Mealer"
>> "cmealerjr"
>> "cdm014"
>> )(
>> "Taral"
>> "Goddess Eris"
>> )(
>> "G."
>> "Tweedledee"
>> "Tweedledum"
>> "a person announcing support or intent to do so"
>> "the Cayman Islands"
>> )(
>> "Yin Corp"
>> "Yang Corp"
>> )(
>> "Flameshadowxeroshin"
>> "FSX"
>> )(
>> "Kolja"
>> "Kolja A."
>> )(
>> "Joe [57]"
>> "BigBobBingo !"
>> )(
>> "ais523"
>> "ais523's imaginary friend"
>> )(
>> "Pavitra"
>> "Eileen"
>> "Solider-*-*"
>> )(
>> "P2P Partnership"
>> "root"
>> )(
>> "gwen"
>> "Quazie"
>> )(
>> "WALRUS"
>> "pikhq"
>> )(
>> "Tiger"
>> "Tiger Jr."
>> )(
>> "FKA441344"
>> "Scapegoat"
>> "Golem-1-50"
>> )(
>> "PNP"
>> "People's Bank of Agora"
>> )(
>> "BuckyBot"
>> "Ghost"
>> ))
>
> I would be *very* cautious of trying to "fix" historical records without
> specific evidence or explicit confirmation from someone then a player.
>
> In particular I believe the Human Point Ns were recursive and legally
> distinct? And that makes me doubt the veracity of the remainder of these
> "corrections".
>

And, indeed, cursory searching confirms that "WALRUS" was a partnership
while pikhq is a natural person.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Monthly report: Arrivals and Departures

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 11/8/23 23:22, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 7:09 AM juan via agora-official <
> agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
>> ===
>> Registrar: juan  Arrivals and Departures
>>  2023-11-01
>>
>> ===
>>
>
> if it helps, I think the following groups constitute the same person (not
> player):
> ((
> "Warrigal"
> "Warrigal, the"
> "the Warrigal"
> "Ivan Hope CXXVII"
> "Zachary Watterson"
> "Machiavelli"
> "Arufonsu"
> "Bank of Agora"
> "SCHWA"
> )(
> "BobTHJ"
> "Primo Corporation"
> "Protection Racket"
> "Reformed Bank of Agora"
> )(
> "Charles"
> "Walker"
> "Caste8a"
> "Caste8b"
> "Caste8c"
> "Caste8d"
> "Caste8e"
> "Caste8f"
> "Sam (disputed)"
> )(
> "Tristan Bredeweg"
> "tmanthe2nd"
> "tris"
> )(
> "Murphy"
> "Number Two"
> "Human Point Three"
> "Human Point Four"
> "Human Point Five"
> "Human Point Six"
> "Human Point Seven"
> "Human Point Eight"
> "Human Point Nine"
> "Human Point Ten"
> "Human Point Eleven"
> "Human Point Twelve"
> "Human Point Thirteen"
> "Human Point Fourteen"
> "Left Hand"
> "Second System Effect"
> "AFO"
> )(
> "comex"
> "IBA"
> "P1"
> "P2"
> "P3-P100"
> "P1 - P100"
> "Big Brother"
> "omd"
> "\"I create a Slave Golem whose name is the full body of this
> message.\n(Preemptive arguments: It's not confusing, merely long.)\nOn Fri,
> Jun 8, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Pavitra  wrote:\n> On
> 06/08/2012 07:03 PM, John Smith wrote:\n>> For good measure, I transfer
> Scapegoat to Pavitra.\n>\n> I transfer Scapegoat to the number four hundred
> forty-one thousand three\n> hundred forty-four.\""
> "Mr. Incredible"
> )(
> "ehird"
> "ehrid"
> "Sheeple"
> "Teh Cltohed Mna Ni Teh Drak Woh Wtaches Adn Nevre Sasy A Wrod Execpt Wehn
> Psoessed Yb Dmeons Mcuhly Precocupied"
> )(
> "teucer"
> "Craig"
> )(
> "scat"
> "Schrodinger's Cat"
> )(
> "redtara"
> "Ienpw III"
> )(
> "Madrid"
> "cuddlebeam"
> )(
> "Chester Mealer"
> "cmealerjr"
> "cdm014"
> )(
> "Taral"
> "Goddess Eris"
> )(
> "G."
> "Tweedledee"
> "Tweedledum"
> "a person announcing support or intent to do so"
> "the Cayman Islands"
> )(
> "Yin Corp"
> "Yang Corp"
> )(
> "Flameshadowxeroshin"
> "FSX"
> )(
> "Kolja"
> "Kolja A."
> )(
> "Joe [57]"
> "BigBobBingo !"
> )(
> "ais523"
> "ais523's imaginary friend"
> )(
> "Pavitra"
> "Eileen"
> "Solider-*-*"
> )(
> "P2P Partnership"
> "root"
> )(
> "gwen"
> "Quazie"
> )(
> "WALRUS"
> "pikhq"
> )(
> "Tiger"
> "Tiger Jr."
> )(
> "FKA441344"
> "Scapegoat"
> "Golem-1-50"
> )(
> "PNP"
> "People's Bank of Agora"
> )(
> "BuckyBot"
> "Ghost"
> ))


