Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
F...and of course I responded by calling the product pure BS and of course I was dismissed with some typical audiophile mumbo jumbo... What goes around, comes around. Don't get me wrong, this laminar thing is marketing fuzz at its worst. But I really think you guys sometimes overdo. Quad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
Quad wrote: What goes around, comes around. Don't get me wrong, this laminar thing is marketing fuzz at its worst. But I really think you guys sometimes overdo. Yes probably , but think of it as a long lever :) as the majority of the audio hoby have turned into this mess... But that particular company is very very shady ,have a look at thier blackbody http://www.lessloss.com/blackbody-p-200.html And thier power conditioner ,seems equally suspicius ? skin effect filter really :) And are we overdiong it in this particular case ? The whole company seems to totally geared to fool suspectibale audio hobyists , the products are just a mean to ends . They just make them to tick all the boxes in the typical audiophile new age belief system and market heavilly from there ? actual performance is not even an issue ? They are also selling a speaker brand i actuallynknow nothing about so they have mixed their voodo products with some actually working stuff but thaats just clever . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
Mnyb wrote: You can't really make this up :) Ah, a good one! Computer operating systems are extensive and require many services, which all compete for processing time. These processes are allocated according to what are called priorities. It is known through the world-wide consensus of experienced computer audio tweakers that the more services you can disengage, the better the resulting audio. The stream becomes more laminar, less turbulent. Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
Julf wrote: Ah, a good one! Computer operating systems are extensive and require many services, which all compete for processing time. These processes are allocated according to what are called priorities. It is known through the world-wide consensus of experienced computer audio tweakers that the more services you can disengage, the better the resulting audio. The stream becomes more laminar, less turbulent. That is actually a gem , this is how they do it laminar and turbulent streams are fluid dynamics (hydrodynamics and aearodynamics) it has nothing to do with information ,you could aswell ask about the taste of bits , I want blueberry zeros and vanilla ones :) But to non technical people this may actually sound like plausible technobable , but its snipped from something completly different much of the stuff these kind of scammers use for marketting blurb is real but taken out of it's context . Well much of the blackbody stuff is science fiction :) Non technical people may take another viewpiont to see trough this ,does not this look too good to be true , they can solve all problems an audiophile seems to have and even some you did not know that you had ? Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
Mnyb wrote: That is actually a gem , this is how they do it laminar and turbulent streams are fluid dynamics (hydrodynamics and aearodynamics) it has nothing to do with information ,you could aswell ask about the taste of bits , I want blueberry zeros and vanilla ones :) But to non technical people this may actually sound like plausible technobable , but its snipped from something completly different much of the stuff these kind of scammers use for marketting blurb is real but taken out of it's context . Well much of the blackbody stuff is science fiction :) Non technical people may take another viewpiont to see trough this ,does not this look too good to be true , they can solve all problems an audiophile seems to have and even some you did not know that you had ? The funny thing is that there several parallels between electrical current and fluid flow. For example current and fluid both flow from high to low potential. A tank acts like a capacitor, a check valve acts like a diode, etc. Another strange thing is that sometimes one wants a turbulent and not laminar flow, however I can't think of good example right now. ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
Archimago wrote: That's pure BS Waldo and you know it! Hex coding sounded prickly as hell with all those 16 sides... BINARY is where it's at! Makes PCM sound DSD! Music of the gods, my friend... :-) OK. I will try using a laser to zap those cells in the ROM one by one :) Sadly I work with people who I could sell this idea to Waldo Pepper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
You can't really make this up :) http://www.lessloss.com/laminar-streamer-sd-player-p-207.html These are the clowns behind the blackbody a product I usually link too when we are having fun Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
Mnyb wrote: You can't really make this up :) http://www.lessloss.com/laminar-streamer-sd-player-p-207.html These are the clowns behind the blackbody a product I usually link too when we are having fun Funny thing is one of your fellow Swedes linked to the laminar streamer on the Stereophile forum back in December (http://forum.stereophile.com/content/i-cant-wait) and of course I responded by calling the product pure BS and of course I was dismissed with some typical audiophile mumbo jumbo. Will audiophiles ever learn? ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
ralphpnj wrote: Funny thing is one of your fellow Swedes linked to the laminar streamer on the Stereophile forum back in December (http://forum.stereophile.com/content/i-cant-wait) and of course I responded by calling the product pure BS and of course I was dismissed with some typical audiophile mumbo jumbo. Will audiophiles ever learn? No they will not , all we can hope for is no new recruits and that that nature will have it's way . the hobby dies with the last confused audiophool , a very rich one a DAC would then cost 3B$ as he have the finance the whole thing at 1 customer. And a couple of decades later the hobby get resurrected by some cool people :) (cue riding into the sunshine ) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
Mnyb wrote: You must also hand type the source code into the compiler . Nah. Waste of time. I found it sounded even better by typing the hex straight into a hex editor and saving that as a kernal. The sound was much more warmer with added colour in the bass. Waldo Pepper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
