Re: [Alsa-user] Re: SB Live 5.1 on Dell Dimension ~ No sound

2005-12-27 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 00:00 +, Richard wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I have no sound at all (on the dual-booting WinXP+Linux machine the
  sound is fine in Windows incidentally) on my PC under Linux.
  I have a Dell P4 machine, fitted with a Creative Labs SB Live 5.1
  sound card, well, according to the order confirmation. There's also a
  Plantronics DSP-500 USB headset. I don't get sound through either
  though (ie headset or speakers connected to sound card at back of
  machine). The lack of sound is irrespective of whether the headset is
  plugged into the USB port, too.
 
 You are using the wrong driver. The Dell SBLive! is not a real SBLive!.
 You want to use snd-emu10k1x not snd-emu10k1.
 
 Lee.
 
 New: 
 Thanks Lee R., and others.
 
 System is as before; Debian etch system using udev, 
 fresh ALSA download v1.0.11rc1.
 
 I reached the point of inserting the modules into the kernel 
 via modprobe, 
 whilst attempting to install the correct Dell OEM 
 snd-emu10k1x driver as Alsa homepage [http://tinyurl.com/58b27]
 
 When I attempt to run the command, however, it returns errors. 
 Please advise. Should I ignore them and continue through
 the rest of the installation guide? Or, do something else? 
 The full text of the errors is appended to bottom this of e-mail.
 
 Thanks.
 
 - Richard.
 
 === ERRORS ===
 
 Errors when attempting kernel modules insertion 
 (modinfo soundcore per 1st part of install guide showed 
 soundcore module present):

It sounds like your ALSA modules were not compiled against the same
kernel version you are running, or you did not remove all snd-* modules
before trying to install the new ones.

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] KDE 3.5 based advanced Linux Desktop released

2005-12-27 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 16:22 +0100, Dexter Filmore wrote:
 Advertising ok here? 
 Evaluation? Sounds to me like another one trying to make a buck on the
 linux-for-the-masses hype.

If someone has actually made a Linux distro that Just Works for the
masses (no editing text config files to get wireless or web browsing or
cd burning or MP3 playing to work) then IMHO they can advertise all they
want.

Red Hat, SuSE, Ubuntu, and zillions of others have worked on this
problem for YEARS and we're still not there.

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] Assertion `snd_pcm_format_linear(slv-format)' failed

2005-12-29 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 11:36 +1000, Adam Nielsen wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 What does this error mean?
 
 aplay: pcm_plug.c:384: snd_pcm_plug_change_channels: Assertion 
 `snd_pcm_format_linear(slv-format)' failed.
 Aborted by signal Aborted...
 ALSA lib pcm_plug.c:68:(snd_pcm_plug_close) plug slaves mismatch
 
 Just when I think I'm about to solve my problem, I always seem to get
 this coming up - even using a configuration that worked with an old
 version of ALSA.
 
 Any ideas what it means?

What are you trying to do?

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] Assertion `snd_pcm_format_linear(slv-format)' failed

2005-12-29 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 12:04 +1000, Adam Nielsen wrote:
  What are you trying to do?
 
 I'm still trying to get stereo output when passing the sound through a
 LADSPA plugin (which in the latest version of ALSA converts any incoming
 stereo source into mono.)  My current idea is to create a multi-card
 device, with the two combined sound cards being both on the same
 physical card.  Then I can feed one card through LADSPA giving one
 mono signal, and the other card though LADSPA giving a second mono
 signal, and then I can hopefully route the two mono signals out the left
 and right speakers giving me a stereo signal that has passed through
 LADSPA.
 
 It just seems that if you connect things in a certain way (particularly
 with the ALSA ladspa plugin) I get all these weird assertion failures -
 so I was hoping that if I knew why they were happening it might help me
 figure out a way around them.

Well AFAICT that assert is saying that the slave of a route plugin can't
have a non-linear format.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Assertion `snd_pcm_format_linear(slv-format)' failed

2005-12-29 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 12:04 +1000, Adam Nielsen wrote:
  What are you trying to do?
 
 I'm still trying to get stereo output when passing the sound through a
 LADSPA plugin (which in the latest version of ALSA converts any incoming
 stereo source into mono.)  My current idea is to create a multi-card
 device, with the two combined sound cards being both on the same
 physical card.  Then I can feed one card through LADSPA giving one
 mono signal, and the other card though LADSPA giving a second mono
 signal, and then I can hopefully route the two mono signals out the left
 and right speakers giving me a stereo signal that has passed through
 LADSPA.

Wait, so you're just trying to work around a bug in the LADSPA plugin?
Why not just try to get that fixed?

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] Assertion `snd_pcm_format_linear(slv-format)' failed

2005-12-29 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 12:51 +1000, Adam Nielsen wrote:
  Wait, so you're just trying to work around a bug in the LADSPA plugin?
 
 Well, yes. *blushes*
 
  Why not just try to get that fixed?
 
 Primarily because I've got absolutely no idea where to start looking,
 and I was hoping that this would be a quicker solution.  Looks like
 perhaps it wasn't ;-)
 
 Maybe I should take a look at the source...only I fear it's going to
 take me rather a long time just to work out how it all fits together...

Can you explain what you are trying to accomplish starting from the
beginning?

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] Keeping multiple cards in sync (was: Assertion `snd_pcm_format_linear(slv-format)' failed)

2005-12-30 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 17:36 -0500, Ross Vandegrift wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 30, 2005 at 12:45:48PM +1000, Adam Nielsen wrote:
  I've always wondered about this.  Fair enough that two cards would play
  back sound at slightly different speeds, but why can't you just drop a
  sample or two every few milliseconds or so, to keep the sound roughly in
  sync?
 
 How do you know how much to slew the playback by?
 
 Say I have two sound cards in my box.  Each sound card has an
 independent crystal that generates a clock for timekeeping.  The
 crystals are rated to resonate at some fixed frequency, but there will
 always be a margain of error.  Even two identical parts from the
 same manufacturer will produce different errors in their clock.
 
 At first, the issue isn't a big deal, since the difference may be
 small.  But as time ticks by, many small differences begin to add up
 to bigger and bigger difference.  This type of error is called drift.
 
 In addition, a crystal is a physical process, and so occasionally
 there are abberant ticks.  This causes sudden loss of time tracking.
 This type of error is called jitter.
 
 The two together are a deadly combination.  You need some way of
 mitigating both to keep stuff in sync.  One way is to use some
 out-of-band data to slave one card to the other card's timesource.
 Lots of pro gear does this with word clock, spdif links, and the like.
 
 You can solve the problem for your PC's internal clock with NTP.
 Moreover, if you're interested in timekeeping issues like this, the
 NTP research papers are an amazing source of a huge amount of
 information on this kind of stuff.
 

LDAS (the low delay audio streamer) does something similar - it has to
compensate for the drift between two machines clocks' that exchange
audio over the network but you could apply the algorithm to two cards on
one box.  It uses the ALSA API and is believed to accomplish this with
the lowest achievable latency.

http://www.q2s.ntnu.no/~asbjs/ldas/ldas.html

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] Keeping multiple cards in sync (was: Assertion `snd_pcm_format_linear(slv-format)' failed)

2005-12-31 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2005-12-31 at 12:36 -0800, Bill Unruh wrote:
 But the problem is getting those ticks out. In particular, with the
 new timer chips on the newer chipsets, rtc works by polling, which is
 notoriously bad at accurate timing.  Even with interrupts, you cannot
 have them too often or your computer will not do much, and the timer
 interrupt could be delayed. Ie, your computer does a whole lot of
 stuff besides audio all of which can interfer with the
 timing. 

What RTC chipsets are you referring to that can't generate periodic
interrupts?



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Re: [Alsa-user] Vivanco 6C PCI and Midi?

2006-01-01 Thread Lee Revell
On Sun, 2006-01-01 at 18:01 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
 On Sunday 01 January 2006 13:12, Lorenz Hopfmüller wrote:
  On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 17:45:09 +0100
 
  Nigel Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Saturday 31 December 2005 16:30, Lorenz Hopfmüller wrote:
Hello folks,
I wonder if I can play/use MIDI with Vivanco 6C PCI without using
timidity. In the description they write about a
onboard-DSL-wavetable-synthesizer. Arent these wavetables for playing
Midi without a software synth?
   
# aplaymidi -l
 PortClient name  Port name
 64:0MPU-401 MIDI 0-0 MPU-401 MIDI 0-0
 65:0OPL3 FM synthOPL3 FM Port
 72:0Keycontr Keycontr MIDI 1
 80:0Virtual Raw MIDI 2-0 VirMIDI 2-0
 81:0Virtual Raw MIDI 2-1 VirMIDI 2-1
 82:0Virtual Raw MIDI 2-2 VirMIDI 2-2
 83:0Virtual Raw MIDI 2-3 VirMIDI 2-3
   
I can play on all ports, but I don't get a sound anywhere...
So I got my new MIDI-Keyboard(72:0), but I can't use it without 1/2 sec
delay because of timidity...
   