I would be *very* cautious of trying to "fix" historical records without
specific evidence or explicit confirmation from someone then a player.

In particular I believe the Human Point Ns were recursive and legally
distinct? And that makes me doubt the veracity of the remainder of these
"corrections".

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: (@Arbitor) [CFJ] On Agorant's Ossification

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 11/9/23 08:58, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-business wrote:
> On 09/11/2023 13:51, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote:
>> CFJ: Agoran't is ossified.
>>
>> Arguments for TRUE: Assuming the Agoran't Rule "Public Speaking" has the
>> proper power, "all public messages are NULL AND VOID, and have no effect on
>> the game" which should be enough to prevent any reasonable combination of
>> actions from changing the rules.
>> --
>> snail
> There is currently no Arbitor, but if there were, I would petition em to
> refrain from assigning this case until the ongoing Birthday Tournament
> ends (2023-11-15 23:45:22 UTC) to avoid influencing gameplay within the
> tournament.
>
> I encourage anyone who might be thinking of deputising to do the same.
>
> -Kate


I would go farther and suggest withdrawing this case, and initiating a
new one on the actual victory condition (*ever* being ossified) after
the Tournament concludes.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: [proposal] Increased weathering

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I submit the following proposal:

Title: Increased weathering

Author: Janet

Coauthors:

Adoption index:

{

Amend Rule 2640 ("Stones") by replacing "When a stone is transfered"
with "When a stone is transferred from Agora to a player".

[Disallows resetting mossiness by transferring from one player to another.]

}

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: (@Horsened) Re: BUS: Race action

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 12/25/22 13:12, ais523 via agora-business wrote:
> On Sun, 2022-12-18 at 23:42 +, ais523 via agora-business wrote:
>> Again, I gain 4 dollaries.
>>
> Again, I gain 4 dollaries.
>

As do I.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: [proposal] Increased weathering

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 12/25/22 15:31, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> I submit the following proposal:
>
> Title: Increased weathering
>
> Author: Janet
>
> Coauthors:
>
> Adoption index:
>
> {
>
> Amend Rule 2640 ("Stones") by replacing "When a stone is transfered"
> with "When a stone is transferred from Agora to a player".
>
> [Disallows resetting mossiness by transferring from one player to another.]
>
> }
>

If I submitted a proposal above, I withdraw it.

I submit a proposal with the above title, coauthors, and text and with
adoption index 2.0.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: [proposal] Definitely not a self-interested propoal

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I submit the following proposal:

Title: Mason's Stone buff

Author: Janet

Coauthors:

Adoption index: 2.0

{

Amend Rule 2645 ("The Stones") by replacing the list item beginning
"Mason's Stone" with the following:

{

- Mason's Stone (Monthly, 0): If the Mason's Stone is owned by the
Stonemason, its Mossiness is continuously set to 0. If the Mason's Stone
is owned by Agora, it is transferred to the Stonemason. When wielded, a
specified stone owned by Agora that is not the single mossiest stone
owned by Agora is transferred to the wielder.

