Re: [asterisk-users] FAX Detection.
On 2/24/16 12:10 PM, Aziz TestAccount wrote: Hi All, I'm looking for a PSTN Card that I can use with my Asterisk Server to achieve the following goal : 1. Detect FAX signal and route it to a specific extension. 2. Detect an incoming call from the same PSTN line and route it to IVR. Do openvox FXO/FXS cards support this feature ? Is there any other brand that can be used with Asterisk and that is supporting this ? Thanks in advance. Fax detection is more of an Asterisk feature than the FXO card (although some cards have hardware detection). All DAHDI/Asterisk compatible cards should be able to detect incoming faxes (if enabled via their chan_dahdi.conf configuration). I have personally tested Digium, Sangoma, Openvox and Rhino cards and they can all detect incoming faxes and send them to the fax extension. -- Telecomunicaciones Abiertas de México S.A. de C.V. Carlos Chávez +52 (55)9116-91161 -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] FAX Detection.
Perhaps use T38 instead? Would make your life a lot easier. (And you can use a T38modem software). -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] FAX Detection.
Hi I have used sangoma cards, but I know that openvox, is shipper than Sangoma. On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Aziz TestAccountwrote: > Hi All, > > I'm looking for a PSTN Card that I can use with my Asterisk Server to > achieve the following goal : > > 1. Detect FAX signal and route it to a specific extension. > 2. Detect an incoming call from the same PSTN line and route it to IVR. > > Do openvox FXO/FXS cards support this feature ? Is there any other brand > that can be used with Asterisk and that is supporting this ? > > Thanks in advance. > > > > -- > _ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: >http://www.asterisk.org/hello > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] FAX detection in chan_dahdi 1.8.15
2012/8/31 Jeff LaCoursiere j...@sunfone.com -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Jeff LaCoursiere Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 3:24 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] FAX detection in chan_dahdi 1.8.15 Hi, I recently replaced a site that was using 1.4.[mumble] with hylafax/iaxmodem. They have an RBS T1 and were using about half of their 50 DID numbers for fax to email. This all broke with the new system :( The original chan_dahdi.conf had no mention of faxdetect, so I assume it was operating with whatever is the default. Off? The new box originally had faxdetect=no, and I found that all my test faxes failed with negotiation errors. When I finally tried faxdetect=incoming test faxes from another machine running hylafax went through fine, and I thought I was done. The following week the customer reported that inbound faxes weren't working. When I looked at the log, I saw lots of these: chan_dahdi.c: -- Redirecting DAHDI/24-1 to fax extension Which in my FreePBX setup eventually goes to a no service message and hangs up. I've never defined a fax extension and don't really know what that is about. Turns out that any fax machine that calls ends up following this path. If my other hylafax server calls, it follows the normal path and gets answered by my pool of iaxmodems. I don't really understand the difference between the two types of calls, first of all. So it seems from this experience and a recent thread on -users that enabling faxdetection in chan_dahdi sets up some additional buffering that at least in my case, in 1.8, seems to be required (without it all inbound faxes fail from my hylafax server with negotiation problems). Unfortunately for me, this also seems to bypass normal DID handling and sends calls to an undefined fax extension. Can anyone shed some light? Thanks, j On Tue, 2012-08-28 at 15:28 -0500, Danny Nicholas wrote: IIRC correctly this is sort of like the s extension; you set up your fax handler in [default,fax,1]. Not sure how that is done in FreePBX. I've managed to hack a fix for this... in chan_dahdi.c I found two places where an async goto happens right after the message Redirecting to fax extension. I simply commented it out in both places. While looking a the source I noticed that an attempt is made to create a new channel variable FAXEXTEN with a comment save the DID number before sending to the fax extension. I created a fax context in extensions.conf and tried to use ${FAXEXTEN} to properly route my inbound fax to email calls, but it turns out that it is just set to s, which isn't useful at all. I spent some time trying to figure out where in the channel structure the actual DID information exists, as properly setting the FAXEXTEN variable is arguably the right fix for my problem. But I'm just not familiar enough with the internals :( I'm surprised others haven't had this issue... Anyway commenting out the redirection did the trick for me. Cheers, j Which Freepbx version are you using ? Have you installed Freepbx's Fax Configuration module ? Are you trying to attach fax-to-email service to incoming DIDs or to SIP endpoints ? -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] FAX detection in chan_dahdi 1.8.15
On 09/13/2012 03:20 AM, Olivier wrote: 2012/8/31 Jeff LaCoursiere j...@sunfone.com mailto:j...@sunfone.com -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Jeff LaCoursiere Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 3:24 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com mailto:asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] FAX detection in chan_dahdi 1.8.15 Hi, I recently replaced a site that was using 1.4.[mumble] with hylafax/iaxmodem. They have an RBS T1 and were using about half of their 50 DID numbers for fax to email. This all broke with the new system :( The original chan_dahdi.conf had no mention of faxdetect, so I assume it was operating with whatever is the default. Off? The new box originally had faxdetect=no, and I found that all my test faxes failed with negotiation errors. When I finally tried faxdetect=incoming test faxes from another machine running hylafax went through fine, and I thought I was done. The following week the customer reported that inbound faxes weren't working. When I looked at the log, I saw lots of these: chan_dahdi.c: -- Redirecting DAHDI/24-1 to fax extension Which in my FreePBX setup eventually goes to a no service message and hangs up. I've never defined a fax extension and don't really know what that is about. Turns out that any fax machine that calls ends up following this path. If my other hylafax server calls, it follows the normal path and gets answered by my pool of iaxmodems. I don't really understand the difference between the two types of calls, first of all. So it seems from this experience and a recent thread on -users that enabling faxdetection in chan_dahdi sets up some additional buffering that at least in my case, in 1.8, seems to be required (without it all inbound faxes fail from my hylafax server with negotiation problems). Unfortunately for me, this also seems to bypass normal DID handling and sends calls to an undefined fax extension. Can anyone shed some light? Thanks, j On Tue, 2012-08-28 at 15:28 -0500, Danny Nicholas wrote: IIRC correctly this is sort of like the s extension; you set up your fax handler in [default,fax,1]. Not sure how that is done in FreePBX. I've managed to hack a fix for this... in chan_dahdi.c I found two places where an async goto happens right after the message Redirecting to fax extension. I simply commented it out in both places. While looking a the source I noticed that an attempt is made to create a new channel variable FAXEXTEN with a comment save the DID number before sending to the fax extension. I created a fax context in extensions.conf and tried to use ${FAXEXTEN} to properly route my inbound fax to email calls, but it turns out that it is just set to s, which isn't useful at all. I spent some time trying to figure out where in the channel structure the actual DID information exists, as properly setting the FAXEXTEN variable is arguably the right fix for my problem. But I'm just not familiar enough with the internals :( I'm surprised others haven't had this issue... Anyway commenting out the redirection did the trick for me. Cheers, j Which Freepbx version are you using ? Have you installed Freepbx's Fax Configuration module ? Are you trying to attach fax-to-email service to incoming DIDs or to SIP endpoints ? FreePBX 2.10 Originally, just because I usually do an install and let FreePBX load all available modules, it did load that module. Original advice was to remove that module, which had no effect on my problem. It is removed now anyway. The intention is individual DIDs go to specific fax email addresses. I saw your explanation for what you are trying to accomplish, and it sounds interesting. Curious to see if you get it working. Cheers, j -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] FAX detection in chan_dahdi 1.8.15
-Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Jeff LaCoursiere Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 3:24 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] FAX detection in chan_dahdi 1.8.15 Hi, I recently replaced a site that was using 1.4.[mumble] with hylafax/iaxmodem. They have an RBS T1 and were using about half of their 50 DID numbers for fax to email. This all broke with the new system :( The original chan_dahdi.conf had no mention of faxdetect, so I assume it was operating with whatever is the default. Off? The new box originally had faxdetect=no, and I found that all my test faxes failed with negotiation errors. When I finally tried faxdetect=incoming test faxes from another machine running hylafax went through fine, and I thought I was done. The following week the customer reported that inbound faxes weren't working. When I looked at the log, I saw lots of these: chan_dahdi.c: -- Redirecting DAHDI/24-1 to fax extension Which in my FreePBX setup eventually goes to a no service message and hangs up. I've never defined a fax extension and don't really know what that is about. Turns out that any fax machine that calls ends up following this path. If my other hylafax server calls, it follows the normal path and gets answered by my pool of iaxmodems. I don't really understand the difference between the two types of calls, first of all. So it seems from this experience and a recent thread on -users that enabling faxdetection in chan_dahdi sets up some additional buffering that at least in my case, in 1.8, seems to be required (without it all inbound faxes fail from my hylafax server with negotiation problems). Unfortunately for me, this also seems to bypass normal DID handling and sends calls to an undefined fax extension. Can anyone shed some light? Thanks, j On Tue, 2012-08-28 at 15:28 -0500, Danny Nicholas wrote: IIRC correctly this is sort of like the s extension; you set up your fax handler in [default,fax,1]. Not sure how that is done in FreePBX. I've managed to hack a fix for this... in chan_dahdi.c I found two places where an async goto happens right after the message Redirecting to fax extension. I simply commented it out in both places. While looking a the source I noticed that an attempt is made to create a new channel variable FAXEXTEN with a comment save the DID number before sending to the fax extension. I created a fax context in extensions.conf and tried to use ${FAXEXTEN} to properly route my inbound fax to email calls, but it turns out that it is just set to s, which isn't useful at all. I spent some time trying to figure out where in the channel structure the actual DID information exists, as properly setting the FAXEXTEN variable is arguably the right fix for my problem. But I'm just not familiar enough with the internals :( I'm surprised others haven't had this issue... Anyway commenting out the redirection did the trick for me. Cheers, j -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] FAX detection in chan_dahdi 1.8.15
IIRC correctly this is sort of like the s extension; you set up your fax handler in [default,fax,1]. Not sure how that is done in FreePBX. -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Jeff LaCoursiere Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 3:24 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] FAX detection in chan_dahdi 1.8.15 Hi, I recently replaced a site that was using 1.4.[mumble] with hylafax/iaxmodem. They have an RBS T1 and were using about half of their 50 DID numbers for fax to email. This all broke with the new system :( The original chan_dahdi.conf had no mention of faxdetect, so I assume it was operating with whatever is the default. Off? The new box originally had faxdetect=no, and I found that all my test faxes failed with negotiation errors. When I finally tried faxdetect=incoming test faxes from another machine running hylafax went through fine, and I thought I was done. The following week the customer reported that inbound faxes weren't working. When I looked at the log, I saw lots of these: chan_dahdi.c: -- Redirecting DAHDI/24-1 to fax extension Which in my FreePBX setup eventually goes to a no service message and hangs up. I've never defined a fax extension and don't really know what that is about. Turns out that any fax machine that calls ends up following this path. If my other hylafax server calls, it follows the normal path and gets answered by my pool of iaxmodems. I don't really understand the difference between the two types of calls, first of all. So it seems from this experience and a recent thread on -users that enabling faxdetection in chan_dahdi sets up some additional buffering that at least in my case, in 1.8, seems to be required (without it all inbound faxes fail from my hylafax server with negotiation problems). Unfortunately for me, this also seems to bypass normal DID handling and sends calls to an undefined fax extension. Can anyone shed some light? Thanks, j -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Detection on SIP
- Paul Scott p...@cpanel.net wrote: Yeah sounds like you wanna use NVFaxDetect it would allow you to add something like exten = fax,1,Swift(number has changed); to your inbound call part of your dialplan On Jan 14, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Juan C. Villa wrote: Could you use NVFaxDetect? On Thu, 2010-01-14 at 17:35 +, --[ UxBoD ]-- wrote: Hi, We have a issue where one of our clients is receiving a high volume of calls from automated fax machines and passing through their context which means all phones get rung. I am looking for a way to detect the fax tone, on answer, and route it to a extension/macro where a announcement would tell them the correct number to fax to. The inbound calls are across SIP so am not able to use DADHI. Would this scenario be perfect for Fax for Asterisk ? All help greatfully appreciated. The problem is that NVFaxDetect does not appear to work with Asterisk 1.6.X :( Looking for something that is actively supported. Thanks, Phil -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Detection on SIP
- --[ UxBoD ]-- ux...@splatnix.net wrote: - Paul Scott p...@cpanel.net wrote: Yeah sounds like you wanna use NVFaxDetect it would allow you to add something like exten = fax,1,Swift(number has changed); to your inbound call part of your dialplan On Jan 14, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Juan C. Villa wrote: Could you use NVFaxDetect? On Thu, 2010-01-14 at 17:35 +, --[ UxBoD ]-- wrote: Hi, We have a issue where one of our clients is receiving a high volume of calls from automated fax machines and passing through their context which means all phones get rung. I am looking for a way to detect the fax tone, on answer, and route it to a extension/macro where a announcement would tell them the correct number to fax to. The inbound calls are across SIP so am not able to use DADHI. Would this scenario be perfect for Fax for Asterisk ? All help greatfully appreciated. The problem is that NVFaxDetect does not appear to work with Asterisk 1.6.X :( Looking for something that is actively supported. Well perhaps I should have read the sip.conf ;) Okay so I am able to set faxdetect=yes and then I presume just create a extension in the target context: exten = fax,1,Play(sorry-wrong-fax-number) exten = fax,n,Hangup() -- Thanks, Phil -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Detection on SIP
