Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How would you spend this windfall? (DAC question)
darrenyeats wrote: Jez, The DAC2 (a) uses digital volume control in DAC mode and (b) in this mode it has 3.5db DSP headroom to cater for brick-walled recordings. I can mimic the above by (a) using digital volume control in my Touch and setting the HDR to 'calibrated mode', bypassing the volume pot for the DAC, and (b) keeping digi volume at or lower than 93. For me, this has improved the sound subjectively. (From everything I've been able to research, it should improve the -technical performance-, however for audibility I have no evidence to offer you like a properly controlled test.) Having said all that, I am willing to do swapsies with a DAC2 any time ... just let me know, chuckle! Darren Darren, I'm pretty sure the improvement in sq I hear between the DAC2 and DAC1 has got absolutely nothing to do with the 3.5db of headroom the DAC2 has .. most of my music is competently recorded classical and as such isn't brick-walled. Checking peak levels with JRiver I can find some climaxes hit 100% for a very brief moment, but my DAC2 is significantly better all the time, not just at orchestral peaks. You should try one! JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99265 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox Touch/Classic vs cheap USB DAC ?
If you could go to $169, maybe the Audioengine D1 is worth considering? It uses the AK4936 DAC, which I believe was also used in the Transporter. 'Here's' (http://www.avguide.com/review/audioengine-d1-dacheadphone-amp-playback-54) a review; 'here's' (http://audioengineusa.com/Store/Audioengine-D1) the manufacturer's website. I haven't got one .. just happened to come across it and noticed the connection with the Transporter. JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99141 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How would you spend this windfall? (DAC question)
I used to own a DAC1 HDR, and I now own a DAC2 HGC. The DAC1 was very good, but the DAC2 is, imo, a truly superb DAC. Beautiful, smooth, incredibly resolved, sweet. You can get one on 30 days free trial (and a DAC1 on the same deal), so you could make up your own mind. It also supports native DSD conversion for any DSD downloads you might want, or SACD rips if you can figure out how to do them. Plenty analogue and digital inputs and asynch USB. There are a couple of variants $200 cheaper - the 'D' which is digital inputs only, and the 'L' which drops the headphone outputs. JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99265 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiolabs M-DAC
JohnW has confirmed on the pinkfishmedia forum that he will be modifying SB Touches to take a clock signal from his M-DAC and so lock to it. 'See here' (http://www.pinkfishmedia.net/forum/showthread.php?t=109648page=70) -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
re FLAC streaming .. I notice that with LMS on the Settings Advanced Filtypes page, the first stream format (by default) is now AIFF. I remember being told awhile ago that the server goes down the list in order and picks the first non-disabled decoder. So does this mean that by default FLACs will now be streamed as AIFF with LMS? Is there a (good) reason for this? -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Cheers - last time I asked a similar question (pre LMS) I'm sure you said that it goes down the list of decoders in the order they are on the page - so has something changed or did I misremember? -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Logitech offer: 50% off any one item
The Transporter seems to have been completely discontinued in the UK. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89479 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] way to add AirPlay
I'm using an AE like this as a wireless bridge to feed one of my Touches in my kitchen. If I use the Touch on wireless, my microwave causes dropouts. But the AE can use 801.11n at 5Mhz and is more robust, so I connect my Touch via CAT5 to the AE. As a bonus I can use Airplay to stream anything from iTunes or my apple Touch (tv sound for example). -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89691 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Teddy Pardo Touch PSU
A Touch and a Pardo PSU and a lead will set you back around £500 in the UK - well on the way to a Sneaky-DS. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89017 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital Audio Myths
There a review of a Musical Fidelity V-DAC II, which has a much touted asynch USB interface, in this month's HiFi News. They measured 10psec of jitter over s/pdif, but 60-90psec over USB - much worse. So asynch USB doesn't seem necessarily to be the answer - it may be the better than non-asynch USB, but it's no guarantee of a good result. By contrast, Stereophile's review of the Benchmark DAC1 USB showed no difference in jitter between s/pdif and USB inputs - and the Benchmark doesn't have asynch USB - just good engineering! -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital Audio Myths
Everyone who spends more money on their system than I have is imagining the difference and has been fooled into parting with their money. Everyone who spends less money on their system than I have has a bad system. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital Audio Myths
you really think you can defend your system by producing citations of double-blind peer-reviewed trials showing the superiority of each component in it to any cheaper alternatives? -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Serverbox server performance
Why is the option there if it has no effect? -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90312 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 1900 euros + tax for digital upgrade and power supply for Duet
