Re: [Amsn-devel] Talk to a online contact while appearing offline
why can't people understand the sentence search before asking, I'm sure it's been answered at least 10 times already in the forums... and this mailing list is NOT FOR USER SUPPORT, it's for development related issues!!! although you're talking about the implementation part of a feature, I sincerely think that this should go in the forums, either in the 'amsn development related issues' forum, or the 'feedback and suggestions' forum. search there and find your answer. it can't be done unless we switch to the newer protocol. end of the story KaKaRoTo On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 08:34:46AM +0100, Lord Zak wrote: The problems seems to be there is a problem to engage a conversation : in you talk to somebody and then, switch to offline, it works. 2007/3/12, Joshua Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi everyone. I just wanted to see if anyone was working on a way that you can talk to a online contact while appearing offline. I know that Windows Live Messenger supports this, but amsn still says Message Can't be Delivered. It is possible to send offline messages while appearing offline though. If no one else is working on this, I will have a look at the source myself to see if this is possible. Thanks, Josh. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- [ Lord Zak ] - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] New profiles aren't saved
Youness Alaoui wrote: yes, would be less confusing, but I don't think that a 'forget me' button would be confusing either... all we care about is to avoid a user unchecking that field by mistake and get all his log files deleted (I know that if I lost my 1GB+ log files dir, I would kill myself:p) sure, but in that case you would popup a BIG FAT NOTICE: if you uncheck this option you will LOSE all of your stored data. DO YOU REALLY WANT TO CONTINUE? [OK/Cancel] - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] New login screen - security flaw
As far as creating a new account doesn't work, yes. But I'm assuming you intend to fix that, and when you do this behaviour will become exploitable. On 3/11/07, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: good point... but afaik, the latest svn version doesn't allow that, right ? KKRT On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 06:26:35PM +, Steve H wrote: Hey there, just wanted to point out a potential security flaw I came across today with the new login screen. If a guest user logs in without selecting to create an account or save password and then you choose to log out the username password are still in the login form. This leaves the ability to then select create account and remember password and somewhat stealing the guest user's password. Regards, Steve - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] New profiles aren't saved
lol, exactly.. most people I know (which really frustrates me) whenever they see a poup window appear with ok/cancel, they click ok without reading it.. S many times, I've seen people click ok and I ask waht was the window saying and they say I don't know, didn't read it, argh... :s and I think that even if it's a big fat notice.. they still won't read it.. at least, with a 'forget me' button that you click, instead of just 'disable a checkbox', it's better.. for me a checkbox is for an 'option', it shouldn't do an action. KKRT On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 11:40:54AM +0100, NoWhereMan wrote: Youness Alaoui wrote: yes, would be less confusing, but I don't think that a 'forget me' button would be confusing either... all we care about is to avoid a user unchecking that field by mistake and get all his log files deleted (I know that if I lost my 1GB+ log files dir, I would kill myself:p) sure, but in that case you would popup a BIG FAT NOTICE: if you uncheck this option you will LOSE all of your stored data. DO YOU REALLY WANT TO CONTINUE? [OK/Cancel] - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] New profiles aren't saved
Right, I added the forget me button, it doesn't do exactly what it should yet, it just calls DeleteProfile but of course it can't be deleted cos it's locked :D so I'll sort that out later today probs. I also made the input fields (user, pass, status) change size with window resizes. Let me know if you think they should be less/more proportion of the window size, at the moment it's 0.5. Tom On 12/03/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/03/07, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lol, exactly.. most people I know (which really frustrates me) whenever they see a poup window appear with ok/cancel, they click ok without reading it.. S many times, I've seen people click ok and I ask waht was the window saying and they say I don't know, didn't read it, argh... :s and I think that even if it's a big fat notice.. they still won't read it.. at least, with a 'forget me' button that you click, instead of just 'disable a checkbox', it's better.. for me a checkbox is for an 'option', it shouldn't do an action. D'accord! KKRT On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 11:40:54AM +0100, NoWhereMan wrote: Youness Alaoui wrote: yes, would be less confusing, but I don't think that a 'forget me' button would be confusing either... all we care about is to avoid a user unchecking that field by mistake and get all his log files deleted (I know that if I lost my 1GB+ log files dir, I would kill myself:p) sure, but in that case you would popup a BIG FAT NOTICE: if you uncheck this option you will LOSE all of your stored data. DO YOU REALLY WANT TO CONTINUE? [OK/Cancel] - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] New login screen - security flaw
Updated to latest SVN (r8200) and issue is still there. However, create new account now works so it's now even worse. it should select back the last used profile, instead of the last logged in username/password. - it doesn't do this On 3/12/07, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as I said 'the latest svn version', maybe you should update your svn version because I fixed the 'create a new account' a couple of days ago, and at the same time, I made ir so that whenever the login screen is shown, it purges all the user list from it and recreates it, fetching the latest profiles stored, and select the latest used profile (in case you add a new profile, it allows the list of profiles to be updated), so the current behavior should be that after using a non-profile, when you logout, it should select back the last used profile, instead of the last logged in username/password. I'm wodnering if we should keep it like this, or if we should at least show the last username entered even if the remember_me option is unchecked.. can you do a svn update and see if you can still find the issue you're talking about ? thanks KKRT On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 12:25:59PM +, Steve H wrote: As far as creating a new account doesn't work, yes. But I'm assuming you intend to fix that, and when you do this behaviour will become exploitable. On 3/11/07, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: good point... but afaik, the latest svn version doesn't allow that, right ? KKRT On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 06:26:35PM +, Steve H wrote: Hey there, just wanted to point out a potential security flaw I came across today with the new login screen. If a guest user logs in without selecting to create an account or save password and then you choose to log out the username password are still in the login form. This leaves the ability to then select create account and remember password and somewhat stealing the guest user's password. Regards, Steve - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] stats and next release
