Re: [Amsn-devel] Bug on start

2007-05-28 Thread capricious . falcon

Okay, sorry :) I do normally read the forums. Although I checked there after
you suggested it and found nothing :S Oh well, I'll update my tcl/tk later
today.

Thanks!
Tom

ps: Are you calling me INACTIVE? :@ Well, I am, so I suppose I can't
complain... :D

On 27/05/07, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


Forums ? :d
In some words, update your tcl/tk to 8.5a6 or better
Even inactive devels should read forums :d
Phil

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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread capricious . falcon

Is there any chance of a 'download manager' being added to the TODO? Cause
I'd be wiling to work on that :)

Tom

On 11/05/07, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,
I'll start this new thread about the 0.98 TODO. It is still very small
now, and I hope it will get expanded with
time. The 0.97 TODO is complete, 0.97 RC1 will be released soon (once we
get the new smiley set lordzak/ubitux
is doing), and we'll make a branch and start working on 0.98. So here's my
current TODO list :

- HIGH PRI : Implement the new preferences window
- Implement a new chat window widget in snit with totally modular code and
using events.
- very nice idea : be able to record a message to be sent as voiceclip in
the custom status/autoaway message :
(http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272)



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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread capricious . falcon

I mean FT Manager of course...

On 28/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


Is there any chance of a 'download manager' being added to the TODO? Cause
I'd be wiling to work on that :)

Tom

On 11/05/07, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 I'll start this new thread about the 0.98 TODO. It is still very small
 now, and I hope it will get expanded with
 time. The 0.97 TODO is complete, 0.97 RC1 will be released soon (once we
 get the new smiley set lordzak/ubitux
 is doing), and we'll make a branch and start working on 0.98. So here's
 my current TODO list :

 - HIGH PRI : Implement the new preferences window
 - Implement a new chat window widget in snit with totally modular code
 and using events.
 - very nice idea : be able to record a message to be sent as voiceclip
 in the custom status/autoaway message :
 (http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272 )




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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread Philippe Valembois - Phil
That was intended to come with total rewrite of the new ChatWindow : so
yes it is planned ;)
Phil

[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
 I mean FT Manager of course...
 
 On 28/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Is there any chance of a 'download manager' being added to the TODO?
 Cause I'd be wiling to work on that :)
 
 Tom
 
 
 On 11/05/07, *Youness Alaoui * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I'll start this new thread about the 0.98 TODO. It is still very
 small now, and I hope it will get expanded with
 time. The 0.97 TODO is complete, 0.97 RC1 will be released soon
 (once we get the new smiley set lordzak/ubitux
 is doing), and we'll make a branch and start working on 0.98. So
 here's my current TODO list :
 
 - HIGH PRI : Implement the new preferences window
 - Implement a new chat window widget in snit with totally
 modular code and using events.
 - very nice idea : be able to record a message to be sent as
 voiceclip in the custom status/autoaway message :
 ( http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272
 http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272)
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread Harry Vennik

I think this is a very good idea. Would be better than 1 window per FT.
An alternative would be, to integrate the progress indication for FT  
into the chat window. (a progressbar etc. in the notification message  
that an FT invitation was sent).


Op 28-mei-2007, om 11:25 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] het  
volgende geschreven:



I mean FT Manager of course...

On 28/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there any chance of a 'download manager' being added to the  
TODO? Cause I'd be wiling to work on that :)


Tom


On 11/05/07, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I'll start this new thread about the 0.98 TODO. It is still very  
small now, and I hope it will get expanded with
time. The 0.97 TODO is complete, 0.97 RC1 will be released soon  
(once we get the new smiley set lordzak/ubitux
is doing), and we'll make a branch and start working on 0.98. So  
here's my current TODO list :


- HIGH PRI : Implement the new preferences window
- Implement a new chat window widget in snit with totally modular  
code and using events.
- very nice idea : be able to record a message to be sent as  
voiceclip in the custom status/autoaway message :

( http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272 )



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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread Harry Vennik
Ow, hehe this one came in while I was typing my other message...
But nice it's planned :-)

Op 28-mei-2007, om 12:35 heeft Philippe Valembois - Phil het volgende  
geschreven:

 That was intended to come with total rewrite of the new  
 ChatWindow : so
 yes it is planned ;)
 Phil

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
 I mean FT Manager of course...

 On 28/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there any chance of a 'download manager' being added to the  
 TODO?
 Cause I'd be wiling to work on that :)

 Tom


 On 11/05/07, *Youness Alaoui * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 I'll start this new thread about the 0.98 TODO. It is  
 still very
 small now, and I hope it will get expanded with
 time. The 0.97 TODO is complete, 0.97 RC1 will be released  
 soon
 (once we get the new smiley set lordzak/ubitux
 is doing), and we'll make a branch and start working on  
 0.98. So
 here's my current TODO list :

 - HIGH PRI : Implement the new preferences window
 - Implement a new chat window widget in snit with totally
 modular code and using events.
 - very nice idea : be able to record a message to be sent as
 voiceclip in the custom status/autoaway message :
 ( http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272
 http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272)



  
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread Philippe Valembois - Phil
Nooo ! ;)
This idea from MSN is really bad : we always lost our FTs when we are in
a deep conversation with someone. The FT Manager let us to see exactly
what we have donloaded and so on...
Phil

Harry Vennik a écrit :
 I think this is a very good idea. Would be better than 1 window per FT.
 An alternative would be, to integrate the progress indication for FT
 into the chat window. (a progressbar etc. in the notification message
 that an FT invitation was sent).
 
 Op 28-mei-2007, om 11:25 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende geschreven:
 
 I mean FT Manager of course...

 On 28/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there any chance of a 'download manager' being added to the
 TODO? Cause I'd be wiling to work on that :)

 Tom


 On 11/05/07, *Youness Alaoui * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 I'll start this new thread about the 0.98 TODO. It is still
 very small now, and I hope it will get expanded with
 time. The 0.97 TODO is complete, 0.97 RC1 will be released
 soon (once we get the new smiley set lordzak/ubitux
 is doing), and we'll make a branch and start working on 0.98.
 So here's my current TODO list :

 - HIGH PRI : Implement the new preferences window
 - Implement a new chat window widget in snit with totally
 modular code and using events.
 - very nice idea : be able to record a message to be sent as
 voiceclip in the custom status/autoaway message :
 ( http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272
 http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272)



 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread Karel Demeyer
Idd.

From a usability standpoint, I think it would be best to have all
downloads in 1 FTmanager 'window', to avoid clutter and to make it
overseeable. But I think it would be even better to embed this
'window' in the main amsn window to avoid clutter.  In the caht window
we could have a text saying (to check the status of this file
transfer, see the main window).
My idea is like this:

|  |
+--+
| event log [v]|
+--+
|File transfers:[-]|
+--+
|Filename 1 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
|  [===]   |
| Open Cancel  |
|  |
|Filename 2 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
|  [===]   |
| Open Cancel  |
+--+

(watch with monospace font)

when the [-] (button) is clicked, it should show:

|  |
+--+
| event log [v]|
+--+
|File transfers:[+]|
+--+

(to expand again, click [+])

Ideas, suggestions ?

Another idea would be to have the file transfer UI be embedded in the
chatwindow, on the tab of the chat where the ft was started, but not
in the conversation itself but on the right of it (where the dp of the
user is).  This space is not used for anything else, and this way the
FT stays with the chat.  As they have a link, they are easy to find
this way. As FT's are not amsn's main activity and I don't see some
users doing a lot of FT's together this would still be overseeable.

Ideas here ? Suggestions ?


Karel.

2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Nooo ! ;)
 This idea from MSN is really bad : we always lost our FTs when we are in
 a deep conversation with someone. The FT Manager let us to see exactly
 what we have donloaded and so on...
 Phil

 Harry Vennik a écrit :
  I think this is a very good idea. Would be better than 1 window per FT.
  An alternative would be, to integrate the progress indication for FT
  into the chat window. (a progressbar etc. in the notification message
  that an FT invitation was sent).
 
  Op 28-mei-2007, om 11:25 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende geschreven:
 
  I mean FT Manager of course...
 