I have NVFaxDetect working 100% with Asterisk 1.6. Check out this article in my blog on details of how I got it working: http://cloudsconnected.com/?p=57 Good luck! On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 11:28 +, --[ UxBoD ]-- wrote: - Paul Scott p...@cpanel.net wrote: Yeah sounds like you wanna use NVFaxDetect it would allow you to add something like exten = fax,1,Swift(number has changed); to your inbound call part of your dialplan On Jan 14, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Juan C. Villa wrote: Could you use NVFaxDetect? On Thu, 2010-01-14 at 17:35 +, --[ UxBoD ]-- wrote: Hi, We have a issue where one of our clients is receiving a high volume of calls from automated fax machines and passing through their context which means all phones get rung. I am looking for a way to detect the fax tone, on answer, and route it to a extension/macro where a announcement would tell them the correct number to fax to. The inbound calls are across SIP so am not able to use DADHI. Would this scenario be perfect for Fax for Asterisk ? All help greatfully appreciated. The problem is that NVFaxDetect does not appear to work with Asterisk 1.6.X :( Looking for something that is actively supported. Thanks, Phil -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Detection on SIP
2010/1/15 --[ UxBoD ]-- ux...@splatnix.net - --[ UxBoD ]-- ux...@splatnix.net wrote: - Paul Scott p...@cpanel.net wrote: Yeah sounds like you wanna use NVFaxDetect it would allow you to add something like exten = fax,1,Swift(number has changed); to your inbound call part of your dialplan On Jan 14, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Juan C. Villa wrote: Could you use NVFaxDetect? On Thu, 2010-01-14 at 17:35 +, --[ UxBoD ]-- wrote: Hi, We have a issue where one of our clients is receiving a high volume of calls from automated fax machines and passing through their context which means all phones get rung. I am looking for a way to detect the fax tone, on answer, and route it to a extension/macro where a announcement would tell them the correct number to fax to. The inbound calls are across SIP so am not able to use DADHI. Would this scenario be perfect for Fax for Asterisk ? All help greatfully appreciated. The problem is that NVFaxDetect does not appear to work with Asterisk 1.6.X :( Looking for something that is actively supported. Well perhaps I should have read the sip.conf ;) Okay so I am able to set faxdetect=yes and then I presume just create a extension in the target context: exten = fax,1,Play(sorry-wrong-fax-number) exten = fax,n,Hangup() What about the answering phone (the one that received the call that was later detected as a fax call) ? To my knowledge, when asterisk is jumping into fax priority, the answering phone would hear a busy tone. Is there a way to let this phone hear a nice prompt saying you're currently receiving a fax) ? -- Thanks, Phil -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Detection on SIP
Could you use NVFaxDetect? On Thu, 2010-01-14 at 17:35 +, --[ UxBoD ]-- wrote: Hi, We have a issue where one of our clients is receiving a high volume of calls from automated fax machines and passing through their context which means all phones get rung. I am looking for a way to detect the fax tone, on answer, and route it to a extension/macro where a announcement would tell them the correct number to fax to. The inbound calls are across SIP so am not able to use DADHI. Would this scenario be perfect for Fax for Asterisk ? All help greatfully appreciated. -- Thanks, Phil -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Detection on SIP
Yeah sounds like you wanna use NVFaxDetect it would allow you to add something like exten = fax,1,Swift(number has changed); to your inbound call part of your dialplan On Jan 14, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Juan C. Villa wrote: Could you use NVFaxDetect? On Thu, 2010-01-14 at 17:35 +, --[ UxBoD ]-- wrote: Hi, We have a issue where one of our clients is receiving a high volume of calls from automated fax machines and passing through their context which means all phones get rung. I am looking for a way to detect the fax tone, on answer, and route it to a extension/macro where a announcement would tell them the correct number to fax to. The inbound calls are across SIP so am not able to use DADHI. Would this scenario be perfect for Fax for Asterisk ? All help greatfully appreciated. -- Thanks, Phil -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Fax detection on SIP channel
Have a look for agx-ast-addons and spandsp. -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Robert McGilvray Sent: 06 March 2009 01:05 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] Fax detection on SIP channel Is there a built-in way of detecting fax tones, or a switch to T.38 on a SIP channel? I need to periodically check some efax servers for availability and figured the best way to ensure they are operational is to check for tones. I've looked into Nvdetect but the company seems to have gone out of business and I don't want to be stuck with a solution that won't make it through an upgrade of asterisk. My ITSP supports T.38 and should send a Re-Invite so is there a way to just set a channel variable when it sees this and use that as an indicator of success? I have a sangoma card in the machine but it doesn't have any T1/E1 connections, so unless I'm mistaken I can't use the fax detection in zaptel. Bob This email with all information contained herein or attached hereto may contain confidential and/or privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this email in error, please contact the sender and immediately delete this email in its entirety and any attachments thereto. (W1) ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] fax detection without answer
On zapata.conf: faxdetect=incoming The detected fax calls will be redirected to the 'fax' extension on the context set to the group of channels. Atenciosamente, Vinícius Fontes Núcleo de Tecnologias Convergentes Canall Tecnologia em Comunicações Passo Fundo - RS - Brasil +55 54 2104-7000 Convergent Technologies Core Canall Tecnologia em Comunicações Passo Fundo - RS - Brazil +55 54 2104-7000 - JD [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Generic question, Is there a way to detect a fax call without actually taking it as a fax call? In a non-universal manner? In other words, if fax tones are detected on the incoming call (on a Sangoma PRI card for example), I'd like to transfer that call back out of the PRI to a dedicated FAX system _if_ that DID number is one that has that service. It would almost have to be a system variable. GotoIf($[${FAXDETECT} = YES]? faxtransfer) Any suggestions in this regard? John ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] fax detection without answer
That us a bit like wanting to know what the person calling you wants to talk about without picking up the phone.. On 8 Sep 2008, at 17:42, JD wrote: Generic question, Is there a way to detect a fax call without actually taking it as a fax call? In a non-universal manner? In other words, if fax tones are detected on the incoming call (on a Sangoma PRI card for example), I'd like to transfer that call back out of the PRI to a dedicated FAX system _if_ that DID number is one that has that service. It would almost have to be a system variable. GotoIf($[${FAXDETECT} = YES]? faxtransfer) Any suggestions in this regard? John ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] fax detection without answer
No, but you can use a dedicated DID, but that will NOT detect the tone, it will simply ASSume that the caller is trying to send a fax. On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:42 PM, JD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Generic question, Is there a way to detect a fax call without actually taking it as a fax call? In a non-universal manner? In other words, if fax tones are detected on the incoming call (on a Sangoma PRI card for example), I'd like to transfer that call back out of the PRI to a dedicated FAX system _if_ that DID number is one that has that service. It would almost have to be a system variable. GotoIf($[${FAXDETECT} = YES]? faxtransfer) Any suggestions in this regard? John ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] fax detection without answer
I knew of this, but mostly ignored it since the zapata.conf method is a universal function. Either a channel (or channel group) does fax detection or it doesn't. I can't change it in the ongoing script. In other words, if a call is going to a DID that _shouldn't_ do faxing, it goes to the fax extension anyway. There is no means of suppressing the fax detection. Alternatively, if I have fax detection turned off, there is no means of activating it after the calls has been answered. And, as far as I can tell, once it jumps to the fax extension, there is no go back to where you were before the jump function. But considering it, I have speculatively created immediate contexts to branch to, such as: --- [incoming-PSTN-context] exten = 503555,1,Goto(FaxCapableDID,${EXTEN},1) exten = 503555,1Goto(PlainDID,${EXTEN},1) [FaxCapableDID] exten = 503555,1, Answer exten = 503555,n, blah blah exten = fax,1, ... dial the fax handler [PlainDID] exten = 503555,1, blah blah [next-context] --- Sadly, the documentation on 'faxdetect' is slim. Is this a 'feature' that fax detection is ignored if there is no fax extension in the current context? In other words, are there gotchas? (Does ignoring the fax cause problems?) Any feedback on faxing in general is invaluable to me. John Vinícius Fontes wrote: On zapata.conf: faxdetect=incoming The detected fax calls will be redirected to the 'fax' extension on the context set to the group of channels. Atenciosamente, Vinícius Fontes Núcleo de Tecnologias Convergentes Canall Tecnologia em Comunicações Passo Fundo - RS - Brasil +55 54 2104-7000 Convergent Technologies Core Canall Tecnologia em Comunicações Passo Fundo - RS - Brazil +55 54 2104-7000 - JD [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Generic question, Is there a way to detect a fax call without actually taking it as a fax call? In a non-universal manner? In other words, if fax tones are detected on the incoming call (on a Sangoma PRI card for example), I'd like to transfer that call back out of the PRI to a dedicated FAX system _if_ that DID number is one that has that service. It would almost have to be a system variable. GotoIf($[${FAXDETECT} = YES]? faxtransfer) Any suggestions in this regard? John ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] FAX detection not working
On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 08:56:56AM -0400, Joe Acquisto wrote: I am having a problem detecting incoming FAX. TMD22p (tdm400p 2 fxo, 2fxs) As I understand it, I must have faxdetect = incoming to enable detection of the fax tone. Then, I must have a [fax] context to pickup the line and send it to whatever extension the FAX device is on. In my case, I ask it to answer immediately and do a distinctive ring (r3) to alert that is its a FAX call so no one picks up the line. Fax detection detects a tone on the line. Hence it only owrks after the line has been answered. however, it seems the FAX tone is not being detected (I know it is being sent), as the normal ring tone is heard. I must be misunderstanding how this works. Or does not work. Can you please provide your relevant dialplan snippets and relevant parts of zapata.conf ? -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +972-50-7952406 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xorcom.com iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/tzafrir ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] FAX detection not working
This can be a partial never mind, I guess. I can see via the CLI that the call is being handled by some FAX related routines. Just not quite the solution I expected. joe a. On 9/29/2007 at 8:56 AM, Joe Acquisto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am having a problem detecting incoming FAX. TMD22p (tdm400p 2 fxo, 2fxs) As I understand it, I must have faxdetect = incoming to enable detection of the fax tone. Then, I must have a [fax] context to pickup the line and send it to whatever extension the FAX device is on. In my case, I ask it to answer immediately and do a distinctive ring (r3) to alert that is its a FAX call so no one picks up the line. however, it seems the FAX tone is not being detected (I know it is being sent), as the normal ring tone is heard. I must be misunderstanding how this works. Or does not work. joe a. ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] FAX detection not working
Joe Acquisto wrote: As I understand it, I must have faxdetect = incoming to enable detection of the fax tone. Then, I must have a [fax] context to pickup the line and send it to whatever extension the FAX device is on. It's a fax extension in the context where the call is at... not a fax context in the dialplan. Lee. ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] FAX detection not working
On 9/29/2007 at 3:27 PM, Lee Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe Acquisto wrote: As I understand it, I must have faxdetect = incoming to enable detection of the fax tone. Then, I must have a [fax] context to pickup the line and send it to whatever extension the FAX device is on. It's a fax extension in the context where the call is at... not a fax context in the dialplan. Lee. I don't follow. Sorry. Now might be a good time to post this, since Tzafrir asked, it looks very much like bits I have seen on the net. I did see what appeared to be the analog_fax part when checking at CLI. So, I would surmise it detected the FAX and is trying to deal with it, but the number derived via LDAPget is hosed? It just ends up hanging up and not dialing any extension. {begin snippet] [ext-fax] exten = s,1,Answer exten = s,2,Goto(in_fax|1) exten = in_fax,1,GotoIf($[${FAX_RX} = system]?2:analog_fax|1) exten = in_fax,2,Macro(faxreceive) exten = in_fax,3,system(tiff2ps -2eaz -w 8.5 -h 11 ${FAXFILE} | ps2pdf - ${FAXFILE}.pdf) exten = in_fax,4,system(mime-construct --to ${EMAILADDR} --subject Fax from ${CALLERID(num)} ${CALLERID(name)} --attachment ${CALLERID(num)}.pdf --type application/pdf --file ${FAXFILE}.pdf) exten = in_fax,5,system(rm ${FAXFILE} ${FAXFILE}.pdf) exten = in_fax,6,Hangup exten = analog_fax,1,GotoIf($[foo${FAX_RX} = foo]?3:2) exten = analog_fax,2,LDAPget(DIAL=DeviceDial/${FAX_RX}) exten = analog_fax,3,Dial(${DIAL}|20|d) exten = analog_fax,4,Hangup exten = out_fax,1,txfax(${TXFAX_NAME}|caller) exten = out_fax,2,Hangup exten = h,1,Hangup() [end snippet] joe a. ___ Sign up now for AstriCon 2007! September 25-28th. http://www.astricon.net/ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Fax detection
Gommidh Riadh wrote: Hello, Did someone have a solution for a line fax detection for outgoing call Err, if you start your extension definition with answer, then if it detects a fax signal it will try to redirect to the extension fax. For exemple I call number 0123456789 - if it is a fax then redirect to extension A - if it is a line then redirect to exention B whats ia want its somthing like AMD application that i use for the answering machine . http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+AMD search in the wiki give this application : http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/NVFaxDetect Did somene use it ? any feed back ? With my limited testing, it seemed to work quite well. (not tried it since moving to asterisk 1.4). It is only neccesary if you want to detect faxes on VoIP communications (without T.38). If you want your machine to accept faxes via this method, it may be more appropriate to use a SIP supplier that supports T.38 and look at using callweaver instead of asterisk. (asterisk branch that supports T.38 fax termination). Sorry for the English and thanks for your help There is nothing wrong with your english. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Fax detection