Would be nice if somebody could help me...
Thanks,
Lorenz Hopfmüller
   
My modules loaded:
# lsmod
Module  Size  Used by
snd_virmidi 3392  0
snd_seq_virmidi 5888  1 snd_virmidi
vmnet  34212  13
vmmon 105324  0
snd_seq_midi6688  0
snd_seq_midi_event  6016  2 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi
snd_opl3_synth 11012  0
snd_seq_instr   7680  1 snd_opl3_synth
snd_seq_midi_emul   6784  1 snd_opl3_synth
snd_ainstr_fm   2176  1 snd_opl3_synth
snd_seq47888  6
snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event,
snd_opl3_synth,snd_seq_instr,snd_seq_midi_emul
snd_usb_audio  72640  0
snd_usb_lib14208  1 snd_usb_audio
snd_cmipci 29056  0
snd_pcm78728  2 snd_usb_audio,snd_cmipci
snd_page_alloc  8200  1 snd_pcm
snd_opl3_lib8960  2 snd_opl3_synth,snd_cmipci
snd_timer  20996  3 snd_seq,snd_pcm,snd_opl3_lib
snd_hwdep   6688  2 snd_usb_audio,snd_opl3_lib
snd_mpu401_uart 6016  1 snd_cmipci
snd_rawmidi18944  4
snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi,snd_usb_lib,snd_mpu 401_uart
snd_seq_device  7180  5
snd_seq_midi,snd_opl3_synth,snd_seq,snd_opl3_lib ,snd_rawmidi
snd43576  14
snd_virmidi,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_instr,snd_s
eq,snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_lib,snd_cmipci,snd_pcm,snd_opl3_lib,snd_timer,
   snd_ hwdep ,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
rt2500170468  1
   
with alsa-driver 1.0.10-r1
  
   Hi Lorenz. It sounds like your card is like my Audigy2 soundblaster then.
   You will need to load a soundfont onto the card. If you have the cdrom
   for the card, the soundfont (.sf2) should be somewhere on it, and you'll
   need to copy it to your home directory. If you havn't got the cdrom, you
   can get GM (General Midi) soundfonts from, http://www.hammersound.net .
   To load the soundfont you will need the package awesfx which may or may
   not already be installed. Then on the CLI, run, sfxload
   path_to_soundfont_filename without the double quotes. If you cannot
   load soundfonts onto the card, you could always use Qsynth, which is the
   front end to fluidsynth, and load a soundfont into that.
   Incidentally. Which distro, and desktop are you using? If you're using
   KDE, I have a small script you can use to autoload the soundfont onto the
   card.
  
   Let us know how you get on. Nigel.
  
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  Hi,
  # sfxload Papelmedia_Trombone.sf2
  No AWE synth device is found
  # asfxload Papelmedia_Trombone.sf2
  No Emux synth hwdep device is found
  # lsmod
  Module  Size  Used by
  snd_rtctimer2448  0
  snd_seq_midi6688  0
  snd_pcm_oss47520  0
  snd_mixer_oss  16128  1 snd_pcm_oss
  snd_seq_oss30592  0
  snd_seq_midi_event  6016  2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_oss
  snd_seq47248  5 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
  snd_usb_audio  71744  0
  snd_usb_lib13952  1 snd_usb_audio
  snd_cmipci 28800  0
  snd_pcm79880  

Re: [Alsa-user] Vivanco 6C PCI and Midi?

2006-01-01 Thread Lee Revell
On Sun, 2006-01-01 at 20:44 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
 Secondly. Lorenzo has snd_cmipci listed as a driver, and I've just
 seen another post showing this driver in lsmod. I know I'm only still
 using Alsa 1.0.8 on FC2, but the drivers showing there are
 CMI8738-MC6 , CMI8738-MC8, and I think a couple of others. This is
 just an academic question, but where is this driver cmipci being
 found so as to show up on the lsmod list? 

Those are not the names of ALSA drivers, ALSA drivers have names like
snd-emu10k1 and snd-cmipci.  Where are you seeing those?

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] how do I start/create ALSA sequencer device ?

2006-01-01 Thread Lee Revell
On Sun, 2006-01-01 at 23:34 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
 Hello All,
 
 I am trying to run 'ams' - either stock Mandriva 10.2 version 1.8.5 or
 heavily patched by myself  version 1.8.7.
 
 In both cases I'm getting
 
 ALSA lib seq_hw.c:446:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such 
 file or directory
 Error opening ALSA sequencer.
 
 message.
 
 On the other hand, 'qjackconnect' shows  'alsa_pcm' as having 
 writeable/readable ports;
 alsaplayer's ports are also shown as readable.
 
 This whole setup (ALSA + 'qjackconnect' + 'ams' + 'alsaplayer') used to work 
 out of
 the box on Mandriva 10.0.
 
 ALSA and related libraries are stock Mandriva 10.2, their version is 1.0.8.
 
 I actually so not need the sequencer - I'm using 'ams' as LADSPA host, but 
 'ams'
 apparently needs it.
 
 I would appreciate suggestion/help.

Is snd-seq-midi loaded?  Do you use udev or a static /dev?  If using
udev did you restart udevd or reboot (should not actually be needed)?
If using a static /dev run the snddevices.sh script.

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] Device order vs. snd-usb-audio drivers in 1.0.10

2006-01-03 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 09:27 -0800, Eric Weaver wrote:
 Anybody know how to make it boot up and put the usb-audio devices in the 
 right order?

Um, what's the right order?  We are not psychic.

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] Device order vs. snd-usb-audio drivers in 1.0.10

2006-01-03 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 09:41 -0800, Eric Weaver wrote:
 Lee Revell wrote:
  On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 09:27 -0800, Eric Weaver wrote:
  
 Anybody know how to make it boot up and put the usb-audio devices in the 
 right order?
  
  
  Um, what's the right order?  We are not psychic.
 
 Fair enough.
 
 Well, if I put snd-card-3  snd-usb-audio and snd-card-4 
 snd-usb-audio in modules.conf, to have them come up as devices 3 and 4 
 instead of 0 and 1 as they seem to do on first boot-up.

I think you need to add options snd-card-3 index=3 and options
snd-card-4 index=4 or something.

This is an FAQ (possibly the #1 ALSA FAQ), you should be able to just
Google it.

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] snd-pcm1-oss

2006-01-04 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 16:57 +0100, Anthony Azzopardi wrote:
 Hello All,
 I'm running my ES1868 sound card with Alsa, but I cannot record with 
 krec, why? One more thing where can I get the snd-pcm1-oss module from?
 Regards,
 Anthony.

There is no such module as snd-pcm1-oss.  Only snd-pcm-oss.  Where did
you see that?

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] Mixer channel locking (Envy 24)

2006-01-04 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 01:05 +0200, Sakari Ailus wrote:
 Hi!
 
 I have an M-Audio Delta 44 sound card with Envy 24 chip. Unlike many
 other sound cards, this one has a bunch of separate channels in the
 mixer. Not any kind of master volume control which would control volume
 on all output channels. I'd rather use the card for playing stereo audio
 stream than mono...
 
 So I'm asking if it's possible to lock the output channels to each
 other. Or have something else which gets around the problem of having to
 tune output level for each channel separately.
 
 Regards,
 

Not currently possible.  This needs to be implemented in the mixer app
or alsa-lib.  The former is much easier and the latter more difficult
but also more correct.

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] Skype - problem with sound device - ?

2006-01-04 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 16:40 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
 I do two things:
 
 1) disable ALL alsa applications like 'ams', 'alsaplayer', etc., but do
 leave 'alsamixer' open;
 
 2) run Skype as
 
 aoss skype
 .

Skype really works with aoss for you?  We have seen TONS of reports that
it didn't and had assumed it was a bug in aoss.

What sound card are you using?

Lee




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Re: [Alsa-user] pcm vs pcm2 channel

2006-01-05 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 13:25 -0500, Paul Fox wrote:
 hi -- i understand that sometimes channels are mislabeled, and
 that pcm2 sometimes means headphones, or main, but
 assuming that that's not the case, does the presence of a pcm2
 channel imply that one could play two digital sources at once
 (e.g., two wav files) and have them mixed by the hardware?
 
 if so, what devices would one use?
 
 i run a whole-house audio system.  i have both music (duh.  :-)
 and also a home-automation menuing system.  currently, i run a
 nas server on top of the audio device, because it's capable of
 mixing inputs from various clients.  i use a NAS-enabled mpg123
 to play the music, and i use auplay to send the festival-generated
 voice data.  so my music can keep playing while i check my
 voicemail, for instance.  i'd like to eliminate the nas server
 (just to make things simpler) but i know of no other easy way to
 do pcm signal mixing.  (i'd also be happy with having one input
 override the other input -- i.e., the voice response menu system
 would have priority over music.)

You must be using an old version of ALSA.  With 1.0.9 and later this
should Just Work - if your hardware can't mix multiple channels then
alsa-lib will handle the mixing.

You have to make sure all your ALSA apps are using the default PCM.
Some buggy apps like XMMS default to hw:0,0 which has always been
wrong.

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] pcm vs pcm2 channel

2006-01-05 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 13:42 -0500, Paul Fox wrote:
channel imply that one could play two digital sources at once
(e.g., two wav files) and have them mixed by the hardware?

if so, what devices would one use?
  ...
voicemail, for instance.  i'd like to eliminate the nas server
(just to make things simpler) but i know of no other easy way to
do pcm signal mixing.  (i'd also be happy with having one input
override the other input -- i.e., the voice response menu system
would have priority over music.)
   
   You must be using an old version of ALSA.  With 1.0.9 and later this
   should Just Work - if your hardware can't mix multiple channels then
   alsa-lib will handle the mixing.
 
 doh.  okay, clearly i need to upgrade.  i'm running 1.0.1, but
 even if i were running something newer, it might not have occurred
 to me to try this.  i confess that once i get sound (or almost anything
 else, for that matter :-) working, i don't tend to touch it until i
 have to.
 
   
   You have to make sure all your ALSA apps are using the default PCM.
 
 what does this mean, exactly?  /dev/dsp?
 

/dev/dsp is the OSS emulation device.  I was referring to native ALSA.

   Some buggy apps like XMMS default to hw:0,0 which has always been
   wrong.
 
 am i to infer from this (and your mention of alsa-lib, above)
 that i can't do this from the shell?  i.e. can i simply cat two
 sound files to separate device nodes and have them mixed?  or do
 i have to use alsa-aware apps?
 
 thanks very much for helping me understand this...

You can't cat files to /dev/dsp and have them be mixed (but cat file.wav
 /dev/dsp was never a good interface anyway) as the in-kernel OSS
emulation does not do software mixing.  But you can just aplay
file.wav from two different terminals and they will be mixed.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Alsa problems

2006-01-05 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 22:14 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
 Hi guys,
 this is my first post in this mailing list. I've got a problem using 
 ALSA: I've installed tho sources following the documentation 
 step-by-step. That's OK, but when I try to run aplay here's what happen:
 

What documentation were you reading that said to create an .asoundrc
file?  It's wrong.

