Re: [Ai] DRISHTI - an accessibility solution for visually impaired

[Akash Kakkar via Ai]

sir, will the app be available for android as well?

On 8/1/17, Prashant Ranjan Verma  via Ai
 wrote:
> Dear all,
> I have tested the app. It is extremely useful. Its OCR results in particular
> are very accurate.
> It does not have channels like the Seeing AI but with a much simpler
> interface and allows you to do almost the same things.
> It is identifying currency accurately unlike Seeing AI as of now.
>
> Hope it is made available to general public soon. It is exciting times for
> the visually impaired smart phone users. It can be made to work with smart
> glasses and then the possibilities are endless.
>
> Prashant
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> -Original Message-
> From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
> Vimal Dengla via Ai
> Sent: 31 July 2017 22:46
> To: Share, empower  
> Cc: Vimal Dengla ; NAB - Honorary General Secretary
> ; Pallavi Kadam ;
> sayeverything 
> Subject: [Ai] DRISHTI - an accessibility solution for visually impaired
>
> dear friends,
>  I am sharing the following information with you all. this app is going  to
> come soon for all of us. NAB,India is involved in this project with  the
> developer team. we hope to get it soon for all. the trial app is
> distributed to some selected persons.
>  -
>  1. Overview & Intro
>  Disambiguating Real-time Insights for Supporting Humans with Intelligence.
>  Drishti is an accessibility solution for visually impaired persons that
> helps them see their nearby  world. The mobile app lets its user click a
> photo from their phone and  analyze the scene captured.
>  In other words, Drishti is a guided assisted solution for the blind that
> reduces dependency on  Human assistance. It was developed by Accenture
> Technology Labs, India.
>  An AI based Platform, it leverages the best of Open Source, Open
> Innovation, Commercial and  Accenture IP. It was designed for social
> inclusion of visually impaired  people, improving the way  they live and
> work.
>  Some salient features of Drishti are:
>  Offers various functionalities like Scene caption, Face detection &
> recognition,  OCR, Natural Language Generation and many more.
>  Built on Top of Drishti Framework developed by Accenture Labs  Supports
> Multilingual conversational interface and Human Centric Design  Check out
> the video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnnm0ao3pGQ
>  Drishti helps in identifying the captured images as follow:
>  Initial Analysis
>  Deep Analysis
>  Face Detection
>  Face Recognition
>  OCR
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Re: [Ai] REQUIRE CONTACT OF MS. VIDYA Y

[Mahendra Galani via Ai]

Hi, she is on the list, hope she will reply soon.
t 10:24 AM 8/2/2017 +0530, you wrote:

A very good morning to all!
This is Shubham Arya, a student from Delhi. I require the contact of
Ms. Vidya Y, so please help.
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Re: [Ai] REQUIRE CONTACT OF MS. VIDYA Y

[Vidhya Y via Ai]

hi all,

I have replied directly to Shubham. please don't share my contact
number directly on this forum.

Thanks and Regards,
Vidhya.

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[Ai] IBM Accessibility Checklist

[Alok Kaushik via Ai]

Hi,

This accessibility checklist released by IBM consolidates several accessibility 
guidelines and  requirements, including the following.

 

1.   Revised US section 508 compliance

2.   European N 301 549 standards

3.   WCAG 2.0

 

This covers web based software, non-web based software, and  documentation.

 

It  could be  useful for  some of  us.

 

http://www-03.ibm.com/able/guidelines/ci162/accessibility_checklist.html?platform=hootsuite

 

Thanks.

Alok

 

 

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Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday: Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman

[gatak singh via Ai]

anyway. this is my last comment.
as I said, the best way to escape from answering the questions is to
just say, 'stop the discussion'.

On 8/1/17, Shireen Irani via Ai  wrote:
> this debate has gone way passed any disability issue. why it is still
> being allowed to continue on this list is a mystery. particularly in
> the absence of the exact facts that could have made such a discussion
> 'on this list', worthwhile.
>
>
>
> On 8/1/17, bhawani shankar verma via Ai
>  wrote:
>> marrital rape is just a matter of discussion among so called educated,
>> women
>> activists and highprofile society.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: gatak singh via Ai
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 11:51 AM
>> To: Share, empower 
>> Cc: gatak singh
>> Subject: Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday:
>> Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman
>>
>> has there been any cases where a married women has filed a rape case
>> against her own husband in the past?
>> I have never read such cases. just wanted to know.
>>
>>
>> On 8/1/17, Kanchan Pamnani via Ai 
>> wrote:
>>> Just by marrying someone does it mitigate rape? You have  mentioned this
>>> twice in your email.
>>> I think we should get into a proper discussion on some of the concepts
>>> discussed in this article and by many of you. It will help broaden
>>> thinking.
>>> K
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
>>> gatak singh via Ai
>>> Sent: 01 August 2017 11:11
>>> To: Share, empower 
>>> Cc: gatak singh; jnuvision
>>> Subject: Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday:
>>> Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman
>>>
>>> sorry for discussing again but I couldn't stop commenting on this matter.
>>> I know few examples where the girl has not accepted the proposal of the
>>> boy,
>>> but when the boy got a government job, she threatened to marry her
>>> otherwise
>>> she would go to the court aledging that he promised to marry but did not
>>> keep up his promise. so boy had to marry her due to fear of loosing his
>>> government job.
>>> in this matter, boy had promised that he would marry that girl. what I
>>> understand is that girl may have agreed for sex based on this promise.
>>> but in any case, boy should have married her. but he did not marry,
>>> that's
>>> his mistake. but this should be called cheating rather than rape.
>>> someone said that women feel shy or disgusted to go to courts saying that
>>> she was raped. but I dont agree to this. that women should have
>>> immidiately
>>> gone to the court when she was raped for the first time.
>>> from my understanding, women dont go to courts because if this comes in
>>> the
>>> media and if everybody comes to know about that, nobody would marry her.
>>> but
>>> in this case, she was already married once, and there wasn't any matter
>>> to
>>> fear.
>>> this is nothing but hipocracy at its peak. if he had married her, she
>>> would
>>> have never complained. here, he did not marry, hence it automatically
>>> turned
>>> into rape case. rape is rape. women can change the situation however they
>>> want. it was not rape before 2 years, then how can it be called rape now?
>>> I am not in anyway supporting the rapists. but just speaking about this
>>> case.
>>> I wonder what was the proof for the marriage promise that he had made.
>>> was there any recording or document? or judge just believed her oral
>>> words?
>>> I can understand the psychology of the female members on this list.
>>> they can't speak against that aledged female victim, because females
>>> should
>>> support the females. but the fact is that men are often exploited legally
>>> due to the biased laws.
>>> someone said that father raping his own daughter, brother raping his own
>>> sister comes to light after so many years. this happens because the girl
>>> will be minor in that situation. in this case, girl was not minor. she
>>> had
>>>
>>> 8
>>> year old child, which means she was matured enough.
>>> so, as mahajan sir said, both of them are equally culprits in this case.
>>> the best way to escape from the discussion is to just say, 'how can we
>>> talk
>>> when we are not in that situation'.
>>> anyway, I feel that boy should had kept up to his promise, then it would
>>> have been never called rape. but this punishment is very harsh on him,
>>> who
>>> was not 100% culprit.
>>>
>>> On 7/26/17, avinash shahi via Ai 
>>> wrote:
 http://www.hindustantimes.com/gurgaon/gurgaon-blind-banker-gets-10-yea
 r-jail-for-raping-blind-woman/story-xQAJGpWmso2ioCesDHV2UM.html

 A Gurgaon district court on Monday awarded 10 years rigorous
 imprisonment to a blind man, a trainee probationary officer at a
 public sector bank, who was 

Re: [Ai] Synthia Anand reports: Aranging 1000 scribes for the Blind: A blessing to visually impaired students

[Avichal Bhatnagar via Ai]

There are some measures which need to be adopted urgently.
For instance, the places where computer is an innate part of the job,
exams for such jobs should be given by the blind people on computers
on their own.
Also, its high time that we stop justifying the wrong, because then
everybody can have a justification for their misdeeds.
Solving mathematical problems in competitive exams may be challenging
and so people take a scribe for that, but I wonder why such people
have to also pass the university exams by the same means?
Now the situation has also started to deteriorate in schools, thanks
to the wonderful MSJE guidelines on scribes.


