Re: [asterisk-users] Vonage fraud controls

2007-04-09 Thread Kenneth Padgett

Has anyone tried pushing calls to a Vonage ATA attached to an FXO card in
Asterisk and had your account terminated by Vonage?

I'm curious as to whether they will stop your service if you push too many
calls through their ATA in a specific period of time.

Thanks in advance for the info, SG


I knew a guy that used two Vonage lines with fax modems attached to
them and pumped Free internet email to Fax services through them. As
much as 2000 calls a week per line. It took Vonage many months to
catch on, and they figured out it was a fax service (presumably by
googling or calling the numbers being dialed) . All Vonage did was
force him to upgrade to Unlimited Business service on both lines.
They where nasty about it via email, such as mass faxing is against
our TOS etc, but they didn't cut his service. Then again, this was a
couple years ago, they may be tougher on it now that they have more
subscribers.

On a side note, faxing over Vonage sucks and is unreliable. Nice voice
service as far as I'm concerned though.

-Kenneth
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Re: [asterisk-users] Vonage fraud controls

2007-04-08 Thread Yossi Ben Hagai

And if they get you black-listed you can always signup with Verizon...

On 4/8/07, Dean Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


There's no way for them to tell if you have asterisk on the fxo port BUT
they will terminate your account if you hook it up as the outbound for an
office pumping call after call through it. What did you expect?



Regards,

Dean Collins
Cognation Pty Ltd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
+1-212-203-4357 Ph


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 Subject: [asterisk-users] Vonage fraud controls

 Has anyone tried pushing calls to a Vonage ATA attached to an FXO card
in
 Asterisk and had your account terminated by Vonage?

 I'm curious as to whether they will stop your service if you push too
many
 calls through their ATA in a specific period of time.

 Thanks in advance for the info, SG

 --
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RE: [asterisk-users] Vonage fraud controls

2007-04-07 Thread Dean Collins
There's no way for them to tell if you have asterisk on the fxo port BUT they 
will terminate your account if you hook it up as the outbound for an office 
pumping call after call through it. What did you expect?

 

Regards,

Dean Collins
Cognation Pty Ltd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
+1-212-203-4357 Ph


 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Saturday, 7 April 2007 8:07 PM
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 Subject: [asterisk-users] Vonage fraud controls
 
 Has anyone tried pushing calls to a Vonage ATA attached to an FXO card in
 Asterisk and had your account terminated by Vonage?
 
 I'm curious as to whether they will stop your service if you push too many
 calls through their ATA in a specific period of time.
 
 Thanks in advance for the info, SG
 
 --
 Salvatore Giudice
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 VoIP Security Training, LLC
 http://VoIPSecurityTraining.com
 
 848 N. Rainbow Blvd. #1676
 Las Vegas, NV 89107
 Phone: (702) 979-2906
 Fax: (212) 279-2906
 
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Vonage SIP access via asterisk?

2006-12-08 Thread Paul
BerkHolz, Steven wrote:

Does anyone have a working connection to Vonage via asterisk? (SIP, not ATA)

I just signed up to test their service and they sent me a Number, Proxy, port 
and password.

Every reference I have tried leaves me with a 404 error coming from Vonage.

If you have a working setup, please post some config references.
  

It would help if you told us exactly which vonage product/service the
number, proxy, port and password are for.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Vonage SIP access via asterisk?

2006-12-08 Thread Al Bochter

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk%40Home+Handbook+Wiki+Chapter+6#621VonageBusinessPlusandVonageSoftphoneb

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BerkHolz, Steven wrote:


Does anyone have a working connection to Vonage via asterisk? (SIP, not ATA)

I just signed up to test their service and they sent me a Number, Proxy, port 
and password.

Every reference I have tried leaves me with a 404 error coming from Vonage.

If you have a working setup, please post some config references.



Thank You,
Steven BerkHolz



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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and FXO

2006-06-07 Thread Padmanaban Balasubramaniam
I got the generic clone version of FXO from ebay. The AT-320 phones also
from ebay. 

Paddu

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Shaffer
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 1:21 PM
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Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and FXO

Sorry, I guess that would help! I was using an X100P so I am sure that was a
large part of the problem.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 1:38 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and FXO

It would be helpful if responders would tell us what FXO hardware they
are using and which vonage ATA device it connects to.

Padmanaban Balasubramaniam wrote:

I am using it with my [EMAIL PROTECTED] setup. I did not face any issues with 
echo, but
once in a while, the trunk does NOT get disconnected even after the call
has
been completed. So I had to manually plug the phone cable out from FXO and
plug it back again. But I think that's something to do with my version of
FXO drivers.

Otherwise it works for me.

Paddu

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Shaffer
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:37 AM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and FXO

I used a scenario like this before but I always ran into intermittent echo
issues that were just not worth the hassle for me so I switched to a sole
IP
origination and termination service. 

Just my personal experience!

HTH

Curt

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mustardman29
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 12:22 PM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and FXO

 
Is anyone using Vonage on an FXO port in Asterisk?  How well does it work?
Specifically, any echo/delay problems?

Second part, I am assuming it is possible to separate fxo ports for least
cost routing correct?  In other words, I would like the routing to be such
that any local or 1-800# dials fxo ports 1-4 which is a normal 4 line
analog
PSTN connection.  Any long distance call will try to dial fxo port 5
(Vonage
ATA) first and if it's used then use fxo ports 1-4.  Is this easy to do in
FreePBX?

I know I can get a Vonage softphone account and not use an ATA/FXO port.  I
want to know if I can do it with an ATA/FXO.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and FXO

2006-06-06 Thread Curt Shaffer
I used a scenario like this before but I always ran into intermittent echo
issues that were just not worth the hassle for me so I switched to a sole IP
origination and termination service. 

Just my personal experience!

HTH

Curt

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mustardman29
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 12:22 PM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and FXO

 
Is anyone using Vonage on an FXO port in Asterisk?  How well does it work?
Specifically, any echo/delay problems?

Second part, I am assuming it is possible to separate fxo ports for least
cost routing correct?  In other words, I would like the routing to be such
that any local or 1-800# dials fxo ports 1-4 which is a normal 4 line analog
PSTN connection.  Any long distance call will try to dial fxo port 5 (Vonage
ATA) first and if it's used then use fxo ports 1-4.  Is this easy to do in
FreePBX?

I know I can get a Vonage softphone account and not use an ATA/FXO port.  I
want to know if I can do it with an ATA/FXO.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and FXO

2006-06-06 Thread Padmanaban Balasubramaniam
I am using it with my [EMAIL PROTECTED] setup. I did not face any issues with 
echo, but
once in a while, the trunk does NOT get disconnected even after the call has
been completed. So I had to manually plug the phone cable out from FXO and
plug it back again. But I think that's something to do with my version of
FXO drivers.

Otherwise it works for me.

Paddu

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Shaffer
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:37 AM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and FXO

I used a scenario like this before but I always ran into intermittent echo
issues that were just not worth the hassle for me so I switched to a sole IP
origination and termination service. 

Just my personal experience!

HTH

Curt

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mustardman29
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 12:22 PM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and FXO

 
Is anyone using Vonage on an FXO port in Asterisk?  How well does it work?
Specifically, any echo/delay problems?

Second part, I am assuming it is possible to separate fxo ports for least
cost routing correct?  In other words, I would like the routing to be such
that any local or 1-800# dials fxo ports 1-4 which is a normal 4 line analog
PSTN connection.  Any long distance call will try to dial fxo port 5 (Vonage
ATA) first and if it's used then use fxo ports 1-4.  Is this easy to do in
FreePBX?

I know I can get a Vonage softphone account and not use an ATA/FXO port.  I
want to know if I can do it with an ATA/FXO.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and FXO

2006-06-06 Thread Paul
It would be helpful if responders would tell us what FXO hardware they
are using and which vonage ATA device it connects to.

Padmanaban Balasubramaniam wrote:

I am using it with my [EMAIL PROTECTED] setup. I did not face any issues with 
echo, but
once in a while, the trunk does NOT get disconnected even after the call has
been completed. So I had to manually plug the phone cable out from FXO and
plug it back again. But I think that's something to do with my version of
FXO drivers.

Otherwise it works for me.

Paddu

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Shaffer
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:37 AM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and FXO

I used a scenario like this before but I always ran into intermittent echo
issues that were just not worth the hassle for me so I switched to a sole IP
origination and termination service. 

Just my personal experience!

HTH

Curt

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mustardman29
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 12:22 PM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and FXO

 
Is anyone using Vonage on an FXO port in Asterisk?  How well does it work?
Specifically, any echo/delay problems?

Second part, I am assuming it is possible to separate fxo ports for least
cost routing correct?  In other words, I would like the routing to be such
that any local or 1-800# dials fxo ports 1-4 which is a normal 4 line analog
PSTN connection.  Any long distance call will try to dial fxo port 5 (Vonage
ATA) first and if it's used then use fxo ports 1-4.  Is this easy to do in
FreePBX?

I know I can get a Vonage softphone account and not use an ATA/FXO port.  I
want to know if I can do it with an ATA/FXO.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and FXO

2006-06-06 Thread Curt Shaffer
Sorry, I guess that would help! I was using an X100P so I am sure that was a
large part of the problem.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 1:38 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and FXO

It would be helpful if responders would tell us what FXO hardware they
are using and which vonage ATA device it connects to.

Padmanaban Balasubramaniam wrote:

I am using it with my [EMAIL PROTECTED] setup. I did not face any issues with 
echo, but
once in a while, the trunk does NOT get disconnected even after the call
has
been completed. So I had to manually plug the phone cable out from FXO and
plug it back again. But I think that's something to do with my version of
FXO drivers.

Otherwise it works for me.

Paddu

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Shaffer
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:37 AM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and FXO

I used a scenario like this before but I always ran into intermittent echo
issues that were just not worth the hassle for me so I switched to a sole
IP
origination and termination service. 

Just my personal experience!

HTH

Curt

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mustardman29
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 12:22 PM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and FXO

 
Is anyone using Vonage on an FXO port in Asterisk?  How well does it work?
Specifically, any echo/delay problems?

Second part, I am assuming it is possible to separate fxo ports for least
cost routing correct?  In other words, I would like the routing to be such
that any local or 1-800# dials fxo ports 1-4 which is a normal 4 line
analog
PSTN connection.  Any long distance call will try to dial fxo port 5
(Vonage
ATA) first and if it's used then use fxo ports 1-4.  Is this easy to do in
FreePBX?

I know I can get a Vonage softphone account and not use an ATA/FXO port.  I
want to know if I can do it with an ATA/FXO.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and FXO

2006-06-06 Thread Paul
I have an SPA-3000 that I was going to experiment with by connecting it
to various FXS ata's I have here. I am open to using a pci card or
anything that provides good results. The general scheme for incoming is
as follows:

1) Disable the call waiting feature for the ata number and connect it to
asterisk using FXO hardware.

2) Config the primary number to call forrward on busy to a another
number that asterisk can service via sip or iax. If that number is a
vonage softphone the forwarded calls are free(in network) and you get 2
more channels. That gives you the capability of 3 total incoming
channels and you get caller ID with name. Using a vonage softphone means
you don't need the unlimited plan on the primary number.

Curt Shaffer wrote:

Sorry, I guess that would help! I was using an X100P so I am sure that was a
large part of the problem.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 1:38 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and FXO

It would be helpful if responders would tell us what FXO hardware they
are using and which vonage ATA device it connects to.

Padmanaban Balasubramaniam wrote:

  

I am using it with my [EMAIL PROTECTED] setup. I did not face any issues with 
echo, but
once in a while, the trunk does NOT get disconnected even after the call


has
  

been completed. So I had to manually plug the phone cable out from FXO and
plug it back again. But I think that's something to do with my version of
FXO drivers.

Otherwise it works for me.

Paddu

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Shaffer
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:37 AM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and FXO

I used a scenario like this before but I always ran into intermittent echo
issues that were just not worth the hassle for me so I switched to a sole


IP
  

origination and termination service. 

Just my personal experience!

HTH

Curt

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mustardman29
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 12:22 PM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and FXO


Is anyone using Vonage on an FXO port in Asterisk?  How well does it work?
Specifically, any echo/delay problems?

Second part, I am assuming it is possible to separate fxo ports for least
cost routing correct?  In other words, I would like the routing to be such
that any local or 1-800# dials fxo ports 1-4 which is a normal 4 line


analog
  

PSTN connection.  Any long distance call will try to dial fxo port 5


(Vonage
  

ATA) first and if it's used then use fxo ports 1-4.  Is this easy to do in
FreePBX?

I know I can get a Vonage softphone account and not use an ATA/FXO port.  I
want to know if I can do it with an ATA/FXO.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and FXO

2006-06-06 Thread Steve Jones
I've got a Motorola vonage box, and I've used it w/ AAH using a digium 4 port 
card, and with a clone modem FXO, and both have worked well, except for the 
echo that caused me to upgrade to the real digium card...
 



