[AZORES-Genealogy] 3X great grandfather's baptismo record - Antonio de Mello
The link below is for my GGG grandfather Antonio de Mello's baptismo record (lower right corner). I believe the year is somewhere between 1805 1810, probably closer to 1808 since that was the last year noted at the top of one page. Father - Manoel de Mello, mother - Maria da Silva. Since the record is at the bottom the writing gets scrunched and I was unable to figure out if his grandparents were listed. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1793-1818/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1793-1818_item1/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1793-1818_JPG/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1793-1818_0085.jpg Thanks for any help. Paul G. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Abbreviations
Hang on and let me get a hold of Al Ramos. No sense in reinventing the wheel, so-to-speak, if it's already done. I do appreciate the effort though!! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Abbreviations
Okay let me know. Yeah we had already started this prior to your post. Since I had such a hard time with abbreviations thought it would make it easier for the new people. On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Hang on and let me get a hold of Al Ramos. No sense in reinventing the wheel, so-to-speak, if it's already done. I do appreciate the effort though!! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 3X great grandfather's baptismo record - Antonio de Mello
Hello Paul, There is no grandparents listed, the birth date is April 21, 1805, and baptized on April 28th. But, the godparent is Tomas de Mello, son of Francisco de Mello JaPateiro (excuse me if I got the extra surname wrong, I'm sure you know the correct spelling) and Margarida da Silva. I can tell you the grandparents are not listed but maybe another lister can better translate the document for you. Because the related surnames of the parents of Antonio and the godparent and his family, I think it's safe to say they're related. Something to look into. here is the direct link to the baptism record http://goo.gl/oIAke6 On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 11:29:49 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote: The link below is for my GGG grandfather Antonio de Mello's baptismo record (lower right corner). I believe the year is somewhere between 1805 1810, probably closer to 1808 since that was the last year noted at the top of one page. Father - Manoel de Mello, mother - Maria da Silva. Since the record is at the bottom the writing gets scrunched and I was unable to figure out if his grandparents were listed. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1793-1818/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1793-1818_item1/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1793-1818_JPG/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1793-1818_0085.jpg Thanks for any help. Paul G. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Abbreviations
Al's on the east coast, so he's asleep. I had wy too much caffeine too late at lunch. I'm usually sound asleep by now. I use his list in my classes and it would be a great addition to the Azores GenWeb and for all us researchers! Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 3X great grandfather's baptismo record - Antonio de Mello
That guy really liked to make sure that he reached the top of the line with his tall letters! Godfather: Tomas de Mello, son of the family of Francisco de Mello, cobbler (shoemaker - sapateiro) - spelling - the place of Faial (they mean Faial da Terra; if it was Faial island, it would say ilha de Faial) and of Margarida da Silva. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Abbreviations
Yes it would!!! Hopefully he lets you share it. On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 12:49 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Al's on the east coast, so he's asleep. I had wy too much caffeine too late at lunch. I'm usually sound asleep by now. I use his list in my classes and it would be a great addition to the Azores GenWeb and for all us researchers! Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Abbreviations
I am up not sure why lol I am driving to California tomorrow afternoon to visit my oldest son. On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 1:00 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: Yes it would!!! Hopefully he lets you share it. On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 12:49 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Al's on the east coast, so he's asleep. I had wy too much caffeine too late at lunch. I'm usually sound asleep by now. I use his list in my classes and it would be a great addition to the Azores GenWeb and for all us researchers! Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Name of the mother of Joao
Hello Maria, Glad I could help. No, I do not have an index nor are they in my family tree. I do have Resendes in my family tree from Achada. It's not difficult to find related records (baptism) of children from the same parents. Once you find one, you can usually locate the others fairly quickly; provided the parents did not move to another parish. Were you able to locate Jose's marriage to Miguelina? On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 7:20:57 AM UTC-7, Maria wrote: Thank you so much for taking the time to write and sending this information. You have been so helpful in sending the links! I did a couple of happy dances this morning. Thank you so much. I noticed the priest didn't include Luis' parents but they are in the other records. How on earth did you find these so quickly. It takes me a long time going page by page. Was there an index or do u have these people in your tree? I noticed the Resende name is in your email. Maria Elena On Mar 18, 2014, at 6:59 AM, Aaron Pereira perei...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Hello, I've spent some time studying Achada and Nordestinho, Nordeste records and I've seen both male and female interchange surnames. example, Jose de Faria, I found his marriage record and first child born, using the name Jose Correa Pimentel. His grandma was a Pimentel and his great grandma was a Correa. I've also seen inter-change of names with Silva-Brandoa (Nordestinho), Simas-Resendes (Achada), and Pimentel-Resendes (Achada). In most of these cases, they were simply using either the father or mothers surname.In the case of Jose de Faria, it took a little extra work and going back in the family tree to figure it out. As for the pais incognito, a DNA test could help elucidate your husband's pedigree. As for the mother of Jose (the son), I can't make it out. I tried looking for Joze de Almeida and ? da Conceicao's marriage record but I couldn't find it. I looked in Sao Sebastiao and Agua Retorta Here is Jose's baptism (father), left hand side; take a look at his maternal grandparents surnames. I think it agrees with your original assumptions and findings regarding Jose and Luis de Almeida. Good work! http://goo.gl/NmK2X0 brother Francisco de Almeida's baptism http://goo.gl/tVR9n2 brother Luis's baptismhttp://goo.gl/hnn8jc On Monday, March 17, 2014 8:40:54 PM UTC-7, Maria wrote: Upper left hand page- for JOZE I'm was searching for children born to Luiz D'Almeida from the parish in Agua Retorta in Sao Miguel, (the same exact parish as is mentioned in this record) and his wife Luiza de Jesus. However, I came across this record where the names of the grandparents are so similar, that I wondered if Luiz D'Almeida is a brother to Jose D'Almeida. the name of the parents for both Luiz and Jose are both Jose D'Almeida and both men's mother is Miguelina. However, For Luiz the mother is Miguelina De Torres and for this Jose the mother is Miguelina de Resende (?) if I read it correctly.Miguelina is not a common name so I wonder if it IS the same person, it's,possible she used both names: De Torres and De Resende. Any thoughts? Can anyone help me out with the name of the mother of the baby in this record, please? The best I could make out was Jesnivea de Concinco(?). I know that doesn't make sense) There's several coincidences: both men came from the same parish; both men have a father with the same name and a mother with the same first name which is an uncommon name and both men had wives with Pais incognitos. Ugh!