On 8/2/17, Santosh Gandigude via Ai  wrote:
> Teachers and Governments responsibility to teach Mathematics and
> Science subjects atleast 10th standard with the help of modern
> computer software technologies,special devices,tactile diagrams. It is
> also good to understanding the diagrams,equations and structures by
> putting fingers on palm of hand.
>
> On 8/2/17, Dipendra Manocha via Ai 
> wrote:
>> Our experience with children has been very encouraging. Once we believe
>> in
>> it and our students, they respond very positively to take up such
>> challenges. Both at NAB Delhi and at Saksham where such policy has been
>> put
>> in place along with support, children have certainly responded
>> positively.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Dipendra
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
>> r
>> k sarin via Ai
>> Sent: 01 August 2017 12:08
>> To: Share, empower  
>> Cc: r k sarin 
>> Subject: Re: [Ai] Synthia Anand reports: Aranging 1000 scribes for the
>> Blind: A blessing to visually impaired students
>>
>> This cannot be solved in a day. It is a long process. We have to make use
>> of
>> the computer compulsory and give training of this effect. With full
>> assurance, I can say that even if you ask these students to write their
>> exams in Braille, they will not agree.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "gatak singh via Ai" 
>> To: "Share, empower " 
>> Cc: "gatak singh" ; "jnuvision"
>> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 9:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Ai] Synthia Anand reports: Aranging 1000 scribes for the
>> Blind: A blessing to visually impaired students
>>
>>
>>>I stay in bangalore and many people like pallavi are doing great job.
>>> if I would talk about writing exams independently, I also support this
>>>view but most of them will not agree to this. we all agree because we
>>>are using emails, computers. but most of them does not even know to
>>>use email service. that's the problem.
>>>
>>> On 7/31/17, avinash shahi via Ai 
>>> wrote:
 http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/bangalore/a-blessing-to-visually-
 impaired-students/article19392711.ece

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Re: [Ai] accessing demat account by visually impaired

[Amar Jain via Ai]

Aakash,

Google for DP Operational / Inspection Manual, and read account opening 
instructions for blind. That sorts out Demat issue with CDSL / NSDL. For 
trading accounts, look for the circular of stock exchanges dated May 12, 2015.

Get your basics in place before approaching them. Understand the parties 
involved, function of each account, how do you want to trade, trading volume 
which you can generate, etc. Lot of basic stuff is available on Google, and 
FAQs is a great way to start.

I am from Jodhpur, so being a Rajasthani bhai, happy to help you with your 
doubts over a call. But I would appreciate that you read up before calling. 
Lets talk over weekend: 9892622230.

Regards,
Amar Jain

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> Yes you can open I'm using demet  an trading accounts
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>> On August 2, 2017 7:58:17 AM Akash Gupta via Ai 
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>> Dear Friends,
>> I would like to open a demat account. Please suggest me accessible
>> demat. I have denied to open demat account by some companies. Is there
>> any circular issued by SEBI in this regards?
>> 
>> --
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>> Akash Gupta
>> Rajasthan
>> Skype: akash.gupta2412
>> 
>> 
>> The only thing worse than being blind is having sight but no vision.
>> By "Helen Keller".
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Re: [Ai] accessing demat account by visually impaired

[kuldeep jaiman via Ai]

Yes you can open I'm using demet  an trading accounts


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Dear Friends,
I would like to open a demat account. Please suggest me accessible
demat. I have denied to open demat account by some companies. Is there
any circular issued by SEBI in this regards?

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Rajasthan
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[Ai] accessing demat account by visually impaired

[Akash Gupta via Ai]

Dear Friends,
I would like to open a demat account. Please suggest me accessible
demat. I have denied to open demat account by some companies. Is there
any circular issued by SEBI in this regards?

-- 
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Skype: akash.gupta2412


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Re: [Ai] software cracks

[r k sarin via Ai]

Issue of totally personal interest. After retirement, I am making efforts to 
write books in Hindi medium for the students of graduation course, 
particularly, relating to political science as I got chance to teach 
political science in Satyawati College (Evening). For this, I have started a 
publication with the name of Raktim Prakashan whih is a registered body. I 
have two issues: 1. Through this group, I am interested to invite writers 
who are interested in writing in Hindi for not only various courses of 
academics but also even otherwise and I have decided to bringforth books in 
a blindfriendly accessible format. 2. I am still writing through safa using 
phonetics way of writing Hindi and I am comfortable with it but the issue is 
that it cannot run on window 7. I either wish to explore the possibilities 
whether it is possible to use safa in window-7 or can I Use NVDA for hindi 
and is it possible to use phoneticcs with the facility of pronouncing each 
andd every alphabet while writing as it happens in the case of using safa in 
window XP. Suggestions and support of the group is desired.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dipendra Manocha via Ai" 

To: "'Share, empower '" 
Cc: "Dipendra Manocha" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 4:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Ai] software cracks



Dear all

Sharing my realization of this and the shift I made to correct the course:

NVDA does provide a respectable and fully functional alternative to Jaws. 
I
can  mention this because I am using it full time for past four years. I 
use

computer for almost 14 hours every day and did not have to switch to Jaws
for anything. I am not a software developer but use it as a reading and
writing tool like most of us.

I do have Jaws license but use it only for testing few applications as 
part

of my work for their compatibility with Jaws.

Why did I shift:

We now have developers working on NVDA in India. If we are all using NVDA,
we have scope of getting it improved as per our needs. Indian Language
support and availability of Phonetic words for each character for Indian
languages are few of such examples.

We definitely  need to improve  software for ourselves. By being a user of
NVDA we contribute in its development. Because providing feedback itself 
is
the method of developing the software further. Providing support in its 
use

too is a big service that we do when we become a user of a software. By
using Pirated software, we  not just lose our right to contribute in its
development and getting our problem solved, we block scope of further
enhancement in  a legally available alternatives.

If we are able to adopt alternatives for critical needs of ours such as 
the

screen reading software and OCR, we can do a big service to their further
development.

In past few days we read about availability of free of cost alternative 
for

OCR. We can certainly try it out and see where it is not working for us.
This can help developers to make such improvements and provide a solution.

This shift  to affordable alternatives and being able to interact with
software developers has helped me to  live with dignity and assist in
working towards solutions for several of our long pending problems of
digital empowerment.

Same thought process and way of living also got translated to books and
working with publishers and the amendment in our copy-right law.

Thanks
Dipendra


-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
Alok Kaushik via Ai
Sent: 01 August 2017 13:14
To: 'Share, empower ' 
Cc: Alok Kaushik 
Subject: Re: [Ai] software cracks

This thread may have been closed on account of reference to pirated
software. However, response in following mail is  compelling and is very
important for all of us  to understand. It definitely brought many 
thoughts

to the surface and I felt a strong drive to put them down.

These are just preliminary thoughts and like many social or moral issues,
they may not have a single conclusion.

Most of us have developed a tendency of getting everything for free and
expecting everyone to be supportive of us in whatever  we may do.

Surely most people choose to  ignore the effort that it takes to create
something. If  the creator  of that software or any other  thing does not
intend to distribute it for free what right do we have to have it for 
free?


It  may sound like a hard comparison but do we  accept and justify any act
of  crime,  small or big, if the person doing it is a needy condition?
Impact of software piracy is not part of experience of the  person using 
it,

so it is much easier to ignore or justify it.

On the contrary, from a social policy and analysis point of view, we say
that if we do not channelize our  youth in productive activities, crime in
the society would increase. This is an 

Re: [Ai] software cracks

[Aravind R via Ai]

use insert + number pad keys for jaws cursor functions. Object
navigation in NVDA is almost similar to jaws cursor