From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 6/6/2006 1:38 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and FXO



It would be helpful if responders would tell us what FXO hardware they
are using and which vonage ATA device it connects to.

Padmanaban Balasubramaniam wrote:

I am using it with my [EMAIL PROTECTED] setup. I did not face any issues with 
echo, but
once in a while, the trunk does NOT get disconnected even after the call has
been completed. So I had to manually plug the phone cable out from FXO and
plug it back again. But I think that's something to do with my version of
FXO drivers.

Otherwise it works for me.

Paddu

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Shaffer
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:37 AM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and FXO

I used a scenario like this before but I always ran into intermittent echo
issues that were just not worth the hassle for me so I switched to a sole IP
origination and termination service.

Just my personal experience!

HTH

Curt

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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and FXO


Is anyone using Vonage on an FXO port in Asterisk?  How well does it work?
Specifically, any echo/delay problems?

Second part, I am assuming it is possible to separate fxo ports for least
cost routing correct?  In other words, I would like the routing to be such
that any local or 1-800# dials fxo ports 1-4 which is a normal 4 line analog
PSTN connection.  Any long distance call will try to dial fxo port 5 (Vonage
ATA) first and if it's used then use fxo ports 1-4.  Is this easy to do in
FreePBX?

I know I can get a Vonage softphone account and not use an ATA/FXO port.  I
want to know if I can do it with an ATA/FXO.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] VONAGE and Asterisk

2005-12-06 Thread Erick Baum
no
On 12/6/05, Dakota [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] VONAGE and Asterisk

2005-12-06 Thread trixter aka Bret McDanel
On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 20:08 -0400, Dakota wrote:
 Can Vonage work with Asterisk?
 

Yes under 2 different plans.  

1 is to get the SIP softphone plan which is a different phone number and
limited in the number of minutes per month you can use.

2 break into your ATA and get your credentials so you can register
directly.  This way however has a major drawback in that it is a
violation of their TOS.  Due to case law in America (where vonage is so
it doesnt really matter where you are) a violation of the TOS is a
felony pursuant to 18 USC 1030(a)(5) punishable upto 10 years in jail
and fines upto $250,000.  While it is unlikely to result in anything
other than them canceling your account if they discover it, you should
be warned of the downside on that should they choose to persue it.  I
dont advise you to try this for that reason.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] VONAGE and Asterisk

2005-12-06 Thread The VoIP Connection
Hi Bret,

There is a third option.  You can purchase a Business Plus plan.  Some
details on the Wiki:

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+and+Vonage

Michael Crown
Managing Partner
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 From: trixter aka Bret McDanel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 7:39 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] VONAGE and Asterisk
 
 On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 20:08 -0400, Dakota wrote:
  Can Vonage work with Asterisk?
  
 
 Yes under 2 different plans.  
 
 1 is to get the SIP softphone plan which is a different phone 
 number and limited in the number of minutes per month you can use.
 
 2 break into your ATA and get your credentials so you can 
 register directly.  This way however has a major drawback in 
 that it is a violation of their TOS.  Due to case law in 
 America (where vonage is so it doesnt really matter where you 
 are) a violation of the TOS is a felony pursuant to 18 USC 
 1030(a)(5) punishable upto 10 years in jail and fines upto 
 $250,000.  While it is unlikely to result in anything other 
 than them canceling your account if they discover it, you 
 should be warned of the downside on that should they choose 
 to persue it.  I dont advise you to try this for that reason.
 
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 US +1 360 207 0479 or +1 516 687 5200
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] VONAGE and Asterisk

2005-12-06 Thread trixter aka Bret McDanel
On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 23:26 -0500, The VoIP Connection wrote:
 Hi Bret,
 
 There is a third option.  You can purchase a Business Plus plan.  Some
 details on the Wiki:
 
 http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+and+Vonage

I didnt know they started doing that, thanks for adding that.  I was a
vonage subscriber over 2 years ago and they had that in their TOS but
when I called to ask about it they said they didnt offer that service.
Guess they now do.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage-type service

2005-09-26 Thread Sherwood McGowan
Yes 

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage-type service

2005-09-25 Thread Alexander Lopez
 Yes

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 Is anyone offering a vonage-like service using a 100% 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage-type service

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage locked Motorola VT-1000s

2005-08-23 Thread Douglas Logan
That username  password combination is referenced elsewhere for
different models of ATA's as well. I believe it is somewhat a Vonage
standard.

On 8/23/05, Steve Gladden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  There is a fee, but I believe you can call Vonage and get a box
  unlocked after you are done with the service. If I'm remembering
  right, the fee is about $10.
 Thanks for the reply, but NOPE they absolutely and positively and confirmed
 first hand will *NOT* unlock any device.
 
 
  BTW, per http://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=1643
  try
  user: user
  pw: tivonpw
 
 This forum is referring to the Linksys WRT router and not the
 Motorla VT1000 ATA that I am looking to use. :-)
 
 Thanks  tak care!!!
 
 Still looking!
 
 Steve
 
 
 
  For the web interface.  You might be able to unlock it from there.
 
  On 8/19/05, trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  Steve Gladden wrote:
 
  Well hey!  let me know!!! :-)
  
  I got my max232 chip sitting out and am building a converter board
  right
  now...
  Gonna give it a shot soon as I get yer info!!! :-)
  
  Have you done  successful re-blast on one of these before?
  
  Very familiar (well kinda) with Motorola vxworks surboards etc.
  
  Take care!
  
  Steve
  
  
  I briefly looked at hte hardware and it *appears* that linux supports
  all of it, or at least enough of it that it shouldnt be terrible to port
  linux (embedded) to this device.  I did not fully look into this, it was
  more like 'that realtek chip looks supported' rather than pulling
  specific model numbers.  I also do not recall any of the hardware now,
  but ...
 
  I am told that the server is in the mail and should arrive at the
  destination soon where (hopefully) no data was lost (those pesky bits
  love to fall out of the seams of the box) and it should be up soon.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage locked Motorola VT-1000s

2005-08-23 Thread trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com
On Tue, 2005-08-23 at 15:16 -0400, Douglas Logan wrote:
 That username  password combination is referenced elsewhere for
 different models of ATA's as well. I believe it is somewhat a Vonage
 standard.

one of the things about the vt1000 is that the provider can dynamically
change your pw.  That is part of the file that gets tftped to the box at
startup and periodically after that.

I dont know if vonage does this, but they had the ability to do it.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage locked Motorola VT-1000s

2005-08-22 Thread Douglas Logan
There is a fee, but I believe you can call Vonage and get a box
unlocked after you are done with the service. If I'm remembering
right, the fee is about $10.

BTW, per http://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=1643
try
user: user
pw: tivonpw

For the web interface.  You might be able to unlock it from there.

On 8/19/05, trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Steve Gladden wrote:
 
 Well hey!  let me know!!! :-)
 
 I got my max232 chip sitting out and am building a converter board right
 now...
 Gonna give it a shot soon as I get yer info!!! :-)
 
 Have you done  successful re-blast on one of these before?
 
 Very familiar (well kinda) with Motorola vxworks surboards etc.
 
 Take care!
 
 Steve
 
 
 I briefly looked at hte hardware and it *appears* that linux supports
 all of it, or at least enough of it that it shouldnt be terrible to port
 linux (embedded) to this device.  I did not fully look into this, it was
 more like 'that realtek chip looks supported' rather than pulling
 specific model numbers.  I also do not recall any of the hardware now,
 but ...
 
 I am told that the server is in the mail and should arrive at the
 destination soon where (hopefully) no data was lost (those pesky bits
 love to fall out of the seams of the box) and it should be up soon.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage locked Motorola VT-1000s

2005-08-22 Thread Steve Gladden
 There is a fee, but I believe you can call Vonage and get a box
 unlocked after you are done with the service. If I'm remembering
 right, the fee is about $10.
Thanks for the reply, but NOPE they absolutely and positively and confirmed
first hand will *NOT* unlock any device.


 BTW, per http://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=1643
 try
 user: user
 pw: tivonpw

This forum is referring to the Linksys WRT router and not the
Motorla VT1000 ATA that I am looking to use. :-)

Thanks  tak care!!!

Still looking!

Steve



 For the web interface.  You might be able to unlock it from there.

 On 8/19/05, trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 Steve Gladden wrote:

 Well hey!  let me know!!! :-)
 
 I got my max232 chip sitting out and am building a converter board
 right
 now...
 Gonna give it a shot soon as I get yer info!!! :-)
 
 Have you done  successful re-blast on one of these before?
 
 Very familiar (well kinda) with Motorola vxworks surboards etc.
 
 Take care!
 
 Steve
 
 
 I briefly looked at hte hardware and it *appears* that linux supports
 all of it, or at least enough of it that it shouldnt be terrible to port
 linux (embedded) to this device.  I did not fully look into this, it was
 more like 'that realtek chip looks supported' rather than pulling
 specific model numbers.  I also do not recall any of the hardware now,
 but ...

 I am told that the server is in the mail and should arrive at the
 destination soon where (hopefully) no data was lost (those pesky bits
 love to fall out of the seams of the box) and it should be up soon.




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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage locked Motorola VT-1000s

2005-08-19 Thread trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com/

Steve Gladden wrote:


I have a small pile of them from customers who were too lazy to send them
back after switching to our local voice service...
Is there any hope of ever using these things with Asterisk?


Vonage does not want them back and they won't unlock them either.

A terrible shame!

Should I just toss them?

Steve
 



I wrote a paper on how to 'unlock' them, the short is that without a mot 
server (similar to the cable modem docsis stuffs) you cant do anything 
highly meaningful with them.  I hope to have my webpage back up soon (it 
was being physically moved and the people that are doing that broke some 
stuff in the process, but hey its free).


You can see what I did and maybe take it from there.  There is a TTL 
serial port inside the case, I used a TTL-RS232 converter and connected 
to it, it runs vxworks, and I mapped out the urls that are valid (incl 
the 2 undocumented ones) and some of the memory addresses the profile 
info is stored. 

All I can say is that if you are highly interested in this check my page 
occasionally over hte next little while, I couldnt find any of this on 
the net anywhere, maybe google cache has it.  http://www.0xdecafbad.com/ 
I checked while writing this email and the vast majority that was on my 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage locked Motorola VT-1000s

2005-08-19 Thread Steve Gladden
Very Highly Internested
Any chance you could zip or tar your content up and email it to me or give
me a link to grab it?

Maybe I could help you get it hosted again too ifyou need that.

Thanks!!!

Steve






 Steve Gladden wrote:

I have a small pile of them from customers who were too lazy to send them
back after switching to our local voice service...
Is there any hope of ever using these things with Asterisk?


Vonage does not want them back and they won't unlock them either.

A terrible shame!

Should I just toss them?

Steve



 I wrote a paper on how to 'unlock' them, the short is that without a mot
 server (similar to the cable modem docsis stuffs) you cant do anything
 highly meaningful with them.  I hope to have my webpage back up soon (it
 was being physically moved and the people that are doing that broke some
 stuff in the process, but hey its free).

 You can see what I did and maybe take it from there.  There is a TTL
 serial port inside the case, I used a TTL-RS232 converter and connected
 to it, it runs vxworks, and I mapped out the urls that are valid (incl
 the 2 undocumented ones) and some of the memory addresses the profile
 info is stored.

 All I can say is that if you are highly interested in this check my page
 occasionally over hte next little while, I couldnt find any of this on
 the net anywhere, maybe google cache has it.  http://www.0xdecafbad.com/
 I checked while writing this email and the vast majority that was on my
 site is not cached right now :(





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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage locked Motorola VT-1000s

2005-08-19 Thread trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com/

Steve Gladden wrote:


Very Highly Internested
Any chance you could zip or tar your content up and email it to me or give
me a link to grab it?

Maybe I could help you get it hosted again too ifyou need that.

Thanks!!!

Steve

 

I would love to have a tarball of my web stuff.  I didnt know it was 
getting moved, and it got moved earlier than expected.  I will see if I 
can get a tarball myself (I should have kept my own backups but ...)





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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage locked Motorola VT-1000s

2005-08-19 Thread Steve Gladden
Well hey!  let me know!!! :-)

I got my max232 chip sitting out and am building a converter board right
now...
Gonna give it a shot soon as I get yer info!!! :-)

Have you done  successful re-blast on one of these before?

Very familiar (well kinda) with Motorola vxworks surboards etc.

Take care!

Steve





 Steve Gladden wrote:

Very Highly Internested
Any chance you could zip or tar your content up and email it to me or
 give
me a link to grab it?

Maybe I could help you get it hosted again too ifyou need that.

Thanks!!!

Steve



 I would love to have a tarball of my web stuff.  I didnt know it was
 getting moved, and it got moved earlier than expected.  I will see if I
 can get a tarball myself (I should have kept my own backups but ...)




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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage locked Motorola VT-1000s

2005-08-19 Thread trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com/

Steve Gladden wrote:


Well hey!  let me know!!! :-)

I got my max232 chip sitting out and am building a converter board right
now...
Gonna give it a shot soon as I get yer info!!! :-)

Have you done  successful re-blast on one of these before?