Waldo Pepper wrote: Nah. Waste of time. I found it sounded even better by typing the hex straight into a hex editor and saving that as a kernal. The sound was much more warmer with added colour in the bass. That's pure BS Waldo and you know it! Hex coding sounded prickly as hell with all those 16 sides... BINARY is where it's at! Makes PCM sound DSD! Music of the gods, my friend... :-) Archimago's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2207 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
ralphpnj wrote: To me the CA site is no different from any the high end audio magazines. The site's founder aka The Computer Audiophile, to his credit, has managed to ingratiate into the elite regions of high end audio and he is now unwilling to do anything which might rock the boat and therefore stop the flow of test equipment and any other perks which might come his way for being a complaisant part the high end circus (hint he has become one of those character with the big red noses). Yup, I had an argument with the guy about a month after CA started posting stuff. It was yet another claim to which USB cable sounds better. I tried to point out that the devices he was using were async and buffered, and what he was claiming was impossible. All I got back was la la la, I can't hear you. SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
SuperQ wrote: Yup, I had an argument with the guy about a month after CA started posting stuff. It was yet another claim to which USB cable sounds better. I tried to point out that the devices he was using were async and buffered, and what he was claiming was impossible. All I got back was la la la, I can't hear you. So you got back a la, la, la The cable company got some fools buying over priced USB cables. And the CA (perhaps) got some nice speaker cables. ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
garym wrote: Unrelated to this thread, but interestingly, your eyes may be important in what you hear (the reason many of us prefer double blind testing to remove biases in comparisons). See this for a very interesting example, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-lN8vWm3m0 That's a bit different from looking at spectrographs of files and saying that because of something you're seeing that you can hear it though ;) They are very important in your example though. It's a large reason why 'audiophiles' exist ;) This is more expensive than that, so it must be better and I must buy it! probedb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7825 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
Wombat wrote: It often goes: How does it sound - spectral plot posted - that sounds good! Indeed, I'm often surprised at how good my eyes are at hearing :) probedb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7825 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
probedb wrote: Indeed, I'm often surprised at how good my eyes are at hearing :) Unrelated to this thread, but interestingly, your eyes may be important in what you hear (the reason many of us prefer double blind testing to remove biases in comparisons). See this for a very interesting example, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-lN8vWm3m0 garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
garym wrote: Unrelated to this thread, but interestingly, your eyes may be important in what you hear (the reason many of us prefer double blind testing to remove biases in comparisons). Well, there is a special form of the Gurk Effect whereby seeing the price tag of a piece of gear, or reading the review of it in an audiophile publication significantly affects what we hear :) Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
Julf wrote: Well, there is a special form of the Gurk Effect whereby seeing the price tag of a piece of gear, or reading the review of it in an audiophile publication significantly affects what we hear :) definitely! (for some at least) garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
Wombat wrote: Seems this place has some very experienced and valuable listeners and members while they developed some mercy for the metaphysical arguying people. They just let them speak and give them a place. If you are talking about CA, I beg to differ. It is still dominated by some very loud and obnoxious subjectivists, and the moderator pushes a you can't question someone's subjective impressions policy. I think Eloise summarizes it very well in her comment: I'm sorry but when people post subjective opinions that tweak x improves a system; and someone says well all objective evidence points that the difference is impossible they are told they are acting impolitely. Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
Julf wrote: If you are talking about CA, I beg to differ. It is still dominated by some very loud and obnoxious subjectivists, and the moderator pushes a you can't question someone's subjective impressions policy. I think Eloise summarizes it very well in her comment: I'm sorry but when people post subjective opinions that tweak x improves a system; and someone says well all objective evidence points that the difference is impossible they are told they are acting impolitely. To me the CA site is no different from any the high end audio magazines. The site's founder aka The Computer Audiophile, to his credit, has managed to ingratiate into the elite regions of high end audio and he is now unwilling to do anything which might rock the boat and therefore stop the flow of test equipment and any other perks which might come his way for being a complaisant part the high end circus (hint he has become one of those character with the big red noses). ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
Julf wrote: If you are talking about CA, I beg to differ. It is still dominated by some very loud and obnoxious subjectivists, and the moderator pushes a you can't question someone's subjective impressions policy. I think Eloise summarizes it very well in her comment: I'm sorry but when people post subjective opinions that tweak x improves a system; and someone says well all objective evidence points that the difference is impossible they are told they are acting impolitely. You are right. I didn´t read there much anymore because of getting headaches when following the logic of some members there. Must be some of the most paranormal hardliners are more or less directly involved in the business that makes money with the gullible. The short snippest i sometimes did read made me think it became better. I see you often report things about HD releases. Strange that nearly for every new HDtracks release there is a thread started with some innocent question about its sound. It often goes: How does it sound - spectral plot posted - that sounds good! By accident the adds on that page include HDtracks :) Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
