Re: lack of the development in Survive the Wild and other issues

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Re: lack of the development in Survive the Wild and other issues

I already said, STOP! Stop fighting here!The discussion is going off topic to fighting and insulting people.I make it clear:I never wanted to blame, insult or offend any people. I'm sorry if I've hurt somebody.People have their own opinions and thoughts about STW, and as far as you are writing about the game itself and not insulting people, you must be free to discuss about the game.When you start playing the game first time, it is really great and there are lots of things to do.And there are lots of nice challenges, like climbing up the mountain or finding your way through the maze.But after you have collected all the stuff and explored all the maps, there is not so much to do.When you have all the stuff, it is too easy to survive.I have nothing against the natural disasters as far as you have a chance to survive from them - I mean that they are not so strong that they kill everybody on the map where they hit.<
 p>And there are people who don't like to start to pk against other people.Violence is not what I wish in this game.There is a huge selection of different weapons and for me that looks very unrealistic when you think about the name of the game.For me that looks more like a fighting game.Sam, of course it is your game and you can do whatever you want.But for me survive the wild would mean rather surviving from the attacks of lions, hyenas or rhinos, or finding right plants to cure diseases,  than seeing people collecting and asking different weapons and killing others or destroying shelters.Coding animals, well, I saw admins can create new items in the game.There was a bird inside a special shelter some months ago.If you combine it with some bird sound, you already have an animal which can sing and which you can track.I suppose it is possible to make new animals by using part of the code which you wrote for the existing a
 nimals, and then change the properties, parameters, sounds and movement if needed.To make it short: I hope there will be more things related to the nature, plants and animals in the future, than those things which you can use to kill other people.And that there will be more activities, challenges or work to do.There would be already a much more fun if you could make your own shelter map. I really enjoyed that small maze in a special shelter which one of the admins made a few months ago The competitions which pheerblue kept a few months ago were very great!They were challenging and they had nothing to do with pk.I hope there will be something new in STW which is not related to pk or fighting. And that you will have more chances to make something creative.

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Re: lack of the development in Survive the Wild and other issues

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hi everyone. This is rediculess that you are fighting with each other like childrenand this topic was about  lacking in development of STW,  but This topic was running to a wrong place. I think admins are not business to development of STW as much as you guise were involved with it. But sam tupy got away from those out of topics and he actually spoke about the main topic (lacking of development of STW). And well me, Myself prefer mager updates instead of those little ones that we had around 2015.And lastly, I must help a fiew guise around this comunity: There is a plain fact here. If you don't like a game, Or if you have problems with players around the game I mentioned above, You simply may delete the game from your hard drive or even deleting a game is hard to do for you, No problem. You may not update the games like STW that need always the latest version to play, Just like what i did and the reason is that I have problems with some players arou
 nd the game so I prefer not to play the game. You need to beleave, And accept this that this way doesn't break respects between you and that game's developer because this is not only us. Even in the main stream comunity, People leave games or softwares that they get board from. And at those people that have (Or hait) The saddisfaction keepers (Or flatterings), Try not to be like them! This is the trueth that none of us can force them to stop doing that because that is their own life and they even may rooin their life and that is none of our business. Just the simplest and the only thing that we can do is trying not to be like them, Not to be known as a person like them and we need to agree that messing around with such people won't change their personality.And at very very last, Want to say that I didn't mean a specefick person here.

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Re: lack of the development in Survive the Wild and other issues

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Hi everyone. I just have read the sam's post and well, I pressed enter on thumbs up. Sorry for being harsh but Sam was not in a same line with you guise. even if we asoom that sam was not right and he has falts and lacking in development of STW, This topic was running to a wrong place. I think admins are not business to development of STW as much as you guise were involved with it. But sam tupy got away from those out of topics and he actually spoke about the main topic (lacking of development of STW). And well me, Myself prefer mager updates instead of those little ones that we had around 2015.And lastly, I must help a fiew guise around this comunity: There is a plain fact here. If you don't like a game, Or if you have problems with players around the game I mentioned above, You simply may delete the game from your hard drive or even deleting a game is hard to do for you, No problem. You may not update the games like STW that need always the latest version t
 o play, Just like what i did and the reason is that I have problems with some players around the game so I prefer not to play the game. You need to beleave, And accept this that this way doesn't break respects between you and that game's developer because this is not only us. Even in the main stream comunity, People leave games or softwares that they get board from. And at those people that have (Or hait) The saddisfaction keepers (Or flatterings), Try not to be like them! This is the trueth that none of us can force them to stop doing that because that is their own life and they even may rooin their life and that is none of our business. Just the simplest and the only thing that we can do is trying not to be like them, Not to be known as a person like them and we need to agree that messing around with such people won't change their personality.And at very very last, Want to say that I didn't mean a specefick person here.

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Re: lack of the development in Survive the Wild and other issues

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I'll post 1 more time to this topic and leave it at this. I just wanted to apologize for more things. I've been a dick through out this entire topic, and I just wanted to apologize for being a complete jackass to the people running the game. I'm not gonna pick sides, but I was disrespectful to the people who put time and money into this game, and I apologize for that. I just want the arguing to stop. Lets try to mention good things about the game now that we got all this negativity out. I like the fact that the people working on this game are trying their best to fix as much as they can.

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Re: lack of the development in Survive the Wild and other issues

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I'll post 1 more time to this topic and leave it at this. I just wanted to apologize for more things. I've been a dick through out this entire topic, and I just wanted to apologize for being a complete jackass to the people running the game. I'm not gonna pick sides, but I was disrespectful to the people who put time and money into this game, and I apologize for that.

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Re: lack of the development in Survive the Wild and other issues

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hey sam, in the stw topic in the new games forum i did suggest adding farm animals and stuff to make your own farm to help you survive in the game and to add more fun to the game. but how you decide and if you decide to add farm animals, farm stuff, domestic animals, guard dogs and stuff that's up to you. I just thought it would be a good idea for the game down the road so thought I'd post it. now as soon as blair technology group gets my decent laptop back to me repaired and working then I can finally play the stw game again. so I'm waiting on that.

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Re: lack of the development in Survive the Wild and other issues

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It's good to see finally someone getting the sense. And the other named Steve, is defeated out. I hope there ain't going to be any match and drama, my hands still don't feel tired to write. The truth doesn't tire anyone, it's just when we give up we regret it.

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Re: lack of the development in Survive the Wild and other issues

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Lol really? Those bucks you're talking about is surely a support. I won't deny that they benefit me, but if I hate someone I will surely not buy any of their sales. That's all. Sam, I wish you all the best in your life, from all my heart. Criticism doesn't mean hate guys, but I don't know why this comunity has really this sensitivity.SmokeJay, I really admire your work making all of those good competitions with those exciting rewards. Continue this great work, and I hope you admins become beter and better.

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Re: lack of the development in Survive the Wild and other issues

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I did never request for words that came out of nothingness. The bucks you spent were for yourself and Sam didn't force anyone to purchase, although it helps maintaining the game and server in general, but it wasn't you the only one spending them. Akilor or Smoke for example, they always buy tons of shit but no one of them said: OH yeah we spent bucks to support Sam.

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Re: lack of the development in Survive the Wild and other issues

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Cocoa wrote:Well Sam, I gave you a thumbs up on your post as you deserve it. As well as Amine. Let's just hope that haters won't think I did it for someone's satisfaction, I could have given it to Steve or Muhammad if they were everr right.And we were. It's your opinion that being us not right. Do you know that I agree with Sam Tupy in most of his post? Yeah, lots, and lots of products contain bugs, and every single product should contain bugs so you don't have the right to blame him about that. But my point of view isn't related to bugs or the like, it's about development and management and how a lot of blindies enjoy being them in the boss position. I don't want to go into more details, since I've really had enough of this topic. You know? Just relax, stw is the best game in the world, it's even better than minecraft itself. I hope you dark delete all the ga
 mes from the db and keep stw alone, since it covers everything regarding gaming. Are you happy now?If I hate Sam, why would I even consider supporting him by purchasing from the stw store, as I've spent tens of bucks on it before?What a really strange people that don't know how to differentiate between hate and criticism. So as I told you, the great stw is the best in the world, and no one can create a game like it. No mainstream ones, nor even any of the great rpg's from audio games or the other ones. No no no, stw and nothing but stw. So yeah, stay happy.

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Re: lack of the development in Survive the Wild and other issues

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Cocoa wrote:Well Sam, I gave you a thumbs up on your post as you deserve it. As well as Amine. Let's just hope that haters won't think I did it for someone's satisfaction, I could have given it to Steve or Muhammad if they were everr right.And we were. It's your opinion that being us not right. Do you know that I agree with Sam Tupy in most of his post, yeah, lots, and lots of products contain bugs, and every single product should contain bugs so you don't have the right to blame him about that. But my point of view isn't related to bugs or the like, it's about development and management and how a lot of blindies enjoy being them in the boss position. I don't want to go into more details, since I've really had enough of this topic. You know? Just relax, stw is the best game in the world, it's even better than minecraft itself. I hope you dark delete all the ga
 mes from the db and keep stw alone, since it covers everything regarding gaming. Are you happy now?If I hate Sam, why would I even consider supporting him by purchasing from the stw store, as I've spent tens of bucks on it before?What a really strange people that don't know how to differentiate between hate and criticism. So as I told you, the great stw is the best in the world, and no one can create a game like it. No mainstream ones, nor even any of the great rpg's from audio games or the other ones. No no no, stw and nothing but stw. So yeah, stay happy.

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hi,one thing before i continue doing something better in my life. If you want to complain about the lack of developement of stw, then better complain about something else, for instance manamon or other vg store games. He abandones them  like a sock thats old...MOVE ON

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Well Sam, I gave you a thumbs up on your post as you deserve it. As well as Amine. Let's just hope that haters won't think I did it for someone's satisfaction, I could have given it to Steve or Muhammad if they were everr right.

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powerful wrote:the truth about this kid, he developed his games to make people happy from him. how ever, he developed his games for him, not for people. this kid is very arrogant, and he's Not worth respect.and those admins like him.so, i advice anyone here don't trust sam.Yeah yeah I heard that tons of times before, but if Sam makes games for himself why does he even bother developing them? Why were there around 113 players on STW 2 days ago?why are there almost 40 players on redspot everyday?Do you think you are a wise, and mature grandpa  calling people imatures?Give me a fucking break, you admitted and showed everyone that you are nothing of someone who clearly doesn't have any valid arguments to post here, come on, why don't you go do something productive better than talking about oh Sam is a child he can not develop games oh Sam is imature blah blah
  blah blah would you show a little bit of maturity yourself before talking about people.

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Re: lack of the development in Survive the Wild and other issues

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Ok Whoa whoa whoa, whoa, whoa. I think it's high time I step in here. This topic has gotten rediculis. I've been watching it for a while, and finally decided to post here my self. I won't go responding to peoples individual arguments or give names or... nothing like that, I'll just write about a couple random things I remember and put in a word of my own. I did not even come close to reading all of these posts, but just some random things. I remember a mension of unless it's more than a few lines of BGT I can't fix it so I'm not fit for developing games. And I guess apple is also not fit for developing phones because they have no voice over dictionaries, something many people have wanted for a while. seems so easy to code... Samsung is no longer fit for developing phones either because the note 7 exploded. It clearly proves with out a doubt that unless it's a couple pieces of plastic and a memory chip, Samsung has no idea what there do
 ing. Etc etc. Disasters... disasters... It keeps coming up. People are furious for some reason that admins spawn disasters and the game doesn't do it on it's own. As plenty of people have said, the game does not need to spawn disasters on maps that have no people, there needs to be people to stop random people from going offline... I already hear the screams of code a fix code a fix! Code a safeguard system! My simple answer is this. My game is only as good as the humans who create it, watch over it, and administrate it. Any amount of code me, or bill gates, or you guys arguing this point could make, can be cracked, and will be cracked. I hope you guys post your annoyance to microsoft's forums for the simple fact that there operating system will always have exploits. I hope you will go tell all of the windows developers that they have no write to be coding operating systems because they can always be hacked. Seriously, that kind of stuff is just... S
 orry but for me it doesn't make sense. You guys are frustrated that I have not updated the game in a while, and that there are some long standing bugs, like the look bug. Let me show you something. stw.bgt, 5060 lines. server.bgt, 9458 lines. That is exploding all includes, etc. Here, lets prove this even better. So I coded a simple script that goes threw the entire folder and accumulates the size of all the BGT scripts, and all of the lines. STW returned this. There are 30199 lines of code, and this project is 797 KB of code. This is all code managed by only me, and that does not include redspot or any other project that I may be working on. Hell, for all you know, I have not been working well on stw because I am working on another big game for you guys. Or possibly I am attempting to learn another language, so that I can use 3D audio libraries, proper GUI's... Who knows. Also, adding animals, doing this, doing that, this that what ever is n
 ot very hard to code. OK, please, if you may, I'd like an exact description of how my animal code works, and how a new animal is added. Please include detail. Having a hard time providing that? That's what I thought. Please, try stating what is fact, and opinion. I'd appreciate that. You have no idea what is hard or what is easy to code, because it's not your game, It's not code you have looked at. Either way, the plain truth is that I can not please everyone. There are going to always be some people who don't like the way I am doing things. There will always be people with something bad to say about me for a reason that the rest of us are not gonna understand. I urge my supporters who enjoy my games to let these people have there reasons. If someone has a problem, just get my attention directly. I know I suck at responding to messages, but if you try you'll reach me. I don't mind talking about peoples issues, but 20 people s
 aying there issues with the game at the same time and 20 + other people refuting what the haters are saying, is not the way to say it. The people saying bad things may have some very valid points, however this massive argument on the forum is not the way to properly be understood. Heard yes, but no one can understand you threw the uproar, even if it is only text. If I am unwilling to fix the thing you don't like, just go ahead and find another game. If you hate the iPhone, you switch to android and this is the same thing. I am a completely single person with several things to do. These games I make, there not my overriding passion. I do it as just another thing. Yes, one thing I enjoy doing, but also not something I will allow to take over my life. If I don't feel like coding my game for a week I won't code it. If you guys have a problem with that, I look forward to several new titles from several people with perfect tech support, administration systems, all around pe
 rfect game play. Because the people who complain about my games, when you make your own game fixing all the issues with mine, 

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powerful wrote:the truth about this kid, he developed his games to make people happy from him. how ever, he developed his games for him, not for people. this kid is very arrogant, and he's Not worth respect.and those admins like him.so, i advice anyone here don't trust sam.Well well, talk about generalization and the bad consequences it has. problem 1: you clearly have a problem with sam, and you absolutely have the right to "not like anyone" for any reason. But just think about it: if you scream, don't eat meat because i hate it, won't convince people to not eat meat anymore. So, either post something with proof why not to like some one, or just hit that delete button so we don't have to read this kind of (word to be self added)problem 2: admins, are just like everyone else, humans. So, unless humans are exactly and equally the same, in character, ed
 ucation, way of thinking... your statement is actually insultiv beyond acceptation.

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the truth about this kid, he developed his games to make people happy from him. how ever, he developed his games for him, not for people. this kid is very arrogant, and he's Not worth respect.and those admins like him.so, i advice anyone here don't trust sam.

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oh come on guysI always seriously got irritated  when this topic growing up, and stay on the top of the forum.one thing that I have to say, why you guys don't open  your eyes, ur..., your ears to be exact. and hear the truth?, I mean its   all loud and clear, you just have to accept it. wahahanothing will be change if you guys keep  blabbering  ich other, roflI just leave this game  around 2 month ago, I have enough with it  I have my personal opinion on this topic, but never mine.

