[android-developers] Re: Intercept incoming call
kstamm wrote: Android was promised to be open entirely It is. and I assumed it was going to allow creative use of the device Android is not a device. Android is an operating system. The T-Mobile G1 is a device. Perhaps in 2.0 we will actually have an open telephone platform You have an open telephone platform. It's called Android. However, to achieve your goals, most likely you will need to work at the level of firmware, not the SDK. That also means you must determine what sort of hardware will support that firmware. If your complaints are that the T-Mobile G1 does not allow replacement firmware, please direct your complaints to HTC (makers of the phone) and/or T-Mobile (distributors of the phone). Complaining on this list is an inefficient means of complaining to these two firms, who are not known for participating in discussions here. I just want to have control of the handheld's reactions. Depending on what actions you are seeking to control the reactions for, that may or may not be possible at the level of the SDK. More likely, it will require firmware-level modifications, for the sorts of things you are describing. The source code and discussion lists related to firmware-level development can be found at http://source.android.com. -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) http://commonsware.com Android Training on the Ranch! -- Mar 16-20, 2009 http://www.bignerdranch.com/schedule.shtml --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Intercept incoming call
Thanks for your response, I apologize for my attitude. In academia we theorize all these wonderful new systems and then go assume they will be implementable on real world hardware. Do you think in any version of Android we will be able to reprogram the part of the phone that displays the incoming call and generates the ringtone? I mistakenly assumed that it would be a simple task. I would definitely rather not be forced to fork the firmware to get at this functionality. You think I should be looking into the firmware code at source.android.com? On Nov 14, 7:19 pm, Mark Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kstamm wrote: Android was promised to be open entirely It is. and I assumed it was going to allow creative use of the device Android is not a device. Android is an operating system. The T-Mobile G1 is a device. Perhaps in 2.0 we will actually have an open telephone platform You have an open telephone platform. It's called Android. However, to achieve your goals, most likely you will need to work at the level of firmware, not the SDK. That also means you must determine what sort of hardware will support that firmware. If your complaints are that the T-Mobile G1 does not allow replacement firmware, please direct your complaints to HTC (makers of the phone) and/or T-Mobile (distributors of the phone). Complaining on this list is an inefficient means of complaining to these two firms, who are not known for participating in discussions here. I just want to have control of the handheld's reactions. Depending on what actions you are seeking to control the reactions for, that may or may not be possible at the level of the SDK. More likely, it will require firmware-level modifications, for the sorts of things you are describing. The source code and discussion lists related to firmware-level development can be found athttp://source.android.com. -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy)http://commonsware.com Android Training on the Ranch! -- Mar 16-20, 2009http://www.bignerdranch.com/schedule.shtml --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Intercept incoming call
Is this the same for outgoing calls? They also cannot be interecepted in 1.0? If so, what is the purpose of ACTION_NEW_OUTGOING_CALL? this is from the documentation: It is perfectly acceptable for multiple receivers to process the outgoing call in turn: for example, a parental control application might verify that the user is authorized to place the call at that time, then a number-rewriting application might add an area code if one was not specified. For consistency, any receiver whose purpose is to prohibit phone calls should have a priority of 0, to ensure it will see the final phone number to be dialed. Any receiver whose purpose is to rewrite phone numbers to be called should have a positive priority. Negative priorities are reserved for the system for this broadcast; using them may cause problems. If i understand correctly, the outgoing call can be ended, and we can also get the dialed number from the Intent's info. Is this correct? On Oct 1, 7:52 pm, hackbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, intercepting incoming calls is not supported in 1.0. On Oct 1, 9:20 am, Trey Ethridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to expand the logic of when to send a call directly to voicemail. I believe that there would need to be a hook somewhere to intercept the incoming call and determine whether or not to accept it. An example use case would be to prevent drunk dialing. There could be a setting in Android that would allow the user to set the device to send all calls to voicemail if the the caller is not in the family contact list and it is between 11:00 PM and 7:00 AM. We have a checkbox to allow users to send all calls to voicemail from a given contact, so I don't see why this should be a problem. Is this going to be possible? -- Trey On Sep 27, 4:27 pm, Eric B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the best apps I've every bought for my Treo 600/650 is an app that lets you assign specific ring tones (really mp3 files) to specific contacts or groups of contacts. I especially like the ability to turn off the ringer and vibrator for calls with no caller id. I don't think this kind of app would be possible without being able tointerceptacall. Thanks, Eric- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Intercept incoming call