darrenyeats;654434 Wrote: For that money, Benchmark HDR gives you a whole lot of functionality and a good DAC thrown in too. Darren I paid not much more than half that for my Benchmark HDR, and it is indeed superb when fed by a (unmodified) Touch - or any other digital source. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90022 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 1900 euros + tax for digital upgrade and power supply for Duet
Harry G;654452 Wrote: If your very nice $1000 DAC is the best you've heard, you don't have a frame of reference to judge this and if you haven't heard his silly named product you certainly can't judge it. Where is this guy? I don't see any geographic reference and his stilted English is different from that of any European I know. When did I say my DAC is the best I've heard? And I'm quite capable of making judgements about products I haven't heard; if someone offered to modify a lawnmower to make it into a Ferrari for more money than a new Ferrari I'd be similarly sceptical. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90022 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 1900 euros + tax for digital upgrade and power supply for Duet
For two grand you can modify a Duet by throwing it in a dustbin and buying something else! Like a really good DAC! -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90022 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any experience with this DAC
The review says it's not as good as a Dacmagic, so it can't be very good! -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89581 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
I have a Benchmark. I thought about trying these mods and heard a huge difference so didn't bother. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Teddy Pardo Touch PSU
The more interesting comparison would be a (modded or otherwise) Touch into any DAC vs a Linn DS. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89017 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] technical question about sample frequency and bit depth digital output
Mynb - are you saying that a Touch will pad a 16/44.1 signal to 24/44.1 before outputting it on s/pdif? Where is this stated anywhere? -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89273 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] technical question about sample frequency and bit depth digital output
Cheers. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89273 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] technical question about sample frequency and bit depth digital output
OK. Might a DAC behave differently with 24bits rather than 16? -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89273 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Teflon tape
If only John Lennon had had teflon tape to wind round his guitar lead, his microphone lead, the desk, the cutting lathe, the . -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89174 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Teflon tape
I just put my frying pan on top of my head and everything sounds better. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89174 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Teddy Pardo Touch PSU
Why not try a Linn Sneaky-DS? Not much more money, s/pdif out .. made by a hifi company .. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89017 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Teddy Pardo Touch PSU
I meant using the s/pdif output of the Sneaky into your M1. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89017 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Teddy Pardo Touch PSU
Wombat;644334 Wrote: I wondered already also. It is funny to see how some write in the original thread at diyaudio.com Soundcheck started and proclaims all his mods in the end some simply find their old CD-Transport better as the Touch with all kinds of mods. Ok, it is just some claims coming from the same kind of people but nonetheless funny! :) If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If it is broke, don't fix it. Junk it. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89017 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Teddy Pardo Touch PSU
You're just poking around in the dark man. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89017 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Garage Conversion - Sound advice ?
You'll get the best out of the Touch by connecting it to a better DAC, imo. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Garage Conversion - Sound advice ?
Get a better DAC! -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox audio quality, really that good ?
So .. supposing everyone did what they did .. and supposing a cd had a million sales and everyone ripped it .. abd backed it up to 2 other places .. there would be 3 or 4 million copies of it on the planet .. which is taking redundancy a bit far, isn't it? -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88540 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox audio quality, really that good ?
ralphpnj;639548 Wrote: Remember that iCloud is only one iVirus away from iDisaster. So's the water that comes out of your tap, or the electricity you use! -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88540 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox audio quality, really that good ?
any centralised distributed service is vulnerable to attack - an english teenager has just hacked into the CIA from his bedroom for example - we live with the threat because of the advantages. once upon a time people had cds and had similar anxieties about ripping them and putting them on their own networks; now they're worrying about storing stuff in the cloud .. me personally, i'm looking forward to when everything is in the cloud, intelligently mirrored on whatever local devices i fancy. just like it's nice to have electricity wherever i happen to be. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88540 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Garage Conversion - Sound advice ?