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Who told you that I don't know anything about the game? Was, like you, kinda addicted to it previously and knew everything about it to break boredom. So yeah. My point of view didn't come out from nothing, but after a long career with the game.

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Does spending bucks mean something? And what if a human got 50 dfc and 1000 grenade. What on the earth will be changed? So if I buy tons of items from the store that means I am productive and I know everything about the game? Spending bucks, purchasing and whatsoever, is all called, PERSONAL OPINION. In case someone has some sight, I capitalized all the sentence so they can see it accurately.

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Who said that because someone is playing the game, that means that he's totally agree with you? Then I should be the first, because I play the game and even spened bucks on it. But truth can't be hidden, and problem is that you don't take criticism. Ok Cocoa then we also see that you're wrong in your thoughts regarding the game and Sam. And each one of us will continue blaming the other for being their point of view wrong. And life continues.

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@Muhammad Hajjaryou should know, those who have issues spend way more time posting or talking about something then those who don't. if i wanted i could post in stw hey, everyone come tell this guy why you love the game and you would have a dozen posts or more of people who decided to take the time to do it. the thing is, it is just the way humans work, there is no reason to post unless you have a problem. someone who loves the game isn't going to make a hundred posts about how they love the game. only those who have issues will do that. so of course you aren't going to see allot of posts of people talking about how good the game is. they don't need to, there are are lots of people that agree with them. in fact it would seem each person has a minimum of 112 people who agree with them because there were 113 players online yesterday.

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The collaborated group that includes Muhammad Hajjar, Steve, Garette and other complainers have got a wrong fact. Their truth is the following: Sam is under 18 and should not develop gamesWhy do you seriously care about some developer's age if the game is interesting. I played Swamp, and I didn't like it, but I don't know how old Aprone is, until I was told that he is 28 or even more. I went to STW, and sticked with it like 1 year and some, because I like it, and I didn't know how old Sam is, until I knew that he was 13 at that time.Admins shall not have abilities more than players.Then what are admins supposed to be? If there was no command to move someone from unknown area, then for what do we need an admin? Let's say the unknown area  got fixed, but the move command is still useful. For example when we started the PK event, Smoke had to move us. And if the event was about to start only in mainland, I'd just bitch about 
 it and say fuck off, I'm not participating in a map that is about 500 tiles where you can run as much as you want. But guess what? After all the lag they made in the map, things went well, and everything returned to its original. It wouldn't have been done if the move command didn't exist.OK so let's move from this, because talking about how you guys have a different wrong fact about Sam may take ages to descripe it one by one, and I think it would be a nonsensical waste of time since everyone knows how much you're against him.What did I punch? Keyboard? Not really, I didn't feel sorry for the time nor sad for typing some letters just to show people and not someone in specific. I didn't mention Muhammad Hajjar until he commented. There is nothing against having opinions, but if you want to be wrong, feel free, just you got to know what is the truth. I don't beg Sam to set me as an admin, even though many players requested me 
 to be, but. Fucking, understand it. Sam sets whoever he sees good for the matter, and me and him don't have a strong communication so player's opinions should not matter at all. He knows whom to set and not. I enjoy my current rank, Sam did not prevent me from doing something with my current rank. I did not force anyone to have my point of view, in fact, if you look at it, previous pages where you all were trying to convince others that your point of view is the only right one, and the rest is. Fucked up. But just as short as this, we replied, and got over it. Yes I say we, because we.Please, oh I beg you. Can you tell me and make me see the truth I'm missing? Come correct my rectal path so we will be equal.

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Cocoa wrote:There is a difference between defense and truth. The first is when you defend something because of how much you like it, without being abliged or whatsoever, and the second is the truth that everyone must be told to see. If Smoke-J, Amine, or anyone of the administrators and players defended or said something, it's certainly not to prove how right Smoke-J can be, but to show everyone the truth that they didn't know, without an exception, that thing applies on me too, as a normal player. OK, so let me sort it out. Admins are defending the game for Sam's satisfaction? Oh [[wow]], really? Did admins set Sam as a master, or he was the one that set them as admins. What to keep up? The game? Yeah, they are admins and that's what they are supposed to do. If there was an admin who didn't do a good job, I'd have said it in face, and even on the forum he can go to h really no matter who he or they could
  be. And if admins are defending Sam for his satisfaction, then why players are doing it? To get the rank? Yeah, to get the rank is what everyone thinks, just by defending a game that they play most of the precious time. Let's say 3 people or l-ess or probably even more, are defending the game for the rank and Sam's satisfaction. Then what about the others? Are they also defending the game for the rank? I might go now and see 40 players connected, if I ask them who likes STW? Does anyone defend STW for his sake or benefit? The answer would certainly be no, no, and no, the 40 connected players are there just because they like the game, otherwise they would have been here complaining about how the game goes so far, just because they do not know how to play it or they didn't play it from a long time so they say shit about it. Admins and players all have a reason to abandon playing, if Garette Turner wasn't demoted, he would still have been playing, and would not com
 plain about how fair the administration seems to be, but did anyone say Garette Turner worked hard and did not get Sam's satisfaction?  keep up being funny about something that no one of you knows. And the reason why we spend time writing on the forum is because we still have patience inside us to show everyone the things they doubt, or they things they didn't know before. The issue is not with STW, but people have a problem with Sam, Sam, Sam Sam, delete that, add that, give me that, take that, Sam Sam Sam? Releace an update, Sam please do that and this, OK I understand the frustration when no update is out, but don't you hope and expect something nice to come with the long updates absence? Or you chose to be hopeless because you want to be. Can you tell me how many players spam Sam on OOC with hi  Sam hi Sam, hello Sam what's up Sam, and if he changes 
 the channel they go to him on PM? Do they also don't like him, but they message him for the rank? I don't know what about others, but what I know is that I'm doing nothing for the rank, it can come to me at any moment and if it doesn't come, there will be  nothing much to lose in this life, just the fact is that I'll be continue playing and helping others with what they want as much as possible. Because I don't lose anything by helping them while I'm most of the time online. So if I write replies on the forum defending the game, you think Sam would pay attention to me and set me as an admin just because I defended his game? No, no no no, administration has to be fair and admins shall be chosen on trust/confidence, not by their looks and style of talking.Lol it can come? You see, your hopes of becoming an admin is pretty clear. And truth? Yeah, all of what you're punching the keyboards for from ages writing posts 
 trying to convince us is truth, but in your point of view. But in our point of you, it's not, and the opposite is the truth, and you can't force us to take yours.I really hate argueing, and I apologize if I offended any one here, I do really respect you all, including dear stw players and admins, and the whole of this comunity that I really love and friend. But you know, we may disagree in some views, and each one of us has the right to reply if have been directed by a post or some sorts. And sorry again if I sounded harsh, but as you have the right to stick to your own views, it's our right as well. Ok cocoa? Then, I hope you don't reply again saying that oh yes, but you aren't seeing the truth, because, we also see that you aren't seeing the truth.

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Amine wrote:Muhammad Hajjar wrote:[[wow]], stw admins, continue defending the game and Sam, try not to lose his satisfaction on you. You're doing a great job. You have a great place with Sam, so yeah, you're doing a great job keeping it up. Continue.The thing is that not only admins are defending STW, even some of the player base.Yes Amine you're right, you're totally right. Some of the players, some, not the majority.

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So I'm gunna do something I said I wouldn't do, by posting to this topic. I'm not going to be complaining though, I'm apologizing. When I last posted, it was around 4:00 in the morning, and I wasn't thinking clearly. I said you were lying about paying money and I accused you of being, "not generous," and for that, I apologize. I still stand my ground on a few things, but 2 of the points I made in my post were very invalid. I hope you accept my apology for the things I said.

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There is a difference between defense and truth. The first is when you defend something because of how much you like it, without being abliged or whatsoever, and the second is the truth that everyone must be told to see. If Smoke-J, Amine, or anyone of the administrators and players defended or said something, it's certainly not to prove how right Smoke-J can be, but to show everyone the truth that they didn't know, without an exception, that thing applies on me too, as a normal player. OK, so let me sort it out. Admins are defending the game for Sam's satisfaction? Oh [[wow]], really? Did admins set Sam as a master, or he was the one that set them as admins. What to keep up? The game? Yeah, they are admins and that's what they are supposed to do. If there was an admin who didn't do a good job, I'd have said it in face, and even on the forum he can go to h really no matter who he or they could be. And if admins are defending Sam for his satisfaction, 
 then why players are doing it? To get the rank? Yeah, to get the rank is what everyone thinks, just by defending a game that they play most of the precious time. Let's say 3 people or l-ess or probably even more, are defending the game for the rank and Sam's satisfaction. Then what about the others? Are they also defending the game for the rank? I might go now and see 40 players connected, if I ask them who likes STW? Does anyone defend STW for his sake or benefit? The answer would certainly be no, no, and no, the 40 connected players are there just because they like the game, otherwise they would have been here complaining about how the game goes so far, just because they do not know how to play it or they didn't play it from a long time so they say shit about it. Admins and players all have a reason to abandon playing, if Garette Turner wasn't demoted, he would still have been playing, and would not complain about how fair the administration seems to be, but di
 d anyone say Garette Turner worked hard and did not get Sam's satisfaction?  keep up being funny about something that no one of you knows. And the reason why we spend time writing on the forum is because we still have patience inside us to show everyone the things they doubt, or they things they didn't know before. The issue is not with STW, but people have a problem with Sam, Sam, Sam Sam, delete that, add that, give me that, take that, Sam Sam Sam? Releace an update, Sam please do that and this, OK I understand the frustration when no update is out, but don't you hope and expect something nice to come with the long updates absence? Or you chose to be hopeless because you want to be. Can you tell me how many players spam Sam on OOC with hi  Sam hi Sam, hello Sam what's up Sam, and if he changes the channel they go to him on PM? Do they also don't l
 ike him, but they message him for the rank? I don't know what about others, but what I know is that I'm doing nothing for the rank, it can come to me at any moment and if it doesn't come, there will be  nothing much to lose in this life, just the fact is that I'll be continue playing and helping others with what they want as much as possible. Because I don't lose anything by helping them while I'm most of the time online. So if I write replies on the forum defending the game, you think Sam would pay attention to me and set me as an admin just because I defended his game? No, no no no, administration has to be fair and admins shall be chosen on trust/confidence, not by their looks and style of talking.

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Muhammad Hajjar wrote:[[wow]], stw admins, continue defending the game and Sam, try not to lose his satisfaction on you. You're doing a great job. You have a great place with Sam, so yeah, you're doing a great job keeping it up. Continue.The thing is that not only admins are defending STW, even some of the player base.

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@Muhammad Hajjar lol if you knew how much i bitch at Sam and tell him when i think he is wrong or doing something wrong you wouldn't have that opinion. and no it isn't on some forum full of keyboard warriors, but actually talking to him. but feel free to think it, only folks who are around on team talk would hear it. and frankly you have the right to be wrong, no one can take that from you. I am he furthest thing from a yes man, in fact i suspect Sam sorta gets pissed at me for it.

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[[wow]], stw admins, continue defending the game and Sam, try not to lose his satisfaction on you. You're doing a great job. You have a great place with Sam, so yeah, you're doing a great job keeping it up. Continue.

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@67 your point is valid. For me, I am officially done posting on this thread regardless of any other topic that may be brought up, because as Roel said. Because so far as I dared to read after that it was simply more of the usual, I apparently don't know a thing about Survive the Wild and haven't played it at all, you know the average "We're not wrong, you just don't know" bit. Then, there was the usual shoot down of "a'h a'h a'h, you just don't know what you're talking about, you just need to get over yourself, you just need to develop real games etc" immature non admin like blabber.  I've already spoken my part on those two, so as far as I'm concerned those topics are done, -- and furthermore so are the other circulating matters I've already addressed. However if Smoke-Jay still wants to write such childish blather, he is free to do so, though I will no longer be responding. Let him think it mak
 es him look intelligent or whatever he feels when writing that.@Shotgunshell I would have to disagree with two of your points before I go though, and they are: 1. Smoke-Jay would indeed have had to pay for a competition like this, especially if he were to supply a winner with DFC packs as he did, not to mention whatever other items/rewards there were. 2. It is possible for players to give items to each other, but the rule imposed was that admins can't go round tacking values on to people's inventory, which is what the post was saying.

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@67 your point is valid. For me, I am officially done posting on this thread regardless of any other topic that may be brought up, because as Roel said. Because so far as I dared to read after that it was simply more of the usual, I apparently don't know a thing about Survive the Wild and haven't played it at all, you know the average "We're not wrong, you just don't know" bit. I've already spoken my part on that, so as far as I'm concerned that topic is done, -- and furthermore so are the other circulating matters I've already addressed.@Shotgunshell I would have to disagree with two of your points before I go though, and they are: 1. Smoke-Jay would indeed have had to pay for a competition like this, especially if he were to supply a winner with DFC packs, not to mention whatever other items/rewards there were. 2. It is possible for players to give items to each other, but the rule imposed was that admins can't go round tac
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shotgunshell wrote:Oh boy, I have a few posts right now that I need to talk about. Before I start, keep in mind that I'm just going based on what I've seen from these posts and posts from other topics similar to this 1. Here we go, lets get started on post 10."Life is not all about opinions. If you have your own opinion then it is yours, not mine nor Sam's opinion. Sam and admins have always been trying to prevent cheaters from doing and getting shit which they didn't work for, God knows what were they cheating in the tree houses, or come on you say, do you accept being under a tree house and I throw stuff over your head until you're dead? Or you'd later cry whine about how you died without PK flag on."Let me kick off by saying a very popular phrase. If you don't cheat, you don't try. That rule applies to being in the wild, a lot. While I think dropping things from the tr
 ee house shouldn't be possible, because there is ground under your feet and the branches should be able to slow the descent of the object, I don't think that tree houses should be disposed of all together."So, how can you have a shelter inside a watery ocean that is to say, in a paddle point where walking is disallowed? Or come on telling me that grass only accepts shelters, so what about if I drop something in an ocean and draw out my firestarter and burn it to make a fire inside an ocean, does that sound realistic for you?"No, not at all, and you're right about that. You should not be able to build shelters in the ocean.Post 12:"@shellman building tree houses was banned, yes, but let's think why. you fall from the mountain, so open your inventory and drop a plank, you are floating in air and don't lose much health or anything like that. then continue on your way. every time you fall just drop a plank, you're 
 safe. it is not taken out of the game forever, i've had discussions with sam on how he will bring it back so it works in a different way. just about everyone misses the ability to build tree houses with planks and blocks. and if i remember right you weren't too hapy when you got stuck in a block trap turned on pk and got grenaded nearly to death before you could log out, so it's a double edged sword i suppose."I agree with you so far, people drop planks in the air to prevent from falling and getting seriously hurt, and that was stopped because of it being a cheat. For a tree house to work, you need nails, and something for said nails to go into, for example, oh I don't know, maybe a tree? So yes, I get what you're saying. But wait, lets go back a little bit."and if i remember right you weren't too hapy when you got stuck in a block trap turned on pk and got grenaded nearly to death before you could log out, so it's a double 
 edged sword i suppose."Did you say grenaded? So, you can't drop planks in the air, but somehow, you can obtain grenades? That makes total sense, I mean who hasn't found a random grenade lying about in a birds nest before, right?Being grenaded to death because you turn on pk, when caught in a block trap doesn't mean you find grenades there, but that others trapped you inside a huge block of blocks, without any way to escape. The grenading to death was either caused by the trapped person due to nerves, or by those standing around when he finally got freed.shotgunshell wrote:"@shellman dropping grass in the ocean to put a shelter, aside from it being so completely unrealistic to be laughable, think of how people used that to chat? drop planks grass mud whatever in the ocean and it's a walkable and a bikable tile. so people would do that and just bike across the ocean. or
  drop them and a new player would be paddeling and get stuck on a random mud tile in the middle of the ocean, and have no clue why they can no longer paddle anymore or anything."Yet another point I agree with you on, you shouldn't be able to drop grass in the water and expect it to stay afloat, it should sink and you should never be able to grab it again. However, this is the last thing I'll be fully agreeing with you on for the rest of the post because of the following."@shellman you want to talk about the admins, and the old admins, this is just beautiful. let's i assume you mean people like naday, walter, rowan, bill, blaze, mariah. well with walter, yes everyone loved walter, but tell me 1 thing, just 1 single thing, what did he do for the game? he loved to give stuff away for free, you're new, hey have 100 bikes and 200 pop cans. well that shit don't fly anymore. it's survive the wild, the admins aren't allowed to copy 
 sam's inventory and start giving that stuff away. we have our own inventories, and we play with normal inventories like every other player in the game."Hold on just a second now. So you're trying to tell me that nobody's allowed to be generous in the game and you have to put up with the stuff that you can pick up off the ground. No, I don't think 