On Oct 2, 12:17 am, legerb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this the same for outgoing calls? They also cannot be interecepted in 1.0? No, you can intercept outgoing calls, as you quoted from the documentation. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Intercept incoming call
You should call abortBroadcast() in your BroadCastReceiver, after catching the *ACTION_NEW_OUTGOING_CALL intent.* On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:19 PM, e [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: could u help me out ...how do manag with abortBroadcast()?? On Oct 2, 12:50 pm, legerb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank a lot for your response :) I managed to do that with abortBroadcast(). On Oct 2, 10:28 am, hackbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 2, 12:17 am, legerb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this the same for outgoing calls? They also cannot be interecepted in 1.0? No, you can intercept outgoing calls, as you quoted from the documentation. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Intercept incoming call
how to get *ACTION_NEW_OUTGOING_CALL intent.*??? On Oct 2, 4:26 pm, Rimma Sukhovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should call abortBroadcast() in your BroadCastReceiver, after catching the *ACTION_NEW_OUTGOING_CALL intent.* On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:19 PM, e [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: could u help me out ...how do manag with abortBroadcast()?? On Oct 2, 12:50 pm, legerb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank a lot for your response :) I managed to do that with abortBroadcast(). On Oct 2, 10:28 am, hackbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 2, 12:17 am, legerb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this the same for outgoing calls? They also cannot be interecepted in 1.0? No, you can intercept outgoing calls, as you quoted from the documentation. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Intercept incoming call
how to do catch *ACTION_NEW_OUTGOING_CALL intent.* ? On Oct 2, 4:26 pm, Rimma Sukhovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should call abortBroadcast() in your BroadCastReceiver, after catching the *ACTION_NEW_OUTGOING_CALL intent.* On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:19 PM, e [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: could u help me out ...how do manag with abortBroadcast()?? On Oct 2, 12:50 pm, legerb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank a lot for your response :) I managed to do that with abortBroadcast(). On Oct 2, 10:28 am, hackbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 2, 12:17 am, legerb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this the same for outgoing calls? They also cannot be interecepted in 1.0? No, you can intercept outgoing calls, as you quoted from the documentation. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Intercept incoming call
I'd like to expand the logic of when to send a call directly to voicemail. I believe that there would need to be a hook somewhere to intercept the incoming call and determine whether or not to accept it. An example use case would be to prevent drunk dialing. There could be a setting in Android that would allow the user to set the device to send all calls to voicemail if the the caller is not in the family contact list and it is between 11:00 PM and 7:00 AM. We have a checkbox to allow users to send all calls to voicemail from a given contact, so I don't see why this should be a problem. Is this going to be possible? -- Trey On Sep 27, 4:27 pm, Eric B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the best apps I've every bought for my Treo 600/650 is an app that lets you assign specific ring tones (really mp3 files) to specific contacts or groups of contacts. I especially like the ability to turn off the ringer and vibrator for calls with no caller id. I don't think this kind of app would be possible without being able tointerceptacall. Thanks, Eric --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Intercept incoming call
Sorry, intercepting incoming calls is not supported in 1.0. On Oct 1, 9:20 am, Trey Ethridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to expand the logic of when to send a call directly to voicemail. I believe that there would need to be a hook somewhere to intercept the incoming call and determine whether or not to accept it. An example use case would be to prevent drunk dialing. There could be a setting in Android that would allow the user to set the device to send all calls to voicemail if the the caller is not in the family contact list and it is between 11:00 PM and 7:00 AM. We have a checkbox to allow users to send all calls to voicemail from a given contact, so I don't see why this should be a problem. Is this going to be possible? -- Trey On Sep 27, 4:27 pm, Eric B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the best apps I've every bought for my Treo 600/650 is an app that lets you assign specific ring tones (really mp3 files) to specific contacts or groups of contacts. I especially like the ability to turn off the ringer and vibrator for calls with no caller id. I don't think this kind of app would be possible without being able tointerceptacall. Thanks, Eric --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Intercept incoming call
On Sep 27, 1:27 pm, Eric B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the best apps I've every bought for my Treo 600/650 is an app that lets you assign specific ring tones (really mp3 files) to specific contacts or groups of contacts. I especially like the ability to turn off the ringer and vibrator for calls with no caller id. You can already assign custom ring tones to specific contacts in 1.0. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Intercept incoming call