  On 28/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Is there any chance of a 'download manager' being added to the
  TODO? Cause I'd be wiling to work on that :)
 
  Tom
 
 
  On 11/05/07, *Youness Alaoui * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi,
  I'll start this new thread about the 0.98 TODO. It is still
  very small now, and I hope it will get expanded with
  time. The 0.97 TODO is complete, 0.97 RC1 will be released
  soon (once we get the new smiley set lordzak/ubitux
  is doing), and we'll make a branch and start working on 0.98.
  So here's my current TODO list :
 
  - HIGH PRI : Implement the new preferences window
  - Implement a new chat window widget in snit with totally
  modular code and using events.
  - very nice idea : be able to record a message to be sent as
  voiceclip in the custom status/autoaway message :
  ( http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272
  http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272)
 
 
 
  
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread Philippe Valembois - Phil
I would have thought about a FTManager tab in the Chat Window...
Simple to make and better to see all your transfers for every Chat
Putting this in Main window is silly IMO as you can't start a FT from
here...
Phil

Karel Demeyer a écrit :
 Idd.
 
From a usability standpoint, I think it would be best to have all
 downloads in 1 FTmanager 'window', to avoid clutter and to make it
 overseeable. But I think it would be even better to embed this
 'window' in the main amsn window to avoid clutter.  In the caht window
 we could have a text saying (to check the status of this file
 transfer, see the main window).
 My idea is like this:
 
 |  |
 +--+
 | event log [v]|
 +--+
 |File transfers:[-]|
 +--+
 |Filename 1 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
 |  [===]   |
 | Open Cancel  |
 |  |
 |Filename 2 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
 |  [===]   |
 | Open Cancel  |
 +--+
 
 (watch with monospace font)
 
 when the [-] (button) is clicked, it should show:
 
 |  |
 +--+
 | event log [v]|
 +--+
 |File transfers:[+]|
 +--+
 
 (to expand again, click [+])
 
 Ideas, suggestions ?
 
 Another idea would be to have the file transfer UI be embedded in the
 chatwindow, on the tab of the chat where the ft was started, but not
 in the conversation itself but on the right of it (where the dp of the
 user is).  This space is not used for anything else, and this way the
 FT stays with the chat.  As they have a link, they are easy to find
 this way. As FT's are not amsn's main activity and I don't see some
 users doing a lot of FT's together this would still be overseeable.
 
 Ideas here ? Suggestions ?
 
 
 Karel.
 
 2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Nooo ! ;)
 This idea from MSN is really bad : we always lost our FTs when we are in
 a deep conversation with someone. The FT Manager let us to see exactly
 what we have donloaded and so on...
 Phil

 Harry Vennik a écrit :
 I think this is a very good idea. Would be better than 1 window per FT.
 An alternative would be, to integrate the progress indication for FT
 into the chat window. (a progressbar etc. in the notification message
 that an FT invitation was sent).

 Op 28-mei-2007, om 11:25 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende geschreven:

 I mean FT Manager of course...

 On 28/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there any chance of a 'download manager' being added to the
 TODO? Cause I'd be wiling to work on that :)

 Tom


 On 11/05/07, *Youness Alaoui * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 I'll start this new thread about the 0.98 TODO. It is still
 very small now, and I hope it will get expanded with
 time. The 0.97 TODO is complete, 0.97 RC1 will be released
 soon (once we get the new smiley set lordzak/ubitux
 is doing), and we'll make a branch and start working on 0.98.
 So here's my current TODO list :

 - HIGH PRI : Implement the new preferences window
 - Implement a new chat window widget in snit with totally
 modular code and using events.
 - very nice idea : be able to record a message to be sent as
 voiceclip in the custom status/autoaway message :
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 http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272)



 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread Karel Demeyer
So in a seperate window for non-tabbed-window users and in what tabbed
window for ppl who use tabs per group ? Or only have the ft's of the
chats of a specific container in the FT tab of that container ? So an
FT tab per container ?
You can 't start FT's from that FT tab either, don't you ? Doesn't
this make it more difficult to find ? Or silly ?
This means I can't chat with a person and see the status of the FT on
the same moment ? I think it's very much needed to be able to see the
status while your chatting wityh the person who sent the file or
you're sending a file to! (this can be done with both my ideas and a
FT manager in a seperate window)

How is it simpler to make ?

The question I have when I choose between my 2 ideas, is is it needed
to see all downloads in 1 place ? ... will ppl have so much FT's all
together so it's a needed feature sto see 'm both ?  Because I'm not
yet sure of this I have two ideas.




2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I would have thought about a FTManager tab in the Chat Window...
 Simple to make and better to see all your transfers for every Chat
 Putting this in Main window is silly IMO as you can't start a FT from
 here...
 Phil

 Karel Demeyer a écrit :
  Idd.
 
 From a usability standpoint, I think it would be best to have all
  downloads in 1 FTmanager 'window', to avoid clutter and to make it
  overseeable. But I think it would be even better to embed this
  'window' in the main amsn window to avoid clutter.  In the caht window
  we could have a text saying (to check the status of this file
  transfer, see the main window).
  My idea is like this:
 
  |  |
  +--+
  | event log [v]|
  +--+
  |File transfers:[-]|
  +--+
  |Filename 1 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
  |  [===]   |
  | Open Cancel  |
  |  |
  |Filename 2 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
  |  [===]   |
  | Open Cancel  |
  +--+
 
  (watch with monospace font)
 
  when the [-] (button) is clicked, it should show:
 
  |  |
  +--+
  | event log [v]|
  +--+
  |File transfers:[+]|
  +--+
 
  (to expand again, click [+])
 
  Ideas, suggestions ?
 
  Another idea would be to have the file transfer UI be embedded in the
  chatwindow, on the tab of the chat where the ft was started, but not
  in the conversation itself but on the right of it (where the dp of the
  user is).  This space is not used for anything else, and this way the
  FT stays with the chat.  As they have a link, they are easy to find
  this way. As FT's are not amsn's main activity and I don't see some
  users doing a lot of FT's together this would still be overseeable.
 
  Ideas here ? Suggestions ?
 
 
  Karel.
 
  2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Nooo ! ;)
  This idea from MSN is really bad : we always lost our FTs when we are in
  a deep conversation with someone. The FT Manager let us to see exactly
  what we have donloaded and so on...
  Phil
 
  Harry Vennik a écrit :
  I think this is a very good idea. Would be better than 1 window per FT.
  An alternative would be, to integrate the progress indication for FT
  into the chat window. (a progressbar etc. in the notification message
  that an FT invitation was sent).
 
  Op 28-mei-2007, om 11:25 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende geschreven:
 
  I mean FT Manager of course...
 
  On 28/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Is there any chance of a 'download manager' being added to the
  TODO? Cause I'd be wiling to work on that :)
 
  Tom
 
 
  On 11/05/07, *Youness Alaoui * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi,
  I'll start this new thread about the 0.98 TODO. It is still
  very small now, and I hope it will get expanded with
  time. The 0.97 TODO is complete, 0.97 RC1 will be released
  soon (once we get the new smiley set lordzak/ubitux
  is doing), and we'll make a branch and start working on 0.98.
  So here's my current TODO list :
 
  - HIGH PRI : Implement the new preferences window
  - Implement a new chat window widget in snit with totally
  modular code and using events.
  - very nice idea : be able to record a message to be sent as
  voiceclip in the custom status/autoaway message :
  ( http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272
  http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272)
 
 
 
  
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Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread capricious . falcon

I agree with Karel - we should have a tab in the main window. That way,
if/when we have tabbed CLs for multiple logins then it can be just another
tab on the end..? Or maybe different...

On 28/05/07, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


So in a seperate window for non-tabbed-window users and in what tabbed
window for ppl who use tabs per group ? Or only have the ft's of the
chats of a specific container in the FT tab of that container ? So an
FT tab per container ?
You can 't start FT's from that FT tab either, don't you ? Doesn't
this make it more difficult to find ? Or silly ?
This means I can't chat with a person and see the status of the FT on
the same moment ? I think it's very much needed to be able to see the
status while your chatting wityh the person who sent the file or
you're sending a file to! (this can be done with both my ideas and a
FT manager in a seperate window)

How is it simpler to make ?

