lol.. almost... well, it's a problem... if we really want it to have a meaning, we'll have to add a 'vote for this skin/plugin' system.. :s but then, it still won't give a chance to smaller/newer skins/plugins
KKRT On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 09:08:20PM +0100, Philippe Valembois - Phil wrote: > Youness Alaoui a écrit : > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 06:33:27PM +0100, Philippe Valembois - Phil wrote: > >> Hi, > >> this mail is about the OIM system and stats... > >> First, OIMs. We all agree that TclSOAP isn't good at all currently... > >> But using http isn't as easy as Youness said because in fact we won't > >> use it... (Yeah that's bad I know) Because Http extension can't use > >> SOCKS proxies... So we will need to implement several things based on > >> the authentication way... > > > > Ok, those who were going crazy of what phil said, calm down, we found a > > solution to socks +http, and we'll use > > it ,so http package will still be used ;) > > > >> Second, about the stats... Youness decided to publish them here... Great > >> but the main aim wasn't to keep it secret... I just missed of time to > >> implement it in the new website and in addition, the stats weren't valid > >> in the first days... Now, they seem to be stable... > > nah, never meant to be secret, it was just placed somewhere where you need > > a username/password. which is why I > > published, until we put it public... > > > >> Anyway one trouble remains, the sorting of all these skins/plugins... > >> How can we achieve an efficient sorting. I mean that if we sort plugins > >> by downloads it will make these more downloaded and good unknown skins > >> will never be at the top... > > hehe, exactly what I was thinking too :p > > > >> If someone has an idea... > > don't know.. maybe keep sorted by name, but add a 'view top 5' or 'view top > > 10' link.. > Didn't you notice that the TOP5 skins is composed with skins beginning > by a ? ;) > > > >> Phil > >> > >> Youness Alaoui a écrit : > >>> Hello all, > >>> first I'll talk about the next release (0.97) then I'll give you some > >>> stats that we get from our website, thanks > >>> to lePhilousophe! > >>> so.. what about the next release ? huh ? well, it's taking too much > >>> time.. at the speed we're at, it will take > >>> a really long time before we get it out, although we're "almost" there.. > >>> the original deadline was april 1st, > >>> then I made it march 1st seeing how fast development was, then it > >>> stalled.. so I hope we still get amsn out for > >>> april 1st, ok ? so what's left for us ? > >>> well, here's the latest TODO list for the next release : > >>> New Complete 0.97 TODO : > >>> - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) > >>> (billiob/lephilousophe) > >>> (make it work behind proxies)[1;5F > >>> - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob) > >>> - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto) > >>> (make it work behind proxies) > >>> - Finish the new Skin > >>> - Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL > >>> - Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit) > >>> > >>> > >>> I want to talk about each one of them one by one.. first : > >>> - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) > >>> (billiob/lephilousophe) > >>> (make it work behind proxies) > >>> So far, the OIM support seems to be COMPLETE, although the use of tclsoap > >>> makes it very very slow, so I wonder > >>> if we should replace tclsoap with using the http command directly, > >>> because we use NOTHING from tclsoap, lol, we > >>> generate the whole xml ourself, and we parse the whole response ourself, > >>> so.. it's useless apart from adding an > >>> incredibly huge overhead AND preventing us from adding proxy support.. > >>> so yes, the second point is that even if it's complete, we still don't > >>> have support for proxies because it seems > >>> almost impossible to do with tclsoap.. > >>> so the question is : > >>> 1 - we keep it as is, screw the proxy people, and screw those who think > >>> that the pc freezing for a few minutes > >>> is a big deal > >>> 2 - rewrtie it, replacing 'tclsoap:;create' by 'http::geturl' ? > >>> > >>> - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob) > >>> This seems to be finished and working pretty well! congrats on billiob! > >>> now the thing is that we'll have to > >>> integrate it with the prefs window, right now, it's in the chat > >>> window->edit->edit a/v settings, but the old > >>> webcam wizard is stil lin the prefs->other->configure webcam. > >>> we couldn't replace it because that configure webcam still ha sinfo about > >>> whether you're firewalled or not, > >>> etc.. so we could either : > >>> 1 - replace the 'configure webcam' by the a/v settings and leave the > >>> firewall thing elsewhere > >>> 3 - leve the 'configure webcam' but change the webcam wizard (through the > >>> button 'change webcam settings') by > >>> the assistant > >>> 2 - add a new step for network capabilities in the assistant and replace > >>> the whole configure webcam button. > >>> > >>> > >>> - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto) > >>> (make it work behind proxies) > >>> well well.. this seems to be completely stalled.. so .. what do we want > >>> to do now : > >>> 1- drop the feature > >>> 2 - complete it > >>> 3- leave it half-way done > >>> 4 - make it 'usable' but not 'wow it's great' > >>> > >>> > >>> - Finish the new Skin > >>> humm.. it looks good so far ? I suppose Gus has kept all the comments in > >>> his own TODO list, so I don't know how > >>> far we're away from completing the new skin.. for now, let's try and make > >>> it 'look nice', I like it very much > >>> the way it is right now, apart from the colors/bg and when the status > >>> (away) is in grey and the bg behind it > >>> grey, you can't see the status of a user, etc... so maybe just work on > >>> that.. > >>> So, could Gus or Lee give us a status report on this please ? thanks > >>> > >>> > >>> - Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL > >>> this is already done, we only need to add a one liner :checkbutton $w > >>> -variable [::config::getvar > >>> orderuserbystatus] > >>> the questionis WHERE TO PUT IT? advanced pref? the 'view' menu ? where ? > >>> > >>> - Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit) > >>> > >>> yeay!! it looks almost complete, a few small issues, especially the > >>> 'forget me' and the placing of the elements, > >>> depending on the size of the main window, it's great work so far, let's > >>> hope it gets finished soon! > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> In other words, I see that we almost finished, if we all take a few > >>> minutes someday and try to work on the TODO > >>> stuff instead of working on non-TODO related things (or watching tv :p) > >>> thenw e could be able to get 0.97 out > >>> really soon! so what do you suggest guys (+viv:p) ? I asked a few > >>> questions/options for some todo items above, > >>> could everyone try to give their opinions on those things ? this way we > >>> can sort out the TODO list and make it > >>> smaller until we get 0.97 in a usable state.. > >>> thanks all for reading this! > >>> > >>> Now, my second part of my mail (smaller this time, don't worry :p) is > >>> that, a couple of days ago (maybe a week > >>> ago?) Phil modified the website and added statistics to every file > >>> downloaded by the user, so now, we have a > >>> count on how many downloads we got per plugin and per skin and per > >>> screenshot.. the results are quite > >>> interesting, but to access the stats, you need to have admin access to > >>> the website, so I thought it would be > >>> nice to share this information to you guys too.. > >>> ok, I just checked amsn-commits and Phil added the feat on March 5th, so > >>> it's been exactly a week.. so one week > >>> of stats, give us this : > >>> > >>> <snip> > >>> > >>> So congrats to the skin developers and plugin developers who scored top10 > >>> :) > >>> > >>> that's all for today! > >>> > >>> p.s.: if you reply to this mail, don't just say 'wow, cool stats', at > >>> least time the time to answer my questions > >>> about the TODO! > >>> > >>> KaKaRoTo > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> Take Surveys. Earn Cash. 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