Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: MyHeritage

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Yes, Tish, they need to have another 'choice' that says 'no surname on
women' as Cheri suggested. They won't, I'm sure, so we will have to go in
and change them ourselves if we want to have out tree in these other
websites.

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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Tish M  wrote:

> My request would be to let the person entering the data enter without the
> help of the program. If they choose to just use first and middle name so be
> it. Good luck trying to get a company to change. Once they gone down one
> path they aren't likely to take a step up or go down another path.
>
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> Yes, ALL companies need to start taking more of a global perspective when
>> it comes to attracting genealogists from all over the world. Naming
>> patterns are not the same world wide. I'm not a member of My Heritage, but
>> maybe those of you who are should email them and ask for the option of "no
>> surname" assigned. Those of Mexican heritage would need First name, dad's
>> surname, mom's surname (I think) and it sounds like My Heritage doesn't
>> offer that either.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
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>> Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MyHeritage

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Yes, Margaret, it just makes me very upset with these different programs,
they assume that everyone is just like us in the USA!! We went over this
with Personal Ancestry File (PAF) and they finally addressed the issue in
LegacyFamily Tree. They should accept what we enter and not 'generalize'
and change things as they see fit but I don't believe that is going to
happen!  They just went ahead a tacked on the husbands surname as a given,
it is *not* the way I entered it into their program!

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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Margaret Vicente  wrote:

> Rosemarie,
>
> I don't think it should be generalized like that.  No, not all Azorean
> women assumed their husband's name.  That didnt' happen until some time
> after the 1900'stime lines should be paid careful attention to.
>
> Women did not take on their husbands surname's on until recent
> times...around or after the 1900's.  My own Grandmothers did not take on my
> Grandfather's surname on both sides. Slowly after that they were either
> given to carry on with their parents name or given an heavenly one. When
> the Franciscan's friars of the 3rd order tookover the islands they began to
> make women invisible by instilling in them that to be be holy they had too
> give themselves up and in order to do this they give up their individuality
> and name rights and become Mary and become Mary of the Angels etc.  Most of
> the rich and spunky women were able and smart enough to carry on with their
> family names for they brought huge dowries along with them and they alone
> decided who amongst them was to inherit it.
>
> These programs use the terminology of "nee" born or maiden name which is
> correct for those who may have adopted their husbands name.
>
> Something very important to note also was that even in the 1950's and
> after that a woman who wanted to assume their husband's surname after
> marriage had to request it,  register it and pay for it so to legalize it.
> And, this is noted in every record of birth.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 3:42 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just thought I would let the list know about how MyHeritage website lists
>> their names in genealogy trees. I was told by a teacher of genealogy to
>> enter my tree in all of the sites that have this available: MyHeritage,
>> PastTimes, FamilySearch and Ancestry as they all have different search
>> parameters and data bases to search (and they all have free access except
>> Ancestry). I decided to start putting my tree into MyHeritage. Now, it's
>> okay *except* that they list the females by their married name with the
>> maiden name in parenthesis.  This is bad for the Azores because most, as we
>> know, do use a married name! This is okay in the US but not okay with our
>> Portuguese names nor my Italian side! I've emailed them but I don't believe
>> that it will make any difference, just wanted you to know this quirk in
>> case you are planning on entering some of your names into these 'other'
>> genealogy sites!
>>
>> Rosemarie
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>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cordeiro Miranda and Viveiros immigrated to Massachusetts

[Judi Phillips]

Typo s/b 1907.
Sorry

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 18, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Judi Phillips  wrote:
> 
> Agostinho C. Miranda age 42 his wife Maria J age 37 and their 10 children 
> Arrived in Boston 9 Jul 1007, going to his uncle Antonio Motta, 319 Ferry 
> St., Fall River, MA.  They were from Bretanha, Sao Miguel.
> Hope this helps
> Judi
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>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
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>> Repost for Josh, trailrunner6288 at gmail.com
>> 
>> I was wondering if any of you might be able to tell me more about Agostinho 
>> Cordeiro Miranda, Maria Julia Vivieros, and their children who immigrated to 
>> Massachusetts.
>> 
>> I believe I am related to one of their sons and would love to piece more of 
>> the family tree together.
>> 
>> Thank you kindly,
>> 
>> Josh
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Pereira obito Faial de Terra

[JR]

Here is my update. I have one baptism for Manuel in 
1699. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1555-1700/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1555-1700_item1/P178.html
Could not find baptism for Xavier de Melo. suspect he goes by another name 
and altered it.

JR

 

*Descendants of Manuel Pereira **Braga*

 

 

*Generation No. 1*

 

*1.*  MANUEL PEREIRA3 BRAGA*  (M**ANUEL*2 *P**EREIRA* *D**UTRA**, U**NKNOWN*
1* S**POUSE**)* was born Abt. 1671 in Povoacao- Mae de Deus, res Agua 
Retorta, and died 05 Sep 1740 in Faial da Terra- NS da Graca.  He married 
(1) MARIA CORREIA 08 Oct 1696 in Faial da Terra- NS da Graca, daughter of M
ANUEL SALGUEIRO and MARIA CORREIA.  She was born in Faial da Terra, NS da 
Graca, and died Bef. 05 Jun 1707.  He married (2) LUZIA SOUSA DE MELO 05 
Jun 1707 in Faial da Terra- NS da Graca, daughter of ANDRE LUIS DE ALMADA 
and MARIA PEREIRA DE SENRA.  She was born in Nordeste- Sao Jorge, resident 
of Agua Retorta.