}

}

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: (@Horsened) Re: BUS: Race action

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 12/26/22 16:14, ais523 via agora-business wrote:
> On Sun, 2022-12-25 at 18:12 +, ais523 via agora-business wrote:
>> Again, I gain 4 dollaries.
>>
> Again, I gain 4 dollaries.
>

As do I.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: [proposal] Effective complexity

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I submit the following proposal:

Title: Complex, but clear

Author: Janet

Coauthors:

Adoption index: 1.0

{

Amend Rule 2632 by replacing "The ADoP CAN, with 2 Agoran consent, flip
the complexity of an office." with "The ADoP CAN, with 2 Agoran consent,
flip the complexity of an office to a specified possible value.".

}


I submit the following proposal:

Title: Effective complexity

Author: Janet

Coauthors:

Adoption index: 2.0

{

Set the power of Rule 2632 ("Complexity") to 2.0.

Amend Rule 2632 ("Complexity") by replacing "Complexity is an office
switch" with "Complexity is a secured office switch".

}

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Election convergence [attn. ADoP]

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

For each ongoing Referee election, if that election has zero candidates,
I declare the election ended with no winner.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: [proposal] Stamp correction 2: electric boogaloo

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I submit the following proposal:

Title: Stamp correction

Author: Janet

Coauthors:

Adoption index: 1.0

{

Transfer each Janet stamp owned by the Lost and Found Department to Janet.

Destroy each Madrid stamp owned by the Lost and Found Department.

[These went through w/o objection but were accidentally ratified away.]

}

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8878-8884

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I vote as follows:
> 8878~   nix 2.0   Clearer Dream Text

FOR


> 8879~   Janet   2.0   Mason's Stone buff

FOR


> 8880~   Janet   1.0   Complex, but clear

FOR


> 8881~   Janet   2.0   Effective complexity

FOR


> 8882~   Janet   2.0   Referee referral reporting

FOR


> 8883~   Janet   2.0   Increased weathering v2

FOR


> 8884~   snail   1.0   A Bit Warmed Up
>
AGAINST

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: [proposal] Slightly less self-interested proposal

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I submit the following proposal:

Title: Nerfed Mason's Stone buff

Author: Janet

Coauthors:

Adoption index: 2.0

{

Amend Rule 2645 ("The Stones") by replacing the list item beginning
"Mason's Stone" with the following:

{

- Mason's Stone (Monthly, 0): If the Mason's Stone is owned by the
Stonemason, its Mossiness is continuously set to 0. If the Mason's Stone
is owned by Agora, it is transferred to the Stonemason. When wielded, the
mossiest stone owned by Agora (or, if there is a tie, a specified stone tied
for the same) is transferred to the wielder.

}

[Currently, I'm effectively locked out of owning any actually useful
stone without setting a Dream, which isn't really fair. If I attempt to
get rid of the Mason's stone, it can be forcibly transferred back to me
or will eventually be automatically transferred back to me, resetting
the 30 day time limit again. I can't pawn it off on an inactive player,
since only active players can hold stones, and if I transfer it to an
active player I reset their stone delay, likely angering them and
probably just getting it transferred back. This change would allow me to
actually participate in the part of the stone game that allows doing
things with stones.]

}

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Proposal Pool

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 1/8/23 13:58, secretsnail9 via agora-official wrote:
> 8885~   Janet   1.0   Stamp correction


I withdraw the above proposal.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: [proposal] Referee referral reporting

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I submit the following proposal:

Title: Referee referral reporting

Author: Janet

Coauthors:

Adoption index: 2.0

{

Amend Rule 2246 ("Submitting a CFJ to the Referee") by replacing the
second paragraph with the following:

{

When a CFJ is submitted to the Referee, the Referee receives all
obligations and powers, other than obligations to report, for that case
that the Arbitor would otherwise receive due to being Arbitor. This rule
takes precedence over Rules that would otherwise assign duties and
powers regarding to a judicial case to the Arbitor.