Very nice. How far away are you sitting? -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox audio quality, really that good ?
erland;638616 Wrote: Has anyone done any comparison/blind test between Squeezebox Classic/Touch and compared them with Sonos, Teac or some other device at similar price range using analogue outputs ? Why believe anyone elses blind tests? Why not do one yourself? -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88540 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blind tests? I don't get it...
How do you do a double-blind test of a pretty girl? -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88345 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox audio quality, really that good ?
I thought my Squeezebox Duet was pretty bad through it's analogue outputs; my Touch is just about OK for background listening. Neither are remotely audiophile quality. The digital outputs of a Touch feeding a Benchmark DAC is a much more listenable proposition. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88540 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blind tests? I don't get it...
I went to a great concert the other day. Oh, sorry, not allowed to say that, because I didn't do a blind A/B test with another concert. So, I must have imagined it then. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88345 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can a netbook fully replace a squeezebox?
Not sure what 'theory' says that it 'should' sound better than a Touch; maybe it will, maybe it won't. Depends on all sorts of things. If the DAC is sensitive to other software running on the computer it is not a good omen imo. Minimising latency is important in studios (where they use s/pdif); async USB has (relatively) enormous amounts of latency in any case so you should be able to run whatever you like on your laptop, otherwise how can the async USB convertor you propose be doing it's job of decoupling the DAC from the netbook. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88181 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New 24bit/192kHz Squeezebox Product
cliveb;636006 Wrote: Quite so. Many years ago it was a lovely summer Sunday afternoon. I had the windows open and happened to play Beethoven's 6th Symphony, at a fairly decent volume. When it finished, applause came from next door's back garden. Must be the 100As - my upstairs neighbour says he relaxes listening to mine also - although maybe it's Beethoven - I love the 6th and play it a lot. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88056 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Garage Conversion - Sound advice ?
Leave some money in case you need some discreet room treatment - from the pictures it seems very hard, with parallel surfaces, and almost the same height as width - not very good omens imo. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New 24bit/192kHz Squeezebox Product
.. surely a really good stereo should entertain the neighbours and have them knocking on your door asking you to turn it up ..! -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88056 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can a netbook fully replace a squeezebox?
I've played around a bit with using a laptop to replace a squeezebox, as this might suit me more in the future. Didn't really care for foobar - too geeky for me, but I can see how folk like it. I'd probably use Asset UPnP as a UPnP server, with dbpoweramp renaissance as the UPnP player on the netbook/laptop, controlled via Plugplayer on my apple Touch. Alternatively the J River Media Center is a tremendously verstatile player - many advantages over Squeezecenter - which can also be used in a UPnP configuration - and if you are prepared to pay for apps, then Songbook would do for UPnP what iPeng does for Squeezecenter. Essentially once you move away from a squeezebox to a netbook/pc/laptop, there are many alternatives to Squeezecenter, so I suggest playing with the products I mention, rather than trying to bodge squeezecenter into doing stuff it's not designed to. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88181 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can a netbook fully replace a squeezebox?
Try the J River Media Center UI Phil, alas it leaves the SBS one in the dust. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88181 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Jitter article
'Here' (http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Linux/Sound3/TimeForChange.html) is an article about jitter possibly more relevant to music - the author relates jitter to wow and flutter in analogue systems, arguing that there's a lot more to it than a single measurment. I think HiFi News are adopting his test as being more revealing than the conventional one. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88081 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Garage Conversion - Sound advice ?
All the o/ps decisions seem to have been made without listening or any acoustics calculations, not the best way to get a good result. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Garage Conversion - Sound advice ?