The question I have when I choose between my 2 ideas, is is it needed
to see all downloads in 1 place ? ... will ppl have so much FT's all
together so it's a needed feature sto see 'm both ?  Because I'm not
yet sure of this I have two ideas.




2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:
 I would have thought about a FTManager tab in the Chat Window...
 Simple to make and better to see all your transfers for every Chat
 Putting this in Main window is silly IMO as you can't start a FT from
 here...
 Phil

 Karel Demeyer a écrit :
  Idd.
 
 From a usability standpoint, I think it would be best to have all
  downloads in 1 FTmanager 'window', to avoid clutter and to make it
  overseeable. But I think it would be even better to embed this
  'window' in the main amsn window to avoid clutter.  In the caht window
  we could have a text saying (to check the status of this file
  transfer, see the main window).
  My idea is like this:
 
  |  |
  +--+
  | event log [v]|
  +--+
  |File transfers:[-]|
  +--+
  |Filename 1 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
  |  [===]   |
  | Open Cancel  |
  |  |
  |Filename 2 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
  |  [===]   |
  | Open Cancel  |
  +--+
 
  (watch with monospace font)
 
  when the [-] (button) is clicked, it should show:
 
  |  |
  +--+
  | event log [v]|
  +--+
  |File transfers:[+]|
  +--+
 
  (to expand again, click [+])
 
  Ideas, suggestions ?
 
  Another idea would be to have the file transfer UI be embedded in the
  chatwindow, on the tab of the chat where the ft was started, but not
  in the conversation itself but on the right of it (where the dp of the
  user is).  This space is not used for anything else, and this way the
  FT stays with the chat.  As they have a link, they are easy to find
  this way. As FT's are not amsn's main activity and I don't see some
  users doing a lot of FT's together this would still be overseeable.
 
  Ideas here ? Suggestions ?
 
 
  Karel.
 
  2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Nooo ! ;)
  This idea from MSN is really bad : we always lost our FTs when we are
in
  a deep conversation with someone. The FT Manager let us to see
exactly
  what we have donloaded and so on...
  Phil
 
  Harry Vennik a écrit :
  I think this is a very good idea. Would be better than 1 window per
FT.
  An alternative would be, to integrate the progress indication for FT
  into the chat window. (a progressbar etc. in the notification
message
  that an FT invitation was sent).
 
  Op 28-mei-2007, om 11:25 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende geschreven:
 
  I mean FT Manager of course...
 
  On 28/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Is there any chance of a 'download manager' being added to the
  TODO? Cause I'd be wiling to work on that :)
 
  Tom
 
 
  On 11/05/07, *Youness Alaoui * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi,
  I'll start this new thread about the 0.98 TODO. It is still
  very small now, and I hope it will get expanded with
  time. The 0.97 TODO is complete, 0.97 RC1 will be released
  soon (once we get the new smiley set lordzak/ubitux
  is doing), and we'll make a branch and start working on
0.98.
  So here's my current TODO list :
 
  - HIGH PRI : Implement the new preferences window
  - Implement a new chat window widget in snit with totally
  modular code and using events.
  - very nice idea : be able to record a message to be sent
as
  voiceclip in the custom status/autoaway message :
  ( 

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread Karel Demeyer
A tab in the main window ?  I'm sure most ppl would want to see their
contactlist all time while chatting.  If this is true, it makes it
again mpossible to chat and watch the status of the FT at the same
time.
Also, I dislike the idea of tabs for multiple account.  All contacts
of all account should be in 1 list.  It's not about account', IM is
about the contacts, right ?  you shouldn't care what account your
contact is on to reach him/her, just chat to her/him, right ?

This why I wanted it underneath the contactlist in the main window (in
my first idea).

Karel.


2007/5/28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I agree with Karel - we should have a tab in the main window. That way,
 if/when we have tabbed CLs for multiple logins then it can be just another
 tab on the end..? Or maybe different...


  On 28/05/07, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  So in a seperate window for non-tabbed-window users and in what tabbed
  window for ppl who use tabs per group ? Or only have the ft's of the
  chats of a specific container in the FT tab of that container ? So an
  FT tab per container ?
  You can 't start FT's from that FT tab either, don't you ? Doesn't
  this make it more difficult to find ? Or silly ?
  This means I can't chat with a person and see the status of the FT on
  the same moment ? I think it's very much needed to be able to see the
  status while your chatting wityh the person who sent the file or
  you're sending a file to! (this can be done with both my ideas and a
  FT manager in a seperate window)
 
  How is it simpler to make ?
 
  The question I have when I choose between my 2 ideas, is is it needed
  to see all downloads in 1 place ? ... will ppl have so much FT's all
  together so it's a needed feature sto see 'm both ?  Because I'm not
  yet sure of this I have two ideas.
 
 
 
 
  2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   I would have thought about a FTManager tab in the Chat Window...
   Simple to make and better to see all your transfers for every Chat
   Putting this in Main window is silly IMO as you can't start a FT from
   here...
   Phil
  
   Karel Demeyer a écrit :
Idd.
   
   From a usability standpoint, I think it would be best to have all
downloads in 1 FTmanager 'window', to avoid clutter and to make it
overseeable. But I think it would be even better to embed this
'window' in the main amsn window to avoid clutter.  In the caht window
we could have a text saying (to check the status of this file
transfer, see the main window).
My idea is like this:
   
|  |
+--+
| event log [v]|
+--+
|File transfers:[-]|
+--+
|Filename 1 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
|  [===]   |
| Open Cancel  |
|  |
|Filename 2 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
|  [===]   |
| Open Cancel  |
+--+
   
(watch with monospace font)
   
when the [-] (button) is clicked, it should show:
   
|  |
+--+
| event log [v]|
+--+
|File transfers:[+]|
+--+
   
(to expand again, click [+])
   
Ideas, suggestions ?
   
Another idea would be to have the file transfer UI be embedded in the
chatwindow, on the tab of the chat where the ft was started, but not
in the conversation itself but on the right of it (where the dp of the
user is).  This space is not used for anything else, and this way the
FT stays with the chat.  As they have a link, they are easy to find
this way. As FT's are not amsn's main activity and I don't see some
users doing a lot of FT's together this would still be overseeable.
   
Ideas here ? Suggestions ?
   
   
Karel.
   
2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Nooo ! ;)
This idea from MSN is really bad : we always lost our FTs when we are
 in
a deep conversation with someone. The FT Manager let us to see
 exactly
what we have donloaded and so on...
Phil
   
Harry Vennik a écrit :
I think this is a very good idea. Would be better than 1 window per
 FT.
An alternative would be, to integrate the progress indication for FT
into the chat window. (a progressbar etc. in the notification
 message
that an FT invitation was sent).
   
Op 28-mei-2007, om 11:25 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende geschreven:
   
I mean FT Manager of course...
   
On 28/05/07, * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Is there any chance of a 'download manager' being added to the
TODO? Cause I'd be wiling to work on that :)
   
Tom
   
   
   

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread Harry Vennik
Hmm, I don't see the point of putting the FT manager in the CL  
Window, it has simply nothing to do with the CL.
I'd say we'd either embed it in the chat as I suggested (but Phil  
rejected that already), or have a separate FT manager window, just to  
have all FT's in one window, and to keep some FT history (so when you  
know that Mr X sent you some file yesterday, you can open the FT  
window, and you can see the completed FT from Mr X there...). Also it  
would be nice to have some way (right-click menu?) there that allows  
you to move the file from 'amsn received files' to somewhere else, or  
delete the file. This will allow a user to accept an FT, open the  
file to see if he likes it, if yes, put it in some sensible location,  
otherwise delete it. The look of the window could be similar to the  
Downloads window in Firefox or Safari.


Harry

Op 28-mei-2007, om 14:58 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] het  
volgende geschreven:


I agree with Karel - we should have a tab in the main window. That  
way, if/when we have tabbed CLs for multiple logins then it can be  
just another tab on the end..? Or maybe different...