On 8/2/17, bhawani shankar verma via Ai
 wrote:
> Sir, could you please let me know what is the alternet of jaws cursore,
> invisible cursore etc in NVDA and how to use it. I tried a lot but could not
>
> succeeded. I have downloaded and listen the manual but no success. I prefer
>
> NVDA specially for hindi unicode documents with  E speak. I also request you
>
> to please develop virtual ribben in NVDA as in jfw.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dipendra Manocha via Ai
> Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 4:15 AM
> To: 'Share, empower '
> Cc: Dipendra Manocha
> Subject: Re: [Ai] software cracks
>
> Dear all
>
> Sharing my realization of this and the shift I made to correct the course:
>
> NVDA does provide a respectable and fully functional alternative to Jaws. I
> can  mention this because I am using it full time for past four years. I
> use
> computer for almost 14 hours every day and did not have to switch to Jaws
> for anything. I am not a software developer but use it as a reading and
> writing tool like most of us.
>
> I do have Jaws license but use it only for testing few applications as part
> of my work for their compatibility with Jaws.
>
> Why did I shift:
>
> We now have developers working on NVDA in India. If we are all using NVDA,
> we have scope of getting it improved as per our needs. Indian Language
> support and availability of Phonetic words for each character for Indian
> languages are few of such examples.
>
> We definitely  need to improve  software for ourselves. By being a user of
> NVDA we contribute in its development. Because providing feedback itself is
> the method of developing the software further. Providing support in its use
> too is a big service that we do when we become a user of a software. By
> using Pirated software, we  not just lose our right to contribute in its
> development and getting our problem solved, we block scope of further
> enhancement in  a legally available alternatives.
>
> If we are able to adopt alternatives for critical needs of ours such as the
> screen reading software and OCR, we can do a big service to their further
> development.
>
> In past few days we read about availability of free of cost alternative for
> OCR. We can certainly try it out and see where it is not working for us.
> This can help developers to make such improvements and provide a solution.
>
> This shift  to affordable alternatives and being able to interact with
> software developers has helped me to  live with dignity and assist in
> working towards solutions for several of our long pending problems of
> digital empowerment.
>
> Same thought process and way of living also got translated to books and
> working with publishers and the amendment in our copy-right law.
>
> Thanks
> Dipendra
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
> Alok Kaushik via Ai
> Sent: 01 August 2017 13:14
> To: 'Share, empower ' 
> Cc: Alok Kaushik 
> Subject: Re: [Ai] software cracks
>
> This thread may have been closed on account of reference to pirated
> software. However, response in following mail is  compelling and is very
> important for all of us  to understand. It definitely brought many thoughts
> to the surface and I felt a strong drive to put them down.
>
> These are just preliminary thoughts and like many social or moral issues,
> they may not have a single conclusion.
>
> Most of us have developed a tendency of getting everything for free and
> expecting everyone to be supportive of us in whatever  we may do.
>
> Surely most people choose to  ignore the effort that it takes to create
> something. If  the creator  of that software or any other  thing does not
> intend to distribute it for free what right do we have to have it for free?
>
> It  may sound like a hard comparison but do we  accept and justify any act
> of  crime,  small or big, if the person doing it is a needy condition?
> Impact of software piracy is not part of experience of the  person using
> it,
> so it is much easier to ignore or justify it.
>
> On the contrary, from a social policy and analysis point of view, we say
> that if we do not channelize our  youth in productive activities, crime in
> the society would increase. This is an empirical observation, whether one
> debates for or against it. One  would justify based on where he / she
> stands.
>
> If JAWS crack  was not so common in the visually impaired community,
> wouldn't we have been further behind in terms of our our sustenance and
> growth? But a person from an impoverished background would give a similar
> argument after  committing a crime as well. So  is  that justified?
>
> While moral standpoints have no  single  answer,  its practical
> implications
> are definitely 

Re: [Ai] software cracks

[bhawani shankar verma via Ai]

Sir, could you please let me know what is the alternet of jaws cursore, 
invisible cursore etc in NVDA and how to use it. I tried a lot but could not 
succeeded. I have downloaded and listen the manual but no success. I prefer 
NVDA specially for hindi unicode documents with  E speak. I also request you 
to please develop virtual ribben in NVDA as in jfw.



-Original Message- 
From: Dipendra Manocha via Ai

Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 4:15 AM
To: 'Share, empower '
Cc: Dipendra Manocha
Subject: Re: [Ai] software cracks

Dear all

Sharing my realization of this and the shift I made to correct the course:

NVDA does provide a respectable and fully functional alternative to Jaws. I
can  mention this because I am using it full time for past four years. I use
computer for almost 14 hours every day and did not have to switch to Jaws
for anything. I am not a software developer but use it as a reading and
writing tool like most of us.

I do have Jaws license but use it only for testing few applications as part
of my work for their compatibility with Jaws.

Why did I shift:

We now have developers working on NVDA in India. If we are all using NVDA,
we have scope of getting it improved as per our needs. Indian Language
support and availability of Phonetic words for each character for Indian
languages are few of such examples.

We definitely  need to improve  software for ourselves. By being a user of
NVDA we contribute in its development. Because providing feedback itself is
the method of developing the software further. Providing support in its use
too is a big service that we do when we become a user of a software. By
using Pirated software, we  not just lose our right to contribute in its
development and getting our problem solved, we block scope of further
enhancement in  a legally available alternatives.

If we are able to adopt alternatives for critical needs of ours such as the
screen reading software and OCR, we can do a big service to their further
development.

In past few days we read about availability of free of cost alternative for
OCR. We can certainly try it out and see where it is not working for us.
This can help developers to make such improvements and provide a solution.

This shift  to affordable alternatives and being able to interact with
software developers has helped me to  live with dignity and assist in
working towards solutions for several of our long pending problems of
digital empowerment.

Same thought process and way of living also got translated to books and
working with publishers and the amendment in our copy-right law.

Thanks
Dipendra


-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
Alok Kaushik via Ai
Sent: 01 August 2017 13:14
To: 'Share, empower ' 
Cc: Alok Kaushik 
Subject: Re: [Ai] software cracks

This thread may have been closed on account of reference to pirated
software. However, response in following mail is  compelling and is very
important for all of us  to understand. It definitely brought many thoughts
to the surface and I felt a strong drive to put them down.

These are just preliminary thoughts and like many social or moral issues,
they may not have a single conclusion.

Most of us have developed a tendency of getting everything for free and
expecting everyone to be supportive of us in whatever  we may do.

Surely most people choose to  ignore the effort that it takes to create
something. If  the creator  of that software or any other  thing does not
intend to distribute it for free what right do we have to have it for free?

It  may sound like a hard comparison but do we  accept and justify any act
of  crime,  small or big, if the person doing it is a needy condition?
Impact of software piracy is not part of experience of the  person using it,
so it is much easier to ignore or justify it.

On the contrary, from a social policy and analysis point of view, we say
that if we do not channelize our  youth in productive activities, crime in
the society would increase. This is an empirical observation, whether one
debates for or against it. One  would justify based on where he / she
stands.

If JAWS crack  was not so common in the visually impaired community,
wouldn't we have been further behind in terms of our our sustenance and
growth? But a person from an impoverished background would give a similar
argument after  committing a crime as well. So  is  that justified?

While moral standpoints have no  single  answer,  its practical implications
are definitely obvious,  as  mentioned in the  following mail.

Thanks.
Alok

-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
Dipendra Manocha via Ai
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 7:33 AM
To: 'Share, empower '
Cc: Dipendra Manocha
Subject: [Ai] software cracks

Dear Chirag
If affordability was a problem, did you try out methods of  accomplishing
this 

Re: [Ai] Synthia Anand reports: Aranging 1000 scribes for the Blind: A blessing to visually impaired students

[Dipendra Manocha via Ai]

Our experience with children has been very encouraging. Once we believe in
it and our students, they respond very positively to take up such
challenges. Both at NAB Delhi and at Saksham where such policy has been put
in place along with support, children have certainly responded positively.

Thanks
Dipendra




-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of r
k sarin via Ai
Sent: 01 August 2017 12:08
To: Share, empower  
Cc: r k sarin 
Subject: Re: [Ai] Synthia Anand reports: Aranging 1000 scribes for the
Blind: A blessing to visually impaired students

This cannot be solved in a day. It is a long process. We have to make use of
the computer compulsory and give training of this effect. With full
assurance, I can say that even if you ask these students to write their
exams in Braille, they will not agree.
- Original Message -
From: "gatak singh via Ai" 
To: "Share, empower " 
Cc: "gatak singh" ; "jnuvision" 

Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Synthia Anand reports: Aranging 1000 scribes for the
Blind: A blessing to visually impaired students


>I stay in bangalore and many people like pallavi are doing great job.
> if I would talk about writing exams independently, I also support this  
>view but most of them will not agree to this. we all agree because we  
>are using emails, computers. but most of them does not even know to  
>use email service. that's the problem.
>
> On 7/31/17, avinash shahi via Ai 
> wrote:
>> http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/bangalore/a-blessing-to-visually-
>> impaired-students/article19392711.ece
>>
>> --
>> Avinash Shahi
>> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU
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Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday: Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman

[Ajay Minocha via Ai]

Don't understand why people bring their personal sour experiences and
judge the world only on that basis?

On 8/1/17, r k sarin via Ai  wrote:
> You are absolutely right, it should not be stretched further.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Shireen Irani via Ai" 
> To: "Share, empower " 
> Cc: "Shireen Irani" 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 3:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday:
> Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman
>
>
>> this debate has gone way passed any disability issue. why it is still
>> being allowed to continue on this list is a mystery. particularly in
>> the absence of the exact facts that could have made such a discussion
>> 'on this list', worthwhile.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/1/17, bhawani shankar verma via Ai
>>  wrote:
>>> marrital rape is just a matter of discussion among so called educated,
>>> women
>>> activists and highprofile society.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: gatak singh via Ai
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 11:51 AM
>>> To: Share, empower 
>>> Cc: gatak singh
>>> Subject: Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday:
>>> Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman
>>>
>>> has there been any cases where a married women has filed a rape case
>>> against her own husband in the past?
>>> I have never read such cases. just wanted to know.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/1/17, Kanchan Pamnani via Ai 
>>> wrote:
 Just by marrying someone does it mitigate rape? You have  mentioned this
 twice in your email.
 I think we should get into a proper discussion on some of the concepts
 discussed in this article and by many of you. It will help broaden
 thinking.
 K