Gommidh Riadh wrote: For exemple I call number 0123456789 - if it is a fax then redirect to extension A - if it is a line then redirect to exention B whats ia want its somthing like AMD application that i use for the answering machine . http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/NVFaxDetect Did somene use it ? any feed back ? With my limited testing, it seemed to work quite well. (not tried it since moving to asterisk 1.4). It is only neccesary if you want to detect faxes on VoIP communications (without T.38). If you want your machine to accept faxes via this method, it may be more appropriate to use a SIP supplier that supports T.38 and look at using callweaver instead of asterisk. (asterisk branch that supports T.38 fax termination). Sorry for the English and thanks for your help There is nothing wrong with your english. thanks for your response Infortunatly the site http://www.newmantelecom.com/asterisk/faxdetect/ is unrechable for me , so i cant downlood the app and make my test But i m not sure you understand what i want to realy do i m developping a predetive call application for a call center i make the outgoing call with originate commande (API manager) : Action: Originate Channel: SIP/provider/0123456789 Context: foo Exten: 8000 CallerID: bla Variable: 0123456789 Async: true ActionID: xxx Priority: 1 When the called party pickup the line it redirect to the exten 8000 exten = 8000,1,AMD exten = 8000,2,Wait(1) exten = 8000,3,Answer() exten = 8000,4,GotoIf($[${AMDSTATUS} =MACHINE]?6) exten = 8000,5,Queue(${var1}|tT|||120) exten = 8000,6,System(php -q machine.php ${var1}) exten = 8000,7,Hangup So if the number 0123456789 is ansering machine then marke it and hungup if it is a human than redirect to the queue and the agent take the call did the nvfaxdetect do the same thing like AMD application ? i dont want recive a fax i want to know i the number a call is not a fax line because my agents will become Deaf persons with the sound of fax :). Thanks for your help ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] Fax detection
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gommidh Riadh Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 3:22 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Fax detection Gommidh Riadh wrote: For exemple I call number 0123456789 - if it is a fax then redirect to extension A - if it is a line then redirect to exention B whats ia want its somthing like AMD application that i use for the answering machine . http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/NVFaxDetect I've been curious about this as well. It's almost as if we need an version of app_amd that can test for all three conditions: 1 - human 2 - answering machine 3 - fax machine Has anyone heard of such a beast, or have you otherwise found a good workaround when needing to detect all three of the above conditions? -MC ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Fax detection (Sangoma)
David Ruggles wrote: I have an FXS port and an FXO port on my Sangoma, can I detect inbound Fax calls on my FXO port and route them automatically to the FXS port (connected to a fax machine) while allowing normal voices to ring the main extension like normal? Fax detection is spotty at best. Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Fax detection (Sangoma)
On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, David Ruggles wrote: I have an FXS port and an FXO port on my Sangoma, can I detect inbound Fax calls on my FXO port and route them automatically to the FXS port (connected to a fax machine) while allowing normal voices to ring the main extension like normal? Yes. However, asterisk has to answer the call and listen in to see if it hears the remote fax machine squawking down at it first. This means that the caller will be left in silence for a second or 3. Then you'll need to send a message to the caller, or give them a ringing tone. I looked through archive but didn't see this exact question addressed. Look harder, I've posted this before ;-) Or try the WiKi, the book, or elsewhere You need to tell asterisk to listen to faxes - you do this in zapata.conf - with the line: faxdetect=incoming What will happen then is that asterisk will listen in for the fax tone when it answers the call, so you need to Answer() the call, and (I've found) then wait for 3 seconds. exten = incoming,1,Answer() exten = incoming,n,Wait(3) If the call is a fax machine, asterisk will automagically then goto an extension called fax in the current context, so I guess (I've never done this - I suck it in email it) you could then: exten = fax,1,Dial(Zap/4) exten = fax,1,Hangup() where Zap/4 was the fax machine which should be set to answer immediately, nd hopefully the call will then get bridged and life will be sweet. Back up in the answering code, after the Wait(3) you then need to do something else - ring an internal phone, use 'auto attendant or something else, but let the caller know that something is happening. Gordon ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Fax detection (Sangoma)
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 15:07 -0400, David Ruggles wrote: I have an FXS port and an FXO port on my Sangoma, can I detect inbound Fax calls on my FXO port and route them automatically to the FXS port (connected to a fax machine) while allowing normal voices to ring the main extension like normal? I looked through archive but didn't see this exact question addressed. You did not look hard enough because this has been addressed many times. Use the fax extension and make sure your /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf has faxdetect=both on the fxo port configuration. -- Telecomunicaciones Abiertas de Mexico S.A. de C.V. Carlos Chávez Prats Director de Tecnología +52-55-91169161 ext 2001 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] Fax detection (Sangoma)
Thanks for answering my question. I apologize for not looking harder, I'll look harder next time before asking the list. Thanks, David Ruggles CCNA MCSE (NT) CNA A+ Network EngineerSafe Data, Inc. (910) 285-7200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Fax detection ...
Hi,If I may follow on this thread, would you try to :1. offer users a single extension for both voice and fax calls with (automatic or human handled) fax detection2. or would you build a centralised fax server gathering fax extensions with which a staff member would read fax headers to forward them to its destinee. A single extension could be very convenient in large offices where fax machines are shared among several people (on average, every year, 40% of staff members are moving from one location to another) but adding a short delay on every call to detect fax machines could be too expensive from user's point of view. Maybe, just letting faxes coming in and teaching users to forward them themselves to their own email would be enough as you could dedicate phone keys to that.What do you think ?Cheers ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Fax detection ...
On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 10:43:44AM +0800, Steve Underwood wrote: Jay R. Ashworth wrote: On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 02:58:37PM -0700, Lee Howard wrote: Well, fax detection isn't entirely reliable anyway. Even if you assume that your fax detection feature and operation is flawless in properly detecting fax tones (and that most likely would be a specious assumption), not all calling fax machines send fax tones. So, y'know, that assertion gets made a lot. What's the turn rate of fax machines in the market? 3 years? 5? CNG tones are *well* over 10 years old, no? What relevance does that have to CNG? It was a feature of the original spec 30 years ago. Well, perhaps I wasn't paying attention, but I thought that CNG tones *had as their purpose* making receive FAX detection trivial. That would tend to make the question on-point, would it not? What percentage of fax calls are sent without CNG tones these days? Quite a lot. A large number of FAX machines have CNG turned off. On many machines, if select features like sharing a line between FAX and answering machine CNG, CED and various other useful behaviour might be disabled. My personal experience is that I've never seen a consumer-grade fax machine with send-CNG turned off, and I don't *think* I've ever seen one on which there was a knob *to* turn it off; I would be less sure about fax modems -- those may have a knob, but I would expect it to default on. Could you expand on what behaviour you think CNG breaks? Cause I'm not modeling it, mentally... Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth[EMAIL PROTECTED] Designer Baylink RFC 2100 Ashworth AssociatesThe Things I Think'87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 That's women for you; you divorce them, and 10 years later, they stop having sex with you. -- Jennifer Crusie; _Fast_Women_ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Fax detection ...
Jay R. Ashworth wrote: My personal experience is that I've never seen a consumer-grade fax machine with send-CNG turned off, and I don't *think* I've ever seen one on which there was a knob *to* turn it off; I would be less sure about fax modems -- those may have a knob, but I would expect it to default on. On fax modems the way to silent-dial (and I believe that this was a norm from early-on) to to add an @ at the end of the dialstring: ATDT5551212@. I would be very surprised to find any modern fax modem that does not have this capability. I don't know of any specific fax machine that has such a knob to turn CNG off. But my contention wasn't that it was consumer-grade fax machines that were the main culprit here, but rather fax servers (PCs with fax modems in them). And depending on what industry you are sampling, those may actually consitute a fair amount of the caller pool. (For example, some industry software - like insurance agent application software - will have built-in fax features that will use the PC's fax modem - and the application vendor may insist on that feature being used.) I cannot cite specific software that does it, but I suspect that most fax application developers are aware of the ability to silent-dial, and the reasons why it may be employed. As I've said before, one reason, as an example, is to make the modem capable of hearing ringback - so that it knows if the call has been answered or not (which itself is a unreliable endeavor). Another reason is to avoid annoying the receiver moreso on a call to a wrong-number. It's off the topic of silent dialing but on the topic of this thread... Brother fax machine manuals state that it is possible for them to erroniously detect certain voices or music as CNG tones, and if that becomes a problem to disable fax detection. And that's basically another point along the lines that say that fax detection is not completely reliable. Lee. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Fax detection ...
Thanks Marco! I found NVFaxDetect before getting around to your post. It works a treat! Good call! no pun intended Marco Mouta [EMAIL PROTECTED] l.com To Sent by: Asterisk Users Mailing List - asterisk-users-bo Non-Commercial Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] asterisk-users@lists.digium.com m.com cc Subject 01/10/2006 23:09 Re: [asterisk-users] Fax detection ... Please respond to Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] ists.digium.com Why don't you look for application NVfaxDetect ? are you using Digium boards? I've been using it sucessfully for fax reception! Look for it on voip wiki. On 10/1/06, Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 02:58:37PM -0700, Lee Howard wrote: Well, fax detection isn't entirely reliable anyway. Even if you assume that your fax detection feature and operation is flawless in properly detecting fax tones (and that most likely would be a specious assumption), not all calling fax machines send fax tones. So, y'know, that assertion gets made a lot. What's the turn rate of fax machines in the market? 3 years? 5? CNG tones are *well* over 10 years old, no? What percentage of fax calls are sent without CNG tones these days? Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Designer Baylink RFC 2100 Ashworth AssociatesThe Things I Think '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 That's women for you; you divorce them, and 10 years later, they stop having sex with you. -- Jennifer Crusie; _Fast_Women_ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Com os melhores cumprimentos, Marco Mouta ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Fax detection ...
It all boils down to this: If they don't send a tone I won't get the fax. Its like my email now with DNS blacklists enabled. If they have a dial-up ADSL account they can't send me mail as my server denied them. Different technology, same problem. Whatever they invent next will, more than likely, have the same problem. If they really want me to receive whatever it is they want me to see ... they can post it :-) that nearly always works too! Phil. Lee Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] van.com To Sent by: Asterisk Users Mailing List - asterisk-users-bo Non-Commercial Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] asterisk-users@lists.digium.com m.com cc Subject 02/10/2006 17:31 Re: [asterisk-users] Fax detection ... Please respond to Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] ists.digium.com Jay R. Ashworth wrote: My personal experience is that I've never seen a consumer-grade fax machine with send-CNG turned off, and I don't *think* I've ever seen one on which there was a knob *to* turn it off; I would be less sure about fax modems -- those may have a knob, but I would expect it to default on. On fax modems the way to silent-dial (and I believe that this was a norm from early-on) to to add an @ at the end of the dialstring: ATDT5551212@. I would be very surprised to find any modern fax modem that does not have this capability. I don't know of any specific fax machine that has such a knob to turn CNG off. But my contention wasn't that it was consumer-grade fax machines that were the main culprit here, but rather fax servers (PCs with fax modems in them). And depending on what industry you are sampling, those may actually consitute a fair amount of the caller pool. (For example, some industry software - like insurance agent application software - will have built-in fax features that will use the PC's fax modem - and the application vendor may insist on that feature being used.) I cannot cite specific software that does it, but I suspect that most fax application developers are aware of the ability to silent-dial, and the reasons why it may be employed. As I've said before, one reason, as an example, is to make the modem capable of hearing ringback - so that it knows if the call has been answered or not (which itself is a unreliable endeavor). Another reason is to avoid annoying the receiver moreso on a call to a wrong-number. It's off the topic of silent dialing but on the topic of this thread... Brother fax machine manuals state that it is possible for them to erroniously detect certain voices or music as CNG tones, and if that becomes a problem to disable fax detection. And that's basically another point along the lines that say that fax detection is not completely reliable. Lee. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Fax detection ...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It all boils down to this: If they don't send a tone I won't get the fax. And I certainly understand this approach. However, there are some situations where this is simply not suitable - where missing a fax costs money. Take, for example, the real estate industry where a fickle customer (isn't everyone fickle when dealing with real estate?) can be surveying mortgage quotes (frequently done by fax) and if you don't get their faxed authorization to pull their credit report and then you call them two days later to find out where it is ... well that customer may have already signed with another lender... and that just cost that agent 1-2% of the mortgage price (so that lost fax easily cost $2000 in lost opportunity). Lee. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Fax detection ...