Wombat wrote: It often goes: How does it sound - spectral plot posted - that sounds good! The other variation is How does it sound - spectral plot posted showing no HF energy or blatant upsample - that sounds good! Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
you guys do know you are listening to a computer and not some magic fairy box, of course different kernels will sound different and the way they are compiled likewise. SBGK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52003 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
SBGK wrote: you guys do know you are listening to a computer and not some magic fairy box, of course different kernels will sound different and the way they are compiled likewise. I can only assume that by compiled you really mean cooked because what I have experienced during my extensive listening tests to various kernels is as follows, listed worst to best sounding: 16) microwaved canned yellow corn kernels 15) stove top heated canned yellow corn kernels 14) microwaved canned white corn kernels 13) stove top heated canned white corn kernels 12) microwaved frozen yellow corn kernels 11) stove top heated frozen yellow corn kernels 10) microwaved frozen white corn kernels 9) stove top heated frozen white corn kernels 8) microwaved fresh yellow corn kernels 7) stove top heated fresh yellow corn kernels 6) microwaved fresh white corn kernels 5) stove top heated fresh white corn kernels 4) grilled without husk yellow corn kernels 3) grilled without husk white corn kernels 2) grilled with husk still on yellow corn kernels and finally, by a night and day margin 1) grilled with husk still on white corn kernels Please understand that these results are not the final say on the is largely unexplored area of audio, however these results should not taken lightly unless by that one means lightly buttered. Lots more research still needs to be done and I welcome any and all input from my fellow audiophiles. So far we can safely conclude that white corn kernels cooked by conventional, i.e. not microwaved, methods appear to sound best. Please feel free to cross post these findings to any audio related site. ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
ralphpnj wrote: I can only assume that by compiled you really mean cooked because what I have experienced during my extensive listening tests to various kernels is as follows, listed worst to best sounding: 16) microwaved canned yellow corn kernels 15) stove top heated canned yellow corn kernels 14) microwaved canned white corn kernels 13) stove top heated canned white corn kernels 12) microwaved frozen yellow corn kernels 11) stove top heated frozen yellow corn kernels 10) microwaved frozen white corn kernels 9) stove top heated frozen white corn kernels 8) microwaved fresh yellow corn kernels 7) stove top heated fresh yellow corn kernels 6) microwaved fresh white corn kernels 5) stove top heated fresh white corn kernels 4) grilled without husk yellow corn kernels 3) grilled without husk white corn kernels 2) grilled with husk still on yellow corn kernels and finally, by a night and day margin 1) grilled with husk still on white corn kernels Please understand that these results are not the final say on the is largely unexplored area of audio, however these results should not taken lightly unless by that one means lightly buttered. Lots more research still needs to be done and I welcome any and all input from my fellow audiophiles. So far we can safely conclude that white corn kernels cooked by conventional, i.e. not microwaved, methods appear to sound best. Please feel free to cross post these findings to any audio related site. Note: there are better ways to respond to some posts than resorting to name calling. OMG Ralph, you have just saved me YEARS of testing, tweaking, and auditioning. Thankyou. These results demand at least a letter to TAS! Archimago's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2207 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
SBGK wrote: you guys do know you are listening to a computer and not some magic fairy box, of course different kernels will sound different and the way they are compiled likewise. Fixed it for you: you guys do know you are listening to a computer and not some magic fairy box, of course different stable kernels will sound no different and the way they are compiled probably irrelevant. Archimago's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2207 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
Archimago wrote: OMG Ralph, you have just saved me YEARS of testing, tweaking, and auditioning. Thankyou. These results demand at least a letter to TAS! Okay I wasn't supposed to let you know this but I am in the middle of negotiations with TAS regarding having these very important findings published. But please KEEP IT QUIET! ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
ralphpnj wrote: Okay I wasn't supposed to let you know this but I am in the middle of negotiations with TAS regarding having these very important findings published. But please KEEP IT QUIET! Good luck man! Hope it turns out to be a 3-parter and may the $$$ flow in tandem. Archimago's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2207 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
Archimago wrote: Good luck man! Hope it turns out to be a 3-parter and may the $$$ flow in tandem. The hard work must be rewarded! You wouldn't happen to know where I get a large frilly collar, an orange afro wig and a big red stick-on nose? If I'm going to join the circus I need to look the part. +---+ |Filename: blue-clown-wig-325.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14608| +---+ ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
ralphpnj wrote: You wouldn't happen to know where I get a large frilly collar, an orange afro wig and a big red stick-on nose? If I'm going to join the circus I need to look the part. ROFL! Something interesting. The second time i link to that side in a short time :) Seems this place has some very experienced and valuable listeners and members while they developed some mercy for the metaphysical arguying people. They just let them speak and give them a place. http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/513-jriver-mac-vs-jriver-windows-sound-quality-comparison/#comments It shows that Jriver does a 100% exactly job under Windows and Mac. To my understanding there is no place for audible differences. Even 2 comletely different USB cables are in this test and surprise, surprise... Now if someone claims that even a Kernal does change sound while complete different OS´s don´t the person claiming this should really think about giving up computing and buy some working stuff from the shelf. Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