Anyway try a newer ALSA version, 1.0.9 is very old.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Alsa problems

2006-01-05 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 23:54 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
 Lee Revell ha scritto:
 
 On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 23:32 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
   
 
 Lee Revell ha scritto:
 
 
 
 On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 22:14 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
  
 
   
 
 Hi guys,
 this is my first post in this mailing list. I've got a problem using 
 ALSA: I've installed tho sources following the documentation 
 step-by-step. That's OK, but when I try to run aplay here's what happen:
 

 
 
 
 What documentation were you reading that said to create an .asoundrc
 file?  It's wrong.
 
 Anyway try a newer ALSA version, 1.0.9 is very old.
 
 Lee
  
 
   
 
 It's the latest version! The site I downloaded the drivers from is:
 
 
 
 
 The latest development version on that site is 1.0.11-rc2 and the latest
 stable version is 1.0.10.  You are currently using 1.0.9:
 
 - Sound Driver: 3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.9 emulation code)
 
 Try 1.0.11-rc2.
 
 Lee
 
 
   
 
 I cannot find that version. Could you post me an URL, please? I 
 downloaded it from:
 
 ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/

ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.11rc2.tar.bz2

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Re: [Alsa-user] Alsa problems

2006-01-05 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 00:01 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
 Lee Revell ha scritto:
 
 On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 23:54 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
   
 
 Lee Revell ha scritto:
 
 
 
 On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 23:32 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
  
 
   
 
 Lee Revell ha scritto:
 

 
 
 
 On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 22:14 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
 
 
  
 
   
 
 Hi guys,
 this is my first post in this mailing list. I've got a problem using 
 ALSA: I've installed tho sources following the documentation 
 step-by-step. That's OK, but when I try to run aplay here's what happen:
 
   
 

 
 
 
 What documentation were you reading that said to create an .asoundrc
 file?  It's wrong.
 
 Anyway try a newer ALSA version, 1.0.9 is very old.
 
 Lee
 
 
  
 
   
 
 It's the latest version! The site I downloaded the drivers from is:
 

 
 
 
 The latest development version on that site is 1.0.11-rc2 and the latest
 stable version is 1.0.10.  You are currently using 1.0.9:
 
 - Sound Driver: 3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.9 emulation code)
 
 Try 1.0.11-rc2.
 
 Lee
 
 
  
 
   
 
 I cannot find that version. Could you post me an URL, please? I 
 downloaded it from:
 
 ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/
 
 
 
 ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.11rc2.tar.bz2
 
 Lee
 
 
   
 
 Ok, I'll try. And what about the .asoundrc file? You said it isn't 
 correct, is it? Could you post me a correct file? Thanx
 

You don't need one at all.  The docs on that page are out of date.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Alsa problems

2006-01-05 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 23:32 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
 Lee Revell ha scritto:
 
 On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 22:14 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
   
 
 Hi guys,
 this is my first post in this mailing list. I've got a problem using 
 ALSA: I've installed tho sources following the documentation 
 step-by-step. That's OK, but when I try to run aplay here's what happen:
 
 
 
 
 What documentation were you reading that said to create an .asoundrc
 file?  It's wrong.
 
 Anyway try a newer ALSA version, 1.0.9 is very old.
 
 Lee
   
 
 It's the latest version! The site I downloaded the drivers from is:
 

The latest development version on that site is 1.0.11-rc2 and the latest
stable version is 1.0.10.  You are currently using 1.0.9:

- Sound Driver: 3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.9 emulation code)

Try 1.0.11-rc2.

Lee




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Re: [Alsa-user] Alsa problems

2006-01-05 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 00:21 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
 I've got this error:
 
 # modprobe snd-intel8x0
 WARNING: Error inserting snd_pcm 
 (/lib/modules/2.6.10/kernel/sound/acore/snd-pcm.ko): Unknown symbol
 in 
 module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
 WARNING: Error inserting snd_ac97_codec 
 (/lib/modules/2.6.10/kernel/sound/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.ko):
 Unknown 
 symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
 FATAL: Error inserting snd_intel8x0 
 (/lib/modules/2.6.10/kernel/sound/pci/snd-intel8x0.ko): Unknown
 symbol 
 in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
 

This means you compiled ALSA against the wrong kernel version or did not
unload all the old ALSA modules before reloading them.  Try just
rebooting.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Alsa problems

2006-01-05 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 01:15 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
 So, how end users are supposed to learn about ALSA ?
 
 If something exists for general public, but general public
 has no way of knowing it, what's the use of that potentially
 useful thing ?
 
 Maybe ALSA project site should contain clearly visible
 
 Ignore the documentation, ask alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net first
 
 warning on the main page ?

Or just fix the documentation.

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Re: [Alsa-user] porting my old oss app to alsa how?

2006-01-05 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 18:56 -0900, Britton Kerin wrote:
 Is it a problem to have a high priority pair of userspace threads
 handling a 
 ring buffer which then gets filled or drained using snd_pcm_writei
 with
 a pcm
 opened in blocking mode, or will the competing userspace threads cause
 problems?

Nope, that sounds like a good implementation, just use mutexes to
protect the shared data.

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Re: [Alsa-user] snd-pcm1-oss

2006-01-06 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 15:04 +0100, Anthony Azzopardi wrote:
 
 http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=ESS
 +Technologycard=.chip=ES18xxmodule=es18xx
 
 Anthony 

That's a typo.  It should just say snd-pcm-oss.  I'll look into fixing
it.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Alsa problems

2006-01-06 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 13:14 +, James Courtier-Dutton wrote:
 Lee Revell wrote:
 
 Ok, I'll try. And what about the .asoundrc file? You said it isn't 
 correct, is it? Could you post me a correct file? Thanx
 
 
 
 
 You don't need one at all.  The docs on that page are out of date.
 
 Lee
   
 
 Which docs are you refering to. If they are on the ALSA web site, I can 
 fix them.
 Just tell me what to fix.
 

This one is wrong too:

http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=ESS
+Technologycard=.chip=ES18xxmodule=es18xx

It refers to snd-pcm1-oss which does not exist.  And, like all the pages
it tells the user to create an .asoundrc for no good reason.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Alsa problems

2006-01-06 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 16:35 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
 I think this document was meant to be fixed
 
 http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Intelcard=ICH+southbridge+AC97+audio.chip=440MX%2C+i810%2C+i810E%2C+i820%2C+ICH4%2C+ICH5%2C+ICH6module=intel8x0
 .
 

Anything that tells users to set up an .asoundrc to have dmix work.

IMHO you should also delete all the old user comments as they are rife
with outdated advice and downright misinformation.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Alsa problems

2006-01-06 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 20:42 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
 Lee, the note should be To James and CC to me - I mean, it was James
 who suggested he would update the document, I only tried to help
 looking for the link in earlier posts.
 

I always use Reply to All so I don't pay attention to To: vs. CC.

 On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:28:13 -0500
 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 16:35 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
   I think this document was meant to be fixed
   
   http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Intelcard=ICH+southbridge+AC97+audio.chip=440MX%2C+i810%2C+i810E%2C+i820%2C+ICH4%2C+ICH5%2C+ICH6module=intel8x0
   .
   
  
  Anything that tells users to set up an .asoundrc to have dmix work.
  
  IMHO you should also delete all the old user comments as they are rife
  with outdated advice and downright misinformation.
  
  Lee
  
 



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Re: [Alsa-user] 2 card question

2006-01-07 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2006-01-07 at 04:26 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
 Greetings;
 
 1st card is an ac97 compat nvidia in an nforce2, onboard
 2nd card is an SBLive/Audigy 24 bit, aka a snd_ca0106, just installed.  
 Modules are built and loaded.
 
 Alsa is amixer -v=1.0.4, kernel is 2.6.15.  Install is heavily hacked 
 FC2 with all updates that apply.
 

What version is alsa-lib?  You probably need to upgrade as the CA0106
didn't exist when ALSA 1.0.4 was released, and each ALSA driver requires
a userspace and kernel component.

Lee

 Kmix from kde-3.3.0 doesn't show anything in the input tab screen when 
 the SBLive is selected.  The output screen is normally populated.
 
 System sounds, such as the splash when there is incoming mail have gone 
 mute, presumably because they are now being routed to the SBLive which 
 ATM has no speakers connected.
 
 The intention is to use the onboard ac97 getup for Skype, and the 
 SBLive/Audigy 24 bitter for everything else.
 
 Where can I find suitable docs to tell me howto do this?
 
 Or is there a gui of sorts to do all this included with alsa-1.0.4 that 
 I don't know about?
 



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Re: [Alsa-user] 2 card question

2006-01-07 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2006-01-07 at 12:16 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Saturday 07 January 2006 04:39, Lee Revell wrote:
 On Sat, 2006-01-07 at 04:26 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
  Greetings;
 
  1st card is an ac97 compat nvidia in an nforce2, onboard
  2nd card is an SBLive/Audigy 24 bit, aka a snd_ca0106, just
  installed. Modules are built and loaded.
 
  Alsa is amixer -v=1.0.4, kernel is 2.6.15.  Install is heavily
  hacked FC2 with all updates that apply.
 
 What version is alsa-lib?  You probably need to upgrade as the CA0106
 didn't exist when ALSA 1.0.4 was released, and each ALSA driver
  requires a userspace and kernel component.
 
 According to the dirname in /usr/src/alsa, its 1.0.4.  But according to 
 yumi, its 1.0.3-2 or thereabouts, rather jurassic. :)
 
 So went looking to see if there may have been a one piece download of 
 later stuff, but that appears to not be available in a packaged tar.bz2 
 format.  I found some things which may be daily snapshots of the cvs, 
 but the latest of those didn't unpack to something that looked as if it 
 had configure scripts in it, certainly not a one step overall builder.