Putting speakers close to walls does NOT improve the bass! Usually the opposite. Stand close to a wall and talk to see what I mean. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Price of a 2nd-hand Transporter ?
browellm;634432 Wrote: For parts availability, yes. In every other way, no. Why? -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87978 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Price of a 2nd-hand Transporter ?
That's Linn Sneaky DS kinda money .. a product with more of a future, perhaps. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87978 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Garage Conversion - Sound advice ?
What evidence have you got that the speakers will be any good in your room? None. So why commit yourself so soon? Why not wait till the room is finished - at least that gives you the chance to return or swap the speakers if you don't like them. And to try others. Your room isn't particularly hifi friendly, and you're spending a lot of money, so why not give yourself a better chance of success than picking speakers you've never heard in your room? -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Garage Conversion - Sound advice ?
Flexibility good. Early binding decisions (wall-mounts) bad. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Garage Conversion - Sound advice ?
Who cares what What Hi Fi think or say? The only thing that matters is how they sound in your room - maybe they'll sound good, maybe they won't, maybe other speakers will sound better, maybe they won't. If I were you I'd find a good dealer who could lend me a few different speakers so I could try them out properly and reach a conclusion based on my own experience. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Garage Conversion - Sound advice ?
Well if you're committed to the speakers without having heard them in your own home, at least wait till the room's furnished and play around with them before you commit to stands or even more wall mounts. Try the different listening positions you have speculated here about. Get some cheap height adjustable stands. Take care not to damage the speakers - they may sound dreadful and you may wish to sell them. You're running blind. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Garage Conversion - Sound advice ?
I'd go for speakers 6' apart and sit 6' away on axis with nothing between me and the speakers. But then that's just me. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Garage Conversion - Sound advice ?
There's not necessarily a dining table in the way Phil; didn't his previous post say: Alternatively the table goes nearer to the window and we sit in front of the speakers about 5-6ft away. Gap between speakers 6ft. Or have I misunderstood? The man has to decide whether dining table gets best sound or he does. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Garage Conversion - Sound advice ?
Why not use acoustic plasterboard as well? -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Garage Conversion - Sound advice ?
.. and triangulate the bracing so there are no regular rectangular panels. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Garage Conversion - Sound advice ?
What are you trying to do? Stop sound escaping or make your room sound good inside? -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dac for SBT
Any decent dealer will let you have a home dem of a Benchmark - and if you buy online you've 7 days to return it in any case. Just listen, make your own mind up with your own music in your own system. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87518 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dac for SBT
Nobody 'needs' a Benchmark. Nobody 'needs' a Touch for that matter. All I can say is I would much rather have my DAC1 than the money I spent on it. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87518 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dac for SBT
Sorry .. though I do have similar equipment to darren and I have listened to the DAC in the Touch through a pre-amp compared to the Benchmark through the same pre-amp then into active speakers. There is just no comparison whatsoever. I bought the Benchmark immediately. I have a second Touch in my kitchen used into an amp for background listening; it is fine for that. But for serious listening the sound quality of the Benchmark is utterly sensational in every respect you can think of and probably many you can't. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87518 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dac for SBT
A Benchmark DAC1 HDR gives a huge improvement to the Touch (ime) (imo) (ymmv). -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87518 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shielded Mains Cables
You might find some of the products from 'Holland Shielding systems' (http://www.hollandshielding.com/) worthwhile - insulating foils, cable wraps, faraday cages - even a faraday tent! -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shielded Mains Cables
Loads and loads of power-line filters 'here' (http://www.hollandshielding.com/index.php?p=Nieuwsid=150Lang=2). Whose hi-fi is in a truly shielded case? Is the plastic over the display shielded? Are the mains-inlets? If not the RF hobgoblins will find their way in and out effortlessly. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shielded Mains Cables
Lol. I never understood why Naim bothered to design a tuner when a NAC12 got so many stations. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Upgrade from touch+cambridge 840c
I imagine the Klimax owners will sell their 'spare' Klimax through ebay or the normal channels. The upgrade isn't out yet, so that's why you won't have seen any. imo buy a Transporter to use as a transport to another DAC is misguided as well as wasteful. Either the Transporter is good enough (for you) or it is not. If you want a different DAC then any decent DAC should be as good with a Touch as it is with a Transporter. But once you mate a streamer with a separate external DAC you are, in a sense, going backwards by introducing s/pdif and all it's problems. Which is why a high quality network music player, like a transport or Linn DS or Naim NDX for that matter to me makes more sense for you. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87098 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Upgrade from touch+cambridge 840c
A Linn Akurate or Majik seems to me the most logical way to go - checkout the Linn Forum - they have announced an upgrade to the Klimax DS which includes putting the old Klimax DS board in a new box, which some owners are planning to sell on for quite modest (ie less than Akurate DS) prices. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87098 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] S/PDIF cables should be (a) - =1.5m or (b) as short as possible?