(So I came across my first encounter with Pais incognito and I don't know if that's going to mean I hit a dead end.). It's a shame because it's my husband's great grandmother Here's the record. I appreciate any help. Thank you http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1857-1860/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1857-1860_item1/P67.html Maria Elena -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for Jacinta Emilia Soares in Ribeira Cha, Sao Miguel, Azores
Hi Terry I think we have two different Jacinta's. My ancestor is Jacinta Emilia Soares married to Antonio Ambrosio de Araujo. They had 11 children born in Agua d'Alto. I have never seen the name Sentinella in any records but I will go back again and check through what I have (just in case) I don't have her death record because it wouldn't be available online (circa 1942) . Funny though how two people with almost the exact same name were born in the same place and died in the same place. Maybe there is a connection somewhere along the lines. Terri Santos researching Agua d'Alto, Agua de Pau, Ginetes, Vila Franca do Campo -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism
Sorry. I forgot to include the link on that http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-ROSAIS-B-1826-1839/SJR-VL-ROSAIS-B-1826-1839_item1/P126.html Thank you, Doug and Antonio. Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Fawn Silva 2sil...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm having trouble understanding a baptism on the CCA site. It is for Antonio, son of Joao Jacinto de Sigueira, native of Rosais Barbara Joaquina Rosa, native of Norte Grande, born on the 25th of May 1834 I think baptized on the 29th in the home. I don't know what the rest says google translate is absolutely no help on this one. I see witnesses but no padrinhos. Did this child die? I checked the obitos could not find him. Why was he baptized in the home? The baptism is on the top left of the pg. Help! Please. Thanks, Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching for D'Andrade in Sao Miguel
Hi Linda What is your relation to Roque Rodrigues and Rosa Jacintha? On Saturday, October 2, 2010 11:18:19 PM UTC-4, Linda Norton wrote: I'm glad Elizabeth you gave your info since I didn't have it and you know as we discussed that I have Manuel de Almeida de Andrade Rodrigues from Sao Roque as my ggrandfather b. abt. 1855. Also his daugther, my grandmother Maria do Espirito Santo de Andrade b. 1884 always carrying her name as de Andrade so my mother always said. I never heard my mother say de Almeida or even Rodrigues. She has listed on her marriage certificate she is from Ariffes. Manuel was married to Maria da Gloria from Faja de Baixo. They had four children: Odelia, Anton, my grandmother and Elise. Odelia married and went to Canada with two children, Anton never married (spent all the money given to him) and my grandmother and Elise had 17 children between the both of them, but 10 of them died. Supposedly my ggrandfather was very wealthy. I think it was a mill that he owned because some of what was left (equipment) went to my grandmother and probably the other sisters as a dowry. I just remember my mother telling me that her nephew who still lives in Ribeira Grande sold off the last of everything back in the 80's/90's and my mom told him to keep the money. She said it didn't add up to much supposedly. That's all I know about her maternal side. I will have to get certificates and see what I can find out. I know that Celeste helped me when she went there in 07 and found quite a few Manuel Rodrigues. The only one that was close was Manuel and Marie (twins) March 7, 1896. Manuel de Almeida and Maria Jacintha. Paternal Jose de Almeida and Maria Joaquina; Maternal Roque Rodrigues and Rosa Jacintha. Close because it's the only one I saw de Almeida and Rodrigues together. Again this was from Sao Roque. Maybe someone may pick up something from this info and help us out. Linda -- *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *emc *Sent:* Saturday, October 02, 2010 3:46 PM *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching for D'Andrade in Sao Miguel I am trying to find information on my D'ANDRADE ancestors... Here is what I have: Jacinto D'ANDRADE (my ggrandfather) m Margarida Candida LOPES in Ariffes, Sao Miguel 16 Sep 1872 s/o Antoinio D'Andrade de Silva m Dona-Anna-Clara in Fenais do Luz, Sao Miguel 26 Sep 1831 s/o Joao D'ANDRADE RAPOSO m Genoveva ROSA in Fenais do Luz, Sao Miguel, 14 Oct 1779 s/o Manuel D'ANDRADE-MACEDO m Mariana(?) I have no further information.could there possibly be someone else on the list looking for this family who could help me break through? TIA Elizabeth -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Vierra/Vieira Family
Carolina, I have a boatload of Flores families detailed in my databases, including a few Rodrigues Vieira lines from Lajes. Find everyone you're looking for? Eric Edgar On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 8:04 PM, dicarlo.dia...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Carolina, like Dave I am also a reader, my mom came across this site when looking for my paternal great grandparents who lived in Lajes das Flores. António Rodrigues Vieira and Maria da Trindade were my great grandparents (I have a photo of them) My grandfather Joao Rodrigues Vierra settled in Turlock and had a dairy ranch there. It sounds like your husband's great grandfather is the brother of my grandfather. I am going to visit Flores for the first time later this year. Dianne On Sunday, December 23, 2007 2:40:17 PM UTC-8, Carolina wrote: Thanks Helen and Cliff for the info! I just found this group a couple of weeks ago so I am still trying to get my bearings straightlol. All of this info is actually for my husband's side of the family - no one really has done research so I thought I'd give it a go. My side of the family is from Madeira - my parents were from Paul do Mar. We live in the Bay Area - in the city Pleasant Hill, near Walnut Creek and Concord. My husband's distant family lives in the Modesto/Turlock area. Thanks again! Caroline -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Name of the mother of Joao