Just do:

cvs co .
./build prep
./build all

etc

Don't bother with checking out alsa-kernel, alsa-driver, etc separately.

Also isn't there an updated alsa-lib package for FC2?  It seems like
they would maintain one in their updates tree.  It's needed to support
newer hardware.

Have you considered upgrading to FC4 which supports your hardware OOTB?

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Re: [Alsa-user] 2 card question

2006-01-07 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2006-01-07 at 13:19 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Saturday 07 January 2006 04:39, Lee Revell wrote:
 
 This is a double send Lee, sorry.

OK.  I did get the first message, try my suggestion from that.

Also please provide the link to the CVS instructions you used - we are
trying to fix all the old ALSA docs that are no longer accurate.

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Re: [Alsa-user] 2 card question

2006-01-07 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2006-01-07 at 04:39 -0500, Lee Revell wrote:
 On Sat, 2006-01-07 at 04:26 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
  Greetings;
  
  1st card is an ac97 compat nvidia in an nforce2, onboard
  2nd card is an SBLive/Audigy 24 bit, aka a snd_ca0106, just installed.  
  Modules are built and loaded.
  
  Alsa is amixer -v=1.0.4, kernel is 2.6.15.  Install is heavily hacked 
  FC2 with all updates that apply.
  
 
 What version is alsa-lib?  You probably need to upgrade as the CA0106
 didn't exist when ALSA 1.0.4 was released, and each ALSA driver requires
 a userspace and kernel component.
 

Personally I recommend to avoid the CA0106 devices - it's vastly
inferior to the old EMU10K1 and EMU10K2 devices which had hardware
mixing and DSP, and only a few dollars cheaper.  The CA0106 devices are
to a real SBLive! what a Winmodem is to a hardware modem.

It might be easier to exchange it for an Audigy2 Value...

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] alsa problems

2006-01-08 Thread Lee Revell
On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 15:17 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
 It doesn't work anyway! It says could not open control for card 1,
 but my card is card 0. How can I set card 0 as default card?
 Any suggestions? I post my /etc/modules.conf file: 

This is a real head scratcher, I don't know what's going on.  Anyone?

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] input/output latency

2006-01-09 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 17:37 +0100, Alexander Carôt wrote:
 Hi to all,
 
 again one question regarding latency :
 
 If my soundcard is configured with 48 kHz, 256 Samples/frame it blocks for
 2,6 ms.
 
 Are these 2,6 ms valid for input AND output - thus does it take 2,6 ms for
 capturing + 2,6ms for playing back the signal (= 5,2 ms total delay) ?
 
 Thanks in advance

Yes, that's how it works.  There could be up to one period between the
capture and playback interrupts, so your input to output latency is
anywhere from 5.2ms to 7.8ms.  Plus the soundcard ADCs may add up to 1ms
of latency, so if you measured it with a scope it could be as high as
10ms.

If you can get it to work at 128 frames you'll be in good shape, but
that pushes the limits of what the standard kernel can keep up with.

Lee



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[Alsa-user] Re: soundblaster pnp ide won't pnp

2006-01-10 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 19:16 -0600, Fredrick O Jackson wrote:
 ok, so far Ive tried with and without isapnp support in the kernel, I've 
 toggled the PNP OS, and ACPI switches in the bios, I've tried compiling the 
 drivers into the kernel (hd, ide, ide-disk, isapnp, ide-pnp, and others) on 
 2.6.14, 2.6.15 and 2.4.27. I've used kernel command lines. I usually get 
 messages similar to that below (at the bottom). I also cannot find the 
 modules ide, ide-probe, or ide-detect which are documented in the 
 Documentation directory.
 
 what method is recommended and what kernel would you suggest?
 

 Jan 10 12:42:41 pthree kernel: ide: failed opcode was: unknown
 Jan 10 12:42:41 pthree kernel: ide2: reset: success
 Jan 10 12:43:11 pthree kernel: hde: irq timeout: status=0x50 { DriveReady 
 SeekComplete }
 

You don't say whether you are trying to use the ALSA or OSS driver.  And
your dmesg has no mention at all of a sound card, it just shows that hde
is failing.

First, if you were trying to load the OSS driver, try the ALSA driver,
and post the output of dmesg when loading snd-sb16 and the output of
cat /proc/asound/cards.

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] SB Audigy 2 Value

2006-01-10 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 22:05 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
 Greetings all;
 
 I just got back from civilisation, if you can call Clarksburg WV 
 civilized, with an SB Audigy 2 Value card.
 
 IIRC this is the card recommmended.  And according to a quick make 
 xconfig in the 2.6.15 tree, it still uses the emu10k1 driver.  I find 
 that a bit worrying as the top of the chip on it says CA0108.
 
 I hope I don't find any surprises when I shutdown, change it and reboot.
 
 Comments anybody?
 

Should work great, with the emu10k1 driver, and will give you hardware
mixing and all the other goodies that Creative removed from their newer
devices.  AC3 passthrough used to be broken, maybe this has been fixed
by now.

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Re: [Alsa-user] start emi26

2006-01-10 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 03:49 +, krgn wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I want to set up a emi26 (again :-)) atm and got to realise its a bit
 tricky..

Sounds like you might be getting bit by this bug:

https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=1585

USB audio has been broken since 2.6.14 and is still not fixed.

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Re: [Alsa-user] SB Audigy 2 Value

2006-01-10 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 23:47 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Tuesday 10 January 2006 22:09, Lee Revell wrote:
 On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 22:05 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
  Greetings all;
 
  I just got back from civilisation, if you can call Clarksburg WV
  civilized, with an SB Audigy 2 Value card.
 
  IIRC this is the card recommmended.  And according to a quick make
  xconfig in the 2.6.15 tree, it still uses the emu10k1 driver.  I
  find that a bit worrying as the top of the chip on it says CA0108.
 
  I hope I don't find any surprises when I shutdown, change it and
  reboot.
 
  Comments anybody?
 
 Should work great, with the emu10k1 driver, and will give you hardware
 mixing and all the other goodies that Creative removed from their
  newer devices.  AC3 passthrough used to be broken, maybe this has
  been fixed by now.
 
 Lee
 
 Another bit of info, a cat of /proc/asound/cards:

What exactly is the problem?  What do you expect it to do that it's not
doing?

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] break of installation

2006-01-11 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 19:04 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Hello
 
 alsa-utils-1.0.9a
 'make install'
 
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/alsa-utils-1.0.9a/alsactl'
 Making install in alsaconf
 make[1]: Entering directory `/root/alsa-utils-1.0.9a/alsaconf'
 Making install in po
 make[2]: Entering directory `/root/alsa-utils-1.0.9a/alsaconf/po'
 mv: cannot stat `t-ja.gmo': No such file or directory
 make[2]: *** [ja.gmo] Error 1
 make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/alsa-utils-1.0.9a/alsaconf/po'
 make[1]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/alsa-utils-1.0.9a/alsaconf'
 make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
 
 How can I go on?

Why would you install such an old version?  Try 1.0.10 at least.

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Re: [Alsa-user] AC3 Passthru on YMF744 (fortissimo)

2006-01-11 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 14:30 -0500, Dave wrote:
 I have not been able to successfully get AC3 passthru to work on this 
 card, Yamaha YMF744 driver, I cant find out directly if its simply not 
 supported or if Im doing something wrong, I can get PCM sound out the 
 optical port without issue.  No matter what I try, AC3 Will not pass thru.
 
 Alsa 1.0.11-rc2
 Kernel 2.6.15

It certainly looks like it should work... this is the ymfpci driver
right?

If you run iecset audio off first does it work?

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Re: [Alsa-user] Dolby Digital Live?

2006-01-11 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 23:52 -0500, hondaman wrote:
 I have a Bluegears Mystique 7.1 DDL card which, as the name implies,
 does dobly digital live. How do I enable that in linux? I know how to
 do s/pdif passthrough, but I prefer the card to do the encoding.  The
 card is cmedia based:

These cards that claim to have a hardware AC3 or DTS or whatever encoder
do not really have one.  It is implemented in software by the Windows
driver.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Dolby Digital Live?

2006-01-11 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 23:52 -0500, hondaman wrote:
 Bluegears Mystique 7.1 DDL

It's impossible to tell from the site whether the encoding is done by
the hardware or the Windows driver.  Either way, the ALSA driver does
not support it, and we don't have the hardware specs that would be
needed.

You could ask the vendor about Linux support.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Alsa doesn't work!!!

2006-01-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 18:43 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
 Hi guys,
 my Alsa system doesn't work! Here's what happens if I try to play a 
 sound file with aplay:
 
 $ aplay test.wav
 ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:852:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
 aplay: main:547: audio open error: No such file or directory

Try strace aplay test.wav and post the output.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Alsa doesn't work!!!

2006-01-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 19:16 +0100, Rene Herman wrote:
 kunt1z wrote:
 
  my Alsa system doesn't work! Here's what happens if I try to play a 
  sound file with aplay:
  
  $ aplay test.wav
  ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:852:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
  aplay: main:547: audio open error: No such file or directory
 
 Driver simply not loaded?
 
  I try to modify my /etc/modules.conf file, but the result is the same 
  (it does not work!). Here's the Alsa section of my /etc/modules.conf file:
 
 [ snip ]
 
  - Kernel 2.6.10
 
 Please note that modules.conf is the file used by the old, 2.4-, version 
 of the module tools. For 2.6, the new tools use /etc/modprobe.conf.

Not quite, my system has no /etc/modprobe.conf - it has
an /etc/modprobe.d directory with a bunch of files in it.

Every distro seems to do this slightly differently, for no good reason.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Alsa doesn't work!!!

2006-01-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 19:20 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
 Lee Revell ha scritto:
 
 On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 18:43 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
   
 
 Hi guys,
 my Alsa system doesn't work! Here's what happens if I try to play a 
 sound file with aplay:
 
 $ aplay test.wav
 ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:852:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
 aplay: main:547: audio open error: No such file or directory
 
 
 
 Try strace aplay test.wav and post the output.
 