 -Original Message-
 From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf
 Of
 gatak singh via Ai
 Sent: 01 August 2017 11:11
 To: Share, empower 
 Cc: gatak singh; jnuvision
 Subject: Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday:
 Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman

 sorry for discussing again but I couldn't stop commenting on this
 matter.
 I know few examples where the girl has not accepted the proposal of the
 boy,
 but when the boy got a government job, she threatened to marry her
 otherwise
 she would go to the court aledging that he promised to marry but did not
 keep up his promise. so boy had to marry her due to fear of loosing his
 government job.
 in this matter, boy had promised that he would marry that girl. what I
 understand is that girl may have agreed for sex based on this promise.
 but in any case, boy should have married her. but he did not marry,
 that's
 his mistake. but this should be called cheating rather than rape.
 someone said that women feel shy or disgusted to go to courts saying
 that
 she was raped. but I dont agree to this. that women should have
 immidiately
 gone to the court when she was raped for the first time.
 from my understanding, women dont go to courts because if this comes in
 the
 media and if everybody comes to know about that, nobody would marry her.
 but
 in this case, she was already married once, and there wasn't any matter
 to
 fear.
 this is nothing but hipocracy at its peak. if he had married her, she
 would
 have never complained. here, he did not marry, hence it automatically
 turned
 into rape case. rape is rape. women can change the situation however
 they
 want. it was not rape before 2 years, then how can it be called rape
 now?
 I am not in anyway supporting the rapists. but just speaking about this
 case.
 I wonder what was the proof for the marriage promise that he had made.
 was there any recording or document? or judge just believed her oral
 words?
 I can understand the psychology of the female members on this list.
 they can't speak against that aledged female victim, because females
 should
 support the females. but the fact is that men are often exploited
 legally
 due to the biased laws.
 someone said that father raping his own daughter, brother raping his own
 sister comes to light after so many years. this happens because the girl
 will be minor in that situation. in this case, girl was not minor. she
 had

 8
 year old child, which means she was matured enough.
 so, as mahajan sir said, both of them are equally culprits in this case.
 the best way to escape from the discussion is to just say, 'how can we
 talk
 when we are not in that situation'.
 anyway, I feel that boy should had kept up to 

Re: [Ai] Himachal Pradesh: Visually impaired Kullu girl in Sa Re Ga Ma Little Champs

[Surinder via Ai]

The link was working fine in the morning but now it has been removed by 
UTube due to certain copyright issues.
- Original Message - 
From: "Shyam M. Sayanekar via Ai" 

To: "Share, empower " 
Cc: "Shyam M. Sayanekar" 
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Himachal Pradesh: Visually impaired Kullu girl in Sa Re Ga 
Ma Little Champs



Hello, I tried to play the link but got the message that the video has 
been removed.
- Original Message - 
From: "Surinder via Ai" 

To: "Share, empower " 
Cc: "Surinder" 
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Himachal Pradesh: Visually impaired Kullu girl in Sa Re 
Ga Ma Little Champs




Here is the UTube link for Payal Thakur's performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4yi7QKSigk

- Original Message - 
From: "Santosh Gandigude via Ai" 

To: "Share, empower " 
Cc: "Santosh Gandigude" ; "jnuvision" 


Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Himachal Pradesh: Visually impaired Kullu girl in Sa Re 
Ga Ma Little Champs




I heard Payal Thakur's programme yesterday evening. Indian Peoples
wasted thousand of rupees on very bad things,but that money is not
given to needy persons to empower them.

On 7/31/17, avinash shahi via Ai  
wrote:

Kullu: Visually impaired Payal of the Chander Abha Blind School at
Kullu will perform in the TV show, Sa Re Ga Ma Little Champs. Payal
could not make it
to the list of top 80 contestants during the auditions, but she was
later invited to Mumbai after an overall review. Payal has once again
got an entry
into the TV show. Her performance was so heart-felt that one of the
judges, Neha, announced that she would gift a taxi to her fatherPayal
has proved that
a girl can bring laurels to her family, even if she was differently
abled and be an inspiration to others as well. Her parents Sunita and
Tevinder took
care of her despite going financial crisis. Tevinder runs a
three-wheeler in Kullu while Sunita is a housewife. Payal is studying
in Class VII at Government
School in Sultanpur, Kullu. She has learnt music from Pandit
Vidyasagar Sharma of Sutradhar Kala Sangam here for the past eight
years. She has also performed
at the Kala Kendra during the Dasehra festival and had won many
laurels at various cultural events. TNS
http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/himachal/visually-impaired-kullu-girl-in-sa-re-ga-ma-little-champs/71.html

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Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday: Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman

[r k sarin via Ai]

You are absolutely right, it should not be stretched further.
- Original Message - 
From: "Shireen Irani via Ai" 

To: "Share, empower " 
Cc: "Shireen Irani" 
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday: 
Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman




this debate has gone way passed any disability issue. why it is still
being allowed to continue on this list is a mystery. particularly in
the absence of the exact facts that could have made such a discussion
'on this list', worthwhile.



On 8/1/17, bhawani shankar verma via Ai
 wrote:
marrital rape is just a matter of discussion among so called educated, 
women

activists and highprofile society.


-Original Message-
From: gatak singh via Ai
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 11:51 AM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: gatak singh
Subject: Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday:
Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman

has there been any cases where a married women has filed a rape case
against her own husband in the past?
I have never read such cases. just wanted to know.


On 8/1/17, Kanchan Pamnani via Ai 
wrote:

Just by marrying someone does it mitigate rape? You have  mentioned this
twice in your email.
I think we should get into a proper discussion on some of the concepts
discussed in this article and by many of you. It will help broaden
thinking.
K

-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf 
Of

gatak singh via Ai
Sent: 01 August 2017 11:11
To: Share, empower 
Cc: gatak singh; jnuvision
Subject: Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday:
Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman

sorry for discussing again but I couldn't stop commenting on this 
matter.

I know few examples where the girl has not accepted the proposal of the
boy,
but when the boy got a government job, she threatened to marry her
otherwise
she would go to the court aledging that he promised to marry but did not
keep up his promise. so boy had to marry her due to fear of loosing his
government job.
in this matter, boy had promised that he would marry that girl. what I
understand is that girl may have agreed for sex based on this promise.
but in any case, boy should have married her. but he did not marry, 
that's

his mistake. but this should be called cheating rather than rape.
someone said that women feel shy or disgusted to go to courts saying 
that

she was raped. but I dont agree to this. that women should have
immidiately
gone to the court when she was raped for the first time.
from my understanding, women dont go to courts because if this comes in
the
media and if everybody comes to know about that, nobody would marry her.
but
in this case, she was already married once, and there wasn't any matter 
to

fear.
this is nothing but hipocracy at its peak. if he had married her, she
would
have never complained. here, he did not marry, hence it automatically
turned
into rape case. rape is rape. women can change the situation however 
they
want. it was not rape before 2 years, then how can it be called rape 
now?

I am not in anyway supporting the rapists. but just speaking about this
case.
I wonder what was the proof for the marriage promise that he had made.
was there any recording or document? or judge just believed her oral
words?
I can understand the psychology of the female members on this list.
they can't speak against that aledged female victim, because females
should
support the females. but the fact is that men are often exploited 
legally

due to the biased laws.
someone said that father raping his own daughter, brother raping his own
sister comes to light after so many years. this happens because the girl
will be minor in that situation. in this case, girl was not minor. she 
had


8
year old child, which means she was matured enough.
so, as mahajan sir said, both of them are equally culprits in this case.
the best way to escape from the discussion is to just say, 'how can we
talk
when we are not in that situation'.
anyway, I feel that boy should had kept up to his promise, then it would
have been never called rape. but this punishment is very harsh on him, 
who

was not 100% culprit.

On 7/26/17, avinash shahi via Ai 
wrote:

http://www.hindustantimes.com/gurgaon/gurgaon-blind-banker-gets-10-yea
r-jail-for-raping-blind-woman/story-xQAJGpWmso2ioCesDHV2UM.html

A Gurgaon district court on Monday awarded 10 years rigorous
imprisonment to a blind man, a trainee probationary officer at a
public sector bank, who was found guilty of raping a 33-year-old blind
widow repeatedly on the pretext of marriage.

The court also imposed a penalty on convict Saurabh 

Re: [Ai] Problem with BSNL wifi connection

[Austin Pinto via Ai]

yes.
you can take dvoice ion network connection.
it is the best in this area.