}


[Excludes reporting duties from being transferred to the Referee during
referral, which has caused some weirdness in the past (this also heavily
suggests that numbering should be done by the Arbitor, but that isn't
formalized). Also, cleans up the precedence language.]

}

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Election cycle

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 1/1/23 12:28, Edward Murphy via agora-official wrote:
> This is a Notice of Election, specifying and initiating elections for
> the offices of Notary, Promotor, Arbitor, Mad Engineer.


I become a candidate for Mad Engineer.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8873-8877

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 1/1/23 02:47, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote:
>
>> PROPOSAL 8876 (Stamp'a'Wrong)
>> AUTHOR: snail
>> CLASS: ORDINARY
>> FOR (5): Janet, Murphy, juan, nix, snail
>> AGAINST (0): 
>> PRESENT (0): 
>> BALLOTS: 5
>> AI (F/A): 15/0 (AI=1.0)
>> POPULARITY: 1.000
>> OUTCOME: ADOPTED
>> [
>> Janet: Endorsement of nix
>> ]
> COE: Proposal 8876's author is juan, not snail
>
> --
> snail


Admitted. Revision forthcoming.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Rewards for Proposals 8873-8877

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 1/1/23 01:15, Janet Cobb via agora-official wrote:
> For the adoption of Proposal 8876, I increase the score of snail by 5 points 
> (author).


This fails. snail was not the author of this proposal.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: [proposal] Increased weathering

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 12/26/22 00:25, Janet Cobb wrote:
> On 12/25/22 15:31, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote:
>> I submit the following proposal:
>>
>> Title: Increased weathering
>>
>> Author: Janet
>>
>> Coauthors:
>>
>> Adoption index:
>>
>> {
>>
>> Amend Rule 2640 ("Stones") by replacing "When a stone is transfered"
>> with "When a stone is transferred from Agora to a player".
>>
>> [Disallows resetting mossiness by transferring from one player to another.]
>>
>> }
>>
> If I submitted a proposal above, I withdraw it.
>
> I submit a proposal with the above title, coauthors, and text and with
> adoption index 2.0.
>

I withdraw each proposal submitted above.

I submit the following proposal:

Title: Increased weathering v2

Author: Janet

Coauthors:

Adoption index:

{

Amend Rule 2640 ("Stones") by replacing "When a stone is transfered"
with "When a stone is transferred from Agora to a player or from a
player to Agora".


[

Disallows resetting mossiness by transferring from one player to another.

v2: Still reset Mossiness on transfers to Agora so that it's last in the
queue to be claimed.

]

}

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: [proposal] Increased weathering

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 1/1/23 16:27, Janet Cobb wrote:
> I withdraw each proposal submitted above.
>
> I submit the following proposal:
>
> Title: Increased weathering v2
>
> Author: Janet
>
> Coauthors:
>
> Adoption index:
>
> {
>
> Amend Rule 2640 ("Stones") by replacing "When a stone is transfered"
> with "When a stone is transferred from Agora to a player or from a
> player to Agora".
>
>
> [
>
> Disallows resetting mossiness by transferring from one player to another.
>
> v2: Still reset Mossiness on transfers to Agora so that it's last in the
> queue to be claimed.
>
> ]
>
> }


I withdraw each proposal submitted above. (Proposals are hard, okay.)

I submit the following proposal:

Title: Increased weathering v2

Author: Janet

Coauthors:

Adoption index: 2.0

{

Amend Rule 2640 ("Stones") by replacing "When a stone is transfered"
with "When a stone is transferred from Agora to a player or from a
player to Agora".


[

Disallows resetting mossiness by transferring from one player to another.

v2: Still reset Mossiness on transfers to Agora so that it's last in the
queue to be claimed.