Hi all,So let's answer some of KKRT's questions: 1) OIM: 1 - we keep it as is, screw the proxy people, and screw those who think that the pc freezing for a few minutes is a big deal 2 - rewrtie it, replacing 'tclsoap:;create' by 'http::geturl' ? --I'm not a dev, but the answer seems obvious: option 2, replace tclsoap. It's true OIMs are really too slow, many people will report it as a 'bug', complaining on the forum or whatever. 2) Audio/Video Assistant: 1 - replace the 'configure webcam' by the a/v settings and leave the firewall thing elsewhere 2 - add a new step for network capabilities in the assistant and replace the whole configure webcam button. 3 - leve the 'configure webcam' but change the webcam wizard (through the button 'change webcam settings') by the assistant --Well, I'm not using any webcam, so I really dunno about this feature. Let's move to the next question: 3) MSN Spaces: 1 - drop the feature 2 - complete it 3 - leave it half-way done 4 - make it 'usable' but not 'wow it's great' --I also think this feature should be available for 0.97, because so many users want aMSN to be a clone of MSN/WLM, that if they saw it incomplete they would dislike aMSN, and most of them want such a feature. Now (and it's the same for every question I answer here), I'm not a dev, I'm speaking as an user... 4) Skin:-- Gus' and Lee's job, so next question: 5) Order contacts by status: advanced pref? the 'view' menu ? where ? -- I find it obvious to put it in View Menu, with the rest of Order by... lines. I don't see why we should put it elsewhere... It would really confuse users, that are already a bit lost in all the prefs (especially Advanced)! 6) About Log-in Screen: -- There were no question, but I would like to give my opinion about it (updated to rev 8200):Very nice feature, as I already said :)Two things I noticed: a) the length of the field for e-mail adress/password/status is huge compared to the length of anything else... Any reason I would have missed for this? b) The forget_me button... I REALLY dislike this: it WILL cause many problems to the users!! As KKRT said earlier, thousands of people just click OK when a windows pop-up, without looking at it. Of course, we need to allow the user to delete an account inside aMSN, but it shouldn't be there... In the Prefs, or perhaps better: in the Account menu of the user, so that no one can delete the account of someone (via aMSN of course) from the common log-in screen. Or anything else, I dunno... But imagine a family of 3 children, where there's a little boy of 12 years old, that'll push this button just to see, and delete all accounts... That's why I find it should be hidden. Just MHO of course. 7) What about the stats: great idea :DI always wondered if something like this existed :P Does someone have an idea of the amount of people using aMSN over the world?I noticed one thing: aMSN Plus! is the plug-in with the most downloads... And we all know how buggy it is, and how much users encounter troubles because of it.Shouldn't we do something about it? Enhance the code, doesn't allow it to be downloaded again, create a new plug-in allowing the features currently supported by aMSN Plus! ? Anything else? Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:48:53 -0400 To: amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Amsn-devel] stats and next release Hello all, first I'll talk about the next release (0.97) then I'll give you some stats that we get from our website, thanks to lePhilousophe! so.. what about the next release ? huh ? well, it's taking too much time.. at the speed we're at, it will take a really long time before we get it out, although we're almost there.. the original deadline was april 1st, then I made it march 1st seeing how fast development was, then it stalled.. so I hope we still get amsn out for april 1st, ok ? so what's left for us ? well, here's the latest TODO list for the next release : New Complete 0.97 TODO : - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe) (make it work behind proxies)[1;5F - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob) - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto) (make it work behind proxies) - Finish the new Skin - Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL - Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit) I want to talk about each one of them one by one.. first : - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe) (make it work behind proxies) So far, the OIM support seems to be COMPLETE, although the use of tclsoap makes it very very slow, so I wonder if we should replace tclsoap with using the http command directly, because we use NOTHING from tclsoap, lol, we generate the whole xml ourself, and we parse the whole response ourself, so.. it's useless
Re: [Amsn-devel] about the UI design
tonighx wrote: I like the file transfer in a separate window: you don't have to scroll to se at what point it is. this is just the opinion af a slow connection user :P I'd like it to be dockable to the main window ;) bye - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] about the UI design
I think we should have a Download Manager type thing, like opera's transfers tab or firefox's download manager. That way you don't have lots of FT windows all over the place, AND you have instant access to all your FTs, in chronological order! This has been proposed before... Tom On 12/03/07, NoWhereMan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tonighx wrote: I like the file transfer in a separate window: you don't have to scroll to se at what point it is. this is just the opinion af a slow connection user :P I'd like it to be dockable to the main window ;) bye - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] about the UI design
And btw, I think if we do go down this road, it should be a snit widget :P On 12/03/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we should have a Download Manager type thing, like opera's transfers tab or firefox's download manager. That way you don't have lots of FT windows all over the place, AND you have instant access to all your FTs, in chronological order! This has been proposed before... Tom On 12/03/07, NoWhereMan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tonighx wrote: I like the file transfer in a separate window: you don't have to scroll to se at what point it is. this is just the opinion af a slow connection user :P I'd like it to be dockable to the main window ;) bye - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] about the UI design
and I'd like a poney (not really, but hey!:p) On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 05:42:42PM +0100, NoWhereMan wrote: tonighx wrote: I like the file transfer in a separate window: you don't have to scroll to se at what point it is. this is just the opinion af a slow connection user :P I'd like it to be dockable to the main window ;) bye - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] about the UI design
ohhh yeah, for sure, a snit object everywhere!! and the transfe rmanager idea is good and we always wanted to do it too, but we never got around to do it, that's all.. KKRT On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 04:46:03PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And btw, I think if we do go down this road, it should be a snit widget :P On 12/03/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we should have a Download Manager type thing, like opera's transfers tab or firefox's download manager. That way you don't have lots of FT windows all over the place, AND you have instant access to all your FTs, in chronological order! This has been proposed before... Tom On 12/03/07, NoWhereMan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tonighx wrote: I like the file transfer in a separate window: you don't have to scroll to se at what point it is. this is just the opinion af a slow connection user :P I'd like it to be dockable to the main window ;) bye - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] about the UI design
Youness Alaoui wrote: and I'd like a poney (not really, but hey!:p) the peace on Earth! lol - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] about the UI design
NoWhereMan wrote: Youness Alaoui wrote: and I'd like a poney (not really, but hey!:p) the peace on Earth! lol (as a snit object) - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] New profiles aren't saved