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shotgunshell wrote:Oh boy, I have a few posts right now that I need to talk about. Before I start, keep in mind that I'm just going based on what I've seen from these posts and posts from other topics similar to this 1. Here we go, lets get started on post 10."Life is not all about opinions. If you have your own opinion then it is yours, not mine nor Sam's opinion. Sam and admins have always been trying to prevent cheaters from doing and getting shit which they didn't work for, God knows what were they cheating in the tree houses, or come on you say, do you accept being under a tree house and I throw stuff over your head until you're dead? Or you'd later cry whine about how you died without PK flag on."Let me kick off by saying a very popular phrase. If you don't cheat, you don't try. That rule applies to being in the wild, a lot. While I think dropping things from the tr
 ee house shouldn't be possible, because there is ground under your feet and the branches should be able to slow the descent of the object, I don't think that tree houses should be disposed of all together."So, how can you have a shelter inside a watery ocean that is to say, in a paddle point where walking is disallowed? Or come on telling me that grass only accepts shelters, so what about if I drop something in an ocean and draw out my firestarter and burn it to make a fire inside an ocean, does that sound realistic for you?"No, not at all, and you're right about that. You should not be able to build shelters in the ocean.Post 12:"@shellman building tree houses was banned, yes, but let's think why. you fall from the mountain, so open your inventory and drop a plank, you are floating in air and don't lose much health or anything like that. then continue on your way. every time you fall just drop a plank, you're 
 safe. it is not taken out of the game forever, i've had discussions with sam on how he will bring it back so it works in a different way. just about everyone misses the ability to build tree houses with planks and blocks. and if i remember right you weren't too hapy when you got stuck in a block trap turned on pk and got grenaded nearly to death before you could log out, so it's a double edged sword i suppose."I agree with you so far, people drop planks in the air to prevent from falling and getting seriously hurt, and that was stopped because of it being a cheat. For a tree house to work, you need nails, and something for said nails to go into, for example, oh I don't know, maybe a tree? So yes, I get what you're saying. But wait, lets go back a little bit."and if i remember right you weren't too hapy when you got stuck in a block trap turned on pk and got grenaded nearly to death before you could log out, so it's a double 
 edged sword i suppose."Did you say grenaded? So, you can't drop planks in the air, but somehow, you can obtain grenades? That makes total sense, I mean who hasn't found a random grenade lying about in a birds nest before, right?Being grenaded to death because you turn on pk, when caught in a block trap doesn't mean you find grenades there, but that others trapped you inside a huge block of blocks, without any way to escape. The grenading to death was either caused by the trapped person due to nerves, or by those standing around when he finally got freed.shotgunshell wrote:"@shellman dropping grass in the ocean to put a shelter, aside from it being so completely unrealistic to be laughable, think of how people used that to chat? drop planks grass mud whatever in the ocean and it's a walkable and a bikable tile. so people would do that and just bike across the ocean. or
  drop them and a new player would be paddeling and get stuck on a random mud tile in the middle of the ocean, and have no clue why they can no longer paddle anymore or anything."Yet another point I agree with you on, you shouldn't be able to drop grass in the water and expect it to stay afloat, it should sink and you should never be able to grab it again. However, this is the last thing I'll be fully agreeing with you on for the rest of the post because of the following."@shellman you want to talk about the admins, and the old admins, this is just beautiful. let's i assume you mean people like naday, walter, rowan, bill, blaze, mariah. well with walter, yes everyone loved walter, but tell me 1 thing, just 1 single thing, what did he do for the game? he loved to give stuff away for free, you're new, hey have 100 bikes and 200 pop cans. well that shit don't fly anymore. it's survive the wild, the admins aren't allowed to copy 
 sam's inventory and start giving that stuff away. we have our own inventories, and we play with normal inventories like every other player in the game."Hold on just a second now. So you're trying to tell me that nobody's allowed to be generous in the game and you have to put up with the stuff that you can pick up off the ground. No, I don't think 

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@shotgunshell if i did not spend money, on something you once again don't know about. the prizes were from the stw store. and here, so you are aware, the winner was gatito and he chose the dfc pack for his prize.serv...@paypal.comSat, Apr 8, 2017 at 4:42 PMto: editedReply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show originalExternal images are not displayed.Display images below - Always display images from serv...@paypal.com   paypalApr 8, 2017 13:41:52 PDT Transaction ID: edited   Hello edited,You sent a payment of $9.99 USD to Sam Tupy(webmas...@samtupy.com)   It may take a few moments for this transaction to appear in your account.Merchant Sam Tupy webmas...@samtupy.comInstructions to merchant You haven't entered any instructions. Shipping address - confirmed editedShipping details The seller hasn’t provided any shipping details yet. Description Unit price Qty Amount stw_dream_death_free_card_pack Item# stw_DreamDFPack $9.99 USD 1 $9.99 USD Subtotal $9.99 USD Total $9.99 USD Payment $9.99 USD Payment sent to webmas...@samtupy.comIssues with this transaction?You have 180 days from the date of the transaction to open a dispute in the Resolution Center.Questions? Go to the Help Center at www.paypal.com/help.Please do not reply to this email. This mailbox is not monitored and you will not receive a response. For assistance, log in to your PayPal account and click Help in the top right corner of any PayPal page.You can receive plain text emails instead of HTML emails. To change your Notifications preferences, log in to your account, go to your Profile, and click My settings.   Copyright © 1999-2017 PayPal. All rights reserved.and @shotgunshell again,no people including admins can give stuff, but they can not use admin powers to assist them in giving those things. they can not use an admin command to move to that person, to move that person to them, or to create the item out of thin air using admin powers. and that includes copying someone else's inventory to get the items.and @the dwarfer or steve or whatever, just lol, you are amusing, keep complaining about games you don't play, we all know you are sooo smart and know everything, that's why you are not a developer of real games. end of it. some people need a ladder to get over themselves.

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If you call replying to someone who is complaining complaining itself then please someone kill me already.I am not  complaining but, as someone who plays stw, replying to someone who doesn't play it at all, who doesn't know even a bit of it, I guess you never played sence the sun system was added, to prove you that you are wrong, that you wouldn't complain about a game you don't play unless if you have issues with its developer, issues that aren't even related to STW itself.It's child's play,if they have issues or problems with no matter who, they start doing what so ever to make the guy look bad in front of everyone. And to prove that it is for children, it almost happens everyday at schoolI gave enough of valid arguments as it is, it's just you who wouldn't give up, why? Because of what I stayted above.And sorry if this came late, but mr shotgun shell or what ever, I just wanted to reply to a post you posted erlyer on this topic, you mentioned that almost all the players started leaving stwthere are currently 108 players online. they are: jotes-pk. ionut-pk. abol-pk. marro-pk. smoke-j. stiboly-pk. fredd-pk. rachunmarn-pk. alborz-pk. mahmood-pk. star''pk. JimmyDub. nokia. remi106. newbie churato. arterson. kierra-pk. danny-pk. nuckar-pk. Pinky-Berry. aamir-pk. newbie random_person. wightfall-pk. amber-pk. haruna10. apple. ali-pk. alexmarango. gatito-pk. Jevus-pk. samurai-pk. Clementine-PK. Burgg-pk. Little_Princess. Preacher-pk. jonathan. katnis-pk. newbie terror-pk. wenger. meriona-pk. lovguru-pk. vencedor-pk. kiara-pk. newbie yalnizefe. newbie ozuna. sito-pk. IceBurg. dijitalgüç. Szhmaynlath. guilla-pk. turkishtranslation. guilerme-pk. pepitopaloma. talhahh. sasuke. the-master. Apach. recording-pk. pika-pk. sava_pk. AnastasiyaUralbaeva. eemaan. KAMILA. Adil-PK. pheerblue-pk. akilor. aelin_fireheart. viper-pk. kusmuk. rimarjoe-pk. afo6578. enesmete-pk. naday-pk. saphir-pk. chris-pk. brisa-22. sofia-pk. Phoenix-pk. hamada. Julie. katil-pk. gustavo-pk. wiam-pk. Lucas-PK. francois-marais. Daiane-pk. Hamad-PK. i-love-pk. newbie polis. saman-pk. marilyn-pk. JohnnyLam. carolina. kautilya-pk. Julian. marck. admirante. Psikopat-pk. kelsey. judge-pk. blackout. krmz. Ruslanchik. osito-kiss. Cengiz-pk. *saeed. lord-pk. dj_clue.and not only those, it reached 114 later on but I didn't get to copy it cause of beeing busy.

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If you call replying to someone who is complaining complaining itself then please someone kill me already.I am not  complaining but, as someone who plays stw, replying to someone who doesn't play it at all, who doesn't know even a bit of it, I guess you never played sence the sun system was added, to prove you that you are wrong, that you wouldn't complain about a game you don't play unless if you have issues with its developer, issues that aren't even related to STW itself.It's child's play,if they have issues or problems with no matter who, they start doing what so ever to make the guy look bad in front of everyone. And to prove that it is for children, it almost happens everyday at schoolAnd sorry if this came late, but mr shotgun shell or what ever, I just wanted to reply to a post you posted erlyer on this topic, you mentioned that almost all the players started leaving stwthere are currently 108 players online. they are: jotes-pk. ionut-pk. abol-pk. marro-pk. smoke-j. stiboly-pk. fredd-pk. rachunmarn-pk. alborz-pk. mahmood-pk. star''pk. JimmyDub. nokia. remi106. newbie churato. arterson. kierra-pk. danny-pk. nuckar-pk. Pinky-Berry. aamir-pk. newbie random_person. wightfall-pk. amber-pk. haruna10. apple. ali-pk. alexmarango. gatito-pk. Jevus-pk. samurai-pk. Clementine-PK. Burgg-pk. Little_Princess. Preacher-pk. jonathan. katnis-pk. newbie terror-pk. wenger. meriona-pk. lovguru-pk. vencedor-pk. kiara-pk. newbie yalnizefe. newbie ozuna. sito-pk. IceBurg. dijitalgüç. Szhmaynlath. guilla-pk. turkishtranslation. guilerme-pk. pepitopaloma. talhahh. sasuke. the-master. Apach. recording-pk. pika-pk. sava_pk. AnastasiyaUralbaeva. eemaan. KAMILA. Adil-PK. pheerblue-pk. akilor. aelin_fireheart. viper-pk. kusmuk. rimarjoe-pk. afo6578. enesmete-pk. naday-pk. saphir-pk. chris-pk. brisa-22. sofia-pk. Phoenix-pk. hamada. Julie. katil-pk. gustavo-pk. wiam-pk. Lucas-PK. francois-marais. Daiane-pk. Hamad-PK. i-love-pk. newbie polis. saman-pk. marilyn-pk. JohnnyLam. carolina. kautilya-pk. Julian. marck. admirante. Psikopat-pk. kelsey. judge-pk. blackout. krmz. Ruslanchik. osito-kiss. Cengiz-pk. *saeed. lord-pk. dj_clue.

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I really don't see the point of complaining. Not because complaints might or might not be valid (I really don't know, because I haven't played much), but because there is no use complaining about something if you know it's not going to change. If you say Sam can't maintain a game properly, you're better off programming yourself, or helping in some other regard rather than waste your time complaining about something you have no control over.

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No that's right. Instead, you're complaining about the complaining of someone who (actually does) have some valid complaints at least about a game. That, and using the argument that I just don't know how any of it at all works. I can see why you're using that argument though, because otherwise you'd have to admit to being wrong.

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I am not wasting my time complaining about stuff, complains that don't even make senseI've been playing STW for what, a year and 7 months now. I know almost everything about the game, I'm not someone who hasn't played the game sence ever then came here to complain about a game he doesn't care of.

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@60 and 61 both are just simple examples of why I began complaining in the first place. Smoke-Jay anyway seems like one of those insecure dudes who's just like "Oh, I love proving people wrong!" (a quite accurate paraphrase of one of Shotgunshell's last quotations. And then the "I'm done with this topic, see ya on another topic where I can prove you wrong again". Welcome back to this topic on post 60, Smoke-Jay. Nice to see you here.Uh oh, post 60 has many inaccuracies just in the beginning. Crap, time to list them.1. I made a Podcast in 2015, so therefore it's assumed that the last time I played STW was in 2015. No, When that Podcast was created, I had no complaints about hardly anything in the game because it was new and there were, like, no issues I could see. I just logged in on that podcast to cut down a tree and attempt but fail at killing my friend.2. and clearly it is an issue with Sam, cause you have brought up poi
 nts you could have with lots of games you don't play but you only complain about it with Sam's games.No, because I've complained quite vigorously about Swamp, regarding its lack of updates and how people just want complainers to shut up and be grateful little blindies because, after all, they have a game to play, Right? I made multiple posts complaining about aspects of Swamp or some people involved in it or defending it. The only difference is, Swamp didn't have insecure little admins who felt they had to "Prove me wrong for all to see!" In fact, there was none of this "Well, you guys just make me want to take a break because of all of your wining" from Aprone following my post, though it may have occurred a lot later, I don't know. And then, in the Manamon topic, there was debate about things such as how Aaron Baker might be pushing evolution on people, or that he like some of these other commercial game developers for the blind j
 ust tosses out a game for a quick buck and doesn't bother to update it due to "college, school, life, obligations etc", and even people doing the horrible thing and complaining about the story itself. I guess this means those complainers over on Manamon's topic have personal beef with the infamous Aaron himself? Also, let's talk about Prometheus. There was some admin abuse and such going on a while back, to which I wrote a post containing a harsh rebuke. Now unless I have been communicating with an individual with the first name Prometheus and the last name Moo, I don't know him. By the way, Prometheus Moo, the first and last name of a person? I've never heard of that before.Oh wait, yeah, because that is probably not his name. And how do I know he's a he? How do I know it's one person? Yeah, I don't. But I still did complain about their game which I spent not too much time on... what a trip!And Smoke-jay, one more thing.
  These assumptions about how I complain just for attention and how it gives me some warm and fuzzy feeling that people are paying attention to me, yeah, that's rich talk coming from someone who made the point that he had more thumbs ups than I at the beginning of this thread. And this complaining about stuff I don't know about? 3. And then, there's this beauty right here.you do not play stw, true fact. you do not know how the game works anymore, true fact. you do not know any of the admins or how they work, true fact. you do not play other games, true fact. you only complain about stw, true fact. you do not go and complain about other games you do not play or know anything about, true fact. so this make sone wonder, all of these are true, so what is it? Makes me wonder how you know everything I've posted on this forum, every game I've ever played and complained about. What is it? I think that just maybe, Smoke-Jay's obsessed with someo
 ne he doesn't know, and has to project that on said person, stating that they are the one with the obsession.Well, there's actually hope for you Smoke Jay, because you're wrong, I do actually play and complain about other games. I'm a community member and a gamer. Thanks for sharing your vast knowledge with us all though.My conclusion, dude, you said you were done with this thread in post 52. Please just live by that post, because all you're doing now is making yourself look insecure, presumptuous, and contradictory. I can't say I haven't done the same for myself, because I'd be completely wrong. But for someone who's trying to make himself look like the mature, confident, leader who cares about his players and is fit to run a game, you're doing quite a bad job. Move along now, and please try not to dig yourself deeper. Trust me, you're not making yourself look any more intelligent, - though if you wish go ahe
 ad and count your thumbs up ratio to mine, and come back with that. Surely you'll have such a concrete argument then, eh?As for me, I'm going to log off and have a talk with my not so good friend Aminiel who I've known for 

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One last point though Amine and others who've said this, why waste time posting on this thread?No seriously, I'm asking you your own question.