Anyone trythen plz tel me On Sep 25, 8:37 pm, legerb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about: ACTION_NEW_OUTGOING_CALL? According to SDK documentation it gives the possibility to intercept the call. Has anyone tried to use it? On Sep 17, 9:41 pm, friedger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could imagine an application that accepts acallwhen the user presses a button like I am rushing out of the meeting, hang on another second. Instead of me wispering into the phone, the caller gets a proper response. So there is no way to do that, currently? Friedger On 17 Sep., 20:22, kstamm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now now, we were told the Android was the first open source phone all the way down to the hardware. I expectcallreception capability! It's the only thing that sets it apart from other smartphones. On Sep 17, 10:35 am, Charlie Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would disagree with the statement that this should be possible. User's expect acallto work like acallwhich works like acalland that would be sort of like acall;). I think the idea is that certain key functions of the phone - calling, and going to the home screen - usurp other functions. All non built-in key functions, e.g. applications, are still equal, but yes a few key functions have a higher priority - by design (and I think a good design, it would get really confusing for users if every app was allowed to intercept calls and do different things with them, IMO). On Sep 17, 3:45 am, Tauno T [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if this will be possible on real devices? It should be according to the All applications are equal statement but has anyone further info regarding this? On Sep 17, 8:01 am, Megha Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, you cannot intercept incoming calls in the sdk. 2008/9/16 sectrean [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I'm trying to figure out how to intercept an incomingcall, but I'm not able to find much documentation on how I would do this. I would like to be able to display a custom dialog to accept or reject thecall.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Intercept incoming call
One of the best apps I've every bought for my Treo 600/650 is an app that lets you assign specific ring tones (really mp3 files) to specific contacts or groups of contacts. I especially like the ability to turn off the ringer and vibrator for calls with no caller id. I don't think this kind of app would be possible without being able to intercept a call. Thanks, Eric --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Intercept incoming call
How about: ACTION_NEW_OUTGOING_CALL? According to SDK documentation it gives the possibility to intercept the call. Has anyone tried to use it? On Sep 17, 9:41 pm, friedger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could imagine an application that accepts acallwhen the user presses a button like I am rushing out of the meeting, hang on another second. Instead of me wispering into the phone, the caller gets a proper response. So there is no way to do that, currently? Friedger On 17 Sep., 20:22, kstamm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now now, we were told the Android was the first open source phone all the way down to the hardware. I expectcallreception capability! It's the only thing that sets it apart from other smartphones. On Sep 17, 10:35 am, Charlie Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would disagree with the statement that this should be possible. User's expect acallto work like acallwhich works like acalland that would be sort of like acall;). I think the idea is that certain key functions of the phone - calling, and going to the home screen - usurp other functions. All non built-in key functions, e.g. applications, are still equal, but yes a few key functions have a higher priority - by design (and I think a good design, it would get really confusing for users if every app was allowed to intercept calls and do different things with them, IMO). On Sep 17, 3:45 am, Tauno T [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if this will be possible on real devices? It should be according to the All applications are equal statement but has anyone further info regarding this? On Sep 17, 8:01 am, Megha Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, you cannot intercept incoming calls in the sdk. 2008/9/16 sectrean [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I'm trying to figure out how to intercept an incomingcall, but I'm not able to find much documentation on how I would do this. I would like to be able to display a custom dialog to accept or reject thecall.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Intercept incoming call
Good point Mark. I was speaking in terms of using the API to develop an application. Those delivering their own platform all the way to firmware probably will, and certainly should, have access to all of that. In terms of the now now type comments (@kstamm), yes, it will be open source all the way down to the hardware. That still doesn't make it a good idea to change such fundamental behavior as the dialer/ calling if you are working on an app for the T-Mobile Google Phone for instance (users won't appreciate it). In cases where you are building an app you don't want to cut into the continuity of the platform. And, I would completely *disagree* that that is the only thing that separates Android from other platforms (the entire architecture with the nature of intents and services and the platform managing the security and memory and so on is a different tack, altogether, and a significant one - which has nothing to do with whether or not it is open source, though that