If the length of an s/pdif cable makes a difference to your DAC, don't buy more s/pdif cables, sell your DAC and buy one that works properly. Why throw good money after bad? -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84751 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
Does WEP wireless encryption sound better or worse than WPA2? What is the best sounding encryption key you have tried? I like WEP with an encryption key of bbcc33221c the most, but I haven't tried all possibilities yet. Sometimes there is more space between the silences with bbcc33222d but at the expense of soundstage widthness. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
But then again if the processor has less work to do it's idle loop may generate rf at a higher but more stable frequency which could interact malevolently with some of the 1's or even hurt the feeling of a few 0's as opposed to the more generally random noise that permeates the ionosphere when the procesor has some decrypting work to do. And as for the blackness of the background, well, that is anyone's guess. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
The most important thing is to make sure all your digital cables are level, because 0's are heavier than 1's and if the cables are allowed to run downhill, the 0's will actually overtake the 1's after about 1m or so. This is the real reason that optical sounds so different from co-ax s/pdif - optical is more slippery so the 0's squeeze past the 1's more easily. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
Tom186;624753 Wrote: Clearer. More authoritative in the bass area. Closer to my reference (an async USB connection from my Mac into the rDAC). But the real answer is: There is only one way to find out. Why should that be a reference? -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
'Here' (http://www.stereophile.com/content/linn-majik-ds-i-da-integrated-amplifier-manufacturers-comment-2) are some measurements from right inside a Linn Majik DS-I network DAC showing the effects of the processor loading the powersupply every 5ms as an ethernet packet is received. So, such effects are measurable. Notice also that Linn say that the measured jitter inside the DS I is eight times worse via s/pdif than the jitter via ethernet. Doesn't mean you can extrapolate from this to any other player. Isn't it about time people on this thread backed up their speculations by some similarly clear measurements? -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
adamdea - I think the Linn measurements are in response to Stereophile's measurements, so it's probably worth reading those as well to get the context. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] In Wall speakers for garage conversion
It's quite hard to decouple the speakers from the wall - especially a stud wall and especially if you use 'in-wall' loudspeakers - most of which actually clip to the wall and so transmit a lot of energy to it. Many are just rebadged car speakers too. Not what you want. I'd go for a pair of ATC SCM7s and mount them in a way that decouples them from the wall as much as possible, and make your own grill. Wall brackets might be a good compromise - especially if they are designed by the same people that make the speakers. PMC DB1s have some nice ones, and are fine speakers too. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86528 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] squeezebox setup for audiophiles
Add up all the money you propose to spend on fancy power supplies, cables, NAS's and other voodoo. Spend it on a Transporter. Job done, right. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86419 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] squeezebox setup for audiophiles
If the people who design and make products design and make them properly they shouldn't need tweaking. If they do need tweaking, why throw good money after bad? Why not just buy something that works right in the first place? -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86419 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] squeezebox setup for audiophiles
I agree that many designs have trade-offs. But in the context of this thread, where the o/p was trying to improve a Touch by (among other things) changing the power cable on his NAS, I am trying to suggest that, in the first instance, the best people to improve a Touch are Logitech themselves; the Touch is designed to one price, a Transporter to a considerably higher price so is more likely to offer an improvement than 3rd party products. Perhaps there are ways of improving a Transporter too. (Though if a mains cable on a NAS did so, I would be very worried). -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86419 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q
If you can't hear the difference buy the cheapest. If you can hear a difference, ask whether the cable is good, or defective; or whether your hifi is good, or defective; or whether your hearing is good or defective. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q