Very familiar (well kinda) with Motorola vxworks surboards etc.

Take care!

Steve
 

I briefly looked at hte hardware and it *appears* that linux supports 
all of it, or at least enough of it that it shouldnt be terrible to port 
linux (embedded) to this device.  I did not fully look into this, it was 
more like 'that realtek chip looks supported' rather than pulling 
specific model numbers.  I also do not recall any of the hardware now, 
but ...


I am told that the server is in the mail and should arrive at the 
destination soon where (hopefully) no data was lost (those pesky bits 
love to fall out of the seams of the box) and it should be up soon.





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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage locked Motorola VT-1000s

2005-08-18 Thread John Novack (port)

Steve Gladden wrote:


I have a small pile of them from customers who were too lazy to send them
back after switching to our local voice service...
Is there any hope of ever using these things with Asterisk?


Vonage does not want them back and they won't unlock them either.

A terrible shame!

Should I just toss them?

Steve


A real shame because these support pulse dial, which few ATA's do.

Wonder if another Vonage customer could use them?

John Novack

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage to IAX DID to IVR = Poor DTMF

2005-07-16 Thread Jay Milk
Vonage Softphone service works with Asterisk.  Search this list for more
details.

 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Stearne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 10:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage to IAX DID to IVR = Poor DTMF
 
 Does Vonage work with Asterisk?  How much is this type of 
 plan from Vonage?
 
 Thanks,
 Michael

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage to IAX DID to IVR = Poor DTMF

2005-07-15 Thread Michael Blood
I have not experience this with Voip only.

I have experienced this with my cell phone though.  
I have trouble using Voicestrem to dial any DTMF tones (to a Asterisk
box or any other IVR type application).

I can dial into the exact same application using another cell phone
service and it works great.

I doubt that helps much but hopefully it validates the fact that having
an issue like this can be specific to a provider.

MB


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I have an IVR application that works fine from multiple DID sources,  
unless the call to that DID was from a Vonage service user.  In this  
case about half the DTMF tones never get recognized by Asterisk.  Has  
anyone else seen this?  Suggestions?  I'm running 1.0.9.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage to IAX DID to IVR = Poor DTMF

2005-07-15 Thread Mark Edwards
Yes!

is Vonage SIP or IAX Terminated? I am experiencing the exact same issue and I have logged a bug

http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=4631

How helpful are Vonage? Unfortunately my provider in question has been somewhat unwilling to assist in debugging the problem (oztell). A few questions to Vonage on what version of * they are using might help in uncovering the answer to this.


Hope you will stay in touch on this one as it has been bugging me for a while.

cheers,

Mark
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage to IAX DID to IVR = Poor DTMF

2005-07-15 Thread Michael Stearne
On 7/15/05, Mark Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes! 
   
 is Vonage SIP or IAX Terminated? I am experiencing the exact same issue and
 I have logged a bug 

Does Vonage work with Asterisk?  How much is this type of plan from Vonage?

Thanks,
Michael
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage users with Asterisk in UK?

2005-05-17 Thread Mike Dent
On 5/16/05, Steve Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 03:51:28PM +0100, Mike Dent wrote:
 
  Hi,
  I'd be interested in comments from any users of the vonage service in the 
  UK?
  http://www.vonage.co.uk is the website.
  Where are the servers located, traceroute would be useful.
  What is the general reliability like?
 
 No idea re servers, you get a box, you plug it in to your broadband
 conneciton (and do a bit of configuration) and it just works.
 
 I installed mine this morning and it just worked, pretty good call
 quality.
 
 Steve
 
Steve,
so your not using it with Asterisk then?

Mike
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage users with Asterisk in UK?

2005-05-16 Thread Steve Kennedy
On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 03:51:28PM +0100, Mike Dent wrote:

 Hi,
 I'd be interested in comments from any users of the vonage service in the UK?
 http://www.vonage.co.uk is the website.
 Where are the servers located, traceroute would be useful.
 What is the general reliability like?

No idea re servers, you get a box, you plug it in to your broadband
conneciton (and do a bit of configuration) and it just works.

I installed mine this morning and it just worked, pretty good call
quality.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage Linksys Router - Life after Vonage

2005-03-27 Thread Jamie Fargen
Bri,
Why can't you port the number?
Thanks
Jamie Fargen
Disverge, Inc.
CEO, President
Brian Capouch wrote:
Matt wrote:
Indeed.. there is no $40 cancellation fee unless you fail to return
their ATA.. then they charge you and it's yours... what you think
those devices are free?

I'm pretty sure Vonage added that termination fee some fair while 
after they began offering free ATAs as an inducement to use their 
service.

I signed up in May 2002, and at that time there was no mention of a 
termination or disconnect fee in their TOS.

It wasn't until after a very lively cottage industry sprang up selling 
cancelled account units on Ebay that they retroactively added that 
charge.

But $40 for a ~$150 ATA was still a good deal for the grifters, and 
after continuing to take a beating on Ebay, Vonage finally inveighed 
upon Cisco to put the nuclear option password on the unit, which 
made it a brick if one didn't know the magic string.

An irony quickly followed: Cisco wasn't all too keen on doing that 
change; they were aware of the negative PR that would follow when they 
would be forced to tell people, Nope, you have to just send it to a 
landfill.  But within months of Cisco's reluctant accomodation, 
Vonage dropped them like a hot potato when Motorola walked in the door 
with an ATA that was .0001 cents cheaper per unit.  Ha ha.

Vonage sucks, and if I could port that number I've had now for almost 
three years, I would drop them just like they did Cisco.

B.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage Linksys Router - Life after Vonage

2005-03-24 Thread Steven Kokinos
I too have heard of people persuading a vonage tech to provide the 
password to log into and factory reset their device, but I get the 
impression that it is an uncommon occurrence.. you'd be lucky, basically.
I have an ATA-186 that Vonage unlocked for me. They used to just charge 
$20 or so (on top of the cancellation fee) to unlock any device that 
wasn't active. You'll have to get through their first line of support 
and eventually transferred. They *may* have changed the policy with the 
linksys boxes, as they couldn't do it when they first came out (I 
tried). Now that linksys sells an unlocked version they may well be 
willing though.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage Linksys Router - Life after Vonage

2005-03-24 Thread Matt
Indeed.. there is no $40 cancellation fee unless you fail to return
their ATA.. then they charge you and it's yours... what you think
those devices are free?
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage Linksys Router - Life after Vonage

2005-03-24 Thread Damon Estep
  I too have heard of people persuading a vonage tech to provide the
  password to log into and factory reset their device, but I get the
  impression that it is an uncommon occurrence.. you'd be lucky,
 basically.
 
 I have an ATA-186 that Vonage unlocked for me. They used to just
charge
 $20 or so (on top of the cancellation fee) to unlock any device that
 wasn't active. You'll have to get through their first line of support
 and eventually transferred. They *may* have changed the policy with
the
 linksys boxes, as they couldn't do it when they first came out (I
 tried). Now that linksys sells an unlocked version they may well be
 willing though.
 

We are an authorized Linksys service provider (meaning we can buy
Linksys ata's for use with our service from distribution) and I know
from our agreement that vonage, or any other itsp, is prohibited from
making the Linksys ata's available in an unprovisioned state. Even the
NA product can only be sold to authorized itsp. I think this is why
vonage will not unlock the Linksys for you. If it gets back to Linksys
that they did it they will get a hand slap from Linksys.

Why not just return the Linksys to vonage, get your 40 bucks back, and
buy the sipura spa2000? They are the same thing, also sold under the
vegastream brand.

If you really want to try to hack the Linksys try looking for
information on how to recover a sipura password, not sure it exists, but
you might have better luck.

In the end you will probably just end up with a $40 paperweight. If you
are successful and post the process you will make a lot of unhappy
ex-vonage customers happy and Linksys and vonage not so happy :)
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage Linksys Router - Life after Vonage

2005-03-24 Thread Brian Capouch
Matt wrote:
Indeed.. there is no $40 cancellation fee unless you fail to return
their ATA.. then they charge you and it's yours... what you think
those devices are free?
I'm pretty sure Vonage added that termination fee some fair while after 
they began offering free ATAs as an inducement to use their service.

I signed up in May 2002, and at that time there was no mention of a 
termination or disconnect fee in their TOS.

It wasn't until after a very lively cottage industry sprang up selling 
cancelled account units on Ebay that they retroactively added that charge.

But $40 for a ~$150 ATA was still a good deal for the grifters, and 
after continuing to take a beating on Ebay, Vonage finally inveighed 
upon Cisco to put the nuclear option password on the unit, which made 
it a brick if one didn't know the magic string.

An irony quickly followed: Cisco wasn't all too keen on doing that 
change; they were aware of the negative PR that would follow when they 
would be forced to tell people, Nope, you have to just send it to a 
landfill.  But within months of Cisco's reluctant accomodation, Vonage 
dropped them like a hot potato when Motorola walked in the door with an 
ATA that was .0001 cents cheaper per unit.  Ha ha.

Vonage sucks, and if I could port that number I've had now for almost 
three years, I would drop them just like they did Cisco.

B.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage Linksys Router - Life after Vonage

2005-03-24 Thread dean collins
Brian, are you sure you cant port your number aware from Vonage?

I was at a VOIP conference last week and the Vonage spokesman said quite
clearly that Vonage allowed people to port numbers out - although he did
say that not all carriers were set up to receive them.


Cheers,
Dean


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Matt wrote:
 Indeed.. there is no $40 cancellation fee unless you fail to return
 their ATA.. then they charge you and it's yours... what you think
 those devices are free?

I'm pretty sure Vonage added that termination fee some fair while after 
they began offering free ATAs as an inducement to use their service.

I signed up in May 2002, and at that time there was no mention of a 
termination or disconnect fee in their TOS.

It wasn't until after a very lively cottage industry sprang up selling 
cancelled account units on Ebay that they retroactively added that
charge.

But $40 for a ~$150 ATA was still a good deal for the grifters, and 
after continuing to take a beating on Ebay, Vonage finally inveighed 
upon Cisco to put the nuclear option password on the unit, which made 
it a brick if one didn't know the magic string.

An irony quickly followed: Cisco wasn't all too keen on doing that 
change; they were aware of the negative PR that would follow when they 
would be forced to tell people, Nope, you have to just send it to a 
landfill.  But within months of Cisco's reluctant accomodation, Vonage 
dropped them like a hot potato when Motorola walked in the door with an 
ATA that was .0001 cents cheaper per unit.  Ha ha.

Vonage sucks, and if I could port that number I've had now for almost 
three years, I would drop them just like they did Cisco.

B.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage Linksys Router - Life after Vonage

2005-03-24 Thread Time Bandit
 Why not just return the Linksys to vonage, get your 40 bucks back, and
 buy the sipura spa2000? They are the same thing, also sold under the
 vegastream brand.
Or, why don't you return it to Vonage, get your $40 bucks, then buy a
P2P-NA from eezeephone.com at $59 + $10 shipping ?

For only $30 you'll have the same device but not locked.

N.B.: the site is down now, the server crashed today
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage Linksys Router - Life after Vonage

2005-03-24 Thread Time Bandit
 Why not just return the Linksys to vonage, get your 40 bucks back, and
 buy the sipura spa2000? They are the same thing, also sold under the
 vegastream brand.
Or, why don't you return it to Vonage, get your $40 bucks, then buy a
-NA from eezeephone.com  ?

N.B.: the site is down now, the server crashed today
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage Linksys Router - Life after Vonage

2005-03-23 Thread Matthew Boehm
GP wrote:
 I setup a vonage account last year, and cancelled it last night when I
 put my asterisk box together and signed up for a Broadvoice account to
 use with it.

 Now I would like to use my Linksys router as an MTA, but realize it is
 still programmed with all of vonage's proprietary information and I do
 not know how to clear it.  I understand that just pushing the reset
 button will not do it.

 I've read that someone was able to do it by contacting vonage and
 getting instructions for clearing the router of the vonage
 information. Does anyone have the instructions for completing this or
 is this something that only the vonage people can provide.

 I've spent the last 2 hours and 30 minutes in the vonage phone system
 trying to get to tech support to find out how to do this without any
 luck.  Their phone system and indeed their customer support in general
 is really lacking.

 (On top of which, they charged me a $40 termination fee to terminate
 my account - just a parting shot I guess).

 If anyone has any suggestions, or the instructions for clearing the
 MTA on this linksys router, I'd be very greatful.

 GP

The PAP2-NA's have a web interface. I realize you don't have a -NA2 but you
could try it.