Aaron; I have not searched for the marriage of Jose D'Almeida and Miguelina De Torres or De Resende YET. I've been looking for the marriage of their son Luis to Luiza de Jesus. In the process I found an. Index in the beginning of the book with names for more of their children so today I'll follow up on them and see when they started having children but I need to find my husband's great grandparents- the Luis and Luiza couple. I'm HOPING I can find Luiza's lineage. She used the name Luiza de Jesus CORREA. So I'm wondering where the CORREA came from but maybe the marriage record will give a clue. Aaron, do you use familysearch.org to enter your names? I'm thinking that I need to get a program in addition to the Family search Family Tree because I'm getting more and more names. I'm LDS and like using the family tree because (like I learned from Cheri Mello) that program is in the cloud so I can access it from anywhere. But for everyday going bk and forth in researching, copying records and verifying, I think I may need another program. Thank you so much for your willingness to help me. Maria Elena On Mar 20, 2014, at 3:22 AM, Aaron Pereira pereirah...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Maria, Glad I could help. No, I do not have an index nor are they in my family tree. I do have Resendes in my family tree from Achada. It's not difficult to find related records (baptism) of children from the same parents. Once you find one, you can usually locate the others fairly quickly; provided the parents did not move to another parish. Were you able to locate Jose's marriage to Miguelina? On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 7:20:57 AM UTC-7, Maria wrote: Thank you so much for taking the time to write and sending this information. You have been so helpful in sending the links! I did a couple of happy dances this morning. Thank you so much. I noticed the priest didn't include Luis' parents but they are in the other records. How on earth did you find these so quickly. It takes me a long time going page by page. Was there an index or do u have these people in your tree? I noticed the Resende name is in your email. Maria Elena On Mar 18, 2014, at 6:59 AM, Aaron Pereira perei...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I've spent some time studying Achada and Nordestinho, Nordeste records and I've seen both male and female interchange surnames. example, Jose de Faria, I found his marriage record and first child born, using the name Jose Correa Pimentel. His grandma was a Pimentel and his great grandma was a Correa. I've also seen inter-change of names with Silva-Brandoa (Nordestinho), Simas-Resendes (Achada), and Pimentel-Resendes (Achada). In most of these cases, they were simply using either the father or mothers surname.In the case of Jose de Faria, it took a little extra work and going back in the family tree to figure it out. As for the pais incognito, a DNA test could help elucidate your husband's pedigree. As for the mother of Jose (the son), I can't make it out. I tried looking for Joze de Almeida and ? da Conceicao's marriage record but I couldn't find it. I looked in Sao Sebastiao and Agua Retorta Here is Jose's baptism (father), left hand side; take a look at his maternal grandparents surnames. I think it agrees with your original assumptions and findings regarding Jose and Luis de Almeida. Good work! http://goo.gl/NmK2X0 brother Francisco de Almeida's baptism http://goo.gl/tVR9n2 brother Luis's baptismhttp://goo.gl/hnn8jc On Monday, March 17, 2014 8:40:54 PM UTC-7, Maria wrote: Upper left hand page- for JOZE I'm was searching for children born to Luiz D'Almeida from the parish in Agua Retorta in Sao Miguel, (the same exact parish as is mentioned in this record) and his wife Luiza de Jesus. However, I came across this record where the names of the grandparents are so similar, that I wondered if Luiz D'Almeida is a brother to Jose D'Almeida. the name of the parents for both Luiz and Jose are both Jose D'Almeida and both men's mother is Miguelina. However, For Luiz the mother is Miguelina De Torres and for this Jose the mother is Miguelina de Resende (?) if I read it correctly.Miguelina is not a common name so I wonder if it IS the same person, it's,possible she used both names: De Torres and De Resende. Any thoughts? Can anyone help me out with the name of the mother of the baby in this record, please? The best I could make out was Jesnivea de Concinco(?). I know that doesn't make sense) There's several coincidences: both men came from the same parish; both men have a father with the same name and a mother with the same first name which is an uncommon name and both men had
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Abbreviations
WOW! Pam- thank you for doing this. I've been running into these abbreviations more and more as I get back in time. I even noticed the priest abbreviating the word for filho (a). The first time I saw it, I got stuck on it for a time. This is great. Thank you. Maria Elena On Mar 20, 2014, at 12:28 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: I started a list of surname abbreviations with the help from Manuel Furtado. Manuel also added the first name abbreviations. So if anyone else has more to add please let me know. This will help the new people in their research. If any corrections need to be made please let me know so I can correct them All help is appreciated. Thanks -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. Surname Abbreviations update.docx -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Software Program
Maria Elena said: I'm thinking that I need to get a program in addition to the Family search Family Tree because I'm getting more and more names. I'm LDS and like using the family tree because (like I learned from Cheri Mello) that program is in the cloud so I can access it from anywhere. But for everyday going bk and forth in researching, copying records and verifying, I think I may need another program. Maria Elena, since you now have a criteria for your genealogy program (you like it in the cloud and being able to access it from anywhere), look into RootsMagic. http://www.rootsmagic.com/ The PAID version of RootsMagic (RM) has their RootsMagic To-Go feature. Their Web site says: Take RootsMagic with you wherever you go! RootsMagic To-Go allows you to copy the RootsMagic program and your data onto any simple USB flash drive or removable drive. Take the drive to a computer, plug it in, and run RootsMagic directly from it. It literally runs off your flash/USB/thumb/travel drive! So you can always have your genealogy with you. In addition, RootsMagic has a section on their site about PAF users switching over. They are one of the sponsors for the Azores Genealogy Conference, too. Bruce Buzbee, owner, donated a full, paid copy of RM as a door prize! -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Name of the mother of Joao