 Lee
 
   
 
 Here it is:
 
 $ strace aplay test.wav

Is this a really old distro?

If you are not using udev, did you run the snddevices.sh script that
comes with ALSA?

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Re: [Alsa-user] Alsa doesn't work!!!

2006-01-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 19:28 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
 Lee Revell ha scritto:
 
 On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 19:20 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
   
 
 Lee Revell ha scritto:
 
 
 
 On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 18:43 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
  
 
   
 
 Hi guys,
 my Alsa system doesn't work! Here's what happens if I try to play a 
 sound file with aplay:
 
 $ aplay test.wav
 ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:852:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
 aplay: main:547: audio open error: No such file or directory

 
 
 
 Try strace aplay test.wav and post the output.
 
 Lee
 
  
 
   
 
 Here it is:
 
 $ strace aplay test.wav
 
 
 
 Is this a really old distro?
 
 If you are not using udev, did you run the snddevices.sh script that
 comes with ALSA?
 
 Lee
   
 
 I don't think it's a really old distro. I'm not using udev, I'm using 
 hotplug, and I didn't run the snddevices.sh script. Should I do it?
 

Yeah, can't hurt.

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] Two little problems

2006-01-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 20:03 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
 Ok, now that Alsa works greatly here's two little problems for you 
 (sorry, I don't want to abuse this mailing list...):
 
 1) I cannot hear sound in web pages (e.g.: I open an internet location 
 with FireFox, in the main page there's a sound and I cannot hear it)

Are you referring to a YTMND site by any chance? ;-)

Last time I checked Linux does not support these correctly - the sound
does not play in Firefox.

 2) Midi doesn't work (the device I use isMidi Through  Midi Through 
 Port-0 - ALSA device, the one in Hardware tab in the Sound System 
 part of KDE Control Center)
 

What do you expect it to do?  It won't just play .mid files OOTB like on
Windows.  Either get a soft synth like Timidity, or load the
snd-emu10k1-synth module then load a soundfont using asfxload.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Two little problems

2006-01-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 20:12 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
 Not true, because if I turn off aRts daemon I'm able to hear sounds
 in 
 web pages.
 

Sounds like artsd is blocking /dev/dsp, which Firefox also wants to use.
Can you configure artsd to use ALSA rather than OSS?

Are you referring to sounds played by the browser or Flash applets?  If
Flash is the problem, configure your browser to run the Flash plugin
with the aoss wrapper.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Two little problems

2006-01-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 20:23 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
 I mean Flash applets. How can I configure my browser the way you told me?
 

Sorry, I'm not sure where you would change this - I use a soundcard with
hardware mixing so it's not needed on my system.  Maybe you can Google
for it or someone else on the list can answer.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Two little problems

2006-01-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 20:12 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
 Lee Revell ha scritto:
 
 On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 20:03 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
   
 
 Ok, now that Alsa works greatly here's two little problems for you 
 (sorry, I don't want to abuse this mailing list...):
 
 1) I cannot hear sound in web pages (e.g.: I open an internet
 location 
 with FireFox, in the main page there's a sound and I cannot hear it)
 
 
 
 Are you referring to a YTMND site by any chance? ;-)
   
 
 ??? 

http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=ytmndbtnG=Google+Search



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Re: [Alsa-user] alsa-problem

2006-01-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 20:31 +0100, Takashi Iwai wrote:
 At Mon, 09 Jan 2006 12:24:21 +,
 James Courtier-Dutton wrote:
  
  kunt1z wrote:
  
   Something happens...
   I run alsaconf, a script that modify /etc/modules.conf file, then I 
   restart /etc/init.d/alsasound service and I try to play a sound with 
   aplay. Here's what happens:
  
   $ aplay test.wav
   ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:852:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
   aplay: main:547: audio open error: No such file or directory
  
   What does it mean unable to open slave? And why it says no such 
   file or directory? Which file? The test.wav has correct path.
   I try to run as root speaker-test, the result is similar:
  
  I agree. We should at least have alsa-lib report the filename it was 
  trying to open.
 
 You can see it when you set the environment variable
 LIBASOUND_DEBUG=2.  See alsa-lib/NOTES for details.

That's disabled by default, you have to build alsa-lib with
--with-debug=yes for it to work.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Two little problems

2006-01-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 21:54 +0100, Takashi Iwai wrote:
 flush player 

Bwahahahahha, that's a good one.  I wish we could flush the damn thing.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Midi

2006-01-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 22:13 +0100, kunt1z wrote:
 Hey guys I found a complete howto about midi with alsa on linux, I hope 
 will help newbie like me:
 
 http://www.tldp.org/linuxfocus/English/September2002/article259.shtml
 
 Could anyone tell me why I'm not able to load the soundfont:
 
 # asfxload
 No Emux synth hwdep device is found
 
 I search with Google and I found that this message means that my card 
 hasn't an hardware synthetizer, but I think it has. Is it possible?

If this is the same machine with the snd-intel8x0 driver, no, it does
not have a hardware wavetable synth.  If it does, it's not supported by
ALSA for lack of documentation.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Two little problems

2006-01-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 13:24 -0800, Bill Unruh wrote:
  $aoss firefox
 
 Thanks. That should be useful for others as well. Is another possibility to
 somehow have the plugin go through aoss when it plugs itself in?
 

I don't think this is possible because aoss uses an LD_PRELOAD hack and
that can only be done at startup when all shared libraries are loaded.
There's an open feature request for Firefox to run plugins in a separate
process, the main advantage of which is that you can prevent them from
sucking 100% of your CPU, it would also allow this.

Since we have many reports that aoss works well with Flash, I think the
best solution is to ask the distros which use ALSA by default (all of
them now I think) to make /usr/bin/firefox or whatever a wrapper around
aoss firefox.

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Re: Re[2]: [Alsa-user] Alsa problems

2006-01-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 07:06 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
 The logical idea is that the one who wrote a piece of code also
 maintains documentation for it.

The documentation for the code is already maintained.  Maintaining the
web site is a different issue.

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] Epia SP1300 (VIA 8237 with VIA1617A) 5.1 from jacks

2006-01-15 Thread Lee Revell
On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 18:11 +, Ron Simpkin wrote:
 Hi
 
 I've been trying for days now to get this to work, but it seems that no 
 matter 
 what I try I only get sound from the front L/R speakers.
 
 I can mix the other channels into the front L/R using .asoundrc but this 
 isn't 
 what I want.
 
 Has anyone had any luck with this?

How are you testing it?

Does speaker-test -D surround51 -c 6 produce sound in all channels?

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Re: [Alsa-user] Epia SP1300 (VIA 8237 with VIA1617A) 5.1 from jacks

2006-01-15 Thread Lee Revell
On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 18:58 +, Ron Simpkin wrote:
 On Sunday 15 January 2006 18:32, Lee Revell wrote:
 
  How are you testing it?
 
  Does speaker-test -D surround51 -c 6 produce sound in all channels?
 
  Lee
 
 Yes that's the exact command line I'm using and it only produces sound from 
 the front L/R speakers.

File a bug report, sounds like a driver problem.

https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/main_page.php

Make sure to include ALSA (lib and driver) and kernel version and
whether this ever worked with any previous version.

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Re: [Alsa-user] S/PDIF Input with VIA8237 / RealtecALC658

2006-01-15 Thread Lee Revell
On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 20:59 +0100, Franz Schenk wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I want to use the S/PDIF input-connector on my Abit AV8. The chipset in use 
 is an VIA 8237, the codec is Realtek ALC658. I use a 2.6.15 kernel with 
 alsa-support compiled in plus debian-packages alsa-base and alsa-utils 
 version 1.0.10-1.
 
 I've done some research on the web, mainly in the alsa-archives. But most of 
 the information is concerned with how to setup S/PDIF output. The most 
 specific document from the alsa-project seems to be this one: 
 http://alsa.opensrc.org/via8233. But wrt sound signals via s/pdif-in there is 
 no useful information.
 
 Maybe any of you has managed to setup s/pdif-in properly on the same board or 
 with a similar configuration? I have no idea which settings in the .asoundrc 
 would be appropriate, so any hints are greatly welcome!
 
 Thanks a lot in advance for any help!

No setting up should be required, it should just work.

Please describe the exact nature of the problem.

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] Sound Blaster Audigy LS support

2006-01-16 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 12:52 -0500, Reuben D. Budiardja wrote:
 Hello,
 I am trying to determine what kind of support that ALSA has on Sound Blaster 
 Audigy LS. I tried to search the chipset of the card but couldn't find any 
 info on it. Here's the one I am looking at:
 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1532756CatId=0
 
 I particularly want to know if MIDI capture is supported, and also hardware 
 mixing. 
 Otherwise, I am wondering if anyone can give me suggestion of sound card to 
 buy with the following requirement:
 1. Support for MIDI (I want to hook up my MIDI keyboard to it and be able to 
 capture the MIDI with some sort of sequencer program to print the music)
 2. Support for hardware mixing (if I understand correctly, this means I can 
 play more than one source at once)
 3. Not too expensive, maybe about $50 or less.

I have no idea about MIDI but the Audigy LS does not support hardware
mixing.  Audigy 2 based devices like the Audigy 2 Value do support
hardware mixing though.

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] Sound Blaster Audigy LS support

2006-01-16 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 14:07 -0500, Reuben D. Budiardja wrote:
 On Monday 16 January 2006 13:18, Lee Revell wrote:
  On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 12:52 -0500, Reuben D. Budiardja wrote:
   Hello,
   I am trying to determine what kind of support that ALSA has on Sound
   Blaster Audigy LS. snip
 
  I have no idea about MIDI but the Audigy LS does not support hardware
  mixing.  
 
 Please excuse my ignorant. But is there such thing as software mixing ? 
 Basically, what I want is for the soundcard to be used by more than one 
 source. For example, I want to be able to run ogg123 song1.ogg on a shell 
 instance, and run ogg123 song2.ogg on another shell and have both song 
 played. I am not sure if that what hardware mixing really means.