-Matthew

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage Linksys Router - Life after Vonage

2005-03-23 Thread Greg Hill
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, GP wrote:
I've read that someone was able to do it by contacting vonage and getting 
instructions for clearing the router of the vonage information.  Does anyone 
have the instructions for completing this or is this something that only the 
vonage people can provide. 
I've spent the last 2 hours and 30 minutes in the vonage phone system trying 
to get to tech support to find out how to do this without any luck.  Their 
phone system and indeed their customer support in general is really lacking.
on the Cisco ATA-186s which they used to use (before Cisco EOL'ed them) 
Vonage had them configured to use a (64-bit?) RC4 key to encrypt the 
configuration and programmed a random password to each device. Every time 
an account change prompted an update to the ATA's configuration, it would 
be encrypted with a new RC4 key and get a new password. So don't expect to 
find a universal back-door password, I doubt you'll find one.

I too have heard of people persuading a vonage tech to provide the 
password to log into and factory reset their device, but I get the 
impression that it is an uncommon occurrence.. you'd be lucky, basically.

(On top of which, they charged me a $40 termination fee to terminate my 
account - just a parting shot I guess).
yup.. That right there was the primary reason why I skipped over them in 
the beginning. It's buried in their terms of service somewhere, along with 
all their other over-restrictive junk..

If anyone has any suggestions, or the instructions for clearing the MTA on 
this linksys router, I'd be very greatful.
you could try faking out the box by setting up some DNS and network 
spoofing to make the box think it is talking to vonage when in fact it is 
talking to your * box. If you use autocreatepeer in sip.conf then * will 
accept connections from the PAP2 even though you haven't added the 
credentials in sip.conf. This is quite a kludge, however..

When it comes down to it, I think Vonage thinks it is better to make 
people throw equipment away rather than allow it to be reused.

Greg
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage Linksys Router - Life after Vonage

2005-03-23 Thread Paul Fielding
(On top of which, they charged me a $40 termination fee to terminate
my account - just a parting shot I guess).
People need to read the fine print more.  From Vonage's website:
If you cancel after the first 14 days of service, you will be subject to 
the $39.99 termination fee. If you return the device, we will refund the 
termination fee.

The $40 termination fee isn't a stab in the back for leaving them.  It's an 
assurance that you return their hardware.  If you don't return it, you just 
bought it

regards,
Paul 

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage a provider?

2005-03-12 Thread Paul Fielding
Don't sweat it - it just so happens that you came into the fray just moments 
after this list has had a big long drawn out argument about newbie etiquete 
(sp?).  You've just managed to get caught in the middle.  Don't let it be 
indicative of how everyone feels, and don't let it scare you away... :)

regards,
Paul
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To: 'C F' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - 
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Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 3:49 PM
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage a provider?


Sorry to have caused such a ruckus.  It was not my intent to 'anger' 
someone
with a noob question.  I did a look-up on Google, hence me getting the
information about this mail list.  I am sorry that I am not a Google guru
like you, so that my look-up did not get me the information I needed, so
that I had to 'bother' an actual person and not some search engine.  I 
guess
some people were never noobs. :)

Regardless, thank you for your response and information.
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Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 3:16 PM
To: Wiley Siler; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage a provider?
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:56:20 -0700, Wiley Siler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't feel I am mistreating you in asking you not to dump on a noob.
Even if you do not think he is a noob and he is just lazy.
You wrote:
Why answer? because I don't want this to happen again. But I
dont' care to help him/her or even you.
Sorry this should have been:
Why answer? because I don't want this to happen again. But I don't
mind to help him/her or even you.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage a provider?

2005-03-12 Thread Frank Abernathy
Thanks.  I am not jilted by any means.  But I did not want to cause any
problems with the established community.  Who knows, I might stick around
long enough to stop being such a noob!   :)

BTW, to ALL that responded to my initial question, Thanks a bunch!

Frank...

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Don't sweat it - it just so happens that you came into the fray just moments

after this list has had a big long drawn out argument about newbie etiquete 
(sp?).  You've just managed to get caught in the middle.  Don't let it be 
indicative of how everyone feels, and don't let it scare you away... :)

regards,

Paul

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 Sorry to have caused such a ruckus.  It was not my intent to 'anger' 
 someone
 with a noob question.  I did a look-up on Google, hence me getting the
 information about this mail list.  I am sorry that I am not a Google guru
 like you, so that my look-up did not get me the information I needed, so
 that I had to 'bother' an actual person and not some search engine.  I 
 guess
 some people were never noobs. :)

 Regardless, thank you for your response and information.

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 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage a provider?

 On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:56:20 -0700, Wiley Siler
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't feel I am mistreating you in asking you not to dump on a noob.
 Even if you do not think he is a noob and he is just lazy.

 You wrote:

 Why answer? because I don't want this to happen again. But I
 dont' care to help him/her or even you.
 Sorry this should have been:
 Why answer? because I don't want this to happen again. But I don't
 mind to help him/her or even you.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage a provider?

2005-03-11 Thread Greg Hill
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005, Frank Abernathy wrote:

 I am new to the mailing list, but I am very interested in running my small
 home business office phone system using Asterisk.  However, Broadvoice, a
 VoIP provider of choice based on my research, is not available in my area.

 I currently use Vonage VoIP.  Their website mentions nothing about being
 able to link to Asterisk.  I was wondering if any US subscribers have been
 able to configure Vonage with Asterisk.  Or if anyone has found Vonage to be
 a non-compatible provider.

The only known (to me) way to connect Asterisk and vonage is to buy their
normal service using their provided terminal adapter, and then connect
that to a card in the Asterisk box, or to add on a softphone account and
feed those credentials to Asterisk so that it can connect with their
servers directly.

If you go to google and search for asterisk vonage site:lists.digium.com
you'll find references to several sample configurations.

Greg


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage a provider?

2005-03-11 Thread Wiley Siler
And if getting service is your only concern then look at these

Teliax.com
Livevoip.com
Voipjet.com


There are more but those are I can think of right now.

W
 

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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage a provider?

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005, Frank Abernathy wrote:

 I am new to the mailing list, but I am very interested in running my 
 small home business office phone system using Asterisk.  However, 
 Broadvoice, a VoIP provider of choice based on my research, is not
available in my area.

 I currently use Vonage VoIP.  Their website mentions nothing about 
 being able to link to Asterisk.  I was wondering if any US subscribers

 have been able to configure Vonage with Asterisk.  Or if anyone has 
 found Vonage to be a non-compatible provider.

The only known (to me) way to connect Asterisk and vonage is to buy
their normal service using their provided terminal adapter, and then
connect that to a card in the Asterisk box, or to add on a softphone
account and feed those credentials to Asterisk so that it can connect
with their servers directly.

If you go to google and search for asterisk vonage site:lists.digium.com
you'll find references to several sample configurations.

Greg


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage a provider?

2005-03-11 Thread John Novack




It is my understanding that
Vonage will provide an ADDITIONAL number that they call a "soft phone"
account that can connect to Asterisk.
AFAIK, the main account that connects to your ATA has to use that box,
so you would need an analog card configured in Asterisk ( FXO ) to
use that number.

There was some mention of this on the list a week or two ago, and soon
the "list police" will yell at you for not searching first through the
list archives and the wiki, usually with less than satisfactory results.

John Novack


Frank Abernathy wrote:

  
  
  
  
  
  
  I am new to the mailing
list, but I am very interested in
running my small home business office phone system using Asterisk.
However,
Broadvoice, a VoIP provider of choice based on my research, is not
available in
my area.
  
  I currently use Vonage
VoIP. Their website mentions nothing
about being able to link to Asterisk. I was wondering if any US
subscribers have
been able to configure Vonage with Asterisk. Or if anyone has found
Vonage to
be a non-compatible provider.
  
  TIA!
  
  Frank
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage a provider?

2005-03-11 Thread Dalon Westergreen
i believe that only vonage's softphone can be configured with asterisk.

--Dalon


On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:33:26 -0600, Frank Abernathy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
 
 I am new to the mailing list, but I am very interested in running my small
 home business office phone system using Asterisk.  However, Broadvoice, a
 VoIP provider of choice based on my research, is not available in my area. 
 
   
 
 I currently use Vonage VoIP.  Their website mentions nothing about being
 able to link to Asterisk.  I was wondering if any US subscribers have been
 able to configure Vonage with Asterisk.  Or if anyone has found Vonage to be
 a non-compatible provider. 
 
   
 
 TIA! 
 
   
 
 Frank 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
   
 
   
 
   
  
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage a provider?

2005-03-11 Thread Wiley Siler
Which happens to not be covered as an unlimited service.  You will have
to pay for minutes though some are included by default.

W 

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Westergreen
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage a provider?

i believe that only vonage's softphone can be configured with asterisk.

--Dalon


On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:33:26 -0600, Frank Abernathy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  
  
 
 I am new to the mailing list, but I am very interested in running my 
 small home business office phone system using Asterisk.  However, 
 Broadvoice, a VoIP provider of choice based on my research, is not
available in my area.
 
   
 
 I currently use Vonage VoIP.  Their website mentions nothing about 
 being able to link to Asterisk.  I was wondering if any US subscribers

 have been able to configure Vonage with Asterisk.  Or if anyone has 
 found Vonage to be a non-compatible provider.
 
   
 
 TIA! 
 
   
 
 Frank
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage a provider?

2005-03-11 Thread C F
What about a simple search like this in google:
vonage site:voip-info.org
I think the first hit is what you are looking for. Why burn some
electrons on my machine b/c you are lazy?


On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:33:26 -0600, Frank Abernathy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
 
 I am new to the mailing list, but I am very interested in running my small
 home business office phone system using Asterisk.  However, Broadvoice, a
 VoIP provider of choice based on my research, is not available in my area. 
 
   
 
 I currently use Vonage VoIP.  Their website mentions nothing about being
 able to link to Asterisk.  I was wondering if any US subscribers have been
 able to configure Vonage with Asterisk.  Or if anyone has found Vonage to be
 a non-compatible provider. 
 
   
 
 TIA! 
 
   
 
 Frank 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
   
 
   
 
   
  
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage a provider?

2005-03-11 Thread Cirelle Internet Products
Frank Abernathy wrote:
I am new to the mailing list, but I am very interested in running my small
home business office phone system using Asterisk.  However, Broadvoice, a
VoIP provider of choice based on my research, is not available in my area.

I currently use Vonage VoIP.  Their website mentions nothing about being
able to link to Asterisk.  I was wondering if any US subscribers have been
able to configure Vonage with Asterisk.  Or if anyone has found Vonage to be
a non-compatible provider.
 

When I spoke to them, the only help I got was to plug their device into 
an fxo port on the asterisk
server and use it just as you would a pots line.  wasn't what I was 
looking for.

g
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage a provider?

2005-03-11 Thread Wiley Siler
Why answer if you are bothered?  Isn't that just burning more of those
electrons of yours?  8)

People get stuck on things and need a hand.  Doesn't mean they are lazy
by default.
They just don't know better.

In this case, it is a good chance to direct him to other providers who
do what he wants.
That strengthens the providers, strengthens the market for voip, and
that will improve things for ALL voip users.
Why ot just drop the hint for how the user can get things they want and
let them learn.
Todays noob is tomorrows Asterisk contributor.

Like mama said, if you don't have anything nice to say, you should not
say anything at all.
At least that is how I feel about noobs and silly questions.

Cheers,
Wiley




 

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Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 12:17 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage a provider?

What about a simple search like this in google:
vonage site:voip-info.org
I think the first hit is what you are looking for. Why burn some
electrons on my machine b/c you are lazy?


On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:33:26 -0600, Frank Abernathy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  
  
 
 I am new to the mailing list, but I am very interested in running my 
 small home business office phone system using Asterisk.  However, 
 Broadvoice, a VoIP provider of choice based on my research, is not
available in my area.
 
   
 
 I currently use Vonage VoIP.  Their website mentions nothing about 
 being able to link to Asterisk.  I was wondering if any US subscribers

 have been able to configure Vonage with Asterisk.  Or if anyone has 
 found Vonage to be a non-compatible provider.
 
   
 
 TIA! 
 
   
 
 Frank
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage a provider?

2005-03-11 Thread Griepentrog Scott (ATLINKS)
Configuring asterisk for vonage isn't actually a piece of cake.  Here is my 
config (had to combine several different sample config's from internet to get 
smething to work):

Of course, the number and password has been changed to protect the innocent...

register = {phone#}:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:5061/incoming

[sphone.vopr.vonage.net]
secret = {password}
username = {phone#}
insecure = very
disallow = all
allow = ulaw
port = 5061
host = sphone.vopr.vonage.net
nat = yes
type = peer
canreinvite = no
dtmfmode = rfc2833
fromuser = {phone#}
context = incoming


Note that this works only on softphone lines, which you can only order after 
you're already paying for the main service (ata).





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Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 2:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage a provider?


What about a simple search like this in google:
vonage site:voip-info.org
I think the first hit is what you are looking for. Why burn some
electrons on my machine b/c you are lazy?


On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:33:26 -0600, Frank Abernathy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
 
 I am new to the mailing list, but I am very interested in running my small
 home business office phone system using Asterisk.  However, Broadvoice, a
 VoIP provider of choice based on my research, is not available in my area. 
 