]

}

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Re: OFF: [Stonemason] Billboard Rock Chart - 4 Dec 2022

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 12/4/22 15:10, Janet Cobb via agora-official wrote:
> THE BILLBOARD ROCK CHART (STONEMASON'S WEEKLY REPORT)
>
> Stone  OwnerLast Wielded  Immune?
> -  ---    ---
> Power  Agora2022-10-02Agora
> Wealth Agora2022-10-02Agora
> Soul   Agora2021-02-14Agora
> Sabotage   Agora2022-09-25Agora
> Protection G.   2021-11-30Protection
> Recursion  Agora2022-11-06Agora
> Hot Potato Agora2022-09-03Agora
> Blank  Agora  Agora
> AlchemyAgora2022-03-27Agora
> Tasty  Agora2022-08-14Agora
> Jockey Agora2022-11-06Agora


CoE: the set of stones is incorrect after P8867.

Accepted. Revision forthcoming.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason 

Re: (@Horsened) Re: BUS: Race action

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 12/4/22 19:49, ais523 via agora-business wrote:
> On Mon, 2022-11-28 at 02:48 +, ais523 via agora-business wrote:
>> Again, I gain 4 dollaries.
>>
> Again, I gain 4 dollaries.
>

As do I.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Dreaming [attn. Dreamor]

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I envision Sharing.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: L Stamp cleanup

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I intend, without objection, to destroy 1 Madrid stamp owned by L

I intend, without objection, to transfer 1 Janet stamp from L to Janet.

[Dealing with single assets to avoid risk of invalidation if quantities
change.]

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: L Stamp cleanup

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 12/11/22 22:37, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> I intend, without objection, to destroy 1 Madrid stamp owned by L

I perform the following action 2 times:

{

Without objection, I destroy 1 Madrid stamp owned by L

}


> I intend, without objection, to transfer 1 Janet stamp from L to Janet.

I perform the following action 6 times:

{

Without objection, I transfer 1 Janet stamp from L to Janet.

}

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: [proposal] Fake fixes

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I submit the following proposal:

Tile: Fake fixes

Author: Janet

Coauthors: Murphy

Adoption index: 1.0

{

Amend Rule 2471 ("No Faking") to read, in whole:

{

A person SHALL NOT make a public statement that is a lie.

A statement is falsy if any of the following was true at the time of
publication:
* The statement was not true and the author knew or should have known
that it was not true.
* The author believed the statement to be not true.

A statement is a lie if it is falsy and any of the following is true:
* The author made the statement with intent to mislead.
* The author, in the same message, declared the statement to be made
"under penalty of No Faking" (or similar).

For the purposes of this rule, an attempt to perform an action by
publishing certain text constitutes an implicit statement that the
action was EFFECTIVE.

Merely quoting a statement or attempt does not constitute making it for
the purposes of this rule. Any disclaimer, conditional clause, or other
qualifier attached to a statement or attempt constitutes part of the
statement or attempt for the purposes of this rule; the truth or falsity
of the whole is what is significant.

The above notwithstanding, a formal announcement of intent is never a lie.

}

}

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8873-8877

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 12/18/22 17:38, secretsnail9 via agora-official wrote:
> 8873~   snail   1.0   Back from the void

ENDORSE nix


> 8874~   snail   1.0   The Big Horse Fix

PRESENT


> 8875~   snail   1.0   All Warmed Up

AGAINST


> 8876~   juan1.0   Stamp'a'Wrong

ENDORSE nix


> 8877~   Janet, Murphy   1.0   Fake fixes

FOR

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: (@Horsened) Re: BUS: Race action

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 12/18/22 18:42, ais523 via agora-business wrote:
> On Mon, 2022-12-05 at 00:49 +, ais523 via agora-business wrote:
>> Again, I gain 4 dollaries.
>>
> Again, I gain 4 dollaries.
>

As do I.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: (@Horsened) Re: BUS: Race action

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 11/27/22 15:29, ais523 via agora-business wrote:
> On Sun, 2022-11-20 at 01:44 +, ais523 via agora-business wrote:
>> Again, I gain 4 dollaries.
>>
> Again, I gain 4 dollaries.
>

As do I.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: (@Horsened) Re: BUS: Race action

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 11/27/22 21:48, ais523 via agora-business wrote:
> On Sun, 2022-11-27 at 20:29 +, ais523 via agora-business wrote:
>> Again, I gain 4 dollaries.
>>
> Again, I gain 4 dollaries.
>

As do I.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: Transitioning, of various kinds [attn. Registrar]

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 11/27/22 01:33, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> I change my Agoran name to Janet.
>
> I change my Agoran email address to ag...@randomcat.org
>

Confirming that this is me.