You may also want to look at Legacy at http://legacyfamilytree.com. It allows you to link to your FamilySearch Family Tree and download (or upload) information) from and to your Family Tree online. You choose what data you want to include (sort of like FamilyTreeMaker and Ancestry). You can download a free version (without the FS FamilyTree integration) to see if you like how it handles your data before purchasing the full program for about $29.95. There are several options available that include manuals and other products. You can decide if you want to synchronize your data between the two-I don’t because of other people making changes on the tree. Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maria Lima Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 6:16 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com; azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Name of the mother of Joao Aaron; I have not searched for the marriage of Jose D'Almeida and Miguelina De Torres or De Resende YET. I've been looking for the marriage of their son Luis to Luiza de Jesus. In the process I found an. Index in the beginning of the book with names for more of their children so today I'll follow up on them and see when they started having children but I need to find my husband's great grandparents- the Luis and Luiza couple. I'm HOPING I can find Luiza's lineage. She used the name Luiza de Jesus CORREA. So I'm wondering where the CORREA came from but maybe the marriage record will give a clue. Aaron, do you use familysearch.org http://familysearch.org to enter your names? I'm thinking that I need to get a program in addition to the Family search Family Tree because I'm getting more and more names. I'm LDS and like using the family tree because (like I learned from Cheri Mello) that program is in the cloud so I can access it from anywhere. But for everyday going bk and forth in researching, copying records and verifying, I think I may need another program. Thank you so much for your willingness to help me. Maria Elena On Mar 20, 2014, at 3:22 AM, Aaron Pereira pereirah...@gmail.com mailto:pereirah...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Maria, Glad I could help. No, I do not have an index nor are they in my family tree. I do have Resendes in my family tree from Achada. It's not difficult to find related records (baptism) of children from the same parents. Once you find one, you can usually locate the others fairly quickly; provided the parents did not move to another parish. Were you able to locate Jose's marriage to Miguelina? On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 7:20:57 AM UTC-7, Maria wrote: Thank you so much for taking the time to write and sending this information. You have been so helpful in sending the links! I did a couple of happy dances this morning. Thank you so much. I noticed the priest didn't include Luis' parents but they are in the other records. How on earth did you find these so quickly. It takes me a long time going page by page. Was there an index or do u have these people in your tree? I noticed the Resende name is in your email. Maria Elena On Mar 18, 2014, at 6:59 AM, Aaron Pereira perei...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Hello, I've spent some time studying Achada and Nordestinho, Nordeste records and I've seen both male and female interchange surnames. example, Jose de Faria, I found his marriage record and first child born, using the name Jose Correa Pimentel. His grandma was a Pimentel and his great grandma was a Correa. I've also seen inter-change of names with Silva-Brandoa (Nordestinho), Simas-Resendes (Achada), and Pimentel-Resendes (Achada). In most of these cases, they were simply using either the father or mothers surname.In the case of Jose de Faria, it took a little extra work and going back in the family tree to figure it out. As for the pais incognito, a DNA test could help elucidate your husband's pedigree. As for the mother of Jose (the son), I can't make it out. I tried looking for Joze de Almeida and ? da Conceicao's marriage record but I couldn't find it. I looked in Sao Sebastiao and Agua Retorta Here is Jose's baptism (father), left hand side; take a look at his maternal grandparents surnames. I think it agrees with your original assumptions and findings regarding Jose and Luis de Almeida. Good work! http://goo.gl/NmK2X0 brother Francisco de Almeida's baptism http://goo.gl/tVR9n2 brother Luis's baptismhttp://goo.gl/hnn8jc On Monday, March 17, 2014 8:40:54 PM UTC-7, Maria wrote: Upper left hand page- for JOZE I'm was searching for children born to Luiz D'Almeida from the parish in Agua Retorta in Sao Miguel, (the same exact parish as is mentioned in this record) and his wife Luiza de
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Vierra/Vieira Family
Hi Dianne, I've got a couple of Rodrigues Vieira in my personal family tree. They're a bit back in time though. Feel free to take a look: http://venturas.org/familytree/pedigree.php?rootid=I1748ged=venturas I'd recommend you buy the 'Casais das Flores e do Corvo' ebook. You'll be able to build your family tree a lot faster with that. You can find it easily in amazon.com. Happy researching, João Ventura http://tombo.pt/en On Thursday, 20 March 2014 04:04:27 UTC+1, dicarlo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Carolina, like Dave I am also a reader, my mom came across this site when looking for my paternal great grandparents who lived in Lajes das Flores. António Rodrigues Vieira and Maria da Trindade were my great grandparents (I have a photo of them) My grandfather Joao Rodrigues Vierra settled in Turlock and had a dairy ranch there. It sounds like your husband's great grandfather is the brother of my grandfather. I am going to visit Flores for the first time later this year. Dianne On Sunday, December 23, 2007 2:40:17 PM UTC-8, Carolina wrote: Thanks Helen and Cliff for the info! I just found this group a couple of weeks ago so I am still trying to get my bearings straightlol. All of this info is actually for my husband's side of the family - no one really has done research so I thought I'd give it a go. My side of the family is from Madeira - my parents were from Paul do Mar. We live in the Bay Area - in the city Pleasant Hill, near Walnut Creek and Concord. My husband's distant family lives in the Modesto/Turlock area. Thanks again! Caroline -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Vierra/Vieira Family
Dianne, When you are in Santa Cruz, Flores, be sure to stop in at the Flores Museum which is located in the old Convento da Boaventura. The former director Joao Antonio Gomes Vieira still spends a lot of time there (his son Luis is now the director) and may be related to you or at least probably can hook you up with relatives. Contact me directly if you like and I can probably give you some more leads but it will take me a little time. John Vasconcelos gfsjohnv at gmail dot com On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 8:04 PM, dicarlo.dia...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Carolina, like Dave I am also a reader, my mom came across this site when looking for my paternal great grandparents who lived in Lajes das Flores. António Rodrigues Vieira and Maria da Trindade were my great grandparents (I have a photo of them) My grandfather Joao Rodrigues Vierra settled in Turlock and had a dairy ranch there. It sounds like your husband's great grandfather is the brother of my grandfather. I am going to visit Flores for the first time later this year. Dianne On Sunday, December 23, 2007 2:40:17 PM UTC-8, Carolina wrote: Thanks Helen and Cliff for the info! I just found this group a couple of weeks ago so I am still trying to get my bearings straightlol. All of this info is actually for my husband's side of the family - no one really has done research so I thought I'd give it a go. My side of the family is from Madeira - my parents were from Paul do Mar. We live in the Bay Area - in the city Pleasant Hill, near Walnut Creek and Concord. My husband's distant family lives in the Modesto/Turlock area. Thanks again! Caroline -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Soares Sentinella Family Tree