is also another plus). On Sep 17, 11:47 am, Mark Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the idea is that certain key functions of the phone - calling, and going to the home screen - usurp other functions. All non built-in key functions, e.g. applications, are still equal, but yes a few key functions have a higher priority I suspect there will be two tiers of development for Android. At the level of the SDK, you're probably correct -- not each and every phone function can be replaced or hooked into, in part for security reasons. If you're willing to roll your own firmware, though, you'll probably be able to do whatever you want. So if you're creating your own phone, and you want to create a different dialer or in-call display than what stock Android comes with, you can probably do it. Leastways, that's how I'm reading the various tea leaves. -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy)http://commonsware.com _The Busy Coder's Guide to Android Development_ Version 1.2 Published! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Intercept incoming call
I would agree that that sounds like a good call. ;) That still would not interrupt the dialer screen if already in a call, and could be configured based on permissions, good idea. On Sep 17, 2:41 pm, friedger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could imagine an application that accepts a call when the user presses a button like I am rushing out of the meeting, hang on another second. Instead of me wispering into the phone, the caller gets a proper response. So there is no way to do that, currently? Friedger On 17 Sep., 20:22, kstamm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now now, we were told the Android was the first open source phone all the way down to the hardware. I expect call reception capability! It's the only thing that sets it apart from other smartphones. On Sep 17, 10:35 am, Charlie Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would disagree with the statement that this should be possible. User's expect a call to work like a call which works like a call and that would be sort of like a call ;). I think the idea is that certain key functions of the phone - calling, and going to the home screen - usurp other functions. All non built-in key functions, e.g. applications, are still equal, but yes a few key functions have a higher priority - by design (and I think a good design, it would get really confusing for users if every app was allowed to intercept calls and do different things with them, IMO). On Sep 17, 3:45 am, Tauno T [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if this will be possible on real devices? It should be according to the All applications are equal statement but has anyone further info regarding this? On Sep 17, 8:01 am, Megha Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, you cannot intercept incoming calls in the sdk. 2008/9/16 sectrean [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I'm trying to figure out how to intercept an incoming call, but I'm not able to find much documentation on how I would do this. I would like to be able to display a custom dialog to accept or reject the call. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Intercept incoming call
I wonder if this will be possible on real devices? It should be according to the All applications are equal statement but has anyone further info regarding this? On Sep 17, 8:01 am, Megha Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, you cannot intercept incoming calls in the sdk. 2008/9/16 sectrean [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I'm trying to figure out how to intercept an incoming call, but I'm not able to find much documentation on how I would do this. I would like to be able to display a custom dialog to accept or reject the call. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Intercept incoming call
I would disagree with the statement that this should be possible. User's expect a call to work like a call which works like a call and that would be sort of like a call ;). I think the idea is that certain key functions of the phone - calling, and going to the home screen - usurp other functions. All non built-in key functions, e.g. applications, are still equal, but yes a few key functions have a higher priority - by design (and I think a good design, it would get really confusing for users if every app was allowed to intercept calls and do different things with them, IMO). On Sep 17, 3:45 am, Tauno T [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if this will be possible on real devices? It should be according to the All applications are equal statement but has anyone further info regarding this? On Sep 17, 8:01 am, Megha Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, you cannot intercept incoming calls in the sdk. 2008/9/16 sectrean [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I'm trying to figure out how to intercept an incoming call, but I'm not able to find much documentation on how I would do this. I would like to be able to display a custom dialog to accept or reject the call. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Intercept incoming call
I think the idea is that certain key functions of the phone - calling, and going to the home screen - usurp other functions. All non built-in key functions, e.g. applications, are still equal, but yes a few key functions have a higher priority I suspect there will be two tiers of development for Android. At the level of the SDK, you're probably correct -- not each and every phone function can be replaced or hooked into, in part for security reasons. If you're willing to roll your own firmware, though, you'll probably be able to do whatever you want. So if you're creating your own phone, and you want to create a different dialer or in-call display than what stock Android comes with, you can probably do it. Leastways, that's how I'm reading the various tea leaves. -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) http://commonsware.com _The Busy Coder's Guide to Android Development_ Version 1.2 Published! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Intercept incoming call