You can trick their machine into sending tones. The following code with send tones that a terminating fax machine would normally respond with. This will even force really old G2 fax machines to respond. indications.conf: faxrec = !2100/2600,!0/10,!1850/2600 [custom-fax-did] exten = s,1,SetVar(FAXFILE=/var/spool/asterisk/fax/${UNIQUEID}.tif) exten = s,2,SetVar(EMAILADDR=${FAX_RX_EMAIL}) exten = s,3,SetCallerID(${FROM_DID}) exten = s,4,Answer exten = s,5,Playtones(faxrec) exten = s,6,Wait(6) exten = s,7,rxfax(${FAXFILE}) exten = s,8,system(tiff2pdf -p letter ${FAXFILE} -o ${FAXFILE}.pdf) exten = s,9,system(mime-construct --to ${EMAILADDR} --subject Fax DID ${CALLERIDNUM} --attachment ${CALLERIDNUM}.pdf --type application/pdf --file ${FAXFILE}.pdf) exten = s,10,system(rm ${FAXFILE} ${FAXFILE}.pdf) exten = s,11,Hangup James Taylor www.metrotel.net - Original Message - From: Lee Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Fax detection ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It all boils down to this: If they don't send a tone I won't get the fax. And I certainly understand this approach. However, there are some situations where this is simply not suitable - where missing a fax costs money. Take, for example, the real estate industry where a fickle customer (isn't everyone fickle when dealing with real estate?) can be surveying mortgage quotes (frequently done by fax) and if you don't get their faxed authorization to pull their credit report and then you call them two days later to find out where it is ... well that customer may have already signed with another lender... and that just cost that agent 1-2% of the mortgage price (so that lost fax easily cost $2000 in lost opportunity). Lee. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] Fax detection ...
Interesting trick! On the down side, won't sending this tone be pointless? If the receiver is not sure a fax is calling, then he will BEEP every caller (even voice calls). If the receiver is sure a fax is calling, why play the tones? MD -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 4:35 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Fax detection ... You can trick their machine into sending tones. The following code with send tones that a terminating fax machine would normally respond with. This will even force really old G2 fax machines to respond. indications.conf: faxrec = !2100/2600,!0/10,!1850/2600 [custom-fax-did] exten = s,1,SetVar(FAXFILE=/var/spool/asterisk/fax/${UNIQUEID}.tif) exten = s,2,SetVar(EMAILADDR=${FAX_RX_EMAIL}) exten = s,3,SetCallerID(${FROM_DID}) exten = s,4,Answer exten = s,5,Playtones(faxrec) exten = s,6,Wait(6) exten = s,7,rxfax(${FAXFILE}) exten = s,8,system(tiff2pdf -p letter ${FAXFILE} -o ${FAXFILE}.pdf) exten = s,9,system(mime-construct --to ${EMAILADDR} --subject Fax DID ${CALLERIDNUM} --attachment ${CALLERIDNUM}.pdf --type application/pdf --file ${FAXFILE}.pdf) exten = s,10,system(rm ${FAXFILE} ${FAXFILE}.pdf) exten = s,11,Hangup James Taylor www.metrotel.net - Original Message - From: Lee Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Fax detection ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It all boils down to this: If they don't send a tone I won't get the fax. And I certainly understand this approach. However, there are some situations where this is simply not suitable - where missing a fax costs money. Take, for example, the real estate industry where a fickle customer (isn't everyone fickle when dealing with real estate?) can be surveying mortgage quotes (frequently done by fax) and if you don't get their faxed authorization to pull their credit report and then you call them two days later to find out where it is ... well that customer may have already signed with another lender... and that just cost that agent 1-2% of the mortgage price (so that lost fax easily cost $2000 in lost opportunity). Lee. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Fax detection ...
I've only used this on dedicated fax numbers. I noticed that some fax machines didn't send tones and Asterisk didn't detect. They just sat there and looked at each other. After playing the tones, the fax machines started sending and it worked. James Taylor www.metrotel.net - Original Message - From: Michelle Dupuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 5:04 PM Subject: RE: [asterisk-users] Fax detection ... Interesting trick! On the down side, won't sending this tone be pointless? If the receiver is not sure a fax is calling, then he will BEEP every caller (even voice calls). If the receiver is sure a fax is calling, why play the tones? MD -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 4:35 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Fax detection ... You can trick their machine into sending tones. The following code with send tones that a terminating fax machine would normally respond with. This will even force really old G2 fax machines to respond. indications.conf: faxrec = !2100/2600,!0/10,!1850/2600 [custom-fax-did] exten = s,1,SetVar(FAXFILE=/var/spool/asterisk/fax/${UNIQUEID}.tif) exten = s,2,SetVar(EMAILADDR=${FAX_RX_EMAIL}) exten = s,3,SetCallerID(${FROM_DID}) exten = s,4,Answer exten = s,5,Playtones(faxrec) exten = s,6,Wait(6) exten = s,7,rxfax(${FAXFILE}) exten = s,8,system(tiff2pdf -p letter ${FAXFILE} -o ${FAXFILE}.pdf) exten = s,9,system(mime-construct --to ${EMAILADDR} --subject Fax DID ${CALLERIDNUM} --attachment ${CALLERIDNUM}.pdf --type application/pdf --file ${FAXFILE}.pdf) exten = s,10,system(rm ${FAXFILE} ${FAXFILE}.pdf) exten = s,11,Hangup James Taylor www.metrotel.net - Original Message - From: Lee Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Fax detection ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It all boils down to this: If they don't send a tone I won't get the fax. And I certainly understand this approach. However, there are some situations where this is simply not suitable - where missing a fax costs money. Take, for example, the real estate industry where a fickle customer (isn't everyone fickle when dealing with real estate?) can be surveying mortgage quotes (frequently done by fax) and if you don't get their faxed authorization to pull their credit report and then you call them two days later to find out where it is ... well that customer may have already signed with another lender... and that just cost that agent 1-2% of the mortgage price (so that lost fax easily cost $2000 in lost opportunity). Lee. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Fax detection ...
Jay R. Ashworth wrote: On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 10:43:44AM +0800, Steve Underwood wrote: Jay R. Ashworth wrote: On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 02:58:37PM -0700, Lee Howard wrote: Well, fax detection isn't entirely reliable anyway. Even if you assume that your fax detection feature and operation is flawless in properly detecting fax tones (and that most likely would be a specious assumption), not all calling fax machines send fax tones. So, y'know, that assertion gets made a lot. What's the turn rate of fax machines in the market? 3 years? 5? CNG tones are *well* over 10 years old, no? What relevance does that have to CNG? It was a feature of the original spec 30 years ago. Well, perhaps I wasn't paying attention, but I thought that CNG tones *had as their purpose* making receive FAX detection trivial. That would tend to make the question on-point, would it not? It is the age of the machines which has no relevance. What percentage of fax calls are sent without CNG tones these days? Quite a lot. A large number of FAX machines have CNG turned off. On many machines, if select features like sharing a line between FAX and answering machine CNG, CED and various other useful behaviour might be disabled. My personal experience is that I've never seen a consumer-grade fax machine with send-CNG turned off, and I don't *think* I've ever seen one on which there was a knob *to* turn it off; I would be less sure about fax modems -- those may have a knob, but I would expect it to default on. Could you expand on what behaviour you think CNG breaks? Cause I'm not modeling it, mentally... I guess you touched many consumer grade fax machines, since *most* above the very basic ones can do this in some way. Some have really fun behaviour. I used to suffer some Olivetti ones that had several modes of calling and answering - Delay a while, to give someone a chance to pick up first; Pick up, but remain silent and see what the machine can hear; etc. Those Olivettis would only properly send a fax to another Olivetti when they were in straight forward standard mode. Now there's compatibility for you. :-) A lot of other machines offer similarly dumb modes of behaviour, but nothing quite so extreme as those. When you investigate one of these issues, and ask the user why the machine is not in simple answering mode, they are usually unaware it is not. These modes get set largely at random on installed fax machines. Now, it seems like these special modes should only affect answering. It would seem they are mostly about doing what Asterisk is doing - waiting silently for the 1100Hz tone. However, that's just too clean and simple for the fax industry. They do a bunch of other dumb stuff to make things more awkward, like call and only send something when they here 2100Hz. Steve Steve ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Fax detection ...
On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 08:44:16AM +0800, Steve Underwood wrote: So, y'know, that assertion gets made a lot. What's the turn rate of fax machines in the market? 3 years? 5? CNG tones are *well* over 10 years old, no? What relevance does that have to CNG? It was a feature of the original spec 30 years ago. Well, perhaps I wasn't paying attention, but I thought that CNG tones *had as their purpose* making receive FAX detection trivial. That would tend to make the question on-point, would it not? It is the age of the machines which has no relevance. Ah. My early memories of CNG tones suggested that early fax machines did not actually send them. My personal experience is that I've never seen a consumer-grade fax machine with send-CNG turned off, and I don't *think* I've ever seen one on which there was a knob *to* turn it off; I would be less sure about fax modems -- those may have a knob, but I would expect it to default on. Could you expand on what behaviour you think CNG breaks? Cause I'm not modeling it, mentally... I guess you touched many consumer grade fax machines, since *most* above the very basic ones can do this in some way. Yeah, the only real pro grade fax machines I've ever run across was a Panafax I have that uses 3-inch core paper rolls, and I never really got that working. Some have really fun behaviour. I used to suffer some Olivetti ones that had several modes of calling and answering - Delay a while, to give someone a chance to pick up first; Pick up, but remain silent and see what the machine can hear; etc. Those Olivettis would only properly send a fax to another Olivetti when they were in straight forward standard mode. Now there's compatibility for you. :-) Yeah: I'm so compatible with everyone else that I'm not compatible with myself is kinda dumb. A lot of other machines offer similarly dumb modes of behaviour, but nothing quite so extreme as those. When you investigate one of these issues, and ask the user why the machine is not in simple answering mode, they are usually unaware it is not. These modes get set largely at random on installed fax machines. Yay. Now, it seems like these special modes should only affect answering. It would seem they are mostly about doing what Asterisk is doing - waiting silently for the 1100Hz tone. However, that's just too clean and simple for the fax industry. They do a bunch of other dumb stuff to make things more awkward, like call and only send something when they here 2100Hz. What fun. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth[EMAIL PROTECTED] Designer Baylink RFC 2100 Ashworth AssociatesThe Things I Think'87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 That's women for you; you divorce them, and 10 years later, they stop having sex with you. -- Jennifer Crusie; _Fast_Women_ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Fax detection ...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having trouble detecting faxes reliably. I'm using one analog line for both voice and fax. Sometimes this works but a lot of the time it doesn't and I was wondering if anyone knew why. Well, fax detection isn't entirely reliable anyway. Even if you assume that your fax detection feature and operation is flawless in properly detecting fax tones (and that most likely would be a specious assumption), not all calling fax machines send fax tones. So if you can tolerate it being not entirely reliable, then go ahead and use fax detection. If you need reliable, then don't rely on fax detection. Lee. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Fax detection ...
On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 02:58:37PM -0700, Lee Howard wrote: Well, fax detection isn't entirely reliable anyway. Even if you assume that your fax detection feature and operation is flawless in properly detecting fax tones (and that most likely would be a specious assumption), not all calling fax machines send fax tones. So, y'know, that assertion gets made a lot. What's the turn rate of fax machines in the market? 3 years? 5? CNG tones are *well* over 10 years old, no? What percentage of fax calls are sent without CNG tones these days? Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth[EMAIL PROTECTED] Designer Baylink RFC 2100 Ashworth AssociatesThe Things I Think'87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 That's women for you; you divorce them, and 10 years later, they stop having sex with you. -- Jennifer Crusie; _Fast_Women_ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Fax detection ...
Why don't you look for application NVfaxDetect ? are you using Digium boards?I've been using it sucessfully for fax reception!Look for it on voip wiki.On 10/1/06, Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 02:58:37PM -0700, Lee Howard wrote: Well, fax detection isn't entirely reliable anyway.Even if you assume that your fax detection feature and operation is flawless in properly detecting fax tones (and that most likely would be a specious assumption), not all calling fax machines send fax tones.So, y'know, that assertion gets made a lot.What's the turn rate of fax machines in the market? 3 years?5?CNG tones are *well* over 10 years old, no?What percentage of fax calls are sent without CNG tones these days?Cheers,-- jra--Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]DesignerBaylink RFC 2100Ashworth AssociatesThe Things I Think'87 e24St Petersburg FL USA http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274That's women for you; you divorce them, and 10 years later,they stop having sex with you.-- Jennifer Crusie; _Fast_Women_ ___--Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com --asterisk-users mailing listTo UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users-- Com os melhores cumprimentos, Marco Mouta ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Fax detection ...
