RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism Record for Maria, daughter of Thomaz Ignacio ? and Rita Marianna, Feteira, Faial
Thanks to you and Pam! Here’s a follow-up. I was able to find the parents, grandparents, etc., back 4 generations in the NEPS database by searching for the names of the parents of the godmother, Luisa. I searched the NEPS databases for several places for the names of the parents of Maria and could not find them, but when I looked for the godmother Luisa and her parents, Jose Furtado Pereira and Catarina Tomasia Felicia (listed after Luisa). I found that Maria’s father and the godmother were cousins and found them as they are listed in NEPS. Catarina was the sister of http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=FETEIRA;lang=en;p=ana+tomasia+de+sao;n=jose Ana Tomásia de São José, mother of Tomas Inacio Pereira. Sorry if this isn’t clear, but it’s late. Anyway, now I will go to the CCA site and find the records to support what’s in NEPS. (Not tonight, though.) Diane George From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 10:59 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism Record for Maria, daughter of Thomaz Ignacio ? and Rita Marianna, Feteira, Faial Diane G, Pam Santos got the names for you. Parents are natives of this parish church, Divino Espirito Santo in the place of Feteira. It does not say where the grandparents were from. On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com mailto:pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: Father Thomar or Homar? Ignacio Pereira and Rita Mariano Paternal Ignacio Furtado Godfather Jose Furtado Pereira On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Diane George digeorg...@hotmail.com mailto:digeorg...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, I am having a lot of trouble with this baptism record: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1812-1829/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1812-1829_item1/P189.html The item is Maria, first entry on the left page. The names I can’t quite get are the father and the paternal grandfather. I also can’t quite make out the godfather and any of the place names. There also appears to be a name or names after the name of the godfather and godmother (Luiza Marianna). I think they are all natives of Feteira, and the church is Divino Espírito Santo, but want to be sure. I believe Maria is my second great grandmother, wife of Francisco Gonçalves da Silva, on my maternal grandfather’s side of the family. They are the parents of Luis Gonçalves da Silva, who is my maternal great grandfather. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! Diane George -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism
Hello Nancy Jean, Thank you for thinking of my father. He is doing some better I will be going home to St Louis on Friday. Dennis Silva is my husband Buzzie Mendonca is his mother's brother. Dennis' mother passed away so we asked Uncle Buzzie to do a DNA test for us and he kindly accepted. Just wondering if you are Portuguese thru your mother your father. If you are Azorean on both sides of your family, like my husband is, the DNA matches you mention might be closer for you because you are related closer on the family side that your uncle is not related to. Am I making sense?? You might be related to my husband on both sides of his family, his mother's side (Buzzie) and his father's side (Dennis' DNA) but the DNA match will give you the closest one, in this case 4th remote. I think that could explain this. Cheri, is that right??? Rosemarie, how fun to be connected to you! You worked with my cousin, Noreene, and you are a cousin to my husband!! Our Silva's were also Silveira are from Calheta then Ribeira Seca then it goes to Topo. Have no Lemos in the family tree but have Silveira, Soares Sigueira, Bettencourt Avila, Alveres Silveira others from Rosais. Also family from Pico Faial Terceira but the majority are from Sao Jorge Pico. Would love to find out how we all connect!! Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 9:58 AM, nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Fawn, I hope your father is improving. Both myself and my Uncle John Cardoza Baptiste match Buzzie Mendonca.he shows as 4th -remote match to me and 5th-remote to my uncle.I would have thought it would be just the opposite since Uncle John's a generation earlier. I noticed you are the contact for Dennis Wilbert Silva who is a 4th-remote match to me but not to my uncle. Best regards, Nancy Jean -- Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 23:52:39 -0500 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism From: 2sil...