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@60 and 61 both are just simple examples of why I began complaining in the first place. Smoke-Jay anyway seems like one of those insecure dudes who's just like "Oh, I love proving people wrong!" (a quite accurate paraphrase of one of Shotgunshell's last quotations. And then the "I'm done with this topic, see ya on another topic where I can prove you wrong again". Welcome back to this topic on post 60, Smoke-Jay. Nice to see you here.Uh oh, post 60 has many inaccuracies just in the beginning. Crap, time to list them.1. I made a Podcast in 2015, so therefore it's assumed that the last time I played STW was in 2015. No, When that Podcast was created, I had no complaints about hardly anything in the game because it was new and there were, like, no issues I could see. I just logged in on that podcast to cut down a tree and attempt but fail at killing my friend.2. and clearly it is an issue with Sam, cause you have brought up poi
 nts you could have with lots of games you don't play but you only complain about it with Sam's games.No, because I've complained quite vigorously about Swamp, regarding its lack of updates and how people just want complainers to shut up and be grateful little blindies because, after all, they have a game to play, Right? I made multiple posts complaining about aspects of Swamp or some people involved in it or defending it. The only difference is, Swamp didn't have insecure little admins who felt they had to "Prove me wrong for all to see!" In fact, there was none of this "Well, you guys just make me want to take a break because of all of your wining" from Aprone following my post, though it may have occurred a lot later, I don't know. And then, in the Manamon topic, there was debate about things such as how Aaron Baker might be pushing evolution on people, or that he like some of these other commercial game developers for the blind j
 ust tosses out a game for a quick buck and doesn't bother to update it due to "college, school, life, obligations etc", and even people doing the horrible thing and complaining about the story itself. I guess this means those complainers over on Manamon's topic have personal beef with the infamous Aaron himself? Also, let's talk about Prometheus. There was some admin abuse and such going on a while back, to which I wrote a post containing a harsh rebuke. Now unless I have been communicating with an individual with the first name Prometheus and the last name Moo, I don't know him. By the way, Prometheus Moo, the first and last name of a person? I've never heard of that before.Oh wait, yeah, because that is probably not his name. And how do I know he's a he? How do I know it's one person? Yeah, I don't. But I still did complain about their game which I spent not too much time on... what a trip!And Smoke-jay, one more thing.
  These assumptions about how I complain just for attention and how it gives me some warm and fuzzy feeling that people are paying attention to me, yeah, that's rich talk coming from someone who made the point that he had more thumbs ups than I at the beginning of this thread. And this complaining about stuff I don't know about? 3. And then, there's this beauty right here.you do not play stw, true fact. you do not know how the game works anymore, true fact. you do not know any of the admins or how they work, true fact. you do not play other games, true fact. you only complain about stw, true fact. you do not go and complain about other games you do not play or know anything about, true fact. so this make sone wonder, all of these are true, so what is it? Makes me wonder how you know everything I've posted on this forum, every game I've ever played and complained about. What is it? I think that just maybe, Smoke-Jay's obsessed with someo
 ne he doesn't know, and has to project that on said person, stating that they are the one with the obsession.Well, there's actually hope for you Smoke Jay, because you're wrong, I do actually play and complain about other games. I'm a community member and a gamer. Thanks for sharing your vast knowledge with us all though.My conclusion, dude, you said you were done with this thread in post 52. Please just live by that post, because all you're doing now is making yourself look insecure, presumptuous, and contradictory. I can't say I haven't done the same for myself, because I'd be completely wrong. But for someone who's trying to make himself look like the mature, confident, leader who cares about his players and is fit to run a game, you're doing quite a bad job. Move along now, and please try not to dig yourself deeper. Trust me, you're not making yourself look any more intelligent, - though if you wish go ahe
 ad and count your thumbs up ratio to mine, and come back with that. Surely you'll have such a concrete argument then, eh?As for me, I'm going to log off and have a talk with my not so good friend Aminiel who I've known for 

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@60 and 61 both are just simple examples of why I began complaining in the first place. Smoke-Jay anyway seems like one of those insecure dudes who's just like "Oh, I love proving people wrong!" (a quite accurate paraphrase of one of Shotgunshell's last quotations. And then the "I'm done with this topic, see ya on another topic where I can prove you wrong again". Welcome back to this topic on post 60, Smoke-Jay. Nice to see you here.Uh oh, post 60 has many inaccuracies just in the beginning. Crap, time to list them.1. I made a Podcast in 2015, so therefore it's assumed that the last time I played STW was in 2015. No, When that Podcast was created, I had no complaints about hardly anything in the game because it was new and there were, like, no issues I could see. I just logged in on that podcast to cut down a tree and attempt but fail at killing my friend.2. and clearly it is an issue with Sam, cause you have brought up poi
 nts you could have with lots of games you don't play but you only complain about it with Sam's games.No, because I've complained quit vigorously about Swamp, regarding its lack of updates and how people just want complainers to shut up and be grateful little blindies because, after all, they have a game to play, riiight? I made multiple posts complaining about aspects of Swamp or some people involved in it or defending it. The only difference is, Swamp didn't have insecure little admins who felt they had to "Prove me wrong for all to see!" In fact, there was none of this "Well, you guys just make me want to take a break because of all of your wining" from Aprone following my post, though it may have occurred a lot later, I don't know. And then, in the Manamon topic, there was debate about things such as how Aaron Baker might be pushing evolution on people, or that he like some of these other commercial game developers for the bl
 ind just tosses out a game for a quick buck and doesn't bother to update it due to "college, school, life, obligations etc". I guess this means those complainers over on Manamon's topic have personal beef with the infamous Aaron himself? Also, let's talk about Prometheus. There was some admin abuse and such going on a while back, to which I wrote a post containing a harsh rebuke. Now unless I have been communicating with an individual with the first name Prometheus and the last name Moo, I don't know him. By the way, Prometheus Moo, the first and last name of a person? I've never heard of that before.Oh wait, yeah, because that is probably not his name. And how do I know he's a he? How do I know it's one person? Yeah, I don't. But I still did complain about their game which I spent not too much time on... what a trip!And Smoke-jay, one more thing. These assumptions about how I complain just for attention and how it gives 
 me some warm and fuzzy feeling that people are paying attention to me, yeah, that's rich talk coming from someone who made the point that he had more thumbs ups than I at the beginning of this thread. And this complaining about stuff I don't know about? And then, there's this beauty right here.you do not play stw, true fact. you do not know how the game works anymore, true fact. you do not know any of the admins or how they work, true fact. you do not play other games, true fact. you only complain about stw, true fact. you do not go and complain about other games you do not play or know anything about, true fact. so this make sone wonder, all of these are true, so what is it? I don't even believe I have to explain what this right here is. It is simply my hope you can figure out the contradiction and stupidity therein.My conclusion, dude, you said you were done with this thread in post 52. Please just live by that post, because all you
 39;re doing now is making yourself look insecure, presumptuous, and contradictory. I can't say I haven't done the same for myself, because I'd be completely wrong. But for someone who's trying to make himself look like the mature, confident, leader who cares about his players and is fit to run a game, you're doing quite a bad job. Move along now, and please try not to dig yourself deeper. Trust me, you're not making yourself look any more intelligent, - though if you wish go ahead and count your thumbs up ratio to mine, and come back with that. Surely you'll have such a concrete argument then, eh?As for me, I'm going to log off and have a talk with my not so good friend Aminiel who I've known for years and has hurt me so bad as a friend. Obviously you know this because I have complained on a lot of the Playroom related topics too.Oh wait no you don't, because I've never said a word to Aminiel in person!

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@ShotgunshellSo you mean that admins are allowed to copy Sam's inventory then go keep all the shit for themselves and play with it?Just think about it, wouldn't that be unfair, cheating all that sorts of stuff? Getting what you never worked for for free, it's just like someone called GarrettTurner or what so ever was giving some people the advantage by setting their health to over a million etc, guess what he got? Demotion, he lived the shortest admin life on STW.setting health to 100, copying invs, doesn't matter you give or not, you'll stil go kill animals with that stuff, pk with it, stuff that you never spent time or effort to get, stuff that's never been yours.About smoke-j spending money on the game, why not ask Sam about it? Care or not, believe or not, it's not like that is going to kill him.if you aren't playing the game or you currently don't, why are you wasting time replying here on the foru
 ms. Or is it just like the case of our Steve? I believe that's it

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Oh boy, I have a few posts right now that I need to talk about. Before I start, keep in mind that I'm just going based on what I've seen from these posts and posts from other topics similar to this 1. Here we go, lets get started on post 10."Life is not all about opinions. If you have your own opinion then it is yours, not mine nor Sam's opinion. Sam and admins have always been trying to prevent cheaters from doing and getting shit which they didn't work for, God knows what were they cheating in the tree houses, or come on you say, do you accept being under a tree house and I throw stuff over your head until you're dead? Or you'd later cry whine about how you died without PK flag on."Let me kick off by saying a very popular phrase. If you don't cheat, you don't try. That rule applies to being in the wild, a lot. While I think dropping things from the tree house shouldn't be possible, because there is ground under
  your feet and the branches should be able to slow the descent of the object, I don't think that tree houses should be disposed of all together."So, how can you have a shelter inside a watery ocean that is to say, in a paddle point where walking is disallowed? Or come on telling me that grass only accepts shelters, so what about if I drop something in an ocean and draw out my firestarter and burn it to make a fire inside an ocean, does that sound realistic for you?"No, not at all, and you're right about that. You should not be able to build shelters in the ocean.Post 12:"@shellman building tree houses was banned, yes, but let's think why. you fall from the mountain, so open your inventory and drop a plank, you are floating in air and don't lose much health or anything like that. then continue on your way. every time you fall just drop a plank, you're safe. it is not taken out of the game forever, i've had discu
 ssions with sam on how he will bring it back so it works in a different way. just about everyone misses the ability to build tree houses with planks and blocks. and if i remember right you weren't too hapy when you got stuck in a block trap turned on pk and got grenaded nearly to death before you could log out, so it's a double edged sword i suppose."I agree with you so far, people drop planks in the air to prevent from falling and getting seriously hurt, and that was stopped because of it being a cheat. For a tree house to work, you need nails, and something for said nails to go into, for example, oh I don't know, maybe a tree? So yes, I get what you're saying. But wait, lets go back a little bit."and if i remember right you weren't too hapy when you got stuck in a block trap turned on pk and got grenaded nearly to death before you could log out, so it's a double edged sword i suppose."Did you say grenaded? So, you c
 an't drop planks in the air, but somehow, you can obtain grenades? That makes total sense, I mean who hasn't found a random grenade lying about in a birds nest before, right?"@shellman dropping grass in the ocean to put a shelter, aside from it being so completely unrealistic to be laughable, think of how people used that to chat? drop planks grass mud whatever in the ocean and it's a walkable and a bikable tile. so people would do that and just bike across the ocean. or drop them and a new player would be paddeling and get stuck on a random mud tile in the middle of the ocean, and have no clue why they can no longer paddle anymore or anything."Yet another point I agree with you on, you shouldn't be able to drop grass in the water and expect it to stay afloat, it should sink and you should never be able to grab it again. However, this is the last thing I'll be fully agreeing with you on for the rest of the post because of the followin
 g."@shellman you want to talk about the admins, and the old admins, this is just beautiful. let's i assume you mean people like naday, walter, rowan, bill, blaze, mariah. well with walter, yes everyone loved walter, but tell me 1 thing, just 1 single thing, what did he do for the game? he loved to give stuff away for free, you're new, hey have 100 bikes and 200 pop cans. well that shit don't fly anymore. it's survive the wild, the admins aren't allowed to copy sam's inventory and start giving that stuff away. we have our own inventories, and we play with normal inventories like every other player in the game."Hold on just a second now. So you're trying to tell me that nobody's allowed to be generous in the game and you have to put up with the stuff that you can pick up off the ground. No, I don't think people should copy Sams inventory, or anyone else's for that matter, but I also don't think that people 
 should have to keep stuff to theirselves if they happen to feel nice enough to give something to someone, which is what it looks like you're saying. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about this though."@shotgunshell lol, you do what every other person who has 

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of course i reply steve/The Dwarfer, so everyone can see how incorrect you are. a podcast from 2015, how cute, nice to see how up to date you are, it's 2017 not 2015. stw is not the same game with the same people it was in 2015, but once again, you would not know that because you don't play it. and clearly it is an issue with Sam, cause you have brought up points you could have with lots of games you don't play but you only complain about it with Sam's games. of course you don't understand this, but anyone else reading does. and you didn't take it to twitter to tell sam he needs to grow up, and that he doesn't know how to make games, only code. i am paraphrasing, but it's all there on twitter, unless you have to delete the tweets like you had to change your name here.and i agree with akilor, since you are so smart, you should go make a game even remotely as detailed as one of Sam's. then go manage it the way you want and see how it goes. this should be no problem since you are a self declared genius, and a "jokular, intelligent “Programmer". i will be awaiting your big release. you seem to know exactly how to run a game and write one, so i don't know why you haven't already made one. and no, i don't count little offline single player games, i mean a real one.and oh my, the real world, well i hate to break it to you, but the real world isn't where people make up stuff, tell lies, and everyone sits back and writes a reply on a forum. that is the modern snowflake generation we are all having to live through now. there is a reason people talk much more shit online then in the real world. and of course you have a issue with a specific person who develops. let me lay this out for you for the second time in this post and the millionth time in these forums. you do not play stw, true fact. you do not know how the game works anymore, true fact. you do not know any of the admins or how they work, true fact. you do not play other games, true fact. you only complain about stw, true fact. you do not go and complain about other games you do not play or know anything about, true fact. so this make sone wonder, all of these are true, so what is it? do you complain about rtr all the time on the forums, do you complain about swamp all the time on the forums, do you complain about castaways all the time on the forums. now your answers. if yes, you do complain about these games you don't play then it is not an issue with sam but rather an issue with shit you know nothing about. you just like to complain for attention cause it fills you with a warm fuzzy feeling knowing someone is paying attention to you. if the answer is no  you don't complain about other games you don't play, only stw, then clearly it is an issue with the developer. i would be more likely to believe the second because you also have to complain about redspot. and again, i do not write this for you, but for everyone else who reads this so they can understand the truth about you. there is clearly no hope of you seeing it, so others can. and the best thing is you just keep writing and digging yourself in a deeper hole, it's rather entertaining.