On 28/05/07, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So in a seperate window for non-tabbed-window users and in what tabbed
window for ppl who use tabs per group ? Or only have the ft's of the
chats of a specific container in the FT tab of that container ? So an
FT tab per container ?
You can 't start FT's from that FT tab either, don't you ? Doesn't
this make it more difficult to find ? Or silly ?
This means I can't chat with a person and see the status of the FT on
the same moment ? I think it's very much needed to be able to see the
status while your chatting wityh the person who sent the file or
you're sending a file to! (this can be done with both my ideas and a
FT manager in a seperate window)

How is it simpler to make ?

The question I have when I choose between my 2 ideas, is is it needed
to see all downloads in 1 place ? ... will ppl have so much FT's all
together so it's a needed feature sto see 'm both ?  Because I'm not
yet sure of this I have two ideas.




2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil   
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I would have thought about a FTManager tab in the Chat Window...
 Simple to make and better to see all your transfers for every Chat
 Putting this in Main window is silly IMO as you can't start a FT  
from

 here...
 Phil

 Karel Demeyer a écrit :
  Idd.
 
 From a usability standpoint, I think it would be best to have all
  downloads in 1 FTmanager 'window', to avoid clutter and to make it
  overseeable. But I think it would be even better to embed this
  'window' in the main amsn window to avoid clutter.  In the caht  
window

  we could have a text saying (to check the status of this file
  transfer, see the main window).
  My idea is like this:
 
  |  |
  +--+
  | event log [v]|
  +--+
  |File transfers:[-]|
  +--+
  |Filename 1 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
  |  [===]   |
  | Open Cancel  |
  |  |
  |Filename 2 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
  |  [===]   |
  | Open Cancel  |
  +--+
 
  (watch with monospace font)
 
  when the [-] (button) is clicked, it should show:
 
  |  |
  +--+
  | event log [v]|
  +--+
  |File transfers:[+]|
  +--+
 
  (to expand again, click [+])
 
  Ideas, suggestions ?
 
  Another idea would be to have the file transfer UI be embedded  
in the
  chatwindow, on the tab of the chat where the ft was started,  
but not
  in the conversation itself but on the right of it (where the dp  
of the
  user is).  This space is not used for anything else, and this  
way the
  FT stays with the chat.  As they have a link, they are easy to  
find
  this way. As FT's are not amsn's main activity and I don't see  
some
  users doing a lot of FT's together this would still be  
overseeable.

 
  Ideas here ? Suggestions ?
 
 
  Karel.
 
  2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil   
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Nooo ! ;)
  This idea from MSN is really bad : we always lost our FTs when  
we are in
  a deep conversation with someone. The FT Manager let us to see  
exactly

  what we have donloaded and so on...
  Phil
 
  Harry Vennik a écrit :
  I think this is a very good idea. Would be better than 1  
window per FT.
  An alternative would be, to integrate the progress indication  
for FT
  into the chat window. (a progressbar etc. in the notification  
message

  that an FT invitation was sent).
 
  Op 28-mei-2007, om 11:25 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende geschreven:
 
  I mean FT Manager of course...
 
  On 28/05/07, * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*   
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread tonighx
multiple logins in one window? I don't understand that
I use multiple logins when I have friens at home that want to connect.
each login is completely indepent :-s

apart this IMO a separate FT window is much better than all other
proposed solutions

2007/5/28, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 A tab in the main window ?  I'm sure most ppl would want to see their
 contactlist all time while chatting.  If this is true, it makes it
 again mpossible to chat and watch the status of the FT at the same
 time.
 Also, I dislike the idea of tabs for multiple account.  All contacts
 of all account should be in 1 list.  It's not about account', IM is
 about the contacts, right ?  you shouldn't care what account your
 contact is on to reach him/her, just chat to her/him, right ?

 This why I wanted it underneath the contactlist in the main window (in
 my first idea).

 Karel.


 2007/5/28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I agree with Karel - we should have a tab in the main window. That way,
  if/when we have tabbed CLs for multiple logins then it can be just another
  tab on the end..? Or maybe different...
 
 
   On 28/05/07, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   So in a seperate window for non-tabbed-window users and in what tabbed
   window for ppl who use tabs per group ? Or only have the ft's of the
   chats of a specific container in the FT tab of that container ? So an
   FT tab per container ?
   You can 't start FT's from that FT tab either, don't you ? Doesn't
   this make it more difficult to find ? Or silly ?
   This means I can't chat with a person and see the status of the FT on
   the same moment ? I think it's very much needed to be able to see the
   status while your chatting wityh the person who sent the file or
   you're sending a file to! (this can be done with both my ideas and a
   FT manager in a seperate window)
  
   How is it simpler to make ?
  
   The question I have when I choose between my 2 ideas, is is it needed
   to see all downloads in 1 place ? ... will ppl have so much FT's all
   together so it's a needed feature sto see 'm both ?  Because I'm not
   yet sure of this I have two ideas.
  
  
  
  
   2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I would have thought about a FTManager tab in the Chat Window...
Simple to make and better to see all your transfers for every Chat
Putting this in Main window is silly IMO as you can't start a FT from
here...
Phil
   
Karel Demeyer a écrit :
 Idd.

From a usability standpoint, I think it would be best to have all
 downloads in 1 FTmanager 'window', to avoid clutter and to make it
 overseeable. But I think it would be even better to embed this
 'window' in the main amsn window to avoid clutter.  In the caht window
 we could have a text saying (to check the status of this file
 transfer, see the main window).
 My idea is like this:

 |  |
 +--+
 | event log [v]|
 +--+
 |File transfers:[-]|
 +--+
 |Filename 1 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
 |  [===]   |
 | Open Cancel  |
 |  |
 |Filename 2 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
 |  [===]   |
 | Open Cancel  |
 +--+

 (watch with monospace font)

 when the [-] (button) is clicked, it should show:

 |  |
 +--+
 | event log [v]|
 +--+
 |File transfers:[+]|
 +--+

 (to expand again, click [+])

 Ideas, suggestions ?

 Another idea would be to have the file transfer UI be embedded in the
 chatwindow, on the tab of the chat where the ft was started, but not
 in the conversation itself but on the right of it (where the dp of the
 user is).  This space is not used for anything else, and this way the
 FT stays with the chat.  As they have a link, they are easy to find
 this way. As FT's are not amsn's main activity and I don't see some
 users doing a lot of FT's together this would still be overseeable.

 Ideas here ? Suggestions ?


 Karel.

 2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Nooo ! ;)
 This idea from MSN is really bad : we always lost our FTs when we are
  in
 a deep conversation with someone. The FT Manager let us to see
  exactly
 what we have donloaded and so on...
 Phil

 Harry Vennik a écrit :
 I think this is a very good idea. Would be better than 1 window per
  FT.
 An alternative would be, to integrate the progress indication for FT
 into the chat window. (a progressbar etc. in the notification
  message
 that an FT invitation was sent).

 Op 

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread Karel Demeyer
That's a whole other story.  I was talking about having more then 1
account in an aMSN profile.  Having multiple profiles would still be
possible this way.  Othjer profiles should have their own window, not
a tab on teh window of the other profile so you can have 1 amsn
profile on a workspace and another (from a friend) on another
workspace for example.

2007/5/28, tonighx [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 multiple logins in one window? I don't understand that
 I use multiple logins when I have friens at home that want to connect.
 each login is completely indepent :-s

 apart this IMO a separate FT window is much better than all other
 proposed solutions

 2007/5/28, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  A tab in the main window ?  I'm sure most ppl would want to see their
  contactlist all time while chatting.  If this is true, it makes it
  again mpossible to chat and watch the status of the FT at the same
  time.
  Also, I dislike the idea of tabs for multiple account.  All contacts
  of all account should be in 1 list.  It's not about account', IM is
  about the contacts, right ?  you shouldn't care what account your
  contact is on to reach him/her, just chat to her/him, right ?
 
  This why I wanted it underneath the contactlist in the main window (in
  my first idea).
 
  Karel.
 
 
  2007/5/28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   I agree with Karel - we should have a tab in the main window. That way,
   if/when we have tabbed CLs for multiple logins then it can be just another
   tab on the end..? Or maybe different...
  