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com A belated thank you to those who helped me with this. My father had a stroke I am in CA caring for him my mother I failed to thank you for your help and ideas. Mary Nancy, my husband's uncle also had his DNA done for us is on the site as Buzzie Mendonca. My husband has a number of family lines that link to Rosais and then the one to Norte Grande. Thanks again, Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:11 PM, nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm also watching this thread with interest since I have connections to Rosais and Norte Grande. These witness names are similar to my names. I haven't noticed a FF match though to others from here for me or my uncle, John Baptiste.except to Rosemarie as a 5th to remote. Nancy Jean -- Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 14:45:17 -0700 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism From: busybo...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com It looks to me like the priest (Paulo Silveira Bettencourt) baptized the child because they thought he might die. Witnesses were (my guess) Jose de Souza Silveira Bettencourt and Joao Jose de Bettencourt. I am interested since I have connections to Rosais and Norte Grande, plus a DNA match (5th to remote cousin) between myself and your husband. But I don't see an immediate connection to these people. :) Mary On Thursday, March 20, 2014, Fawn Silva 2sil...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry. I forgot to include the link on that http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-ROSAIS-B-1826-1839/SJR-VL-ROSAIS-B-1826-1839_item1/P126.html Thank you, Doug and Antonio. Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Fawn Silva 2sil...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm having trouble understanding a baptism on the CCA site. It is for Antonio, son of Joao Jacinto de Sigueira, native of Rosais Barbara Joaquina Rosa, native of Norte Grande, born on the 25th of May 1834 I think baptized on the 29th in the home. I don't know what the rest says google translate is absolutely no help on this one. I see witnesses but no padrinhos. Did this child die? I checked the obitos could not find him. Why was he baptized in the home? The baptism is on the top left of the pg. Help! Please. Thanks, Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list
Sam, My husband is Dennis Silva on your list his maternal uncle is Buzzie Mendonca, also on your list. I have a gedcom for Dennis on the site but not for Buzzie yet. I will try to get that done in this next wk. Hope it will help! Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 2:36 AM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: I just noticed I am also showing a relation to Buzzie Mendonca. Anyone know his ancestry? There is no gedcom. We have 23 common matches between us. We're not showing a relation, but if Bill Antoine is related to Wally, then we should show it. But maybe too remote. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message On Apr 26, 2014, at 14:02, aportugee via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Hello list; I just ran a comparison on FTDNA Family Finder Matrix. The 13 people below are shown as matches. I know William Coelho and Alfred Rose are 2nd cousins. The line goes from Fraga back to Silveira back to Machado on the island of Sao Jorge. My thought is, if the 13 of s compared notes and gedcoms, wouldn’t you think we could find the link? My gedcom is up on FTDNA and I know some of the others are as well. Perhaps if the rest of the 13 who do not have there gedcoms posted on FTDNA would post them, we might find the link? Does anyone else have an idea how to figure this out? Thanks, Sam (wandering around the U.S. in search of a home) William Coelho Alfred Rose William (Bill) Antoine Dennis Silva (Contact: Fawn) Manuel Soares Cunha (c/o Helen) Adeline Marie Amaral (Contact: Veronica) Shirley Adene Cooley David Maria Do Carmo Geraldine Martin Buzzie Mendonca Sharon Pereira-Driscoll Danae Andrea Sharp Emil Henry Silveira -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism
Hi Fawn,Since we also match Buzzie, are you planning to post a gedcom for him so we can figure out our connection?Thanks,Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism From: Fawn Silva 2sil...@gmail.com Date: Wed, April 30, 2014 11:30 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Hello Nancy Jean,Thank you for thinking of my father. He is doing some better I will be going home to St Louis on Friday.Dennis Silva is my husband Buzzie Mendonca is his mother's brother. Dennis' mother passed away so we asked Uncle Buzzie to do a DNA test for us and he kindly accepted. Just wondering if you are Portuguese thru your mother your father.If you are Azorean on both sides of your family, like my husband is, theDNA matches you mention might be closer for you because you are related closer on the family side that your uncle is not related to. Am I making sense?? You might be related to my husband on both sides ofhisfamily, his mother's side (Buzzie) and his father's side (Dennis' DNA)but the DNA match will give you the closest one, in this case 4th remote. I think that could explain this. Cheri, is that right???Rosemarie, how fun to be connected to you! You worked with my cousin, Noreene, and you are a cousin to my husband!!Our Silva's were also Silveira are from Calheta then Ribeira Seca then it goesto Topo. Have no Lemos in the family tree but have Silveira, Soares Sigueira, Bettencourt Avila, Alveres Silveira others from Rosais. Also family from Pico Faial Terceira but the majority are from Sao Jorge Pico. Would love to find out how we all connect!!Fawn SilvaSt. Louis, MO On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 9:58 AM, nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Fawn,I hope your father is improving.Both myself and my Uncle John Cardoza Baptiste match Buzzie Mendonca.he shows as 4th-remote match to me and 5th-remote to my uncle.I would have thought it would be just the opposite sinceUncle John's a generation earlier. I noticed you are the contact for Dennis Wilbert Silva who is a 4th-remote match to me but not to my uncle. Best regards,Nancy JeanDate: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 23:52:39 -0500Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge BaptismFrom: 2sil...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.comA belated thank you to thosewho helped me with this. My father had a stroke Iam inCA caring for him my mother Ifailed to thank you for your help and ideas. Mary Nancy, my husband's uncle also had his DNA done for us is on the site as Buzzie Mendonca. My husband has a number of family lines that link to Rosais and then the one to Norte Grande. Thanks again,Fawn SilvaSt. Louis, MOOn Thursday, March 20, 2014, Fawn Silva 2sil...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry. I forgot to include the link on thathttp://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-ROSAIS-B-1826-1839/SJR-VL-ROSAIS-B-1826-1839_item1/P126.html Thank you, Doug and Antonio.Fawn SilvaSt. Louis, MOOn Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Fawn Silva 2sil...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone,I'm having trouble understanding a baptism on the CCA site. It is for Antonio, son of Joao Jacinto de Sigueira, native of Rosais Barbara Joaquina Rosa, native of Norte Grande, born on the 25th of May 1834 I think baptized on the 29th in the home. I don't know what the rest says google translate is absolutely no help on this one. I see witnesses but no padrinhos. Did this child die? I checked the obitos could not find him.Why was he baptized in the home? The baptism is on the top left of the pg. Help! Please.Thanks,Fawn SilvaSt. Louis, MO -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list
I spoke too soon. Just saw that you answered it in the next message.Great!Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list From: Fawn Silva 2sil...@gmail.com Date: Wed, April 30, 2014 11:59 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Sam,My husband is Dennis Silva on your list his maternal uncle is Buzzie Mendonca, also on your list. I have a gedcom for Dennis on the site but not for Buzzie yet. I will try to get that done in this next wk. Hope it will help! Fawn SilvaSt. Louis, MOOn Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 2:36 AM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: I just noticed I am also showing a relation to Buzzie Mendonca. Anyone know his ancestry? There is no gedcom. We have 23 common matches between us.We're not showing a relation, but if Bill Antoine is related to Wally, then we should show it. But maybe too remote. Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dias/ Silviera/ Henriques/ Fraga 1800 - present