Now now, we were told the Android was the first open source phone all the way down to the hardware. I expect call reception capability! It's the only thing that sets it apart from other smartphones. On Sep 17, 10:35 am, Charlie Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would disagree with the statement that this should be possible. User's expect a call to work like a call which works like a call and that would be sort of like a call ;). I think the idea is that certain key functions of the phone - calling, and going to the home screen - usurp other functions. All non built-in key functions, e.g. applications, are still equal, but yes a few key functions have a higher priority - by design (and I think a good design, it would get really confusing for users if every app was allowed to intercept calls and do different things with them, IMO). On Sep 17, 3:45 am, Tauno T [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if this will be possible on real devices? It should be according to the All applications are equal statement but has anyone further info regarding this? On Sep 17, 8:01 am, Megha Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, you cannot intercept incoming calls in the sdk. 2008/9/16 sectrean [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I'm trying to figure out how to intercept an incoming call, but I'm not able to find much documentation on how I would do this. I would like to be able to display a custom dialog to accept or reject the call. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Intercept incoming call
This was to be the cornerstone of the application I've been working on. I had assumed that this would be supported because, Android does not differentiate between the phone's basic and third-party applications -- even the dialer or home screen can be replaced. Apparently, that applied to all cases, but this one. I don't see why this would not be allowed (with appropriate permissions) given the All applications are equal mantra. Are there plans to support this in the 1.0 release? Is there some undocumented, unsupported way of doing this? Has anyone found a workaround? John On Sep 17, 1:01 am, Megha Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, you cannot intercept incoming calls in the sdk. 2008/9/16 sectrean [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I'm trying to figure out how to intercept an incoming call, but I'm not able to find much documentation on how I would do this. I would like to be able to display a custom dialog to accept or reject the call. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Intercept incoming call
This was to be the cornerstone of the application I've been working on. I had assumed that this would be supported because, Android does not differentiate between the phone's basic and third-party applications -- even the dialer or home screen can be replaced. Apparently, that applied to all cases, but this one. I don't see why this would not be allowed (with appropriate permissions) given the All applications are equal mantra. Are there plans to support this in the 1.0 release? Is there some undocumented, unsupported way of doing this? Has anyone found a workaround? John On Sep 17, 3:45 am, Tauno T [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if this will be possible on real devices? It should be according to the All applications are equal statement but has anyone further info regarding this? On Sep 17, 8:01 am, Megha Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, you cannot intercept incoming calls in the sdk. 2008/9/16 sectrean [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I'm trying to figure out how to intercept an incoming call, but I'm not able to find much documentation on how I would do this. I would like to be able to display a custom dialog to accept or reject the call. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Intercept incoming call
I don't agree that changing the in call screen/incoming call screen/ outgoing call screen should be only available to handset manufacturers/ operators. A phone could do SO much more when applications could somehow hook into these screens (or even control the voice streams). Imagine an application that could show the name of an unknown caller based on data gathered from the Internet. Or an application that displays additional call information while the call is in progress (eg call length/cost/quality/voice equalizer). Or an application that let's you choose between a normal call or a VoIP call when you press the green dial button when selecting a contact from the native phone book. Or an application that can change the actual voice stream that is transmitted - so you could add effects such as high/low pitch etc to your outgoing call. There are many more fun/useful applications that could benefit from this openness of the OS. Of course there are security concerns but still.. For a regular user a call would work like a call and it would be sort of like a call but for advanced users who download these applications (and click on thousands of security warnings when installing the app) the phone would be so much more than the phones that are on the market today. Just my 2 cents.. On Sep 17, 6:47 pm, Mark Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the idea is that certain key functions of the phone - calling, and going to the home screen - usurp other functions. All non built-in key functions, e.g. applications, are still equal, but yes a few key functions have a higher priority I suspect there will be two tiers of development for Android. At the level of the SDK, you're probably correct -- not each and every phone function can be replaced or hooked into, in part for security reasons. If you're willing to roll your own firmware, though, you'll probably be able to do whatever you want. So if you're creating your own phone, and you want to create a different dialer or in-call display than what stock Android comes with, you can probably do it. Leastways, that's how I'm reading the various tea leaves. -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy)http://commonsware.com _The Busy Coder's Guide to Android Development_ Version 1.2 Published! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Intercept incoming call
That sucks. That was to be the cornerstone of the application I've been working on. I had assumed this would be supported because, Android does not differentiate between the phone's basic and third- party applications -- even the dialer or home screen can be replaced. I guess that's true except in this case. I don't see why this shouldn't be allowed (with appropriate permissions) given the mantra, All applications are equal. Is there maybe some undocumented, unsupported way of doing this? Has anyone found a workaround? John On Sep 17, 1:01 am, Megha Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, you cannot intercept incoming calls in the sdk. 2008/9/16 sectrean [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I'm trying to figure out how to intercept an incoming call, but I'm not able to find much documentation on how I would do this. I would like to be able to display a custom dialog to accept or reject the call. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Intercept incoming call
That sucks. This was to be the cornerstone of the application I've been working on. I had assumed that this would be supported because, Android does not differentiate between the phone's basic and third- party applications -- even the dialer or home screen can be replaced. Apparently, that applied to all cases, but this one. I don't see why this would not be allowed (with appropriate permissions) given the All applications are equal mantra. Are there plans to support this in the 1.0 release? Is there some undocumented, unsupported way of doing this? Has anyone found a workaround? John On Sep 17, 1:01 am, Megha Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, you cannot intercept incoming calls in the sdk. 2008/9/16 sectrean [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I'm trying to figure out how to intercept an incoming call, but I'm not able to find much documentation on how I would do this. I would like to be able to display a custom dialog to accept or reject the call. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Intercept incoming call
2008/9/17 friedger [EMAIL PROTECTED] I could imagine an application that accepts a call when the user presses a button like I am rushing out of the meeting, hang on another second. Instead of me wispering into the phone, the caller gets a proper response. So there is no way to do that, currently? Unfortunately, no, because you can't intercept an incoming call . Could you log a feature request in the public issue tracker? Thanks! Friedger On 17 Sep., 20:22, kstamm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now now, we were told the Android was the first open source phone all the way down to the hardware. I expect call reception capability! It's the only thing that sets it apart from other smartphones. On Sep 17, 10:35 am, Charlie Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would disagree with the statement that this should be possible. User's expect a call to work like a call which works like a call and that would be sort of like a call ;). I think the idea is that certain key functions of the phone - calling, and going to the home screen - usurp other functions. All non built-in key functions, e.g. applications, are still equal, but yes a few key functions have a higher priority - by design (and I think a good design, it would get really confusing for users if every app was allowed to intercept calls and do different things with them, IMO). On Sep 17, 3:45 am, Tauno T [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if this will be possible on real devices? It should be according to the All applications are equal statement but has anyone further info regarding this? On Sep 17, 8:01 am, Megha Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, you cannot intercept incoming calls in the sdk. 2008/9/16 sectrean [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I'm trying to figure out how to intercept an incoming call, but I'm not able to find much documentation on how I would do this. I would like to be able to display a custom dialog to accept or reject the call. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Intercept incoming call
I don't agree that changing the in call screen/incoming call screen/ outgoing call screen should be only available to handset manufacturers/ operators. A phone could do SO much more when applications could somehow hook into these screens (or even control the voice streams). I'm not questioning the potential benefits. I'm only making a prediction based on comments made to date about what can and cannot be done. -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) http://commonsware.com _The Busy Coder's Guide to Android Development_ Version 1.2 Published! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Intercept incoming call
Unfortunately, you cannot intercept incoming calls in the sdk. 2008/9/16 sectrean [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I'm trying to figure out how to intercept an incoming call, but I'm not able to find much documentation on how I would do this. I would like to be able to display a custom dialog to accept or reject the call. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