as I said in the other thread (but just to keep it all archived on the same thread), he forget me button is very well placed, and the fields resizing to fit the screen, extremely good! BUT for users with a maximized login screen, it would look huge, and it will misplace the checkboxes, etc.. so maybe have a max size, so you do : size = width/2 if size 200 ;#(example) size = 200 what do you think ? KKRT On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 02:54:52PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right, I added the forget me button, it doesn't do exactly what it should yet, it just calls DeleteProfile but of course it can't be deleted cos it's locked :D so I'll sort that out later today probs. I also made the input fields (user, pass, status) change size with window resizes. Let me know if you think they should be less/more proportion of the window size, at the moment it's 0.5. Tom On 12/03/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/03/07, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lol, exactly.. most people I know (which really frustrates me) whenever they see a poup window appear with ok/cancel, they click ok without reading it.. S many times, I've seen people click ok and I ask waht was the window saying and they say I don't know, didn't read it, argh... :s and I think that even if it's a big fat notice.. they still won't read it.. at least, with a 'forget me' button that you click, instead of just 'disable a checkbox', it's better.. for me a checkbox is for an 'option', it shouldn't do an action. D'accord! KKRT On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 11:40:54AM +0100, NoWhereMan wrote: Youness Alaoui wrote: yes, would be less confusing, but I don't think that a 'forget me' button would be confusing either... all we care about is to avoid a user unchecking that field by mistake and get all his log files deleted (I know that if I lost my 1GB+ log files dir, I would kill myself:p) sure, but in that case you would popup a BIG FAT NOTICE: if you uncheck this option you will LOSE all of your stored data. DO YOU REALLY WANT TO CONTINUE? [OK/Cancel] - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] New profiles aren't saved
On 12/03/07, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as I said in the other thread (but just to keep it all archived on the same thread), he forget me button is very well placed, and the fields resizing to fit the screen, extremely good! BUT for users with a maximized login screen, it would look huge, and it will misplace the checkboxes, etc.. so maybe have a max size, so you do : size = width/2 if size 200 ;#(example) size = 200 what do you think ? yeah I thought about that, I'll do it so it's like 30 char widths max? KKRT On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 02:54:52PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Right, I added the forget me button, it doesn't do exactly what it should yet, it just calls DeleteProfile but of course it can't be deleted cos it's locked :D so I'll sort that out later today probs. I also made the input fields (user, pass, status) change size with window resizes. Let me know if you think they should be less/more proportion of the window size, at the moment it's 0.5. Tom On 12/03/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/03/07, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lol, exactly.. most people I know (which really frustrates me) whenever they see a poup window appear with ok/cancel, they click ok without reading it.. S many times, I've seen people click ok and I ask waht was the window saying and they say I don't know, didn't read it, argh... :s and I think that even if it's a big fat notice.. they still won't read it.. at least, with a 'forget me' button that you click, instead of just 'disable a checkbox', it's better.. for me a checkbox is for an 'option', it shouldn't do an action. D'accord! KKRT On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 11:40:54AM +0100, NoWhereMan wrote: Youness Alaoui wrote: yes, would be less confusing, but I don't think that a 'forget me' button would be confusing either... all we care about is to avoid a user unchecking that field by mistake and get all his log files deleted (I know that if I lost my 1GB+ log files dir, I would kill myself:p) sure, but in that case you would popup a BIG FAT NOTICE: if you uncheck this option you will LOSE all of your stored data. DO YOU REALLY WANT TO CONTINUE? [OK/Cancel] - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] about the UI design
lol @ your weird desire to have a pony :P Anyway, I think nex time I've got a big slot fo free time I'll start this :) A nice post-0.97 feature I think :D Tom On 12/03/07, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ohhh yeah, for sure, a snit object everywhere!! and the transfe rmanager idea is good and we always wanted to do it too, but we never got around to do it, that's all.. KKRT On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 04:46:03PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED]: And btw, I think if we do go down this road, it should be a snit widget :P On 12/03/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we should have a Download Manager type thing, like opera's transfers tab or firefox's download manager. That way you don't have lots of FT windows all over the place, AND you have instant access to all your FTs, in chronological order! This has been proposed before... Tom On 12/03/07, NoWhereMan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tonighx wrote: I like the file transfer in a separate window: you don't have to scroll to se at what point it is. this is just the opinion af a slow connection user :P I'd like it to be dockable to the main window ;) bye - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] New login screen - security flaw
oh, right, Tom just fixed it, and now that I see his change, I understand my mistake.. sorry about that. Can you confirm it's the way you like it now ? KKRT On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 03:34:06PM +, Steve H wrote: Updated to latest SVN (r8200) and issue is still there. However, create new account now works so it's now even worse. it should select back the last used profile, instead of the last logged in username/password. - it doesn't do this On 3/12/07, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as I said 'the latest svn version', maybe you should update your svn version because I fixed the 'create a new account' a couple of days ago, and at the same time, I made ir so that whenever the login screen is shown, it purges all the user list from it and recreates it, fetching the latest profiles stored, and select the latest used profile (in case you add a new profile, it allows the list of profiles to be updated), so the current behavior should be that after using a non-profile, when you logout, it should select back the last used profile, instead of the last logged in username/password. I'm wodnering if we should keep it like this, or if we should at least show the last username entered even if the remember_me option is unchecked.. can you do a svn update and see if you can still find the issue you're talking about ? thanks KKRT On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 12:25:59PM +, Steve H wrote: As far as creating a new account doesn't work, yes. But I'm assuming you intend to fix that, and when you do this behaviour will become exploitable. On 3/11/07, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: good point... but afaik, the latest svn version doesn't allow that, right ? KKRT On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 06:26:35PM +, Steve H wrote: Hey there, just wanted to point out a potential security flaw I came across today with the new login screen. If a guest user logs in without selecting to create an account or save password and then you choose to log out the username password are still in the login form. This leaves the ability to then select create account and remember password and somewhat stealing the guest user's password. Regards, Steve - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash.