Wombat wrote: ROFL! Something interesting. The second time i link to that side in a short time :) Seems this place has some very experienced and valuable listeners and members while they developed some mercy for the metaphysical arguying people. They just let them speak and give them a place. http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/513-jriver-mac-vs-jriver-windows-sound-quality-comparison/#comments It shows that Jriver does a 100% exactly job under Windows and Mac. To my understanding there is no place for audible differences. Even 2 comletely different USB cables are in this test and surprise, surprise... Now if someone claims that even a Kernal does change sound while complete different OS´s don´t the person claiming this should really think about giving up computing and buy some working stuff from the shelf. Nice link and well conducted tests. But any tests which do not validate the conclusions obtained by golden eared professional high end audio reviewers (aka clowns) are NOT VALID. So therefore JRiver used on a Mac with $500 USB cables always sounds better than JRiver used on a PC with $20 USB cables, otherwise who is going to buy advertising in their magazines. ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
ralphpnj wrote: So far we can safely conclude that white corn kernels cooked by conventional, i.e. not microwaved, methods appear to sound best. At the risk of further controversy, I firmly believe they also -taste- best. Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
Apesbrain wrote: At the risk of further controversy, I firmly believe they also -taste- best. Not so fast! Microwaved canned yellow corn kernels (#15 - worst sounding) served on fine Waterford china will always taste night and day better than grilled with husk still on white corn kernels (#1 - best sounding) served on thin paper plates. After all we are audiophiles and audiophiles understand that the more expensive is always better than less expensive. So think of the serving plates like USB cables - the more expensive the cable/plate the better the sound/taste. Anything less we are simply tone deaf Walmart shoppers listening to cheap plastic Chinese made iBoomboxes. +---+ |Filename: _0004_iP4GZC_HR2.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14609| +---+ ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
Where can I buy such an aged vortexbox? bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
agillis wrote: I like to age my kernel in a french oak cask for about 2 months. It not only sounds better but tastes better as well! You get those great earthy notes! bluegaspode wrote: Where can I buy such an aged vortexbox? I'm sure Agalis can pre age the ISO's for us at an aditional cost :) or maybe even cryo treat it at yet another aditional cost . I just learned from another tread that audiophile brands has a healty disrepspect for cost so go for it . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
Archimago wrote: Wow... If this dude is for real, he's either on serious drugs or in need of serious drugs. He is for real, but seems to have a pretty good sense for irony and humour.. :) Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
Julf wrote: He is for real, but seems to have a pretty good sense for irony and humour.. :) Whew... Good to know. Alas, Nurse Ratched will be disappointed. Archimago's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2207 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
Archimago wrote: Whew... Good to know. Alas, Nurse Ratched will be disappointed.Did you call off the guys with the big net? bonze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6150 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
bonze wrote: Did you call off the guys with the big net? Not yet... They're still hovering about. Gotta make sure it's not a false alarm. :-) The funny thing is that in reality, I have met folks who probably would write stuff like this and be dead serious... Furthermore, I would not be surprised at all to see a comment like the above as a letter to TAS and not be questioned or ridiculed. (Heck, that TAS series was just as nuts: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?93549-FUD-intellectual-honesty-digital-facts-and-the-TAS-articles) Archimago's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2207 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
First of April is a few weeks off yet :) Stratmangler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20387 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
Whichever boots fastest sounds better first. :) dyohn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5211 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
Hush ! We already have at least two insane treads going on in the audiophile forum already ;) There are one or two crackpots on this forum that believes different OS sounds different as -squeezeboxserver- . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
What!?! Not even a mention of cryogenicly treated kernels, for shame! ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
You must also hand type the source code into the compiler . All in the spirit of TAS revolutionary discovery that digtial information can not be copied without degrading , so by no mean use any copy of the source code ! Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
Julf wrote: 3) As if it needed saying, gcc4 is a disaster for sound quality. I mean, seriously if you want decent audio and you use gcc4 you may as well be recording with a tin can microphone. ... Ben Wow... If this dude is for real, he's either on serious drugs or in need of serious drugs. Curious, what's this strong disdain against gcc4? Archimago's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2207 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which one sounds better - Windows or Linux?
I like to age my kernel in a french oak cask for about 2 months. It not only sounds better but tastes better as well! You get those great earthy notes! agillis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21140 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98298 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