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Nowadays the admingun has been demoted from cheater killer to an (illegal shelter) destroyer, and more or less a decoration item. Earlyer, when stw was non stop pk, (or so understand) it was used to kill off cheating people, but since pk came into play, and since there's jail and bans etc, there's really no need for it to kill people. It's kept though, for when there's a shelter illegally placed, or for when there are admins wanting to fight for fun etc... You'd have to look on anyaudio to find something stw and admin gun related, but that short little fragment was actually as close to the truth as things can get: we can't use it under any sircumstance in pk (unless it's for fun, and with another admin) try that once on a player, and the trumpets will sound shortly along with the message "had a rank change and has been moved to player..." and maybe even, the admin in question, having to deal with "asking for a reverse ban"...<
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Akilor, I do respect your point of you, and respect you as well. I might be wrong in some things I expect. I have a question: what's the admingun for? Is it also for administration? Sorry I don't want to sound that provocatively stubborn, but I'd just like to know. According to my surviving the wild career  Akilor, you're an awesome admin that your administration rank doesn't lead you to vanity. I didn't change my opinion though, there are really things that I don't know why admins are the only ones who're owning them, like the admingun which doesn't seem has any relationship to administration.

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And who do you think would have to apply those backups in case of something not entirely going as planned? You guessed it, admins.To break down the wall of hope that admins are so different from players, i'm sitting here in smoke's shelter, with 40 percent drunk and just doing what everyone else does: throwing around crap on the radio and having a messed up direction. All the items in my possession are either found on corpses, traided, or bought in the stw store just like everyone else. Besides, if you wouldn't check the rank, you wouldn't even know there was a difference between me and joe33, except if joe33 was a newbie. As soon as something comes up, i automatically revert to admin mode to help / fix it, then, once that done, i revert back to being a player just like everyone else. As was explained earlyer, having two accounts for that purpose is too difficult, and causes too much delay in things. It's not impossible, but if you need to watch some
 one on a "now" notice, by the time you enter the credentials, it might already be too late. Every time, i need to hide for a longer observation, or something admin related, I always pm myself with my last location, and that always means i come back where i came from, accurate up to the tile. In case of building maps, all statistics get sent by pm, and once map building is done, they get put back at the exact state they were in before the building started. It's as simple as that, there's no high power or what not involved, just plain logic.

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Ok? Then why not making a backing up feature, letting the admins restore you a backup if necessary? There are lots of ideas that can be easily applied, rather than distinguishing admins on players.

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Note to fellow admins: next time Muhammad Hajjar or severestormsteve1 die due to something that went rong, let's not use our so hated admin commands.Next time the server crashes for an unknown reason and several people have problems with their inventory because of that, let's not fix them. It seems there's still a serious missconception and lack of mindly ceperation between what "could" and what "does" happen. It's senceless to repeat what has been said in that regard, so no more in depth analyse / post on what happens if any admin crosses the line etc. And one more thing before I go ahead and do something else: if you have the opinion that someone isn't suited for developing an online multiplayer game, you know what? Open notepad and start coding, and we'll all be waiting what you can come up with, and how frequent updates happen, and how long it will take to fix bugs etc etc.I wish you the best o
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Hey Smoke-Jay,Clearly my opinion matters to you, else you wouldn't spend so much replying to it, telling me to stop replying back with it because I don't even play the game. Fact is I have played this game, and I stopped when this stuff was in its midst. In fact I have a podcast episode of an early version, from back in 2015 when I was still doing podcasts.And by the way: if you think me complaining about a game proves I have a personal issue with someone, I guess I'm not the delusional one here. And if no one cares about my opinion regarding this game, that's sure not proven by the fact that you absolutely insist upon replying, and with some stupid stuff too like what other games do I complain about? Or, what I post on Twitter (I have not brought any of this to Twitter by the way, so you can knock it off with that).Also, clearly I'm not the only one with a negative opinion who has shared it; there are several others who have done the sam
 e, only they don't reply to refutation as much as I have in this thread.Also, I guess if it's some kind of weird obsession that I call Sam wrong when I don't play his games as you say, is it not one as well that you call me wrong when my opinion doesn't matter? Because I don't know, you sure do seem to be replying to mostly all of my posts. That's more than someone who doesn't care would do.And admitting I am wrong? I can admit that I was wrong in assuming that there was not a log in Survive the Wild after you'd clearly stated there was one, but I am not wrong for believing admins should not have all of those abilities on a fully playable player account; it is simply an opinion of mine.Anyway, just go back to your piddling around on Survive the Wild. When you feel like you need to come back and devote your time to correcting and replying to all of someone's posts you really don't care about as you put it, feel free 
 to do so I guess. PS. Drop the fallacious argument that because I have a problem with how a game is being managed or coded, I have a personal issue with its developer. Get out in the real world some and you'll realize that issues with product management and person to person relationship level issues are not connected. But hey, keep making that up along with other excuses about someone having a weird obsession with complaining at Sam or whatever, to cover up the fact that there are important flaws already pointed out in the matters being discussed. @51, I don't think I should have to answer those points, because the answers are literally common sense. But if you think real hard on that and can't figure it out, google yourself some kind of book or whatever about managing collaborations and contracts, maybe even one about budgeting.

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No, he isn't saying that from a grudge because of problems between him and Sam. In fact, he's telling the truth. There's nothing actually between me personally and Sam, and I respect him, but truth be told. Yes, Sam is not for developing games, this isn't an offence, it's a point of view that's based on clear facts. And for admins having all of these magical and powerful capabilities to administrate? Lol, sorry, but your arguments aren't convincing for me, since there are tuns of online audio games and mainstream games with admins having only the ability to kick, ban and unban and they're going more than perfect. Sorry, but with stw's admins who have stuff and abilities that normal players don't have, or at least those who have paid accounts, stw is completely unfair in my opinion.

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Hey Smoke-Jay,Clearly my opinion matters to you, else you wouldn't spend so much replying to it, telling me to stop replying back with it because I don't even play the game. Fact is I have played this game, and I stopped when this stuff was in its midst. In fact I have a podcast episode of an early version, from back in 2015 when I was still doing podcasts.And by the way: if you think me complaining about a game proves I have a personal issue with someone, I guess I'm not the delusional one here. And if no one cares about my opinion regarding this game, that's sure not proven by the fact that you absolutely insist upon replying, and with some stupid stuff too like what other games do I complain about? Or, what I post on Twitter (I have not brought any of this to Twitter by the way, so you can knock it off with that).Also, clearly I'm not the only one with a negative opinion who has shared it; there are several others who have done the sam
 e, only they don't reply to refutation as much as I have in this thread.Also, I guess if it's some kind of weird obsession that I call Sam wrong when I don't play his games as you say, is it not one as well that you call me wrong when my opinion doesn't matter? Because I don't know, you sure do seem to be replying to mostly all of my posts. That's more than someone who doesn't care would do.And admitting I am wrong? I can admit that I was wrong in assuming that there was not a log in Survive the Wild after you'd clearly stated there was one, but I am not wrong for believing admins should not have all of those abilities on a fully playable player account; it is simply an opinion of mine.Anyway, just go back to your piddling around on Survive the Wild. When you feel like you need to come back and devote your time to correcting and replying to all of someone's posts you really don't care about as you put it, feel free 
 to do so I guess. PS. Drop the fallacious argument that because I have a problem with how a game is being managed or coded, I have a personal issue with its developer. Get out in the real world some and you'll realize that issues with product management and person to person relationship level issues are not connected. But hey, keep making that up along with other excuses about someone having a weird obsession with complaining at Sam or whatever, to cover up the fact that there are important flaws already pointed out in the matters being discussed. @51, I don't think I should have to answer those points, because the answers are literally common sense. But if you think real hard on that and can't figure it out, google yourself some kind of book or whatever about managing collaborations and contracts, maybe even budgeting.

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Hey Smoke-Jay,Clearly my opinion matters to you, else you wouldn't spend so much replying to it, telling me to stop replying back with it because I don't even play the game. Fact is I have played this game, and I stopped when this stuff was in its midst. In fact I have a podcast episode of an early version, from back in 2015 when I was still doing podcasts.And by the way: if you think me complaining about a game proves I have a personal issue with someone, I guess I'm not the delusional one here. And if no one cares about my opinion regarding this game, that's sure not proven by the fact that you absolutely insist upon replying, and with some stupid stuff too like what other games do I complain about? Or, what I post on Twitter (I have not brought any of this to Twitter by the way, so you can knock it off with that).Also, clearly I'm not the only one with a negative opinion who has shared it; there are several others who have done the sam
 e, only they don't reply to refutation as much as I have in this thread.Also, I guess if it's some kind of weird obsession that I call Sam wrong when I don't play his games as you say, is it not one as well that you call me wrong when my opinion doesn't matter? Because I don't know, you sure do seem to be replying to mostly all of my posts. That's more than someone who doesn't care would do.And admitting I am wrong? I can admit that I was wrong in assuming that there was not a log in Survive the Wild after you'd clearly stated there was one, but I am not wrong for believing admins should not have all of those abilities on a fully playable player account; it is simply an opinion of mine.Anyway, just go back to your piddling around on Survive the Wild. When you feel like you need to come back and devote your time to correcting and replying to all of someone's posts you really don't care about as you put it, feel free 
 to do so I guess. PS. Drop the fallacious argument that because I have a problem with how a game is being managed or coded, I have a personal issue with its developer. Get out in the real world some and you'll realize that issues with product management and person to person relationship level issues are not connected.@51, I don't think I should have to answer those points, because the answers are literally common sense. But if you think real hard on that and can't figure it out, google yourself some kind of book or whatever about managing collaborations and contracts, maybe even budgeting.

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No, he isn't saying that from a grudge because of problems between him and Sam. In fact, he's telling the truth. There's nothing actually between me personally and Sam, and I respect him, but truth be told. Yes, Sam is not for developing games, this isn't an offence, it's a point of view that's based on clear facts. And for admins having all of these magical and powerful capabilities to administrate? Lol, sorry, but your arguments aren't convincing for me, since there are tuns of online audio games and mainstream games with admins have only the ability to kick, ban and unban and they're going more than perfect. Sorry, but with stw's admins who have stuff and abilities that normal players don't have, or at least those who have paid accounts, stw is completely unfair in my opinion.

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Steve you don't play the game so why do you have to read the forums and post things only you care about? I am sure you are a very important person with time that is very valuable, at least it comes across you think so. the only thing you are doing, which is apparent to everyone reading this topic is point out to everyone you have a personal issue with Sam and no one else. you don't see it because you don't play the game, but everyone wonders what it is, how did one person hurt you so bad that you have to devote yourself to posting all this shit on the forums about his abilities as a developer and all the things he does wrong when you don't even consume what he develops. every reply you send says a couple things loud and clear. you have a problem with Sam, you refuse to admit when you are wrong, you reject reality and replace it with your own, you insist on knowing something you do not actually know anything about. a keyboard and an internet connection is a beau
 tiful thing is it not? your validity was put into suspect early on, and now it is gone, but yet you insist on not only posting on the forums but you have to go on twitter and insist how wrong Sam is about everything there too. this obsession is bordering on the weird, maybe you should just move on and go play those games which are developed and managed in a way you like. STW clearly is not, but you know what, i don't really care what you think about how the game is run cause it has a very high player base of people who are very happy with how the game is managed, and since when does the opinions of someone who does not know anything about the current game matter? or do you also go on windows 10 forums and post about all the things wrong with xp. either way, you have proven your point, and shown everyone what's really going on, at least we all know now, so that's good, and whenever i see a post i know how to read it. though you can try to make it sound like you know th
 e game you speak of, or the topic, actually you prove you do not the more you write. so for me this is the end of this topic, i actually play the game and live in reality, and therefore i know what the game is, how it is ran, and not what i want to believe. so until i see you in another topic and have to show you all the reasons you are wrong again for everyone to see, i'm out.ta ta, and lol, just simply lol, was greatly entertaining.

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severestormsteve1 wrote:In other words:1. Sam is not suitable for creating games because he has no budget for collaborations, and cannot work well with others. Well, he has a budget, but does not know how to properly balance it to meet all of his game's required needs, and is unwilling or unable to seek out better ways to deal with it.So if you don't want to risk source code getting jacked, or give out things you have worked hard for to acomplish, you're uncapable of developing? To build such a large game, and taking the tools with wich it was done to hights they might not even be ment for, is what i'd call being darn smart and intelligent, thus more than capable enough to do things, just limited in time by school and other important activities. From the moment homework can do itself automatically, and tests put themselves in your head... there would be more time for developping...2. Sam is not suited for game development because unless it's just a couple lines of BGT, he can't fix it, at least not now.Same school argument as above. Also, the more complex the server gets, the more lines of code can be found, and the harder debugging gets. Since stw is two years or older, that means two years or more of code, and that also means that finding things going rong harder by the line.3. Sam is not suited for creating a nature game because automatic natural disasters are bad because they are automatic and lack human judgement? Okay since when did natural disasters rely upon that? If they did, I guess Hitler is on the lower scale of bad, because many natural disasters happen on earth each year, killing millions upon millions of innocent people and shredding lives and families, so the dudes in control of that must be heartless monsters.B
 asically what I'm saying is this. Natural disasters being controlled by members of staff or whomever is about as realistic as grass tiles in the ocean.Sure, disasters automatically going off at random amounts of time, on random maps where no one would be playing at that moment, certainly is going to serve their purpose. Or, people will never try to claim they died due to a disaster because of the high health it took away, while there wasn't even a disaster. Oh and lets not forget that people won't go offline to escape disasters, certainly when there's no admin around to watch them. (but that can be done by the system: the system will know when someone went offline during a disaster or not) Sure, but would it know the difference if it was due to lag, due to cheap escaping etc? And certainly other players won't complain then that joe33 went offline while a disaster went, and they don't see anything happen etc...I absolutel
 y have nothing more to add, besides that calling someone incapable of developing a game just because he has school obligations, and because he doesn't want his hard worked on code to get elsewhere then own hands is just trying to throw a stone but missing by 20 miles. Also, to my mind, it reveals "i want the game to have updates, i want bugs to get fixed I I I I I I I and the rest can go bye"...

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In other words:1. Sam is not suitable for creating games because he has no budget for collaborations, and cannot work well with others. Well, he has a budget, but does not know how to properly balance it to meet all of his game's required needs, and is unwilling or unable to seek out better ways to deal with it.2. Sam is not suited for game development because unless it's just a couple lines of BGT, he can't fix it, at least not now.3. Sam is not suited for creating a nature game because automatic natural disasters are bad because they are automatic and lack human judgement? Okay since when did natural disasters rely upon that? If they did, I guess Hitler is on the lower scale of bad, because many natural disasters happen on earth each year, killing millions upon millions of innocent people and shredding lives and families, so the dudes in control of that must be heartless monsters.Basically what I'm saying is this. Natural disasters bei
 ng controlled by members of staff or whomever is about as realistic as grass tiles in the ocean.

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, Hire collaboration, as a teenager with probably not that much budget, that's being reduced by monthly server, sounds etc, just how? Also, we have seen several examples of what happens when two or more people work on one project... some times that works out, but others, without official employments / contracts etc..And, if those unknown areas were fixable by adding one line of code, it would have been done by now. Also, the main drawback with automatic things is that it is automatic and lacks human judgment.And as for "in other games they destroyed an entire player group." let's not compare apples and eggs shall we. That's the same as saying that on other websites they have used php, so they should do it everywhere. Or, that youtube has a crappy video player, so all websites displaying videos probably have crappy players. Or, once i went to McDonald's and my burger was cold, so all McDonald's serve cold burgers.sinc
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@35 yes. My point with MUDS and other such games where administrators are also players and have all of those additional powers is like you said, the temptation is there. There are rules and restrictions written out for the administrators yes, but I've seen games where the administrators have gotten so frustrated with a player or set of players, that they used a command to destroy their in-game property and subsequently kill them. There were rules and such not to do so, but the whole admin group decided it was a suitable punishment.@46 I was agreeing with you, through sarcasm. Although natural disasters happening automatically is not a game breaker by any stretch, and neither are unknown areas and inventory bugs or any other loop hole/cheat/security flaw, it is my opinion that releasing tiny patches to fix these bugs straight up is the responsible thing to do, as these do alter game play. In addition, it is my opinion that not fixing bugs or correcting errors due to the 
 excuse that it is too much work or life is busy is also irresponsible, especially when money is being made. I recognize that all of this work may be a bit on the strenuous side for a still in school teenager who also has other projects and obligations, but I also recognize that there are 7 billion people on Earth and that the likelihood that not a single one of them would be willing to collaborate with Sam to code when he is unable or unwilling to is impractical.Tl;Dr: If Sam can't fix these issues by himself, then perhaps he could consider hiring collaboration. If he does not wish to hire collaboration, I have no sympathy. Either way, there are always solutions.