Robin Bowes;618495 Wrote: On 16/03/11 14:04, JezA wrote: If you can't hear the difference buy the cheapest. If you can hear a difference, ask whether the cable is good, or defective; or whether your hifi is good, or defective; or whether your hearing is good or defective. This is classic audiophile reasoning: if I can't hear a difference it must be because there's something wrong somewhere. Could it possibly be that I don't hear a difference because there *isn't* any difference?? R. -- Feed that ego and you starve the soul - Colonel J.D. Wilkes http://www.theshackshakers.com/ Of course it could. But then again, there might be many other reasons why you don't hear a difference that does exist. Don't worry about it. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q
Hands up who can hear where the edits are in (say) a classical music recording? Does that mean there aren't any? -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q
Simon Marius' claims to have seen the moons of Jupiter were dismissed by his critics as syphilitic hallucinations. Everyone knew the sun went round the earth. He must have imagined them, mustn't he. Don't hear what you don't want to hear. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q
On 'this thread' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78938highlight=power+cordpage=2) John Swenson gave a decent argument, which he can no doubt support by measurement, that power-cables can cause things to which they are connected to behave differently in the audio domain. A good engineer or scientist starts with observation and goes looking for reasons. Who knows what he might find. If you can't hear these differences, don't worry about it. Don't hear what you don't want to hear. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q
Daverz;618278 Wrote: I find this rather petulant. Do you have anything to suggest that skepticism isn't warranted? Nothing wrong with skepticism at all; a good skeptic would put the claim to the test. So which cables have you listened to comparitively in your system? Since you do not believe any differences are possible, what steps have you taken to eliminate such bias from your observations? -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q
Where else does the experience of music exist if not in your mind? -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q
A cable can't create information, so DSP isn't the answer. The best you can hope for is that it doesn't lose any. Some amplifiers are horrifically sensitive to speaker cables - Naim amps, for example, go unstable (which is certainly measurable!) unless they have a couple of metres or so of cable with adequate inductance, such as Naims own cable. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q
Eriko;617959 Wrote: I don´t understand that statement and don´t know what one has to do with the other. IMO, no cable that fulfills general requirements for its purpose, can be the weakest link. I did state, given that one has a transparent system (meaning having all the information there), a DSP (other than having a special acoustic-room built specifically for your needs) is the only logical thing to use for tweaking the sound for one´s preference/needs. NOT wire If a cable loses information DSP can't create it. You are thinking about hi-fi in terms of tonal balance. There's a lot more to it than that. Could you DSP me into Eric Clapton? -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q
Daverz;618002 Wrote: Except that differences between cables is the dogma, with no scientific support for it. As long as we specify a minimum gauge for a given length of wire (and 16AWG is probably adequate in most cases). Why do you say 16AWG is adequate? What scientific support do you have for that claim? It certainly isn't sufficient for a Naim amp for example. Like I said, if you can't hear the differences don't worry about it. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q
Eriko;617988 Wrote: Doesn´t look like you´re reading carefully enough what I´m saying or responding too. My first reply, was to the statement using a cable to tame a bright system., which has indeed to do with tonal balance. I also said, given a cable that meets all general requirements for its purpose. This would indeed mean it´s not losing information Also, using DSP, I actually have gained information I hadn´t noticed before. Getting rid of bloomy or bass bumps, cutting some of the highs in the 3500-10.000hz, I heard nuances that had been masked because of uneven tonal balance, in addition to a much better tonal balance. Boosting 100-200hz which were according to the sound meter, too low, I also got more drive. If a cable changes the tonal balance of a system it must be losing information. In particular, information about the tonal balance of the recording! -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q
Why 5%? Why not 3.6%? Or 6.2%? Where are the double-blind peer reviewed published studies to support such a claim? Nowhere. It's just another opinion dressed up with a few graphs, some woefully incomplete electronics and plenty of gratuitous insults. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox
stop-spinning - you can't get high-end sound from cheap products. end of story. Look around for a Benchmark DAC1 USB second hand - should be able to get one for medium hundreds. A definite high-end, studio quality product. Proper async USB. Other s/pdif inputs and a volume control so exceedingly versatile. Similar money to a Touch/V-link/cheapo DAC. Use it with your current laptop. Get ripping. Add streaming options when you've got some more money. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84903 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox
Robin Bowes;615833 Wrote: On 06/03/11 12:23, JezA wrote: stop-spinning - you can't get high-end sound from cheap products. end of story. Not true. R. So .. what's your actual suggestion? -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84903 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox
Eriko;615891 Wrote: I´m not Robin Bowes, but IMO, the SB3 internal dac with Inguz EQ (free), beats any dac regardless of price. The subtle differences between modern dacs and/or transports are irrelevant in comparison to getting the 20-200 hz frequencies to only vary -+ 2db and cutting the 3khz-10khz by 2.5 db as my speakers are on the bright side, but very transparent. That´s not my setup btw. I use Touch into the CA 840C Dac with Inguz as previously stated. Which DACs 'regardless of price' have you actually tried? Could Inguz not 'improve' those equally? -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84903 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox
You still haven't made any concrete suggestions Robin. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84903 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox
Robin Bowes;615943 Wrote: On 06/03/11 20:15, JezA wrote: You still haven't made any concrete suggestions Robin. What part of ...I think a Touch with a good amp/speaker combination, or a pair of good active speakers... is not specific? R. -- You think a Touch is high end!? -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84903 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HDTracks raises prices - again
The HDTracks Rolling Stones material comes from DSD remasters done around 2002 by ABCKO and Bob Ludwig which were then released on dual format CD/SACD. Many years of research went into locating the original mono and stereo analog tapes that would be used in ABKCO's Rolling Stones Remastered Series. That research revealed a treasure trove of first generation tapes - true stereo masters from The Stones' 1964 Chess Studios sessions including the unedited version of 2120 South Michigan Avenue, Beggar's Banquet at its correct speed and Let It Bleed with splicing that indicates that the original intention was to leave little spacing between each cut. For the analog to digital transfers, vintage reel-to-reel tape machines were utilized - a modified Ampex 351 with original tube electronics (full track mono and two track stereo) and an Ampex ATR-102 modified with Aria Discrete Class-A Electronics (full track mono and two track stereo). A Sonoma DSD digital audio workstation was the chosen high resolution format and Meitner Design ADC8 and DAC8 MKlV converters were used for the conversion process. Cables used were the cryogenically frozen type supplied to us by Gus Skinas of Super Audio Center. Gus also provided much guidance to Jody Klein, Steve Rosenthal and myself for our first time use of DSD technology. For this HD Tracks release, the Bob Ludwig mastered DSD files were converted to both 176.4kHz and 88.2kHz high resolution PCM with Weiss Saracon conversion software. - Teri Landi, Archivist and Engineer, ABKCO Music Records -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86017 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
soundcheck - is your DAC wide open to RF or noise on the mains? Surely there's something profoundly wrong with it, or something else in your system, if it is sensitive to a server? -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HDTracks raises prices - again
Since when has 40 year old analogue tape been 24/192? Much of the HDTracks catalogue is similarly ancient and suspect - they are selling very little that has been recorded and mastered in hi-res digital. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86017 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HDTracks raises prices - again
Mynb - yep, I have many superb Linn CDs/HDCDs/SACDs and I've ripped them to HDCD where possible. I've also bought some of their Studio Master downloads. All magnificent. The most recent Mackerras Mozart Symphony set is an especial favourite of mine - an unforgettable experience. They've just won Gramophone record company of the year. I think they are far more entitled to call their downloads genuine 24/192 than HDtracks. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86017 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HDTracks raises prices - again
ralphpnj;615215 Wrote: There is no reasoning with a Linnie. Care to explain and justify that remark ralph? -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86017 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