  
On 28/05/07, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So in a seperate window for non-tabbed-window users and in what tabbed
window for ppl who use tabs per group ? Or only have the ft's of the
chats of a specific container in the FT tab of that container ? So an
FT tab per container ?
You can 't start FT's from that FT tab either, don't you ? Doesn't
this make it more difficult to find ? Or silly ?
This means I can't chat with a person and see the status of the FT on
the same moment ? I think it's very much needed to be able to see the
status while your chatting wityh the person who sent the file or
you're sending a file to! (this can be done with both my ideas and a
FT manager in a seperate window)
   
How is it simpler to make ?
   
The question I have when I choose between my 2 ideas, is is it needed
to see all downloads in 1 place ? ... will ppl have so much FT's all
together so it's a needed feature sto see 'm both ?  Because I'm not
yet sure of this I have two ideas.
   
   
   
   
2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I would have thought about a FTManager tab in the Chat Window...
 Simple to make and better to see all your transfers for every Chat
 Putting this in Main window is silly IMO as you can't start a FT from
 here...
 Phil

 Karel Demeyer a écrit :
  Idd.
 
 From a usability standpoint, I think it would be best to have all
  downloads in 1 FTmanager 'window', to avoid clutter and to make it
  overseeable. But I think it would be even better to embed this
  'window' in the main amsn window to avoid clutter.  In the caht 
  window
  we could have a text saying (to check the status of this file
  transfer, see the main window).
  My idea is like this:
 
  |  |
  +--+
  | event log [v]|
  +--+
  |File transfers:[-]|
  +--+
  |Filename 1 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
  |  [===]   |
  | Open Cancel  |
  |  |
  |Filename 2 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
  |  [===]   |
  | Open Cancel  |
  +--+
 
  (watch with monospace font)
 
  when the [-] (button) is clicked, it should show:
 
  |  |
  +--+
  | event log [v]|
  +--+
  |File transfers:[+]|
  +--+
 
  (to expand again, click [+])
 
  Ideas, suggestions ?
 
  Another idea would be to have the file transfer UI be embedded in 
  the
  chatwindow, on the tab of the chat where the ft was started, but not
  in the conversation itself but on the right of it (where the dp of 
  the
  user is).  This space is not used for anything else, and this way 
  the
  FT stays with the chat.  As they have a link, they are easy to find
  this way. As FT's are not amsn's main activity and I don't see some
  users doing a lot of FT's together this would still be overseeable.
 
  Ideas here ? Suggestions ?
 
 
  Karel.
 
  2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread Harry Vennik

Op 28-mei-2007, om 15:30 heeft Karel Demeyer het volgende geschreven:

 2007/5/28, Harry Vennik [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hmm, I don't see the point of putting the FT manager in the CL  
 Window, it
 has simply nothing to do with the CL.

 The main window is not only about the CL, it's about aMSN on it's  
 whole !

Hmm, I wonder if many users would think of it that way. At least I  
don't.


 I'd say we'd either embed it in the chat as I suggested (but Phil  
 rejected
 that already),
 As it would scroll away and make it impossible to watch while  
 chatting.


That's true, but why would you watch it all the time? Because of the  
nice progressbar with changing color? (j/k)
Of course, you might want to check if the transfer has finished, but  
I won't mind scrolling back for that.
There is one other problem however (which applies to some other  
proposed solutions too): What to do when the CW is closed before the  
FT completes?

 or have a separate FT manager window, just to have all FT's
 in one window, and to keep some FT history (so when you know that  
 Mr X sent
 you some file yesterday, you can open the FT window, and you can  
 see the
 completed FT from Mr X there...). Also it would be nice to have  
 some way
 (right-click menu?) there that allows you to move the file from 'amsn
 received files' to somewhere else, or delete the file. This will  
 allow a
 user to accept an FT, open the file to see if he likes it, if yes,  
 put it in
 some sensible location, otherwise delete it. The look of the  
 window could be
 similar to the Downloads window in Firefox or Safari.

 Which is all possible in my 1st idea, without having yet another
 window open.  This way, there's no ned to search for the window in you
 window manager, it's in teh main amsn window most users will have on
 their screen while using amsn anyway.

I know that's possible, but I just wouldn't like to have that stuff  
in my CL window.


 Harry


 Op 28-mei-2007, om 14:58 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] het  
 volgende
 geschreven:

 I agree with Karel - we should have a tab in the main window. That  
 way,
 if/when we have tabbed CLs for multiple logins then it can be just  
 another
 tab on the end..? Or maybe different...

  On 28/05/07, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So in a seperate window for non-tabbed-window users and in what  
 tabbed
 window for ppl who use tabs per group ? Or only have the ft's of the
 chats of a specific container in the FT tab of that container ?  
 So an
 FT tab per container ?
 You can 't start FT's from that FT tab either, don't you ? Doesn't
 this make it more difficult to find ? Or silly ?
 This means I can't chat with a person and see the status of the  
 FT on
 the same moment ? I think it's very much needed to be able to see  
 the
 status while your chatting wityh the person who sent the file or
 you're sending a file to! (this can be done with both my ideas and a
 FT manager in a seperate window)

 How is it simpler to make ?

 The question I have when I choose between my 2 ideas, is is it  
 needed
 to see all downloads in 1 place ? ... will ppl have so much FT's  
 all
 together so it's a needed feature sto see 'm both ?  Because I'm not
 yet sure of this I have two ideas.




 2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I would have thought about a FTManager tab in the Chat Window...
 Simple to make and better to see all your transfers for every Chat
 Putting this in Main window is silly IMO as you can't start a FT  
 from
 here...
 Phil

 Karel Demeyer a écrit :
 Idd.

 From a usability standpoint, I think it would be best to have all
 downloads in 1 FTmanager 'window', to avoid clutter and to make it
 overseeable. But I think it would be even better to embed this
 'window' in the main amsn window to avoid clutter.  In the caht  
 window
 we could have a text saying (to check the status of this file
 transfer, see the main window).
 My idea is like this:

 |  |
 +--+
 | event log [v]|
 +--+
 |File transfers:[-]|
 +--+
 |Filename 1 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
 |  [===]   |
 | Open Cancel  |
 |  |
 |Filename 2 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
 |  [===]   |
 | Open Cancel  |
 +--+

 (watch with monospace font)

 when the [-] (button) is clicked, it should show:

 |  |
 +--+
 | event log [v]|
 +--+
 |File transfers:[+]|
 +--+

 (to expand again, click [+])

 Ideas, suggestions ?

 Another idea would be to have the file transfer UI be embedded  
 in the
 chatwindow, on the tab of the chat where the ft was started,  
 but not
 in the conversation itself but on the right of it (where the dp  
 of the
 user is).  This space is not used for anything else, and this  
 way the
 

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread Philippe Valembois - Phil
I dislike the separated Window and Main Window for FT because like Karel
I don't like to search 100 years for a window but I often only keep my
chat window open...
The most logical would be to have FTs near the chat window of the bound
contact so I would say a FT tab for each container and for users who
don't use tabs add one especially for FT ? (I am not sure for this last one)
Anyway, when I want to chat I don't want to have the side of a window
taken by the download manager : don't forget that's a huge window so how
would you integreate this near the chat window...
Unlike Live we provide several informations/options for each file...
About moving file, I don't know if we can display a directory browser
but idea seems interesting but not using a right clic (think about Mac
user and their Command-click) and that's so better to provide a button
like we have already for other actions...
Phil

Karel Demeyer a écrit :
 2007/5/28, Harry Vennik [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hmm, I don't see the point of putting the FT manager in the CL Window, it
 has simply nothing to do with the CL.
 
 The main window is not only about the CL, it's about aMSN on it's whole !
 
 I'd say we'd either embed it in the chat as I suggested (but Phil rejected
 that already),
 As it would scroll away and make it impossible to watch while chatting.
 
 or have a separate FT manager window, just to have all FT's
 in one window, and to keep some FT history (so when you know that Mr X sent
 you some file yesterday, you can open the FT window, and you can see the
 completed FT from Mr X there...). Also it would be nice to have some way
 (right-click menu?) there that allows you to move the file from 'amsn
 received files' to somewhere else, or delete the file. This will allow a
 user to accept an FT, open the file to see if he likes it, if yes, put it in
 some sensible location, otherwise delete it. The look of the window could be
 similar to the Downloads window in Firefox or Safari.
 