(hopefully this email actually works...)

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: [proposal] Once more, shall we?

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

I submit the following proposal:

Title: Mason's Stone repeal

Author: Janet

Coauthors:

Adoption index: 2.0

{

Amend Rule 2645 ("The Stones") by removing the list item beginning
"Mason's Stone (None, 0)".

[Only has effect if none of the buff proposals passed.]

}

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8885-8887

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 1/15/23 18:54, secretsnail9 via agora-official wrote:
> 8885~   Janet   2.0   Nerfed Mason's Stone buff

FOR


> 8886~   Janet   2.0   Mason's Stone repeal

FOR


> 8887~   Murphy, ais523  1.0   Schrodinger's Horse

PRESENT

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8889 and 8890

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 1/29/23 17:23, secretsnail9 via agora-official wrote:
> 8889~   4st, G. 1.0   Forced Mad Engineer Election

AGAINST


> 8890~   Murphy, 4st, G. 2.0   Here comes a new challenger!

PRESENT

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: Some Overdue Clean-Up

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 1/29/23 18:31, nix via agora-business wrote:
> There are way too many dead contracts right now. It's detrimental to
> gameplay to have all this clutter that makes it difficult to determine
> what things are active and useful. Thus below I intend to shred most
> existing contracts, and give a reason why. I recommend anyone that
> objects also addresses the reason, potentially by amending the contract.
>
> On 1/22/23 16:25, secretsnail9 via agora-official wrote:
>> "The Dragon Corporation"Aspen, Janet
> I intend, without 2 objections, to shred The Dragon Corporation. Nobody
> is keeping track of its assets (despite banknotes theoretically still
> accruing).


I object. I'll propose to eliminate or reduce assets, but I don't want
to see this go away entirely


>
>> "Vote Proxies"nix, Madrid, Janet
> I intend, with Contract Consent, to change the text of Vote Proxies to
> "Any party can terminate Vote Proxies by announcement." I intend,
> without 2 objections, to shred Vote Proxies.

I support the amendment intent.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 8888

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 1/29/23 17:02, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 11:19 PM Janet Cobb via agora-business <
> agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
>> On 1/22/23 17:23, secretsnail9 via agora-official wrote:
>>> ~   nix 2.0   More Powerful Dreams
>> ENDORSE nix
>>
>> --
>> Janet Cobb
>>
>> Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
>>
>>
> I vote FOR, though since I already used the charity dream it makes me
> slightly sad. To remedy this:
>
> I intend, without objection, to transfer 2 ais523 stamps from the Lost and
> Found Department to myself.
>
> I pledge, with a time window of 14 days, to not transfer more than 2 ais523
> stamps from the Lost and Found department to myself.
>
> --
> snail


I object.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Long Service Award Intents (@juan, @snail)

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 1/30/23 13:19, nix via agora-official wrote:
> Long past time to get these caught up. I'll try to do this about once a
> quarter in the future.
>
> Tho it is not currently rule-defined, the Herald traditionally
> recognizes long officer service by players. The criteria I currently use
> to award this is holding an office continuously for the specified time
> period.
>
> I intend, with 2 Agoran Consent, to award juan the patent title of
> "Three Months Long Service" (Registrar).
>
> I intend, with 2 Agoran Consent, to award snail the patent title of
> "Three Months Long Service" (Promotor, Notary, and Horsened).
>
> I intend, with 2 Agoran Consent, to award snail the patent title of "Six
> Months Long Service" (Promotor, and Notary).
>
> I intend, with 2 Agoran Consent, to award snail the patent title of
> "Nine Months Long Service" (Promotor).
>
> --
> nix
> Herald, Collector
>

I support each such intent.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: I can haz Mad Engineer?