Children of MANUEL BRAGA and MARIA CORREIA are:

  i.ANTONIA4, b. 11 Jun 1698, Faial da Terra, NS da 
Graca.

  ii.MANUEL PEREIRA BRAGA, b. 08 Nov 1699, Faial da 
Terra, NS da Graca; m. LUZIA DE RESENDES, 27 Apr 1730, Faial da Terra- NS 
da Graca; b. 05 Dec 1704, Faial da Terra, NS da Graca.

 iii.MARIA, b. 27 Aug 1701, Faial da Terra, NS da Graca.

 iv.BARBARA, b. 24 Sep 1703, Faial da Terra, NS da 
Graca.

 v.ANTONIO VIEIRA, b. 11 Dec 1704, Faial da Terra, NS 
da Graca; m. MARIA DA SILVA, 26 Dec 1736, Faial da Terra- NS da Graca; b. 
Faial da Terra- NS da Graca.

 



Children of MANUEL BRAGA and LUZIA MELO are:

 vi.MANUEL4, b. 10 Sep 1708, Faial da Terra, NS da 
Graca.

vii.LUIZA, b. 02 Jul 1710, Faial da Terra, NS da Graca.

   viii.FRANCISCA DE MELO OR RESENDES DE VASCONCELOS, b. 09 
Mar 1713, Faial da Terra, NS da Graca; m. FRANCISCO DE SENRA, 06 Dec 1730, 
Faial da Terra- NS da Graca; b. 21 Jun 1710, Faial da Terra, NS da Graca.

 ix.FRANCISCO, b. 22 Sep 1716, Faial da Terra, NS da 
Graca.

 x.XAVIER DE MELO, b. Abt. 1717, Faial da Terra, NS da 
Graca; m. TERESA DE RESENDES, 30 Aug 1741, Faial da Terra- NS da Graca; b. 
19 Feb 1714, Faial da Terra- NS da Graca.

 xi.MARIA, b. 22 May 1719, Faial da Terra, NS da Graca.

 

 

On Saturday, March 19, 2016 at 1:11:14 PM UTC-4, Júlio wrote:
>
> depois de Ver o obito, fico com algumas duvidas MANUEL PEREIRA DE BRAGA 
> Faleceu a 5 Set 1740 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-O-1730-1781/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-O-1730-1781_item1/P22.html,
>  
> diz no obito que ele faleceu com 88 aproximadamente. Assim ele nasceu por 
> volta de 1652, o casamento que tenho dos Pais dele Manuel Pereira Dutra e 
> Ana Ferreira é de 18 Mar 1669 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1622-1683/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1622-1683_item1/P118.html
> .
>
> Será que o Manuel Pereira de Braga nasceu 17 anos antes dos Pais casarem???
>
>
>
>> Do you happen to have the link to Manuel Pereira da Braga's [33293] 
>> baptism record?
>>
>> Paul G.
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 4:35:16 PM UTC-4, Júlio wrote:
>>>
>>> *Manuel Pereira de BRAGA I [33293]*,1 filho de *Manuel Pereira DUTRA*
>>>  [8446] 1 e *Ana FERREIRA* [33766],1 nasceu em 1662 em Fenais Da Ajuda, 
>>> e faleceu a 5 Set 1740 em Faial Da Terra com 78 anos de idade. 
>>>
>>> Notas gerais: 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-O-1730-1781/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-O-1730-1781_item1/P22.html
>>>
>>> Manuel casou com *Maria CORREIA* [31924] 1 [MRIN: 15306], filha de *Manuel 
>>> Rebelo SALGUEIRO* [7941] 2 e *Maria CORREIA* [7948],2 a 8 Out 1696 em 
>>> Faial Da Terra. Maria nasceu em Faial Da Terra, e faleceu Bef 7 Jun 1707 em 
>>> Faial Da Terra. 
>>>
>>> *Filhos deste casamento:*
>>>
>>> + 2 Mi. *Manuel Pereira de BRAGA [14683]* 2 nasceu a 19 Set 1706 em 
>>> Faial Da Terra. 
>>>
>>>3 Fii. *Antonia [7952]* 2 nasceu a 11 Jun 1698 em Faial Da 
>>> Terra. 
>>>
>>>4 Fiii. *Maria [7953]* 2 nasceu a 4 Dez 1701 em Faial Da Terra. 
>>>
>>>5 Miv. *Vicente PEREIRA [7955]* 2 nasceu Abt 1702 em Faial Da 
>>> Terra. 
>>>
>>>6 Mv. *Antonio VIEIRA [7957]* 2 nasceu a 17 Nov 1704 em Faial Da 
>>> Terra. 
>>>
>>>7 Fvi. *Luisa [7961]* 2 nasceu a 11 Jul 1700 em Faial Da Terra. 
>>>
>>> Manuel a seguir casou com *Luisa de MELO* [35689] 1 [MRIN: 15797], 
>>> filha de *André Luis de ALMADA* [50986] e *Maria Pereira de SENRA* [50987], 
>>> a 5 Jun 1707 em Faial Da Terra. Luisa nasceu em 1682 em Nordeste, e faleceu 
>>> a 9 Set 1742 em Faial Da Terra com 60 anos de idade. 
>>>
>>> *Filhos deste casamento:*
>>>
>>> + 8 Fi. *Francisca Ricarda de Resendes Vasconcelos MELO [7963]* 2 
>>> nasceu 
>>> a 9 Mar 1713 