Hi Eric,None of those named Manuel born in 1849 in Cedros are screaming to me they must have used the full name of Manuel Jacinto Vieira Rodrigues. I couldn't find his baptism. I was just wondering if any came from Pico.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dias/ Silviera/ Henriques/ Fraga 1800 - present From: "luiznoia ." noblankt...@gmail.com Date: Wed, April 30, 2014 1:24 pm To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com My great great grandfather, Manuel Jacinto Vieira Rodrigues was born in Cedros in 1849. I have an extensive database of Cedros families. My Vieira line goes back to Corvo within two generations from there. Surnames- Vieira, Rodrigues, Silveira, Mendonca, Vasconcelos Fraga, Valdao, Furtado, AvilaEric Edgar On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:46 AM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Hi John,I have noticed that many/most of the Cedros families have links back to Pico a little further back in time.Has this happened to your tree, too? I am also writing you directly because my emails now have to go through the list owner who filters them.You can answer me directly here:p...@dholmes.com Thanks,Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dias/ Silviera/ Henriques/ Fraga 1800 - present From: john kracha jkk...@gmail.com Date: Wed, April 30, 2014 9:35 am To: azores@googlegroups.com It appears that ancestors originated in area of Cedres, Flores, Azores and settled in Central Valley of California. Mostly near Modesto. Since Cedros is relatively small, there is some historical connection still remaining. Can you help fill in? The google sites that I have researched do not identify paternal/ maternal lines. -- -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Santa Maria marriage: Name of groom, Bride and her parents
Maria, Here´s what I have from RR. See below. And we share a common ancestor, I also descend from João Vaz, o das Virtudes. Manoel *CAPÍTULO 30.º* *DA DESCENDÊNCIA DE MESTRE ANTÓNIO, CATALÃO* 1 - António (talvez do apelido Curvelo), Mestre Catalão. Veio para a Ilha de Santa Maria no princípio da sua colonização, mandado pelo Infante D. Henrique para tratar da plantação de cana de açúcar e do seu fabrico. Era da Catalunha e veio já casado para Santa Maria, tendo aí recebido dadas de terras. Morreu com mais de 110 anos (Vide Frutuoso, Livro III, Cap.º II e III). Ignora-se com quem casou, mas sabe-se que foi seu filho: 2 - Francisco Curvelo (Vide Frutuoso, Livro III, Cap.º II), casou na Ilha de Santa Maria com Guiomar Guardeza, mulher nobre. 3 - Francisco Curvelo (Vide Frutuoso Livro IV, Cap.º XXXII), jaz na Matriz Vila do Porto, entre as duas naves da porta travessa da banda do sul para cima (como diz o testamento do filho António). Casou em S. Miguel com *Filipa Faleiro de Resendes (Cap.º 31.º § 1.º N.º 3)* 4 - Filipe Jácome de Resendes, natural da Ilha de Santa Maria e aí morador. Seus irmãos, Manuel e António, instituidores e 1.º e 2.º padroeiros do Recolhimento da Madalena mandam que sejam depois padroeiros os filhos e descendentes deste seu irmão Filipe (Vide Arquivo dos Açores, Vol.º XIII, pág. 552 e Vol.º XIV pág. 110 e 113). Casou com Maria de Sousa que a 3.2.1594, já viúva, em Vila do Porto, figurou na escritura de instituição e doação do dito Recolhimento. 5 - Sebastião Jácome de Resendes, que fez testamento a 5.4.1633, aprovado a 20.2.1634.(Nota N.º 5). Casou a 2.ª vez com Maria dos Santos. 6 - Manuel de Sousa de Resendes, que viveu com sua mulher no lugar de Santa Bárbara, em Santa Maria, onde baptizou filhos em 1644. Casou na Matriz de Vila do Porto a 3.l.1639, com Isabel Velha, de 16 anos, filha de Belchior Romeiro e Simoa Travassos. 7 - Sebastião Jácome de Resendes, casou com Maria da Costa de Almada, de Santo Espírito? 8 - João Jácome de Resendes ou de Sousa de Resendes, casou em Santo Espírito a 7.5.1725 com Maria da Paixão filha de António de Almada e Catarina... *CAPÍTULO 31.º* *DA DESCENDÊNCIA DE JOÃO VAZ FEIO OU FALEIRO OU MELÃO;* *OU SIMPLESMENTE JOÃO VAZ, O DAS VIRTUDES.* 1 - João Vaz Feio ou Faleiro ou Melão, ou mais propriamente, João Vaz o das Virtudes, natural da Covilhã, donde foi para a Ilha da Madeira e daqui para a Ilha de Santa Maria, onde el-rei D. Manuel lhe deu terras por ele o curar de uma doença. Em 18.10.1554, foi testemunha do testamento de Duarte Nunes Velho. Frutuoso refere-se-lhe no Livro III das Saudades da Terra, Capítulo II e III; IX e XI, e no Livro IV, Cap.º XXXII e XXXIII (Nota N.º 1). Casou na Ilha da Madeira com Estevazinha Vicente da geração dos Cogumbreiros. 2 - Fernão Vaz Faleiro, citado por Frutuoso no Livro III das Saudades da Terra, Cap.º XIV e no Livro IV, Cap.º XXXII. Casou com Filipa de Resendes, parente de Domingos Afonso de Resendes, de S. Roque (S. Miguel), segundo Frutuoso. 3 - *Filipa Faleiro de Resendes*, (Vide Frutuoso, Livro IV, Cap.º 3º) que casou na Ilha de Santa Maria com Francisco Curvelo (Cap.º 30.º § primeiro, N.º 3). -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism
Dear Fawn, I am STILL trying to make that connection. Cheri has been working with me some on how to figure it all out but I’m not the brightest bulb in the chandelier when it comes to this stuff! LOL Rosemarie From: Fawn Silva Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 11:30 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism Hello Nancy Jean, Thank you for thinking of my father. He is doing some better I will be going home to St Louis on Friday. Dennis Silva is my husband Buzzie Mendonca is his mother's brother. Dennis' mother passed away so we asked Uncle Buzzie to do a DNA test for us and he kindly accepted. Just wondering if you are Portuguese thru your mother your father. If you are Azorean on both sides of your family, like my husband is, the DNA matches you mention might be closer for you because you are related closer on the family side that your uncle is not related to. Am I making sense?? You might be related to my husband on both sides of his family, his mother's side (Buzzie) and his father's side (Dennis' DNA) but the DNA match will give you the closest one, in this case 4th remote. I think that could explain this. Cheri, is that right??? Rosemarie, how fun to be connected to you! You worked with my cousin, Noreene, and you are a cousin to my husband!! Our Silva's were also Silveira are from Calheta then Ribeira Seca then it goes to Topo. Have no Lemos in the family tree but have Silveira, Soares Sigueira, Bettencourt Avila, Alveres Silveira others from Rosais. Also family from Pico Faial Terceira but the majority are from Sao Jorge Pico. Would love to find out how we all connect!! Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 9:58 AM, nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Fawn, I hope your father is improving. Both myself and my Uncle John Cardoza Baptiste match Buzzie Mendonca.he shows as 4th -remote match to me and 5th-remote to my uncle.I would have thought it would be just the opposite since Uncle John's a generation earlier. I noticed you are the contact for Dennis Wilbert Silva who is a 4th-remote match to me but not to my uncle. Best regards, Nancy Jean -- Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 23:52:39 -0500 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism From: 2sil...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com A belated thank you to those who helped me with this. My father had a stroke I am in CA caring for him my mother I failed to thank you for your help and ideas. Mary Nancy, my husband's uncle also had his DNA done for us is on the site as Buzzie Mendonca. My husband has a number of family lines that link to Rosais and then the one to Norte Grande. Thanks again, Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:11 PM, nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm also watching this thread with interest since I have connections to Rosais and Norte Grande. These witness names are similar to my names. I haven't noticed a FF match though to others from here for me or my uncle, John Baptiste.except to Rosemarie as a 5th to remote. Nancy Jean Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 14:45:17 -0700 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Rosais, Sao Jorge Baptism From: busybo...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com It looks to me like the priest (Paulo Silveira Bettencourt) baptized the child because they thought he might die. Witnesses were (my guess) Jose de Souza Silveira Bettencourt and Joao Jose de Bettencourt. I am interested since I have connections to Rosais and Norte Grande, plus a DNA match (5th to remote cousin) between myself and your husband. But I don't see an immediate connection to these people. :) Mary On Thursday, March 20, 2014, Fawn Silva 2sil...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry. I forgot to include the link on that http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-ROSAIS-B-1826-1839/SJR-VL-ROSAIS-B-1826-1839_item1/P126.html Thank you, Doug and Antonio. Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Fawn Silva 2sil...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm having trouble understanding a baptism on the CCA site. It is for Antonio, son of Joao Jacinto de Sigueira, native of Rosais Barbara Joaquina Rosa, native of Norte Grande, born on the 25th of May 1834 I think baptized on the 29th in the home. I don't know what the rest says google translate is absolutely no help on this one. I see witnesses but no padrinhos. Did this child die? I checked the obitos could not find him. Why was he baptized in the home? The baptism is on the top left of the pg. Help! Please.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Child of Anacleto de Arruda and Maria da Natividad SM Vila Franca do Campo