Jay R. Ashworth wrote: On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 02:58:37PM -0700, Lee Howard wrote: Well, fax detection isn't entirely reliable anyway. Even if you assume that your fax detection feature and operation is flawless in properly detecting fax tones (and that most likely would be a specious assumption), not all calling fax machines send fax tones. So, y'know, that assertion gets made a lot. What's the turn rate of fax machines in the market? 3 years? 5? CNG tones are *well* over 10 years old, no? What percentage of fax calls are sent without CNG tones these days? I couldn't say, myself, because I've not run statistics on it - and even if I did it would be skewed to the pool of fax systems used by the industry where I took the sampling. The reason that some machines don't send fax tones isn't usually because they are old, but rather because the manufacturer or user have deliberately made it behave that way. For example, with a lot of traditional modem hardware, in order to detect ringback (used on analog lines to determine whether or not the call was even answered), CNG is often disabled. Furthermore, some fax senders (in particular fax *servers* - especially those used for fax spam) deliberately disable CNG to avoid annoying the receiver in the event that a number is misdialed. We don't care about that fax spam, I know. However, fax spammers often use the same hardware and software that other people will use for non-spam purposes. Lee. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Fax detection ...
Jay R. Ashworth wrote: On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 02:58:37PM -0700, Lee Howard wrote: Well, fax detection isn't entirely reliable anyway. Even if you assume that your fax detection feature and operation is flawless in properly detecting fax tones (and that most likely would be a specious assumption), not all calling fax machines send fax tones. So, y'know, that assertion gets made a lot. What's the turn rate of fax machines in the market? 3 years? 5? CNG tones are *well* over 10 years old, no? What relevance does that have to CNG? It was a feature of the original spec 30 years ago. What percentage of fax calls are sent without CNG tones these days? Quite a lot. A large number of FAX machines have CNG turned off. On many machines, if select features like sharing a line between FAX and answering machine CNG, CED and various other useful behaviour might be disabled. Steve ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Fax detection ...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I'm having trouble detecting faxes reliably. I'm using one analog line for From what I've read, it isn't reliable. Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Detection on outbound call
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 05:17:03PM +1000, Mark Edwards wrote: I'm trying to configure my asterisk server to detect fax on an outbound ZAP call. The reason for this is that I have a bunch of interviewers in an outbound callcentre who don't like listening to fax machines and I want to be able to detect fax on the outbound leg before attempting to bridge the call. I have tried using app_nv_faxdetect with the M(faxdetect) option of the Dial command, but I am not sure that this is operating on the right leg of the call. I have tried with /etc/asterisk/Zapata.conf and the faxdetect=... entries, but this doesn't seem to have the desired effect. What is the desired effect? What do you get? Can you provide more informamtion on your configuration? -- Tzafrir Cohen sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] icq#16849755 iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +972-50-7952406 jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xorcom.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] Fax Detection on outbound call
Sure. Agents are logged individually into queues and can therefore work offhook. My application issues an 'originate' via AMI from the queue to the destination number. When the call is answered it is bridged and connects the Agent to the destination party. The desired effect would be that when the application makes a call to the destination party, if it is a fax number, the call can be prevented from sending audio back to the agent. Happy to provide any further information... Cheers Mark. -Original Message- From: Tzafrir Cohen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 22 September 2006 6:56 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Detection on outbound call On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 05:17:03PM +1000, Mark Edwards wrote: I'm trying to configure my asterisk server to detect fax on an outbound ZAP call. The reason for this is that I have a bunch of interviewers in an outbound callcentre who don't like listening to fax machines and I want to be able to detect fax on the outbound leg before attempting to bridge the call. I have tried using app_nv_faxdetect with the M(faxdetect) option of the Dial command, but I am not sure that this is operating on the right leg of the call. I have tried with /etc/asterisk/Zapata.conf and the faxdetect=... entries, but this doesn't seem to have the desired effect. What is the desired effect? What do you get? Can you provide more informamtion on your configuration? -- Tzafrir Cohen sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] icq#16849755 iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +972-50-7952406 jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xorcom.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] Fax Detection on outbound call
Here's the dialplan I am using at the moment. [dialer-test-2] exten = _X.,1,Set(TIMEOUT(resposnse)=10) exten = _X.,n,dial(Zap/g1/${EXTEN},60,M(detect-fax^1^2)) exten = _X.,n,noop(back from dial in dialer-test-2) exten = t,1,noop(timeout) [macro-detect-fax] exten = s,1,noop(detecting fax) exten = s,n,NVFaxDetect(6|nt|2000) exten = s,n,noop(after NVFaxDetect) exten = fax,1,noop(got fax) exten = fax,n,hangup exten = talk,1,noop(got talk) exten = talk,n,hangup At present, NVFaxDetect doesn't appear to pick up fax tone when I dial out to a fax machine. Of course this may end up a question re debugging of asterisk dsp.c! Cheers, Mark. -Original Message- From: Tzafrir Cohen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 22 September 2006 6:56 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Detection on outbound call On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 05:17:03PM +1000, Mark Edwards wrote: I'm trying to configure my asterisk server to detect fax on an outbound ZAP call. The reason for this is that I have a bunch of interviewers in an outbound callcentre who don't like listening to fax machines and I want to be able to detect fax on the outbound leg before attempting to bridge the call. I have tried using app_nv_faxdetect with the M(faxdetect) option of the Dial command, but I am not sure that this is operating on the right leg of the call. I have tried with /etc/asterisk/Zapata.conf and the faxdetect=... entries, but this doesn't seem to have the desired effect. What is the desired effect? What do you get? Can you provide more informamtion on your configuration? -- Tzafrir Cohen sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] icq#16849755 iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +972-50-7952406 jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xorcom.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] fax detection on TE406P
Cameron Grant wrote: I am having problems detecting fax on a client site using the TE406P (card with echo cancellation module) under 1.2 and was wondering if anybody was having or has had similar problems? Yes, we are aware that the VPM currently breaks FAX tone detection. For a temporary workaround, you can add 'vpmdtmfsupport=0' to the module parameters for wct4xxp and it will stop this behavior without disabling the echo canceler. We are working on finding a solution for this issue, and once the driver is updated with a fix there will be a notice made to the lists. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax detection question
Hi, look insdie wiki for faxdetect instrction. g Rudolf Ladyzhenskii wrote: Hi, all Here is what I plan to do: Have an asterisk server with 1FXS and 1 FXO port. Will have fax machine connected to FXS and will use IP phones. I want asterisk to detect incoming fax and swith it to fax line automatically. Something like this: Incoming on FXO. Asterisk to pick up. Asterisk to detect if there is an incoming fax and switch to fax machine. If call is voice call, then ring IP phone(s). Detecting the fax is a grey area for me. Can asterisk do it? How do set it up? (HW is TDM400 card with 1FXS, 1FXO port). Thanks, Rudolf ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax DETECTION with CAPI
On Mon, 4 Jul 2005, sylvain garcia wrote: hi, I have dabian sarge with asterisk 1.0.7 and chan_capi 0.3.5 with AVM fritz card. I would like use detecion of fax, but it don't work. So, i would like know if it's possible to work fax detection with this card? And if it's possible how?? capiFax is integrated in chan_capi-cm (on sourceforge), but I cannot tell if the driver for the fritz card provides faxing... Armin ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax detection: Problem with extension number
For what I'm seeing in your log, the fax is detected, but you're missing the fax extension. Here is how it works on my asterisk: zapata.conf: faxdetect = incoming extensions.conf: [pstn-in] exten = 1234567,1,Goto(fax,s,1) ; This is a dedicated fax number exten = fax,1,Goto(fax,s,1) ; For Zaptel fax detection (must be answer first to be detected) [fax] exten = s,1,ZapEC(off) exten = s,2,Wait(2) exten = s,3,RxFAX(/var/lib/asterisk/fax/${UNIQUEID}.tif) exten = s,4,Hangup exten = fax,1,ZapEC(off) exten = fax,2,RxFAX(/var/lib/asterisk/fax/${UNIQUEID}.tif) exten = fax,3,Hangup exten = h,1,System(/usr/bin/fax2pdf /var/lib/asterisk/fax/${UNIQUEID}.tif /var/lib/asterisk/fax/${UNIQUEID}.pdf) I'm not really sure what exten number to use in fax context, but it works. Jean-Christophe Jean-Yves Avenard a écrit : Hello I've been having the following problem today : I have a quite simple dialplan made to receive a fax: [answer-extension] exten = 1,1,Answer exten = 1,2,Macro(setcallerid) exten = 1,3,Ringing exten = 1,4,Wait(3) exten = 1,5,Macro(stdfwd3iax-notransfer,${EXTENSION},${EXTENSION},${EXTENSION}) exten = fax,1,Goto(faxreceive,1,1) The Wait(3) is there simply to let the system a bit of time to detect if it's a fax calling, this has worked so far in all cases except today. I received a fax from overseas and it seems that Asterisk has been unable to detect that it was a fax in the 3 seconds wait. Changing to 5s was sufficient to receive the fax. But obviously this is not a solution I want to adopt all the time as 1-it's a tool long wait, 2-what happens if 5s is still not enough another time. So Asterisk recognized that a fax was being received while executing the macro stdfwd3iax-notransfer (this extension simply check And I saw the following message in the console: -- Executing VoiceMail(Zap/10-1, u200) in new stack -- Playing '/data/asterisk/var/spool/asterisk/voicemail/default/200/unavail' (language 'en') -- Redirecting Zap/10-1 to fax extension May 25 01:19:34 WARNING[17629]: pbx.c:2412 ast_pbx_run: Timeout, but no rule 't' in context 'answer-extension' -- Hungup 'Zap/10-1' It seems that Asterisk once entered in a Macro is unable to jump to the fax extension and gave me a timeout (which I do not handle in my dialplan). If I change the Wait(3) into Wait(0) the problem can be easily reproduced at all times. I then added a fax extension in the Macro just in case, but it made no difference whatsoever. Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong or is this a problem with Asterisk? The fully log is below. Thank you in advance Jean-Yves When I looked in the console on what what happening I say this: -- Accepting call from '' to '85735200' on channel 0/10, span 1 -- Executing AGI(Zap/10-1, getnumber.agi|200) in new stack -- Launched AGI Script /data/asterisk/var/lib/asterisk/agi-bin/getnumber.agi -- AGI Script getnumber.agi completed, returning 0 -- Executing Set(Zap/10-1, EXTENSION=00) in new stack -- Executing Goto(Zap/10-1, answer-extension|1|1) in new stack -- Goto (answer-extension,1,1) -- Executing Answer(Zap/10-1, ) in new stack -- Executing Macro(Zap/10-1, setcallerid) in new stack -- Executing GotoIf(Zap/10-1, 11?10:11) in new stack -- Goto (macro-setcallerid,s,10) -- Executing Set(Zap/10-1, CALLERID(number)='') in new stack -- Executing GotoIf(Zap/10-1, 0?20) in new stack -- Executing Ringing(Zap/10-1, ) in new stack -- Executing Wait(Zap/10-1, 0) in new stack -- Executing Macro(Zap/10-1, stdfwd3iax-notransfer|200|200|100) in new stack -- Executing DBget(Zap/10-1, temp=CFIM/200) in new stack -- DBget: varname=temp, family=CFIM, key=200 -- DBget: Value not found in database. -- Executing Goto(Zap/10-1, 3) in new stack -- Goto (macro-stdfwd3iax-notransfer,s,3) -- Executing Dial(Zap/10-1, IAX2/iax100|20|tr) in new stack May 25 01:19:21 NOTICE[17629]: app_dial.c:972 dial_exec_full: Unable to create channel of type 'IAX2' (cause 3) == Everyone is busy/congested at this time (1:0/0/1) -- Executing NoOp(Zap/10-1, CHANUNAVAIL) in new stack -- Executing Goto(Zap/10-1, s-CHANUNAVAIL|1) in new stack -- Goto (macro-stdfwd3iax-notransfer,s-CHANUNAVAIL,1) -- Executing Goto(Zap/10-1, s|400) in new stack -- Goto (macro-stdfwd3iax-notransfer,s,400) -- Executing Dial(Zap/10-1, SIP/ipp100|20|tr) in new stack May 25 01:19:21 NOTICE[17629]: app_dial.c:972 dial_exec_full: Unable to create channel of type 'SIP' (cause 3) == Everyone is busy/congested at this time (1:0/0/1) -- Executing Goto(Zap/10-1, s2-CHANUNAVAIL|1) in new stack -- Goto (macro-stdfwd3iax-notransfer,s2-CHANUNAVAIL,1) -- Executing Goto(Zap/10-1, s|200) in new stack -- Goto (macro-stdfwd3iax-notransfer,s,200) -- Executing DBget(Zap/10-1, temp=CFBS/200) in new stack -- DBget: varname=temp, family=CFBS, key=200
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax detection: Problem with extension number
Hi.On 26/05/2005, at 4:31 PM, Jean-Christophe Heger wrote:For what I'm seeing in your log, the fax is detected, but you're missingthe fax extension. Here is how it works on my asterisk:uh??did you really read my email?Jean-Yves Avenard a écrit :[answer-extension]exten = 1,1,Answerexten = 1,2,Macro(setcallerid)exten = 1,3,Ringingexten = 1,4,Wait(3)exten =1,5,Macro(stdfwd3iax-notransfer,${EXTENSION},${EXTENSION},${EXTENSION})exten = fax,1,Goto(faxreceive,1,1)Here.. I have a fax extension..My point was that if a macro is called, and it detects the fax while in this macro, then it tries to jump to the fax extension but can't find it.Even if I put a fax extension in the Macro it makes no difference.Looks like a bug to me in AsteriskJean-Yves___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax detection CAPI (doesn't work!)
