well then, use the random function, to randomly highlight one of the plugins that will show on top
On Mon, 2007-03-12 at 16:23 -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote: > lol.. almost... > well, it's a problem... if we really want it to have a meaning, we'll have to > add a 'vote for this skin/plugin' > system.. :s > but then, it still won't give a chance to smaller/newer skins/plugins > > > KKRT > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 09:08:20PM +0100, Philippe Valembois - Phil wrote: > > Youness Alaoui a écrit : > > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 06:33:27PM +0100, Philippe Valembois - Phil wrote: > > >> Hi, > > >> this mail is about the OIM system and stats... > > >> First, OIMs. We all agree that TclSOAP isn't good at all currently... > > >> But using http isn't as easy as Youness said because in fact we won't > > >> use it... (Yeah that's bad I know) Because Http extension can't use > > >> SOCKS proxies... So we will need to implement several things based on > > >> the authentication way... > > > > > > Ok, those who were going crazy of what phil said, calm down, we found a > > > solution to socks +http, and we'll use > > > it ,so http package will still be used ;) > > > > > >> Second, about the stats... Youness decided to publish them here... Great > > >> but the main aim wasn't to keep it secret... I just missed of time to > > >> implement it in the new website and in addition, the stats weren't valid > > >> in the first days... Now, they seem to be stable... > > > nah, never meant to be secret, it was just placed somewhere where you > > > need a username/password. which is why I > > > published, until we put it public... > > > > > >> Anyway one trouble remains, the sorting of all these skins/plugins... > > >> How can we achieve an efficient sorting. I mean that if we sort plugins > > >> by downloads it will make these more downloaded and good unknown skins > > >> will never be at the top... > > > hehe, exactly what I was thinking too :p > > > > > >> If someone has an idea... > > > don't know.. maybe keep sorted by name, but add a 'view top 5' or 'view > > > top 10' link.. > > Didn't you notice that the TOP5 skins is composed with skins beginning > > by a ? ;) > > > > > >> Phil > > >> > > >> Youness Alaoui a écrit : > > >>> Hello all, > > >>> first I'll talk about the next release (0.97) then I'll give you some > > >>> stats that we get from our website, thanks > > >>> to lePhilousophe! > > >>> so.. what about the next release ? huh ? well, it's taking too much > > >>> time.. at the speed we're at, it will take > > >>> a really long time before we get it out, although we're "almost" > > >>> there.. the original deadline was april 1st, > > >>> then I made it march 1st seeing how fast development was, then it > > >>> stalled.. so I hope we still get amsn out for > > >>> april 1st, ok ? so what's left for us ? > > >>> well, here's the latest TODO list for the next release : > > >>> New Complete 0.97 TODO : > > >>> - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) > > >>> (billiob/lephilousophe) > > >>> (make it work behind proxies)[1;5F > > >>> - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob) > > >>> - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto) > > >>> (make it work behind proxies) > > >>> - Finish the new Skin > > >>> - Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL > > >>> - Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit) > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> I want to talk about each one of them one by one.. first : > > >>> - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) > > >>> (billiob/lephilousophe) > > >>> (make it work behind proxies) > > >>> So far, the OIM support seems to be COMPLETE, although the use of > > >>> tclsoap makes it very very slow, so I wonder > > >>> if we should replace tclsoap with using the http command directly, > > >>> because we use NOTHING from tclsoap, lol, we > > >>> generate the whole xml ourself, and we parse the whole response > > >>> ourself, so.. it's useless apart from adding an > > >>> incredibly huge overhead AND preventing us from adding proxy support.. > > >>> so yes, the second point is that even if it's complete, we still don't > > >>> have support for proxies because it seems > > >>> almost impossible to do with tclsoap.. > > >>> so the question is : > > >>> 1 - we keep it as is, screw the proxy people, and screw those who think > > >>> that the pc freezing for a