Re: [Amsn-devel] Bug on start
Okay, sorry :) I do normally read the forums. Although I checked there after you suggested it and found nothing :S Oh well, I'll update my tcl/tk later today. Thanks! Tom ps: Are you calling me INACTIVE? :@ Well, I am, so I suppose I can't complain... :D On 27/05/07, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forums ? :d In some words, update your tcl/tk to 8.5a6 or better Even inactive devels should read forums :d Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Error in startup script: extra characters after close-brace while executing set command [list $self {*}$Snit_optionInfo(configure-$option) $option] (procedure snit::RT.CacheConfigureCommand line 36) invoked from within snit::RT.CacheConfigureCommand $type $selfns $win $self $option (procedure ::snit::RT.method.configurelist line 7) invoked from within ::snit::RT.method.configurelist $type $selfns $win $self $args (procedure ::snit::RT.method.configure line 4) invoked from within $self configure -width $arrow1width (procedure ::pixmapscrollbar::Snit_constructor line 154) invoked from within ::pixmapscrollbar::Snit_constructor ::pixmapscrollbar ::pixmapscrollbar::Snit_inst1 .plugins_log.ys .plugins_log.ys -command {.plugins_log.info yview} (eval body line 1) invoked from within eval [linsert $arglist 0 ${type}::Snit_constructor $type $selfns $instance $instance] (procedure RT.ConstructInstance line 9) invoked from within RT.ConstructInstance $type $selfns $name $args (procedure ::snit::RT.widget.typemethod.create line 53) invoked from within scrollbar $window.ys -command $window.info yview (procedure ::pluginslog::draw line 12) invoked from within ::pluginslog::draw invoked from within if { $initialize_amsn == 1 } { ::pluginslog::draw } (file pluginslog.tcl line 210) invoked from within source pluginslog.tcl (uplevel body line 27) invoked from within uplevel \#0 { # amsncore.tcl is already loaded but we'll re-source it here in case we manually do reload_files source amsncore.tcl source audio.tc... (procedure reload_files line 2) invoked from within reload_files (file ./amsn line 250) - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO
Is there any chance of a 'download manager' being added to the TODO? Cause I'd be wiling to work on that :) Tom On 11/05/07, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'll start this new thread about the 0.98 TODO. It is still very small now, and I hope it will get expanded with time. The 0.97 TODO is complete, 0.97 RC1 will be released soon (once we get the new smiley set lordzak/ubitux is doing), and we'll make a branch and start working on 0.98. So here's my current TODO list : - HIGH PRI : Implement the new preferences window - Implement a new chat window widget in snit with totally modular code and using events. - very nice idea : be able to record a message to be sent as voiceclip in the custom status/autoaway message : (http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272) - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO
I mean FT Manager of course... On 28/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any chance of a 'download manager' being added to the TODO? Cause I'd be wiling to work on that :) Tom On 11/05/07, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'll start this new thread about the 0.98 TODO. It is still very small now, and I hope it will get expanded with time. The 0.97 TODO is complete, 0.97 RC1 will be released soon (once we get the new smiley set lordzak/ubitux is doing), and we'll make a branch and start working on 0.98. So here's my current TODO list : - HIGH PRI : Implement the new preferences window - Implement a new chat window widget in snit with totally modular code and using events. - very nice idea : be able to record a message to be sent as voiceclip in the custom status/autoaway message : (http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272 ) - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO
That was intended to come with total rewrite of the new ChatWindow : so yes it is planned ;) Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : I mean FT Manager of course... On 28/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any chance of a 'download manager' being added to the TODO? Cause I'd be wiling to work on that :) Tom On 11/05/07, *Youness Alaoui * [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'll start this new thread about the 0.98 TODO. It is still very small now, and I hope it will get expanded with time. The 0.97 TODO is complete, 0.97 RC1 will be released soon (once we get the new smiley set lordzak/ubitux is doing), and we'll make a branch and start working on 0.98. So here's my current TODO list : - HIGH PRI : Implement the new preferences window - Implement a new chat window widget in snit with totally modular code and using events. - very nice idea : be able to record a message to be sent as voiceclip in the custom status/autoaway message : ( http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272 http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272) - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO
I think this is a very good idea. Would be better than 1 window per FT. An alternative would be, to integrate the progress indication for FT into the chat window. (a progressbar etc. in the notification message that an FT invitation was sent). Op 28-mei-2007, om 11:25 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende geschreven: I mean FT Manager of course... On 28/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any chance of a 'download manager' being added to the TODO? Cause I'd be wiling to work on that :) Tom On 11/05/07, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'll start this new thread about the 0.98 TODO. It is still very small now, and I hope it will get expanded with time. The 0.97 TODO is complete, 0.97 RC1 will be released soon (once we get the new smiley set lordzak/ubitux is doing), and we'll make a branch and start working on 0.98. So here's my current TODO list : - HIGH PRI : Implement the new preferences window - Implement a new chat window widget in snit with totally modular code and using events. - very nice idea : be able to record a message to be sent as voiceclip in the custom status/autoaway message : ( http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272 ) -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO
Ow, hehe this one came in while I was typing my other message... But nice it's planned :-) Op 28-mei-2007, om 12:35 heeft Philippe Valembois - Phil het volgende geschreven: That was intended to come with total rewrite of the new ChatWindow : so yes it is planned ;) Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : I mean FT Manager of course... On 28/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any chance of a 'download manager' being added to the TODO? Cause I'd be wiling to work on that :) Tom On 11/05/07, *Youness Alaoui * [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'll start this new thread about the 0.98 TODO. It is still very small now, and I hope it will get expanded with time. The 0.97 TODO is complete, 0.97 RC1 will be released soon (once we get the new smiley set lordzak/ubitux is doing), and we'll make a branch and start working on 0.98. So here's my current TODO list : - HIGH PRI : Implement the new preferences window - Implement a new chat window widget in snit with totally modular code and using events. - very nice idea : be able to record a message to be sent as voiceclip in the custom status/autoaway message : ( http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272 http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272) - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - --- - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ - --- ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO
Nooo ! ;) This idea from MSN is really bad : we always lost our FTs when we are in a deep conversation with someone. The FT Manager let us to see exactly what we have donloaded and so on... Phil Harry Vennik a écrit : I think this is a very good idea. Would be better than 1 window per FT. An alternative would be, to integrate the progress indication for FT into the chat window. (a progressbar etc. in the notification message that an FT invitation was sent). Op 28-mei-2007, om 11:25 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende geschreven: I mean FT Manager of course... On 28/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any chance of a 'download manager' being added to the TODO? Cause I'd be wiling to work on that :) Tom On 11/05/07, *Youness Alaoui * [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'll start this new thread about the 0.98 TODO. It is still very small now, and I hope it will get expanded with time. The 0.97 TODO is complete, 0.97 RC1 will be released soon (once we get the new smiley set lordzak/ubitux is doing), and we'll make a branch and start working on 0.98. So here's my current TODO list : - HIGH PRI : Implement the new preferences window - Implement a new chat window widget in snit with totally modular code and using events. - very nice idea : be able to record a message to be sent as voiceclip in the custom status/autoaway message : ( http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272 http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272) - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO
Idd. From a usability standpoint, I think it would be best to have all downloads in 1 FTmanager 'window', to avoid clutter and to make it overseeable. But I think it would be even better to embed this 'window' in the main amsn window to avoid clutter. In the caht window we could have a text saying (to check the status of this file transfer, see the main window). My idea is like this: | | +--+ | event log [v]| +--+ |File transfers:[-]| +--+ |Filename 1 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | [===] | | Open Cancel | | | |Filename 2 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | [===] | | Open Cancel | +--+ (watch with monospace font) when the [-] (button) is clicked, it should show: | | +--+ | event log [v]| +--+ |File transfers:[+]| +--+ (to expand again, click [+]) Ideas, suggestions ? Another idea would be to have the file transfer UI be embedded in the chatwindow, on the tab of the chat where the ft was started, but not in the conversation itself but on the right of it (where the dp of the user is). This space is not used for anything else, and this way the FT stays with the chat. As they have a link, they are easy to find this way. As FT's are not amsn's main activity and I don't see some users doing a lot of FT's together this would still be overseeable. Ideas here ? Suggestions ? Karel. 2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Nooo ! ;) This idea from MSN is really bad : we always lost our FTs when we are in a deep conversation with someone. The FT Manager let us to see exactly what we have donloaded and so on... Phil Harry Vennik a écrit : I think this is a very good idea. Would be better than 1 window per FT. An alternative would be, to integrate the progress indication for FT into the chat window. (a progressbar etc. in the notification message that an FT invitation was sent). Op 28-mei-2007, om 11:25 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende geschreven: I mean FT Manager of course... On 28/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any chance of a 'download manager' being added to the TODO? Cause I'd be wiling to work on that :) Tom On 11/05/07, *Youness Alaoui * [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'll start this new thread about the 0.98 TODO. It is still very small now, and I hope it will get expanded with time. The 0.97 TODO is complete, 0.97 RC1 will be released soon (once we get the new smiley set lordzak/ubitux is doing), and we'll make a branch and start working on 0.98. So here's my current TODO list : - HIGH PRI : Implement the new preferences window - Implement a new chat window widget in snit with totally modular code and using events. - very nice idea : be able to record a message to be sent as voiceclip in the custom status/autoaway message : ( http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272 http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272) - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now.
Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO
I would have thought about a FTManager tab in the Chat Window... Simple to make and better to see all your transfers for every Chat Putting this in Main window is silly IMO as you can't start a FT from here... Phil Karel Demeyer a écrit : Idd. From a usability standpoint, I think it would be best to have all downloads in 1 FTmanager 'window', to avoid clutter and to make it overseeable. But I think it would be even better to embed this 'window' in the main amsn window to avoid clutter. In the caht window we could have a text saying (to check the status of this file transfer, see the main window). My idea is like this: | | +--+ | event log [v]| +--+ |File transfers:[-]| +--+ |Filename 1 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | [===] | | Open Cancel | | | |Filename 2 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | [===] | | Open Cancel | +--+ (watch with monospace font) when the [-] (button) is clicked, it should show: | | +--+ | event log [v]| +--+ |File transfers:[+]| +--+ (to expand again, click [+]) Ideas, suggestions ? Another idea would be to have the file transfer UI be embedded in the chatwindow, on the tab of the chat where the ft was started, but not in the conversation itself but on the right of it (where the dp of the user is). This space is not used for anything else, and this way the FT stays with the chat. As they have a link, they are easy to find this way. As FT's are not amsn's main activity and I don't see some users doing a lot of FT's together this would still be overseeable. Ideas here ? Suggestions ? Karel. 2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Nooo ! ;) This idea from MSN is really bad : we always lost our FTs when we are in a deep conversation with someone. The FT Manager let us to see exactly what we have donloaded and so on... Phil Harry Vennik a écrit : I think this is a very good idea. Would be better than 1 window per FT. An alternative would be, to integrate the progress indication for FT into the chat window. (a progressbar etc. in the notification message that an FT invitation was sent). Op 28-mei-2007, om 11:25 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende geschreven: I mean FT Manager of course... On 28/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any chance of a 'download manager' being added to the TODO? Cause I'd be wiling to work on that :) Tom On 11/05/07, *Youness Alaoui * [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'll start this new thread about the 0.98 TODO. It is still very small now, and I hope it will get expanded with time. The 0.97 TODO is complete, 0.97 RC1 will be released soon (once we get the new smiley set lordzak/ubitux is doing), and we'll make a branch and start working on 0.98. So here's my current TODO list : - HIGH PRI : Implement the new preferences window - Implement a new chat window widget in snit with totally modular code and using events. - very nice idea : be able to record a message to be sent as voiceclip in the custom status/autoaway message : ( http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272 http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272) - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO
So in a seperate window for non-tabbed-window users and in what tabbed window for ppl who use tabs per group ? Or only have the ft's of the chats of a specific container in the FT tab of that container ? So an FT tab per container ? You can 't start FT's from that FT tab either, don't you ? Doesn't this make it more difficult to find ? Or silly ? This means I can't chat with a person and see the status of the FT on the same moment ? I think it's very much needed to be able to see the status while your chatting wityh the person who sent the file or you're sending a file to! (this can be done with both my ideas and a FT manager in a seperate window) How is it simpler to make ? The question I have when I choose between my 2 ideas, is is it needed to see all downloads in 1 place ? ... will ppl have so much FT's all together so it's a needed feature sto see 'm both ? Because I'm not yet sure of this I have two ideas. 2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would have thought about a FTManager tab in the Chat Window... Simple to make and better to see all your transfers for every Chat Putting this in Main window is silly IMO as you can't start a FT from here... Phil Karel Demeyer a écrit : Idd. From a usability standpoint, I think it would be best to have all downloads in 1 FTmanager 'window', to avoid clutter and to make it overseeable. But I think it would be even better to embed this 'window' in the main amsn window to avoid clutter. In the caht window we could have a text saying (to check the status of this file transfer, see the main window). My idea is like this: | | +--+ | event log [v]| +--+ |File transfers:[-]| +--+ |Filename 1 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | [===] | | Open Cancel | | | |Filename 2 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | [===] | | Open Cancel | +--+ (watch with monospace font) when the [-] (button) is clicked, it should show: | | +--+ | event log [v]| +--+ |File transfers:[+]| +--+ (to expand again, click [+]) Ideas, suggestions ? Another idea would be to have the file transfer UI be embedded in the chatwindow, on the tab of the chat where the ft was started, but not in the conversation itself but on the right of it (where the dp of the user is). This space is not used for anything else, and this way the FT stays with the chat. As they have a link, they are easy to find this way. As FT's are not amsn's main activity and I don't see some users doing a lot of FT's together this would still be overseeable. Ideas here ? Suggestions ? Karel. 