Re: [Amsn-devel] stats and next release
Youness Alaoui a écrit : On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 06:33:27PM +0100, Philippe Valembois - Phil wrote: Hi, this mail is about the OIM system and stats... First, OIMs. We all agree that TclSOAP isn't good at all currently... But using http isn't as easy as Youness said because in fact we won't use it... (Yeah that's bad I know) Because Http extension can't use SOCKS proxies... So we will need to implement several things based on the authentication way... Ok, those who were going crazy of what phil said, calm down, we found a solution to socks +http, and we'll use it ,so http package will still be used ;) Second, about the stats... Youness decided to publish them here... Great but the main aim wasn't to keep it secret... I just missed of time to implement it in the new website and in addition, the stats weren't valid in the first days... Now, they seem to be stable... nah, never meant to be secret, it was just placed somewhere where you need a username/password. which is why I published, until we put it public... Anyway one trouble remains, the sorting of all these skins/plugins... How can we achieve an efficient sorting. I mean that if we sort plugins by downloads it will make these more downloaded and good unknown skins will never be at the top... hehe, exactly what I was thinking too :p If someone has an idea... don't know.. maybe keep sorted by name, but add a 'view top 5' or 'view top 10' link.. Didn't you notice that the TOP5 skins is composed with skins beginning by a ? ;) Phil Youness Alaoui a écrit : Hello all, first I'll talk about the next release (0.97) then I'll give you some stats that we get from our website, thanks to lePhilousophe! so.. what about the next release ? huh ? well, it's taking too much time.. at the speed we're at, it will take a really long time before we get it out, although we're almost there.. the original deadline was april 1st, then I made it march 1st seeing how fast development was, then it stalled.. so I hope we still get amsn out for april 1st, ok ? so what's left for us ? well, here's the latest TODO list for the next release : New Complete 0.97 TODO : - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe) (make it work behind proxies)[1;5F - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob) - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto) (make it work behind proxies) - Finish the new Skin - Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL - Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit) I want to talk about each one of them one by one.. first : - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe) (make it work behind proxies) So far, the OIM support seems to be COMPLETE, although the use of tclsoap makes it very very slow, so I wonder if we should replace tclsoap with using the http command directly, because we use NOTHING from tclsoap, lol, we generate the whole xml ourself, and we parse the whole response ourself, so.. it's useless apart from adding an incredibly huge overhead AND preventing us from adding proxy support.. so yes, the second point is that even if it's complete, we still don't have support for proxies because it seems almost impossible to do with tclsoap.. so the question is : 1 - we keep it as is, screw the proxy people, and screw those who think that the pc freezing for a few minutes is a big deal 2 - rewrtie it, replacing 'tclsoap:;create' by 'http::geturl' ? - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob) This seems to be finished and working pretty well! congrats on billiob! now the thing is that we'll have to integrate it with the prefs window, right now, it's in the chat window-edit-edit a/v settings, but the old webcam wizard is stil lin the prefs-other-configure webcam. we couldn't replace it because that configure webcam still ha sinfo about whether you're firewalled or not, etc.. so we could either : 1 - replace the 'configure webcam' by the a/v settings and leave the firewall thing elsewhere 3 - leve the 'configure webcam' but change the webcam wizard (through the button 'change webcam settings') by the assistant 2 - add a new step for network capabilities in the assistant and replace the whole configure webcam button. - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto) (make it work behind proxies) well well.. this seems to be completely stalled.. so .. what do we want to do now : 1- drop the feature 2 - complete it 3- leave it half-way done 4 - make it 'usable' but not 'wow it's great' - Finish the new Skin humm.. it looks good so far ? I suppose Gus has kept all the comments in his own TODO list, so I don't know how far we're away from completing the new skin.. for now, let's try and make it 'look nice', I like it very much the way it is
Re: [Amsn-devel] stats and next release
Now, it's my time. On 3/12/07, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to talk about each one of them one by one.. first : - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe) (make it work behind proxies) So far, the OIM support seems to be COMPLETE, although the use of tclsoap makes it very very slow, so I wonder if we should replace tclsoap with using the http command directly, because we use NOTHING from tclsoap, lol, we generate the whole xml ourself, and we parse the whole response ourself, so.. it's useless apart from adding an incredibly huge overhead AND preventing us from adding proxy support.. so yes, the second point is that even if it's complete, we still don't have support for proxies because it seems almost impossible to do with tclsoap.. so the question is : 1 - we keep it as is, screw the proxy people, and screw those who think that the pc freezing for a few minutes is a big deal 2 - rewrtie it, replacing 'tclsoap:;create' by 'http::geturl' ? Yesterday evening, i couldn't send oim to Phil because i got authentication failed. I've disconnected and connected again, but it wasn't better. And today it's working fine. Still server issues :( but we can't tackle that issue. About s/tclsoap::create/http::geturl/, i really don't know. - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob) This seems to be finished and working pretty well! congrats on billiob! now the thing is that we'll have to integrate it with the prefs window, right now, it's in the chat window-edit-edit a/v settings, but the old webcam wizard is stil lin the prefs-other-configure webcam. we couldn't replace it because that configure webcam still ha sinfo about whether you're firewalled or not, etc.. so we could either : 1 - replace the 'configure webcam' by the a/v settings and leave the firewall thing elsewhere 3 - leve the 'configure webcam' but change the webcam wizard (through the button 'change webcam settings') by the assistant 2 - add a new step for network capabilities in the assistant and replace the whole configure webcam button. Your list order is weird :D I've started implementing a Network step, but i don't know what to put there. Should we ask there again about lowrescam since it can reduce bandwidth usage ? -- Boris FAURE (aka billiob) mail, msn : [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly agitated. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] stats and next release