Cheri, It looks like this discussion is about the newspaper A Sentinella published in the late 1800's. I don't believe it has anything to do with our family, just seems to be a coincidence. Thanks Though Terry On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 9:46:02 PM UTC-7, Terry Sentinella wrote: Does anyone have information on Joao (John Sr.), Jacintha Emilia, Maria, Fransisca, Jose (Joseph), or Joao (John jr) Soares Sentinella. They arrived on the SS Hansa in 1882 and resided on Maui. Thanks Terry Sentinella -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Names on Birth Record
Thanks Pam. I suppose it's possible that he is one of my great grandfathers, Matheus da Costa, which is how the name appears on the marriage record of his son Joam da Costa. Was it common for a boy to take a surname given by his mother? Matheus' wife was Josefa Pacheco (in some records it's Pachequa or Pacheca). She was born in 1714. I'm trying to find their marriage record so that I can verify the names of Matheus' parents. Matheus' death record is here: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780_item1/P152.html Josefa's birth record is here: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1710-1718/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1710-1718_item1/P70.html Josefa's death record is here: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806_item1/P84.html Their son, Joao's (Joam's) marriage record: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P185.html On Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:23:48 AM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote: Marcos Ferreira and Barbara da Costa On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Joseph Costa jwcos...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Hi all. I need some help deciphering the names on this birth record from 1705. It’s the “Mathias” in the middle of the left hand page. Can anyone make out the names of the parents? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1696-1710/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1696-1710_item1/P158.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
I think I may have found my 4th great grandfather's, Joam da Costa's, birth record, but I'm not sure. Per my previous post, he is the son of Matheus da Costa and Jozefa Pacheco (also appears as Pachequa or Pacheca). Can anyone read this. In the link below, it's on the right-hand page in the lower right corner. Looks like this is from Sept 1751? I need help verifying that these are in fact the names of the parents on this record. What about grandparents' names? Anyone see those? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_item1/P23.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone else matching to Basque from the population finder test from Ftdna
According to 23andMe my maternal haplogroup is H2a5. I have read that this haplogroup is found only in the Basque region of Spain. On Monday, March 10, 2014 5:34:31 PM UTC-7, Antonio Faria wrote: The European portion of my population finder results match equally to Basque/Spanish is anyone else matching to Basque. From what I have read the Basques are somewhat unique genetically, and I thought I would have a clear match to Spanish because it the population most similar genetically to Portuguese people. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Genealogy Software Program
Maria Elena, The Mac people will answer you, as I'm not a Mac user. You'll have to install a middle man type thing on your Mac to run Windows programs. Parallels, VM Fusion or others. There's a brief explanation of it here on the RootsMagic site: http://www.rootsmagic.com/mac/ Cheri On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Repost for Maria Elena, since this the post is about genealogy software and not the baptism of Joao: Thank you for your idea about Legacy. I feel pretty stupid for forgetting one important thing - I have a MAC BOOK PRO. I had Legacy on the old tower computer and loved it but computer died. :(. I think this is a new thread (?). Maria Elena On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Maria Elena said: I'm thinking that I need to get a program in addition to the Family search Family Tree because I'm getting more and more names. I'm LDS and like using the family tree because (like I learned from Cheri Mello) that program is in the cloud so I can access it from anywhere. But for everyday going bk and forth in researching, copying records and verifying, I think I may need another program. Maria Elena, since you now have a criteria for your genealogy program (you like it in the cloud and being able to access it from anywhere), look into RootsMagic. http://www.rootsmagic.com/ The PAID version of RootsMagic (RM) has their RootsMagic To-Go feature. Their Web site says: Take RootsMagic with you wherever you go! RootsMagic To-Go allows you to copy the RootsMagic program and your data onto any simple USB flash drive or removable drive. Take the drive to a computer, plug it in, and run RootsMagic directly from it. It literally runs off your flash/USB/thumb/travel drive! So you can always have your genealogy with you. In addition, RootsMagic has a section on their site about PAF users switching over. They are one of the sponsors for the Azores Genealogy Conference, too. Bruce Buzbee, owner, donated a full, paid copy of RM as a door prize! -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] US Attorney Mathias F. Correa
Repost for Bill Boze, boze44 at gmail.com He was my Great Uncle. His three children with my Great Aunt are atill alive though Louise passed away a few years ago. What is your connection and/or interest? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name Abbreviations
Your welcome On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 6:19 AM, Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com wrote: WOW! Pam- thank you for doing this. I've been running into these abbreviations more and more as I get back in time. I even noticed the priest abbreviating the word for filho (a). The first time I saw it, I got stuck on it for a time. This is great. Thank you. Maria Elena On Mar 20, 2014, at 12:28 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: I started a list of surname abbreviations with the help from Manuel Furtado. Manuel also added the first name abbreviations. So if anyone else has more to add please let me know. This will help the new people in their research. If any corrections need to be made please let me know so I can correct them All help is appreciated. Thanks -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. Surname Abbreviations update.docx -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Genealogy Software Program
Repost for Maria Elena, since this the post is about genealogy software and not the baptism of Joao: Thank you for your idea about Legacy. I feel pretty stupid for forgetting one important thing - I have a MAC BOOK PRO. I had Legacy on the old tower computer and loved it but computer died. :(. I think this is a new thread (?). Maria Elena On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Maria Elena said: I'm thinking that I need to get a program in addition to the Family search Family Tree because I'm getting more and more names. I'm LDS and like using the family tree because (like I learned from Cheri Mello) that program is in the cloud so I can access it from anywhere. But for everyday going bk and forth in researching, copying records and verifying, I think I may need another program. Maria Elena, since you now have a criteria for your genealogy program (you like it in the cloud and being able to access it from anywhere), look into RootsMagic. http://www.rootsmagic.com/ The PAID version of RootsMagic (RM) has their RootsMagic To-Go feature. Their Web site says: Take RootsMagic with you wherever you go! RootsMagic To-Go allows you to copy the RootsMagic program and your data onto any simple USB flash drive or removable drive. Take the drive to a computer, plug it in, and run RootsMagic directly from it. It literally runs off your flash/USB/thumb/travel drive! So you can always have your genealogy with you. In addition, RootsMagic has a section on their site about PAF users switching over. They are one of the sponsors for the Azores Genealogy Conference, too. Bruce Buzbee, owner, donated a full, paid copy of RM as a door prize! -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Soares Sentinella Family Tree