   
 
 I currently use Vonage VoIP.  Their website mentions nothing about being
 able to link to Asterisk.  I was wondering if any US subscribers have been
 able to configure Vonage with Asterisk.  Or if anyone has found Vonage to be
 a non-compatible provider. 
 
   
 
 TIA! 
 
   
 
 Frank 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
   
 
   
 
   
  
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage a provider?

2005-03-11 Thread C F
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:34:04 -0700, Wiley Siler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Why answer? because I don't want this to happen again. But I dont'
care to help him/her or even you.
If the answer is as close to someone as a single line in google, I
don't understand why this is called giving a hand? this will just
teach some ppl to be ever more lazy.


 Why answer if you are bothered?  Isn't that just burning more of those
 electrons of yours?  8)
Burning more electrons. Nope, maybe he/she and you will learn for next
time, so I saved those electrons. Now don't ask me if I'm burning more
electrons now. I dont' think so look above.


 People get stuck on things and need a hand.  Doesn't mean they are lazy
 by default.
If all they had to do is search for vonage on voip-info.org and there
it is, then it does mean that they are lazy.

 They just don't know better.
They don't know better? I think they do. How did they get to this list then?
 
 In this case, it is a good chance to direct him to other providers who
 do what he wants.
He doesn't want other providers he want vonage, and vonage does it.
(you are also one of those lazy ones, you didn't even search it on
voip-info.org).

 That strengthens the providers, strengthens the market for voip, and
 that will improve things for ALL voip users.
I can't agree more with you, and thats exactly why vonage offers it.
Hopefuly because vonage offers it, broadvoice will start offering it
in his area soon.

 Why ot just drop the hint for how the user can get things they want and
 let them learn.
That's exactly what I did. As well as asked that person to please search first.

 Todays noob is tomorrows Asterisk contributor.
 
 Like mama said, if you don't have anything nice to say, you should not
 say anything at all.

I did, I tought him how to use google for a specific site (BTW, you
can do the same thing from within voip-info.org, thats how their
search tool works).

 At least that is how I feel about noobs and silly questions.

This has nothing to do with noobs and/or silly questions. This has to
do with not doing any research but wanting others to do it for you.
 
 Cheers,
 Wiley

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage a provider?

2005-03-11 Thread Wiley Siler
It is MORE than apparent that you do not want to help me.
Fortunately, I am not asking for your help.

However, if you don't care to answer politely, then why answer at all?
Treating people crappy over an email is stupid.
Just ignore the noob and move on with your life if you don't want to
answer.

Regardless, you seriously need to come to terms with the fact that it
WILL continue to happen.
New users will always equal people without a clue.  
They will come here not knowing how to do anything or how to find
anything.

IMPORTANT DISTINCTION COMING
Whether they stay and become users, contributors, and purchasers of
service or equipment has a lot to do with how they are treated at the
outset.
IMPORTANT DISTINCTION COMPLETE

If they do not KNOW that voip-info exists how are they supposed to look
there?
Because someone found the usergroup from Digium .com, they should know
how to use Google to site:lists.digium.com?  Or they should
automatically know where the Wiki is?  I recognize that there are links
they could have followed but it is just noobitis.  They get
overwhelmed or don't know the next move. Or maybe don't know the
etiquite.  If they are just drifting through and not destined to be
users, they will go away.  If they are destined to be users, we should
shape them into good one. A good teacher would encourages them and move
on.  Not chastize them.

Research is the issue?  Then point them to where they should go and let
them do it.
I agree with your general feelings on when people come here looking for
htings they should be able to get themselves.
I just don't agree with how to handle it.

For you, it would be better for everyone if you just deleted the email
and ignored the person.
You would be happy and the person who asked could get an answer from
someone else.
Then we can correct the person so they can be a GOOD submitter to the
list.
That way we all benefit.

Cheers,
Wiley



 

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On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:34:04 -0700, Wiley Siler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Why answer? because I don't want this to happen again. But I dont'
care to help him/her or even you.
If the answer is as close to someone as a single line in google, I don't
understand why this is called giving a hand? this will just teach some
ppl to be ever more lazy.


 Why answer if you are bothered?  Isn't that just burning more of those

 electrons of yours?  8)
Burning more electrons. Nope, maybe he/she and you will learn for next
time, so I saved those electrons. Now don't ask me if I'm burning more
electrons now. I dont' think so look above.


 People get stuck on things and need a hand.  Doesn't mean they are 
 lazy by default.
If all they had to do is search for vonage on voip-info.org and there it
is, then it does mean that they are lazy.

 They just don't know better.
They don't know better? I think they do. How did they get to this list
then?
 
 In this case, it is a good chance to direct him to other providers who

 do what he wants.
He doesn't want other providers he want vonage, and vonage does it.
(you are also one of those lazy ones, you didn't even search it on
voip-info.org).

 That strengthens the providers, strengthens the market for voip, and 
 that will improve things for ALL voip users.
I can't agree more with you, and thats exactly why vonage offers it.
Hopefuly because vonage offers it, broadvoice will start offering it in
his area soon.

 Why ot just drop the hint for how the user can get things they want 
 and let them learn.
That's exactly what I did. As well as asked that person to please search
first.

 Todays noob is tomorrows Asterisk contributor.
 
 Like mama said, if you don't have anything nice to say, you should not

 say anything at all.

I did, I tought him how to use google for a specific site (BTW, you can
do the same thing from within voip-info.org, thats how their search tool
works).

 At least that is how I feel about noobs and silly questions.

This has nothing to do with noobs and/or silly questions. This has to do
with not doing any research but wanting others to do it for you.
 
 Cheers,
 Wiley

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage a provider?

2005-03-11 Thread C F
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:16:23 -0700, Wiley Siler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

How is this apparent, I would be glad to help you, when you ask. I
know you didn't ask for my help.

 It is MORE than apparent that you do not want to help me.
 Fortunately, I am not asking for your help.
 
 However, if you don't care to answer politely, then why answer at all?
Becuase that person is asking for help.

 Treating people crappy over an email is stupid.
So why are you doing it?


 Just ignore the noob and move on with your life if you don't want to
 answer.
As I stated before this has nothing to do with the noob.
 
 Regardless, you seriously need to come to terms with the fact that it
 WILL continue to happen.
I know it will, but you are not helping anything.

 New users will always equal people without a clue.
This is not true, if the research is done then they will have a clue.

 They will come here not knowing how to do anything or how to find
 anything.
Then how did they end up here? they got an invite in the post?

 
 IMPORTANT DISTINCTION COMING
 Whether they stay and become users, contributors, and purchasers of
 service or equipment has a lot to do with how they are treated at the
 outset.
 IMPORTANT DISTINCTION COMPLETE

This is about the only thing that you wrote that makes me think that
maybe I should have not put in the line about being lazy, so that
person stays around as a member of this community. But I doubt that
this will push him off (after what you wrote for sure not).

 If they do not KNOW that voip-info exists how are they supposed to look
 there?

Again and again, how did they end up on this list? That's the same way
they could find out about the wiki.

 Because someone found the usergroup from Digium .com, they should know
 how to use Google to site:lists.digium.com?  Or they should
 automatically know where the Wiki is?  I recognize that there are links
 they could have followed but it is just noobitis.  They get
 overwhelmed or don't know the next move. Or maybe don't know the
 etiquite.  If they are just drifting through and not destined to be
 users, they will go away.  If they are destined to be users, we should
 shape them into good one. A good teacher would encourages them and move
 on.  Not chastize them.
 
 Research is the issue?  Then point them to where they should go and let
 them do it.
 I agree with your general feelings on when people come here looking for
 htings they should be able to get themselves.
 I just don't agree with how to handle it.
 For you, it would be better for everyone if you just deleted the email
 and ignored the person.
 You would be happy and the person who asked could get an answer from
 someone else.
 Then we can correct the person so they can be a GOOD submitter to the
 list.
 That way we all benefit.
 
 Cheers,
 Wiley
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage a provider?

2005-03-11 Thread Wiley Siler
I don't feel I am mistreating you in asking you not to dump on a noob.  
Even if you do not think he is a noob and he is just lazy. 

You wrote:

Why answer? because I don't want this to happen again. But I
dont' care to help him/her or even you.

Maybe that is a mistake in what you wrote.  I read that as I don't care
to help him or you.
Doesn't really matter though.  As stated before I was not asking.  Nor
will I be.

I am not making it any better?  Beating a dog does not make it stop
pissing on the carpet.
Taking it outside and teaching it to use the lawn does.  Which one of us
is beating the dog?

Some people get overwhelmed and research is missed. 
I agree that sometimes it is just sheer laziness but it is a list group
for petes sake. 
It is voluntary and no one is entitled to anything here. 
No one is entitled to low bandwidth usage.  
No one is entitled to an answer. 
Anyone who signs up gets what they get and we can all make it good or
bad.
If you don't like an email, delete it and move on.
If you are concerned with bandwidth usage, unsubscribe.
I have seen people complain about bandwidth or post count many times.
If anyone is a bandwidth miser then why are they signing up for a
mailing list?
I never have figured that one out.

No one is entitled to a low number of posts that have been vetted for
relevence 
and encompass the requests only the most worthy and learned of Asterisk
users.

There will be dumb questions, lazy questions, and silly questions.
Hell, I just asked a silly question 30 minutes ago.  It happens.
Bitchslapping the questioner accomplishes nothing.  
Nothing gets learned other than Wow, those guys are rude.
Getting on this site does not equal competency.  
Many people can make it this far and just need to be taught the
etiquette and given the basic tour.
Getting frustrated over the extra emails is a waste of time.

Regardless, like I said.  I want the new guys to learn the ropes and
become old guys.
In all the most polite ways I mean this.  You do your thing.  I'll do
mine.
Which one of us will be helping the community?

The dog catcher who wants to euthenize all the noobs.
Or
The dog trainer that teachs them how to be part of the community?

The philisophical ball is in your court, though I would love to just
move on and call it good at this point.

Cheers,
Wiley






-Original Message-
From: C F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 1:37 PM
To: Wiley Siler; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage a provider?

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:16:23 -0700, Wiley Siler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

How is this apparent, I would be glad to help you, when you ask. I know
you didn't ask for my help.

 It is MORE than apparent that you do not want to help me.
 Fortunately, I am not asking for your help.
 
 However, if you don't care to answer politely, then why answer at all?
Becuase that person is asking for help.

 Treating people crappy over an email is stupid.
So why are you doing it?


 Just ignore the noob and move on with your life if you don't want to 
 answer.
As I stated before this has nothing to do with the noob.
 
 Regardless, you seriously need to come to terms with the fact that it 
 WILL continue to happen.
I know it will, but you are not helping anything.

 New users will always equal people without a clue.
This is not true, if the research is done then they will have a clue.

 They will come here not knowing how to do anything or how to find 
 anything.
Then how did they end up here? they got an invite in the post?

 
 IMPORTANT DISTINCTION COMING
 Whether they stay and become users, contributors, and purchasers of 
 service or equipment has a lot to do with how they are treated at the 
 outset.
 IMPORTANT DISTINCTION COMPLETE

This is about the only thing that you wrote that makes me think that
maybe I should have not put in the line about being lazy, so that person
stays around as a member of this community. But I doubt that this will
push him off (after what you wrote for sure not).

 If they do not KNOW that voip-info exists how are they supposed to 
 look there?

Again and again, how did they end up on this list? That's the same way
they could find out about the wiki.

 Because someone found the usergroup from Digium .com, they should know

 how to use Google to site:lists.digium.com?  Or they should 
 automatically know where the Wiki is?  I recognize that there are 
 links they could have followed but it is just noobitis.  They get 
 overwhelmed or don't know the next move. Or maybe don't know the 
 etiquite.  If they are just drifting through and not destined to be 
 users, they will go away.  If they are destined to be users, we should

 shape them into good one. A good teacher would encourages them and 
 move on.  Not chastize them.
 
 Research is the issue?  Then point them to where they should go and 
 let them do it.
 I agree with your general feelings on when people come here

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage a provider?

2005-03-11 Thread C F
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:56:20 -0700, Wiley Siler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't feel I am mistreating you in asking you not to dump on a noob.
 Even if you do not think he is a noob and he is just lazy.
 
 You wrote:
 
 Why answer? because I don't want this to happen again. But I
 dont' care to help him/her or even you.
Sorry this should have been:
Why answer? because I don't want this to happen again. But I don't
mind to help him/her or even you.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage a provider?

2005-03-11 Thread Jay Milk
We've been over that -- could you take it off list, please?

 -Original Message-
 From: Wiley Siler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 2:56 PM
 To: C F; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage a provider?
 
 
 I don't feel I am mistreating you in asking you not to dump 
 on a noob.  
 Even if you do not think he is a noob and he is just lazy. 
 
 You wrote:
 
   Why answer? because I don't want this to happen again. 
 But I dont' care to help him/her or even you.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage a provider?