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And guess what will come up next when disasters happen automatically? Keep guessing... keep guessing.New topic: disasters in stw. This is really frustrating, whenever i come online, it seems like disasters are folowing me or something...blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahI'll simply refuse to repeat myself on the why disasters remain under admin control, and also forget the fact that all those disasters are logged for all others so everyone is at the same page, every time.No matter what happens, sooner or later, someone is going to find something that bothers them.

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45, I don't think that it's that complicated. Haven't he coded the rain system? So it won't be impossible for him to code the hapenning of disasters automaticly.

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@44 yes but honestly, why bother doing that? That's simply too complicated to code, especially when we can just call it RP and consider it a day. And excuses man? Not at all. Why it's just a way for us to avoid turning Sam into an emotionless robot coding slave, letting logical errors and bugs remain in the game that is.Ps. please try to avoid slipping in the puddle of sarcasm steadily dripping from this post and on to the floor tread upon by yourself and other readers.I mean Props to Sam for getting this thing up and running and doing some butt kickin' work on it, but props to him in the same way you'd give props to someone who's written an entire novel, but now is in the editing stages with him and his friends telling the editor they're wrong or just to leave it be, while still expecting guaranteed success.

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@44 yes but honestly, why bother doing that? That's simply too complicated to code, especially when we can just call it RP and consider it a day. And excuses man? Not at all. Why it's just a way for us to avoid turning Sam into an emotionless robot coding slave, letting logical errors and bugs remain in the game that is.Ps. please try to avoid slipping in the puddle of sarcasm steadily dripping from this post and on to the floor tread upon by yourself and other readers.

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Amine wrote:@SteveIf the admins have no move command there will be no one currently playing because of the unknown area bugs. Don't even think of saying why doesn't sam fix them instead of giving a move command, because you'll not get what satisfies you trust me.About the disasters, it's not like they are there to kill people, they were only there to make the game more challenging. What, like 2 or 3 disasters per day or week in different maps.LOL same old complains, I see that somebody here thinks that Sam is a robot that must code nonstop, let me remind you, he is a human, just like you yes. Add to that he is working on two online games at once.Oh yeah, and about shelters getting destroyed, it's not the first time I hear you wining about it. Good god, don't you know something called role play, well if not google that before playing STW, an RPG.Not an excu
 se. It's too easy to code the happening of disasters automaticly from a time to time. Simply.

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Hmm, this topic has been active. It is perhaps a bit pointess to do so now, but yet, here's my post to add to this mess. I will just add a few points here, because most were already clarified by others.@severestormsteve1, post 29:"My problem is not with admins themselves, but of what they are capable of;"Do you have a dog? If you don't, imagine you have one, a cute fluffy lab. Nice, isn't it? But then, think about it; dogs evolved from wolves, dangerous killers. Your dog is capable of killing people. Will you be afraid of him because of this, or just accept he's not going to do it because he's a friendly fluffball? The choice is on you, I guess, but with admins it's the same. It's not what they are capable of, it's just what they actually will do. Every human is capable of awful things, but we don't do them, because morality and being nice and something.Post 34:"If a player breaks a rule, the
 y'll get banned. If an admin breaks a rule, they no longer get to do that."If a player breaks a rule then they might get warned (level 1 to 5), jailed or banned, or something else, depending on the situation; what rule they broke, how many times did they break it before, if they knew they were breaking the rule, etc.If an admin breaks a rule, they might get warned, demoted or banned, again depending on the situation. Admins don't get less chanses from players, perhaps even less. Once more I'll state that admins have lots of rules we have to follow, and if we don't, we're gone all the same.You seem to be afraid of powers others have, when you should worry more if they will use them against you. Don't take that as a personal attack or anything, just my thoughts on the matter.

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So it is getting on nerves to blame someone with less appreciation and respect, and then requesting from him to releace updates. Even if he decided to releace an update, people's comments would give him less motivation to continue, so do not whine about it until something new is out.

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First, please STOP fighting here, cool down.This is just a game.Here are some answers and thoughts:Absence is probably the core thing in my message which I wanted to bring up...I mean absence of updates, information about what is going on  and communication.I noticed a big change in that issue about one year ago.In 2015 and at the begining of 2016, there were lots of great updates and lots of new things were added in STW.Then after the previous big update in June 2017, there hasn't been a lot of information about what is going on.Yes, yes, people have their own life, some have studies, some have their work, but sending atleast some messages what is happening and what will be coming, would already be better.And for example:let's say, adding a few animals in STW would not take a lot of programming, and it would already bring a lot of refreshment to the game.Now, there are much more things related to fighting and killing than animals and plants.That is quite unrealistic if you think about surviving in the wild in the reality.Nature is usually full of different plants and animals, and some of them are dangerous and poisonous.Yes, I know, there are bears, rabbits and wolves, but that does not make the game very variable yet.There are people who like pk, but please remember that there are also people who do not like about it.And I am not speaking about whether your turn on or off your pk.There are just so much stuff for fighting, and not so many things in the nature, it looks strange.I think many people would prefer small updates from time to time rather than a one big update once in a year.And whatever is the reason for all those things which have been removed from the game, it has limited the chances of creativity - what you can make after you have all the stuff in the game and if you don't like pk.I have nothing against the natural disasters, they are part of the nature.Now it is just so easy to "survive" in that game after you have all the stuff. You don't need to do almost anything, just refill your water and food stocks sometimes.So those natural disasters bring atleast some challenges to the game.Here are some things which would be great to have in STW in the future:1. motor boats. Do not say they don't belong in stw. Then neither shot guns, grenades and teleporters should not belong there.There could be either an option to buy them from STW store or to build them from different parts in STW.You can just make it hard to obtain all the parts for the motor... Andthere could be a gasolin pump in the gas station or in some harbour... Working with coins. 2. an option for all players for designing their shelter maps (not only for the admins)3. more animals and plants-sealife in the ocean (fish, corals, crabs, shells etc)-lions, elephants, giraffes etc in the rainforest4. occupations (work)

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sorry I meant occupations (work)

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@shellman 1 won't happen, sorry, sam has said it multiple times2. already in the works, but limited3, already in the works4. no idea what you mean by that?5. other things yes to make it so you don't just have to refil your water to survive.and i explained in detail why the things you complained about were removed from the game for now.

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First, please STOP fighting here, cool down.This is just a game.Here are some answers and thoughts:Absence is probably the core thing in my message which I wanted to bring up...I mean absence of updates, information about what is going on  and communication.I noticed a big change in that issue about one year ago.In 2015 and at the begining of 2016, there were lots of great updates and lots of new things were added in STW.Then after the previous big update in June 2017, there hasn't been a lot of information about what is going on.Yes, yes, people have their own life, some have studies, some have their work, but sending atleast some messages what is happening and what will be coming, would already be better.And for example:let's say, adding a few animals in STW would not take a lot of programming, and it would already bring a lot of refreshment to the game.Now, there are much more things related to fighting and killing than animals and plants.That is quite unrealistic if you think about surviving in the wild in the reality.Nature is usually full of different plants and animals, and some of them are dangerous and poisonous.Yes, I know, there are bears, rabbits and wolves, but that does not make the game very variable yet.There are people who like pk, but please remember that there are also people who do not like about it.And I am not speaking about whether your turn on or off your pk.There are just so much stuff for fighting, and not so many things in the nature, it looks strange.I think many people would prefer small updates from time to time rather than a one big update once in a year.And whatever is the reason for all those things which have been removed from the game, it has limited the chances of creativity - what you can make after you have all the stuff in the game and if you don't like pk.I have nothing against the natural disasters, they are part of the nature.Now it is just so easy to "survive" in that game after you have all the stuff. You don't need to do almost anything, just refill your water and food stocks sometimes.So those natural disasters bring atleast some challenges to the game.Here are some things which would be great to have in STW in the future:1. motor boats. Do not say they don't belong in stw. Then neither shot guns, grenades and teleporters should not belong there.There could be either an option to buy them from STW store or to build them from different parts in STW.You can just make it hard to obtain all the parts for the motor... Andthere could be a gasolin pump in the gas station or in some harbour... Working with coins. 2. an option for all players for designing their shelter maps (not only for the admins)3. more animals and plants-sealife in the ocean (fish, corals, crabs, shells etc)-lions, elephants, giraffes etc in the rainforest4. occupancies

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[[wow]]... this's amaizing! STW has those commands since the start, why no one complained about them before? Guess I know the answer: simply cause there's no interesting topick braking the picture of SamTupy's production this week, This just doesn't work, there must be.Well, tell me! in those last 6 months or even mor did any storm happen concerning an admin used his commands to do a bad move toward players?With cheaters out of the seen, no administrator from this last group used his powers in causing damage to people nore to the game.As smoke-j cited in the post above everything is logged, I don't think admins are dumb enouf to do an  action  will throgh them out of the list, but who does, losing his rank will be the smallest thing that he gets. I know many of you won't believe due to the known way of administration in the blind comunity. This's not ultra power where you give and go.If admins can't move, ed
 it invs, build maps, warn players, and clear items ETC better for them the player rank then. BTW not only stw and mason's games have the move command, as you think, even mud games have it. anyways this admin system discution is just non sance in my ais, cause it even has no relation to the main post.Greetings

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@Draq there is no hiding or denying the fact that admins use to do that all the time, abuse their powers.but there is one issue with using an alt account, and it's why it's best for admins to use their admin accounts. if someone is cheating, or stuck somewhere,or just generally needs an admin they normally type /admintell and explain what is wrong. if you are logged in as a normal player then you don't see any of those, and not all players might know there is an admin on under another character name. we could use names that clearly give it away, but then you have the issue of someone is cheating, like right now look, then by the time you get on the admin account it is past and nothing you can do about it.and with the admin logs, there is no way to get around it, admin's cannot edit their logs, and it logs everything, every single little thing. that's also probably why admins are so touchy now a days about people in game saying you only did th
 is cause you are an admin, or it is unfair you are an admin. not saying you are saying this, don't get me wrong. i'm talking about people complaining, mainly about pk in the actual game. we simply don't, and if someone does they are gone, it's simple as that. it has been an uphill battle for some cause of things that were done in the past, admins setting their health to 100k  and going and doing pk, or copying Sam's dfc with the 900 dfc and doing pk. but that doesn't happen at all anymore. and it makes sense why. you are essentially taking money from that person, unfairly taking their dfc and killing them, dfc they paid for.it's just logical, if a person buys 10 dfc, turns on pk and want's to fight, then someone comes along with an inventory they did not earn, they got from admin commands and kills that person. that is just simply wrong as hell, no way around it, and yes that use to happen in the past, but if someone did that now a days..
 .it would be so un good for them. hell in the past there was even 1 admin who got caught, thanks again to our logs, giving Sam's inventory to his alt accounts, another gave Sam's inventory to his friends minus the paid items. shit use to just be bad. but luckily it doesn't happen any more. there hasn't even been an issue like that with our current admin group, closest was an admin using admin commands to give a player a compass, and yep they got yelled at by Sam publicly in the chat, and that was months ago.when i first got set as an admin there was allot of admins who played under alt accounts, but i figured i wouldn't do it. and i also figured, in order for that i would have to play as a normal player, and the only way to do that is to have strict rules. I never talked to Sam about it though lol, i just sorta said, hey, this is the way it will work now, no more stupid admin shit cheating cause you are an admin. and slowly those admins who cheated we
 nt away, and we had a good admin team, as we do now. from the start they are very clearly told what they can and can't do. the temptation might be there, but the resulting shit storm isn't worth it. this is also why one of the first rules about being an admin is don't ask about being an admin. those who ask the most are the ones who you can't trust, all they want is the ability to do shit they can't do now for themselves and their friends. as it stands now we have a group of people who don't abuse it, and who keep the game running and keep fresh stuff happening, and no issues except from those who get caught cheating and then come to the forums and swear all admins are terrible and they never did anything wrong. but that will never go away.

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Steve,Any RPG, MUD, etc, is going to have admins that are capable of doing things that normal players cannot. If you disagree with what STW admins can do, you'd hate what a wizard can do on a MOO or any similar platform that allows them to move or change anything in the database. You said this is why you stay away from MUDs though, so I assume you know this already.There's a good reason for admins to have these abilities in any game, and that's simply the need for the hunan factor to be present in some situations. For example, code probably can't always know how to deal with moving a player out of an unknown area to the correct location. For now, admins need to take care of that. Sam hasn't coded a way for disasters to spawn on their own, so admins need to handle that as well. If a player loses items due to a bug, then an admin can replace those items. I could go on.there's just one thing that bothers me though. Admin characters a
 re allowed to play the game just like normal player characters. This doesn't sit right with me. Just because rules are in place to prevent admins from cheating doesn't mean someone would never try to find a way to get away with it. It's my opinion that admin characters should be for helping to administrate the game and nothing else. If the person behind said admin character wants to play the game, they should be required to do so on a normal player character. I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but the temptation to abuse admin abilities when playing on an admin character is there, and anyone who says otherwise is probably lying.

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what part of this was confusing from my last post?...and all admins moves and everything are logged and saved so any of it can be viewed and checked when there is an issue...yes it is all logged. you cannot make up something then assume it is true and base an argument around it. you are doing just that, making up things then assuming they are the gospel. if an admin gives them self 1 blade of grass it is logged. and if they do so they get demoted, that means they are no longer an admin anymore. and in case you missed it the last admin who did that was who? Ronald, what happened? demoted, and that was just a  few things here and there he was doing this with.what part of if they do it they get demoted do you not understand, and of course, inventory corrected if they do it. and players do not just get banned right away, everyone gets a second chance, there is a stw jail now, pretty much like a time out, you go there then if you do it again you get banned. ag
 ain, if you played the game in the past year you would know these things.and yes I get it Steve, if someone made a post about the lack of development in swamp, in game x, y, or z that you don't play you would be compelled to post on that topic as well. even though you have no experience in the game with the players or anything involving it. that makes allot of sense. if i was not a player of stw i wouldn't post on this, if someone made a post about the lack of development in some other game i don't play i wouldn't even open the topic and read it. why, cause it has nothing to do with anything i do or am involved with. and i'm sorry, but being a master on stw and having played the game consistently for almost a year and a half, i'd think i know a bit more about how the game works then someone who doesn't play it. you make one wonder what it is that Sam did to piss you off so much. cause one thing you have not mentioned once in this entire thre
 ad is your examples of the admins doing the things you said they do. all me and others have done is explain to you in every way possible the ways what you think is happening is not happening, but still you insist on believing in these ghosts.oh, and before you think i just agree with everything Sam does or says, which i am sure will be coming at some point, that is so unbelievably wrong. i'd say more than anyone i am the most likely of any of the admins to explain to Sam why he is doing something wrong or why he needs to do one thing before another. so me posting here has nothing to do with Sam, more to do with the fact that you are just misled through one thing or another. and when everyone is saying one thing, people who actually play the game, and you ignore it and continue to reassert something only you believe in, one has to really wonder where it is all coming from. it is not from experience, or from stuff that is actually happening, so it all makes less than no se
 nse. if you don't play the game then you can't quite weigh in on how the game is run or how it works with any sort of accuracy, can you?