Youness Alaoui a écrit : On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 06:33:27PM +0100, Philippe Valembois - Phil wrote: Hi, this mail is about the OIM system and stats... First, OIMs. We all agree that TclSOAP isn't good at all currently... But using http isn't as easy as Youness said because in fact we won't use it... (Yeah that's bad I know) Because Http extension can't use SOCKS proxies... So we will need to implement several things based on the authentication way... Ok, those who were going crazy of what phil said, calm down, we found a solution to socks +http, and we'll use it ,so http package will still be used ;) Second, about the stats... Youness decided to publish them here... Great but the main aim wasn't to keep it secret... I just missed of time to implement it in the new website and in addition, the stats weren't valid in the first days... Now, they seem to be stable... nah, never meant to be secret, it was just placed somewhere where you need a username/password. which is why I published, until we put it public... Anyway one trouble remains, the sorting of all these skins/plugins... How can we achieve an efficient sorting. I mean that if we sort plugins by downloads it will make these more downloaded and good unknown skins will never be at the top... hehe, exactly what I was thinking too :p If someone has an idea... don't know.. maybe keep sorted by name, but add a 'view top 5' or 'view top 10' link.. Didn't you notice that the TOP5 skins is composed with skins beginning by a ? ;) Phil Youness Alaoui a écrit : Hello all, first I'll talk about the next release (0.97) then I'll give you some stats that we get from our website, thanks to lePhilousophe! so.. what about the next release ? huh ? well, it's taking too much time.. at the speed we're at, it will take a really long time before we get it out, although we're almost there.. the original deadline was april 1st, then I made it march 1st seeing how fast development was, then it stalled.. so I hope we still get amsn out for april 1st, ok ? so what's left for us ? well, here's the latest TODO list for the next release : New Complete 0.97 TODO : - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe) (make it work behind proxies)[1;5F - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob) - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto) (make it work behind proxies) - Finish the new Skin - Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL - Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit) I want to talk about each one of them one by one.. first : - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe) (make it work behind proxies) So far, the OIM support seems to be COMPLETE, although the use of tclsoap makes it very very slow, so I wonder if we should replace tclsoap with using the http command directly, because we use NOTHING from tclsoap, lol, we generate the whole xml ourself, and we parse the whole response ourself, so.. it's useless apart from adding an incredibly huge overhead AND preventing us from adding proxy support.. so yes, the second point is that even if it's complete, we still don't have support for proxies because it seems almost impossible to do with tclsoap.. so the question is : 1 - we keep it as is, screw the proxy people, and screw those who think that the pc freezing for a few minutes is a big deal 2 - rewrtie it, replacing 'tclsoap:;create' by 'http::geturl' ? - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob) This seems to be finished and working pretty well! congrats on billiob! now the thing is that we'll have to integrate it with the prefs window, right now, it's in the chat window-edit-edit a/v settings, but the old webcam wizard is stil lin the prefs-other-configure webcam. we couldn't replace it because that configure webcam still ha sinfo about whether you're firewalled or not, etc.. so we could either : 1 - replace the 'configure webcam' by the a/v settings and leave the firewall thing elsewhere 3 - leve the 'configure webcam' but change the webcam wizard (through the button 'change webcam settings') by the assistant 2 - add a new step for network capabilities in the assistant and replace the whole configure webcam button. - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto) (make it work behind proxies) well well.. this seems to be completely stalled.. so .. what do we want to do now : 1- drop the feature 2 - complete it 3- leave it half-way done 4 - make it 'usable' but not 'wow it's great' - Finish the new Skin humm.. it looks good so far ? I suppose Gus has kept all the comments in his own TODO list, so I don't know how far we're away from completing the new skin.. for now, let's try and make it 'look nice', I like it very much the way it is
Re: [Amsn-devel] stats and next release
On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 09:08:35PM +0100, Boris Faure (aka billiob) wrote: Now, it's my time. On 3/12/07, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to talk about each one of them one by one.. first : - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe) (make it work behind proxies) So far, the OIM support seems to be COMPLETE, although the use of tclsoap makes it very very slow, so I wonder if we should replace tclsoap with using the http command directly, because we use NOTHING from tclsoap, lol, we generate the whole xml ourself, and we parse the whole response ourself, so.. it's useless apart from adding an incredibly huge overhead AND preventing us from adding proxy support.. so yes, the second point is that even if it's complete, we still don't have support for proxies because it seems almost impossible to do with tclsoap.. so the question is : 1 - we keep it as is, screw the proxy people, and screw those who think that the pc freezing for a few minutes is a big deal 2 - rewrtie it, replacing 'tclsoap:;create' by 'http::geturl' ? Yesterday evening, i couldn't send oim to Phil because i got authentication failed. I've disconnected and connected again, but it wasn't better. And today it's working fine. Still server issues :( but we can't tackle that issue. About s/tclsoap::create/http::geturl/, i really don't know. server issues, we can't do nothing about them... that's the 'best' we currently have... if WLM fails, we fail, noone is to blame (at least, not us). about the s/tclsoap/http/ Phil is already working on it (good boy:p), we'll be able to replace tclsoap by http (easy) and now we might have a solution for socks and http proxy for those requests... Phil also found out that SOCKS5 is never used for the authentification! that's why some socks5 people can't connect.. - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob) This seems to be finished and working pretty well! congrats on billiob! now the thing is that we'll have to integrate it with the prefs window, right now, it's in the chat window-edit-edit a/v settings, but the old webcam wizard is stil lin the prefs-other-configure webcam. we couldn't replace it because that configure webcam still ha sinfo about whether you're firewalled or not, etc.. so we could either : 1 - replace the 'configure webcam' by the a/v settings and leave the firewall thing elsewhere 3 - leve the 'configure webcam' but change the webcam wizard (through the button 'change webcam settings') by the assistant 2 - add a new step for network capabilities in the assistant and replace the whole configure webcam button. Your list order is weird :D I've started implementing a Network step, but i don't know what to put there. Should we ask there again about lowrescam since it can reduce bandwidth usage ? hehe, ok, well, it could be a simple step : Checking your connectivity : You are firewalled or behind a router (or Your ports are well cofnigured) Choose webcam starting port : [ ] [Test] ... something like that, just like what we already have... and btw, here.. take a look at our little friend, WLM.. look at how they did it!!! bastards :@ lol http://kakaroto.homelinux.net/~kakaroto/connection.jpg and btw, how funny is it, look, you can't configure your http proxy server and port, it says : Please set HTTP proxy server and port using Internet Explorer.. LOL :D anyways, we don't want anything fancy like that, but the options screen on the left is good, some kind of image showing the pc, the internet, the router... and saying whether you're connectable or not, allow you to change your inbound port and test it, that should be enough.. about the lowrescam, no, it's not necessary, the network step isn't to configure bandwidth usage, it's just to see if you are behind a router, or have forwarded your ports, etc... KKRT - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] stats and next release