Maybe Clara? Mnk -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Obitos records - NS da Luz, Graciosa - de Mendonca's and de Bettencourts
I found death records last night for several of the de Mendonca's and de Bettencourt's in my cousins family as follows: I am having trouble with the age of the below people at the time of their deaths. I seem to have no trouble reading dates (months and the year; but the ages - they give my eyes a headache) #1. Jose Antonio, son of Francisco Antonio de Mendonca, died December 1825 I am having trouble reading his age at the time of his death. It is the record at the bottom of the right page and continues to the top of the next page (images 195 and 196) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-LUZ-O-1770-1836/GRA-SC-LUZ-O-1770-1836_item1/P195.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-LUZ-O-1770-1836/GRA-SC-LUZ-O-1770-1836_item1/P196.html #2 Dona Florinda Baptista de Bettencourt (wife of Francisco Antonio de Mendonca died October 23, 1825 Same problem here, I cannot ready her age at death. Top of left page http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-LUZ-O-1770-1836/GRA-SC-LUZ-O-1770-1836_item1/P193.html #3 Dona Maria de Jesus (daughter of Antonio Correa de Mendonca) died November 1813 And, again; I can't figure out her age. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-LUZ-O-1770-1836/GRA-SC-LUZ-O-1770-1836_item1/P138.html Any and all help greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance! Lee WV -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Obitos records - NS da Luz, Graciosa - de Mendonca's and de Bettencourts
Hi Lee, Jose was 35 more or less Florinda was 45 more or less Someone else will have to weigh in with Maria Nancy Jean Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 14:29:45 -0700 From: shorts...@suddenlink.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Obitos records - NS da Luz, Graciosa - de Mendonca's and de Bettencourts I found death records last night for several of the de Mendonca's and de Bettencourt's in my cousins family as follows: I am having trouble with the age of the below people at the time of their deaths. I seem to have no trouble reading dates (months and the year; but the ages - they give my eyes a headache) #1. Jose Antonio, son of Francisco Antonio de Mendonca, died December 1825 I am having trouble reading his age at the time of his death. It is the record at the bottom of the right page and continues to the top of the next page (images 195 and 196) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-LUZ-O-1770-1836/GRA-SC-LUZ-O-1770-1836_item1/P195.htmlhttp://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-LUZ-O-1770-1836/GRA-SC-LUZ-O-1770-1836_item1/P196.html #2 Dona Florinda Baptista de Bettencourt (wife of Francisco Antonio de Mendoncadied October 23, 1825Same problem here, I cannot ready her age at death. Top of left page http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-LUZ-O-1770-1836/GRA-SC-LUZ-O-1770-1836_item1/P193.html #3 Dona Maria de Jesus (daughter of Antonio Correa de Mendonca)died November 1813And, again; I can't figure out her age. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-LUZ-O-1770-1836/GRA-SC-LUZ-O-1770-1836_item1/P138.html Any and all help greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance! Lee WV -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rogers family from Newcastle, California
My Rogers family is from cricao Velho and so are the Tavares family. We go way back to the 1700's. Marlene Freitas Sent from my iPad On Apr 2, 2014, at 9:15 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Hi Diane, I am pretty sure your Noia family is from Flores. Is your Rogers family from Criação Velha, Pico? If so, then I suppose Aileen Gage is your cousin? Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member From: Diane Cox d...@wwdb.org Date: Wed, April 02, 2014 7:29 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Happy Birthday, Lionel! Diane Lapp Cox Noia and Rogers families from Newcastle -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Obitos records - NS da Luz, Graciosa - de Mendonca's and de Bettencourts
If I picked the correct record (lower right), I see thisonthe end of line three: dedezanovean- nos He did not pick up his pen. de dezanove an-nos (of 19 years. Years is hyphenated). ca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] The new Population Finder (renamed myOrigins) is coming soon!