 Which is all possible in my 1st idea, without having yet another
 window open.  This way, there's no ned to search for the window in you
 window manager, it's in teh main amsn window most users will have on
 their screen while using amsn anyway.
 Harry


 Op 28-mei-2007, om 14:58 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende
 geschreven:

 I agree with Karel - we should have a tab in the main window. That way,
 if/when we have tabbed CLs for multiple logins then it can be just another
 tab on the end..? Or maybe different...

  On 28/05/07, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So in a seperate window for non-tabbed-window users and in what tabbed
 window for ppl who use tabs per group ? Or only have the ft's of the
 chats of a specific container in the FT tab of that container ? So an
 FT tab per container ?
 You can 't start FT's from that FT tab either, don't you ? Doesn't
 this make it more difficult to find ? Or silly ?
 This means I can't chat with a person and see the status of the FT on
 the same moment ? I think it's very much needed to be able to see the
 status while your chatting wityh the person who sent the file or
 you're sending a file to! (this can be done with both my ideas and a
 FT manager in a seperate window)

 How is it simpler to make ?

 The question I have when I choose between my 2 ideas, is is it needed
 to see all downloads in 1 place ? ... will ppl have so much FT's all
 together so it's a needed feature sto see 'm both ?  Because I'm not
 yet sure of this I have two ideas.




 2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I would have thought about a FTManager tab in the Chat Window...
 Simple to make and better to see all your transfers for every Chat
 Putting this in Main window is silly IMO as you can't start a FT from
 here...
 Phil

 Karel Demeyer a écrit :
 Idd.

 From a usability standpoint, I think it would be best to have all
 downloads in 1 FTmanager 'window', to avoid clutter and to make it
 overseeable. But I think it would be even better to embed this
 'window' in the main amsn window to avoid clutter.  In the caht window
 we could have a text saying (to check the status of this file
 transfer, see the main window).
 My idea is like this:

 |  |
 +--+
 | event log [v]|
 +--+
 |File transfers:[-]|
 +--+
 |Filename 1 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
 |  [===]   |
 | Open Cancel  |
 |  |
 |Filename 2 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
 |  [===]   |
 | Open Cancel  |
 +--+

 (watch with monospace font)

 when the [-] (button) is clicked, it should show:

 |  |
 +--+
 | event log [v]|
 +--+
 |File transfers:[+]|
 +--+

 (to expand again, click [+])

 Ideas, suggestions ?

 Another idea would be to have the file 

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread Tom Hennigan
I like the idea of a firefox style download manager. (In a separate  
window). This way the CL isn't too cluttered. Maybe we could have an  
option to show active FTs in the CL and double clicking an FT in the  
CL would bring up the download manager window (selecting the chosen  
transfer).. but I think having the whole download manager there is  
too much..


On 28 May 2007, at 14:17, Harry Vennik wrote:

Hmm, I don't see the point of putting the FT manager in the CL  
Window, it has simply nothing to do with the CL.
I'd say we'd either embed it in the chat as I suggested (but Phil  
rejected that already), or have a separate FT manager window, just  
to have all FT's in one window, and to keep some FT history (so  
when you know that Mr X sent you some file yesterday, you can open  
the FT window, and you can see the completed FT from Mr X  
there...). Also it would be nice to have some way (right-click  
menu?) there that allows you to move the file from 'amsn received  
files' to somewhere else, or delete the file. This will allow a  
user to accept an FT, open the file to see if he likes it, if yes,  
put it in some sensible location, otherwise delete it. The look of  
the window could be similar to the Downloads window in Firefox or  
Safari.


Harry

Op 28-mei-2007, om 14:58 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] het  
volgende geschreven:


I agree with Karel - we should have a tab in the main window. That  
way, if/when we have tabbed CLs for multiple logins then it can be  
just another tab on the end..? Or maybe different...


On 28/05/07, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So in a seperate window for non-tabbed-window users and in what  
tabbed

window for ppl who use tabs per group ? Or only have the ft's of the
chats of a specific container in the FT tab of that container ? So an
FT tab per container ?
You can 't start FT's from that FT tab either, don't you ? Doesn't
this make it more difficult to find ? Or silly ?
This means I can't chat with a person and see the status of the FT on
the same moment ? I think it's very much needed to be able to see the
status while your chatting wityh the person who sent the file or
you're sending a file to! (this can be done with both my ideas and a
FT manager in a seperate window)

How is it simpler to make ?

The question I have when I choose between my 2 ideas, is is it  
needed

to see all downloads in 1 place ? ... will ppl have so much FT's all
together so it's a needed feature sto see 'm both ?  Because I'm not
yet sure of this I have two ideas.




2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil   
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I would have thought about a FTManager tab in the Chat Window...
 Simple to make and better to see all your transfers for every Chat
 Putting this in Main window is silly IMO as you can't start a FT  
from

 here...
 Phil

 Karel Demeyer a écrit :
  Idd.
 
 From a usability standpoint, I think it would be best to have all
  downloads in 1 FTmanager 'window', to avoid clutter and to  
make it

  overseeable. But I think it would be even better to embed this
  'window' in the main amsn window to avoid clutter.  In the  
caht window

  we could have a text saying (to check the status of this file
  transfer, see the main window).
  My idea is like this:
 
  |  |
  +--+
  | event log [v]|
  +--+
  |File transfers:[-]|
  +--+
  |Filename 1 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
  |  [===]   |
  | Open Cancel  |
  |  |
  |Filename 2 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
  |  [===]   |
  | Open Cancel  |
  +--+
 
  (watch with monospace font)
 
  when the [-] (button) is clicked, it should show:
 
  |  |
  +--+
  | event log [v]|
  +--+
  |File transfers:[+]|
  +--+
 
  (to expand again, click [+])
 
  Ideas, suggestions ?
 
  Another idea would be to have the file transfer UI be embedded  
in the
  chatwindow, on the tab of the chat where the ft was started,  
but not
  in the conversation itself but on the right of it (where the  
dp of the
  user is).  This space is not used for anything else, and this  
way the
  FT stays with the chat.  As they have a link, they are easy to  
find
  this way. As FT's are not amsn's main activity and I don't see  
some
  users doing a lot of FT's together this would still be  
overseeable.

 
  Ideas here ? Suggestions ?
 
 
  Karel.
 
  2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil   
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Nooo ! ;)
  This idea from MSN is really bad : we always lost our FTs  
when we are in
  a deep conversation with someone. The FT Manager let us to  
see exactly

  what we have donloaded and so on...
  Phil
 
  Harry Vennik a écrit :
  I think this is a very good idea. Would be better than 1  
window per FT.
  An alternative would 

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread Youness Alaoui
that's indeed a whole other story, and totally off topic here.  We're far from 
implementing multi accounts in 
one process so no need to waste time discussing this


On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 03:32:08PM +0200, Karel Demeyer wrote:
 That's a whole other story.  I was talking about having more then 1
 account in an aMSN profile.  Having multiple profiles would still be
 possible this way.  Othjer profiles should have their own window, not
 a tab on teh window of the other profile so you can have 1 amsn
 profile on a workspace and another (from a friend) on another
 workspace for example.
 
 2007/5/28, tonighx [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  multiple logins in one window? I don't understand that
  I use multiple logins when I have friens at home that want to connect.
  each login is completely indepent :-s
 
  apart this IMO a separate FT window is much better than all other
  proposed solutions
 
  2007/5/28, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   A tab in the main window ?  I'm sure most ppl would want to see their
   contactlist all time while chatting.  If this is true, it makes it
   again mpossible to chat and watch the status of the FT at the same
   time.
   Also, I dislike the idea of tabs for multiple account.  All contacts
   of all account should be in 1 list.  It's not about account', IM is
   about the contacts, right ?  you shouldn't care what account your
   contact is on to reach him/her, just chat to her/him, right ?
  