lol.. almost... well, it's a problem... if we really want it to have a meaning, we'll have to add a 'vote for this skin/plugin' system.. :s but then, it still won't give a chance to smaller/newer skins/plugins KKRT On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 09:08:20PM +0100, Philippe Valembois - Phil wrote: Youness Alaoui a écrit : On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 06:33:27PM +0100, Philippe Valembois - Phil wrote: Hi, this mail is about the OIM system and stats... First, OIMs. We all agree that TclSOAP isn't good at all currently... But using http isn't as easy as Youness said because in fact we won't use it... (Yeah that's bad I know) Because Http extension can't use SOCKS proxies... So we will need to implement several things based on the authentication way... Ok, those who were going crazy of what phil said, calm down, we found a solution to socks +http, and we'll use it ,so http package will still be used ;) Second, about the stats... Youness decided to publish them here... Great but the main aim wasn't to keep it secret... I just missed of time to implement it in the new website and in addition, the stats weren't valid in the first days... Now, they seem to be stable... nah, never meant to be secret, it was just placed somewhere where you need a username/password. which is why I published, until we put it public... Anyway one trouble remains, the sorting of all these skins/plugins... How can we achieve an efficient sorting. I mean that if we sort plugins by downloads it will make these more downloaded and good unknown skins will never be at the top... hehe, exactly what I was thinking too :p If someone has an idea... don't know.. maybe keep sorted by name, but add a 'view top 5' or 'view top 10' link.. Didn't you notice that the TOP5 skins is composed with skins beginning by a ? ;) Phil Youness Alaoui a écrit : Hello all, first I'll talk about the next release (0.97) then I'll give you some stats that we get from our website, thanks to lePhilousophe! so.. what about the next release ? huh ? well, it's taking too much time.. at the speed we're at, it will take a really long time before we get it out, although we're almost there.. the original deadline was april 1st, then I made it march 1st seeing how fast development was, then it stalled.. so I hope we still get amsn out for april 1st, ok ? so what's left for us ? well, here's the latest TODO list for the next release : New Complete 0.97 TODO : - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe) (make it work behind proxies)[1;5F - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob) - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto) (make it work behind proxies) - Finish the new Skin - Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL - Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit) I want to talk about each one of them one by one.. first : - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe) (make it work behind proxies) So far, the OIM support seems to be COMPLETE, although the use of tclsoap makes it very very slow, so I wonder if we should replace tclsoap with using the http command directly, because we use NOTHING from tclsoap, lol, we generate the whole xml ourself, and we parse the whole response ourself, so.. it's useless apart from adding an incredibly huge overhead AND preventing us from adding proxy support.. so yes, the second point is that even if it's complete, we still don't have support for proxies because it seems almost impossible to do with tclsoap.. so the question is : 1 - we keep it as is, screw the proxy people, and screw those who think that the pc freezing for a few minutes is a big deal 2 - rewrtie it, replacing 'tclsoap:;create' by 'http::geturl' ? - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob) This seems to be finished and working pretty well! congrats on billiob! now the thing is that we'll have to integrate it with the prefs window, right now, it's in the chat window-edit-edit a/v settings, but the old webcam wizard is stil lin the prefs-other-configure webcam. we couldn't replace it because that configure webcam still ha sinfo about whether you're firewalled or not, etc.. so we could either : 1 - replace the 'configure webcam' by the a/v settings and leave the firewall thing elsewhere 3 - leve the 'configure webcam' but change the webcam wizard (through the button 'change webcam settings') by the assistant 2 - add a new step for network capabilities in the assistant and replace the whole configure webcam button. - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto) (make it work behind proxies) well well.. this seems to be completely stalled.. so .. what do we want
Re: [Amsn-devel] stats and next release
- Finish the new Skin humm.. it looks good so far ? I suppose Gus has kept all the comments in his own TODO list, so I don't know how far we're away from completing the new skin.. for now, let's try and make it 'look nice', I like it very much the way it is right now, apart from the colors/bg and when the status (away) is in grey and the bg behind it grey, you can't see the status of a user, etc... so maybe just work on that.. So, could Gus or Lee give us a status report on this please ? thanks Lee and I we are working on the New Default, doing some icons improvement and adding a smooth/flat/realistic style to the skin. Yet, most of the pixmaps we have them in a mockup... that once is already done (with our idea) we gonna post here so everybody could see how will look before committing big changes. From now, i have just little time... so Lee is trying to work around the skin, and i am helping him by suggestions (till i could have some time... and i think at the end of this week) Cheers. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
[Amsn-devel] Network usage in high/low res, was Re: stats and next release
I've started implementing a Network step, but i don't know what to put there. Should we ask there again about lowrescam since it can reduce bandwidth usage ? No, it's really not worth it, unless your connection is DAMN SLOW. IIRC, sending and receiving with 56k works acceptably and you can still browse a few pages :) - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] stats and next release
well then, use the random function, to randomly highlight one of the plugins that will show on top On Mon, 2007-03-12 at 16:23 -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote: lol.. almost... well, it's a problem... if we really want it to have a meaning, we'll have to add a 'vote for this skin/plugin' system.. :s but then, it still won't give a chance to smaller/newer skins/plugins KKRT On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 09:08:20PM +0100, Philippe Valembois - Phil wrote: Youness Alaoui a écrit : On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 06:33:27PM +0100, Philippe Valembois - Phil wrote: Hi, this mail is about the OIM system and stats... First, OIMs. We all agree that TclSOAP isn't good at all currently... But using http isn't as easy as Youness said because in fact we won't use it... (Yeah that's bad I know) Because Http extension can't use SOCKS proxies... So we will need to implement several things based on the authentication way... Ok, those who were going crazy of what phil said, calm down, we found a solution to socks +http, and we'll use it ,so http package will still be used ;) Second, about the stats... Youness decided to publish them here... Great but the main aim wasn't to keep it secret... I just missed of time to implement it in the new website and in addition, the stats weren't valid in the first days... Now, they seem to be stable... nah, never meant to be secret, it was just placed somewhere where you need a username/password. which is why I published, until we put it public... Anyway one trouble remains, the sorting of all these skins/plugins... How can we achieve an efficient sorting. I mean that if we sort plugins