For those who have tested with Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) and took the Family Finder test The new ethnicity breakdown is coming. I have a beta/preview of it and can see your ethnic breakdowns. I'm confused! Now I know why that email said soon. My dad: 97% European 47% European Coastal Islands 39% North Mediterranean Basin 8% European Coastal Plains 2% North Circumpolar (guess I better learn some new words) 2% Middle Eastern 2% East Afroasiatic 2% African 2% East African Pastoralists OK, that's way over 100%!!! So I'm guessing that there's some divider thing that's not displaying properly. So I'll take a guess that my dad, who used to be 99.9% Western European under the old Population Finder is 97% European now and 3% other. If I add 47+39+8+2+2+2+2+2 I get 104%. So I'm guessing a few of those numbers are rounded up (for instance, the 2% are really 1.5% and the 8% is really a 7.5%, etc). I don't see where the French, Portuguese, Polish, Russia part is. I know they told me that Portugal is working. OK, where's it hiding? And the map is cut off. I don't know how to explain this, but I see the Equator and a few countries above and below the Equator. If I try to move the map, I move my dad and his list of Afroasiatic, Patorialists, and Circumpolar around! If you are really eager to learn about your Circumpolar and Pastorialist breakdowns, I will look it up for you, but just to let you know, I'm pretty busy until Monday (festa season starts here). I will do my best to try to get back to you but I have a full 3 days ahead of me. Cheri Mello FTDNA Admin (volunteer) Azores DNA Project -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Child of Sebastiaom Jacome and Maria
Fifth baptism down on left page http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1671-1699/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1671-1699_item1/P57.html Is it Joam(?) son of Sebastiaom Jacome- not certain the mother is Maria Da Costa. Or Maria dos Anjos. I know from other records that her last name is Da Costa but it looked like her middle name is given here if it is. Dos Anjos! Can anyone read what it says about the godparents? Gaspar DI braga(?) and Maria Vella children of manoel Cabral , dead( ?) 12 January 1690 (?) Thank you for taking a look. Maria Elena -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Santa Maria marriage: Name of groom, Bride and her parents
Manoel- do you also descend from Sebastiaom Jacome de Resendes. That was so nice of you to send the information from the Rodrigo Rodrigues book. Did RR compile information about these people from reading about them somewhere? In the case where it mentions a Sebastiaom Jacome de Resendes- point 5- I noticed this guy was living way earlier than the one I'm researching. The one in the RR Book lived around 1633 ( he was a witness at something?) Then, number 7: this is the man I'm researching. You had am question mark so I don't know if you added this tentatively or it was in the RR Book. I feel pretty stupid asking but what exactly is the rebook. I know there are several volumes. I do hope this is theright guy because once I tie him in to the Mestre Antonio that you mentioned, them there may be research already done. (Or not?) Maria Elena On May 1, 2014, at 8:34 AM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote: Maria, Here´s what I have from RR. See below. And we share a common ancestor, I also descend from João Vaz, o das Virtudes. Manoel CAPÍTULO 30.º DA DESCENDÊNCIA DE MESTRE ANTÓNIO, CATALÃO 1 - António (talvez do apelido Curvelo), Mestre Catalão. Veio para a Ilha de Santa Maria no princípio da sua colonização, mandado pelo Infante D. Henrique para tratar da plantação de cana de açúcar e do seu fabrico. Era da Catalunha e veio já casado para Santa Maria, tendo aí recebido dadas de terras. Morreu com mais de 110 anos (Vide Frutuoso, Livro III, Cap.º II e III). Ignora-se com quem casou, mas sabe-se que foi seu filho: 2 - Francisco Curvelo (Vide Frutuoso, Livro III, Cap.º II), casou na Ilha de Santa Maria com Guiomar Guardeza, mulher nobre. 3 - Francisco Curvelo (Vide Frutuoso Livro IV, Cap.º XXXII), jaz na Matriz Vila do Porto, entre as duas naves da porta travessa da banda do sul para cima (como diz o testamento do filho António). Casou em S. Miguel com Filipa Faleiro de Resendes (Cap.