few minutes > > >>> is a big deal > > >>> 2 - rewrtie it, replacing 'tclsoap:;create' by 'http::geturl' ? > > >>> > > >>> - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob) > > >>> This seems to be finished and working pretty well! congrats on billiob! > > >>> now the thing is that we'll have to > > >>> integrate it with the prefs window, right now, it's in the chat > > >>> window->edit->edit a/v settings, but the old > > >>> webcam wizard is stil lin the prefs->other->configure webcam. > > >>> we couldn't replace it because that configure webcam still ha sinfo > > >>> about whether you're firewalled or not, > > >>> etc.. so we could either : > > >>> 1 - replace the 'configure webcam' by the a/v settings and leave the > > >>> firewall thing elsewhere > > >>> 3 - leve the 'configure webcam' but change the webcam wizard (through > > >>> the button 'change webcam settings') by > > >>> the assistant > > >>> 2 - add a new step for network capabilities in the assistant and > > >>> replace the whole configure webcam button. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto) > > >>> (make it work behind proxies) > > >>> well well.. this seems to be completely stalled.. so .. what do we want > > >>> to do now : > > >>> 1- drop the feature > > >>> 2 - complete it > > >>> 3- leave it half-way done > > >>> 4 - make it 'usable' but not 'wow it's great' > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> - Finish the new Skin > > >>> humm.. it looks good so far ? I suppose Gus has kept all the comments > > >>> in his own TODO list, so I don't know how > > >>> far we're away from completing the new skin.. for now, let's try and > > >>> make it 'look nice', I like it very much > > >>> the way it is right now, apart from the colors/bg and when the status > > >>> (away) is in grey and the bg behind it > > >>> grey, you can't see the status of a user, etc... so maybe just work on > > >>> that.. > > >>> So, could Gus or Lee give us a status report on this please ? thanks > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> - Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL > > >>> this is already done, we only need to add a one liner :checkbutton $w > > >>> -variable [::config::getvar > > >>> orderuserbystatus] > > >>> the questionis WHERE TO PUT IT? advanced pref? the 'view' menu ? where > > >>> ? > > >>> > > >>> - Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit) > > >>> > > >>> yeay!! it looks almost complete, a few small issues, especially the > > >>> 'forget me' and the placing of the elements, > > >>> depending on the size of the main window, it's great work so far, let's > > >>> hope it gets finished soon! > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> In other words, I see that we almost finished, if we all take a few > > >>> minutes someday and try to work on the TODO > > >>> stuff instead of working on non-TODO related things (or watching tv :p) > > >>> thenw e could be able to get 0.97 out > > >>> really soon! so what do you suggest guys (+viv:p) ? I asked a few > > >>> questions/options for some todo items above, > > >>> could everyone try to give their opinions on those things ? this way we > > >>> can sort out the TODO list and make it > > >>> smaller until we get 0.97 in a usable state.. > > >>> thanks all for reading this! > > >>> > > >>> Now, my second part of my mail (smaller this time, don't worry :p) is > > >>> that, a couple of days ago (maybe a week > > >>> ago?) Phil modified the website and added statistics to every file > > >>> downloaded by the user, so now, we have a > > >>> count on how many downloads we got per plugin and per skin and per > > >>> screenshot.. the results are quite > > >>> interesting, but to access the stats, you need to have admin access to > > >>> the website, so I thought it would be > > >>> nice to share this information to you guys too.. > > >>> ok, I just checked amsn-commits and Phil added the feat on March 5th, > > >>> so it's been exactly a week.. so one week > > >>> of stats, give us this : > > >>> > > >>> <snip> > > >>> > > >>> So congrats to the skin developers and plugin developers who scored > > >>> top10 :) > > >>> > > >>> that's all for today! > > >>> > > >>> p.s.: if you reply to this mail, don't just say 'wow, cool stats', at > > >>> least time the time to answer my questions > > >>> about the TODO! > > >>> > > >>> KaKaRoTo > > >> > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> Take Surveys. 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