by downloads it will make these more downloaded and good unknown skins will never be at the top... hehe, exactly what I was thinking too :p If someone has an idea... don't know.. maybe keep sorted by name, but add a 'view top 5' or 'view top 10' link.. Didn't you notice that the TOP5 skins is composed with skins beginning by a ? ;) Phil Youness Alaoui a écrit : Hello all, first I'll talk about the next release (0.97) then I'll give you some stats that we get from our website, thanks to lePhilousophe! so.. what about the next release ? huh ? well, it's taking too much time.. at the speed we're at, it will take a really long time before we get it out, although we're almost there.. the original deadline was april 1st, then I made it march 1st seeing how fast development was, then it stalled.. so I hope we still get amsn out for april 1st, ok ? so what's left for us ? well, here's the latest TODO list for the next release : New Complete 0.97 TODO : - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe) (make it work behind proxies)[1;5F - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob) - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto) (make it work behind proxies) - Finish the new Skin - Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL - Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit) I want to talk about each one of them one by one.. first : - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe) (make it work behind proxies) So far, the OIM support seems to be COMPLETE, although the use of tclsoap makes it very very slow, so I wonder if we should replace tclsoap with using the http command directly, because we use NOTHING from tclsoap, lol, we generate the whole xml ourself, and we parse the whole response ourself, so.. it's useless apart from adding an incredibly huge overhead AND preventing us from adding proxy support.. so yes, the second point is that even if it's complete, we still don't have support for proxies because it seems almost impossible to do with tclsoap.. so the question is : 1 - we keep it as is, screw the proxy people, and screw those who think that the pc freezing for a few minutes is a big deal 2 - rewrtie it, replacing 'tclsoap:;create' by 'http::geturl' ? - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob) This seems to be finished and working pretty well! congrats on billiob! now the thing is that we'll have to integrate it with the prefs window, right now, it's in the chat window-edit-edit a/v settings, but the old webcam wizard is stil lin the prefs-other-configure webcam. we couldn't replace it because that configure webcam still ha sinfo about whether you're firewalled or not, etc.. so we could either : 1 - replace the 'configure webcam' by the a/v settings and leave the firewall thing elsewhere 3 - leve the 'configure webcam' but change the webcam wizard (through the button 'change webcam settings') by the assistant 2 - add a new step for network
Re: [Amsn-devel] stats and next release
ok, thanks for the followup, I spoke with Lee, and asked him if the changes you do on the svg files could also be put in the png files so we can all see the progress and comment on it as time goes.. KKRT On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 05:52:14PM -0300, Gustavo A. Díaz wrote: - Finish the new Skin humm.. it looks good so far ? I suppose Gus has kept all the comments in his own TODO list, so I don't know how far we're away from completing the new skin.. for now, let's try and make it 'look nice', I like it very much the way it is right now, apart from the colors/bg and when the status (away) is in grey and the bg behind it grey, you can't see the status of a user, etc... so maybe just work on that.. So, could Gus or Lee give us a status report on this please ? thanks Lee and I we are working on the New Default, doing some icons improvement and adding a smooth/flat/realistic style to the skin. Yet, most of the pixmaps we have them in a mockup... that once is already done (with our idea) we gonna post here so everybody could see how will look before committing big changes. From now, i have just little time... so Lee is trying to work around the skin, and i am helping him by suggestions (till i could have some time... and i think at the end of this week) Cheers. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO
Added : - Fix SOCKS support on authentification Removed - Fix SOCKS support on authentification (thanks Phil!! :D) Modified : - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe) (make it work behind proxies) into - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe) (make it work behind proxies, replace tclsoap by http calls) Modified : - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob) into - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob) (Add the network config step and replace the 'configure webcam' button in the prefs) Modified : - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto) (make it work behind proxies) into - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto) (make it work behind proxies, replace tclsoap by http calls, finish the UI) Modified : - Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit) into - Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit) (Add a 'smart' way of packing widgets in the login screen depending on the window's size, and fix issues with 'forget me') New Complete 0.97 TODO : - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe) (make it work behind proxies, replace tclsoap by http calls) - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob) (Add the network config step and replace the 'configure webcam' button in the prefs) - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto) (make it work behind proxies, replace tclsoap by http calls, finish the UI) - Finish the new Skin - Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL - Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit) (Add a 'smart' way of packing widgets in the login screen depending on the window's size, and fix issues with 'forget me') - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] stats and next release
just to make sure everyone understands my mail correctly, this earlier mail, I sent while I was in a hurry so.. to make it clearer, I rewrite it.. Ok, would be nice if we can filter out html (hoping it doesn't bounce all mails with html), so we need a ML list admin to look into that and see if that option exists or not. The two admins for amsn-devel are alvaro and vivia, so either one of you, could you please look into it if you get time ? thank you both! p.s.: snipe's mail had html+text, but text had no newlines and html had the newlines... KaKaRoTo On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 05:45:25PM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote: can it be done ? vivia? can you look at it please ? thx On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 09:34:58PM +0100, NoWhereMan wrote: Youness Alaoui wrote: bastard.. I hate you :@ DISABLE SEND AS HTML IN YOUR MAIL EDITOR... me and phil, both received it in one look.. take a look for yourself ... [snip] actually, why don't you set the ML to filter out HTML from messages? I did it for mine... it's quite annoying to see html and non-html messages all mixed up bye - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] stats and next release