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Lol I simply find it funny how many times these few have missed my points...Oh deer.My points are this. 1. A few of you can keep flying off the handle and getting all worked up over some comment someone made about someone's grammar who insinuated he was dumb, I don't care. I've already explained that one, so my part's over. The best I can say to you is, don't imply I don't know what school is or anything about coding, and I promise I won't insult anything about you, -- linguistics included. Otherwise, if that is extremely offensive to you, well, think about it before you make similar comments.2. You can keep telling me about restrictions and such all you want, but here's also the thing. If a player breaks a rule, they'll get banned. If an admin breaks a rule, they no longer get to do that. You'll fix code to insure players can't break the rules, -- in most cases anyway. But you'll give admins all o
 f these commands to use. Plus we keep using these huge scenarios of giving 500 grenades or 200 pop cans or whatever, -- what about just one or two of these items? Would you know if that happened? I hope there's a log.Oh and Smoke-Jay? It's not a matter of whether or not I can answer questions about other games I play, but hmm. Let me go read the topic title..."Lack of the development in survive the wild and other issues"If you'd like me to create a topic calledList of Severestormsteve1's grievances against games he "doesn't play", I'll think about it. I doubt you want that though.Oh, and I'll stop adding my two scents to a discussion regarding games I do or don't play when I don't have anything to add to them. Perhaps if it affects people that much that I don't feel comfortable playing a game where admins have a whole bunch of modification commands, I guess keep complaining at me, but
  expect a response back. Otherwise, turn your statement of "Don't complain about something you don't play" over, and don't answer my complaints about coding issues if you don't code Survive the Wild.

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Lol I simply find it funny how many times these few have missed my points...Oh deer.My points are this. 1. A few of you can keep flying off the handle and getting all worked up over some comment someone made about someone's grammar who insinuated he was dumb, I don't care. I've already explained that one, so my part's over.2. You can keep telling me about restrictions and such all you want, but here's also the thing. If a player breaks a rule, they'll get banned. If an admin breaks a rule, they no longer get to do that. You'll fix code to insure players can't break the rules, -- in most cases anyway. But you'll give admins all of these commands to use. Plus we keep using these huge scenarios of giving 500 grenades or 200 pop cans or whatever, -- what about just one or two of these items? Would you know if that happened? I hope there's a log.Oh and Smoke-Jay? It's not a matter of whether or not I c
 an answer questions about other games I play, but hmm. Let me go read the topic title..."Lack of the development in survive the wild and other issues"If you'd like me to create a topic calledList of Severestormsteve1's grievances against games he "doesn't play", I'll think about it. I doubt you want that though.Oh, and I'll stop adding my two scents to a discussion regarding games I do or don't play when I don't have anything to add to them. Perhaps if it affects people that much that I don't feel comfortable playing a game where admins have a whole bunch of modification commands, I guess keep complaining at me, but expect a response back. Otherwise, turn your statement of "Don't complain about something you don't play" over, and don't answer my complaints about coding issues if you don't code Survive the Wild.

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So what now. Are we in the original STW topic? A different, separated topic? Or a grade for grammar lessons. I also wrote a post number 10 as in reply to Shellman, which almost contained 8000 characters with long explanations, go and count my lingual errors. Do I even care? As long as my point reaches the other then no need to whine about something that you don't like. Instead go and reply the more important points and questions than blaming someone for the grammatical level they have, or lingual level in general. Remember that not all of us are native speakers, just like me. Do I even seem to be an English speaker? Nope. I am originally Arabic and Iraq is from where I come.

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That changes quite a bit. Steve,  please play the latest version of whatever you're commenting on before posting about it.  Other than that, I think there's not much to say. For me this topic is over.

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severestormsteve1 wrote:point 6 of post 26:My problem is not with admins themselves, but of what they are capable of; the commands under their control. There are rules, there is demoting, there is all of that yes, but there is also an extensive list of admin commands from what I've witnessed and heard about -those to edit inventories, spawn disasters, move any player to any map, etc.okay, i don't know how simply i can lay this out for you.1A. admins can edit inventories1B. yes this is clearly true, and for good reason. admins however are not allowed to just say i want 1000 grenades, i'll give myself some. if they do, instant demotion.1C. admins are not allowed to say hey i have a friend who needs/wants 1 pop can, 1 grenade, 500 survival packs or 1 nut and use admin commands to give it to them. if they do, instant demotion.1D. admins are not allowed to even say this
  new person has mindthirst, i will use a command to give them antibiotics so they don't die.1E. new person says i am lost, can someone give me a compass, not allowed to use admin commands to give them this 1 compass.1Conclusion. i hope you get the point, there is the possibility, but not the ability to do it for personal gain of yourself or any other players. it is a game, all admins and players must play the game within the bounds of the game.2A. admins can move themselves and players with a command within and between maps, yes this is true.2B. an admin is not allowed to say i don't want to paddle to the village so i will just move there, demotion.2C. an admin can move players, doing this for any other reason than to get a person out of an unknown area or other similar bugged area is not allowed. result, demotion.2D. player is stuck in a hard and complicated map like let's say the confusing caves, player will die of hunger or thir
 st before getting out. admin cannot move them out. it is hands off by the admin using admin commands, it is survive the wild.2E. admins cannot use a move command to go to a friend to give them stuff, they have to get there the normal way.2F. admins have to play the game from their last point of play, end of story.2Conclusion. admins are not to move someone or their selves from map to map or within maps unless it is for a real reason because that player is stuck outside the bounds of the game. if they do, you guessed it, demotion.3A. yes admins can spawn disasters, this is true.3B. there is a disaster log to ensure nothing bad happens and so that 2 disasters are never launched on the same map too close together resulting in killing people.3C. admins cannot target certain people on certain maps because they have some sort of vendetta against 1 person. if they abuse it and do this, you guessed it, demotion.3Conclusion. admins have to follow qu
 ite strict rules with natural disasters to ensure the game is still fun and not a mass killing. including not setting health losses or anything too high to that people just don't all die.i seem to finally grasp the issue you have with the admins on stw. you believe that just because they have the ability to do something that they will, and there will be no response to it by Sam or other admins. that just because someone can do something they will and there is nothing to stop them or no repercussions if they do. well you are just simply incorrect, there is no way around it. flat out wrong, there are strict rules on what admins can and can't do. if you played stw a year or go i would guess you formed these opinions. however, that is not how it works now a days. it is the farthest from how it actually works now. the admin rules are way more strict and less forgiving then the rules the players agree to before playing. and all admins moves and everything are logged and s
 aved so any of it can be viewed and checked when there is an issue. i an speak from personal experience, i do pk, and kill someone and they cry and cry about how i use master commands to kill them. so i log on without an admin account and we fight, same result, they die. it has nothing to do with what admins do, but with people trying to justify something that happened refusing to believe it could be any fault of their own. even people who fell off the mountain will say an admin moved me and killed me, but guess what, no proof of it or anything even remotely close to it, it is 100% made up and false. every admin who becomes an admin gets a pretty long talking to by yours truly on what they can and cannot do, and what will happen if they break the admin rules, i'm the one who put them all into play. you see, the way it use to work was admins would take a copy of SAM's inventory, then turn on pk and kill people when they had 900 dfc and thousands of grenades. was that
  fucked up and wrong, sure was, and that is why it is not allowed. masters use to just randomly give people stuff, like 200 pop cans just cause they were friends, is that allowed 

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severestormsteve1 wrote:point 6 of post 26:My problem is not with admins themselves, but of what they are capable of; the commands under their control. There are rules, there is demoting, there is all of that yes, but there is also an extensive list of admin commands from what I've witnessed and heard about -those to edit inventories, spawn disasters, move any player to any map, etc.okay, i don't know how simply i can lay this out for you.1A. admins can edit inventories1B. yes this is clearly true, and for good reason. admins however are not allowed to just say i want 1000 grenades, i'll give myself some. if they do, instant demotion.1C. admins are not allowed to say hey i have a friend who needs/wants 1 pop can, 1 grenade, 500 survival packs or 1 nut and use admin commands to give it to them. if they do, instant demotion.1D. admins are not allowed to even say this
  new person has mindthirst, i will use a command to give them antibiotics so they don't die.1E. new person says i am lost, can someone give me a compass, not allowed to use admin commands to give them this 1 compass.1Conclusion. i hope you get the point, there is the ability, but not the ability to do it for personal gain of yourself or any other players. it is a game, all admins and players must play the game within the bounds of the game.2A. admins can move themselves and players with a command within and between maps, yes this is true.2B. an admin is not allowed to say i don't want to paddle to the village so i will just move there, demotion.2C. an admin can move players, doing this for any other reason than to get a person out of an unknown area or other similar bugged area is not allowed. result, demotion.2D. player is stuck in a hard and complicated map like let's say the confusing caves, player will die of hunger or thirst b
 efore getting out. admin cannot move them out. it is hands off by the admin using admin commands, it is survive the wild.2E. admins cannot use a move command to go to a friend to give them stuff, they have to get there the normal way.2F. admins have to play the game from their last point of play, end of story.2Conclusion. admins are not to move someone or their selves from map to map or within maps unless it is for a real reason because that player is stuck outside the bounds of the game. if they do, you guessed it, demotion.3A. yes admins can spawn disasters, this is true.3B. there is a disaster log to ensure nothing bad happens and so that 2 disasters are never launched on the same map too close together resulting in killing people.3C. admins cannot target certain people on certain maps because they have some sort of vendetta against 1 person. if they abuse it and do this, you guessed it, demotion.3Conclusion. admins have to follow quite 
 strict rules with natural disasters to ensure the game is still fun and not a mass killing. including not setting health losses or anything too high to that people just don't all die.i seem to finally grasp the issue you have with the admins on stw. you believe that just because they have the ability to do something that they will, and there will be no response to it by Sam or other admins. that just because someone can do something they will and there is nothing to stop them or no repercussions if they do. well you are just simply incorrect, there is no way around it. flat out wrong, there are strict rules on what admins can and can't do. if you played stw a year or go i would guess you formed these opinions. however, that is not how it works now a days. it is the farthest from how it actually works now. the admin rules are way more strict and less forgiving then the rules the players agree to before playing. and all admins moves and everything are logged and saved
  so any of it can be viewed and checked when there is an issue. i an speak from personal experience, i do pk, and kill someone and they cry and cry about how i use master commands to kill them. so i log on without an admin account and we fight, same result, they die. it has nothing to do with what admins do, but with people trying to justify something that happened refusing to believe it could be any fault of their own. even people who fell off the mountain will say an admin moved me and killed me, but guess what, no proof of it or anything even remotely close to it, it is 100% made up and false. every admin who becomes an admin gets a pretty long talking to by yours truly on what they can and cannot do, and what will happen if they break the admin rules, i'm the one who put them all into play. you see, the way it use to work was admins would take a copy of SAM's inventory, then turn on pk and kill people when they had 900 dfc and thousands of grenades. was that fuc
 ked up and wrong, sure was, and that is why it is not allowed. masters use to just randomly give people stuff, like 200 pop cans just cause they were friends, is that allowed now, 

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I'm pretty sure what smoke said was understandable, and what do you know about admin commands? Edit inventories, how are we supposed to remove 2597 survival packs from a person after we have proved they were gained by cheating? How are we supposed to move someone when they get stuck at unknown area? If you even  know what this last one is and what are its types. Saying moving a person to 0 0 0 unlike most other audio games these maps are much more complicated than what you may think, let's pick windywolf forest as an example. At 0 0 0 there is nothing but air in there. Why? Because the map doesn't start from there, I'm not saying anymore of this, but all I gotta say is do not throw a complain about stuff you don't even know a bit about.

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@people offended I made comments regarding grammar, primarily post 26 since that's who I'm addressing here. Here's where that came from, I want you to read this multiple times until you figure out the insult in this quotation from post 21.Smoke-Jay wrote:well I don't know if you are aware, but people between the age of 5 and 18 normally have this thing they have to do monday through friday, september through june. it is called school, i'm guessing you have no clue what it is, going off your lack of well thought out responces,So you want to tell me you think I have no idea what school is, insulting my intelligence level. Because that's not low. And then, spell responses as responces? I'm not offended, and I'm not dogging on all people with bad grammar. But still, I couldn't resist. The moral, don't dish it out if you can't take it in. point 6 of post 26:My problem is not with admins themselves, but of what they are capable of; the commands under their control. There are rules, there is demoting, there is all of that yes, but there is also an extensive list of admin commands from what I've witnessed and heard about -those to edit inventories, spawn disasters, move any player to any map, etc.@28, just because,logically fallacious wrote:argumentum ad hominem tu quoque(also known as:  “you too” fallacy, hypocrisy, personal inconsistency)Description: Claiming the argument is flawed by pointing out that the one making the argument is not acting consistently with the claims of the argument.argumentum ad hominem(also known as:  personal abuse, personal attacks, abusive fallacy, damning the source, name calling, needling [form of], refutation by character)Description: Attacking the person making the argument, rather than the argument itself, when the attack on the person is completely irrelevant to the argument the person is making.

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@people offended I made comments regarding grammar, primarily post 26 since that's who I'm addressing here. Here's where that came from, I want you to read this multiple times until you figure out the insult in this quotation from post 21.Smoke-Jay wrote:well I don't know if you are aware, but people between the age of 5 and 18 normally have this thing they have to do monday through friday, september through june. it is called school, i'm guessing you have no clue what it is, going off your lack of well thought out responces,So you want to tell me you think I have no idea what school is, insulting my intelligence level. Because that's not low. And then, spell responses as responces? I'm not offended, and I'm not dogging on all people with bad grammar. But still, I couldn't resist. Moral, don't dish it out if you can't take it in. point 6 of post 26:My problem is not with admins themselves, but of what they are capable of; the commands under their control. There are rules, there is demoting, there is all of that yes, but there is also an extensive list of admin commands from what I've witnessed and heard about -those to edit inventories, spawn disasters, move any player to any map, etc.@28, just because,logically fallacious wrote:argumentum ad hominem tu quoque(also known as:  “you too” fallacy, hypocrisy, personal inconsistency)Description: Claiming the argument is flawed by pointing out that the one making the argument is not acting consistently with the claims of the argument.argumentum ad hominem(also known as:  personal abuse, personal attacks, abusive fallacy, damning the source, name calling, needling [form of], refutation by character)Description: Attacking the person making the argument, rather than the argument itself, when the attack on the person is completely irrelevant to the argument the person is making.

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@people offended I made comments regarding grammar, primarily post 26 since that's who I'm addressing here. Here's where that came from, I want you to read this multiple times until you figure out the insult in this quotation from post 21.Smoke-Jay wrote:well I don't know if you are aware, but people between the age of 5 and 18 normally have this thing they have to do monday through friday, september through june. it is called school, i'm guessing you have no clue what it is, going off your lack of well thought out responces,So you want to tell me you think I have no idea what school is, insulting my intelligence level. Because that's not low. And then, spell responses as responces? I'm not offended, and I'm not dogging on all people with bad grammar. But still, I couldn't resist. Moral, don't dish it out if you can't take it in. point 6 of post 26:My problem is not with admins themselves, but of what they are capable of; the commands under their control. There are rules, there is demoting, there is all of that yes, but there is also an extensive list of admin commands from what I've witness and heard about -those to edit inventories, spawn disasters, move any player to any map, etc.