On Tuesday, 14 December, 2004 22:17 : Humberto Aicardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm currently using a ISDN-BRI with a Fritz ISDN card and the chan-capi. The problem is that the fax detection is not executed, Hi, The fax detection in chan_capi use the CAPI DTMF feature. So you need to set in /etc/asterisk/capi.conf the line softdtmf=0 Check if CFLAGS+=-DFORCE_SOFTWARE_DTMF in Makefile of chan_capi is commented (#). If you start asterisk with the -v option, you should see : CAPI[contrX] supports DTMF And obviously the card must report a DTMF when a fax tone is detected. It may be possible to alter the code and use the asterisk dsp code instead. Regards, -- Carl ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax detection in voip channel
On 2004.10.21 14:49 usedcanon wrote: Hi All, Is it possible to detect an incomming fax just as it is possible with Answer on a Zap channel. If not do others find the possibility of this enhancement useful too? Doing fax over SIP or IAX would be a frustrating effort, and a complete waste of time, IMO. See: http://www.opencall.org/faq/x47.html If you don't believe me, go ahead and actually *try* to send/receive a fax through a WAN/internet VoIP connection. You'll probably get tolerable results with SIP-fax on a LAN, but run it through a VoIP provider over the internet, and you'll have a mess, even if the codec is ULAW/ALAW What you really want is a T.38 channel driver. Lee. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Fax detection in voip channel
-Original Message- From: Lee Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 October 2004 23:20 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Cc: usedcanon Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax detection in voip channel On 2004.10.21 14:49 usedcanon wrote: Hi All, Is it possible to detect an incomming fax just as it is possible with Answer on a Zap channel. If not do others find the possibility of this enhancement useful too? Doing fax over SIP or IAX would be a frustrating effort, and a complete waste of time, IMO. See: http://www.opencall.org/faq/x47.html If you don't believe me, go ahead and actually *try* to send/receive a fax through a WAN/internet VoIP connection. You'll probably get tolerable results with SIP-fax on a LAN, but run it through a VoIP provider over the internet, and you'll have a mess, even if the codec is ULAW/ALAW What you really want is a T.38 channel driver. Lee. I understand what you are saying however there are scenarios where fax over voip works fine, I have tested (briefly) with spandsp and have done so sucessfully. as a sperate solutions we use mediatrix gateways very successfully for fax transmision over IP, our IP network is private and does not touch the internet so we can gaurantee (to some extent) bandwidth and quality. A T.38 solution would be most desirable, no doubt, but is there one ? I don't even see a mention of it anywhere. Umar ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Fax detection in voip channel
Na we did faxing over: SIP = ASTERISK = IAX = PSTN = ASTERISK = IAX = ASTERISK = PRI = HYLAFAX Worked great.. and it started on someone's cable modem.. using g726 no less. bkw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee Howard Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 5:20 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Cc: usedcanon Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax detection in voip channel On 2004.10.21 14:49 usedcanon wrote: Hi All, Is it possible to detect an incomming fax just as it is possible with Answer on a Zap channel. If not do others find the possibility of this enhancement useful too? Doing fax over SIP or IAX would be a frustrating effort, and a complete waste of time, IMO. See: http://www.opencall.org/faq/x47.html If you don't believe me, go ahead and actually *try* to send/receive a fax through a WAN/internet VoIP connection. You'll probably get tolerable results with SIP-fax on a LAN, but run it through a VoIP provider over the internet, and you'll have a mess, even if the codec is ULAW/ALAW What you really want is a T.38 channel driver. Lee. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax detection in voip channel
Ironically, I just got back to my desk from faxing an 18 page document.. ulaw codec.. call path: sip gateway - asterisk - max tnt - pri lines/pstn I haven't really had many troubles with fax.. apart from when I was using a particular voip provider named voiplist.. they refused to support it saying that and I quote: the service is voice over ip not fax over ip how silly is that.. But I do agree.. a nice open t.38 platform would be wonderful.. inside of asterisk.. on media gateways.. everywhere.. but it isn't there yet.. usedcanon wrote: -Original Message- From: Lee Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 October 2004 23:20 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Cc: usedcanon Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax detection in voip channel On 2004.10.21 14:49 usedcanon wrote: Hi All, Is it possible to detect an incomming fax just as it is possible with Answer on a Zap channel. If not do others find the possibility of this enhancement useful too? Doing fax over SIP or IAX would be a frustrating effort, and a complete waste of time, IMO. See: http://www.opencall.org/faq/x47.html If you don't believe me, go ahead and actually *try* to send/receive a fax through a WAN/internet VoIP connection. You'll probably get tolerable results with SIP-fax on a LAN, but run it through a VoIP provider over the internet, and you'll have a mess, even if the codec is ULAW/ALAW What you really want is a T.38 channel driver. Lee. I understand what you are saying however there are scenarios where fax over voip works fine, I have tested (briefly) with spandsp and have done so sucessfully. as a sperate solutions we use mediatrix gateways very successfully for fax transmision over IP, our IP network is private and does not touch the internet so we can gaurantee (to some extent) bandwidth and quality. A T.38 solution would be most desirable, no doubt, but is there one ? I don't even see a mention of it anywhere. Umar ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users begin:vcard fn:Matt Hess n:Hess;Matt org:LiveWireNet adr;dom:;;4577 Pecos St;Denver;CO;80211 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Senior Network Engineer tel;work:303-458-5667 tel;fax:303-458-5725 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.livewirenet.com/ version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax detection in voip channel
usedcanon wrote: Hi All, Is it possible to detect an incomming fax just as it is possible with Answer on a Zap channel. If not do others find the possibility of this enhancement useful too? Detecting that an incoming is a FAX has been present in * since its early days. Regards, Steve ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [spam] Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Detection
Bkw thanks for the advcicel no joy though: I tried: Exten = 08700686XXX,1,Goto(textextension,7000,1) [testextension] Exten = 7000,1,Answer Exten = 7000,2,Ringing Exten = 7000,3,Wait(5) Exten = 7000,4,Dial(SIP/104) Exten = fax,1,rxfax(/var/spool/asterisk/incoming/testfax.tif) Exten = fax,2,congestion Exten = fax,102,congestion Any other tips? Cheers Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian K. West Sent: 08 July 2004 02:22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [spam] Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Detection Try Answer Then Ringing and wait about 2-3 seconds. Then Dial bkw - Original Message - From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Detection Hi all I've tried Google, wiki and mailing list and IRC but still haven't gotten to the bottom of this. Hopefully someone might be able to help. I'm using telappliant to provide my inbound and outbound calls. * plays host to 30 cisco's and they are all working great using G711 A-law. I've managed to get SpanDSP to compile and install and I can send a receive a fax on a dedicated extension. What I'm trying to do now and can't seem to nail is getting an inbound fax to be detected and then handled. I've tried the examples from the wiki and the sites linked on the wiki; messed about trying my own weird and wonderful methods but still no joy. All the calls are using G711 A-law. Here is the test context I'm using XXX = hiden Exten = 08700686XXX,1,Goto(textextension,7000,1) [testextension] Exten = 7000,1,Answer Exten = 7000,2,Dial(SIP/104) Exten = fax,1,rxfax(/var/spool/asterisk/incoming/testfax.tif) Exten = fax,2,congestion Exten = fax,102,congestion Calls hit the testextension contect but don't get detected as a fax. Cheers Matt ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Detection
On July 7, 2004 09:19 pm, Matt wrote: Hi all I've tried Google, wiki and mailing list and IRC but still haven't gotten to the bottom of this. Hopefully someone might be able to help. I'm using telappliant to provide my inbound and outbound calls. I'm not familiar with teleppliant. Do you use a digium (zap) card? AFAIK, you need one and need faxdetect=yes in zapata.conf. When a fax comes in, does anything relevant get written to * console? * plays host to 30 cisco's and they are all working great using G711 A-law. I've managed to get SpanDSP to compile and install and I can send a receive a fax on a dedicated extension. What I'm trying to do now and can't seem to nail is getting an inbound fax to be detected and then handled. I've tried the examples from the wiki and the sites linked on the wiki; messed about trying my own weird and wonderful methods but still no joy. All the calls are using G711 A-law. Here is the test context I'm using XXX = hiden Exten = 08700686XXX,1,Goto(textextension,7000,1) [testextension] Exten = 7000,1,Answer Exten = 7000,2,Dial(SIP/104) Exten = fax,1,rxfax(/var/spool/asterisk/incoming/testfax.tif) Exten = fax,2,congestion Exten = fax,102,congestion Calls hit the testextension contect but don't get detected as a fax. Cheers Matt ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- .. Ryan Courtnage Coalescent Systems Inc 403.244.8089 www.voxbox.ca ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Detection
Hi Ryan, Telappliant only offer SIP/IAX inbound I do have an X100P in the PBX and faxdetect=yes in the zapata.conf. I suppose my question is: does SpanDSP detect faxes over SIP or is it only over Zap? Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Courtnage Sent: 08 July 2004 09:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Detection On July 7, 2004 09:19 pm, Matt wrote: Hi all I've tried Google, wiki and mailing list and IRC but still haven't gotten to the bottom of this. Hopefully someone might be able to help. I'm using telappliant to provide my inbound and outbound calls. I'm not familiar with teleppliant. Do you use a digium (zap) card? AFAIK, you need one and need faxdetect=yes in zapata.conf. When a fax comes in, does anything relevant get written to * console? * plays host to 30 cisco's and they are all working great using G711 A-law. I've managed to get SpanDSP to compile and install and I can send a receive a fax on a dedicated extension. What I'm trying to do now and can't seem to nail is getting an inbound fax to be detected and then handled. I've tried the examples from the wiki and the sites linked on the wiki; messed about trying my own weird and wonderful methods but still no joy. All the calls are using G711 A-law. Here is the test context I'm using XXX = hiden Exten = 08700686XXX,1,Goto(textextension,7000,1) [testextension] Exten = 7000,1,Answer Exten = 7000,2,Dial(SIP/104) Exten = fax,1,rxfax(/var/spool/asterisk/incoming/testfax.tif) Exten = fax,2,congestion Exten = fax,102,congestion Calls hit the testextension contect but don't get detected as a fax. Cheers Matt ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- .. Ryan Courtnage Coalescent Systems Inc 403.244.8089 www.voxbox.ca ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Detection
Hi Ryan, Faxdetect should be set to one of the following in zapata.conf: faxdetect=both faxdetect=incoming faxdetect=outgoing faxdetect=no I don't believe that faxdetect=yes is valid but I didn't read the source, just the sample config file. -Seth On Thu, 2004-07-08 at 12:28, Matt wrote: Hi Ryan, Telappliant only offer SIP/IAX inbound I do have an X100P in the PBX and faxdetect=yes in the zapata.conf. I suppose my question is: does SpanDSP detect faxes over SIP or is it only over Zap? Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Courtnage Sent: 08 July 2004 09:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Detection On July 7, 2004 09:19 pm, Matt wrote: Hi all I've tried Google, wiki and mailing list and IRC but still haven't gotten to the bottom of this. Hopefully someone might be able to help. I'm using telappliant to provide my inbound and outbound calls. I'm not familiar with teleppliant. Do you use a digium (zap) card? AFAIK, you need one and need faxdetect=yes in zapata.conf. When a fax comes in, does anything relevant get written to * console? * plays host to 30 cisco's and they are all working great using G711 A-law. I've managed to get SpanDSP to compile and install and I can send a receive a fax on a dedicated extension. What I'm trying to do now and can't seem to nail is getting an inbound fax to be detected and then handled. I've tried the examples from the wiki and the sites linked on the wiki; messed about trying my own weird and wonderful methods but still no joy. All the calls are using G711 A-law. Here is the test context I'm using XXX = hiden Exten = 08700686XXX,1,Goto(textextension,7000,1) [testextension] Exten = 7000,1,Answer Exten = 7000,2,Dial(SIP/104) Exten = fax,1,rxfax(/var/spool/asterisk/incoming/testfax.tif) Exten = fax,2,congestion Exten = fax,102,congestion Calls hit the testextension contect but don't get detected as a fax. Cheers Matt ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- .. Ryan Courtnage Coalescent Systems Inc 403.244.8089 www.voxbox.ca ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Seth Remington SaberLogic, LLC 661-B Weber Drive Wadsworth, Ohio 44281 Phone: (330)335-6442 Fax: (330)336-8559 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Detection