2005-03-11 Thread Frank Abernathy
Sorry to have caused such a ruckus.  It was not my intent to 'anger' someone
with a noob question.  I did a look-up on Google, hence me getting the
information about this mail list.  I am sorry that I am not a Google guru
like you, so that my look-up did not get me the information I needed, so
that I had to 'bother' an actual person and not some search engine.  I guess
some people were never noobs. :)

Regardless, thank you for your response and information.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C F
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 3:16 PM
To: Wiley Siler; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage a provider?

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:56:20 -0700, Wiley Siler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't feel I am mistreating you in asking you not to dump on a noob.
 Even if you do not think he is a noob and he is just lazy.
 
 You wrote:
 
 Why answer? because I don't want this to happen again. But I
 dont' care to help him/her or even you.
Sorry this should have been:
Why answer? because I don't want this to happen again. But I don't
mind to help him/her or even you.
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OT: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage a provider?

2005-03-11 Thread Richard Lyman
*snipped
Taking it outside and teaching it to use the lawn does. 
 

*snipped
it's the weekend guys, can you guys give it a rest till monday? 

respectfully
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage --- Asterisk Complete Config

2005-02-25 Thread Randy Johnson
I thought Vonage did not allow this?
-Randy
Nitesh Divecha wrote:
Hello Asterisk Users, 

After Brain storming for couple of hours, days, and weeks, finally got
Asterisk to work with Vonage for Inbound and Outbound calls.
Requirement: -
1) Vonage Softphone account
2) Asterisk
3) Couple of SIP Phones
Here is my sip.conf
[general]
port = 5060   ; Port to bind to (SIP is 5060)
bindaddr = Local IP; Address to bind to (all addresses on machine)
context=incoming
disallow=all
allow=ulaw
allow=alaw
allow=g729
allow=g723
externip=External IP
localnet=Local IP
localmask=Local mask
nat=yes
register=VonageDID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:5061/202
[vonage-out]
username=VonageDID
type=friend
secret=password
port=5061
nat=yes
host=sphone.vopr.vonage.net
fromuser=VonageDID
fromdomain=sphone.vopr.vonage.net
dtmfmode=rfc2833
auth=md5
[vonage202]
username=VonageDID
type=friend
secret=password
port=5061
nat=yes
insecure=very
host=sphone.vopr.vonage.net
fromuser=VonageDID
fromdomain=sphone.vopr.vonage.net
dtmfmode=inband
context=from-pstn
canreinvite=no
auth=md5
Here is my extension.conf
[ext-did]
exten = VonageDID,1,Goto(ext-local,202,1) 
or 
exten = VonageDID,1,Goto(aa_1,s,1) If you are sending the call to IVR.

For some this configuration might vary as my Asterisk is behind NAT. 

Asterisk Rocks!!! Enjoy
Many thanks to Jay  Dean
Neel

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage --- Asterisk Complete Config

2005-02-25 Thread Greg Blakely
Vonage doesn't sell just a softphone account -- or at least they didn't
about six months ago when I was a Vonage customer.  But they do allow a
softphone as an add-on to an ATA-based account.  

Because the softphone account works with openly available soft clients,
it also works with asterisk.  The big secret is that they use port
5061, rather than port 5060.  

 
 I thought Vonage did not allow this?
 
 
 -Randy
 
 
 Nitesh Divecha wrote:
 
 Hello Asterisk Users,
 
 After Brain storming for couple of hours, days, and weeks, 
 finally got 
 Asterisk to work with Vonage for Inbound and Outbound calls.
 
 Requirement: -
 1) Vonage Softphone account
 2) Asterisk
 3) Couple of SIP Phones
 
[snip]

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage --- Asterisk Complete Config

2005-02-25 Thread Jay Milk
Must have missed a few messages :)  Vonage always allowed this on
softphone lines.  Those are $10/month with metered usage (100 min
included).  They also require a hardline (ATA) as the primary line on
the account.  It's a working crutch for those folks who need a DID in a
rate-center only vonage offers -- but that number, thankfully, is
decreasing.

 -Original Message-
 From: Randy Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 6:27 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List - 
 Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage --- Asterisk Complete Config
 
 
 I thought Vonage did not allow this?
 
 
 -Randy
 
 
 Nitesh Divecha wrote:
 
 Hello Asterisk Users,
 
 After Brain storming for couple of hours, days, and weeks, 
 finally got 
 Asterisk to work with Vonage for Inbound and Outbound calls.
 
 Requirement: -
 1) Vonage Softphone account
 2) Asterisk
 3) Couple of SIP Phones
 
 Here is my sip.conf
 
 [general]
 port = 5060   ; Port to bind to (SIP is 5060)
 bindaddr = Local IP; Address to bind to (all 
 addresses on machine)
 context=incoming
 disallow=all
 allow=ulaw
 allow=alaw
 allow=g729
 allow=g723
 externip=External IP
 localnet=Local IP
 localmask=Local mask
 nat=yes
 
 register=VonageDID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:5061/202
 
 [vonage-out]
 username=VonageDID
 type=friend
 secret=password
 port=5061
 nat=yes
 host=sphone.vopr.vonage.net
 fromuser=VonageDID
 fromdomain=sphone.vopr.vonage.net
 dtmfmode=rfc2833
 auth=md5
 
 [vonage202]
 username=VonageDID
 type=friend
 secret=password
 port=5061
 nat=yes
 insecure=very
 host=sphone.vopr.vonage.net
 fromuser=VonageDID
 fromdomain=sphone.vopr.vonage.net
 dtmfmode=inband
 context=from-pstn
 canreinvite=no
 auth=md5
 
 Here is my extension.conf
 
 [ext-did]
 exten = VonageDID,1,Goto(ext-local,202,1)
 or 
 exten = VonageDID,1,Goto(aa_1,s,1) If you are sending 
 the call to IVR.
 
 For some this configuration might vary as my Asterisk is behind NAT.
 
 Asterisk Rocks!!! Enjoy
 
 Many thanks to Jay  Dean
 
 Neel
 
 
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage --- Asterisk Working Config!

2005-02-23 Thread dean collins
Hi Nitesh, check out my config that I have for the Faktortel config in
the [EMAIL PROTECTED] sourceforge forum, you'll probably be able to work out
how to set it up from there.


Cheers,
Dean


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nitesh
Divecha
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:12 PM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage --- Asterisk Working Config!

Hello All,

I know this question has already been answered but for some reason I am
failing to receive inbound calls.

I got my [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.6 setup for inbound and outbound and I can make
successful outbound calls. My Asterisk is registered with Vonage
successfully also. 

The only problem I am facing is inbound calls. I enabled the sip debug
and
I can see inbound calls coming in but then asterisk destroys it for some
unknown reason. 

Does anyone have a working config for inbound call?

Thanks Jay for all your help

Nitesh


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage --- Asterisk Working Config!

2005-02-23 Thread Nitesh Divecha
Hey Dean,

I followed your instructions and moved forward abit... Before it used to say
SIP 2.0 404 Not Found. But now with your settings I am getting SIP/2.0 407
Proxy Authentication Required.

And yea for some unknown reason the TRUNK name and USER CONTEXT has to be
same don't know why... 

But still no success for inbound calls... 

This is my sip.conf

[vonage]
username=VonageDID
type=friend
secret=blah
port=5061
nat=yes
insecure=very
host=sphone.vopr.vonage.net
fromuser=VonageDID
fromdomain=sphone.vopr.vonage.net
dtmfmode=inband
context=from-pstn
canreinvite=no
auth=md5

[vonage-out]
username=VonageDID
type=friend
secret=blah
port=5061
nat=yes
host=sphone.vopr.vonage.net
fromuser=VonageDID
fromdomain=sphone.vopr.vonage.net
dtmfmode=rfc2833
auth=md5

Any help would be appreciated Thanks Dean!

Nitesh



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dean collins
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 1:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial
Discussion
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage --- Asterisk Working Config!

Hi Nitesh, check out my config that I have for the Faktortel config in
the [EMAIL PROTECTED] sourceforge forum, you'll probably be able to work out
how to set it up from there.


Cheers,
Dean


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nitesh
Divecha
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:12 PM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage --- Asterisk Working Config!

Hello All,

I know this question has already been answered but for some reason I am
failing to receive inbound calls.

I got my [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.6 setup for inbound and outbound and I can make
successful outbound calls. My Asterisk is registered with Vonage
successfully also. 

The only problem I am facing is inbound calls. I enabled the sip debug
and
I can see inbound calls coming in but then asterisk destroys it for some
unknown reason. 

Does anyone have a working config for inbound call?

Thanks Jay for all your help

Nitesh


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage --- Asterisk Working Config!

2005-02-23 Thread dean collins
Nitesh do you have the register trunk portion set up as well?

For faktortel is was 

xxusernamexx:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Divecha
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:05 PM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage --- Asterisk Working Config!

Hey Dean,

I followed your instructions and moved forward abit... Before it used to
say
SIP 2.0 404 Not Found. But now with your settings I am getting SIP/2.0
407
Proxy Authentication Required.

And yea for some unknown reason the TRUNK name and USER CONTEXT has to
be
same don't know why... 

But still no success for inbound calls... 

This is my sip.conf

[vonage]
username=VonageDID
type=friend
secret=blah
port=5061
nat=yes
insecure=very
host=sphone.vopr.vonage.net
fromuser=VonageDID
fromdomain=sphone.vopr.vonage.net
dtmfmode=inband
context=from-pstn
canreinvite=no
auth=md5

[vonage-out]
username=VonageDID
type=friend
secret=blah
port=5061
nat=yes
host=sphone.vopr.vonage.net
fromuser=VonageDID
fromdomain=sphone.vopr.vonage.net
dtmfmode=rfc2833
auth=md5

Any help would be appreciated Thanks Dean!

Nitesh



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Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage --- Asterisk Working Config!

Hi Nitesh, check out my config that I have for the Faktortel config in
the [EMAIL PROTECTED] sourceforge forum, you'll probably be able to work out
how to set it up from there.


Cheers,
Dean


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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage --- Asterisk Working Config!

Hello All,

I know this question has already been answered but for some reason I am
failing to receive inbound calls.

I got my [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.6 setup for inbound and outbound and I can make
successful outbound calls. My Asterisk is registered with Vonage
successfully also. 

The only problem I am facing is inbound calls. I enabled the sip debug
and
I can see inbound calls coming in but then asterisk destroys it for some
unknown reason. 

Does anyone have a working config for inbound call?

Thanks Jay for all your help

Nitesh


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] VONAGE ---- ASTERISK SIP TERMINATION?????

2005-02-19 Thread Jay Milk
That's the extension incoming calls will ring to --

If you use the example below, and sip calls come into the incoming
context, it would go to 99612 instead of s extension.  This is great
if you have multiple DIDs and want to handle them differently.

 -Original Message-
 From: Nitesh Divecha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 4:44 PM
 To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] VONAGE  ASTERISK SIP 
 TERMINATION?
 
 
 Thanks Jay,
 
 For the Vonage information on how to make it work!
 
 Just a quick question, what is the last number (99612) you 
 specified in the register string and beginning of sip parameter. 
 
 register = 16125551212:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:5061/99612
 
 [sip99612]
 
 Thanks,
 
 Nitesh
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay Milk
 Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:56 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - 
 Non-Commercial Discussion'
 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] VONAGE  ASTERISK SIP 
 TERMINATION?
 
 Yes, it's doable, had this running for several months here.  
 However, you'll need to get a softphone for $10/month from 
 them, and they'll provide the sip-credentials on their 
 website.  It's a lousy solution if you really just want one 
 number, because then you'll have to pay $15/month for their 
 basic hardline service, plus an extra $10 for the softline. 
  It may make sense if you need several numbers in rate 
 centers where the usual suspects don't have numbers -- as it 
 did for me.  Once a less expensive provider popped up, I 
 traded the $25 Vonage mess for a $5 unlimited DID.
 
http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2004-June/052678.html

This still works, just add insecure=very

-Original Message-
From: Lucas Wrenn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:25 AM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] VONAGE  ASTERISK SIP TERMINATION?


Has anyone out there successfully set up their * box to terminate their
VONAGE calls? 
 
I (and I am sure lots of others) would love to hear how you did it.
 
I'd like to be able to get rid of the extra hardware I have hanging
around here and use the ASTERISK machine to handle the SIP termination
instead of needing to have a Linksys modem (w/phone) and an additional
X100P card.
 
Thanks.
Wishing for a solution.
([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage, broadvoice et al

2005-02-18 Thread Pedro
Vonage, to my knowledge, does not let you connect your own SIP device
to their service.  They provide their own IAD.

As for Broadvoice, I know people that have successfully deployed
asterisk with many people sharing the same account.

- Pedro


On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:54:38 +0800, el Flynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm just wondering about these VoIP services -- do you have to sign up one
 account -per- client that will be using the service? I've got multiple
 extensions behind my Asterisk box, and I want to be able to allow all my staff
 to place calls via the provider.
 
 So if I sign up for one account, will multiple users behind my Asterisk box be
 able to make calls, using that same account, at the same time? Or do these
 providers typically only allow one call to be in place at any point in time?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Flynn
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage, broadvoice et al {Scanned}

2005-02-18 Thread David Shaw
I have two home accounts with Vonage and I allow all the family to use
Vonage with there extensions.