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Post 22: If we're going to argue grammar, please allow me to dissect the post mocking subpar usage thereof:Of course you don't see my point, Mayana. Because Players, would have the unstuck command, not the move-to command, and unstuck would put them at 0 0 on the map they got stuck out of the bounds on.You over use the commas. You also used "because" at the beginning of a sentence, a big no-no.  The second (improper) sentence also becomes an extremely long run-on sentence with poor syntactical structure.@smoke-jay your punctuation sucks. Your grammar sucks. To top it off, you feel you need to reiterate points that every, one, is already aware of in order to make your argument valid. Clearly, that doesn't work because if it did, there would be no debate in the first place.Why is there a comma breaking up the word e
 veryone? "every, one" is not proper grammatical usage. The comma after "one" is also poorly placed. You also need a comma before "because", as that segment of your sentence is an ansilary clause explaining the reason why "it doesn't work".And also... Based on evidence in your post, assuming is apparently another one of your biggest weaknesses.Beginning a sentence with "and", immediately followed by "also"? This is also a big no-no.Finally I think it's more than a little funny that this is just imaginary, nothing to be upset over or anything when someone is complaining. But when it comes to cheating and admins getting mad, oh now that's, justifiable. Arguments are either true or false based on circumstance, not your personal convenience.You need a comma after "finally"
 . You use "finally" in a statement which isn't actually the final statement. You declare no other targets for the statement(s) afterwards, so they are assumed to be directed to the same subject. You begin a sentence with "but", yet another no-no. Why is there a comma between "that's" and "justifiable"?Second off. I didn't ask what else Sam had to do. Neither did those paying him. This is about Survive the Wild. Thanks for letting us in on what Sam's up to Monday through Friday. Mind telling us what he does Saturday and Sunday -- church? Sports? Musical organizations? Friend's houses? Arcades? I'm wrapped man.On second thought, let's both start a topic in off topic discussion about the life of Sam Tupy, where all interested can check out what he's up to on a daily basis.Discussion of Sam's life over, let's get to...Oh no. I've alrea
 dy covered everything said here. So I guess let's get to nothing then? Try reading my post better.In the mean time I'm done arguing with you over this. I have stated my complaints already. Feel free to add in an extra bit of inconsistency, interspersed with lower cased I's and "this thing called" or "there's this thing" or "there's this little thing called" type statements and other redundancies.This part I'll leave as a pop quiz. Lets see if you can figure out the grammatical errors.Kai

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So, if people don't have anything to complain about, they start to complain about other peoples gramma. Just [[wow]]. I'm done with this topic...

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Time for me to step in. This  post could be considered offensive, but I won't hold back. 1,  destroying shelters. how many times did I hear that? A lot, trust me.  Don't like it, go place it somewhere where It could be hard to get to. the game has 20 or so maps for a reason. 2,  placing shelters in the ocean. really?  This made me laugh. I mean how  would you expected to stay in one place, how would you expect it to flowed with you inside it. 3,  opening inventory in the air. I don't think you want it to come back.  When the bug was there, you'd hear a lot of people wining about how they died when someone dropped stuff on them while they're sleeping.  If Sam allows the bug to come back, STW will lose a lot of players. 4,  not enough to do?  Have you heard of a thing called patients?  Coding maps, quests, new items, all that takes time.  It's not like you wri
 te one line of code, and bang! There are 100 new maps, 50 quests, and 200 new items. 5,  very hard to get a response? Sam has his own life, you know.  Between school, homework, his daily activities, managing 2 online games, yeah. Enough said. 6, Steve,  what's your problem with admin's?  Don't say you have no problem, because obviously that's not true. 7,  grammar and punctuation, really, is that how low we gonna get?  Do I have perfect English? No. Is it enough to get my message across? Yes. I think that's all that matters.  The same holds true for anyone here.

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That's it, that's it, when someone doesn't have what to say they will start insulting other's English level. I'm sorry, pretty sorry to tell you that ischildish.

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lol lol yes as i thought, nothing...you can't answer simple questions, which i thought you would be able to since you know so much about the game. it's fairly obvious, you got upset about something sam did, maybe removing you from a beta team, and now you have to complain masking your real intent. it's cool if you're upset, maybe it is justified, but you could at least just say it instead of beating around the bush. and, no response at all? you don't want to tell us about how you go complain about other games you don't play? the bugs that have been fixed? the issues you have with the admins, with things they actually do wrong vs what you think they do but don't? just sweeping statements with no reason why. you want something fixed with the admins, even though it isn't broken. and it's fairly easy to see who's making more reasonable posts, how many thumbs up do you have on these posts...oh wait...none, sorry, all alone with all thos
 e problems, with only those who have gotten in trouble in stw to bond with.and grammer, punctuation, lol lol, do you understand me? the answer is yes, whoo hoo someone doesn't use text book grammer, i've seen this argument too many times to count in too many places to count. you said something i don't have an answer to, what can i do, ah yes, complain about syntax or say you are a stinky but poo poo head cause you didn't write properly. hopefully if i do that they will ignore the fact that i can't actually respond. if you get so upset over this here little lowercase i then you should maybe consult help, cause it takes specifically looking for it. and please, go looke up voice, you assume there is 1 correct way of writing, how cute.now, i do want to know, do you complain about what else aprone has to do instead of coding swamp, and the bugs on there not being fixed? it is a quite simple question. do you play swamp and, do, this, on, the, swamp, 
 topics?if you just wanna admit you have something specifically against Sam That's fine, just say it and make it clear for everyone, cause none of this makes any sense. maybe for me it is just apparent  cause i know what happens behind the scenes and you don't, i don't know, but this is all just a cluster fuck of nothingness. i'll reserve replying until you can actually back up something with facts, the same facts admins use when someone cheats or uses a bug for their advantage. and guess what, it has to be proven with evidence that leaves no room for doubt.so until there is actually something of substance i'll enjoy my espresso and a cigarrette and start working on more stuff on stw, cause that's what us evil admins do, we help make the game better.

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So it would always put them on 0 0 0? Nope, that won't work. In some cases, they will end up in a wall, or in unknown area, which is where they wanted to come from in the firstplace. And how would it work anyway? Would it have to check the zone to see if the person is in unknown area and move them only then? Seems like a pain to code. And if it wouldn't check for zones, many people could just use it for quick travel.Punctuation and grammar? Really, you want to argue about this now? As sad as it might be, Steve, not everyone has the same level of English as you do. Smoke's writing was understandable, so I see no reason to be so annoyed about it, this isn't the time or place for it. My English is even worse, why aren't you insulting it instead?

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Of course you don't see my point, Mayana. Because Players, would have the unstuck command, not the move-to command, and unstuck would put them at 0 0 on the map they got stuck out of the bounds on.@smoke-jay your punctuation sucks. Your grammar sucks. To top it off, you feel you need to reiterate points that every, one, is already aware of in order to make your argument valid. Clearly, that doesn't work because if it did, there would be no debate in the first place.So school?And also... Based on evidence in your post, assuming is apparently another one of your biggest weaknesses.Finally I think it's more than a little funny that this is just imaginary, nothing to be upset over or anything when someone is complaining. But when it comes to cheating and admins getting mad, oh now that's, justifiable. Arguments are either true or false based on circumstance, not your personal convenience.Second off. I didn't ask what else Sam had 
 to do. Neither did those paying him. This is about Survive the Wild. Thanks for letting us in on what Sam's up to Monday through Friday. Mind telling us what he does Saturday and Sunday -- church? Sports? Musical organizations? Friend's houses? Arcades? I'm wrapped man.On second thought, let's both start a topic in off topic discussion about the life of Sam Tupy, where all interested can check out what he's up to on a daily basis.Discussion of Sam's life over, let's get to...Oh no. I've already covered everything said here. So I guess let's get to nothing then? Try reading my post better.In the mean time I'm done arguing with you over this. I have stated my complaints already. Feel free to add in an extra bit of inconsistency, interspersed with lower cased I's and "this thing called" or "there's this thing" or "there's this little thing called" type statements and 
 other redundancies.

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@severestormsteve1 you make me giggle. . well I don't know if you are aware, but people between the age of 5 and 18 normally have this thing they have to do monday through friday, september through june. it is called school, i'm guessing you have no clue what it is, going off your lack of well thought out responces, but yes sam is in school 5 days a week. so yes, if you are in unknown area hope you're cool sitting there until it's possible for a developer of a game to get you out cause you hate the admins being able to do it so much. oh yeah, and answer me 1 question, what is an unknown area? all the different types, please explain it and how it is stopped, i'd love to hear your responces.and i don't know if you are aware of how things work, but i am guessing you have no clue. a developer does this thing called develop. you know, write code, stuff like that, actually make the game. then there are these people called admins who keep the game run
 ning. they don't develop the backend, they only do the front end. that's what we do, the front end, the developer develops, and the admins administrate. i know it seems simple but i guess it is much more complicated then i thought before, judging by your confusion on it. you have these issues that only you personally have with admins or something, based on who knows what cause i see no reason for all the issues you have. they just don't add up. all at once you say sam fix bugs, then also say sam code this other crap that makes no sense so admins can't change maps or some crap...for no reason. you must be thinking admins just move themselves between maps for the fun of it? cause we admins have this thing we call last point of play. that is the last place we actually played the game, and if we want to play the game again we have to move to those coords on that map and pick up from there. there are limitations however, on the pk map, you can't just use it as yo
 ur last point of play, magically poof in front of someone and kill them. but other than that yes, we don't get free rain to just use admin abilities how we want, only for administration things. all i can assume is that you believe admins get to use the admin abilities for their own personal gain, cause if they do, demotion. there's no if ands or buts about it.and me butt hurt? just lol lol, the random postings of someone on a forum for blind people, carrys about as much weight as a random homeless person yelling at me on the street. i think everyone can see you are the one terrible upset over something, something that is imaginary at that. and why you feel the urge to rail, complain, cry and throw a fit about something in a game you don't play? i don't seem to get that either. if you don't like the way stw is ran or played then don't play it, you'd make everyone else a much happier person. i don't play lots of games i tried, and i also 
 have never gone and posted over and over on the threads for those games.i guess the one thing i'm really wondering is what is your real issue with stw. is it just stw or sam in general. do you go post on the swamp topic about all the things you are upset with on that game and that aprone needs to code more and release more updates and fix the bugs cause he makes money off the game? or is this just something you do on the stw topics? do you justify reasons for others but not stw and sam? and why not just say what your actual issue is with stw and the admins, instead of beating around the bush?oh yeah, and please tell me how many bugs sam has fixed in the past 6 months, or even what the last 10 bugs were he fixed, i'm assuming you know since you say he doesn't fix or work on bugs.

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@severestormsteve1 you make me giggle. . well I don't know if you are aware, but people between the age of 5 and 18 normally have this thing they have to do monday through friday, september through june. it is called school, i'm guessing you have no clue what it is, going off your lack of well thought out responces, but yes sam is in school 5 days a week. so yes, if you are in unknown area hope you're cool sitting there until it's possible for a developer of a game to get you out cause you hate the admins being able to do it so much. oh yeah, and answer me 1 question, what is an unknown area? all the different types, please explain it and how it is stopped, i'd love to hear your responces.and i don't know if you are aware of how things work, but i am guessing you have no clue. a developer does this thing called develop. you know, write code, stuff like that, actually make the game. then there are these people called admins who keep the game run
 ning. they don't develop the backend, they only do the front end. that's what we do, the front end, the developer develops, and the admins administrate. i know it seems simple but i guess it is much more complicated then i thought before, judging by your confusion on it. you have these issues that only you personally have with admins or something, based on who knows what cause i see no reason for all the issues you have. they just don't add up. all at once you say sam fix bugs, then also say sam code this other crap that makes no sense so admins can't change maps or some crap...for no reason. you must be thinking admins just move themselves between maps for the fun of it? cause we admins have this thing we call last point of play. that is the last place we actually played the game, and if we want to play the game again we have to move to those coords on that map and pick up from there. there are limitations however, on the pk map, you can't just use it as yo
 ur last point of play, magically poof in front of someone and kill them. but other than that yes, we don't get free rain to just use admin abilities how we want, only for administration things. all i can assume is that you believe admins get to use the admin abilities for their own personal gain, cause if they do, demotion. there's no if ands or buts about it.and me butt hurt? just lol lol, the random postings of someone on a forum for blind people, carrys about as much weight as a random homeless person yelling at me on the street. i think everyone can see you are the one terrible upset over something, something that is imaginary at that. and why you feel the urge to rail, complain, cry and throw a fit about something in a game you don't play? i don't seem to get that either. if you don't like the way stw is ran or played then don't play it, you'd make everyone else a much happier person. i don't play lots of games i tried, and i also 
 have never gone and posted over and over on the threads for those games.i guess the one thing i'm really wondering is what is your real issue with stw. is it just stw or sam in general. do you go post on the swamp topic about all the things you are upset with on that game and that aprone needs to code more and release more updates and fix the bugs cause he makes money off the game? or is this just something you do on the stw topics? do you justify reasons for others but not stw and sam? and why not just say what your actual issue is with stw and the admins, instead of beating around the bush?

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So you propose that admins use a /unstuck command instead? How would that work? Would it just move a player to the midde of the map? I'm sorry, but I still can't see your point. Isn't that what we are doing, already? It would just have to be automatic, no typing cords, so for each map sam would have to enter the desired location, because some maps are above ground. More work for the same result, I'd say. And we're not saying that Sam should not fix the bugs. We're just saying that someone needs to move the players before it is fixed, and it might as well be us. It's not like we are going to move you 100 tiles in the air; we're all friends here! 

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Then do a /unstuck command. It's not that hard. And please, why with the whole "Sam's not a robot" thing?Sorry boss, I'm not a robot. I can't come in to work this week, you see I actually have a life and I have another job to go to. See, I have two of them. You have to accept that. Oh by the way, still pay me. Please?Stop complaining that I'm not doing your job to your standards! I'm doing the best I can! Remember boss, I have two jobs and a life outside of them, so it's stressful! So stop wining at me and just, for the love of God, accept it!Sorry about that. It's just that your complaining has really gotten under my skin recently, boss. By the way, I can't remember - when is pay day?hmm.More to the point though yes, Amine, that's exactly what I'm saying. That's exactly, what, I'm saying. I know, it's like s like not like cool or anything, but holy crap yes. 
 I said the bugs in the game need fixing. Can you believe that?I agree with the whole shelters being destroyed thing, -- that's a fact of the game, the real world does not have indestructible shelters.

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Right, I got that, so you saying that Sam must fix the bugs that cause players to get stuck? Have you any ideas how much has he been trying to figure that out? Have you any ideas howmany look bugs did he have to fix yet? Have you any ideas what these bugs are even and how to produce them? Have you any idea how do players even get stuck in unknown area? Have you any idea how does the system work even?  I am pretty sure you know none of that.And what about building maps, how will admins move themselves from where to where if it wasn't for a moving command? Or will you just make it much harder. And finally, why and for what reason should the move command be removed? It makes no sense because it doesn't hurt at all that command ever existed!Moveto command will be just useless because players instead of moving they just keep on teleporting themselves to somewhere, and since it's easy to get to unknown area do to some bugs that Sam is trying to fix, they 
 could be abusing it.

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So the game would have to constantly track and remember each player's last location? Sounds impractical and probably a pain for the server. When a player is in unknown area, they aren't in some new map. They are in the same map, just out of the borders of the map. Because not every map is the same size, it would be hard for the system to realize when a player is in unknown area, so it wouldn't just track that location, too.Your /moveto idea seems like it would quickly get abused. People who weren't even a part of the event at all would move there just for fun and to annoy the organisators. It's also a very practical way to escape when someone is chasing you with pk on ... I can't see it working, sorry.

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