On 8/1/17, D H via Ai  wrote:
> hi,
>
> even i faced the same problem with my MTNL wifi connection here  in delhi
> i odged complaint multiple times but noone come to see whats the
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> but i took the diffrent private wifi connection because i guess its
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>
> On 8/1/17, Chandrashekhar Kulkarni via Ai
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>> I am from Maharashtra Kalyan district, Dombiwali.
>> For last 8 to 10 days we are facing problem with BSNL wifi connection.
>> We are not able to get connection. Even after complaining many times
>> the problem is not solved. They say you have to  reset your router.
>> There engineer did the reset job  twice in a day the connection comes
>> only for a while. There is no chance of any virus as I have Net
>> Protector paid antivirus installed and is regularly updated. We get
>> connection if we connect Tata Poton.
>> I would therefore  seek help about the following-
>> 1. Is it possible for a totally blind person to do router setting
>> using Jaws. When I rang to 1500 they gave me the steps but it is very
>> difficult to remember. They say they cannot mail me the steps.
>> Actually it seems a job of hardly 5 to 10 minutes. I have BSNL router.
>> Is it a good one or I need to try for a different one from outside
>> market? If possible please give me instructions step by step for
>> resetting the router.
>> 2. Please give me e-mail ID for lodging a complaint about the delay in
>> solving this problem and for claiming discount in the bill for
>> inavailibility of service.
>> Hoping to hear soon,
>> Sincerely,
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Re: [Ai] Problem with BSNL wifi connection

[D H via Ai]

hi,

even i faced the same problem with my MTNL wifi connection here  in delhi
i odged complaint multiple times but noone come to see whats the
problem,my brother in law is IT engineer he reset the router for me
but i took the diffrent private wifi connection because i guess its
not viable to keep any govt connection seriously they never pay
attention for any complaint
so,my suggestion is to take another wifi connection.

On 8/1/17, Chandrashekhar Kulkarni via Ai
 wrote:
> Dear List Members,
> I am from Maharashtra Kalyan district, Dombiwali.
> For last 8 to 10 days we are facing problem with BSNL wifi connection.
> We are not able to get connection. Even after complaining many times
> the problem is not solved. They say you have to  reset your router.
> There engineer did the reset job  twice in a day the connection comes
> only for a while. There is no chance of any virus as I have Net
> Protector paid antivirus installed and is regularly updated. We get
> connection if we connect Tata Poton.
> I would therefore  seek help about the following-
> 1. Is it possible for a totally blind person to do router setting
> using Jaws. When I rang to 1500 they gave me the steps but it is very
> difficult to remember. They say they cannot mail me the steps.
> Actually it seems a job of hardly 5 to 10 minutes. I have BSNL router.
> Is it a good one or I need to try for a different one from outside
> market? If possible please give me instructions step by step for
> resetting the router.
> 2. Please give me e-mail ID for lodging a complaint about the delay in
> solving this problem and for claiming discount in the bill for
> inavailibility of service.
> Hoping to hear soon,
> Sincerely,
> C. B. Kulkarni
>
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> skype ID: chandrashekhar.b.kulkarni
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Re: [Ai] DRISHTI - an accessibility solution for visually impaired

[Prashant Ranjan Verma via Ai]

Dear all,
I have tested the app. It is extremely useful. Its OCR results in particular 
are very accurate.
It does not have channels like the Seeing AI but with a much simpler interface 
and allows you to do almost the same things.
It is identifying currency accurately unlike Seeing AI as of now.

Hope it is made available to general public soon. It is exciting times for the 
visually impaired smart phone users. It can be made to work with smart glasses 
and then the possibilities are endless. 

Prashant 

-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of Vimal 
Dengla via Ai
Sent: 31 July 2017 22:46
To: Share, empower  
Cc: Vimal Dengla ; NAB - Honorary General Secretary 
; Pallavi Kadam ; sayeverything 

Subject: [Ai] DRISHTI - an accessibility solution for visually impaired

dear friends,
 I am sharing the following information with you all. this app is going  to 
come soon for all of us. NAB,India is involved in this project with  the 
developer team. we hope to get it soon for all. the trial app is  distributed 
to some selected persons.
 -
 1. Overview & Intro
 Disambiguating Real-time Insights for Supporting Humans with Intelligence.
 Drishti is an accessibility solution for visually impaired persons that  helps 
them see their nearby  world. The mobile app lets its user click a photo from 
their phone and  analyze the scene captured.
 In other words, Drishti is a guided assisted solution for the blind that  
reduces dependency on  Human assistance. It was developed by Accenture 
Technology Labs, India.
 An AI based Platform, it leverages the best of Open Source, Open  Innovation, 
Commercial and  Accenture IP. It was designed for social inclusion of visually 
impaired  people, improving the way  they live and work.
 Some salient features of Drishti are:
 Offers various functionalities like Scene caption, Face detection &  
recognition,  OCR, Natural Language Generation and many more.
 Built on Top of Drishti Framework developed by Accenture Labs  Supports 
Multilingual conversational interface and Human Centric Design  Check out the 
video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnnm0ao3pGQ
 Drishti helps in identifying the captured images as follow:
 Initial Analysis
 Deep Analysis
 Face Detection
 Face Recognition
 OCR
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Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday: Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman

[Sandeep Singh via Ai]

It's quite common in the advanced countries, many such cases are
reported there. Men there and women also understand the meaning of
equal rights and true liberation. I did hear one case being reported
in India a few years ago but don't remember any details. Try to
google.

On 8/1/17, Shireen Irani via Ai  wrote:
> this debate has gone way passed any disability issue. why it is still
> being allowed to continue on this list is a mystery. particularly in
> the absence of the exact facts that could have made such a discussion
> 'on this list', worthwhile.
>
>
>
> On 8/1/17, bhawani shankar verma via Ai
>  wrote:
>> marrital rape is just a matter of discussion among so called educated,
>> women
>> activists and highprofile society.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: gatak singh via Ai
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 11:51 AM
>> To: Share, empower 
>> Cc: gatak singh
>> Subject: Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday:
>> Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman
>>
>> has there been any cases where a married women has filed a rape case
>> against her own husband in the past?
>> I have never read such cases. just wanted to know.
>>
>>
>> On 8/1/17, Kanchan Pamnani via Ai 
>> wrote:
>>> Just by marrying someone does it mitigate rape? You have  mentioned this
>>> twice in your email.
>>> I think we should get into a proper discussion on some of the concepts
>>> discussed in this article and by many of you. It will help broaden
>>> thinking.
>>> K
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
>>> gatak singh via Ai
>>> Sent: 01 August 2017 11:11
>>> To: Share, empower 
>>> Cc: gatak singh; jnuvision
>>> Subject: Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday:
>>> Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman
>>>
>>> sorry for discussing again but I couldn't stop commenting on this matter.
>>> I know few examples where the girl has not accepted the proposal of the
>>> boy,
>>> but when the boy got a government job, she threatened to marry her
>>> otherwise
>>> she would go to the court aledging that he promised to marry but did not
>>> keep up his promise. so boy had to marry her due to fear of loosing his
>>> government job.
>>> in this matter, boy had promised that he would marry that girl. what I
>>> understand is that girl may have agreed for sex based on this promise.
>>> but in any case, boy should have married her. but he did not marry,
>>> that's
>>> his mistake. but this should be called cheating rather than rape.
>>> someone said that women feel shy or disgusted to go to courts saying that
>>> she was raped. but I dont agree to this. that women should have
>>> immidiately
>>> gone to the court when she was raped for the first time.
>>> from my understanding, women dont go to courts because if this comes in
>>> the
>>> media and if everybody comes to know about that, nobody would marry her.
>>> but
>>> in this case, she was already married once, and there wasn't any matter
>>> to
>>> fear.
>>> this is nothing but hipocracy at its peak. if he had married her, she
>>> would
>>> have never complained. here, he did not marry, hence it automatically
>>> turned
>>> into rape case. rape is rape. women can change the situation however they
>>> want. it was not rape before 2 years, then how can it be called rape now?
>>> I am not in anyway supporting the rapists. but just speaking about this
>>> case.
>>> I wonder what was the proof for the marriage promise that he had made.
>>> was there any recording or document? or judge just believed her oral
>>> words?
>>> I can understand the psychology of the female members on this list.
>>> they can't speak against that aledged female victim, because females
>>> should
>>> support the females. but the fact is that men are often exploited legally
>>> due to the biased laws.
>>> someone said that father raping his own daughter, brother raping his own
>>> sister comes to light after so many years. this happens because the girl
>>> will be minor in that situation. in this case, girl was not minor. she
>>> had
>>>
>>> 8
>>> year old child, which means she was matured enough.
>>> so, as mahajan sir said, both of them are equally culprits in this case.
>>> the best way to escape from the discussion is to just say, 'how can we
>>> talk
>>> when we are not in that situation'.
>>> anyway, I feel that boy should had kept up to his promise, then it would
>>> have been never called rape. but this punishment is very harsh on him,
>>> who
>>> was not 100% culprit.
>>>
>>> On 7/26/17, avinash shahi via Ai 
>>> wrote:
 http://www.hindustantimes.com/gurgaon/gurgaon-blind-banker-gets-10-yea
 r-jail-for-raping-blind-woman/story-xQAJGpWmso2ioCesDHV2UM.html

 A Gurgaon district court on 

Re: [Ai] Himachal Pradesh: Visually impaired Kullu girl in Sa Re Ga Ma Little Champs