   This why I wanted it underneath the contactlist in the main window (in
   my first idea).
  
   Karel.
  
  
   2007/5/28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I agree with Karel - we should have a tab in the main window. That way,
if/when we have tabbed CLs for multiple logins then it can be just 
another
tab on the end..? Or maybe different...
   
   
 On 28/05/07, Karel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So in a seperate window for non-tabbed-window users and in what tabbed
 window for ppl who use tabs per group ? Or only have the ft's of the
 chats of a specific container in the FT tab of that container ? So an
 FT tab per container ?
 You can 't start FT's from that FT tab either, don't you ? Doesn't
 this make it more difficult to find ? Or silly ?
 This means I can't chat with a person and see the status of the FT on
 the same moment ? I think it's very much needed to be able to see the
 status while your chatting wityh the person who sent the file or
 you're sending a file to! (this can be done with both my ideas and a
 FT manager in a seperate window)

 How is it simpler to make ?

 The question I have when I choose between my 2 ideas, is is it needed
 to see all downloads in 1 place ? ... will ppl have so much FT's all
 together so it's a needed feature sto see 'm both ?  Because I'm not
 yet sure of this I have two ideas.




 2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I would have thought about a FTManager tab in the Chat Window...
  Simple to make and better to see all your transfers for every Chat
  Putting this in Main window is silly IMO as you can't start a FT 
  from
  here...
  Phil
 
  Karel Demeyer a écrit :
   Idd.
  
  From a usability standpoint, I think it would be best to have all
   downloads in 1 FTmanager 'window', to avoid clutter and to make it
   overseeable. But I think it would be even better to embed this
   'window' in the main amsn window to avoid clutter.  In the caht 
   window
   we could have a text saying (to check the status of this file
   transfer, see the main window).
   My idea is like this:
  
   |  |
   +--+
   | event log [v]|
   +--+
   |File transfers:[-]|
   +--+
   |Filename 1 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
   |  [===]   |
   | Open Cancel  |
   |  |
   |Filename 2 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
   |  [===]   |
   | Open Cancel  |
   +--+
  
   (watch with monospace font)
  
   when the [-] (button) is clicked, it should show:
  
   |  |
   +--+
   | event log [v]|
   +--+
   |File transfers:[+]|
   +--+
  
   (to expand again, click [+])
  
   Ideas, suggestions ?
  
   Another idea would be to have the file transfer UI be embedded in 
   the
   chatwindow, on the tab of the chat where the ft was started, but 
   not
   in the conversation itself but on the right of it (where the dp 
   of the
   user is).  This space is not used for anything else, and this way 
   the
 

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-28 Thread Youness Alaoui
I fully disagree with Karel. 
You first wanted to put the spaces in the CL and now the FTs ? what is it with 
your obcession on the CL ? let it 
be what it is : a CONTACT list, nothing more.maybe you have your CL as always 
on top and have a dual screen 
specially to put your CL on it and you want all the info there, but in my case 
and in the case of many people, 
no, the CL is only opened when you want to start a chat, you don't need it if 
you don't want to see who's 
online. Some people also always want their CL maximized, whether it is because 
they are used to maximized 
windows or maybe because they want to see their contact's full nicknames 
without truncation, but in any case, 
the CL is NOT the place for that. Maybe you think it's better for usability, 
but I would say it's better for YOU 
and usability, but not everyone uses it the same way as you do. And I think 
that 'simple' is better than 'save a 
few eye movements'. Seriously, how many people do you think will be completely 
lost and confused if they start a 
chat and it pops up in their contact list, huh ???
The spaces in CL is acceptable because it's info about the contacts, but still, 
I still disagree.. but now, FTs 
in the CL? I completely disagree. 
As Harry said below, I wonder how many users would think of it that way (main 
window is not about the CL).

Now, don't worry, everything you said didn't go to waste, it just helped 
everyone here brainstorm on a usable 
solution. And many issues were reported already. If I can summarize it, I would 
say that we have :
1 - what to do in case no tabs, or tabs per group ?
2 - create a new window or a new tab in a container ? in that case which 
container ?
3 - do we want inside the CW or as a new download manager window separate ? 
4 - what happens if we close the CW and the chat is still open ? 

I don't know if I put everything... anyways, I kind of have a solution that I 
hope everyone will like. I suggest 
to do both in CW and as a separate download manager. 
So, I would very much like a download manager like firefox/pidgin that would be 
awesome and everyone will love 
it! where to open it ? I guess we could open it wherever we want, right ? 
1 - if no tabs, then open a new window with it
2 - if tabs, then open it as a new tab
3 - if a container per group, then we could have it appear as a tab in EACH 
container.
Think about Opera for example, you press Ctrl-Alt-T (the hotkey) which opens 
the transfer manager/window. it's a 
new tab that gets opened in the window you are in. Yes, opera can have as many 
windows as you want, and each 
'window' can have as many tabs as you want. If you open a transfer in window 1, 
then the transfer manager opens 
as a new tab in window 1, if you open a transfer in window 2, the transfer 
manager then opens up in window 2. It 
stays open in window 1 and 2, they both look the same and they both have the 
same info. it's just a kind of 
'duplicate' of the window. 
So whoever codes the download manager, when he does the snit object, he must 
make sure that it can be 'hooked' 
into multiple widgets. like for example we would do :
DownloadManager create DM1
DM1 setParent $w1 $w2
DM1 addTransfer $contact $filename 
and in DownloadManager, we would do for example :
method addTransfer { ... } {
 ;# process whatever we want to process
 $self updateWidget
}
method updateWidget {} {
   foreach w $parents {
  update $w
   }
}

anyways, I'm not saying it should be done like that, but just saying we should 
keep in mind that it can have 
multiple parents. 

Ok, so now, that's my solution about the tabs/tabs per group/no tabs. And just 
so you know, it may seem weird or 
you might say  but it's more confusing, multiple windows for the same thing, 
I would say that you're wrong, 
it's not confusing, I found it perfectly normal with Opera. I want to keep two 
windows, one for work related 
tabs and one for amsn forums tabs for example, well, if I transfer something, I 
want to see it right here, next 
to my current tab, I don't want it to switch to a different window. Also, most 
people won't even notice, when 
you're on container 1, and you open transfer window, it opens up next to your 
current tab, you're happy, you 
don't even think about oh, didn't I have another one on some other container 
somewhere.

Anyways. Next for the next solution. The transfers in the CW. I see it pretty 
simple, keep them in the CW, but 
not 'scrollable'. I would suggest maybe putting some small, little frame 
between the buttonbar and the output 
text widget. Something that doesn't scroll up, not much info in it, it 
shouldn't bother the user, a simple line 
in a small font, maybe 10 pixels high (per file), something like Azureus' 
download bar (you open a download 
bar 'always on top' gives you very small info about a download and you can put 
it anywhere on your desktop and 
minimize Azureus, it's probably 10 pixels heigh not more), I can send a 
screenshot anytime. 
So, you 

Re: [Amsn-devel] Bug on start

2007-05-28 Thread Youness Alaoui
LOL @ ps..


On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 10:23:38AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Okay, sorry :) I do normally read the forums. Although I checked there after
 you suggested it and found nothing :S Oh well, I'll update my tcl/tk later
 today.
 
