Hi all,So let's answer some of KKRT's questions: 1) OIM: > 1 - we keep it as
is, screw the proxy people, and screw those who think that the pc freezing for
a few minutes is a big deal> 2 - rewrtie it, replacing 'tclsoap:;create' by
'http::geturl' ? -->I'm not a dev, but the answer seems obvious: option 2,
replace tclsoap. It's true OIMs are really too slow, many people will report it
as a 'bug', complaining on the forum or whatever. 2) Audio/Video Assistant:> 1
- replace the 'configure webcam' by the a/v settings and leave the firewall
thing elsewhere> 2 - add a new step for network capabilities in the assistant
and replace the whole configure webcam button.
> 3 - leve the 'configure webcam' but change the webcam wizard (through the
> button 'change webcam settings') by the assistant -->Well, I'm not using any
> webcam, so I really dunno about this feature. Let's move to the next
> question: 3) MSN Spaces:> 1 - drop the feature> 2 - complete it > 3 - leave
> it half-way done > 4 - make it 'usable' but not 'wow it's great' -->I also
> think this feature should be available for 0.97, because so many users want
> aMSN to be a clone of MSN/WLM, that if they saw it incomplete they would
> dislike aMSN, and most of them want such a feature. Now (and it's the same
> for every question I answer here), I'm not a dev, I'm speaking as an user...
> 4) Skin:--> Gus' and Lee's job, so next question: 5) Order contacts by
> status:> advanced pref?> the 'view' menu ?> where ? --> I find it obvious to
> put it in View Menu, with the rest of "Order by..." lines. I don't see why we
> should put it elsewhere... It would really confuse users, that are already a
> bit lost in all the prefs (especially Advanced)! 6) About Log-in Screen: -->
> There were no question, but I would like to give my opinion about it (updated
> to rev 8200):Very nice feature, as I already said :)Two things I noticed: a)
> the length of the field for e-mail adress/password/status is huuuuuge
> compared to the length of anything else... Any reason I would have missed for
> this? b) The forget_me button... I REALLY dislike this: it WILL cause many
> problems to the users!! As KKRT said earlier, thousands of people just click
> "OK" when a windows pop-up, without looking at it. Of course, we need to
> allow the user to delete an account inside aMSN, but it shouldn't be there...
> In the Prefs, or perhaps better: in the "Account" menu of the user, so that
> no one can delete the account of someone (via aMSN of course) from the common
> log-in screen. Or anything else, I dunno... But imagine a family of 3
> children, where there's a little boy of 12 years old, that'll push this
> button "just to see", and delete all accounts... That's why I find it should
> be "hidden". Just MHO of course. 7) What about the stats: great idea :DI
> always wondered if something like this existed :P Does someone have an idea
> of the amount of people using aMSN over the world?I noticed one thing: aMSN
> Plus! is the plug-in with the most downloads... And we all know how buggy it
> is, and how much users encounter troubles because of it.Shouldn't we do
> something about it? Enhance the code, doesn't allow it to be downloaded
> again, create a new plug-in allowing the features currently "supported" by
> aMSN Plus! ? Anything else?> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:48:53 -0400> To:
> amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:
> [Amsn-devel] stats and next release> > Hello all,> first I'll talk about the
> next release (0.97) then I'll give you some stats that we get from our
> website, thanks > to lePhilousophe! > so.. what about the next release ? huh
> ? well, it's taking too much time.. at the speed we're at, it will take > a
> really long time before we get it out, although we're "almost" there.. the
> original deadline was april 1st, > then I made it march 1st seeing how fast
> development was, then it stalled.. so I hope we still get amsn out for >
> april 1st, ok ? so what's left for us ?> well, here's the latest TODO list
> for the next release :> New Complete 0.97 TODO :> - Implement OIM support
> (task # 133878 and # 135637) (billiob/lephilousophe)> (make it work behind
> proxies)[1;5F> - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob)> -
> Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)> (make
> it work behind proxies)> - Finish the new Skin> - Add option to order
> contacts by status or not in the CL> - Complete the new login_screen feature
> (task # 136722) (bluetit)> > > I want to talk about each one of them one by
> one.. first :> - Implement OIM support (task # 133878 and # 135637)
> (billiob/lephilousophe)> (make it work behind proxies)> So far, the OIM
> support seems to be COMPLETE, although the use of tclsoap makes it very very
> slow, so I wonder > if we should replace tclsoap with using the http command
> directly, because we use NOTHING from tclsoap, lol, we > generate the whole
> xml ourself, and we parse the whole response ourself, so.. it's useless apart
> from adding an > incredibly huge overhead AND preventing us from adding proxy
> support..> so yes, the second point is that even if it's complete, we still
> don't have support for proxies because it seems > almost impossible to do
> with tclsoap.. > so the question is :> 1 - we keep it as is, screw the proxy
> people, and screw those who think that the pc freezing for a few minutes > is
> a big deal> 2 - rewrtie it, replacing 'tclsoap:;create' by 'http::geturl' ? >
> > - Finish the audio/video assitant (task # 124048) (billiob)> This seems to
> be finished and working pretty well! congrats on billiob! now the thing is
> that we'll have to > integrate it with the prefs window, right now, it's in
> the chat window->edit->edit a/v settings, but the old > webcam wizard is stil
> lin the prefs->other->configure webcam.> we couldn't replace it because that
> configure webcam still ha sinfo about whether you're firewalled or not, >
> etc.. so we could either :> 1 - replace the 'configure webcam' by the a/v
> settings and leave the firewall thing elsewhere> 3 - leve the 'configure
> webcam' but change the webcam wizard (through the button 'change webcam
> settings') by > the assistant> 2 - add a new step for network capabilities in
> the assistant and replace the whole configure webcam button.> > > - Finish
> support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/kakaroto)> (make it
> work behind proxies)> well well.. this seems to be completely stalled.. so ..