Nope, I clearly remember pulling out the HI books and looking stuff up for someone on the list and calling Shirley Allegre about it. It's probably in a thread titled Help Me or Newbie or Family or someone just hitting send to ANY thread and responding. If you keep searching and searching in the archive, you will find it. It's been awhile though. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Names on Birth Record
They basically could pick any name they choosed. Father, mothers grandparents or whichever. On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Joseph Costa jwcosta0...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks Pam. I suppose it's possible that he is one of my great grandfathers, Matheus da Costa, which is how the name appears on the marriage record of his son Joam da Costa. Was it common for a boy to take a surname given by his mother? Matheus' wife was Josefa Pacheco (in some records it's Pachequa or Pacheca). She was born in 1714. I'm trying to find their marriage record so that I can verify the names of Matheus' parents. Matheus' death record is here: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1749-1780_item1/P152.html Josefa's birth record is here: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1710-1718/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1710-1718_item1/P70.html Josefa's death record is here: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806_item1/P84.html Their son, Joao's (Joam's) marriage record: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P185.html On Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:23:48 AM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote: Marcos Ferreira and Barbara da Costa On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Joseph Costa jwcos...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. I need some help deciphering the names on this birth record from 1705. It's the Mathias in the middle of the left hand page. Can anyone make out the names of the parents? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1696-1710/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1696-1710_item1/P158.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of the mother of Joao
Hi Cheri, Sometime back JR, and I shared a circumstance where the Grandparents were incognito. Since the person was not someone critical to my research, I didn't think much about it - however, in this second instance, I thought it might be worthy of mention. You correctly pointed out that I wasn't drawing a conclusion on the reason for anonymity, but, merely making an observation. Living in these more liberal times, we sometimes forget how restrictive the rules were for many of our ancestors. On Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:16:25 AM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: Maria Elena, Dano didn't say that it was a class difference and that is why the grandparents weren't named. He said it was a possibility. I've never come across that in my research. The pais incognitos that I've run into were just that - unknown. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of the mother of Joao
Yes, and when doing research, it's best to keep all possibilities open. I don't want to mislead our members who are new to genealogy! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
Joseph, This is indeed difficult to read, but not impossible. Joam's name is mentioned at the beginning legitimate (abbrv) son of Mathias da Costa native of this freguesia of Sam Miguel of Villa Franca do Campo nasceo (was born) on the 4th day of the month of September 1751, and, was baptized in this same church of Sam Miguel, matriz of the aforementioned Villa, parish of his parents on the sixth day of the current month and year by me, Maoel de Medeiros , Curate of this matriz. Godfather was Mathias de Andrade, single, parishioner of this Matriz, and witnesses Pedro Corea, and Miguel Pereyra, and for the record I dated this day, month and as above. On Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:45:13 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: I think I may have found my 4th great grandfather's, Joam da Costa's, birth record, but I'm not sure. Per my previous post, he is the son of Matheus da Costa and Jozefa Pacheco (also appears as Pachequa or Pacheca). Can anyone read this. In the link below, it's on the right-hand page in the lower right corner. Looks like this is from Sept 1751? I need help verifying that these are in fact the names of the parents on this record. What about grandparents' names? Anyone see those? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_item1/P23.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism
It looks to me like the priest (Paulo Silveira Bettencourt) baptized the child because they thought he might die. Witnesses were (my guess) Jose de Souza Silveira Bettencourt and Joao Jose de Bettencourt. I am interested since I have connections to Rosais and Norte Grande, plus a DNA match (5th to remote cousin) between myself and your husband. But I don't see an immediate connection to these people. :) Mary On Thursday, March 20, 2014, Fawn Silva 2sil...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry. I forgot to include the link on that http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-ROSAIS-B-1826-1839/SJR-VL-ROSAIS-B-1826-1839_item1/P126.html Thank you, Doug and Antonio. Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Fawn Silva 2sil...@gmail.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','2sil...@gmail.com'); wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm having trouble understanding a baptism on the CCA site. It is for Antonio, son of Joao Jacinto de Sigueira, native of Rosais Barbara Joaquina Rosa, native of Norte Grande, born on the 25th of May 1834 I think baptized on the 29th in the home. I don't know what the rest says google translate is absolutely no help on this one. I see witnesses but no padrinhos. Did this child die? I checked the obitos could not find him. Why was he baptized in the home? The baptism is on the top left of the pg. Help! Please. Thanks, Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com'); . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
Joseph, I neglected to mention that I didn't see Joam's mother listed in the record (which is somewhat odd). As for the Grandparents, they weren't listed in the early records. I'm not sure, but, I believe they weren't added until the early, or, mid 1800's'. Possibly Cheri, Doug, or JR can chime in. On Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:45:13 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote: I think I may have found my 4th great grandfather's, Joam da Costa's, birth record, but I'm not sure. Per my previous post, he is the son of Matheus da Costa and Jozefa Pacheco (also appears as Pachequa or Pacheca). Can anyone read this. In the link below, it's on the right-hand page in the lower right corner. Looks like this is from Sept 1751? I need help verifying that these are in fact the names of the parents on this record. What about grandparents' names? Anyone see those? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_item1/P23.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism
I'm also watching this thread with interest since I have connections to Rosais and Norte Grande. These witness names are similar to my names. I haven't noticed a FF match though to others from here for me or my uncle, John Baptiste.except to Rosemarie as a 5th to remote. Nancy Jean Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 14:45:17 -0700 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism From: busybo...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com It looks to me like the priest (Paulo Silveira Bettencourt) baptized the child because they thought he might die. Witnesses were (my guess) Jose de Souza Silveira Bettencourt and Joao Jose de Bettencourt. I am interested since I have connections to Rosais and Norte Grande, plus a DNA match (5th to remote cousin) between myself and your husband. But I don't see an immediate connection to these people. :) Mary On Thursday, March 20, 2014, Fawn Silva 2sil...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry. I forgot to include the link on that http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-ROSAIS-B-1826-1839/SJR-VL-ROSAIS-B-1826-1839_item1/P126.html Thank you, Doug and Antonio. Fawn SilvaSt. Louis, MO On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Fawn Silva 2sil...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm having trouble understanding a baptism on the CCA site. It is for Antonio, son of Joao Jacinto de Sigueira, native of Rosais Barbara Joaquina Rosa, native of Norte Grande, born on the 25th of May 1834 I think baptized on the 29th in the home. I don't know what the rest says google translate is absolutely no help on this one. I see witnesses but no padrinhos. Did this child die? I checked the obitos could not find him. Why was he baptized in the home? The baptism is on the top left of the pg. Help! Please. Thanks,Fawn SilvaSt. Louis, MO -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
Joseph and Dano. My two cents worth: Joao son of Mathias da Costa and Josefa (can't make out with certainty the first word on the second line), looks like do Paroto (which doesn't make sense to me). Hermano Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 15:14:56 -0700 From: dpai...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help! Joseph, This is indeed difficult to read, but not impossible. Joam's name is mentioned at the beginning legitimate (abbrv) son of Mathias da Costa native of this freguesia of Sam Miguel of Villa Franca do Campo nasceo (was born) on the 4th day of the month of September 1751, and, was baptized in this same church of Sam Miguel, matriz of the aforementioned Villa, parish of his parents on the sixth day of the current month and year by me, Maoel de Medeiros , Curate of this matriz. Godfather was Mathias de Andrade, single, parishioner of this Matriz, and witnesses Pedro Corea, and Miguel Pereyra, and for the record I dated this day, month and as above. On Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:45:13 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote:I think I may have found my 4th great grandfather's, Joam da Costa's, birth record, but I'm not sure. Per my previous post, he is the son of Matheus da Costa and Jozefa Pacheco (also appears as Pachequa or Pacheca). Can anyone read this. In the link below, it's on the right-hand page in the lower right corner. Looks like this is from Sept 1751? I need help verifying that these are in fact the names of the parents on this record. What about grandparents' names? Anyone see those? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_item1/P23.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Software Program
I just got back to doing some genealogy and recently discovered that PAF is no longer used. When open my PAF files it freezes up in the middle of navigating. Can Rootsmagic help to convert my PAF files? Any other ideas or recommendations? Thanks, Tanya Smith On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 6:06 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Maria Elena said: I'm thinking that I need to get a program in addition to the Family search Family Tree because I'm getting more and more names. I'm LDS and like using the family tree because (like I learned from Cheri Mello) that program is in the cloud so I can access it from anywhere. But for everyday going bk and forth in researching, copying records and verifying, I think I may need another program. Maria Elena, since you now have a criteria for your genealogy program (you like it in the cloud and being able to access it from anywhere), look into RootsMagic. http://www.rootsmagic.com/ The PAID version of RootsMagic (RM) has their RootsMagic To-Go feature. Their Web site says: Take RootsMagic with you wherever you go! RootsMagic To-Go allows you to copy the RootsMagic program and your data onto any simple USB flash drive or removable drive. Take the drive to a computer, plug it in, and run RootsMagic directly from it. It literally runs off your flash/USB/thumb/travel drive! So you can always have your genealogy with you. In addition, RootsMagic has a section on their site about PAF users switching over. They are one of the sponsors for the Azores Genealogy Conference, too. Bruce Buzbee, owner, donated a full, paid copy of RM as a door prize! -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Tanya K. Smith tanya808sm...@gmail.com 808.232.1366 P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Software Program
Tanya, Yes, most of the major genealogy software programs jumped on the help the PAF users train. The link for RootsMagic's help for PAF users is here: http://www.rootsmagic.com/PAF/default.aspx Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
Yes, generally the grandparents appear in the baptisms from the mid-1800s onwards. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Texeira from Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel island to Hawaii
Repost for Syndi Texeira, syndih at gmail.com Hi, I'm new to this group as well as genealogy. I'm trying to research my family that came from the Azores to Hawaii Island. I did find my great great grandparents on the Bell Rock ships manifest. Their names were Manoel Teixeira and Maria Da Estrella. They traveled with three children (Jose would be my great grandfather). I have been looking on the CCA but in my grand uncle's notes, it says they were from Ribeira Grande. I'm not sure if that's correct since I don't have any proof. My grand uncle started this endeavor and I hope I can finish what he started. Any help would be appreciated. Mahalo Syndi Texeira -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Texeira from Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel island to Hawaii
Syndi, The 3 pieces for genealogy are a name, a date, a place. The place is usually the hardest, but you have that. What's the date on the Bell Rock manifest? Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Texeira from Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel island to Hawaii