º 31.º § 1.º N.º 3) 4 - Filipe Jácome de Resendes, natural da Ilha de Santa Maria e aí morador. Seus irmãos, Manuel e António, instituidores e 1.º e 2.º padroeiros do Recolhimento da Madalena mandam que sejam depois padroeiros os filhos e descendentes deste seu irmão Filipe (Vide Arquivo dos Açores, Vol.º XIII, pág. 552 e Vol.º XIV pág. 110 e 113). Casou com Maria de Sousa que a 3.2.1594, já viúva, em Vila do Porto, figurou na escritura de instituição e doação do dito Recolhimento. 5 - Sebastião Jácome de Resendes, que fez testamento a 5.4.1633, aprovado a 20.2.1634.(Nota N.º 5). Casou a 2.ª vez com Maria dos Santos. 6 - Manuel de Sousa de Resendes, que viveu com sua mulher no lugar de Santa Bárbara, em Santa Maria, onde baptizou filhos em 1644. Casou na Matriz de Vila do Porto a 3.l.1639, com Isabel Velha, de 16 anos, filha de Belchior Romeiro e Simoa Travassos. 7 - Sebastião Jácome de Resendes, casou com Maria da Costa de Almada, de Santo Espírito? 8 - João Jácome de Resendes ou de Sousa de Resendes, casou em Santo Espírito a 7.5.1725 com Maria da Paixão filha de António de Almada e Catarina... CAPÍTULO 31.º DA DESCENDÊNCIA DE JOÃO VAZ FEIO OU FALEIRO OU MELÃO; OU SIMPLESMENTE JOÃO VAZ, O DAS VIRTUDES. 1 - João Vaz Feio ou Faleiro ou Melão, ou mais propriamente, João Vaz o das Virtudes, natural da Covilhã, donde foi para a Ilha da Madeira e daqui para a Ilha de Santa Maria, onde el-rei D. Manuel lhe deu terras por ele o curar de uma doença. Em 18.10.1554, foi testemunha do testamento de Duarte Nunes Velho. Frutuoso refere-se-lhe no Livro III das Saudades da Terra, Capítulo II e III; IX e XI, e no Livro IV, Cap.º XXXII e XXXIII (Nota N.º 1). Casou na Ilha da Madeira com Estevazinha Vicente da geração dos Cogumbreiros. 2 - Fernão Vaz Faleiro, citado por Frutuoso no Livro III das Saudades da Terra, Cap.º XIV e no Livro IV, Cap.º XXXII. Casou com Filipa de Resendes, parente de Domingos Afonso de Resendes, de S. Roque (S. Miguel), segundo Frutuoso. 3 - Filipa Faleiro de Resendes, (Vide Frutuoso, Livro IV, Cap.º 3º) que casou na Ilha de Santa Maria com Francisco Curvelo (Cap.º 30.º § primeiro, N.º 3). -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rogers family from Newcastle, California
Unfortunately with your email coming through as "'Marlene Frietas' via Azores Genealogy" there is no way to email you directly. I wonder what's up with this new way to appear on this list...So Marlene, I would be interested to know a specific person named Rodrigues and Tavares in your family tree from Criacao Velha.And if you have done the Family Finder DNA test (which I most highly recommend for you) I am certain you are going to find many matches. One in particular to look for is Ricardo Oliveira, because his link to me might come from his mysterious Criacao Velha ancestor and I'd love to figure that one out.You can write me directly, if you prefer:p...@dholmes.comThanks,Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rogers family from Newcastle, California From: "'Marlene Frietas' via Azores Genealogy" azores@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, May 01, 2014 3:46 pm To: "azores@googlegroups.com" azores@googlegroups.com My Rogers family is from cricao Velho and so are the Tavares family. We go way back to the 1700's.Marlene FreitasSent from my iPadOn Apr 2, 2014, at 9:15 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote:Hi Diane,I am pretty sure your Noia family is from Flores.Is your Rogers family from Criação Velha, Pico?If so, then I suppose Aileen Gage is your cousin?Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list
Fawn; My guess is that our connection is thru your husband’s Sao Jorge Machado line but; as yet sadly, I don’t see the connection. Sam in CA Sent from Windows Mail From: Fawn Silva Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 11:59 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Sam, My husband is Dennis Silva on your list his maternal uncle is Buzzie Mendonca, also on your list. I have a gedcom for Dennis on the site but not for Buzzie yet. I will try to get that done in this next wk. Hope it will help! Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
