Re: Improve extension development documentation

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 16/11/2012 Alexandro Colorado wrote:

I have been reviewing some documentation regarding the development of
OpenOffice extensions[1] and I see there are many thing missing.


It could be, even though I remember that those pages were enough for me 
to build the Italian dictionary extension (but it's a non-code extension).



A service called codesnippets[4] is also no longer there ...
[4] http://codesnippets.services.openoffice.org/index.xml


I can't answer the other questions. But Codesnippets is still online: as 
far as I can tell, the above link still works.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: Improve extension development documentation

[Andrea Pescetti]

Alexandro Colorado wrote:

On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

I have been reviewing some documentation regarding the development of
OpenOffice extensions[1] and I see there are many thing missing.

It could be, even though I remember that those pages were enough for me to
build the Italian dictionary extension (but it's a non-code extension).

I am not sure what to make of your comment since it has nothing much to do
with the issues I listed. Is there an counter proposal? or you think there
is no need to update it?


No, I was merely saying that some of the content there is still 
serviceable. But if that section as a whole can be improved, and someone 
wants to try, I'm surely in favor of seeing it improved!



  A service called codesnippets[4] is also no longer there ...

[4] http://codesnippets.services.openoffice.org/index.xml

I can't answer the other questions. But Codesnippets is still online: as
far as I can tell, the above link still works.

Is there but clearly unmantained, the CSS is broken and the latest entry is
pretty old.


I think the maintainer stated explicitly on ooo-dev that he would keep 
it online. Maybe you can find more in the ooo-dev archives. Anyway, it 
is not a resource under the project's control and I don't know if there 
are plans to update it further (you are right in saying that there is no 
recent content).


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: Volunter

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 16/11/2012 Galileo Teco Juárez wrote:

My name Galileo TecoFrom today I will start to work for OpenOfficeMy skills
are Java, some C, html,
I want to learn to work together and learn more about Free Software and
communities.
Suggestions for how to start?? ???


Welcome, Galileo! This mailing list (api) is for people who want to 
develop extensions for OpenOffice, see http://extensions.openoffice.org/


We welcome new volunteers in all fields; please have a look at the 
orientation initiative pages at 
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/orientation/


In this moment we are recruiting volunteers mainly for QA and 
localization. If you wish to help there, make sure you subscribe to the 
relevant mailing list (see the page above for more information).


If you are considering to join in the core development, you should 
contact the ooo-dev list 
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html#development-mailing-list 
and the starting point would be to build OpenOffice: 
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO ; for 
any doubts, please contact ooo-dev in this case.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: docbook xslt filters

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 30/11/2012 bryan rasmussen wrote:

I remembered that there were some open office to docbook filters out
there, and found this, but it seems that almost all the links - for
example to here
http://xml.openoffice.org/source/browse/xml/xmerge/java/org/openoffice/xmerge/converter/xml/xslt/docbook/
return 404s.


This is because, ages ago, there was a source code repository associated 
to any subdomain of the form name.openoffice.org ; these repositories 
were likely lost during the Apache relocation. Try seeing if there is 
anything useful under

http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/xml/
or download all the tree directly with
$ svn co 
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/xml



Any idea where I should get those filters now?


Honestly I have no idea. The old infrastructure was shut down and we 
only imported the web pages into the new repository. Perhaps Svante (in 
CC) still has a copy of those files: in that case, we can make them 
available again.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: docbook xslt filters

[Andrea Pescetti]

Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 30/11/2012 bryan rasmussen wrote:

http://xml.openoffice.org/source/browse/xml/xmerge/java/org/openoffice/xmerge/converter/xml/xslt/docbook/
Any idea where I should get those filters now?

Perhaps Svante (in CC) still has a copy of those files


Svante is not subscribed to this list, but he asked me to tell the list 
that the files are available in a full (not necessarily default: you 
should select the custom installation and install everything) Apache 
OpenOffice installation. And indeed you will find them in

openoffice.org/basis3.4/share/xslt/docbook/
for the stable 3.4 installation and in
ooo-dev/basis3.5/share/xslt/docbook/
for the latest 4.0 snapshot (still called 3.5 there):
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds

Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: Apache OpenOffice Extensions and Templates Upcoming Features

[Andrea Pescetti]

Galileo Teco Juárez wrote:

where could econtar simplest examples? I'm starting with extensions
thanks


For information on how to write Extensions for OpenOffice, see
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Extensions

Note that the "upcoming features" mentioned by Rob concern the 
Extensions repository at http://extensions.openoffice.org/ and not the 
format of individual extensions, which is not going to change.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: Introducing myself

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 10/01/2013 Rob Weir wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:23 AM, Fabrizio Marchesano wrote:
>> I'm ready to give my contribution to the community in any way I can,
and if
>> you're planning to attend FOSDEM 2013 I'll be glad to meet you in
person ...
> I personally will not be able to make it to Fosdem, but we will have
> many project members there, and we will have a table and a dev room.
> So be sure to stop by the dev room and introduce yourself!

Fabrizio is actually one of the FOSDEM accepted speakers for the Apache
OpenOffice devroom, so it will be easy to meet him! Extensions developers
(hence, putting the api list in CC) shouldn't miss the early afternoon
session, with a talk by Fabrizio and another one by Juergen.

Schedule: https://fosdem.org/2013/schedule/track/apache_openoffice/

FOSDEM 2013 is in Brussels, Belgium, 2 February.

Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: Incompatible change for extensions

[Andrea Pescetti]

Juergen Schmidt wrote:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121577
The change is really easy and no big thing.


Do we have a way to automatically produce a 4.0-compatible extension 
starting from a 3.x extension?


I'm quite concerned to leave hundreds of extensions behind and asking 
their authors to upgrade them. Some of the most popular extensions are 
not very actively maintained, so we should definitely think about fixing 
the 10-20 most popular extensions by the time 4.0 is released.


Reading the issue, I assume dictionaries are not affected since they 
don't attach to toolbars, right?


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: Incompatible change for extensions

[Andrea Pescetti]

Rob Weir wrote:

I also like the idea of marking a function as deprecated, maybe even
supporting the new and old together for a release, to give time for
transition.


If at all feasible, I would be for this. Ideally, we should be able to 
install a legacy extension by: recognizing it's using legacy APIs or 
conventions; displaying a warning; running it anyway, trying to be as 
compatible as possible.


Then of course I don't know how much of this is realistically 
feasible... but Hans is right, the ecosystem is extremely important and 
even unsupported extensions can have a high value for end users (while 
from a technical point of view it's hard to disagree with Juergen and 
Ariel).


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: OpenOffice plugin for NetBeans 7.2?

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 25/01/2013 Fabrizio Marchesano wrote:

just tested the 3.0.1 package with NetBeans 7.2.1 ...
I could take on the Italian localization, but I, too, am uncertain if it
would be welcome or just unnecessary


It's not of primary importance as translating the application itself, 
but it would be nice to have!


Thanks,
  Andrea.

Re: Request QA Volunteer

[Andrea Pescetti]

Forwarding Alexandro's answer, below, to Javier who is not subscribed. 
Andrea


Alexandro Colorado wrote:

On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 3:16 AM, Javier LoRa  wrote:

OpenOfficeQA  Volunteers: Hello. My name is Javier López Ramos and I'm
student of Information technology and communication in the Technological
University of the Riviera Maya and I want to be a QA volunteer for my
professional practices. I'd love to be part of your dedicated QA mail list.
I'm waiting for your response. Have a good day. Javier Lopez Ramos.


Please send this email to the QA List:
http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html#qa-mailing-list-public
Also follow the introductory modules, and make sure to report back your
questions and future steps.
http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-qa.html
You can start with some of the Easy QA Tasks:
http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-qa.html

Help resolve some of the verified bugs
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=Fixed_After_340&sharer_id=248432

Or help by confirming some of the issues that have yet to be address:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&f2=keywords&f3=cf_bug_type&known_name=NeedConfirm&list_id=39759&o2=notsubstring&o3=equals&query_format=advanced&resolution=---&v2=needmoreinfo&v3=DEFECT&order=bug_id%20DESC&query_based_on=NeedConfirm

Re: OpenOffice plugin for NetBeans 7.2?

[Andrea Pescetti]

Fabrizio Marchesano wrote:

I just finished translating and creating "Bundle_it_IT.properties" files
for Italian localization of NetBeans plugin


Good!


In case someone is interested, just let me know and I'll send the mentioned
files (about thirty text files).


I've just asked on the progetto-it mailing list if we have volunteers 
who can review it. Let's continue the discussion there.


Regards,
  Andrea.

ApacheCon 2013 is coming, register soon!

[Andrea Pescetti]

Reminder: ApacheCon Portland 2013 is coming in less than one month and 
you should register soon to take advantage of discounted hotel rates. 
See http://na.apachecon.com/ for more details.


I personally won't be there since I'll already be busy with another 
conference (FOSDEM) in February, but ApacheCon is a great event for 
developers and the ecosystem (hence, CCing the API list) to know more 
about OpenOffice and about Apache in general.


You can see a message from the ApacheCon producer at
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-apachecon-discuss/201301.mbox/%3C37EE4160-0895-4431-AA64-F1E67E264E87%40holdenweb.com%3E

Specifically, if you are attending and you have blogs or other web 
presences and want to help publicize the conference, banner

graphics are available at http://holdenweb.com/acna13gfx/

Maybe we may also consider to add a link to http://na.apachecon.com/ in 
the website banner during the last few days when the special conference 
rates at the hotel are available, i.e., 3-4 February?


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: Problems with Events

[Andrea Pescetti]

Yessica Brinkmann wrote:

I guess I'm marked with a cross in the world of Open Office for this little
problem I had with Mauricio


Yessica, you are really guessing wrong. OpenOffice is too big for any 
personal problems to prevail: nobody can "mark" anyone as a person whose 
questions are disregarded. You already got plenty of friendly advice on 
the dev mailing list in the last few days and you got some advice here 
too: it just takes time, we are all volunteers and it is normal that it 
takes a few days before questions, especially complex questions like 
yours, are answered. If they aren't, allow a week or so and gently reply 
to your message saying you didn't get an answer, and rest assured that 
people won't deliberately ignore a sender, and that nobody has the power 
to impose that behavior on other members.



It ends here my relationship with the world Open Office, and
I realize they are totally authoritarian, they put a cross to give just an
opinion.


Everybody is free to leave a mailing list. You are doing this based on a 
misconception, and nobody wrote anything bad against you on this list. 
You are surely welcome to come back any time! (And no, I don't know how 
to answer your technical questions, sorry).


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: Incompatible change for extensions

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 11/02/2013 Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

And this incompatible API change isn't arguable, that is: it has already
been discussed, I won't revert it, and won't accept anyone else reverting
it, period.


OK, and from the links and context I get this is a different issue than 
the one originally discussed here. What's the impact of this other 
change? Does it affect a narrow class of extensions or, like the other 
one, it requires that most code extensions are rewritten?


In any case, it is material for the Release Notes. I mentioned it in
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes
but it would be good to know more.

Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: Backward incompatibility of System Mail API

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 30/07/2013 Bernard Marcelly wrote:

Hanya's page should be inserted or linked to in the official AOO 4.0
Release Notes.


Done, linked through
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Extensions/Extensions_and_Apache_OpenOffice_4.0
which is reachable from the Known Issues.

And thanks Hanya for providing this resource!

Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: e-mail message format

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 27/09/2013 K.Misha wrote:

Can anyone tell me which format i need to use for e-mailing to
a...@openoffice.org.


Everything you write will be converted to plain text. And seeing some of 
the previous e-mails the conversion does a bad job on your messages.


So, ideally you would send plain text to avoid conversion problems.

Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Messaggio errore

[Andrea Pescetti]

[ English: answering support request; redirecting to Italian support 
channels ]


Buongiorno Enrico,
ha installato la versione di PDF Import per OpenOffice 3 su OpenOffice 
4. Deve semplicemente disinstallare la vecchia estensione da Strumenti - 
Gestione estensioni e sostituirla con la nuova che si trova su

http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/node/17351

La mailing list api@openoffice.apache.org e' in inglese; per dubbi in 
italiano puo' usare il forum https://forum.openoffice.org/it/forum/ o la 
mailing list utenti: 
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-utenti-it/


Saluti,
  Andrea Pescetti.

Il 14/11/2013 Enrico Rosetta ha scritto:

Buon giorno

Desidero chiedere lumi per il seguente problema:

Se cerco di importare un file PDF compare il messaggio:

Loading component library failed:
file///C:/Users/
M***%20R***/AppData/Roaming/OpenOffice/4/user/uno_packages/cache/unopackages/svjrbf4.tmp_/oracle-pdfimport.oxt/pdfimport.uno.dll

Vi sono molto grato per una risposta

Cordialità
Enrico Rosetta



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Re: pdf impor extension

[Andrea Pescetti]

Forwarding the answer to Dan, who is not subscribed. Andrea

Bernard Marcelly wrote:

Hi,
For Apache OpenOffice 4.0, use the latest version of :

PDF Import for Apache OpenOffice
http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/node/17351


Regards
Bernard

Message de Dan Karmon date 2013-12-03 18:19 :

Can't load the Oracle pdf import extension. Repeated
failures.. I get a long "loading component library failed:"
message. I can however, install other extensions.
Any advice? Thank you Dan



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FOSDEM 2014 Call for Talks

[Andrea Pescetti]

In case someone does not follow the dev list: you have time until Sunday 
22 December to submit a talk proposal for FOSDEM 2014, Brussels, 1 
February 2014.


See
https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/join_apache_openoffice_at_fosdem
for all details.

Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Tajik spellcheck module

[Andrea Pescetti]

info wrote:

Good afternoon!  In our non-government organization the Centre for
Development of Information Technology «Zafar Usmanov» developed
spellchecking dictionary for Tajik language as an extension system
for OpenOfficeOrg. We would like to include a spelling dictionary for
Tajik language in your system online OpenOfficeOrg. In addition to
this we would like to have our module as included in future
distributions in Tajik language. What you advise for us for further
cooperation in this theme?


Hello, you sent your message to three different mailing lists but the 
right one, for any follow-up, is yet another one, i.e., the Localization 
mailing list: 
http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html#localization-mailing-list-public


Briefly:

1) If you have an extension ready for the Tajik language spell checking, 
you should upload it to http://extensions.openoffice.org/ ; this is a 
preliminary step for including it in releases.


2) To have OpenOffice released in Tajik, you will have to complete the 
translation we have on file. This requires a number of steps, as we 
don't have a team actively working on Tajik now: first you should write 
to the localization mailing lists saying that you would like to complete 
the Tajik (tg) translation; then we will import the current Tajik 
translation into Pootle, our translation system 
https://translate.apache.org/projects/aoo40/ so that you can continue 
it; and we will also create an account (or several accounts if you are a 
team of several people) for you.


3) Once the OpenOffice translation into Tajik is complete, packaging the 
dictionary with it is trivial and we can take care of it with minimal 
effort.


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  Andrea.

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Re: Help with pdf import extension download

[Andrea Pescetti]

Forwarding Bernard's answer (below) to Melinda who is not subscribed. I 
agree, http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/node/17351 is the right 
version to use. Andrea


Bernard Marcelly wrote:

Hello Melinda,
Your message does not show us which version of OpenOffice you use, and
from which adddress you downloaded the extension. And your image did not
pass through.

There is currently a pitfall when searching for PDF import.
Oracle PDF import extension appears as the most popular extension.
However it is _not_ the correct extension for Apache OpenOffice 4.0.

You can see an ambiguous phrase at top of the description : "If you are
using Apache OpenOffice 4.0, use this version."
Few people will remark that "this version" is a link to another
extension, specific to Apache OpenOffice.


The extension PDF Import for Apache OpenOffice is available from
http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/node/17351
Click on the green button to display the download page.
I downloaded the oxt file without problem.

Regards
Bernard

Message de Melinda Marasch date 2014-01-15 19:19 :

Hi,

I've tried several times to download the pdf import extension for
OpenOffice & I
keep getting this error.

Inline image 1



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Re: Open Office v 4.0.1 - Problems with pdf files

[Andrea Pescetti]

Ian McNicholas wrote:

I recently upgraded to this version due to changing to windows 7 from xp
- I can no longer open pdf files using open office - HELP ! - my preious
version which was 2.something had no problems but in version 4.0.1 it
starts to load then the whole office package" locks up" with window
posting a "not responding" message after a couple of minutes - I've
tried downloading the pdf extension but it tells me it's already
installed then crashes when I try to reinstall it.


Make sure that you are using PDF Import for OpenOffice 4. Use 
http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/node/17351


If you still experience unpredictable behavior, reset your user profile. 
Search in https://forum.openoffice.org/ to know how to do it.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: PDF import

[Andrea Pescetti]

genio...@libero.it wrote:

I am using OpenOffice 4.  I did try to download the extension for
opening and modify a PDF document but there is no explanations about
how to run and use such zipped files.


Make sure you are using the version for OpenOffice 4.x (from the 
filenames you quote, you are already using it).


You will download a .oxt file; internally it's a .zip file but you 
should NOT expand it (if your browser does it for you, try with another 
browser).


You can install the .oxt file from OpenOffice, File - Open. Once it is 
installed, if you open a PDF file in Draw it will not display the ASCII 
Filter dialog any longer.


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  Andrea.

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Re: PDF import

[Andrea Pescetti]

Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 03:32:42PM +0100, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Make sure you are using the version for OpenOffice 4.x (from the
filenames you quote, you are already using it).

Not sure if he is using the one for AOO4


In this case he was. He was mentioning aoo-pdf-import.uno.dll which 
should be in your version only. Anyway he answered me in private to say 
this is solved.



@Roberto: can you please remove this sentence from that page?
And please follow the advice from Bernard Marcelly in another thread


I agree with both changes. They should be done indeed.

But actually the best solution, as discussed months ago, would be that 
you, Ariel, just take over the existing extension page 
http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/pdfimport and its extension 
ID and publish your new version(s) there. I think everything was already 
settled from the legal and technical point of view, so basically this is 
up to you. For sure we would get rid of many support requests in mailing 
lists/forums!


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Re: Extension does not run

[Andrea Pescetti]

Stephen Cox wrote:

I conclude that you are not interested in this problem and don't support the
extension. May I suggest that to avoid frustration, you remove the defective
software from your servers so others don't waste time trying it.


Maintaining extensions is responsibility of each extension author. 
OpenOffice as a project cannot do anything about this. The Extensions 
site is a community site. You can register there and post a comment if 
you want to leave your feedback about a particular extension.


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Re: PDF import

[Andrea Pescetti]

Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

That's not possible because both extensions have different identifiers,
and I guess there are still 3.* users out there; IMO it would be then
good to:
- add the extension ID to the black-list in
   /org.openoffice.Office.ExtensionDependencies/Extensions
- Provide an update of the Oracle PDF Extension with the only
   modification of the now missing 


Well, both approaches can coexist, with proper timing.

1) In a first phase, take care of the 3.x users; publish a minor update 
that simply introduces the maximal version and at the same time make 
sure to blacklist PDF Import in the 3.x->4.x profile migration starting 
with OpenOffice 4.1. This is probably easy since (access privileges 
aside) it is probably just unzipping, updating the description.xml file 
and repackaging with no need to rebuild.


2) Then, after (say) one month, that would be helpful to 3.x users to 
get the newer version, the 4.x version can be added to that page (this 
would be your version, but rebuilt with a version number that is higher 
than the version in step 1, and with the same identifiers used by PDF 
Import).


Indeed it will never happen that a user can update PDF Import to the 
4.x-compatible version without updating OpenOffice, so preserving the 
Extension ID is not that important and can also be avoided. But offering 
all 3.x and 4.x versions on the same page would be helpful to users.


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  Andrea.

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Re: problem with chinese language

[Andrea Pescetti]

Forwarding Herbert's answer in case the original poster did not get it. 
Andrea


On 29/04/2014 Herbert Duerr wrote:

On 29.04.2014 14:15, K. Misha wrote:

Our company has developed LibOpenOffice
  library for
OpenOffice automation. Our clients from China said that this code doesn't
work with chinese file path:

bool exportToUrl(char *url) {

   try {

 int nLenOfWideCharStr =
MultiByteToWideChar(CP_ACP,MB_PRECOMPOSED,url,-1,NULL,0);

 wchar_t *uval = (PWSTR)HeapAlloc(GetProcessHeap(), 0,
nLenOfWideCharStr * sizeof(WCHAR));


MultiByteToWideChar(CP_ACP,MB_PRECOMPOSED,url,-1,uval,nLenOfWideCharStr);



 Reference xStore (xCalcComponent, UNO_QUERY);

 Sequence storeProps(1);

 storeProps[0].Name = OUString::createFromAscii(
"FilterName" );

 storeProps[0].Value <<= OUString::createFromAscii( "MS
Excel 97"
);

 xStore->storeToURL( OUString::OUString(uval), storeProps );


Use a line such as

xStore->storeToURL( OUString::OUString(uval,nLenOfWideCharStr),
storeProps );

instead. This sets the string length explicitly instead of relying on
finding a trailing zero.

Hope that helps.

Herbert

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Re: Extension - AOO 4.1.1 - MacOS 10.9.4

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 10/09/2014 Hans Zybura wrote:

From: Ariel Constenla-Haile [mailto:arie...@apache.org]

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/Extensions/Target_Platform

in fact, setting the platform to anything else
than "all" will fail.

Oh! Since when is this known? Where else is this important piece of
information available? Issue 124783 only says that token macosx_x86_64  will
cause an error and prevent installation. It does not say that one can't use
any other token than "all". - OK, I see now that it follows logically, but
it's not very obvious, isn't it?


Indeed it's not obvious. This must be fixed.


Shouldn't this fact be mentioned very explicitly in the DevGuide? And in the
'Known Issues' part of the Release notes for AOO 4.1 and 4.1.1?


Well, since you now know what's useful to developers, just propose a 
text and we can add it (the Release Notes for 4.1 contain user-oriented 
remarks about this but indeed nothing that can help developers).


Or just ask and we will create accounts for you so that you can edit
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/Extensions/Target_Platform
and
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes
accordingly. They are wiki pages and the only reason we restrict their 
modification is to combat spam.


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Re: Extension - AOO 4.1.1 - MacOS 10.9.4

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 10/09/2014 20:07, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 04:05:12PM +0200, Hans Zybura wrote:

Shouldn't this fact be mentioned very explicitly in the DevGuide?

IMO, no, that's not the place for such "peculiarities".


It can be a place until we still have the bug in our stable version. The 
wikis support all kinds of "warning" paragraphs, and we could link to 
the issue or include a very short text even if this is a temporary 
issue. It's already fixed for the next release, but the next release is 
not coming very soon.



IMO the Release Notes are targeted to End-Users, and adding this to the
"Known Issues" will only confuse End-User. An extension developer that
is developing a non-cross-platform extension for MacOSX should already
be aware of the switch to 64 bit


Adding a sentence like
  ---
Extension Developers should ensure that their extensions specify 
platform="all" in description.xml, see 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124783

  ---
won't harm. I mean, if extension developers can't easily find this 
information through other channels, at least users have a resource to 
point them to.


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OpenOffice community survey - Please take it!

[Andrea Pescetti]

I've prepared, with help from other community members, a survey to 
gather some quick data about the Apache OpenOffice community. This 
information will be used for my Apache Conference talk in November, to 
assess how we have matured in these two years as a top-level Apache 
project and whether we can consider the "setup" phase to be closed.


It's one easy, simple page:

http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/314592/lang-en

Please take the survey now, your feedback is needed! Please answer also 
if you are just reading this list but you are not active, and please 
answer only once even if you receive multiple copies of this message 
(via different mailing lists).


If you have any comments, follow-up to the dev list only.

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Re: OpenOffice community survey - Please take it!

[Andrea Pescetti]

Reminder: the survey will stay open until 30 September. Please take it 
now if you haven't already done it.


Survey is at
http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/314592/lang-en
and forum volunteers (those who are involved in user support) are 
welcome to take it too; if someone can announce it there it would be 
perfect.


For any comments, follow-up to the dev list only. We've fixed some 
technical and wording issues; if you experience problems when submitting 
please inform the dev list d...@openoffice.apache.org


Thanks,
  Andrea.

On 12/09/2014 Andrea Pescetti wrote:

I've prepared, with help from other community members, a survey to
gather some quick data about the Apache OpenOffice community. This
information will be used for my Apache Conference talk in November, to
assess how we have matured in these two years as a top-level Apache
project and whether we can consider the "setup" phase to be closed.

It's one easy, simple page:

http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/314592/lang-en

Please take the survey now, your feedback is needed! Please answer also
if you are just reading this list but you are not active, and please
answer only once even if you receive multiple copies of this message
(via different mailing lists).

If you have any comments, follow-up to the dev list only.

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Re: Open Document Editors Devroom at FOSDEM 15, Brussels, 31 Jan 2015

[Andrea Pescetti]

Reminder: one week left for submitting talks proposal for FOSDEM. 
Deadline is Sunday 14 December. All details below and at 
https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/call_for_talks_open_document

Regards,
  Andrea.

On 03/11/2014 Andrea Pescetti wrote:

FOSDEM 15 will be held at the ULB Campus Solbosch on Saturday, January
31, and Sunday, February 1st, 2015.

Open document editors are coming again to FOSDEM with a shared devroom
which gives every project in this area a chance to present ODF related
developments and innovations. The devroom is jointly organized by Apache
OpenOffice and LibreOffice.

We invite submission of talks for the Open Document Editors devroom, to
be held on Saturday, January 31, from 10AM to 6PM.

Length of talks should be limited to 20 minutes, as we would like to
have questions after each presentation, and to fit as many presenters as
possible in the schedule. Exceptions must be explicitly requested and
justified.

Technical talks (code, extensions, localization, QA, tools and adoption
related cases) about open document editors or the ODF document format
are welcome.

Submissions must be done by the speakers using the Pentabarf system:
https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/FOSDEM15

While filing your proposal, please provide the title of your talk, a
short abstract (one or two paragraphs), some information about yourself
(name, bio and photo, but please do remember that your profile might be
already stored at Pentabarf) and specify what topic (Apache OpenOffice,
LibreOffice, other ODF editors, ODF in general...) your talk is about.

You do not need to create a new account if you already have one. If the
password has been lost, you can easily recover it.

The deadline is Sunday, December 14, 2014. Accepted speakers will be
notified by December 28, 2014.

You can send any questions to the devroom mailing list:
open-document-devr...@lists.fosdem.org



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Re: Open Document Editors Devroom at FOSDEM 15, Brussels, 31 Jan 2015

[Andrea Pescetti]

jan i wrote:

Any news about the "open editors room", will it be saturday or sunday ?


It's on Saturday, as specified in
https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/call_for_talks_open_document

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Re: Open Document Editors Devroom at FOSDEM 15, Brussels, 31 Jan 2015

[Andrea Pescetti]

Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:

There are other issues, too, like licensing, metrics, and general community 
governance.


Note that FOSDEM talks have a requirement to be technical. We had to 
reject a interesting submission about community metrics in the past 
since FOSDEM is not the place for it.


I can look up details if you wish, but this is one of the few 
constraints that FOSDEM places on track content and it is the reason for

https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/call_for_talks_open_document
to explicitly ask for "technical talks".

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Re: Open Document Editors Devroom at FOSDEM 15, Brussels, 31 Jan 2015

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 10/12/2014 21:09, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:

On 10 Dec2014, at 15:01, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
Note that FOSDEM talks have a requirement to be technical. ...

Right; but at the same time, there are other options besides talks


Sure. This only holds for talks in devrooms, as I just confirmed with 
the organizers (but again, the call I mentioned is about talks for the 
Open Document Editors devroom, deadline today).



and, besides, there are groups on licensing and metrics


Talks about licensing can be submitted to the dedicated devroom (again, 
confirmed with organizers).



… and just saw that Simon echoed my point re Bitergia.


It a separate event the day before FOSDEM. It's not part of FOSDEM, it 
has nothing to do with talks in the Open Documents Editors devroom.



Good idea, btw, to look at what is already accepted rather
than accept defeat before any venture, no?


Whatever way you want to see it, I can only confirm that talks in the 
Open Documents Editors devroom have to be technical and follow the 
guidelines in 
https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/call_for_talks_open_document ; I find 
non-technical talks equally interesting (I gave two non-technical talks 
myself during ApacheCon), but they are not for this devroom. Obviously, 
I'm very open to both technical and non-technical discussions at any 
moment during FOSDEM; these guidelines must be respected for the devroom 
talks since these are the house rules, but for the rest we'll be free to 
discuss everything!


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Re: I want to join the api mailing list of the OpenOffice.

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 15/02/2015 Gavin Li wrote:

I hope to get your approva.Thankyou.


Hello Gavin, since it seems you were not subscribed when you wrote this: 
we don't add people to the mailing lists, and you don't need an 
approval. As for all our mailing list, in order to subscribe you send an 
empty message to the subscription address 
api-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org and then you will receive a message 
for YOU to confirm (simply replying to that message) that you want to 
subscribe to the list.


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Re: Description.xml/Version propper user

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 30/04/2015 Alexandro Colorado wrote:

According to description.xml
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/Extensions/Description_of_XML_Elements#Element_.2Fdescription.2Fversion
The following is described: Required. A textual representation of the
extension version. ... I want to confirm the policy and propper use of the
metadata according to the application.


I think it is simply a string, compared within OpenOffice using a string 
comparison (which is not optimal: if you have version "99.0" and version 
"100.0", version 100.0 comes before 99.0 since it starts with a "1").


I use ".MM.DD" like Marco, so "2015.05.02". It is fine to use "0.1", 
"0.2" and similar but "0.9" is not considered to come before "0.10" so 
keep that in mind. I believe more exotic numbering like "0.9-alpha2" is 
not accepted by the Extensions site, but is accepted by OpenOffice.


It's been a few years since I last looked at this, but I don't think 
things have changed much. At the time, I settled for using ".MM.DD" 
and I've been consistently using that pattern.


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Re: Description.xml/Version propper user

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 02/05/2015 Alexandro Colorado wrote:

My biggest concern is that the
extension manager 'catch' the published updates correctly with the
extension site.


Internally, this used to work this way (and probably still does): the 
Extensions site advertises the latest version of its extensions (like, 
it says, the latest version of hunspell.dictionary.english -this is a 
made-up identifier- is 2015.05.01); OpenOffice does the comparison and 
if it determines that the installed version is "older" then it proposed 
the update.


In short: if you install version 0.9, then you upload version 0.10, the 
Extensions site will advertise that the latest version is 0.10; but 
OpenOffice will consider 0.9 to be "newer" (comes later in alphabetical 
order) than 0.10 and won't ask you to update. Using a date-based schema 
solved all these issues for me. This is why I use and recommend it.


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Re: Description.xml/Version propper user

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 08/05/2015 Amenel VOGLOZIN wrote:

Like Stephan Bergmann, I also think that the current test for newer version 
cannot remain as it is.
I have adopted the version scheme based on the date as Andrea recommended. But 
I am quite uncomfortable with:
1- effectively asking the entire extension developer community to adopt a 
version scheme just so they can work;
2- having an "overlook"/mistake/comparison bug remaining in some code that does 
not implement the intended action.


I'm not sure we have understood messages the same way.

I'm definitely not asking anyone to adopt a .MM.DD numbering scheme, 
I'm just saying that I do so and that it works for me.


I think we all agree that any numbering scheme where alphabetical order 
is equal to numbering order (e.g., version 1.000, version 1.001, ..., 
version 1.009, version 1.010...) would work well with no surprises.


I though we had a bug with situations such as 0.9 -> 0.10; Stephan wrote 
that the bug is either not there or not as bad as I thought and I trust 
him more than my memories from years ago when I was investigating the 
issue for one extension only.


I'll post other comments to 
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126298​ when I have time for 
further checks, but I wanted to make the above clear before doing that.


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Re: 4.1.2_release_blocker requested: [Issue 126110] Incompatible API change in Annotations

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 15/07/2015 bugzilla wrote:

bmarcelly has asked  for 4.1.2_release_blocker:
Issue 126110: Incompatible API change in Annotations
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126110


(CCing the API list; this is the answer I've just posted in the issue)

This will definitely need evaluation on the API list...

So: this is an incompatible change that was introduced in 4.1.0; your 
suggestion (but we have no patches for it) would reintroduce the old 
behavior for the Annotations (aka Notes, Comments) that were allowed 
until 4.0.1, and use the new behavior only for the new 
Annotations/Notes/Comments, those that apply to Text Ranges.


Your suggestion makes sense to me, but we will need that someone 
contributes a patch to include this in 4.1.2.


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Re: 4.1.2_release_blocker requested: [Issue 126376] SystemFilePicker getFiles() returns an incorrect list of files

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 15/07/2015 bugzilla wrote:

bmarcelly has asked  for 4.1.2_release_blocker:
Issue 126376: SystemFilePicker getFiles() returns an incorrect list of files
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126376


For both this one and the other issue related to the FilePicker (issue 
126377) we need evaluation on the API list for sure, and we don't have a 
patch available. I'm CCing the API list. I've put a more detailed 
comment in the issue.


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Re: 4.1.2_release_blocker requested: [Issue 126377] Default SystemFilePicker setMultiSelectionMode is broken

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 15/07/2015 bugzilla wrote:

bmarcelly has asked for 4.1.2_release_blocker:
Issue 126377: Default SystemFilePicker setMultiSelectionMode is broken
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126377


Same answer as for issue 126376 (even if this one seems more feasible): 
for considering for 4.1.2, we need feedback from the API list (in CC) 
and a patch. We would also need evaluation on whether this can bring 
regressions for existing code that relies on the current defaults.


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Re: 4.1.2_release_blocker requested: [Issue 123544] XFilePicker's setDisplayDirectory and setDefaultName do not work in Windows

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 18/07/2015 bugzilla wrote:

brinzing has asked  for 4.1.2_release_blocker:
Issue 123544: XFilePicker's setDisplayDirectory and setDefaultName do not work
in Windows
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123544


This is the third FilePicker issue we see nominated, the other two being 
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126110 and 
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126377 ; this is the comment 
I've posted in the issue, but I believe that they should be evaluated as 
a group and handled if volunteers show up.

  ---
This issue was suggested as a 4.1.2 release blocker.

Status: the issue has a patch available, but this patch only covers a 
crash and it is already included both in trunk and in AOO410 (so, among 
others, in OpenOffice 4.1.1 and to-be 4.1.2). We don't have a patch 
available for the filepicker problem, but we have a detailed description 
by Ariel (at the code level) in comment 15.


Like two other filepicker issues that were nominated for 4.1.2, I'm 
forwarding to the API list for evaluation but in order to fix it in time 
for 4.1.2 we will need an interested developer to show up.

  ---
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Re: The WiderNet Project requests permission to use your product

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 01/08/2016 Natasha Mencher wrote:

We are specifically requesting a donation of the following materials for future 
versions of the eGranary Digital Library:
Apache OpenOffice, located athttps://www.openoffice.org/
Please indicate the type of permission you wish to allow when responding to 
this message.


It seems that you don't need an explicit permission for the use of 
OpenOffice you would like to make: Apache OpenOffice is free software, 
distributed under the Apache License, version 2.


This very liberal license allows free redistribution in binary or source 
form. You can find a FAQ at 
http://www.apache.org/foundation/license-faq.html and the full license 
text at http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.txt


I believe you will conclude that the license terms are enough and that 
you don't need an explicit permission beyond it. But if you have doubts 
feel free to contact us again. Use the dev list (I'm moving other lists 
to BCC to avoid useless traffic) or contact the OpenOffice PMC directly 
as instructed on this page: http://openoffice.apache.org/trademarks.html


Regards,
  Andrea Pescetti - Apache OpenOffice PMC member.

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