Hi Cheri, Thank you for responding. The date was, 1 November 1883. Manoel was 40 yrs, his wife Maria was 37. The children was Jacintha, Jose and Maria; 11, 5, and 2 respectively. Syndi -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Texeira from Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel island to Hawaii
One other detail was the spelling of our family's surname. It was TEIXEIRA but along the way it changed to Texeira. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Texeira from Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel island to Hawaii
Syndi, I have some Teixeira's from Ribeira Grande but I do not have a Manoel Teixeira married to a Maria da Estrella. Can you give me some dates. Are there any other relatives you could name. What was the name of your grand uncle and when was he born? Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 9:52 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Texeira from Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel island to Hawaii Repost for Syndi Texeira, syndih at gmail.com Hi, I'm new to this group as well as genealogy. I'm trying to research my family that came from the Azores to Hawaii Island. I did find my great great grandparents on the Bell Rock ships manifest. Their names were Manoel Teixeira and Maria Da Estrella. They traveled with three children (Jose would be my great grandfather). I have been looking on the CCA but in my grand uncle's notes, it says they were from Ribeira Grande. I'm not sure if that's correct since I don't have any proof. My grand uncle started this endeavor and I hope I can finish what he started. Any help would be appreciated. Mahalo Syndi Texeira -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
Hi, The mother is Josefa do Canto. On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, generally the grandparents appear in the baptisms from the mid-1800s onwards. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Texeira from Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel island to Hawaii
That would mean he was born about 1843 and married around 1872. Those dates fall in the dead zone for the records I have. I would start looking at the marriage records of NS Estrela in Ribeira Grande for the marriage of Manoel and Maria. The records for Ribeira Grand are not on line yet. In the mean time you could order the film at the FHC near you but the records when they are put on line are easier to use than the micro films. I can definitely say that the marriage is not in Ribeirinha as I have all the marriages from there. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Syndi T Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 10:09 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Texeira from Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel island to Hawaii Hi Cheri, Thank you for responding. The date was, 1 November 1883. Manoel was 40 yrs, his wife Maria was 37. The children was Jacintha, Jose and Maria; 11, 5, and 2 respectively. Syndi -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Texeira from Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel island to Hawaii
Hi Richard, The only information I have is what my grand uncle had found on his own and the other information I located from my great grandfather: his name was Jose but then it changed to Joseph Texeira. His birth date was September 23, 1877 or at least that's what is own his grave. The only other information about Maria da Estrella is that she died in April 1927 and was buried at the Kurtistown Catholic Cemetery but there are no markers. The cemetery has fallen apart. Thank you for your help. Syndi -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Texeira from Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel island to Hawaii
Hi Richard, Sorry for my ignorance but what is FHC? I'm very new at this. Syn -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Texeira from Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel island to Hawaii
FHC = Family History Center. They are located at many of the Churches of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (LDS) or Mormons. They are open to the public. You do not need to be LDS to use them. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!
The only guarantee the grandparents were listed was on 1 July 1860 forward.But many started before that. Sometimes even the latter 1700s.On Madeira, it is normal to list them in the 1700s, even for marriages. And I have seen that on the mainland, too.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help! From: Dano dpai...@gmail.com Date: Thu, March 20, 2014 3:39 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Joseph, I neglected to mention that I didn't see Joam's mother listed in the record (which is somewhat odd). As for the Grandparents, they weren't listed in the early records. I'm not sure, but, Ibelieve they weren't added until the early, or, mid 1800's'.Possibly Cheri, Doug, or JR can chime in. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Texeira from Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel island to Hawaii
Thank you Cheri. I will definitely look into it tomorrow. I know I visited our local LDS many years ago but all of their records were destroyed in a fire. I will see if they can direct me to another center. On Friday, March 21, 2014 1:21:10 AM UTC-3, Cheri Mello wrote: FHC = Family History Center. They are located at many of the Churches of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (LDS) or Mormons. They are open to the public. You do not need to be LDS to use them. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Brazil, Civil Registration, 1870-2012
Ancestry now has these records listed. If you need a lookup, let me know. One at a time please. E -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 3X great grandfather's baptismo record - Antonio de Mello
Thank you Aaron and Cheri. @Cheri, I agree he wanted people to notice his handwriting. Paul G. On Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:57:00 AM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: That guy really liked to make sure that he reached the top of the line with his tall letters! Godfather: Tomas de Mello, son of the family of Francisco de Mello, cobbler (shoemaker - sapateiro) - spelling - the place of Faial (they mean Faial da Terra; if it was Faial island, it would say ilha de Faial) and of Margarida da Silva. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Software Program
I went from using PAF5 to RootsMagic without a problem. There are some minor quirks to get used to. I had no problem uploading my GEDCOM (or whatever it's called) to RootMagic. After uploading, RootsMagic checks for duplicate records (at least it did for me) just be carefull and doulbe check what it is showing you. The only thing I would like to see them change is when you go to print a family group report that you can print a descendant family group report like PAF, not one family at a time. Paul G. On Thursday, March 20, 2014 9:22:33 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: Tanya, Yes, most of the major genealogy software programs jumped on the help the PAF users train. The link for RootsMagic's help for PAF users is here: http://www.rootsmagic.com/PAF/default.aspx Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Obito records
I have been looking at some obito records trying to find some family. The one question I have is the person listed in the left column are they the deceased or the person reporting the death? Paul G. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