On 8-Jul-04, at 10:28 AM, Matt wrote: Hi Ryan, Telappliant only offer SIP/IAX inbound I do have an X100P in the PBX and faxdetect=yes in the zapata.conf. I suppose my question is: does SpanDSP detect faxes over SIP or is it only over Zap? AFAIK it's the digium card that _detects_ the fax, and allows the call to jump to the 'fax' extension. So fax _detection_ is a function of the card/driver .. and using the 'fax' extension requires the use of a digium card. SpanDSP just talks fax .. I don't think it actually does any detection. Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Courtnage Sent: 08 July 2004 09:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Detection On July 7, 2004 09:19 pm, Matt wrote: Hi all I've tried Google, wiki and mailing list and IRC but still haven't gotten to the bottom of this. Hopefully someone might be able to help. I'm using telappliant to provide my inbound and outbound calls. I'm not familiar with teleppliant. Do you use a digium (zap) card? AFAIK, you need one and need faxdetect=yes in zapata.conf. When a fax comes in, does anything relevant get written to * console? * plays host to 30 cisco's and they are all working great using G711 A-law. I've managed to get SpanDSP to compile and install and I can send a receive a fax on a dedicated extension. What I'm trying to do now and can't seem to nail is getting an inbound fax to be detected and then handled. I've tried the examples from the wiki and the sites linked on the wiki; messed about trying my own weird and wonderful methods but still no joy. All the calls are using G711 A-law. Here is the test context I'm using XXX = hiden Exten = 08700686XXX,1,Goto(textextension,7000,1) [testextension] Exten = 7000,1,Answer Exten = 7000,2,Dial(SIP/104) Exten = fax,1,rxfax(/var/spool/asterisk/incoming/testfax.tif) Exten = fax,2,congestion Exten = fax,102,congestion Calls hit the testextension contect but don't get detected as a fax. Cheers Matt ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- .. Ryan Courtnage Coalescent Systems Inc 403.244.8089 www.voxbox.ca ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Detection
Sorry it's currently set to both.it's been a long old day! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Seth Remington Sent: 08 July 2004 19:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Detection Hi Ryan, Faxdetect should be set to one of the following in zapata.conf: faxdetect=both faxdetect=incoming faxdetect=outgoing faxdetect=no I don't believe that faxdetect=yes is valid but I didn't read the source, just the sample config file. -Seth On Thu, 2004-07-08 at 12:28, Matt wrote: Hi Ryan, Telappliant only offer SIP/IAX inbound I do have an X100P in the PBX and faxdetect=yes in the zapata.conf. I suppose my question is: does SpanDSP detect faxes over SIP or is it only over Zap? Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Courtnage Sent: 08 July 2004 09:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Detection On July 7, 2004 09:19 pm, Matt wrote: Hi all I've tried Google, wiki and mailing list and IRC but still haven't gotten to the bottom of this. Hopefully someone might be able to help. I'm using telappliant to provide my inbound and outbound calls. I'm not familiar with teleppliant. Do you use a digium (zap) card? AFAIK, you need one and need faxdetect=yes in zapata.conf. When a fax comes in, does anything relevant get written to * console? * plays host to 30 cisco's and they are all working great using G711 A-law. I've managed to get SpanDSP to compile and install and I can send a receive a fax on a dedicated extension. What I'm trying to do now and can't seem to nail is getting an inbound fax to be detected and then handled. I've tried the examples from the wiki and the sites linked on the wiki; messed about trying my own weird and wonderful methods but still no joy. All the calls are using G711 A-law. Here is the test context I'm using XXX = hiden Exten = 08700686XXX,1,Goto(textextension,7000,1) [testextension] Exten = 7000,1,Answer Exten = 7000,2,Dial(SIP/104) Exten = fax,1,rxfax(/var/spool/asterisk/incoming/testfax.tif) Exten = fax,2,congestion Exten = fax,102,congestion Calls hit the testextension contect but don't get detected as a fax. Cheers Matt ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- .. Ryan Courtnage Coalescent Systems Inc 403.244.8089 www.voxbox.ca ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Seth Remington SaberLogic, LLC 661-B Weber Drive Wadsworth, Ohio 44281 Phone: (330)335-6442 Fax: (330)336-8559 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Detection
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Ryan Courtnage wrote: AFAIK it's the digium card that _detects_ the fax, and allows the call to jump to the 'fax' extension. So fax _detection_ is a function of the card/driver .. and using the 'fax' extension requires the use of a digium card. SpanDSP just talks fax .. I don't think it actually does any detection. It's not the card that detects the fax. Its the builtin code in asterisk that does it (dsp.c). chan_zap.c is currently the only channel driver that uses the faxdetection but in theory it could be enabled/used in other channel drivers as well James ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Detection
Cheers James. Its been a while since I did some C coding. Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Golovich Sent: 08 July 2004 21:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Detection On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Ryan Courtnage wrote: AFAIK it's the digium card that _detects_ the fax, and allows the call to jump to the 'fax' extension. So fax _detection_ is a function of the card/driver .. and using the 'fax' extension requires the use of a digium card. SpanDSP just talks fax .. I don't think it actually does any detection. It's not the card that detects the fax. Its the builtin code in asterisk that does it (dsp.c). chan_zap.c is currently the only channel driver that uses the faxdetection but in theory it could be enabled/used in other channel drivers as well James ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Detection
Try Answer Then Ringing and wait about 2-3 seconds. Then Dial bkw - Original Message - From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Detection Hi all I've tried Google, wiki and mailing list and IRC but still haven't gotten to the bottom of this. Hopefully someone might be able to help. I'm using telappliant to provide my inbound and outbound calls. * plays host to 30 cisco's and they are all working great using G711 A-law. I've managed to get SpanDSP to compile and install and I can send a receive a fax on a dedicated extension. What I'm trying to do now and can't seem to nail is getting an inbound fax to be detected and then handled. I've tried the examples from the wiki and the sites linked on the wiki; messed about trying my own weird and wonderful methods but still no joy. All the calls are using G711 A-law. Here is the test context I'm using XXX = hiden Exten = 08700686XXX,1,Goto(textextension,7000,1) [testextension] Exten = 7000,1,Answer Exten = 7000,2,Dial(SIP/104) Exten = fax,1,rxfax(/var/spool/asterisk/incoming/testfax.tif) Exten = fax,2,congestion Exten = fax,102,congestion Calls hit the testextension contect but don't get detected as a fax. Cheers Matt ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] fax detection and X100P
if you 're not using linux you have to use gmake, not make Jean-Yves On 06/07/2004, at 9:22 PM, Mamadou Lamine KA wrote: i have successfully updated my cvs pull of zaptel but for asterisk when i type make cleani have the folowing error: Makefile:73: *** missing separator. Arrêt ( Arrêt means stop) Lamine
Re: [Asterisk-Users] fax detection
Please ignore my problem, I just added faxdetection to zapata.conf and everything is back to normal. Thanks, W - Original Message - From: Wojciech Tryc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 6:37 PM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] fax detection Everything but fax detection seems to be fixed in the latest CVS. Anyincoming fax on Zap channel does not get detected. Anyone? Thanks, Wojtek ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax detection on IAX2 channel?
On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 07:49, Guan Yang wrote: Hi, Will fax detection work on an IAX2 channel, or is it specific to Zaptel? Fax is generally a bad idea over VoIP. The detection should not be specific to any channel type. Kind regards, Martin List-Petersen martin at list-petersen dot net ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Detection?
On Apr 14, 2004, at 3:50 PM, Jeremy Bogan wrote: Hi All, I'm trying to get Asterisk auto fax detection working so that when a fax tone is detected it will ring my fax server that is plugged into my TDM400P. Does anyone know how to get this working successfully? I created a fax extension: exten = fax,1,Dial(Zap/4,20) as per what I had seen around various sites, etc. I can't seem to get it working though. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! You need to answer the phone, and be listening for fax tones. The easiest way to do this is to play something with the 'Background' command. Scott ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Detection on X100Ps
Your fax extension looks just like mine, except I'm using an FXS card. Mine redirects properly, but the faxes are garbled. I never found documentation for the d option, and it doesn't seem to help in my case. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Klepfer Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 2:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Detection on X100Ps I hate to add to the broken record-like melange of my fax won't work messages, but everything I've tried with all I could learn from the archives has not yet worked to get my fax machine (an HP combo tupperware tub) to receive a fax. In the combo's defense, I can't verify that the incoming fax tones are even detected on the * server. (is -c enough v's to see Fax detected messages from the zap channel?). The fax extension is never dialed and the incoming fax gets dumped to my timeout extension. Can anyone spot the bonehead move I made somewhere? The setup: * Server with 2 X100p cards handling our two incoming analog lines. (Gentoo, if it matters---2.4.22-r7 sources) * SIP only (so far) internally---no FXS cards * An HP combo fax/copier/printer/dish cleaner connected to a GS Handytone 286 ATA * Incoming and outgoing voice calls are routed fine * Although I didn't have another machine to fax TO, the HP dials out and spews CNG tones * zap context is default, default context contains fax extension * on reload, status includes: -- Added extension 'fax' priority 1 to default Version: (cvs'd last night and built, previous version cvs'd and built mid-Feb) === Asterisk CVS-01/27/04-23:36:00 built by [EMAIL PROTECTED] on a i686 running Linux Config files: == in extensions.conf: -- [default] ; exten = s,1,Answer exten = s,2,Ringing exten = s,3,Wait,2 exten = s,4,Background(photonx/welcome) exten = s,5,Background(photonx/choose) exten = s,6,Background(photonx/directory) exten = fax,1,Dial(SIP/ata4fax) ; [1] exten = fax,2,Hangup() ; snip --- [1] (Awaiting an opportunity to test d option mentioned on list (documentation for this?)) === in sip.conf: --- [general] port = 5060 bindaddr = 0.0.0.0 context = internal snip [ata4fax] type=friend username=ata4fax secret=atafax context=internal host=dynamic disallow=all allow=ulaw dmtfmode=inband ; (Was info: neither an issue, I think) canreinvite=no --- === in zapata.conf: --- [channels] ; ; generally stock - no calling options on our lines language=en context=default usecallerid=no hidecallerid=no callwaiting=no usecallingpres=yes callwaitingcallerid=no threewaycalling=no transfer=yes cancallforward=yes callreturn=yes echocancel=yes echocancelwhenbridged=yes ;echotraining=yes ;relaxdtmf=yes rxgain=10.0 txgain=5.0 group=1 callgroup=1 pickupgroup=1 immediate=yes callerid=asreceived amaflags=documentation ;busydetect=yes ;busycount=4 signalling=fxs_ks channel = 1-2 --- Best regards, Bob ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Detection on X100Ps
exten = fax,1,Dial(SIP/ata4fax) ; [1] Faxing via SIP? Does that even work? Faxing works for me but it is via ZAP. I do get the messages Fax detected redirecting to Fax extension. Which you should get irregardless of SIP. How are you testing this. Asterisk listens for the Fax Tone, I see you are answering the line which is a must, Background should detect this I think.. First step is to get the Fax detected by incoming Redirecting Zap/1-1 to fax extension This message does not show up in my log but DOES show up in my asterisk -r session or a redirection of asterisk -vvvc stdout to a file --- Bob Klepfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate to add to the broken record-like melange of my fax won't work messages, but everything I've tried with all I could learn from the archives has not yet worked to get my fax machine (an HP combo tupperware tub) to receive a fax. In the combo's defense, I can't verify that the incoming fax tones are even detected on the * server. (is -c enough v's to see Fax detected messages from the zap channel?). The fax extension is never dialed and the incoming fax gets dumped to my timeout extension. Can anyone spot the bonehead move I made somewhere? The setup: * Server with 2 X100p cards handling our two incoming analog lines. (Gentoo, if it matters---2.4.22-r7 sources) * SIP only (so far) internally---no FXS cards * An HP combo fax/copier/printer/dish cleaner connected to a GS Handytone 286 ATA * Incoming and outgoing voice calls are routed fine * Although I didn't have another machine to fax TO, the HP dials out and spews CNG tones * zap context is default, default context contains fax extension * on reload, status includes: -- Added extension 'fax' priority 1 to default Version: (cvs'd last night and built, previous version cvs'd and built mid-Feb) === Asterisk CVS-01/27/04-23:36:00 built by [EMAIL PROTECTED] on a i686 running Linux Config files: == in extensions.conf: -- [default] ; exten = s,1,Answer exten = s,2,Ringing exten = s,3,Wait,2 exten = s,4,Background(photonx/welcome) exten = s,5,Background(photonx/choose) exten = s,6,Background(photonx/directory) exten = fax,1,Dial(SIP/ata4fax) ; [1] exten = fax,2,Hangup() ; snip --- [1] (Awaiting an opportunity to test d option mentioned on list (documentation for this?)) === in sip.conf: --- [general] port = 5060 bindaddr = 0.0.0.0 context = internal snip [ata4fax] type=friend username=ata4fax secret=atafax context=internal host=dynamic disallow=all allow=ulaw dmtfmode=inband ; (Was info: neither an issue, I think) canreinvite=no --- === in zapata.conf: --- [channels] ; ; generally stock - no calling options on our lines language=en context=default usecallerid=no hidecallerid=no callwaiting=no usecallingpres=yes callwaitingcallerid=no threewaycalling=no transfer=yes cancallforward=yes callreturn=yes echocancel=yes echocancelwhenbridged=yes ;echotraining=yes ;relaxdtmf=yes rxgain=10.0 txgain=5.0 group=1 callgroup=1 pickupgroup=1 immediate=yes callerid=asreceived amaflags=documentation ;busydetect=yes ;busycount=4 signalling=fxs_ks channel = 1-2 --- Best regards, Bob ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Detection on X100Ps