2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Nooo ! ;) This idea from MSN is really bad : we always lost our FTs when we are in a deep conversation with someone. The FT Manager let us to see exactly what we have donloaded and so on... Phil Harry Vennik a écrit : I think this is a very good idea. Would be better than 1 window per FT. An alternative would be, to integrate the progress indication for FT into the chat window. (a progressbar etc. in the notification message that an FT invitation was sent). Op 28-mei-2007, om 11:25 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende geschreven: I mean FT Manager of course... On 28/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any chance of a 'download manager' being added to the TODO? Cause I'd be wiling to work on that :) Tom On 11/05/07, *Youness Alaoui * [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'll start this new thread about the 0.98 TODO. It is still very small now, and I hope it will get expanded with time. The 0.97 TODO is complete, 0.97 RC1 will be released soon (once we get the new smiley set lordzak/ubitux is doing), and we'll make a branch and start working on 0.98. So here's my current TODO list : - HIGH PRI : Implement the new preferences window - Implement a new chat window widget in snit with totally modular code and using events. - very nice idea : be able to record a message to be sent as voiceclip in the custom status/autoaway message : ( http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272 http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272) - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2
Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO
I agree with Karel - we should have a tab in the main window. That way, if/when we have tabbed CLs for multiple logins then it can be just another tab on the end..? Or maybe different... On 28/05/07, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So in a seperate window for non-tabbed-window users and in what tabbed window for ppl who use tabs per group ? Or only have the ft's of the chats of a specific container in the FT tab of that container ? So an FT tab per container ? You can 't start FT's from that FT tab either, don't you ? Doesn't this make it more difficult to find ? Or silly ? This means I can't chat with a person and see the status of the FT on the same moment ? I think it's very much needed to be able to see the status while your chatting wityh the person who sent the file or you're sending a file to! (this can be done with both my ideas and a FT manager in a seperate window) How is it simpler to make ? The question I have when I choose between my 2 ideas, is is it needed to see all downloads in 1 place ? ... will ppl have so much FT's all together so it's a needed feature sto see 'm both ? Because I'm not yet sure of this I have two ideas. 2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] : I would have thought about a FTManager tab in the Chat Window... Simple to make and better to see all your transfers for every Chat Putting this in Main window is silly IMO as you can't start a FT from here... Phil Karel Demeyer a écrit : Idd. From a usability standpoint, I think it would be best to have all downloads in 1 FTmanager 'window', to avoid clutter and to make it overseeable. But I think it would be even better to embed this 'window' in the main amsn window to avoid clutter. In the caht window we could have a text saying (to check the status of this file transfer, see the main window). My idea is like this: | | +--+ | event log [v]| +--+ |File transfers:[-]| +--+ |Filename 1 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | [===] | | Open Cancel | | | |Filename 2 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | [===] | | Open Cancel | +--+ (watch with monospace font) when the [-] (button) is clicked, it should show: | | +--+ | event log [v]| +--+ |File transfers:[+]| +--+ (to expand again, click [+]) Ideas, suggestions ? Another idea would be to have the file transfer UI be embedded in the chatwindow, on the tab of the chat where the ft was started, but not in the conversation itself but on the right of it (where the dp of the user is). This space is not used for anything else, and this way the FT stays with the chat. As they have a link, they are easy to find this way. As FT's are not amsn's main activity and I don't see some users doing a lot of FT's together this would still be overseeable. Ideas here ? Suggestions ? Karel. 2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Nooo ! ;) This idea from MSN is really bad : we always lost our FTs when we are in a deep conversation with someone. The FT Manager let us to see exactly what we have donloaded and so on... Phil Harry Vennik a écrit : I think this is a very good idea. Would be better than 1 window per FT. An alternative would be, to integrate the progress indication for FT into the chat window. (a progressbar etc. in the notification message that an FT invitation was sent). Op 28-mei-2007, om 11:25 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende geschreven: I mean FT Manager of course... On 28/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any chance of a 'download manager' being added to the TODO? Cause I'd be wiling to work on that :) Tom On 11/05/07, *Youness Alaoui * [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'll start this new thread about the 0.98 TODO. It is still very small now, and I hope it will get expanded with time. The 0.97 TODO is complete, 0.97 RC1 will be released soon (once we get the new smiley set lordzak/ubitux is doing), and we'll make a branch and start working on 0.98. So here's my current TODO list : - HIGH PRI : Implement the new preferences window - Implement a new chat window widget in snit with totally modular code and using events. - very nice idea : be able to record a message to be sent as voiceclip in the custom status/autoaway message : (
Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO
A tab in the main window ? I'm sure most ppl would want to see their contactlist all time while chatting. If this is true, it makes it again mpossible to chat and watch the status of the FT at the same time. Also, I dislike the idea of tabs for multiple account. All contacts of all account should be in 1 list. It's not about account', IM is about the contacts, right ? you shouldn't care what account your contact is on to reach him/her, just chat to her/him, right ? This why I wanted it underneath the contactlist in the main window (in my first idea). Karel. 2007/5/28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I agree with Karel - we should have a tab in the main window. That way, if/when we have tabbed CLs for multiple logins then it can be just another tab on the end..? Or maybe different... On 28/05/07, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So in a seperate window for non-tabbed-window users and in what tabbed window for ppl who use tabs per group ? Or only have the ft's of the chats of a specific container in the FT tab of that container ? So an FT tab per container ? You can 't start FT's from that FT tab either, don't you ? Doesn't this make it more difficult to find ? Or silly ? This means I can't chat with a person and see the status of the FT on the same moment ? I think it's very much needed to be able to see the status while your chatting wityh the person who sent the file or you're sending a file to! (this can be done with both my ideas and a FT manager in a seperate window) How is it simpler to make ? The question I have when I choose between my 2 ideas, is is it needed to see all downloads in 1 place ? ... will ppl have so much FT's all together so it's a needed feature sto see 'm both ? Because I'm not yet sure of this I have two ideas. 2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would have thought about a FTManager tab in the Chat Window... Simple to make and better to see all your transfers for every Chat Putting this in Main window is silly IMO as you can't start a FT from here... Phil Karel Demeyer a écrit : Idd. From a usability standpoint, I think it would be best to have all downloads in 1 FTmanager 'window', to avoid clutter and to make it overseeable. But I think it would be even better to embed this 'window' in the main amsn window to avoid clutter. In the caht window we could have a text saying (to check the status of this file transfer, see the main window). My idea is like this: | | +--+ | event log [v]| +--+ |File transfers:[-]| +--+ |Filename 1 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | [===] | | Open Cancel | | | |Filename 2 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | [===] | | Open Cancel | +--+ (watch with monospace font) when the [-] (button) is clicked, it should show: | | +--+ | event log [v]| +--+ |File transfers:[+]| +--+ (to expand again, click [+]) Ideas, suggestions ? Another idea would be to have the file transfer UI be embedded in the chatwindow, on the tab of the chat where the ft was started, but not in the conversation itself but on the right of it (where the dp of the user is). This space is not used for anything else, and this way the FT stays with the chat. As they have a link, they are easy to find this way. As FT's are not amsn's main activity and I don't see some users doing a lot of FT's together this would still be overseeable. Ideas here ? Suggestions ? Karel. 2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Nooo ! ;) This idea from MSN is really bad : we always lost our FTs when we are in a deep conversation with someone. The FT Manager let us to see exactly what we have donloaded and so on... Phil Harry Vennik a écrit : I think this is a very good idea. Would be better than 1 window per FT. An alternative would be, to integrate the progress indication for FT into the chat window. (a progressbar etc. in the notification message that an FT invitation was sent). Op 28-mei-2007, om 11:25 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende geschreven: I mean FT Manager of course... On 28/05/07, * [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any chance of a 'download manager' being added to the TODO? Cause I'd be wiling to work on that :) Tom
Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO
Hmm, I don't see the point of putting the FT manager in the CL Window, it has simply nothing to do with the CL. I'd say we'd either embed it in the chat as I suggested (but Phil rejected that already), or have a separate FT manager window, just to have all FT's in one window, and to keep some FT history (so when you know that Mr X sent you some file yesterday, you can open the FT window, and you can see the completed FT from Mr X there...). Also it would be nice to have some way (right-click menu?) there that allows you to move the file from 'amsn received files' to somewhere else, or delete the file. This will allow a user to accept an FT, open the file to see if he likes it, if yes, put it in some sensible location, otherwise delete it. The look of the window could be similar to the Downloads window in Firefox or Safari. Harry Op 28-mei-2007, om 14:58 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende geschreven: I agree with Karel - we should have a tab in the main window. That way, if/when we have tabbed CLs for multiple logins then it can be just another tab on the end..? Or maybe different... On 28/05/07, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So in a seperate window for non-tabbed-window users and in what tabbed window for ppl who use tabs per group ? Or only have the ft's of the chats of a specific container in the FT tab of that container ? So an FT tab per container ? You can 't start FT's from that FT tab either, don't you ? Doesn't this make it more difficult to find ? Or silly ? This means I can't chat with a person and see the status of the FT on the same moment ? I think it's very much needed to be able to see the status while your chatting wityh the person who sent the file or you're sending a file to! (this can be done with both my ideas and a FT manager in a seperate window) How is it simpler to make ? The question I have when I choose between my 2 ideas, is is it needed to see all downloads in 1 place ? ... will ppl have so much FT's all together so it's a needed feature sto see 'm both ? Because I'm not yet sure of this I have two ideas. 2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would have thought about a FTManager tab in the Chat Window... Simple to make and better to see all your transfers for every Chat Putting this in Main window is silly IMO as you can't start a FT from here... Phil Karel Demeyer a écrit : Idd. From a usability standpoint, I think it would be best to have all downloads in 1 FTmanager 'window', to avoid clutter and to make it overseeable. But I think it would be even better to embed this 'window' in the main amsn window to avoid clutter. In the caht window we could have a text saying (to check the status of this file transfer, see the main window). My idea is like this: | | +--+ | event log [v]| +--+ |File transfers:[-]| +--+ |Filename 1 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | [===] | | Open Cancel | | | |Filename 2 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | [===] | | Open Cancel | +--+ (watch with monospace font) when the [-] (button) is clicked, it should show: | | +--+ | event log [v]| +--+ |File transfers:[+]| +--+ (to expand again, click [+]) Ideas, suggestions ? Another idea would be to have the file transfer UI be embedded in the chatwindow, on the tab of the chat where the ft was started, but not in the conversation itself but on the right of it (where the dp of the user is). This space is not used for anything else, and this way the FT stays with the chat. As they have a link, they are easy to find this way. As FT's are not amsn's main activity and I don't see some users doing a lot of FT's together this would still be overseeable. Ideas here ? Suggestions ? Karel. 2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Nooo ! ;) This idea from MSN is really bad : we always lost our FTs when we are in a deep conversation with someone. The FT Manager let us to see exactly what we have donloaded and so on... Phil Harry Vennik a écrit : I think this is a very good idea. Would be better than 1 window per FT. An alternative would be, to integrate the progress indication for FT into the chat window. (a progressbar etc. in the notification message that an FT invitation was sent). Op 28-mei-2007, om 11:25 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende geschreven: I mean FT Manager of course... On 28/05/07, * [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO
multiple logins in one window? I don't understand that I use multiple logins when I have friens at home that want to connect. each login is completely indepent :-s apart this IMO a separate FT window is much better than all other proposed solutions 2007/5/28, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A tab in the main window ? I'm sure most ppl would want to see their contactlist all time while chatting. If this is true, it makes it again mpossible to chat and watch the status of the FT at the same time. Also, I dislike the idea of tabs for multiple account. All contacts of all account should be in 1 list. It's not about account', IM is about the contacts, right ? you shouldn't care what account your contact is on to reach him/her, just chat to her/him, right ? This why I wanted it underneath the contactlist in the main window (in my first idea). Karel. 2007/5/28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I agree with Karel - we should have a tab in the main window. That way, if/when we have tabbed CLs for multiple logins then it can be just another tab on the end..? Or maybe different... On 28/05/07, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So in a seperate window for non-tabbed-window users and in what tabbed window for ppl who use tabs per group ? Or only have the ft's of the chats of a specific container in the FT tab of that container ? So an FT tab per container ? You can 't start FT's from that FT tab either, don't you ? Doesn't this make it more difficult to find ? Or silly ? This means I can't chat with a person and see the status of the FT on the same moment ? I think it's very much needed to be able to see the status while your chatting wityh the person who sent the file or you're sending a file to! (this can be done with both my ideas and a FT manager in a seperate window) How is it simpler to make ? The question I have when I choose between my 2 ideas, is is it needed to see all downloads in 1 place ? ... will ppl have so much FT's all together so it's a needed feature sto see 'm both ? Because I'm not yet sure of this I have two ideas. 2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would have thought about a FTManager tab in the Chat Window... Simple to make and better to see all your transfers for every Chat Putting this in Main window is silly IMO as you can't start a FT from here... Phil Karel Demeyer a écrit : Idd. From a usability standpoint, I think it would be best to have all downloads in 1 FTmanager 'window', to avoid clutter and to make it overseeable. But I think it would be even better to embed this 'window' in the main amsn window to avoid clutter. In the caht window we could have a text saying (to check the status of this file transfer, see the main window). My idea is like this: | | +--+ | event log [v]| +--+ |File transfers:[-]| +--+ |Filename 1 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | [===] | | Open Cancel | | | |Filename 2 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | [===] | | Open Cancel | +--+ (watch with monospace font) when the [-] (button) is clicked, it should show: | | +--+ | event log [v]| +--+ |File transfers:[+]| +--+ (to expand again, click [+]) Ideas, suggestions ? Another idea would be to have the file transfer UI be embedded in the chatwindow, on the tab of the chat where the ft was started, but not in the conversation itself but on the right of it (where the dp of the user is). This space is not used for anything else, and this way the FT stays with the chat. As they have a link, they are easy to find this way. As FT's are not amsn's main activity and I don't see some users doing a lot of FT's together this would still be overseeable. Ideas here ? Suggestions ? Karel. 2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Nooo ! ;) This idea from MSN is really bad : we always lost our FTs when we are in a deep conversation with someone. The FT Manager let us to see exactly what we have donloaded and so on... Phil Harry Vennik a écrit : I think this is a very good idea. Would be better than 1 window per FT. An alternative would be, to integrate the progress indication for FT into the chat window. (a progressbar etc. in the notification message that an FT invitation was sent). Op
Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO
That's a whole other story. I was talking about having more then 1 account in an aMSN profile. Having multiple profiles would still be possible this way. Othjer profiles should have their own window, not a tab on teh window of the other profile so you can have 1 amsn profile on a workspace and another (from a friend) on another workspace for example. 2007/5/28, tonighx [EMAIL PROTECTED]: multiple logins in one window? I don't understand that I use multiple logins when I have friens at home that want to connect. each login is completely indepent :-s apart this IMO a separate FT window is much better than all other proposed solutions 2007/5/28, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A tab in the main window ? I'm sure most ppl would want to see their contactlist all time while chatting. If this is true, it makes it again mpossible to chat and watch the status of the FT at the same time. Also, I dislike the idea of tabs for multiple account. All contacts of all account should be in 1 list. It's not about account', IM is about the contacts, right ? you shouldn't care what account your contact is on to reach him/her, just chat to her/him, right ? This why I wanted it underneath the contactlist in the main window (in my first idea). Karel. 2007/5/28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I agree with Karel - we should have a tab in the main window. That way, if/when we have tabbed CLs for multiple logins then it can be just another tab on the end..? Or maybe different... On 28/05/07, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So in a seperate window for non-tabbed-window users and in what tabbed window for ppl who use tabs per group ? Or only have the ft's of the chats of a specific container in the FT tab of that container ? So an FT tab per container ? You can 't start FT's from that FT tab either, don't you ? Doesn't this make it more difficult to find ? Or silly ? This means I can't chat with a person and see the status of the FT on the same moment ? I think it's very much needed to be able to see the status while your chatting wityh the person who sent the file or you're sending a file to! (this can be done with both my ideas and a FT manager in a seperate window) How is it simpler to make ? The question I have when I choose between my 2 ideas, is is it needed to see all downloads in 1 place ? ... will ppl have so much FT's all together so it's a needed feature sto see 'm both ? Because I'm not yet sure of this I have two ideas. 2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would have thought about a FTManager tab in the Chat Window... Simple to make and better to see all your transfers for every Chat Putting this in Main window is silly IMO as you can't start a FT from here... Phil Karel Demeyer a écrit : Idd. From a usability standpoint, I think it would be best to have all downloads in 1 FTmanager 'window', to avoid clutter and to make it overseeable. But I think it would be even better to embed this 'window' in the main amsn window to avoid clutter. In the caht window we could have a text saying (to check the status of this file transfer, see the main window). My idea is like this: | | +--+ | event log [v]| +--+ |File transfers:[-]| +--+ |Filename 1 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | [===] | | Open Cancel | | | |Filename 2 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | [===] | | Open Cancel | +--+ (watch with monospace font) when the [-] (button) is clicked, it should show: | | +--+ | event log [v]| +--+ |File transfers:[+]| +--+ (to expand again, click [+]) Ideas, suggestions ? Another idea would be to have the file transfer UI be embedded in the chatwindow, on the tab of the chat where the ft was started, but not in the conversation itself but on the right of it (where the dp of the user is). This space is not used for anything else, and this way the FT stays with the chat. As they have a link, they are easy to find this way. As FT's are not amsn's main activity and I don't see some users doing a lot of FT's together this would still be overseeable. Ideas here ? Suggestions ? Karel. 2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO
Op 28-mei-2007, om 15:30 heeft Karel Demeyer het volgende geschreven: 2007/5/28, Harry Vennik [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hmm, I don't see the point of putting the FT manager in the CL Window, it has simply nothing to do with the CL. The main window is not only about the CL, it's about aMSN on it's whole ! Hmm, I wonder if many users would think of it that way. At least I don't. I'd say we'd either embed it in the chat as I suggested (but Phil rejected that already), As it would scroll away and make it impossible to watch while chatting. That's true, but why would you watch it all the time? Because of the nice progressbar with changing color? (j/k) Of course, you might want to check if the transfer has finished, but I won't mind scrolling back for that. There is one other problem however (which applies to some other proposed solutions too): What to do when the CW is closed before the FT completes? or have a separate FT manager window, just to have all FT's in one window, and to keep some FT history (so when you know that Mr X sent you some file yesterday, you can open the FT window, and you can see the completed FT from Mr X there...). Also it would be nice to have some way (right-click menu?) there that allows you to move the file from 'amsn received files' to somewhere else, or delete the file. This will allow a user to accept an FT, open the file to see if he likes it, if yes, put it in some sensible location, otherwise delete it. The look of the window could be similar to the Downloads window in Firefox or Safari. Which is all possible in my 1st idea, without having yet another window open. This way, there's no ned to search for the window in you window manager, it's in teh main amsn window most users will have on their screen while using amsn anyway. I know that's possible, but I just wouldn't like to have that stuff in my CL window. Harry Op 28-mei-2007, om 14:58 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende geschreven: I agree with Karel - we should have a tab in the main window. That way, if/when we have tabbed CLs for multiple logins then it can be just another tab on the end..? Or maybe different... On 28/05/07, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So in a seperate window for non-tabbed-window users and in what tabbed window for ppl who use tabs per group ? Or only have the ft's of the chats of a specific container in the FT tab of that container ? So an FT tab per container ? You can 't start FT's from that FT tab either, don't you ? Doesn't this make it more difficult to find ? Or silly ? This means I can't chat with a person and see the status of the FT on the same moment ? I think it's very much needed to be able to see the status while your chatting wityh the person who sent the file or you're sending a file to! (this can be done with both my ideas and a FT manager in a seperate window) How is it simpler to make ? The question I have when I choose between my 2 ideas, is is it needed to see all downloads in 1 place ? ... will ppl have so much FT's all together so it's a needed feature sto see 'm both ? Because I'm not yet sure of this I have two ideas. 2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would have thought about a FTManager tab in the Chat Window... Simple to make and better to see all your transfers for every Chat Putting this in Main window is silly IMO as you can't start a FT from here... Phil Karel Demeyer a écrit : Idd. From a usability standpoint, I think it would be best to have all downloads in 1 FTmanager 'window', to avoid clutter and to make it overseeable. But I think it would be even better to embed this 'window' in the main amsn window to avoid clutter. In the caht window we could have a text saying (to check the status of this file transfer, see the main window). My idea is like this: | | +--+ | event log [v]| +--+ |File transfers:[-]| +--+ |Filename 1 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | [===] | | Open Cancel | | | |Filename 2 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | [===] | | Open Cancel | +--+ (watch with monospace font) when the [-] (button) is clicked, it should show: | | +--+ | event log [v]| +--+ |File transfers:[+]| +--+ (to expand again, click [+]) Ideas, suggestions ? Another idea would be to have the file transfer UI be embedded in the chatwindow, on the tab of the chat where the ft was started, but not in the conversation itself but on the right of it (where the dp of the user is). This space is not used for anything else, and this way the
Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO
I dislike the separated Window and Main Window for FT because like Karel I don't like to search 100 years for a window but I often only keep my chat window open... The most logical would be to have FTs near the chat window of the bound contact so I would say a FT tab for each container and for users who don't use tabs add one especially for FT ? (I am not sure for this last one) Anyway, when I want to chat I don't want to have the side of a window taken by the download manager : don't forget that's a huge window so how would you integreate this near the chat window... Unlike Live we provide several informations/options for each file... About moving file, I don't know if we can display a directory browser but idea seems interesting but not using a right clic (think about Mac user and their Command-click) and that's so better to provide a button like we have already for other actions... Phil Karel Demeyer a écrit : 2007/5/28, Harry Vennik [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hmm, I don't see the point of putting the FT manager in the CL Window, it has simply nothing to do with the CL. The main window is not only about the CL, it's about aMSN on it's whole ! I'd say we'd either embed it in the chat as I suggested (but Phil rejected that already), As it would scroll away and make it impossible to watch while chatting. or have a separate FT manager window, just to have all FT's in one window, and to keep some FT history (so when you know that Mr X sent you some file yesterday, you can open the FT window, and you can see the completed FT from Mr X there...). Also it would be nice to have some way (right-click menu?) there that allows you to move the file from 'amsn received files' to somewhere else, or delete the file. This will allow a user to accept an FT, open the file to see if he likes it, if yes, put it in some sensible location, otherwise delete it. The look of the window could be similar to the Downloads window in Firefox or Safari. Which is all possible in my 1st idea, without having yet another window open. This way, there's no ned to search for the window in you window manager, it's in teh main amsn window most users will have on their screen while using amsn anyway. Harry Op 28-mei-2007, om 14:58 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende geschreven: I agree with Karel - we should have a tab in the main window. That way, if/when we have tabbed CLs for multiple logins then it can be just another tab on the end..? Or maybe different... On 28/05/07, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So in a seperate window for non-tabbed-window users and in what tabbed window for ppl who use tabs per group ? Or only have the ft's of the chats of a specific container in the FT tab of that container ? So an FT tab per container ? You can 't start FT's from that FT tab either, don't you ? Doesn't this make it more difficult to find ? Or silly ? This means I can't chat with a person and see the status of the FT on the same moment ? I think it's very much needed to be able to see the status while your chatting wityh the person who sent the file or you're sending a file to! (this can be done with both my ideas and a FT manager in a seperate window) How is it simpler to make ? The question I have when I choose between my 2 ideas, is is it needed to see all downloads in 1 place ? ... will ppl have so much FT's all together so it's a needed feature sto see 'm both ? Because I'm not yet sure of this I have two ideas. 2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would have thought about a FTManager tab in the Chat Window... Simple to make and better to see all your transfers for every Chat Putting this in Main window is silly IMO as you can't start a FT from here... Phil Karel Demeyer a écrit : Idd. From a usability standpoint, I think it would be best to have all downloads in 1 FTmanager 'window', to avoid clutter and to make it overseeable. But I think it would be even better to embed this 'window' in the main amsn window to avoid clutter. In the caht window we could have a text saying (to check the status of this file transfer, see the main window). My idea is like this: | | +--+ | event log [v]| +--+ |File transfers:[-]| +--+ |Filename 1 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | [===] | | Open Cancel | | | |Filename 2 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | [===] | | Open Cancel | +--+ (watch with monospace font) when the [-] (button) is clicked, it should show: | | +--+ | event log [v]| +--+ |File transfers:[+]| +--+ (to expand again, click [+]) Ideas, suggestions ? Another idea would be to have the file
Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO
I like the idea of a firefox style download manager. (In a separate window). This way the CL isn't too cluttered. Maybe we could have an option to show active FTs in the CL and double clicking an FT in the CL would bring up the download manager window (selecting the chosen transfer).. but I think having the whole download manager there is too much.. On 28 May 2007, at 14:17, Harry Vennik wrote: Hmm, I don't see the point of putting the FT manager in the CL Window, it has simply nothing to do with the CL. I'd say we'd either embed it in the chat as I suggested (but Phil rejected that already), or have a separate FT manager window, just to have all FT's in one window, and to keep some FT history (so when you know that Mr X sent you some file yesterday, you can open the FT window, and you can see the completed FT from Mr X there...). Also it would be nice to have some way (right-click menu?) there that allows you to move the file from 'amsn received files' to somewhere else, or delete the file. This will allow a user to accept an FT, open the file to see if he likes it, if yes, put it in some sensible location, otherwise delete it. The look of the window could be similar to the Downloads window in Firefox or Safari. Harry Op 28-mei-2007, om 14:58 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende geschreven: I agree with Karel - we should have a tab in the main window. That way, if/when we have tabbed CLs for multiple logins then it can be just another tab on the end..? Or maybe different... On 28/05/07, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So in a seperate window for non-tabbed-window users and in what tabbed window for ppl who use tabs per group ? Or only have the ft's of the chats of a specific container in the FT tab of that container ? So an FT tab per container ? You can 't start FT's from that FT tab either, don't you ? Doesn't this make it more difficult to find ? Or silly ? This means I can't chat with a person and see the status of the FT on the same moment ? I think it's very much needed to be able to see the status while your chatting wityh the person who sent the file or you're sending a file to! (this can be done with both my ideas and a FT manager in a seperate window) How is it simpler to make ? The question I have when I choose between my 2 ideas, is is it needed to see all downloads in 1 place ? ... will ppl have so much FT's all together so it's a needed feature sto see 'm both ? Because I'm not yet sure of this I have two ideas. 2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would have thought about a FTManager tab in the Chat Window... Simple to make and better to see all your transfers for every Chat Putting this in Main window is silly IMO as you can't start a FT from here... Phil Karel Demeyer a écrit : Idd. From a usability standpoint, I think it would be best to have all downloads in 1 FTmanager 'window', to avoid clutter and to make it overseeable. But I think it would be even better to embed this 'window' in the main amsn window to avoid clutter. In the caht window we could have a text saying (to check the status of this file transfer, see the main window). My idea is like this: | | +--+ | event log [v]| +--+ |File transfers:[-]| +--+ |Filename 1 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | [===] | | Open Cancel | | | |Filename 2 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | [===] | | Open Cancel | +--+ (watch with monospace font) when the [-] (button) is clicked, it should show: | | +--+ | event log [v]| +--+ |File transfers:[+]| +--+ (to expand again, click [+]) Ideas, suggestions ? Another idea would be to have the file transfer UI be embedded in the chatwindow, on the tab of the chat where the ft was started, but not in the conversation itself but on the right of it (where the dp of the user is). This space is not used for anything else, and this way the FT stays with the chat. As they have a link, they are easy to find this way. As FT's are not amsn's main activity and I don't see some users doing a lot of FT's together this would still be overseeable. Ideas here ? Suggestions ? Karel. 2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Nooo ! ;) This idea from MSN is really bad : we always lost our FTs when we are in a deep conversation with someone. The FT Manager let us to see exactly what we have donloaded and so on... Phil Harry Vennik a écrit : I think this is a very good idea. Would be better than 1 window per FT. An alternative would
Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO
that's indeed a whole other story, and totally off topic here. We're far from implementing multi accounts in one process so no need to waste time discussing this On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 03:32:08PM +0200, Karel Demeyer wrote: That's a whole other story. I was talking about having more then 1 account in an aMSN profile. Having multiple profiles would still be possible this way. Othjer profiles should have their own window, not a tab on teh window of the other profile so you can have 1 amsn profile on a workspace and another (from a friend) on another workspace for example. 2007/5/28, tonighx [EMAIL PROTECTED]: multiple logins in one window? I don't understand that I use multiple logins when I have friens at home that want to connect. each login is completely indepent :-s apart this IMO a separate FT window is much better than all other proposed solutions 2007/5/28, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A tab in the main window ? I'm sure most ppl would want to see their contactlist all time while chatting. If this is true, it makes it again mpossible to chat and watch the status of the FT at the same time. Also, I dislike the idea of tabs for multiple account. All contacts of all account should be in 1 list. It's not about account', IM is about the contacts, right ? you shouldn't care what account your contact is on to reach him/her, just chat to her/him, right ? This why I wanted it underneath the contactlist in the main window (in my first idea). Karel. 2007/5/28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I agree with Karel - we should have a tab in the main window. That way, if/when we have tabbed CLs for multiple logins then it can be just another tab on the end..? Or maybe different... On 28/05/07, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So in a seperate window for non-tabbed-window users and in what tabbed window for ppl who use tabs per group ? Or only have the ft's of the chats of a specific container in the FT tab of that container ? So an FT tab per container ? You can 't start FT's from that FT tab either, don't you ? Doesn't this make it more difficult to find ? Or silly ? This means I can't chat with a person and see the status of the FT on the same moment ? I think it's very much needed to be able to see the status while your chatting wityh the person who sent the file or you're sending a file to! (this can be done with both my ideas and a FT manager in a seperate window) How is it simpler to make ? The question I have when I choose between my 2 ideas, is is it needed to see all downloads in 1 place ? ... will ppl have so much FT's all together so it's a needed feature sto see 'm both ? Because I'm not yet sure of this I have two ideas. 2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would have thought about a FTManager tab in the Chat Window... Simple to make and better to see all your transfers for every Chat Putting this in Main window is silly IMO as you can't start a FT from here... Phil Karel Demeyer a écrit : Idd. From a usability standpoint, I think it would be best to have all downloads in 1 FTmanager 'window', to avoid clutter and to make it overseeable. But I think it would be even better to embed this 'window' in the main amsn window to avoid clutter. In the caht window we could have a text saying (to check the status of this file transfer, see the main window). My idea is like this: | | +--+ | event log [v]| +--+ |File transfers:[-]| +--+ |Filename 1 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | [===] | | Open Cancel | | | |Filename 2 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | [===] | | Open Cancel | +--+ (watch with monospace font) when the [-] (button) is clicked, it should show: | | +--+ | event log [v]| +--+ |File transfers:[+]| +--+ (to expand again, click [+]) Ideas, suggestions ? Another idea would be to have the file transfer UI be embedded in the chatwindow, on the tab of the chat where the ft was started, but not in the conversation itself but on the right of it (where the dp of the user is). This space is not used for anything else, and this way the
Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO
I fully disagree with Karel. You first wanted to put the spaces in the CL and now the FTs ? what is it with your obcession on the CL ? let it be what it is : a CONTACT list, nothing more.maybe you have your CL as always on top and have a dual screen specially to put your CL on it and you want all the info there, but in my case and in the case of many people, no, the CL is only opened when you want to start a chat, you don't need it if you don't want to see who's online. Some people also always want their CL maximized, whether it is because they are used to maximized windows or maybe because they want to see their contact's full nicknames without truncation, but in any case, the CL is NOT the place for that. Maybe you think it's better for usability, but I would say it's better for YOU and usability, but not everyone uses it the same way as you do. And I think that 'simple' is better than 'save a few eye movements'. Seriously, how many people do you think will be completely lost and confused if they start a chat and it pops up in their contact list, huh ??? The spaces in CL is acceptable because it's info about the contacts, but still, I still disagree.. but now, FTs in the CL? I completely disagree. As Harry said below, I wonder how many users would think of it that way (main window is not about the CL). Now, don't worry, everything you said didn't go to waste, it just helped everyone here brainstorm on a usable solution. And many issues were reported already. If I can summarize it, I would say that we have : 1 - what to do in case no tabs, or tabs per group ? 2 - create a new window or a new tab in a container ? in that case which container ? 3 - do we want inside the CW or as a new download manager window separate ? 4 - what happens if we close the CW and the chat is still open ? I don't know if I put everything... anyways, I kind of have a solution that I hope everyone will like. I suggest to do both in CW and as a separate download manager. So, I would very much like a download manager like firefox/pidgin that would be awesome and everyone will love it! where to open it ? I guess we could open it wherever we want, right ? 1 - if no tabs, then open a new window with it 2 - if tabs, then open it as a new tab 3 - if a container per group, then we could have it appear as a tab in EACH container. Think about Opera for example, you press Ctrl-Alt-T (the hotkey) which opens the transfer manager/window. it's a new tab that gets opened in the window you are in. Yes, opera can have as many windows as you want, and each 'window' can have as many tabs as you want. If you open a transfer in window 1, then the transfer manager opens as a new tab in window 1, if you open a transfer in window 2, the transfer manager then opens up in window 2. It stays open in window 1 and 2, they both look the same and they both have the same info. it's just a kind of 'duplicate' of the window. So whoever codes the download manager, when he does the snit object, he must make sure that it can be 'hooked' into multiple widgets. like for example we would do : DownloadManager create DM1 DM1 setParent $w1 $w2 DM1 addTransfer $contact $filename and in DownloadManager, we would do for example : method addTransfer { ... } { ;# process whatever we want to process $self updateWidget } method updateWidget {} { foreach w $parents { update $w } } anyways, I'm not saying it should be done like that, but just saying we should keep in mind that it can have multiple parents. Ok, so now, that's my solution about the tabs/tabs per group/no tabs. And just so you know, it may seem weird or you might say but it's more confusing, multiple windows for the same thing, I would say that you're wrong, it's not confusing, I found it perfectly normal with Opera. I want to keep two windows, one for work related tabs and one for amsn forums tabs for example, well, if I transfer something, I want to see it right here, next to my current tab, I don't want it to switch to a different window. Also, most people won't even notice, when you're on container 1, and you open transfer window, it opens up next to your current tab, you're happy, you don't even think about oh, didn't I have another one on some other container somewhere. Anyways. Next for the next solution. The transfers in the CW. I see it pretty simple, keep them in the CW, but not 'scrollable'. I would suggest maybe putting some small, little frame between the buttonbar and the output text widget. Something that doesn't scroll up, not much info in it, it shouldn't bother the user, a simple line in a small font, maybe 10 pixels high (per file), something like Azureus' download bar (you open a download bar 'always on top' gives you very small info about a download and you can put it anywhere on your desktop and minimize Azureus, it's probably 10 pixels heigh not more), I can send a screenshot anytime. So, you
Re: [Amsn-devel] Bug on start