[manohar vaswani via Ai]

the video has been removed

On 8/1/17, Surinder via Ai  wrote:
> Here is the UTube link for Payal Thakur's performance.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4yi7QKSigk
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Santosh Gandigude via Ai" 
> To: "Share, empower " 
> Cc: "Santosh Gandigude" ; "jnuvision"
> 
> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 12:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ai] Himachal Pradesh: Visually impaired Kullu girl in Sa Re Ga
>
> Ma Little Champs
>
>
>>I heard Payal Thakur's programme yesterday evening. Indian Peoples
>> wasted thousand of rupees on very bad things,but that money is not
>> given to needy persons to empower them.
>>
>> On 7/31/17, avinash shahi via Ai 
>> wrote:
>>> Kullu: Visually impaired Payal of the Chander Abha Blind School at
>>> Kullu will perform in the TV show, Sa Re Ga Ma Little Champs. Payal
>>> could not make it
>>> to the list of top 80 contestants during the auditions, but she was
>>> later invited to Mumbai after an overall review. Payal has once again
>>> got an entry
>>> into the TV show. Her performance was so heart-felt that one of the
>>> judges, Neha, announced that she would gift a taxi to her fatherPayal
>>> has proved that
>>> a girl can bring laurels to her family, even if she was differently
>>> abled and be an inspiration to others as well. Her parents Sunita and
>>> Tevinder took
>>> care of her despite going financial crisis. Tevinder runs a
>>> three-wheeler in Kullu while Sunita is a housewife. Payal is studying
>>> in Class VII at Government
>>> School in Sultanpur, Kullu. She has learnt music from Pandit
>>> Vidyasagar Sharma of Sutradhar Kala Sangam here for the past eight
>>> years. She has also performed
>>> at the Kala Kendra during the Dasehra festival and had won many
>>> laurels at various cultural events. TNS
>>> http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/himachal/visually-impaired-kullu-girl-in-sa-re-ga-ma-little-champs/71.html
>>>
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Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday: Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman

[Shireen Irani via Ai]

this debate has gone way passed any disability issue. why it is still
being allowed to continue on this list is a mystery. particularly in
the absence of the exact facts that could have made such a discussion
'on this list', worthwhile.



On 8/1/17, bhawani shankar verma via Ai
 wrote:
> marrital rape is just a matter of discussion among so called educated, women
> activists and highprofile society.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gatak singh via Ai
> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 11:51 AM
> To: Share, empower 
> Cc: gatak singh
> Subject: Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday:
> Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman
>
> has there been any cases where a married women has filed a rape case
> against her own husband in the past?
> I have never read such cases. just wanted to know.
>
>
> On 8/1/17, Kanchan Pamnani via Ai 
> wrote:
>> Just by marrying someone does it mitigate rape? You have  mentioned this
>> twice in your email.
>> I think we should get into a proper discussion on some of the concepts
>> discussed in this article and by many of you. It will help broaden
>> thinking.
>> K
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
>> gatak singh via Ai
>> Sent: 01 August 2017 11:11
>> To: Share, empower 
>> Cc: gatak singh; jnuvision
>> Subject: Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday:
>> Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman
>>
>> sorry for discussing again but I couldn't stop commenting on this matter.
>> I know few examples where the girl has not accepted the proposal of the
>> boy,
>> but when the boy got a government job, she threatened to marry her
>> otherwise
>> she would go to the court aledging that he promised to marry but did not
>> keep up his promise. so boy had to marry her due to fear of loosing his
>> government job.
>> in this matter, boy had promised that he would marry that girl. what I
>> understand is that girl may have agreed for sex based on this promise.
>> but in any case, boy should have married her. but he did not marry, that's
>> his mistake. but this should be called cheating rather than rape.
>> someone said that women feel shy or disgusted to go to courts saying that
>> she was raped. but I dont agree to this. that women should have
>> immidiately
>> gone to the court when she was raped for the first time.
>> from my understanding, women dont go to courts because if this comes in
>> the
>> media and if everybody comes to know about that, nobody would marry her.
>> but
>> in this case, she was already married once, and there wasn't any matter to
>> fear.
>> this is nothing but hipocracy at its peak. if he had married her, she
>> would
>> have never complained. here, he did not marry, hence it automatically
>> turned
>> into rape case. rape is rape. women can change the situation however they
>> want. it was not rape before 2 years, then how can it be called rape now?
>> I am not in anyway supporting the rapists. but just speaking about this
>> case.
>> I wonder what was the proof for the marriage promise that he had made.
>> was there any recording or document? or judge just believed her oral
>> words?
>> I can understand the psychology of the female members on this list.
>> they can't speak against that aledged female victim, because females
>> should
>> support the females. but the fact is that men are often exploited legally
>> due to the biased laws.
>> someone said that father raping his own daughter, brother raping his own
>> sister comes to light after so many years. this happens because the girl
>> will be minor in that situation. in this case, girl was not minor. she had
>>
>> 8
>> year old child, which means she was matured enough.
>> so, as mahajan sir said, both of them are equally culprits in this case.
>> the best way to escape from the discussion is to just say, 'how can we
>> talk
>> when we are not in that situation'.
>> anyway, I feel that boy should had kept up to his promise, then it would
>> have been never called rape. but this punishment is very harsh on him, who
>> was not 100% culprit.
>>
>> On 7/26/17, avinash shahi via Ai 
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>>> http://www.hindustantimes.com/gurgaon/gurgaon-blind-banker-gets-10-yea
>>> r-jail-for-raping-blind-woman/story-xQAJGpWmso2ioCesDHV2UM.html
>>>
>>> A Gurgaon district court on Monday awarded 10 years rigorous
>>> imprisonment to a blind man, a trainee probationary officer at a
>>> public sector bank, who was found guilty of raping a 33-year-old blind
>>> widow repeatedly on the pretext of marriage.
>>>
>>> The court also imposed a penalty on convict Saurabh Kapoor, 35, who
>>> was convicted of rape under Section 376 of the IPC.
>>>
>>> Additional Sessions Judge Rajni Yadav, while pronouncing the quantum
>>> of sentence, said that given the 

Re: [Ai] Himachal Pradesh: Visually impaired Kullu girl in Sa Re Ga Ma Little Champs

[Shyam M. Sayanekar via Ai]

Hello, I tried to play the link but got the message that the video has been 
removed.
- Original Message - 
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To: "Share, empower " 
Cc: "Surinder" 
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Himachal Pradesh: Visually impaired Kullu girl in Sa Re Ga 
Ma Little Champs




Here is the UTube link for Payal Thakur's performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4yi7QKSigk

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Himachal Pradesh: Visually impaired Kullu girl in Sa Re 
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I heard Payal Thakur's programme yesterday evening. Indian Peoples
wasted thousand of rupees on very bad things,but that money is not
given to needy persons to empower them.

On 7/31/17, avinash shahi via Ai  
wrote:

Kullu: Visually impaired Payal of the Chander Abha Blind School at
Kullu will perform in the TV show, Sa Re Ga Ma Little Champs. Payal
could not make it
to the list of top 80 contestants during the auditions, but she was
later invited to Mumbai after an overall review. Payal has once again
got an entry
into the TV show. Her performance was so heart-felt that one of the
judges, Neha, announced that she would gift a taxi to her fatherPayal
has proved that
a girl can bring laurels to her family, even if she was differently
abled and be an inspiration to others as well. Her parents Sunita and
Tevinder took
care of her despite going financial crisis. Tevinder runs a
three-wheeler in Kullu while Sunita is a housewife. Payal is studying
in Class VII at Government
School in Sultanpur, Kullu. She has learnt music from Pandit
Vidyasagar Sharma of Sutradhar Kala Sangam here for the past eight
years. She has also performed
at the Kala Kendra during the Dasehra festival and had won many
laurels at various cultural events. TNS
http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/himachal/visually-impaired-kullu-girl-in-sa-re-ga-ma-little-champs/71.html

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[Ai] Google Chrome goes silent repeatedly while reading news paper

[Ram Soni via Ai]

Google Chrome goes silent while reading news paper. Then I have to
press alt tab  to switch over and again come back to news paper by
pressing alt tab to read. This happens frequently. Does any one knows
how to overcome this problem?

RBL Soni
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Re: [Ai] accessible help for booking OLA cab/Auto

[gatak singh via Ai]

I use ola and uber very often. if you compare with accessibility, uber
is better than ola. but auto service is not available on uber.
however, both of them are not fully accessible, but partly accessible.
you can manage booking easily. follow these steps to book ola.
1. open the ola app, it will ask you to turn on the location. click
yes. your device location will be on.
2. enter the pickup and drop location. those are properly labelled.
3. select the type of ride that you want to take. for example, auto,
ola share, prime, micro, etc.
note: your screen reader will not respond when you double tap on those
option, but it will get selected.
4. find the ride now option at the bottom of your screen.
5. select the payment method. like cash, ola money, debit card.
note: in order to pay with ola money, you will have to load money into
your ola money wallet. to pay with debit card, you must link your card
with your ola account.
6. click on the confirm booking button. you will ready to go!
7.you will get a confirmation message from ola, in which the car
number, driver name and number will be given. you can also call the
driver and talk to him.
8. an OTP will be also provided to you in that message. you will have
to give that OTP to your driver when you board the cab.
hope it helps. I have written these steps assuming you are using the
android app.
I am not using IOS so unable to help on that. let me know if you need
any help in booking uber cab.
thanks.