Jim Sneeringer wrote: Your fax extension looks just like mine, except I'm using an FXS card. Mine redirects properly, but the faxes are garbled. I never found documentation for the d option, and it doesn't seem to help in my case. Here is how I use the d option. exten = s,1,Dial(Zap/103|20|d) exten = s,2,Dial(Zap/104|20|d) exten = s,102,Dial(Zap/104|20|d) I have 2 fax devices if one is busy it then tries the 2nd one. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Klepfer Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 2:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Detection on X100Ps I hate to add to the broken record-like melange of my fax won't work messages, but everything I've tried with all I could learn from the archives has not yet worked to get my fax machine (an HP combo tupperware tub) to receive a fax. In the combo's defense, I can't verify that the incoming fax tones are even detected on the * server. (is -c enough v's to see Fax detected messages from the zap channel?). The fax extension is never dialed and the incoming fax gets dumped to my timeout extension. Can anyone spot the bonehead move I made somewhere? The setup: * Server with 2 X100p cards handling our two incoming analog lines. (Gentoo, if it matters---2.4.22-r7 sources) * SIP only (so far) internally---no FXS cards * An HP combo fax/copier/printer/dish cleaner connected to a GS Handytone 286 ATA * Incoming and outgoing voice calls are routed fine * Although I didn't have another machine to fax TO, the HP dials out and spews CNG tones * zap context is default, default context contains fax extension * on reload, status includes: -- Added extension 'fax' priority 1 to default Version: (cvs'd last night and built, previous version cvs'd and built mid-Feb) === Asterisk CVS-01/27/04-23:36:00 built by [EMAIL PROTECTED] on a i686 running Linux Config files: == in extensions.conf: -- [default] ; exten = s,1,Answer exten = s,2,Ringing exten = s,3,Wait,2 exten = s,4,Background(photonx/welcome) exten = s,5,Background(photonx/choose) exten = s,6,Background(photonx/directory) exten = fax,1,Dial(SIP/ata4fax) ; [1] exten = fax,2,Hangup() ; snip --- [1] (Awaiting an opportunity to test d option mentioned on list (documentation for this?)) === in sip.conf: --- [general] port = 5060 bindaddr = 0.0.0.0 context = internal snip [ata4fax] type=friend username=ata4fax secret=atafax context=internal host=dynamic disallow=all allow=ulaw dmtfmode=inband ; (Was info: neither an issue, I think) canreinvite=no --- === in zapata.conf: --- [channels] ; ; generally stock - no calling options on our lines language=en context=default usecallerid=no hidecallerid=no callwaiting=no usecallingpres=yes callwaitingcallerid=no threewaycalling=no transfer=yes cancallforward=yes callreturn=yes echocancel=yes echocancelwhenbridged=yes ;echotraining=yes ;relaxdtmf=yes rxgain=10.0 txgain=5.0 group=1 callgroup=1 pickupgroup=1 immediate=yes callerid=asreceived amaflags=documentation ;busydetect=yes ;busycount=4 signalling=fxs_ks channel = 1-2 --- Best regards, Bob ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Detection on X100Ps
Jonathan Biggs wrote: exten = fax,1,Dial(SIP/ata4fax) ; [1] Faxing via SIP? Does that even work? Faxing works for me but it is via ZAP. When I started I saw no obvious signs that it doesn't. I've seen several references to a SIP channel in example fax exten lines, but documentation is scarce. I do get the messages Fax detected redirecting to Fax extension. Which you should get irregardless of SIP. And this is my quandry.. How are you testing this. Asterisk listens for the Fax Tone, I see you are answering the line which is a must, Background should detect this I think.. yup. First step is to get the Fax detected by incoming That's the plan. Redirecting Zap/1-1 to fax extension This message does not show up in my log but DOES show up in my asterisk -r session or a redirection of asterisk -vvvc stdout to a file I'm watching the asterisk-r off an asterisk started with -vvvc, and I see nothing like that message. If anyone wants to see other configs, let me know. I just realized I haven't tested both x100p cardsthat's next...after work when I get a chance to test. Bob ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Detection on X100Ps (Fixed!...I think)
Replying to my own email here... Bob Klepfer wrote: Jonathan Biggs wrote: exten = fax,1,Dial(SIP/ata4fax) ; [1] Faxing via SIP? Does that even work? Faxing works for me but it is via ZAP. When I started I saw no obvious signs that it doesn't. I've seen several references to a SIP channel in example fax exten lines, but documentation is scarce. See below. snip I'm watching the asterisk-r off an asterisk started with -vvvc, and I see nothing like that message. If anyone wants to see other configs, let me know. I just realized I haven't tested both x100p cardsthat's next...after work when I get a chance to test. Bob Um, ok. So it works now. Redirect message is there, and the fax answers. I didn't even try the second card, but I did try the d option to Dial (still looking for this documentation.).and now 2 minutes later I just tried without d and, as I expected, it still works without it. What actually changed to make this work, I couldn't tell ya. Maybe it was that static spark between me and the shelving where the server sits. :) Thanks anyway, Bob ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Detection on X100Ps (Fixed!...I think)
Bob, Help the rest of us out now and summarize the various *.conf entries that you have working. Might even start a new posting with a subject that will help everyone find your samples. Rich Replying to my own email here... Bob Klepfer wrote: Jonathan Biggs wrote: exten = fax,1,Dial(SIP/ata4fax) ; [1] Faxing via SIP? Does that even work? Faxing works for me but it is via ZAP. When I started I saw no obvious signs that it doesn't. I've seen several references to a SIP channel in example fax exten lines, but documentation is scarce. See below. snip I'm watching the asterisk-r off an asterisk started with -vvvc, and I see nothing like that message. If anyone wants to see other configs, let me know. I just realized I haven't tested both x100p cardsthat's next...after work when I get a chance to test. Bob Um, ok. So it works now. Redirect message is there, and the fax answers. I didn't even try the second card, but I did try the d option to Dial (still looking for this documentation.).and now 2 minutes later I just tried without d and, as I expected, it still works without it. What actually changed to make this work, I couldn't tell ya. Maybe it was that static spark between me and the shelving where the server sits. :) Thanks anyway, Bob ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ---End of Original Message- ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Detection on X100Ps (Fixed!...I think)
Rich Adamson wrote: Bob, Help the rest of us out now and summarize the various *.conf entries that you have working. Might even start a new posting with a subject that will help everyone find your samples. Rich I was planning to, Rich, as soon as I've finished the long delayed rollout here, if you can call 11 phones and a fax a rollout. I honestly can't spot the change I made to get the card to recognize the fax tones, but I'll post and/or wiki-ize my configs soon. Bob ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Detection on X100Ps (Fixed!...I think)
Glad to hear that is working, Sorry to hear that you'll have to stand next to the server and give it that static shock everytime you want to get a fax. Don't feel bad.. I spent 5 hours diagnosing why mine would not work before I realized that * had to answer the stinking line to hear the fax tone... Had debug messages in the code, etc. Felt like an idiot after that one.. --- Bob Klepfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rich Adamson wrote: Bob, Help the rest of us out now and summarize the various *.conf entries that you have working. Might even start a new posting with a subject that will help everyone find your samples. Rich I was planning to, Rich, as soon as I've finished the long delayed rollout here, if you can call 11 phones and a fax a rollout. I honestly can't spot the change I made to get the card to recognize the fax tones, but I'll post and/or wiki-ize my configs soon. Bob ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax Detection on X100Ps (Fixed!...I think)
Help the rest of us out now and summarize the various *.conf entries that you have working. Might even start a new posting with a subject that will help everyone find your samples. I was planning to, Rich, as soon as I've finished the long delayed rollout here, if you can call 11 phones and a fax a rollout. I honestly can't spot the change I made to get the card to recognize the fax tones, but I'll post and/or wiki-ize my configs soon. I'd suggest the majority of folks on this list are not a lot different in size from that, give or take some. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] fax detection: false positive
Tilghman, What happens if someone needs the new signalling routines *and* working fax detection? I'm personally not in this boat, but it's only a matter of time before someone is. Is this a temporary fix? If not, this should be documented somewhere as it seems to be a problem for enough people. (Olle? :) Thanks, Pat - Original Message - From: Tilghman Lesher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] fax detection: false positive On Friday 26 December 2003 13:42, john lawler wrote: Hi guys, I just moved from Asterisk release 0.5.0 to CVS 2003-12-22, and after overcoming a few changes in my configuration, I encountered one problem that I couldn't shake that was working fine in 0.5.0. It's the fax detection. I just have a simple extension setup like this: exten = fax,1,Dial(Zap/4,30,tr) exten = fax,2,Hangup in my main incoming context. This used to work fine, I don't think I ever had a false positive or negative, but now just about every call (possibly every call) that comes in when I've got that extension defined rolls to my fax machine on Zap/4 immediately. Uncomment OLD_DSP_ROUTINES near the top of dsp.c, recompile, install, and restart. The newer DSP routines are used to fix a type of signalling on EM lines. -Tilghman ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] fax detection: false positive
On Friday 26 December 2003 13:42, john lawler wrote: Hi guys, I just moved from Asterisk release 0.5.0 to CVS 2003-12-22, and after overcoming a few changes in my configuration, I encountered one problem that I couldn't shake that was working fine in 0.5.0. It's the fax detection. I just have a simple extension setup like this: exten = fax,1,Dial(Zap/4,30,tr) exten = fax,2,Hangup in my main incoming context. This used to work fine, I don't think I ever had a false positive or negative, but now just about every call (possibly every call) that comes in when I've got that extension defined rolls to my fax machine on Zap/4 immediately. Uncomment OLD_DSP_ROUTINES near the top of dsp.c, recompile, install, and restart. The newer DSP routines are used to fix a type of signalling on EM lines. -Tilghman ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] fax detection: false positive
john lawler wrote: Hi guys, I just moved from Asterisk release 0.5.0 to CVS 2003-12-22, and after overcoming a few changes in my configuration, I encountered one problem that I couldn't shake that was working fine in 0.5.0. It's the fax detection. I just have a simple extension setup like this: exten = fax,1,Dial(Zap/4,30,tr) exten = fax,2,Hangup in my main incoming context. This used to work fine, I don't think I ever had a false positive or negative, but now just about every call (possibly every call) that comes in when I've got that extension defined rolls to my fax machine on Zap/4 immediately. I'm sure others have encountered this and I missed a post on some change to the configuration that might be causing this. Thanks for your help. jl The issue is in dsp.c. Check out an old copy of dsp.c and replace the one in your source tree. Then recompile. I am using the file from 12/08/03, as someone noted that this one works. ajh ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] fax detection: false positive
Thanks guys, that did the trick. Tilghman Lesher wrote: On Friday 26 December 2003 13:42, john lawler wrote: Hi guys, I just moved from Asterisk release 0.5.0 to CVS 2003-12-22, and after overcoming a few changes in my configuration, I encountered one problem that I couldn't shake that was working fine in 0.5.0. It's the fax detection. I just have a simple extension setup like this: exten = fax,1,Dial(Zap/4,30,tr) exten = fax,2,Hangup in my main incoming context. This used to work fine, I don't think I ever had a false positive or negative, but now just about every call (possibly every call) that comes in when I've got that extension defined rolls to my fax machine on Zap/4 immediately. Uncomment OLD_DSP_ROUTINES near the top of dsp.c, recompile, install, and restart. The newer DSP routines are used to fix a type of signalling on EM lines. -Tilghman ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax detection
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 05:34:43PM +1100, Alexander Romanov wrote: Is there any way to turn off fax detection? You can modify the chan_zap.c code to disable it. Martin patched my source and it solved the problem for me. Credit to the great Digium support team! in the CVS-09/24/03-20:51:12 built by [EMAIL PROTECTED] on a i686 running Linux that I have the patch on, here's the change: 3453/* Fax tone -- Handle and return NULL */ 3454if (!p-faxhandled) { 3455p-faxhandled++; 3456if (strcmp(ast-exten, fax)) { 3457if (ast_exists_extension(ast, ast-context, fax, 1, ast-callerid)) { Change to this: 3457if (0 ast_exists_extension(ast, ast-context, fax, 1, ast-callerid)) { Note, I added the line numbers, they aren't in the source. After you do this, cd /usr/src/asterisk make clean ; make install You will have to stop asterisk and reload your zap drivers, restart * and you will no longer have fax detection. Actually, you will still see the fax signals in the logs, but * will not try to change to the fax extension. Walker -- DataCrest, Inc. -- Technically Superior ** Walker Haddock http://www.datacrest.com DataCrest, Inc.e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1634A Montgomery Hwy.phone: 1-888-941-3282, 1-205-335-8589 Birmingham, AL 35216 fax: 1-205-823-7838 *** ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fax detection
On Wednesday 17 December 2003 00:34, Alexander Romanov wrote: Is there any way to turn off fax detection? Don't create a fax extension. -Tilghman ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users