LOL @ ps.. On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 10:23:38AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, sorry :) I do normally read the forums. Although I checked there after you suggested it and found nothing :S Oh well, I'll update my tcl/tk later today. Thanks! Tom ps: Are you calling me INACTIVE? :@ Well, I am, so I suppose I can't complain... :D On 27/05/07, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forums ? :d In some words, update your tcl/tk to 8.5a6 or better Even inactive devels should read forums :d Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Error in startup script: extra characters after close-brace while executing set command [list $self {*}$Snit_optionInfo(configure-$option) $option] (procedure snit::RT.CacheConfigureCommand line 36) invoked from within snit::RT.CacheConfigureCommand $type $selfns $win $self $option (procedure ::snit::RT.method.configurelist line 7) invoked from within ::snit::RT.method.configurelist $type $selfns $win $self $args (procedure ::snit::RT.method.configure line 4) invoked from within $self configure -width $arrow1width (procedure ::pixmapscrollbar::Snit_constructor line 154) invoked from within ::pixmapscrollbar::Snit_constructor ::pixmapscrollbar ::pixmapscrollbar::Snit_inst1 .plugins_log.ys .plugins_log.ys -command {.plugins_log.info yview} (eval body line 1) invoked from within eval [linsert $arglist 0 ${type}::Snit_constructor $type $selfns $instance $instance] (procedure RT.ConstructInstance line 9) invoked from within RT.ConstructInstance $type $selfns $name $args (procedure ::snit::RT.widget.typemethod.create line 53) invoked from within scrollbar $window.ys -command $window.info yview (procedure ::pluginslog::draw line 12) invoked from within ::pluginslog::draw invoked from within if { $initialize_amsn == 1 } { ::pluginslog::draw } (file pluginslog.tcl line 210) invoked from within source pluginslog.tcl (uplevel body line 27) invoked from within uplevel \#0 { # amsncore.tcl is already loaded but we'll re-source it here in case we manually do reload_files source amsncore.tcl source audio.tc... (procedure reload_files line 2) invoked from within reload_files (file ./amsn line 250) - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] Bug on start
I didn't even notice the PS... Be happy as I could have put retired :p Phil Youness Alaoui a écrit : LOL @ ps.. On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 10:23:38AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, sorry :) I do normally read the forums. Although I checked there after you suggested it and found nothing :S Oh well, I'll update my tcl/tk later today. Thanks! Tom ps: Are you calling me INACTIVE? :@ Well, I am, so I suppose I can't complain... :D On 27/05/07, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forums ? :d In some words, update your tcl/tk to 8.5a6 or better Even inactive devels should read forums :d Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Error in startup script: extra characters after close-brace while executing set command [list $self {*}$Snit_optionInfo(configure-$option) $option] (procedure snit::RT.CacheConfigureCommand line 36) invoked from within snit::RT.CacheConfigureCommand $type $selfns $win $self $option (procedure ::snit::RT.method.configurelist line 7) invoked from within ::snit::RT.method.configurelist $type $selfns $win $self $args (procedure ::snit::RT.method.configure line 4) invoked from within $self configure -width $arrow1width (procedure ::pixmapscrollbar::Snit_constructor line 154) invoked from within ::pixmapscrollbar::Snit_constructor ::pixmapscrollbar ::pixmapscrollbar::Snit_inst1 .plugins_log.ys .plugins_log.ys -command {.plugins_log.info yview} (eval body line 1) invoked from within eval [linsert $arglist 0 ${type}::Snit_constructor $type $selfns $instance $instance] (procedure RT.ConstructInstance line 9) invoked from within RT.ConstructInstance $type $selfns $name $args (procedure ::snit::RT.widget.typemethod.create line 53) invoked from within scrollbar $window.ys -command $window.info yview (procedure ::pluginslog::draw line 12) invoked from within ::pluginslog::draw invoked from within if { $initialize_amsn == 1 } { ::pluginslog::draw } (file pluginslog.tcl line 210) invoked from within source pluginslog.tcl (uplevel body line 27) invoked from within uplevel \#0 { # amsncore.tcl is already loaded but we'll re-source it here in case we manually do reload_files source amsncore.tcl source audio.tc... (procedure reload_files line 2) invoked from within reload_files (file ./amsn line 250) - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
[Amsn-devel] SVG icons
Hey, I just stumbled upon this site: http://svgicons.o7a.net/ It is basically a collection of SVG icons of various Linux applications, since SVG icons are used more and more often but they are hard to find. Should we send them the aMSN icon as well? - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] Bug on start
Hehe thanks, I owe you ^o) :P On 28/05/07, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't even notice the PS... Be happy as I could have put retired :p Phil Youness Alaoui a écrit : LOL @ ps.. On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 10:23:38AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Okay, sorry :) I do normally read the forums. Although I checked there after you suggested it and found nothing :S Oh well, I'll update my tcl/tk later today. Thanks! Tom ps: Are you calling me INACTIVE? :@ Well, I am, so I suppose I can't complain... :D On 27/05/07, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forums ? :d In some words, update your tcl/tk to 8.5a6 or better Even inactive devels should read forums :d Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Error in startup script: extra characters after close-brace while executing set command [list $self {*}$Snit_optionInfo(configure-$option) $option] (procedure snit::RT.CacheConfigureCommand line 36) invoked from within snit::RT.CacheConfigureCommand $type $selfns $win $self $option (procedure ::snit::RT.method.configurelist line 7) invoked from within ::snit::RT.method.configurelist $type $selfns $win $self $args (procedure ::snit::RT.method.configure line 4) invoked from within $self configure -width $arrow1width (procedure ::pixmapscrollbar::Snit_constructor line 154) invoked from within ::pixmapscrollbar::Snit_constructor ::pixmapscrollbar ::pixmapscrollbar::Snit_inst1 .plugins_log.ys .plugins_log.ys -command {.plugins_log.info yview} (eval body line 1) invoked from within eval [linsert $arglist 0 ${type}::Snit_constructor $type $selfns $instance $instance] (procedure RT.ConstructInstance line 9) invoked from within RT.ConstructInstance $type $selfns $name $args (procedure ::snit::RT.widget.typemethod.create line 53) invoked from within scrollbar $window.ys -command $window.info yview (procedure ::pluginslog::draw line 12) invoked from within ::pluginslog::draw invoked from within if { $initialize_amsn == 1 } { ::pluginslog::draw } (file pluginslog.tcl line 210) invoked from within source pluginslog.tcl (uplevel body line 27) invoked from within uplevel \#0 { # amsncore.tcl is already loaded but we'll re-source it here in case we manually do reload_files source amsncore.tcl source audio.tc... (procedure reload_files line 2) invoked from within reload_files (file ./amsn line 250) - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
[Amsn-devel] GTK Port
Hey guys, I am interested in doing a port of aMSN to C++/GTK, does anybody know if this sort of thing has been started yet, or do you guys have something against it? Thanks, Rob - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] GTK Port
Look at Kmess project ( http://www.kmess.org/ ). This is C++/QT, maybe it would be more easy to rewrite Kmess with GTK than rewrite aMSN (TCL/TK) with C++/GTK ! Good luck for your project ! It looks interesting. 2007/5/28, Rob Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hey guys, I am interested in doing a port of aMSN to C++/GTK, does anybody know if this sort of thing has been started yet, or do you guys have something against it? Thanks, Rob - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- Benjamin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://vanheu.ca - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] GTK Port
Wow, that's a lot different...I don't even need to port it! Unfortunately it doesn't seem to work well, or at least not as well as aMSN. I think I'll tinker around with your guys' code some more and see what I can come up with. BTW, if I'm interested in helping with what you guys are doing, should I just respond to a bug post or something and try to fix it? On 5/28/07, Benjamin Vanheuverzwijn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look at Kmess project ( http://www.kmess.org/ ). This is C++/QT, maybe it would be more easy to rewrite Kmess with GTK than rewrite aMSN (TCL/TK) with C++/GTK ! Good luck for your project ! It looks interesting. 2007/5/28, Rob Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hey guys, I am interested in doing a port of aMSN to C++/GTK, does anybody know if this sort of thing has been started yet, or do you guys have something against it? Thanks, Rob - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- Benjamin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://vanheu.ca - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel