RE: [Asterisk-Users] Randy Bush is a destructive force with a hidden professional agenda

2004-07-06 Thread Kevin Walsh
Bradley D. Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Your on notice as of now and you're being watched. Don't try to
 destroy this community like the trail of destruction behind you!
 
Who died and made you king of the mail list?

From what I can see, Randy Bush asked a question about whether he
should use SIP or IAX.  It seems that some members of this community
are determined to drive him away from IAX and have him use SIP.

It would seem to me that anyone new to Asterisk would wonder why a
proprietary protocol has been created when SIP is a well established
IETF standard.  I know the answer, as do many others.  If you're unable
to post a well reasoned argument for or against IAX then perhaps you
should refrain from following up to such questions in the future.

People are entitled to ask questions;  If no questions were asked then
this mail list would not have the volume of articles that it has.

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Randy Bush ate my hamster (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] Randy Bush is a destructive force with a hidden professional agenda)

2004-07-05 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox

he did i tell you! i'm still in counselling... altho come to think , i was in 
counselling anyway.. 

Steve

On Mon, 5 Jul 2004, Bradley D. Thornton wrote:

 .   Monday, July 5, 2004
 15:50:06 (-08:00hrs UTC)
 Hello asterisk-users,
 
   From the following post:
 
 On Mon, 5 Jul 2004, Joe Baptista wrote:
 
  On Mon, 5 Jul 2004, Randy Bush wrote:
 
  i did not criticize the protocol.  remember, my question started
  with
 
   i am looking at iax to see if it is applicable to my needs.
 
  i don't need nats, nat traversal, nat anything.  if i did, iax
  might well be one of the technologies i would consider.  but i
  don't.
 
  Your up to no good again.  Trying to troll?  Look Bush it pretty easy - if
  you want a PBX use asterisk if not go away.
 
  regards
  joe
 
   Watch out for this man Bush! He is a professional espionage troll
   and hides his agent status behind his condescending facade.
 
   What do you want Randy? Go back to Admiralty way with all your
   ICANNite cronies if you're not going to behave here!
 
   Your on notice as of now and you're being watched. Don't try to
   destroy this community like the trail of destruction behind you!
 
   If you wanna play nice in the sandbox then okay, but most people
   know better than to trust you any farther than they can throw you
   already - This community and the associated technologies aren't
   subject to usurpation by the Special Interest groups that fund
   your espionage and agitation activities!
 
   Lots of people on this list already know who are - the bane of DNS.
 
 

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Randy Bush is a destructive force with a hidden professional agenda

2004-07-05 Thread Adam Hart
Bradley D. Thornton wrote:
snip
i don't need nats, nat traversal, nat anything.  if i did, iax
might well be one of the technologies i would consider.  but i
don't.

snip
  Watch out for this man Bush! He is a professional espionage troll
  and hides his agent status behind his condescending facade.
  What do you want Randy? Go back to Admiralty way with all your
  ICANNite cronies if you're not going to behave here!
I have no idea who Randy Bush is but I found it funny the first article 
I found on him was a presentation on why NAT is evil espically for 
voice. Now he asserts that NAT traversal is not needed.

http://www.apnic.net/meetings/17/docs/sigs/policy/addrpol-pres-randy-nats.pdf
Can anyone give me a quick rundown on why there's such discontent for 
this person

-Adam
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Randy Bush is a destructive force with a hidden professional agenda

2004-07-05 Thread andrewg
 
 I have no idea who Randy Bush is but I found it funny the first article 
 I found on him was a presentation on why NAT is evil espically for 
 voice. Now he asserts that NAT traversal is not needed.
 
 http://www.apnic.net/meetings/17/docs/sigs/policy/addrpol-pres-randy-nats.pdf
 

I read his message as saying that NAT isn't an problem /he will be facing 
in what he is aiming to setup/. Given the context around his stuff, I wouldn't
be surprised if thats what he meant.

/ -- emphasis|deemphasis things.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Randy Bush is a destructive force with a hidden professional agenda

2004-07-05 Thread Adam Hart
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have no idea who Randy Bush is but I found it funny the first article 
I found on him was a presentation on why NAT is evil espically for 
voice. Now he asserts that NAT traversal is not needed.

http://www.apnic.net/meetings/17/docs/sigs/policy/addrpol-pres-randy-nats.pdf

I read his message as saying that NAT isn't an problem /he will be facing 
in what he is aiming to setup/. Given the context around his stuff, I wouldn't
be surprised if thats what he meant.

/ -- emphasis|deemphasis things.
Very true, my apologies, I only saw what people had selected in their 
replies.
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