Youness Alaoui a écrit : > On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 06:33:27PM +0100, Philippe Valembois - Phil wrote: >> Hi, >> this mail is about the OIM system and stats... >> First, OIMs. We all agree that TclSOAP isn't good at all currently... >> But using http isn't as easy as Youness said because in fact we won't >> use it... (Yeah that's bad I know) Because Http extension can't use >> SOCKS proxies... So we will need to implement several things based on >> the authentication way... > > Ok, those who were going crazy of what phil said, calm down, we found a > solution to socks +http, and we'll use > it ,so http package will still be used ;) > >> Second, about the stats... Youness decided to publish them here... Great >> but the main aim wasn't to keep it secret... I just missed of time to >> implement it in the new website and in addition, the stats weren't valid >> in the first days... Now, they seem to be stable... > nah, never meant to be secret, it was just placed somewhere where you need a > username/password. which is why I > published, until we put it public... > >> Anyway one trouble remains, the sorting of all these skins/plugins... >> How can we achieve an efficient sorting. I mean that if we sort plugins >> by downloads it will make these more downloaded and good unknown skins >> will never be at the top... > hehe, exactly what I was thinking too :p > >> If someone has an idea... > don't know.. maybe keep sorted by name, but add a 'view top 5' or 'view top > 10' link.. Didn't you notice that the TOP5 skins is composed with skins beginning by a ? ;) > >> Phil >> >> Youness Alaoui a écrit : >>> Hello all, >>> first I'll talk about the next release (0.97) then I'll give you some stats >>> that we get from our website, thanks >>> to lePhilousophe! >>> so.. what about the next release ? huh ? well, it's taking too much time.. >>> at the speed we're at, it will take >>> a really long time before we get it out, although we're "almost" there.. >>> the original deadline was april 1st, >>> then I made it march 1st seeing how fast development was, then it stalled.. >>> so I hope we still get amsn out for >>> april 1st, ok ? so what's left for us ? >>> well, here's the latest TODO list for the next release : >>> New Complete 0.97 TODO : >>> - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe) >>> (make it work behind proxies)[1;5F >>> - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob) >>> - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto) >>> (make it work behind proxies) >>> - Finish the new Skin >>> - Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL >>> - Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit) >>> >>> >>> I want to talk about each one of them one by one.. first : >>> - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe) >>> (make it work behind proxies) >>> So far, the OIM support seems to be COMPLETE, although the use of tclsoap >>> makes it very very slow, so I wonder >>> if we should replace tclsoap with using the http command directly, because >>> we use NOTHING from tclsoap, lol, we >>> generate the whole xml ourself, and we parse the whole response ourself, >>> so.. it's useless apart from adding an >>> incredibly huge overhead AND preventing us from adding proxy support.. >>> so yes, the second point is that even if it's complete, we still don't have >>> support for proxies because it seems >>> almost impossible to do with tclsoap.. >>> so the question is : >>> 1 - we keep it as is, screw the proxy people, and screw those who think >>> that the pc freezing for a few minutes >>> is a big deal >>> 2 - rewrtie it, replacing 'tclsoap:;create' by 'http::geturl' ? >>> >>> - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob) >>> This seems to be finished and working pretty well! congrats on billiob! now >>> the thing is that we'll have to >>> integrate it with the prefs window, right now, it's in the chat >>> window->edit->edit a/v settings, but the old >>> webcam wizard is stil lin the prefs->other->configure webcam. >>> we couldn't replace it because that configure webcam still ha sinfo about >>> whether you're firewalled or not, >>> etc.. so we could either : >>> 1 - replace the 'configure webcam' by the a/v settings and leave the >>> firewall thing elsewhere >>> 3 - leve the 'configure webcam' but change the webcam wizard (through the >>> button 'change webcam settings') by >>> the assistant >>> 2 - add a new step for network capabilities in the assistant and replace >>> the whole configure webcam button. >>> >>> >>> - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto) >>> (make it work behind proxies) >>> well well.. this seems to be completely stalled.. so .. what do we want to >>> do now : >>> 1- drop the feature >>> 2 - complete it >>> 3- leave it half-way done >>> 4 - make it 'usable' but not 'wow it's great' >>> >>> >>> - Finish the new Skin >>> humm.. it looks good so far ? I suppose Gus has kept all the comments in >>> his own TODO list, so I don't know how >>> far we're away from completing the new skin.. for now, let's try and make >>> it 'look nice', I like it very much >>> the way it is right now, apart from the colors/bg and when the status >>> (away) is in grey and the bg behind it >>> grey, you can't see the status of a user, etc... so maybe just work on >>> that.. >>> So, could Gus or Lee give us a status report on this please ? thanks >>> >>> >>> - Add option to order contacts by status or not in the CL >>> this is already done, we only need to add a one liner :checkbutton $w >>> -variable [::config::getvar >>> orderuserbystatus] >>> the questionis WHERE TO PUT IT? advanced pref? the 'view' menu ? where ? >>> >>> - Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722) (bluetit) >>> >>> yeay!! it looks almost complete, a few small issues, especially the 'forget >>> me' and the placing of the elements, >>> depending on the size of the main window, it's great work so far, let's >>> hope it gets finished soon! >>> >>> >>> >>> In other words, I see that we almost finished, if we all take a few minutes >>> someday and try to work on the TODO >>> stuff instead of working on non-TODO related things (or watching tv :p) >>> thenw e could be able to get 0.97 out >>> really soon! so what do you suggest guys (+viv:p) ? I asked a few >>> questions/options for some todo items above, >>> could everyone try to give their opinions on those things ? this way we can >>> sort out the TODO list and make it >>> smaller until we get 0.97 in a usable state.. >>> thanks all for reading this! >>> >>> Now, my second part of my mail (smaller this time, don't worry :p) is that, >>> a couple of days ago (maybe a week >>> ago?) Phil modified the website and added statistics to every file >>> downloaded by the user, so now, we have a >>> count on how many downloads we got per plugin and per skin and per >>> screenshot.. the results are quite >>> interesting, but to access the stats, you need to have admin access to the >>> website, so I thought it would be >>> nice to share this information to you guys too.. >>> ok, I just checked amsn-commits and Phil added the feat on March 5th, so >>> it's been exactly a week.. so one week >>> of stats, give us this : >>> >>> <snip> >>> >>> So congrats to the skin developers and plugin developers who scored top10 >>> :) >>> >>> that's all for today! >>> >>> p.s.: if you reply to this mail, don't just say 'wow, cool stats', at least >>> time the time to answer my questions >>> about the TODO! >>> >>> KaKaRoTo >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Take Surveys. Earn Cash. 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