> what do we want to do now :> 1- drop the feature> 2 - complete it > 3- leave
> it half-way done > 4 - make it 'usable' but not 'wow it's great' > > > -
> Finish the new Skin> humm.. it looks good so far ? I suppose Gus has kept all
> the comments in his own TODO list, so I don't know how > far we're away from
> completing the new skin.. for now, let's try and make it 'look nice', I like
> it very much > the way it is right now, apart from the colors/bg and when the
> status (away) is in grey and the bg behind it > grey, you can't see the
> status of a user, etc... so maybe just work on that.. > So, could Gus or Lee
> give us a status report on this please ? thanks> > > - Add option to order
> contacts by status or not in the CL> this is already done, we only need to
> add a one liner :checkbutton $w -variable [::config::getvar >
> orderuserbystatus]> the questionis WHERE TO PUT IT? advanced pref? the 'view'
> menu ? where ? > > - Complete the new login_screen feature (task # 136722)
> (bluetit)> > yeay!! it looks almost complete, a few small issues, especially
> the 'forget me' and the placing of the elements, > depending on the size of
> the main window, it's great work so far, let's hope it gets finished soon! >
> > > > In other words, I see that we almost finished, if we all take a few
> minutes someday and try to work on the TODO > stuff instead of working on
> non-TODO related things (or watching tv :p) thenw e could be able to get 0.97
> out > really soon! so what do you suggest guys (+viv:p) ? I asked a few
> questions/options for some todo items above, > could everyone try to give
> their opinions on those things ? this way we can sort out the TODO list and
> make it > smaller until we get 0.97 in a usable state.. > thanks all for
> reading this! > > Now, my second part of my mail (smaller this time, don't
> worry :p) is that, a couple of days ago (maybe a week > ago?) Phil modified
> the website and added statistics to every file downloaded by the user, so
> now, we have a > count on how many downloads we got per plugin and per skin
> and per screenshot.. the results are quite > interesting, but to access the
> stats, you need to have admin access to the website, so I thought it would be
> > nice to share this information to you guys too..> ok, I just checked
> amsn-commits and Phil added the feat on March 5th, so it's been exactly a
> week.. so one week > of stats, give us this :> > Skins statistics> Name
> Count> aMSN Live! 2207> aMSN Vista Futurosoft 1606> WinMSN7 889>
> aMSN for Mac 764> Aqua Skin 704> aDarwin 624> Clearlooks 482> aMSN
> Candy 437> Tux 410> Stylish-brushed 393> Emerald 373> Brushed
> Metal 348> Tiger Xi skin v1.0 336> Ubuntu (Human) 320> Ubuntu
> 283> Kubuntu 243> No Name 238> Parti-Pirate 214> C12's Dapper
> Theme 210> Aquaish 209> nilo-skin v0.2 205> franto2 203> Catalunya
> Skin 201> Astaroth's Skin 194> Windows Classic Theme 175>
> Clearlooks BigIcon mod 166> F.C. Barcelona Skin 155> Unified
> 143> Haudrey 132> pmdzskin 111> Ixtus 109> Snow Grey 102> >
> Plugins statistics> Name Count> aMSN Plus! 1953> Music 971>
> DualDisplayPicture 829> BigSmileys 603> Desktop Integration 558>
> Chameleon 428> amsnEliza 312> WinSkin 261> GNotify 256> Invisibility
> 226> Address Book 225> msntranslator 223> Games Plugin
> 207> Colorize 203> Remind 198> SendDraw 197> userstatus 197> Faking
> It! 166> SpellCheck 166> POP3 154> Emotes 142> Say It 141>
> BugBuddy 132> AutoReplace 126> Growl 123> Minimizer 114>
> Organize Received 108> What Is 107> DBus Viewer 90> GLogs
> 88> TeXIM 86> Gename 77> Drae 76> FPSstats 65> MacRise
> 61> MoveWin 59> Changeit 55> > Screenshots statistics> Name
> Count> Auto-message 1795> Webcam 452> Main Windows 241> Friendly
> names 173> Smiley chooser 155> Display Picture thumbnails 136>
> Personal Messages 129> Preferences 116> > > > So congrats to the skin
> developers and plugin developers who scored top10 :) > > that's all for
> today!> > p.s.: if you reply to this mail, don't just say 'wow, cool stats',
> at least time the time to answer my questions > about the TODO! > >
> KaKaRoTo> >
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