Yes, ALSA supports software mixing for cards that can't do it in
hardware.

But, why would you want to buy crippled Win-Hardware that makes the CPU
do more work, if you have a choice?

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] Ice1712 FC4 Kernel upgrade - dmix not working

2006-01-16 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 21:38 -0500, Rich Rosa wrote:
 Greetings All, 
 
 I have read the prior postings about this problem. 
 
 I am running FC4 with kernel 2.6.14-1.1656_FC4.  I recently upgraded
 ALSA to 1.0.10rc3. 
 
 Since the upgrade I have lost all ability to use dmix. I am seeing
 strange errors like:
 
 ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:815:(snd_pcm_direct_initialize_slave) requested
 or auto-format is not available
 ALSA lib pcm_dshare.c:693:(snd_pcm_dshare_open) unable to initialize
 slave
 ALSA snd_pcm_open error: Invalid argument
 
 I saw the posting for a patch to ICE1712.conf and applied that and
 still get errors. I'm oping that someone can shed some light on this
 problem. My ultimate aim is to get 3 stereo channels feeing my home
 audio system different music using an Delta 1010LT. I will appeciate
 any help and confirguration file examples that you have. 

If you have an .asoundrc remove it.  Also make sure alsa-lib and
alsa-driver are the same version.

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] Ice1712 FC4 Kernel upgrade - dmix not working

2006-01-16 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 21:59 -0500, Rich Rosa wrote:
 Thank you Lee for the quick response. 
 
 I am running 
 alsa-lib-1.0.10-26.rhfc4.at
 alsa-driver-1.0.10-43.rhfc4.at 
 
 I am at slightly differnt patch levels. Should that matter?
 
 

That should be fine.

 
 On 1/16/06, Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 21:38 -0500, Rich Rosa wrote:
  Greetings All, 
 
  I have read the prior postings about this problem.
 
  I am running FC4 with kernel 2.6.14-1.1656_FC4.  I recently
 upgraded
  ALSA to 1.0.10rc3.
 
  Since the upgrade I have lost all ability to use dmix. I am
 seeing 
  strange errors like:
 
  ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:815:(snd_pcm_direct_initialize_slave)
 requested
  or auto-format is not available
  ALSA lib pcm_dshare.c:693:(snd_pcm_dshare_open) unable to
 initialize 
  slave
  ALSA snd_pcm_open error: Invalid argument
 
  I saw the posting for a patch to ICE1712.conf and applied
 that and
  still get errors. I'm oping that someone can shed some light
 on this 
  problem. My ultimate aim is to get 3 stereo channels feeing
 my home
  audio system different music using an Delta 1010LT. I will
 appeciate
  any help and confirguration file examples that you have.
 
 If you have an .asoundrc remove it.  Also make sure alsa-lib
 and
 alsa-driver are the same version.
 
 Lee
 
 



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Re: [Alsa-user] Ice1712 FC4 Kernel upgrade - dmix not working

2006-01-16 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 05:03 +0200, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
 On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:45:59 -0500
 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Also make sure alsa-lib and
  alsa-driver are the same version.
 
 Can't you developers implement a cross version checking and issue
 a HUGE warning in case versions do not match ?
 
 It's really sad to read this (though useful) advice over and over
 again.
 
 I'd rather make it even more strict - the whole ALSA thing should
 reject working in case versions do not match, and there should be
 command line switches/run time configuration options (something
 like ignore_versions_mismatch) allowing for experimental purposes
 running potentially incompatible versions.
 

Actually, I don't think that is the problem here.

But you have a point, and yes, this is planned.

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] break of installation

2006-01-17 Thread Lee Revell
This has been reported before but I don't remember the solution, maybe
someone on the list can answer...

Lee

On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 17:24 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Zitat von Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 19:04 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  Hello
 
  alsa-utils-1.0.9a
  'make install'
 
  make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/alsa-utils-1.0.9a/alsactl'
  Making install in alsaconf
  make[1]: Entering directory `/root/alsa-utils-1.0.9a/alsaconf'
  Making install in po
  make[2]: Entering directory `/root/alsa-utils-1.0.9a/alsaconf/po'
  mv: cannot stat `t-ja.gmo': No such file or directory
  make[2]: *** [ja.gmo] Error 1
  make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/alsa-utils-1.0.9a/alsaconf/po'
  make[1]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
  make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/alsa-utils-1.0.9a/alsaconf'
  make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
 
  How can I go on?
 
  Why would you install such an old version?  Try 1.0.10 at least.
 
  Lee
 
 alsa-utils-1.0.10
 
 /bin/sh ../mkinstalldirs /usr/sbin
   /usr/bin/install -c alsactl /usr/sbin/alsactl
 /bin/sh ../mkinstalldirs /usr/man/man1
 /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 ./alsactl.1 /usr/man/man1/alsactl.1
 make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/alsa-utils-1.0.10/alsactl'
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/alsa-utils-1.0.10/alsactl'
 Making install in alsaconf
 make[1]: Entering directory `/root/alsa-utils-1.0.10/alsaconf'
 Making install in po
 make[2]: Entering directory `/root/alsa-utils-1.0.10/alsaconf/po'
 mv: cannot stat `t-ja.gmo': No such file or directory
 make[2]: *** [ja.gmo] Error 1
 make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/alsa-utils-1.0.10/alsaconf/po'
 make[1]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/alsa-utils-1.0.10/alsaconf'
 make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
 
 The new version breaks at the same position?
 
 
 



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Re: [Alsa-user] Creative X-Fi card.

2006-01-17 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 15:00 +0100, Stephen Reilly wrote:
 Sorry I could not be of more help. Was wondering if anybody else would 
 mail the dude? Maybe try and put some friendly consumer pressur on the 
 matter?

Since this card just came out, I suspect he means that their engineers
are working full time to fix bugs in the Windows drivers, and once they
get those to a reasonable state, they will help us with a Linux driver.

I don't think there's anything that can be done to speed up the process.

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] Ice1712 FC4 Kernel upgrade - dmix not working

2006-01-17 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 15:01 -0500, Rich Rosa wrote:
 What do you think of downgrading to make this work?

It still does not work with the latest ALSA version?

How exactly are you testing it, and what is the exact error you get?

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] what is emu10k1_gp

2006-01-17 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 21:12 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
 Hi. This module turned up on someones lsmod. It's obviously oss, and 
 associated with the gameport, but I can't find any info about it.
 
 It was on the lsmod of someone I was trying to help, that had Alsa installed, 
 and is using an Audigy live, but had, or still has midi problems. 
 
 It does not show up on my lsmod for the Audigy2. We both are using the 
 via82cxxx driver for the onboard soundcard. Mine is disabled by jumpers on 
 the MOBO, and I presume that is why snd-via82cxxx is not loaded, but 
 via82cxxx still shows up on my lsmod. Her lsmod shows snd-via82cxxx, and 
 snd-emu10k1 loaded, plus via82cxxx, and this emu10k1_gp, both are tied into 
 the Gameport entry on the lsmod.
 
 Only academic interest. Nigel.

Don't load it if you are connecting a MIDI device to the MIDI/game port.
It's only needed for connecting a joystick device.

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Re: [Alsa-user] what is emu10k1_gp

2006-01-17 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 22:16 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
 On Tuesday 17 January 2006 21:18, Lee Revell wrote:
  On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 21:12 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
   Hi. This module turned up on someones lsmod. It's obviously oss, and
   associated with the gameport, but I can't find any info about it.
  
   It was on the lsmod of someone I was trying to help, that had Alsa
   installed, and is using an Audigy live, but had, or still has midi
   problems.
  
   It does not show up on my lsmod for the Audigy2. We both are using the
   via82cxxx driver for the onboard soundcard. Mine is disabled by jumpers
   on the MOBO, and I presume that is why snd-via82cxxx is not loaded, but
   via82cxxx still shows up on my lsmod. Her lsmod shows snd-via82cxxx, and
   snd-emu10k1 loaded, plus via82cxxx, and this emu10k1_gp, both are tied
   into the Gameport entry on the lsmod.
  
   Only academic interest. Nigel.
 
  Don't load it if you are connecting a MIDI device to the MIDI/game port.
  It's only needed for connecting a joystick device.
 
  Lee
 
 Hi Lee. If this was loaded, would it have any adverse affects on playing midi 
 files with Kmid, aplaymidi. Also is there any info for this module,as I've 
 never seen it before.
 
 Apologies for extending this thread. I'm having terrible problems 
 (mailman/sourceforge) sending to the list. I am interested in an answer to 
 the question, and am not deliberately trying to waste time. Nigel.

No this should have no effect at all on regular MIDI playback using
snd_emu10k1_synth.

I have never heard of the wavetable synth not working, I have absolutely
no idea what could be wrong.  Try booting a live CD with an old version
of ALSA and see if that works.

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] what is emu10k1_gp

2006-01-17 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 22:16 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
 Hi Lee. If this was loaded, would it have any adverse affects on
 playing midi files with Kmid, aplaymidi. Also is there any info for
 this module,as I've never seen it before. 

I think I have an idea what might be causing the silent SBLive!
wavetable synth bug.  See alsa-devel for more info.

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] Ice1712 FC4 Kernel upgrade - dmix not working

2006-01-17 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 18:21 -0500, Rich Rosa wrote:
 I appreciate your help.
 
 I upgaded to 1.0.11rc2. It is patched with the ICE1712.conf changes.

It looks like your .asoundrc is incorrect, it does not specify S32_LE
format which is all the hardware supports.

Why don't you just remove the .asoundrc and use the default
configuration?

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] Ice1712 FC4 Kernel upgrade - dmix not working

2006-01-17 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 18:21 -0500, Rich Rosa wrote:
 pcm.channel12 {
 type dmix
 ipc_key 1024
 slave {
 pcm hw:0,0
 period_time 0
 period_size 1024
 buffer_size 4096 
 rate 44100
 }
 bindings {
 0 2
 1 3
 }
 } 

Where did you get this .asoundrc?  The bindings syntax is completely
wrong.