David


On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 08:39 -0500, Pedro wrote:
 Vonage, to my knowledge, does not let you connect your own SIP device
 to their service.  They provide their own IAD.
 
 As for Broadvoice, I know people that have successfully deployed
 asterisk with many people sharing the same account.
 
 - Pedro
 
 
 On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:54:38 +0800, el Flynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  I'm just wondering about these VoIP services -- do you have to sign up one
  account -per- client that will be using the service? I've got multiple
  extensions behind my Asterisk box, and I want to be able to allow all my 
  staff
  to place calls via the provider.
  
  So if I sign up for one account, will multiple users behind my Asterisk box 
  be
  able to make calls, using that same account, at the same time? Or do these
  providers typically only allow one call to be in place at any point in time?
  
  Thanks in advance.
  
  Flynn
  
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage, broadvoice et al {Scanned}

2005-02-18 Thread Paul
With unlimited calling plans you need to read the terms of service. 
Sharing the account within a household or business usually fits in with 
that. Reselling services in any way is usually prohibited.

Some providers with unlimited plans will allow you to set the outbound 
caller ID to any number on the account. In cases where they only put 
unlimited plans on an ATA, you can still connect that to * with an fxo 
card. Most of the providers have various hunt and multi=ring options 
that you can configure via their web interface.

One thing I have run into with 2 providers is their current inability to 
have multiple SIP/IAX logins within the same account. If I might want to 
someday have the California DID's land on a server at the California 
office, I have to create a new account when I order them. Otherwise, all 
DID's go to the last server that registered with the provider. It's a 
nuisance because I have to do the entire new account creation process 
with the provider for each DID and then wind up with different web 
interface logins for each.

David Shaw wrote:
I have two home accounts with Vonage and I allow all the family to use
Vonage with there extensions.
David
On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 08:39 -0500, Pedro wrote:
 

Vonage, to my knowledge, does not let you connect your own SIP device
to their service.  They provide their own IAD.
As for Broadvoice, I know people that have successfully deployed
asterisk with many people sharing the same account.
- Pedro
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:54:38 +0800, el Flynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

Hi all,
I'm just wondering about these VoIP services -- do you have to sign up one
account -per- client that will be using the service? I've got multiple
extensions behind my Asterisk box, and I want to be able to allow all my staff
to place calls via the provider.
So if I sign up for one account, will multiple users behind my Asterisk box be
able to make calls, using that same account, at the same time? Or do these
providers typically only allow one call to be in place at any point in time?
Thanks in advance.
Flynn
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage, broadvoice et al {Scanned}

2005-02-18 Thread Randy Johnson
Hello!
When you say sharing the account do you mean multiple simultaneous 
outgoing calls or just whoever picks up the phone and get's a dialtone 
can make the call?

-Randy
Paul wrote:
With unlimited calling plans you need to read the terms of service. 
Sharing the account within a household or business usually fits in 
with that. Reselling services in any way is usually prohibited.

Some providers with unlimited plans will allow you to set the outbound 
caller ID to any number on the account. In cases where they only put 
unlimited plans on an ATA, you can still connect that to * with an fxo 
card. Most of the providers have various hunt and multi=ring options 
that you can configure via their web interface.

One thing I have run into with 2 providers is their current inability 
to have multiple SIP/IAX logins within the same account. If I might 
want to someday have the California DID's land on a server at the 
California office, I have to create a new account when I order them. 
Otherwise, all DID's go to the last server that registered with the 
provider. It's a nuisance because I have to do the entire new account 
creation process with the provider for each DID and then wind up with 
different web interface logins for each.

David Shaw wrote:
I have two home accounts with Vonage and I allow all the family to use
Vonage with there extensions.
David
On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 08:39 -0500, Pedro wrote:
 

Vonage, to my knowledge, does not let you connect your own SIP device
to their service.  They provide their own IAD.
As for Broadvoice, I know people that have successfully deployed
asterisk with many people sharing the same account.
- Pedro
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:54:38 +0800, el Flynn 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Hi all,
I'm just wondering about these VoIP services -- do you have to sign 
up one
account -per- client that will be using the service? I've got multiple
extensions behind my Asterisk box, and I want to be able to allow 
all my staff
to place calls via the provider.

So if I sign up for one account, will multiple users behind my 
Asterisk box be
able to make calls, using that same account, at the same time? Or 
do these
providers typically only allow one call to be in place at any point 
in time?

Thanks in advance.
Flynn
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] VONAGE ---- ASTERISK SIP TERMINATION?????

2005-02-18 Thread Jay Milk
Yes, it's doable, had this running for several months here.  However,
you'll need to get a softphone for $10/month from them, and they'll
provide the sip-credentials on their website.  It's a lousy solution if
you really just want one number, because then you'll have to pay
$15/month for their basic hardline service, plus an extra $10 for the
softline.  It may make sense if you need several numbers in rate centers
where the usual suspects don't have numbers -- as it did for me.  Once a
less expensive provider popped up, I traded the $25 Vonage mess for a $5
unlimited DID.

http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2004-June/052678.html

This still works, just add insecure=very

-Original Message-
From: Lucas Wrenn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:25 AM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] VONAGE  ASTERISK SIP TERMINATION?


Has anyone out there successfully set up their * box to terminate their
VONAGE calls? 
 
I (and I am sure lots of others) would love to hear how you did it.
 
I'd like to be able to get rid of the extra hardware I have hanging
around here and use the ASTERISK machine to handle the SIP termination
instead of needing to have a Linksys modem (w/phone) and an additional
X100P card.
 
Thanks.
Wishing for a solution.
([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] VONAGE ---- ASTERISK SIP TERMINATION?????

2005-02-18 Thread Justin Richards
$5 DID?  with who if you don't mind me asking?


On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:56:12 -0600, Jay Milk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes, it's doable, had this running for several months here.  However,
 you'll need to get a softphone for $10/month from them, and they'll
 provide the sip-credentials on their website.  It's a lousy solution if
 you really just want one number, because then you'll have to pay
 $15/month for their basic hardline service, plus an extra $10 for the
 softline.  It may make sense if you need several numbers in rate centers
 where the usual suspects don't have numbers -- as it did for me.  Once a
 less expensive provider popped up, I traded the $25 Vonage mess for a $5
 unlimited DID.
 
 http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2004-June/052678.html
 
 This still works, just add insecure=very
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Lucas Wrenn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:25 AM
 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] VONAGE  ASTERISK SIP TERMINATION?
 
 Has anyone out there successfully set up their * box to terminate their
 VONAGE calls?
 
 I (and I am sure lots of others) would love to hear how you did it.
 
 I'd like to be able to get rid of the extra hardware I have hanging
 around here and use the ASTERISK machine to handle the SIP termination
 instead of needing to have a Linksys modem (w/phone) and an additional
 X100P card.
 
 Thanks.
 Wishing for a solution.
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] VONAGE ---- ASTERISK SIP TERMINATION?????

2005-02-18 Thread Nitesh Divecha
Thanks Jay,

For the Vonage information on how to make it work!

Just a quick question, what is the last number (99612) you specified in the
register string and beginning of sip parameter. 

register = 16125551212:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:5061/99612

[sip99612]

Thanks,

Nitesh


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay Milk
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial
Discussion'
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] VONAGE  ASTERISK SIP TERMINATION?

Yes, it's doable, had this running for several months here.  However,
you'll need to get a softphone for $10/month from them, and they'll
provide the sip-credentials on their website.  It's a lousy solution if
you really just want one number, because then you'll have to pay
$15/month for their basic hardline service, plus an extra $10 for the
softline.  It may make sense if you need several numbers in rate centers
where the usual suspects don't have numbers -- as it did for me.  Once a
less expensive provider popped up, I traded the $25 Vonage mess for a $5
unlimited DID.

http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2004-June/052678.html

This still works, just add insecure=very

-Original Message-
From: Lucas Wrenn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:25 AM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] VONAGE  ASTERISK SIP TERMINATION?


Has anyone out there successfully set up their * box to terminate their
VONAGE calls? 
 
I (and I am sure lots of others) would love to hear how you did it.
 
I'd like to be able to get rid of the extra hardware I have hanging
around here and use the ASTERISK machine to handle the SIP termination
instead of needing to have a Linksys modem (w/phone) and an additional
X100P card.
 
Thanks.
Wishing for a solution.
([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage WiFI Phone...

2005-01-05 Thread Simon Lockhart
On Tue Jan 04, 2005 at 01:27:21PM -0500, Philippe Daoust wrote:
 Anybody know anything about this F-1000 phone?
 100 hours of battery life, not bad at all...

http://www.utstar.com/Solutions/Document_Library/Handsets/docs/WiFi/F1000DataSheet.pdf

This quotes 48-80 hours standby, so you can probably reckon on it being towards
the lower end of that in reality.

Would be interested to hear the retail price of these (rather than the Vonage
bundled price)

Simon
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage WiFI Phone...

2005-01-05 Thread Colin Anderson

On Tue Jan 04, 2005 at 01:27:21PM -0500, Philippe Daoust wrote:
 Anybody know anything about this F-1000 phone?
 100 hours of battery life, not bad at all...

The peanut gallery chimed in on this yesterday:

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/04/1816228tid=193tid=215
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage integration... Hardware or Softphone typeacct.

2004-11-29 Thread Jay Milk
Vonage hard lines only run through an FXO port.  There's no feasible
way to get the SIP credentials in order to terminate directly into *.
You can terminate a soft line directly into asterisk, both for
incoming and outgoing calls -- for configuration examples, simply search
the list archives (use google and add site:lists.digium.com to your
search-term).

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 Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 12:27 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage integration... Hardware or 
 Softphone typeacct.
 
 
 Hi All,
 
 I've got an * PBX up with couple of stations and now I'd like 
 to integrate my Vonage service for outgoing PSTN calls. Is 
 this possible if I have an account with them that uses their 
 hardware box (ATA186) or do I need a 'softphone' account?
 
 thanks...
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage integration... Hardware or Softphone typeacct.

2004-11-29 Thread Angus Berry
I have a PC in my office with an FXO card (and Asterisk) but my main
server is in co-location. Is it possible to use my office PC, FXO and
asterisk to be a remote source for my Asterisk server?

On Mon, 2004-11-29 at 15:46, Jay Milk wrote:
 Vonage hard lines only run through an FXO port.  There's no feasible
 way to get the SIP credentials in order to terminate directly into *.
 You can terminate a soft line directly into asterisk, both for
 incoming and outgoing calls -- for configuration examples, simply search
 the list archives (use google and add site:lists.digium.com to your
 search-term).
 
  -Original Message-
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  Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 12:27 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage integration... Hardware or 
  Softphone typeacct.
  
  
  Hi All,
  
  I've got an * PBX up with couple of stations and now I'd like 
  to integrate my Vonage service for outgoing PSTN calls. Is 
  this possible if I have an account with them that uses their 
  hardware box (ATA186) or do I need a 'softphone' account?
  
  thanks...
  
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage Softphone--outbound calls work, inbound do not

2004-10-25 Thread adria vidal
El 25/10/2004, a las 15:53, Richard Branham escribió:
register = 
VonageNumber:VonagePassword@sphone.vopr.vonage.net:5061/
Maybe your incoming calls are going to a non existent number in your 
system  ???

try
register = 
VonageNumber:VonagePassword@sphone.vopr.vonage.net:5061/

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage Softphone--outbound calls work, inbound do not

2004-10-25 Thread Richard Branham
I added the following 2 lines to extensions.conf. Should these lines handle
the incoming calls to extension ?
exten = ,1,Answer
exten = ,2,Dial(SIP/)
I turned on sip debugging and can see the call in Asterisk. I also see some
lines like this:
From: sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED];tag=as21a15658
To: sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Would this mean that the call is coming in on the Vonage line and an attempt
is being made to bridge the call back to the Vonage line?
--
 El 25/10/2004, a las 15:53, Richard Branham escribió:

 gt; register =gt;
 gt;
lt;VonageNumbergt;:lt;VonagePasswordgt;@sphone.vopr.vonage.net:5061/

 Maybe your incoming calls are going to a non existent number in your
 system  ???

 try


 register =gt;

lt;VonageNumbergt;:lt;VonagePasswordgt;@sphone.vopr.vonage.net:5061/


 ·
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage Softphone--outbound calls work, inbound do not

2004-10-25 Thread Richard Branham
I changed the extension but inbound calls still aren't working properly.
I turned on sip debugging and noticed a 407 message (proxy 
authentication) when a call comes in on the Vonage line.  If I execute a 
sip show peers everything looks ok, and sip show registry shows the 
Vonage channel as registered. 