Right now the option is enabled: Should Mailman convert text/html parts to plain text? This conversion happens after MIME attachments have been stripped. = Yes Maybe the conversion is not good? Should we try disabling it? Greets. On 3/12/07, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just to make sure everyone understands my mail correctly, this earlier mail, I sent while I was in a hurry so.. to make it clearer, I rewrite it.. Ok, would be nice if we can filter out html (hoping it doesn't bounce all mails with html), so we need a ML list admin to look into that and see if that option exists or not. The two admins for amsn-devel are alvaro and vivia, so either one of you, could you please look into it if you get time ? thank you both! p.s.: snipe's mail had html+text, but text had no newlines and html had the newlines... KaKaRoTo On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 05:45:25PM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote: can it be done ? vivia? can you look at it please ? thx On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 09:34:58PM +0100, NoWhereMan wrote: Youness Alaoui wrote: bastard.. I hate you :@ DISABLE SEND AS HTML IN YOUR MAIL EDITOR... me and phil, both received it in one look.. take a look for yourself ... [snip] actually, why don't you set the ML to filter out HTML from messages? I did it for mine... it's quite annoying to see html and non-html messages all mixed up bye - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- (:===:) Alvaro J. Iradier Muro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] stats and next release
humm.. yeah, maybe that's why it stripped out the newlines... I prefer not to disable it, otherwise, I'll probably just see a bunch of html tags.. we have two choices : 1 - snipe stops using html emails!! :@ 2 - we report it to SF so they can fix their mailman I choose both solutions! :D Thanks Alvaro for taking care of it. KKRT On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 11:37:16PM +0100, Álvaro J. Iradier wrote: Right now the option is enabled: Should Mailman convert text/html parts to plain text? This conversion happens after MIME attachments have been stripped. = Yes Maybe the conversion is not good? Should we try disabling it? Greets. On 3/12/07, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just to make sure everyone understands my mail correctly, this earlier mail, I sent while I was in a hurry so.. to make it clearer, I rewrite it.. Ok, would be nice if we can filter out html (hoping it doesn't bounce all mails with html), so we need a ML list admin to look into that and see if that option exists or not. The two admins for amsn-devel are alvaro and vivia, so either one of you, could you please look into it if you get time ? thank you both! p.s.: snipe's mail had html+text, but text had no newlines and html had the newlines... KaKaRoTo On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 05:45:25PM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote: can it be done ? vivia? can you look at it please ? thx On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 09:34:58PM +0100, NoWhereMan wrote: Youness Alaoui wrote: bastard.. I hate you :@ DISABLE SEND AS HTML IN YOUR MAIL EDITOR... me and phil, both received it in one look.. take a look for yourself ... [snip] actually, why don't you set the ML to filter out HTML from messages? I did it for mine... it's quite annoying to see html and non-html messages all mixed up bye - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- (:===:) Alvaro J. Iradier Muro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO
Modified : - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe) (make it work behind proxies, replace tclsoap by http calls) into - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe) (make sure it works behind proxies) Modified - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto) (make it work behind proxies, replace tclsoap by http calls, finish the UI) into - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto) (make sure it works behind proxies, finish the UI) New Complete 0.97 TODO : - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe) (make sure it works behind proxies) - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob) (Add the network config step and replace the 'configure webcam' button in the prefs) - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto) (make sure it works behind proxies, finish the UI) - Finish the new Skin - Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL - Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit) (Add a 'smart' way of packing widgets in the login screen depending on the window's size, and fix issues with 'forget me') - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO :: network settings ?
I'm gonna answer here to be quick; Why is there a network step in the Webcam assistant ? From a user's point of view it doesn't belong there at all. Network settings are for aMSN as a whole. If you want the assistant to be more like a set up aMSN for usage assistant instead of for webcam/audio only, then it has to be called otherwise and not as Edit AV settings... from a menu. I'd vote for a network tab in preferences instead where all network-stuff would be placed. We already have some of those network settings in the preferences window. Maybe on the last page of teh webcam assistant there could be a phrase like If you have problems with connecting, check your amsn _network_ settings. Also, can we get some info about network settings (proxies for example) from out desktop environment (windows registry, gnome's gconf, kde, mac ?) Karel. 2007/3/12, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Added : - Fix SOCKS support on authentification Removed - Fix SOCKS support on authentification (thanks Phil!! :D) Modified : - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe) (make it work behind proxies) into - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe) (make it work behind proxies, replace tclsoap by http calls) Modified : - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob) into - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob) (Add the network config step and replace the 'configure webcam' button in the prefs) Modified : - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto) (make it work behind proxies) into - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto) (make it work behind proxies, replace tclsoap by http calls, finish the UI) Modified : - Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit) into - Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit) (Add a 'smart' way of packing widgets in the login screen depending on the window's size, and fix issues with 'forget me') New Complete 0.97 TODO : - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe) (make it work behind proxies, replace tclsoap by http calls) - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob) (Add the network config step and replace the 'configure webcam' button in the prefs) - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto) (make it work behind proxies, replace tclsoap by http calls, finish the UI) - Finish the new Skin - Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL - Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit) (Add a 'smart' way of packing widgets in the login screen depending on the window's size, and fix issues with 'forget me') - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.97 TODO :: network settings ?
On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 07:44 +0100, Karel Demeyer wrote: I'm gonna answer here to be quick; Why is there a network step in the Webcam assistant ? From a user's point of view it doesn't belong there at all. Network settings are for aMSN as a whole. If you want the assistant to be more like a set up aMSN for usage assistant instead of for webcam/audio only, then it has to be called otherwise and not as Edit AV settings... from a menu. I'd vote for a network tab in preferences instead where all network-stuff would be placed. We already have some of those network settings in the preferences window. Maybe on the last page of teh webcam assistant there could be a phrase like If you have problems with connecting, check your amsn _network_ settings. Also, can we get some info about network settings (proxies for example) from out desktop environment (windows registry, gnome's gconf, kde, mac ?) Karel. Yes, with autoproxy: http://wiki.tcl.tk/2879 (i think, have to go to work now) - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