There is a lot of terrible advice regarding ALSA configuration floating
around on the net.  The best advice is to use the default configuration.

A proper bindings section looks like:

  bindings [
  { slave 0 channel 0 }
  { slave 0 channel 1 }
  { slave 1 channel 0 }
  { slave 1 channel 1 }
  ]

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] Ice1712 FC4 Kernel upgrade - dmix not working

2006-01-17 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 19:39 -0500, Rich Rosa wrote:
 Thanks again. 
 
 My objective for purchasing this card is to use it to output several
 different stereo channels of sound to my home audio equiment
 concurrently. The configurations that were posted on this group all
 worked on prior versions of ALSA then something broke. From here on
 I'm kinda lost. 

Why can't you use the normal front, rear, centerlfe, surround51, etc
channels for this?

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] Ice1712 FC4 Kernel upgrade - dmix not working

2006-01-17 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 20:31 -0500, Rich Rosa wrote:
 yes, I tried that. I get this error. 
 
 alsaplayer -d surround51 joe.mp3

What about plug:surround51?

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Re: [Alsa-user] Ice1712 FC4 Kernel upgrade - dmix not working

2006-01-17 Thread Lee Revell
Please leave alsa-user in the CC list, so other users will see the
solution!

On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 20:50 -0500, Rich Rosa wrote:
 Thanks!! That works, and lights up audio in channels 12. I'm still
 miffed out how to get audio concurrently on channel 34 on this puupy.
 I imagine my asound.conf was close but throws those errors I showed
 you. 
 
 I appreciate your efforts!!
 

Try (with the custom config disabled):

plug:rear
plug:centerlfe

Lee

 On 1/17/06, Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 20:31 -0500, Rich Rosa wrote:
  yes, I tried that. I get this error.
 
  alsaplayer -d surround51 joe.mp3
 
 What about plug:surround51?
 
 Lee
 
 



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Re: [Alsa-user] Ice1712 FC4 Kernel upgrade - dmix not working

2006-01-17 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 20:50 -0500, Rich Rosa wrote:
 I imagine my asound.conf was close but throws those errors I showed
 you. 
 

These cards are tricky to create a custom config for, due to unusual
hardware restrictions (S32_LE format and a small audio buffer).

This is why I recommend using the default config, if at all possible.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Ice1712 FC4 Kernel upgrade - dmix not working

2006-01-17 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 21:06 -0500, Rich Rosa wrote:
 I tried without the asound.conf file. I can send audio to any of the
 pre-defined channels, but not two at the same time. I feel we're
 getting closer here though. 

I am not sure this hardware supports using the outputs simultaneously as
independent mono/stereo PCMs, at the ALSA level.  Maybe someone else who
has the hardware can comment?

Your best bet may be to use JACK, which will see the device as 10 inputs
and 12 outputs, that you can connect any client to independently.

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] Ice1712 FC4 Kernel upgrade - dmix not working

2006-01-17 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 21:06 -0500, Rich Rosa wrote:
 I tried without the asound.conf file. I can send audio to any of the
 pre-defined channels, but not two at the same time. I feel we're
 getting closer here though. 

By at the same time do you mean two alsaplayer processes, or two
stereo pairs?

Lee 



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Re: [Alsa-user] what is emu10k1_gp

2006-01-18 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 21:04 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
 On Tuesday 17 January 2006 22:33, Lee Revell wrote:
  On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 22:16 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
   Hi Lee. If this was loaded, would it have any adverse affects on
   playing midi files with Kmid, aplaymidi. Also is there any info for
   this module,as I've never seen it before.
 
  I think I have an idea what might be causing the silent SBLive!
  wavetable synth bug.  See alsa-devel for more info.
 
  Lee
 
 Hi Lee. I had a look at the alsa-devel archives, but couldn't find anything. 
 Any direct links, tips? I'd also looked at the info for the Audigy live, and 
 saw there were some problems with midi, but these appeared to be quite old 
 postings, and more to do with stuttering than total silence. Nigel.
 

Try a known good ALSA version like 1.0.9, the patch in question was
added in September 2005.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Impossible to configure Intel HDA

2006-01-18 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 00:32 +0100, Mauro Sacchetto wrote:
 I use Slackware 10.2. With kernel 2.6.14.6 and 2.5
 I'm not more able to configure my audio card,
 Intel HDA based on RealTeckALC882,
 nor with the latest official release of alsa,
 nor with the actual rc version. Alsaconf finds 
 the card, mut alsamixer doesn't work and tells:
 /usr/sbin/alsactl: set_control:873: failed to obtain info for
 control 
 #1 (Invalid argument)
 The same if I put its support in kernel.
 Morevoer, KDE tells me that it's impossibile
 to find /dev/dsp, even if it exists!
 Any suggestion?

Did it ever work, with a previous version?

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Re: [Alsa-user] Impossible to configure Intel HDA

2006-01-18 Thread Lee Revell
(please use reply-to-all)

On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 06:04 +0100, Mauro Sacchetto wrote:
 Alle 00:49, giovedì 19 gennaio 2006, hai scritto:
   I use Slackware 10.2. With kernel 2.6.14.6 and 2.5
   I'm not more able to configure my audio card,
   Intel HDA based on RealTeckALC882,
   nor with the latest official release of alsa,
   nor with the actual rc version. Alsaconf finds
   the card, mut alsamixer doesn't work and tells:
   /usr/sbin/alsactl: set_control:873: failed to obtain info for
   control
   #1 (Invalid argument)
 [cut]
 
  Did it ever work, with a previous version?
 Yes, always working. With Slackware 10.2 and previous kernels
 works all alsa versions. SO I wrote to kernel guys too...

OK.  Can you try the very latest alsa-lib, to make sure the issue is not
an incompatibility there?

If that does not work, can you do a binary search with ALSA CVS to
identify exactly when it broke?

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Re: [Alsa-user] Problem about emu10k1x datasheet

2006-01-18 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 13:01 +0800, Kun Niu wrote:
 Dear all,
  
  
 I've got a sound card SB! Live 5.1 Dell OEM.
 It worked well on my ubuntu, gentoo,sarge.
 But I can't find a driver for my card on FreeBSD 6.0 release.
 And I'll have try to write one by myself.
 But I can't find any datasheet for my card.
 Can anyone give some hints how to get one?
  
 Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
  

There is no datasheet, the Linux driver was reverse engineered.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Problem about emu10k1x datasheet

2006-01-18 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 13:01 +0800, Kun Niu wrote:
 Dear all,
  
  
 I've got a sound card SB! Live 5.1 Dell OEM.
 It worked well on my ubuntu, gentoo,sarge.
 But I can't find a driver for my card on FreeBSD 6.0 release.
 And I'll have try to write one by myself.
 But I can't find any datasheet for my card.
 Can anyone give some hints how to get one?
  
 Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
  

Your best bet is to contact the copyright owner of the Linux driver, and
ask their permission to write a BSD licensed driver based on it.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Problem about emu10k1x datasheet

2006-01-18 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 00:33 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Thursday 19 January 2006 00:16, Lee Revell wrote:
 On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 13:01 +0800, Kun Niu wrote:
  Dear all,
 
 
  I've got a sound card SB! Live 5.1 Dell OEM.
  It worked well on my ubuntu, gentoo,sarge.
  But I can't find a driver for my card on FreeBSD 6.0 release.
  And I'll have try to write one by myself.
  But I can't find any datasheet for my card.
  Can anyone give some hints how to get one?
 
  Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
 
 There is no datasheet, the Linux driver was reverse engineered.
 
 Humm, my memory says otherwise, Lee.  There was a time 4 years or so 
 back up the log when emu10k1 was not part of the kernel tree.  If you 
 had an SBLive (mine is a Value) then you went to a site creative had 
 setup, downloaded the srcs and built it on the target machine.  And 
 when it was merged, I had assumed that those srcs had been officially 
 donated by creative.  From the top of emu10k1_main.c:
 /*
  *  Copyright (c) by Jaroslav Kysela [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  *   Creative Labs, Inc.
  *  Routines for control of EMU10K1 chips
  *
  *  Copyright (c) by James Courtier-Dutton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  *  Added support for Audigy 2 Value.
 
 So I believe that confirms my theory.
 

The emu10k1x is not the emu10k1.

The former is only in Dell machines and the driver was reverse
engineered.  The latter driver is based on one that Creative
contributed.

Lee

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Re: [Alsa-user] Problem about emu10k1x datasheet

2006-01-18 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 21:36 -0800, Bill Unruh wrote:
 On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote:
 
  On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 13:01 +0800, Kun Niu wrote:
  Dear all,
 
 
  I've got a sound card SB! Live 5.1 Dell OEM.
  It worked well on my ubuntu, gentoo,sarge.
  But I can't find a driver for my card on FreeBSD 6.0 release.
  And I'll have try to write one by myself.
  But I can't find any datasheet for my card.
  Can anyone give some hints how to get one?
 
  Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
 
 
  Your best bet is to contact the copyright owner of the Linux driver, and
  ask their permission to write a BSD licensed driver based on it.
 
 Isn't it GPL?
 He can write one for himself-- he already has permission. He could include
 it in a distro as well, but under GPL-- not sure if a module makes the
 kernel into a derived work but I would doubt it.
 
 Of course getting permission to make it a BSD license might be cleanest,
 but I don't think is needed, is it?
 

Yes, the GPL does not allow you to take a GPL driver and write a BSD
licensed driver based on it.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Problem about emu10k1x datasheet

2006-01-18 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 21:48 -0800, Bill Unruh wrote:
 On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote:
 
  On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 21:36 -0800, Bill Unruh wrote:
  On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote:
 
  On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 13:01 +0800, Kun Niu wrote:
  Dear all,
 
 
  I've got a sound card SB! Live 5.1 Dell OEM.
  It worked well on my ubuntu, gentoo,sarge.
  But I can't find a driver for my card on FreeBSD 6.0 release.
  And I'll have try to write one by myself.
  But I can't find any datasheet for my card.
  Can anyone give some hints how to get one?
 
  Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
 
 
  Your best bet is to contact the copyright owner of the Linux driver, and
  ask their permission to write a BSD licensed driver based on it.
 
  Isn't it GPL?
  He can write one for himself-- he already has permission. He could include
  it in a distro as well, but under GPL-- not sure if a module makes the
  kernel into a derived work but I would doubt it.
 
  Of course getting permission to make it a BSD license might be cleanest,
  but I don't think is needed, is it?
 
 
  Yes, the GPL does not allow you to take a GPL driver and write a BSD
  licensed driver based on it.
 
 Agreed. But it does allow you to take a GPL driver and write a GPL licensed
 driver based on it. Then the question is whether that GPL licensed driver
 can be used withing FreeBSD-- ie if there is anything in the FreeBSD
 license which makes use of a GPL driver contrary to the license. I do not
 think that the GPL license would forbid its use in FreeBSD.
 

Ah, OK.  I just assumed that FreeBSD would only accept BSD licensed
drivers.

You are right, he is probably free to use his own GPL'ed driver with
FreeBSD, I suspect it just could not be accepted into a distribution.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Ice1712 FC4 Kernel upgrade - dmix not working

2006-01-20 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 19:52 -0500, Rich Rosa wrote:
 OK. I have a solution and a working asound.conf file. The setup below
 allows me to use two seperate stereo channels to output MPD streams.
 This is working well now. 
 
 My only remaining problem is how to use XMMS with this config file.
 Everytime I try it it is blocked. Any suggestions?

It sounds like XMMS is configured to using the hw:X PCM rather than
one of the dmix PCMs you have defined, or it's using OSS emulation.

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Re: [Alsa-user] problem with USB latency (emi 6|2m)

2006-01-20 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 13:21 +0100, Alexander Carôt wrote:
 Hi to all,
 
 I have a Fedora Core 3 2,66 GHz-machine with low-latency kernel (Planet
 CCRMA).
 

 P.S.: Similar behavior I experience with a cheap soundblaster MP3+.
 

Is this a laptop?  You may be experiencing the ACPI/SMM bug.

You are referring to a PCI soundblaster not USB right?

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Re: [Alsa-user] alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: Permission denied

2006-01-20 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 17:00 +, Sebastian Reitenbach wrote:
 Hi alsa users,
 
 I am trying to get a  mentioned card to work. unable to find the error.
 So I downloaded the alsa-driver-1.0.9.tar.bz2 archive to have the latest
 drivers. 
   

That is NOT the latest version!  The latest stable release is 1.0.10,
the latest development release is 1.0.11-rc2.

Also please upgrade alsa-lib when upgrading alsa-driver!!!

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Re: [Alsa-user] snd_cmipci + optical input

2006-01-20 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 21:52 +0100, Patrick Plattes wrote:
 Hello,
 
 i'm new to the list and i have (maybe a stupid) problem. I'm using a
 terratec 5.1 soundcard and everything works fine until now :). But since
 i try to use the optical input i see an issue. I don't know how to
 record the input. I can hear the sound on the lodspeaker, but i'm not
 able to record it with audacity or any other tools.
 
 I don't know if it depends on the alsa version. I use a nearly default
 debian system with:
 Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.4 (Mon May 17
 14:31:44 2004 UTC).
 Compiled on Oct  2 2005 for kernel 2.6.8-11-amd64-generic.

1.0.4 is WAY too old to be able to debug.  Try a recent release (at
least 1.0.10).

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Re: [Alsa-user] Vivanco 6C PCI and Midi?

2006-01-20 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 22:45 +0100, Lorenz Hopfmüller wrote:
 I need a card which costs less than 25 €(Euro), plays MIDI without problems 
 and in a good qualiti and is complitliy compatible with alsa.
 Which one should I choose?
 I don't want to buy a wrong again, you understand?

This describes all emu10k1 based cards like the Sound Blaster Live! and
Audigy 1 and 2 exactly.  Make sure not to get the crippled SBLive! 24
bit - your best bet is a good old SBLive! 5.1 OEM.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Ice1712 FC4 Kernel upgrade - dmix not working

2006-01-20 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 20:44 -0500, Rich Rosa wrote:
 My XMMS settings are:
 audio device: pcm:channel12
 Mixer Card: M-Audio Delta 1010LT
 Mixer Device: PCM
 

I have absolutely no idea why this won't work.  If aplay works then XMMS
should.

Try stracing it.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Ice1712 FC4 Kernel upgrade - dmix not working

2006-01-20 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 20:44 -0500, Rich Rosa wrote:
 My XMMS settings are:
 audio device: pcm:channel12
 Mixer Card: M-Audio Delta 1010LT
 Mixer Device: PCM
 

Also your Bindings syntax is still completely wrong, see my previous
email.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Ice1712 FC4 Kernel upgrade - dmix not working

2006-01-20 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 20:44 -0500, Rich Rosa wrote:
 My XMMS settings are:
 audio device: pcm:channel12
 Mixer Card: M-Audio Delta 1010LT
 Mixer Device: PCM
 

What is the output of:

$ grep pcm ~/.xmms/config
pcm_device=default

It should say:

pcm_device=channel12

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Re: [Alsa-user] Ice1712 FC4 Kernel upgrade - dmix not working

2006-01-20 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 21:06 -0500, Rich Rosa wrote:
 If I use software mixer control it works!!
 
 Thanks for all your help. 

That's very strange, where exactly is the configuration item in XMMS to
do this and what exactly did you change?

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Re: [Alsa-user] HDA Intel alsamixer controls strange.

2006-01-20 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 18:11 -0800, Bill Unruh wrote:
   I am running alsa (mandrake 10.1 alsa version 1.0.6-- so maybe this is
 fixed later). If I run alsamixer, I get controls 
 Headphone, PCM, FronMic, Surround, Center, LFE, Line, CD, Mic,PCSpeaker,
 Capture, Capture, Channel, InputSo, Input So.
 HOwever the only control that seems to affect output level is PCM, but left
 it as very quiet. 
 If I run aumix on the other hand I have 
 Vol, PCM, Spkr, Line, Mic PCM2, Igain, and in particular the Vol control
 finally allowed me to take the volume up to a listenable level.
 
 The question I have is why is the Vol control not in the alsamixer
 controls? ( and how does PCM2 and IGain map onto the alsamixer settings.

No idea, this is not an issue at the ALSA level - you would have to look
at the source code of those mixer apps to see what aumix is doing
differently.

And yes, 1.0.6 is way too old for bug reports.  It does not even have
software mixing and volume control.

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Re: [Alsa-user] HDA Intel alsamixer controls strange.

2006-01-20 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 23:30 -0800, Bill Unruh wrote:
 On Fri, 20 Jan 2006, Lee Revell wrote:
 
  On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 18:11 -0800, Bill Unruh wrote:
I am running alsa (mandrake 10.1 alsa version 1.0.6-- so maybe this is
  fixed later). If I run alsamixer, I get controls
  Headphone, PCM, FronMic, Surround, Center, LFE, Line, CD, Mic,PCSpeaker,
  Capture, Capture, Channel, InputSo, Input So.
  HOwever the only control that seems to affect output level is PCM, but left
  it as very quiet.
  If I run aumix on the other hand I have
  Vol, PCM, Spkr, Line, Mic PCM2, Igain, and in particular the Vol control
  finally allowed me to take the volume up to a listenable level.
 
  The question I have is why is the Vol control not in the alsamixer
  controls? ( and how does PCM2 and IGain map onto the alsamixer settings.
 
  No idea, this is not an issue at the ALSA level - you would have to look
  at the source code of those mixer apps to see what aumix is doing
  differently.
 
  And yes, 1.0.6 is way too old for bug reports.  It does not even have
  software mixing and volume control.
 
 Actually I think the version is wrong. It is kernel 2.6.11 (which updated
 the 2.6.8 kernel in Mandrake 10.1) So whatever alsa is in 2.6.11 is what I
 have. (I think it is 1.0.8) I had the 1.0.6 alsa utils, which I updated to 
 1.0.9, but that made no
 difference.
 
 The question of course is NOT why aumix has a volume control which works
 but why the alsa mixer (which surely is part of alsa) has no volume
 control, and as a result I could not turn up the  output volume using 
 alsamixer. 
 Surely the complete absense of a volume control is a bug.
 
 
 By the way how in the world do I find out what the alsa level is in some
 kernel. I have looked through the sound/* source code in the 2.6.11 kernel
 and can find no indiction anywhere of the alsa level. And I cannot seem to
 find the level anywhere in the modules.
 
 


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Re: [Alsa-user] HDA Intel alsamixer controls strange.

2006-01-20 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 23:30 -0800, Bill Unruh wrote:
 The question of course is NOT why aumix has a volume control which
 works
 but why the alsa mixer (which surely is part of alsa) has no volume
 control, and as a result I could not turn up the  output volume using
 alsamixer. 
 Surely the complete absense of a volume control is a bug. 

Not necessarily, lots of hardware does not have a volume control these
days.  Maybe aumix calls PCM volume, who knows.  You would have to
look at the source.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Vivanco 6C PCI and Midi?

2006-01-21 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 10:31 +0100, Lorenz Hopfmüller wrote:
 I bought this Vivanco-card, because the hompage tells me about a
 onboard wavetable synth.
 So I don't trust descriptions any more. 

The description was correct, but just because a card has a feature, you
can't assume that ALSA supports it, because most vendors don't give us
the needed specs.

Lee



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Re: [Alsa-user] Vivanco 6C PCI and Midi?

2006-01-21 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 10:31 +0100, Lorenz Hopfmüller wrote:
 Would be very very nice, if somebody simply told me the name/a link of
 a card, wich plays midi without a software synth. 

The only such cards are the ones supported by the snd-emu10k1 driver.

Lee



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