In the conf files I sent previously does it look like I'm specifying all 
of the necessary authentication info?


adria vidal wrote:
El 25/10/2004, a las 15:53, Richard Branham escribió:
register = 
VonageNumber:VonagePassword@sphone.vopr.vonage.net:5061/

Maybe your incoming calls are going to a non existent number in your 
system  ???

try
register = 
VonageNumber:VonagePassword@sphone.vopr.vonage.net:5061/

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage with Nat - Working

2004-10-19 Thread Jay Milk
I've had this working for months -- there's no real problem with it,
unless you misconfigured your firewall.  On the asterisk-side, nat=yes
is all you need to know.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jared Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 1:19 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage with Nat - Working
 
 
 After much research and trial and error I've gotten a vonage 
 softphone 
 account working through a NAT firewall...  I'll be updating the wiki 
 with this info after I see what sort of feedback I get from 
 the list.  I 
 don't know that this is the only way to make it work.. but 
 this way does 
 work for me.
 
 I'll start with the NAT setup...it shouldn't matter.. but fyi I'm 
 using a linux firewall with iptables and the fwbuilder 
 package to create 
 the rules.
 
 The following UDP ports are allowed in.. and forwarded to 
 your internal 
 asterisk box.
 
 8000 - 8020
 5060 - 5061
 1 - 2
 
 
 in sip.conf
 
 [general]
 externip = your external address  (possible dns name too?)
 
 
 ; While not required... I found the following useragent 
 string from the 
 softphone they provide... 
 ; it does not seem to make a difference if you use it.
 
 ;useragent = X-PRO Vonage release 1102t
 
 ; example
 ; register = 
 1704555:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:5061/vonage-in
 
 register = your full softphone number including 1:case sensitive 
 password@sphone.vopr.vonage.net:5061/incoming call context
 
 
 ; Next.. the specific vonage entry in sip.conf
 
 [sphone.vopr.vonage.net]
 secret = your password
 username = full softphone number
 insecure = very
 disallow = all
 allow = ulaw
 port = 5061
 host = sphone.vopr.vonage.net
 nat = yes
 type = peer
 canreinvite = no
 dtmfmode = rfc2833
 fromuser = your softphone number
 context = vonage-in
 
 
 Then... in extensions.conf I have the following example for incoming 
 calls
 
 [vonage-in]
 exten = 1NXXNXXX,1,-- some acton
 
 
 
 For outgoing calls I use something like this...
 
 Dial(SIP/[EMAIL PROTECTED])
 
 
 I use macros in my extensions file... but that's the basic idea...   
 With these settings I'm able to make and receive calls using a vonage 
 softphone account from behind a NAT firewall.  I hope that is of some 
 use to others out there...
 
 Jared
 
 
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage with Nat - Working

2004-10-19 Thread Ferguson, Michael
Jared,
Congrats on your success. I am still battling with mine, achieving one
way success.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jared
Watkins
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 2:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage with Nat - Working


After much research and trial and error I've gotten a vonage softphone 
account working through a NAT firewall...  I'll be updating the wiki 
with this info after I see what sort of feedback I get from the list.  I

don't know that this is the only way to make it work.. but this way does

work for me.

I'll start with the NAT setup...it shouldn't matter.. but fyi I'm 
using a linux firewall with iptables and the fwbuilder package to create

the rules.

The following UDP ports are allowed in.. and forwarded to your internal 
asterisk box.

8000 - 8020
5060 - 5061
1 - 2


in sip.conf

[general]
externip = your external address  (possible dns name too?)


; While not required... I found the following useragent string from the 
softphone they provide... 
; it does not seem to make a difference if you use it.

;useragent = X-PRO Vonage release 1102t

; example
; register = 1704555:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:5061/vonage-in

register = your full softphone number including 1:case sensitive 
password@sphone.vopr.vonage.net:5061/incoming call context


; Next.. the specific vonage entry in sip.conf

[sphone.vopr.vonage.net]
secret = your password
username = full softphone number
insecure = very
disallow = all
allow = ulaw
port = 5061
host = sphone.vopr.vonage.net
nat = yes
type = peer
canreinvite = no
dtmfmode = rfc2833
fromuser = your softphone number
context = vonage-in


Then... in extensions.conf I have the following example for incoming 
calls

[vonage-in]
exten = 1NXXNXXX,1,-- some acton



For outgoing calls I use something like this...

Dial(SIP/[EMAIL PROTECTED])


I use macros in my extensions file... but that's the basic idea...   
With these settings I'm able to make and receive calls using a vonage 
softphone account from behind a NAT firewall.  I hope that is of some 
use to others out there...

Jared



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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage, PSTN, 911, and hardware question

2004-10-11 Thread Jay Milk
I don't think you want a latching relay, unless you know how to build
the support circuit -- a latching relay has two coils and requires a
short pulse of power on either coil to change state.  The advantage is
that it doesn't need any power to hold state, but of course the circuit
isn't straightforward anymore.

I used:
http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=searchitem=
RLY-625type=store

On mine and hooked it up to an internal 5V supply of the * box.  When
the box is off, one of my cordless phones gets the line for 911; when
the box is on, the cordless is an extension on *, and the PSTN line goes
into an X100P.

 -Original Message-
 From: Rajeev Sharma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 9:21 AM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage, PSTN, 911, and hardware question
 
 
 OK, first of all, thanks for all the great help everybody. 
 It's nice to see that * has such a nice 
 community!
 
 Anyway, that double-pole-double-throw relay looks like just 
 the right thing. If I'm understanding 
 right, the relay design that Henry Devito sent me is the 
 exact same thing as the Viking PF-6A. So, 
 has anyone had experience with these things? Are they easy to 
 build? (This is a home project, so 
 things don't have to be professional.) Any tips? Right now 
 I'm thinking of trying to build something 
 out of this $1.25 12VDC relay (I believe Henry said it had to 
 be 12V): 
 http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=50
 0item=RLY-87type=store

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage working with asterisk

2004-08-07 Thread Greg Blakely
 Not officially.  

 Several months ago, I talked with a 'rogue' tech support individual who
told me that all I needed to get my Cisco 7940 working as a soft phone
was to use port 5061 instead of port 5060.

 This translated well into asterisk, and I used it successfully for a
couple of months.

 The problem is that is has to be a SOFT PHONE account, and Vonage does
not sell JUST softphone accounts.  They have to be attached to an
existing account that uses their box.

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hank
 Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 12:46 AM
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 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage working with asterisk
 
 did vonage finally allow there service to work  with asterisk?
 when I was with them they wouldn't give out there server info.
 thanks
 hank
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage working with asterisk

2004-08-06 Thread Assaf Benharoosh
 
I still didn't get it to work.
When calling the number- it goes to voicemail. No indication on the CLI.
The 'sip show peers' shows: 
vonage/16464855  216.115.25.199   N  255.255.255.255  5061
Unmonitored

'sip show registry':
HostUsername   Refresh State

sphone.vopr.vonage.net:5061 16464855183 15 Registered


Help anyone?

Assaf Benharoosh

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atlast after working of 7 hours i got voange soft account working on
asterisk.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage working with asterisk

2004-08-06 Thread hank
did vonage finally allow there service to work  with asterisk?
when I was with them they wouldn't give out there server info.
thanks
hank
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 9:43 PM
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage working with asterisk


I still didn't get it to work.
When calling the number- it goes to voicemail. No indication on the CLI.
The 'sip show peers' shows: 
vonage/16464855  216.115.25.199   N  255.255.255.255  5061
Unmonitored

'sip show registry':
HostUsername   Refresh State
sphone.vopr.vonage.net:5061 16464855183 15 Registered
Help anyone?
Assaf Benharoosh
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atlast after working of 7 hours i got voange soft account working on
asterisk.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage working with asterisk

2004-08-06 Thread Jay Milk
Use sip debug to confirm that there is really nothing coming in.
Chances are, your incoming context isn't set up properly.

 -Original Message-
 From: Assaf Benharoosh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 11:43 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage working with asterisk
 
 
  
 I still didn't get it to work.
 When calling the number- it goes to voicemail. No indication 
 on the CLI. The 'sip show peers' shows: 
 vonage/16464855  216.115.25.199   N  255.255.255.255  5061
 Unmonitored
 
 'sip show registry':
 HostUsername   Refresh State
 
 sphone.vopr.vonage.net:5061 16464855183 15 Registered
 
 
 Help anyone?
 
 Assaf Benharoosh

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage catastrophic failure...

2004-08-02 Thread Sunrise Ltd
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage working with asterisk

2004-07-14 Thread Jay Milk
Didn't take me nearly that long :D -- view the list archive.

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 Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 5:33 PM
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 atlast after working of 7 hours i got voange soft account 
 working on asterisk.

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IS VONAGE LISTENING? RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and Asterisk integration

2004-07-01 Thread Joe Baptista

On Tue, 29 Jun 2004, Jay Milk wrote:

 Like I said, they just seem to be lazy and/or badly organized.  If they
 can do LNP, why can't they change a hardline into a softphone, break
 one number out onto a different ATA, etc?  I basically laid it out for
 them, saying If you can't move my 2nd line from this ATA to a new ATA,
 then I'll need to cancel that line... I no longer have that line.  Not
 being able to something this simple cost them over $500/year from me...
 I wonder how many other Vonage users will drop them because of such
 things.

We were considering Vonage - but if this is the case - we have no
interest.

Is vinage listening?

regards
joe


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  Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 11:01 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and Asterisk integration
 
 
  Jay Milk wrote:
 
  I do.  I decided not to bother with Vonage's sub-par and unmotivated
  customer service(*) and plugged my ATA186 into an FXO port.
 
  I never worked with vonage, is there tech support that bad?
 
  --
  Regards,
 
 
  Steve Kalcevich,

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and Asterisk integration

2004-06-29 Thread Jay Milk
I do.  I decided not to bother with Vonage's sub-par and unmotivated
customer service(*) and plugged my ATA186 into an FXO port.

(*) Examples: Had three lines on two ATAs.  Asked if I can moved one of
the lines off to a third (new) ATA -- they couldn't do it.  Asked if I
can move an existing number to a Softphone line.  Nope, couldn't do
it.  Can I make an existing number a virtual number?  Nope, can't do.
Apparently, they can utilize LNP to move numbers from you CLEC to
themselves, but they can't move numbers around inside Vonage.  Ba!  It
cost them two lines and about $45/month in services.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 12:51 PM
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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and Asterisk integration


All,
 
I have been thru the archives and all the relevant URL's sent to me. I
have sent e-mail to those who have gone before me and are attempting to
accomplish the same goal - no one has it working?. Doesn't anyone have a
WORKING asterisk pbx that hooks into vonage?
 
Thanks,
 
Jerry Roy
562-305-9545

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and Asterisk integration

2004-06-29 Thread Steve Kalcevich
Jay Milk wrote:
I do.  I decided not to bother with Vonage's sub-par and unmotivated
customer service(*) and plugged my ATA186 into an FXO port.
 

I never worked with vonage, is there tech support that bad?
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and Asterisk integration

2004-06-29 Thread Doug Harris
Vonage does not allow any other device other than their own to be hooked up
to their system, period. There are whole bunch of service providers who
allow you to hook-up your own device. So why split hairs, use someone else
other than Vonage. Their is nothing extraordinary about Vonage, except they
have some advertising dollars.

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jay Milk
 Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 8:54 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and Asterisk integration


 I do.  I decided not to bother with Vonage's sub-par and unmotivated
 customer service(*) and plugged my ATA186 into an FXO port.

 (*) Examples: Had three lines on two ATAs.  Asked if I can moved one of
 the lines off to a third (new) ATA -- they couldn't do it.  Asked if I
 can move an existing number to a Softphone line.  Nope, couldn't do
 it.  Can I make an existing number a virtual number?  Nope, can't do.
 Apparently, they can utilize LNP to move numbers from you CLEC to
 themselves, but they can't move numbers around inside Vonage.  Ba!  It
 cost them two lines and about $45/month in services.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jerry Roy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 12:51 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and Asterisk integration


 All,

 I have been thru the archives and all the relevant URL's sent to me. I
 have sent e-mail to those who have gone before me and are attempting to
 accomplish the same goal - no one has it working?. Doesn't anyone have a
 WORKING asterisk pbx that hooks into vonage?

 Thanks,

 Jerry Roy
 562-305-9545




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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and Asterisk integration

2004-06-29 Thread Jay Milk
Like I said, they just seem to be lazy and/or badly organized.  If they
can do LNP, why can't they change a hardline into a softphone, break
one number out onto a different ATA, etc?  I basically laid it out for
them, saying If you can't move my 2nd line from this ATA to a new ATA,
then I'll need to cancel that line... I no longer have that line.  Not
being able to something this simple cost them over $500/year from me...
I wonder how many other Vonage users will drop them because of such
things.

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 From: Steve Kalcevich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 11:01 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Vonage and Asterisk integration
 
 
 Jay Milk wrote:
 
 I do.  I decided not to bother with Vonage's sub-par and unmotivated 
 customer service(*) and plugged my ATA186 into an FXO port.
 
 I never worked with vonage, is there tech support that bad?
 
 -- 
 Regards, 
 
 
 Steve Kalcevich, 

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