 Thanks!
 Tom
 
 ps: Are you calling me INACTIVE? :@ Well, I am, so I suppose I can't
 complain... :D
 
 On 27/05/07, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 Forums ? :d
 In some words, update your tcl/tk to 8.5a6 or better
 Even inactive devels should read forums :d
 Phil
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
  Error in startup script: extra characters after close-brace
  while executing
  set command
 [list  $self  {*}$Snit_optionInfo(configure-$option)  $option]
  
  (procedure snit::RT.CacheConfigureCommand  line 36)
  invoked from within
  snit::RT.CacheConfigureCommand  $type $selfns $win $self $option
  (procedure ::snit::RT.method.configurelist line 7)
  invoked from within
  ::snit::RT.method.configurelist $type $selfns $win $self $args
  (procedure ::snit::RT.method.configure line 4)
  invoked from within
  $self configure -width $arrow1width
  (procedure ::pixmapscrollbar::Snit_constructor line 154)
  invoked from within
  ::pixmapscrollbar::Snit_constructor ::pixmapscrollbar
  ::pixmapscrollbar::Snit_inst1 .plugins_log.ys .plugins_log.ys -command
  {.plugins_log.info yview}
  (eval body line 1)
  invoked from within
  eval [linsert $arglist 0  ${type}::Snit_constructor $type $selfns
  $instance $instance]
  (procedure RT.ConstructInstance line 9)
  invoked from within
  RT.ConstructInstance $type $selfns $name $args
  (procedure ::snit::RT.widget.typemethod.create line 53)
  invoked from within
  scrollbar $window.ys -command $window.info yview
  (procedure ::pluginslog::draw line 12)
  invoked from within
  ::pluginslog::draw
  invoked from within
  if { $initialize_amsn == 1 } {
   ::pluginslog::draw
  }
  (file pluginslog.tcl line 210)
  invoked from within
  source pluginslog.tcl
  (uplevel body line 27)
  invoked from within
  uplevel \#0 {
 
  # amsncore.tcl is already loaded but we'll re-source it here in
  case we manually do reload_files
  source amsncore.tcl
  source audio.tc...
  (procedure reload_files line 2)
  invoked from within
  reload_files
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Re: [Amsn-devel] Bug on start

2007-05-28 Thread Philippe Valembois - Phil
I didn't even notice the PS...
Be happy as I could have put retired :p
Phil

Youness Alaoui a écrit :
 LOL @ ps..
 
 
 On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 10:23:38AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Okay, sorry :) I do normally read the forums. Although I checked there after
 you suggested it and found nothing :S Oh well, I'll update my tcl/tk later
 today.

 Thanks!
 Tom

 ps: Are you calling me INACTIVE? :@ Well, I am, so I suppose I can't
 complain... :D

 On 27/05/07, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 Forums ? :d
 In some words, update your tcl/tk to 8.5a6 or better
 Even inactive devels should read forums :d
 Phil

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
 Error in startup script: extra characters after close-brace
 while executing
 set command
 [list  $self  {*}$Snit_optionInfo(configure-$option)  $option]
 
 (procedure snit::RT.CacheConfigureCommand  line 36)
 invoked from within
 snit::RT.CacheConfigureCommand  $type $selfns $win $self $option
 (procedure ::snit::RT.method.configurelist line 7)
 invoked from within
 ::snit::RT.method.configurelist $type $selfns $win $self $args
 (procedure ::snit::RT.method.configure line 4)
 invoked from within
 $self configure -width $arrow1width
 (procedure ::pixmapscrollbar::Snit_constructor line 154)
 invoked from within
 ::pixmapscrollbar::Snit_constructor ::pixmapscrollbar
 ::pixmapscrollbar::Snit_inst1 .plugins_log.ys .plugins_log.ys -command
 {.plugins_log.info yview}
 (eval body line 1)
 invoked from within
 eval [linsert $arglist 0  ${type}::Snit_constructor $type $selfns
 $instance $instance]
 (procedure RT.ConstructInstance line 9)
 invoked from within
 RT.ConstructInstance $type $selfns $name $args
 (procedure ::snit::RT.widget.typemethod.create line 53)
 invoked from within
 scrollbar $window.ys -command $window.info yview
 (procedure ::pluginslog::draw line 12)
 invoked from within
 ::pluginslog::draw
 invoked from within
 if { $initialize_amsn == 1 } {
  ::pluginslog::draw
 }
 (file pluginslog.tcl line 210)
 invoked from within
 source pluginslog.tcl
 (uplevel body line 27)
 invoked from within
 uplevel \#0 {

 # amsncore.tcl is already loaded but we'll re-source it here in
 case we manually do reload_files
 source amsncore.tcl
 source audio.tc...
 (procedure reload_files line 2)
 invoked from within
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[Amsn-devel] SVG icons

2007-05-28 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

Hey, I just stumbled upon this site: http://svgicons.o7a.net/

It is basically a collection of SVG icons of various Linux applications, 
since SVG icons are used more and more often but they are hard to find.

Should we send them the aMSN icon as well?

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Re: [Amsn-devel] Bug on start

2007-05-28 Thread capricious . falcon

Hehe thanks, I owe you ^o) :P

On 28/05/07, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


I didn't even notice the PS...
Be happy as I could have put retired :p
Phil

Youness Alaoui a écrit :
 LOL @ ps..


 On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 10:23:38AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Okay, sorry :) I do normally read the forums. Although I checked there
after
 you suggested it and found nothing :S Oh well, I'll update my tcl/tk
later
 today.

 Thanks!
 Tom

 ps: Are you calling me INACTIVE? :@ Well, I am, so I suppose I can't
 complain... :D

 On 27/05/07, Philippe Valembois - Phil 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 Forums ? :d
 In some words, update your tcl/tk to 8.5a6 or better
 Even inactive devels should read forums :d
 Phil

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
 Error in startup script: extra characters after close-brace
 while executing
 set command
 [list  $self  {*}$Snit_optionInfo(configure-$option)  $option]
 
 (procedure snit::RT.CacheConfigureCommand  line 36)
 invoked from within
 snit::RT.CacheConfigureCommand  $type $selfns $win $self $option
 (procedure ::snit::RT.method.configurelist line 7)
 invoked from within
 ::snit::RT.method.configurelist $type $selfns $win $self $args
 (procedure ::snit::RT.method.configure line 4)
 invoked from within
 $self configure -width $arrow1width
 (procedure ::pixmapscrollbar::Snit_constructor line 154)
 invoked from within
 ::pixmapscrollbar::Snit_constructor ::pixmapscrollbar
 ::pixmapscrollbar::Snit_inst1 .plugins_log.ys .plugins_log.ys
-command
 {.plugins_log.info yview}
 (eval body line 1)
 invoked from within
 eval [linsert $arglist 0  ${type}::Snit_constructor $type $selfns
 $instance $instance]
 (procedure RT.ConstructInstance line 9)
 invoked from within
 RT.ConstructInstance $type $selfns $name $args
 (procedure ::snit::RT.widget.typemethod.create line 53)
 invoked from within
 scrollbar $window.ys -command $window.info yview
 (procedure ::pluginslog::draw line 12)
 invoked from within
 ::pluginslog::draw
 invoked from within
 if { $initialize_amsn == 1 } {
  ::pluginslog::draw
 }
 (file pluginslog.tcl line 210)
 invoked from within
 source pluginslog.tcl
 (uplevel body line 27)
 invoked from within
 uplevel \#0 {

 # amsncore.tcl is already loaded but we'll re-source it here
in
 case we manually do reload_files
 source amsncore.tcl
 source audio.tc...
 (procedure reload_files line 2)
 invoked from within
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[Amsn-devel] GTK Port

2007-05-28 Thread Rob Britton

Hey guys, I am interested in doing a port of aMSN to C++/GTK, does anybody
know if this sort of thing has been started yet, or do you guys have
something against it?

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Re: [Amsn-devel] GTK Port

2007-05-28 Thread Benjamin Vanheuverzwijn

Look at Kmess project ( http://www.kmess.org/ ). This is C++/QT, maybe it
would be more easy to rewrite Kmess with GTK than rewrite aMSN (TCL/TK) with
C++/GTK !

Good luck for your project ! It looks interesting.

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Re: [Amsn-devel] GTK Port

2007-05-28 Thread Rob Britton

Wow, that's a lot different...I don't even need to port it!

Unfortunately it doesn't seem to work well, or at least not as well as aMSN.
I think I'll tinker around with your guys' code some more and see what I can
come up with. BTW, if I'm interested in helping with what you guys are
doing, should I just respond to a bug post or something and try to fix it?

On 5/28/07, Benjamin Vanheuverzwijn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Look at Kmess project ( http://www.kmess.org/ ). This is C++/QT, maybe it
would be more easy to rewrite Kmess with GTK than rewrite aMSN (TCL/TK) with
C++/GTK !

Good luck for your project ! It looks interesting.

2007/5/28, Rob Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

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