On 8/1/17, Saravanan via Ai  wrote:
> Dear Friends,
>
> How much OLA app for android is accessible to VI persons.
> Can somebody provide me the information of booking OLA Cab/Auto by a VI
> person using OLA app for android.
> Is there any other accessible app for android for booking cab/Auto other
> than OLA app that make it easier for VI persons.
>
> Thanks
> Saravanan.K
> +91 9916512402
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[Ai] Problem with BSNL wifi connection

[Chandrashekhar Kulkarni via Ai]

Dear List Members,
I am from Maharashtra Kalyan district, Dombiwali.
For last 8 to 10 days we are facing problem with BSNL wifi connection.
We are not able to get connection. Even after complaining many times
the problem is not solved. They say you have to  reset your router.
There engineer did the reset job  twice in a day the connection comes
only for a while. There is no chance of any virus as I have Net
Protector paid antivirus installed and is regularly updated. We get
connection if we connect Tata Poton.
I would therefore  seek help about the following-
1. Is it possible for a totally blind person to do router setting
using Jaws. When I rang to 1500 they gave me the steps but it is very
difficult to remember. They say they cannot mail me the steps.
Actually it seems a job of hardly 5 to 10 minutes. I have BSNL router.
Is it a good one or I need to try for a different one from outside
market? If possible please give me instructions step by step for
resetting the router.
2. Please give me e-mail ID for lodging a complaint about the delay in
solving this problem and for claiming discount in the bill for
inavailibility of service.
Hoping to hear soon,
Sincerely,
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Re: [Ai] Synthia Anand reports: Aranging 1000 scribes for the Blind: A blessing to visually impaired students

[Kartik Sawhney via Ai]

I certainly do not agree with replacing math and science with other
subjects. As you said, students need to be taught these from the
beginning. We also need to have educators who can help develop their
interest in these subjects.

On 7/31/17, gatak singh via Ai  wrote:
> I have attended few banking and SSC exams. the problem is that there
> are so many complicated mathematics in the question paper. it is
> impossible for a visually challenged to solve these calculations on
> his own. because, most have them have not studied mathematics in their
> high school and colleges. even though that person is capable of
> solving those problems on his own, he falls short of time. it is
> impossible to solve them in stipulated one hour time. so, I feel that
> visually challenged students should be taught mathematics from their
> school level, or people with blindness should be given alternative in
> exams as well. like the schools have alternative subjects for
> mathematics and science such as political science and economics.
>
> On 8/1/17, George Abraham via Ai 
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>> Well, that is the change we need to make. As Dipendra said, there needs
>> to
>> be a policy in place, technology needs to be introduced and blind and
>> visually impaired children in blind schools and other schools have to be
>> taught to use computers for their day to day operations. This might sound
>> disruptive to begin with but believe that is the way to go if we are
>> looking forward to an inclusive society moving forward.
>>
>> -Original Message-
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>> gatak singh via Ai
>> Sent: 01 August 2017 09:52
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>> Subject: Re: [Ai] Synthia Anand reports: Aranging 1000 scribes for the
>> Blind: A blessing to visually impaired students
>>
>> I stay in bangalore and many people like pallavi are doing great job.
>> if I would talk about writing exams independently, I also support this
>> view but most of them will not agree to this. we all agree because we
>> are using emails, computers. but most of them does not even know to
>> use email service. that's the problem.
>>
>> On 7/31/17, avinash shahi via Ai 
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>> http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/bangalore/a-blessing-to-visually-impair
>> ed-students/article19392711.ece
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Re: [Ai] Synthia Anand reports: Aranging 1000 scribes for the Blind: A blessing to visually impaired students

[gatak singh via Ai]

I have attended few banking and SSC exams. the problem is that there
are so many complicated mathematics in the question paper. it is
impossible for a visually challenged to solve these calculations on
his own. because, most have them have not studied mathematics in their
high school and colleges. even though that person is capable of
solving those problems on his own, he falls short of time. it is
impossible to solve them in stipulated one hour time. so, I feel that
visually challenged students should be taught mathematics from their
school level, or people with blindness should be given alternative in
exams as well. like the schools have alternative subjects for
mathematics and science such as political science and economics.

On 8/1/17, George Abraham via Ai  wrote:
> Well, that is the change we need to make. As Dipendra said, there needs to
> be a policy in place, technology needs to be introduced and blind and
> visually impaired children in blind schools and other schools have to be
> taught to use computers for their day to day operations. This might sound
> disruptive to begin with but believe that is the way to go if we are
> looking forward to an inclusive society moving forward.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
> gatak singh via Ai
> Sent: 01 August 2017 09:52
> To: Share, empower 
> Cc: gatak singh; jnuvision
> Subject: Re: [Ai] Synthia Anand reports: Aranging 1000 scribes for the
> Blind: A blessing to visually impaired students
>
> I stay in bangalore and many people like pallavi are doing great job.
> if I would talk about writing exams independently, I also support this
> view but most of them will not agree to this. we all agree because we
> are using emails, computers. but most of them does not even know to
> use email service. that's the problem.
>
> On 7/31/17, avinash shahi via Ai 
> wrote:
>>
> http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/bangalore/a-blessing-to-visually-impair
> ed-students/article19392711.ece
>>
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Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday: Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman

[gatak singh via Ai]

has there been any cases where a married women has filed a rape case
against her own husband in the past?
I have never read such cases. just wanted to know.


On 8/1/17, Kanchan Pamnani via Ai  wrote:
> Just by marrying someone does it mitigate rape? You have  mentioned this
> twice in your email.
> I think we should get into a proper discussion on some of the concepts
> discussed in this article and by many of you. It will help broaden thinking.
> K
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
> gatak singh via Ai
> Sent: 01 August 2017 11:11
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> Subject: Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday:
> Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman
>
> sorry for discussing again but I couldn't stop commenting on this matter.
> I know few examples where the girl has not accepted the proposal of the boy,
> but when the boy got a government job, she threatened to marry her otherwise
> she would go to the court aledging that he promised to marry but did not
> keep up his promise. so boy had to marry her due to fear of loosing his
> government job.
> in this matter, boy had promised that he would marry that girl. what I
> understand is that girl may have agreed for sex based on this promise.
> but in any case, boy should have married her. but he did not marry, that's
> his mistake. but this should be called cheating rather than rape.
> someone said that women feel shy or disgusted to go to courts saying that
> she was raped. but I dont agree to this. that women should have immidiately
> gone to the court when she was raped for the first time.
> from my understanding, women dont go to courts because if this comes in the
> media and if everybody comes to know about that, nobody would marry her. but
> in this case, she was already married once, and there wasn't any matter to
> fear.
> this is nothing but hipocracy at its peak. if he had married her, she would
> have never complained. here, he did not marry, hence it automatically turned
> into rape case. rape is rape. women can change the situation however they
> want. it was not rape before 2 years, then how can it be called rape now?
> I am not in anyway supporting the rapists. but just speaking about this
> case.
> I wonder what was the proof for the marriage promise that he had made.
> was there any recording or document? or judge just believed her oral words?
> I can understand the psychology of the female members on this list.
> they can't speak against that aledged female victim, because females should
> support the females. but the fact is that men are often exploited legally
> due to the biased laws.
> someone said that father raping his own daughter, brother raping his own
> sister comes to light after so many years. this happens because the girl
> will be minor in that situation. in this case, girl was not minor. she had 8
> year old child, which means she was matured enough.
> so, as mahajan sir said, both of them are equally culprits in this case.
> the best way to escape from the discussion is to just say, 'how can we talk
> when we are not in that situation'.
> anyway, I feel that boy should had kept up to his promise, then it would
> have been never called rape. but this punishment is very harsh on him, who
> was not 100% culprit.
>
> On 7/26/17, avinash shahi via Ai  wrote:
>> http://www.hindustantimes.com/gurgaon/gurgaon-blind-banker-gets-10-yea
>> r-jail-for-raping-blind-woman/story-xQAJGpWmso2ioCesDHV2UM.html
>>
>> A Gurgaon district court on Monday awarded 10 years rigorous
>> imprisonment to a blind man, a trainee probationary officer at a
>> public sector bank, who was found guilty of raping a 33-year-old blind
>> widow repeatedly on the pretext of marriage.
>>
>> The court also imposed a penalty on convict Saurabh Kapoor, 35, who
>> was convicted of rape under Section 376 of the IPC.
>>
>> Additional Sessions Judge Rajni Yadav, while pronouncing the quantum
>> of sentence, said that given the inhumanity of the act, it was
>> required to impose upon the convict substantive and stern sentence
>> that would commensurate with the gravity of the offence and also serve
>> as an example to others.
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>> It is to be noted that since both the victim and the accused were
>> blind, the court had relied upon ‘voice identification’ that helped
>> the woman to identify Kapoor, a resident of Mayur Vihar in Delhi.
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>> On the pretext of meeting an advocate, Kapoor had taken the victim on
>> May 30, 2015, to a guest house in Gurgaon and raped her there for the
>> first time. He later continued to abuse her, promising marriage.
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>> company in 2015, when the incident happened. She is currently
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Re: [Ai] software cracks

[Alok Kaushik via Ai]

This thread may have been closed on account of reference to pirated software. 
However, response in following mail is  compelling and is very important for 
all of us  to understand. It definitely brought many thoughts to the surface 
and I felt a strong drive to put them down.

These are just preliminary thoughts and like many social or moral issues, they 
may not have a single conclusion.

Most of us have developed a tendency of getting everything for free and 
expecting everyone to be supportive of us in whatever  we may do.

Surely most people choose to  ignore the effort that it takes to create 
something. If  the creator  of that software or any other  thing does not 
intend to distribute it for free what right do we have to have it for free?

It  may sound like a hard comparison but do we  accept and justify any act of  
crime,  small or big, if the person doing it is a needy condition? Impact of 
software piracy is not part of experience of the  person using it, so it is 
much easier to ignore or justify it.

On the contrary, from a social policy and analysis point of view, we say that 
if we do not channelize our  youth in productive activities, crime in the 
society would increase. This is an empirical observation, whether one debates 
for or against it. One  would justify based on where he / she stands.

If JAWS crack  was not so common in the visually impaired community, wouldn't 
we have been further behind in terms of our our sustenance and  growth? But a 
person from an impoverished background would give a similar argument after  
committing a crime as well. So  is  that justified?

While moral standpoints have no  single  answer,  its practical implications 
are definitely obvious,  as  mentioned in the  following mail.

Thanks.
Alok

-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
Dipendra Manocha via Ai
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 7:33 AM
To: 'Share, empower '
Cc: Dipendra Manocha
Subject: [Ai] software cracks

Dear Chirag
If affordability was a problem, did you try out methods of  accomplishing this 
task with free or open source tools available to us in any way?

Even if we do not realise,  we pay a very heavy cost for pirated software.
This is because we  condemn  those developers to starvation who try to develop 
software for us. Thus no sensible person would try to  develop anything for us. 
For example, did you ever think why Fine Reader doesn't have any Indian 
Language in it?

Thanks
Dipendra


-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
Chirag Mittal via Ai
Sent: 31 July 2017 22:24
To: Share, empower  
Cc: Chirag Mittal 
Subject: Re: [Ai] any tool which can convert pdf to word

Please try fine reder.Its great and can be use ofline also.You can easily 
convert pdf to word and vice versa.For cracking it u can contact me anytime on 
9729402525

On 7/31/17, r k sarin via Ai  wrote:
> I use to change PDF files into word file through fine reader.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dr. G. Janardhana Naidu via Ai" 
> 
> To: "Share, empower " 
> Cc: "Dr. G. Janardhana Naidu" 
> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 6:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ai] any tool which can convert pdf to word
>
>
>> Dear Varma Sir, Thanks for the information. But zamzar.com requires 
>> internet. Is there any off line free tool? Does zamzar.com convert 
>> regional language such as telugu pdf files in to word?
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Janardhana Naidu.
>>
>> On 7/30/17, bhawani shankar verma via Ai 
>>  wrote:
>>> open book, k1000, fine reader are paid software. there are many 
>>> online utilities like zamzar.com you can upload your file and in 
>>> result you will get converted word file.
>>>
>>>
>>> From: samidha dhumatkar via Ai
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 2:36 PM
>>> To: Share, empower 
>>> Cc: samidha dhumatkar
>>> Subject: Re: [Ai] any tool which can convert pdf to word
>>>
>>> I you can use openbook
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 30, 2017 2:24 PM, "sazid shaik via Ai"
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>   dear list,
>>>   I am having a pdf document as my nvda is not reading that document.  I
>>>   want to convert that into word document by which i can read that
>>>   document with nvda.  kindly share that tool and suggest.
>>>
>>>   thanks and regards,
>>>   sazid
>>>   Disclaimer:
>>>   1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the 
>>> thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates 
>>> itself to its veracity;
>>>
>>>   2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on 
>>> the mails sent through this mailing list..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   To check if the post reached the list or to search for old 
>>> posting,
>>> reach:

Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday: Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman

[Sandeep Singh via Ai]

Exactly, that is the point. In Indian conditions a man raping a girl
is less guilty than the girl being raped. This mindset has to go.

On 8/1/17, Kanchan Pamnani via Ai  wrote:
> Just by marrying someone does it mitigate rape? You have  mentioned this
> twice in your email.
> I think we should get into a proper discussion on some of the concepts
> discussed in this article and by many of you. It will help broaden thinking.
> K
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
> gatak singh via Ai
> Sent: 01 August 2017 11:11
> To: Share, empower 
> Cc: gatak singh; jnuvision
> Subject: Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday:
> Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman
>
> sorry for discussing again but I couldn't stop commenting on this matter.
> I know few examples where the girl has not accepted the proposal of the boy,
> but when the boy got a government job, she threatened to marry her otherwise
> she would go to the court aledging that he promised to marry but did not
> keep up his promise. so boy had to marry her due to fear of loosing his
> government job.
> in this matter, boy had promised that he would marry that girl. what I
> understand is that girl may have agreed for sex based on this promise.
> but in any case, boy should have married her. but he did not marry, that's
> his mistake. but this should be called cheating rather than rape.
> someone said that women feel shy or disgusted to go to courts saying that
> she was raped. but I dont agree to this. that women should have immidiately
> gone to the court when she was raped for the first time.
> from my understanding, women dont go to courts because if this comes in the
> media and if everybody comes to know about that, nobody would marry her. but
> in this case, she was already married once, and there wasn't any matter to
> fear.
> this is nothing but hipocracy at its peak. if he had married her, she would
> have never complained. here, he did not marry, hence it automatically turned
> into rape case. rape is rape. women can change the situation however they
> want. it was not rape before 2 years, then how can it be called rape now?
> I am not in anyway supporting the rapists. but just speaking about this
> case.
> I wonder what was the proof for the marriage promise that he had made.
> was there any recording or document? or judge just believed her oral words?
> I can understand the psychology of the female members on this list.
> they can't speak against that aledged female victim, because females should
> support the females. but the fact is that men are often exploited legally
> due to the biased laws.
> someone said that father raping his own daughter, brother raping his own
> sister comes to light after so many years. this happens because the girl
> will be minor in that situation. in this case, girl was not minor. she had 8
> year old child, which means she was matured enough.
> so, as mahajan sir said, both of them are equally culprits in this case.
> the best way to escape from the discussion is to just say, 'how can we talk
> when we are not in that situation'.
> anyway, I feel that boy should had kept up to his promise, then it would
> have been never called rape. but this punishment is very harsh on him, who
> was not 100% culprit.
>
> On 7/26/17, avinash shahi via Ai  wrote:
>> http://www.hindustantimes.com/gurgaon/gurgaon-blind-banker-gets-10-yea
>> r-jail-for-raping-blind-woman/story-xQAJGpWmso2ioCesDHV2UM.html
>>
>> A Gurgaon district court on Monday awarded 10 years rigorous
>> imprisonment to a blind man, a trainee probationary officer at a
>> public sector bank, who was found guilty of raping a 33-year-old blind
>> widow repeatedly on the pretext of marriage.
>>
>> The court also imposed a penalty on convict Saurabh Kapoor, 35, who
>> was convicted of rape under Section 376 of the IPC.
>>
>> Additional Sessions Judge Rajni Yadav, while pronouncing the quantum
>> of sentence, said that given the inhumanity of the act, it was
>> required to impose upon the convict substantive and stern sentence
>> that would commensurate with the gravity of the offence and also serve
>> as an example to others.
>>
>> It is to be noted that since both the victim and the accused were
>> blind, the court had relied upon ‘voice identification’ that helped
>> the woman to identify Kapoor, a resident of Mayur Vihar in Delhi.
>>
>> On the pretext of meeting an advocate, Kapoor had taken the victim on
>> May 30, 2015, to a guest house in Gurgaon and raped her there for the
>> first time. He later continued to abuse her, promising marriage.
>>
>> The victim, who has an eight-year-old daughter, worked in a private
>> company in 2015, when the incident happened. She is currently
>> unemployed.
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