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 1/27/23 17:26, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote:
> I intend to, with 2 support, initiate an election for Mad Engineer, thereby
> becoming a candidate.
>

This can't be resolved. Mad Engineer is neither interim nor term-limited.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 8888

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 1/22/23 17:23, secretsnail9 via agora-official wrote:
> ~   nix 2.0   More Powerful Dreams

ENDORSE nix

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: [Assessor] Vote on 8888

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 1/28/23 13:49, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote:
> I vote FOR on .
>

This fails, as you are not eligible.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: (@Herald, @Stonemason) Hello stone(s)?

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 1/15/23 20:21, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote:
> I transfer the Anti-Equatorial stone to myself, as it is tied for mossiest.


By what mechanism? You have possessed a stone in the last 30 days, so
you can't do it under R2642.

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: BUS: (@Herald, @Stonemason) Hello stone(s)?

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 1/15/23 20:21, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote:
> CFJ: I won the game in this message.
>
> Arguments for TRUE: The Anti-Equatorial stone has an effect as follows:
> "When wielded, the mossiest stone is transferred to the wielder."
>
> The latest stonemason's report says:
>
> StoneMossiness  OwnerLast Wielded  Immune?
> --  ---    ---
> Power2  Agora2022-10-02Agora
> Soul 2  Agora2021-02-14Agora
> Sabotage 2  Agora2022-09-25Agora
> Jockey   2  Agora2022-11-06Agora
> Protection   2  G.   2021-12-29
> Recursion2  Agora2022-11-06Agora
> Hot Potato   0  Agora2022-12-19Agora
> Blank2  Agora  Agora
> Mason's  0  Janet
> Anti-Equatorial  2  Agora  Agora
> Score0  snail2023-01-09
>
> Each stone with mossiness 2 (7 stones after i got the Anti-Equatorial
> stone) is "the mossiest stone". So all 7 stones were transferred to me. I
> also already own the score stone, bringing my total to 9 stones.
>
> Arguments for FALSE: it's a little silly


Gratuitous:

I don't think the initial transfer worked.

If it did: there is no "mossiest stone", and that is a term explicitly
defined. There is no one stone with the highest mossiest value, and it
is a violation of common sense to read the singular as being plural,
especially when the plural is defined. Additionally, other uses of
"mossiest" take great pain to explicitly handle the case of ties, so we
shouldn't read in such handling here when it has been omitted.


Rule 2640/3 (Power=2)
Stones

  A stone is a unique indestructable liquid asset defined by the
  rules. To define a stone, the definition must include:
(i) A name unique among stones;
   (ii) The smoothness of the stone, which is a non-negative integer;
  (iii) A description of the stone's properties
   (iv) Optionally, a frequency, which must be one of daily, weekly,
monthly, or quarterly.
  
  Ownership of stones is entirely restricted to Agora and active
  players.  If a stone is owned by the Lost and Found Department or
  in abeyance, it is immediately transferred to Agora.
  
  The Stonemason is an office, and the recordkeepor of stones.
  
  Mossiness is a Stone switch with values of non-negative integers
  and a default of 0 tracked by the Stonemason. When a stone is
  transferred from Agora to a player or from a player to Agora, its
  Mossiness is set to 0. The mossiest stone(s) in a set of stone is
  (are) the stone(s) with the highest Mossiness value.
  
  The Slipperiness of a stone is that stone's smoothness plus its
  mossiness.



-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason

Re: (@Horsened) BUS: Race action

[Janet Cobb via agora-business]

On 1/22/23 14:54, ais523 via agora-business wrote:
> I pay 1 hoof to get a helmet for Rubert. (This fails if the previous
> action succeeded, because I can only perform one race action each
> week.)


I pay 1 hoof to get a helmet for Rubert.

[ais will never lead me astray.]

-- 
Janet Cobb

Assessor, Mad Engineer, Rulekeepor, S​tonemason