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Luzia, daughter of Nicolau de Souza and Maria de Souza in Sao Miguel VFDC

[bsei2816]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743_item1/P225.html

I believe this is the marriage of (starts bottom left) Nicolau and 
Emmerencianna on 4 Sep 1731, less than a year after Luzia's baptism (19 Dec 
1730) in which Nicolau and Maria were said to be betrothed (I believe).  I 
does say he is the widower of Maria de Souza so it appears they did marry 
(right page line 5).

Glancing through the obits and casamentos between these dates however I was 
unable to find Maria's obit or her marriage to Nicolau,

Bill Seidler

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Jorge Is, Rita Margarida da Silva born 1865

[bsei2816]

de ele (of him) usually contracted as "dele". 

It says "...Manuel Joaquim da Silva, madrinha a mulher de ele Philomena..." 
 This would mean the same as Manuel e a sua mulher..., just saying "wife of 
him" instead of "his wife".  

I just don't understand why Manuel's wife's name changed from Margarida to 
Philomena between the two parts of the record.  It doesn't say Margarida, 
ja defuncta, so I would expect that he has the same wife in both paragraphs.

My wife helped me out with the word in the 1865 Topo record that I had 
trouble with.  It is então and it was saying that Roza Victorina (the 
maternal grandmother) was single at the time of her daughter's birth (but 
presumably married sometime after that)

Bill Seidler.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Pereira obito Faial de Terra

[EResendes]

Julio do you have more information on Andre Luis de Almada listed below?  I 
have that his father was Andre Luis and mother was Maria Faleira.

On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 4:35:16 PM UTC-4, Júlio wrote:
>
> *Manuel Pereira de BRAGA I [33293]*,1 filho de *Manuel Pereira DUTRA*
>  [8446] 1 e *Ana FERREIRA* [33766],1 nasceu em 1662 em Fenais Da Ajuda, e 
> faleceu a 5 Set 1740 em Faial Da Terra com 78 anos de idade. 
>
> Notas gerais: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-O-1730-1781/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-O-1730-1781_item1/P22.html
>
> Manuel casou com *Maria CORREIA* [31924] 1 [MRIN: 15306], filha de *Manuel 
> Rebelo SALGUEIRO* [7941] 2 e *Maria CORREIA* [7948],2 a 8 Out 1696 em 
> Faial Da Terra. Maria nasceu em Faial Da Terra, e faleceu Bef 7 Jun 1707 em 
> Faial Da Terra. 
>
> *Filhos deste casamento:*
>
> + 2 Mi. *Manuel Pereira de BRAGA [14683]* 2 nasceu a 19 Set 1706 em 
> Faial Da Terra. 
>
>3 Fii. *Antonia [7952]* 2 nasceu a 11 Jun 1698 em Faial Da Terra. 
>
>4 Fiii. *Maria [7953]* 2 nasceu a 4 Dez 1701 em Faial Da Terra. 
>
>5 Miv. *Vicente PEREIRA [7955]* 2 nasceu Abt 1702 em Faial Da 
> Terra. 
>
>6 Mv. *Antonio VIEIRA [7957]* 2 nasceu a 17 Nov 1704 em Faial Da 
> Terra. 
>
>7 Fvi. *Luisa [7961]* 2 nasceu a 11 Jul 1700 em Faial Da Terra. 
>
> Manuel a seguir casou com *Luisa de MELO* [35689] 1 [MRIN: 15797], filha 
> de *André Luis de ALMADA* [50986] e *Maria Pereira de SENRA* [50987], a 5 
> Jun 1707 em Faial Da Terra. Luisa nasceu em 1682 em Nordeste, e faleceu a 9 
> Set 1742 em Faial Da Terra com 60 anos de idade. 
>
> *Filhos deste casamento:*
>
> + 8 Fi. *Francisca Ricarda de Resendes Vasconcelos MELO [7963]* 2 nasceu 
> a 9 Mar 1713 em Faial Da Terra. 
>
>9 Fii. *Maria Ana Vasconcelos de BRAGA [7965]* 2 nasceu a 20 Mai 
> 1719 em Faial Da Terra. 
>
>10 Miii. *Manuel BRAGA [19842]* 2 nasceu a 19 Set 1708 em Faial Da 
> Terra. 
>
> Notas gerais: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1700-1725/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1700-1725_item1/P66.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Jorge Is, Rita Margarida da Silva born 1865

[Marilyn Thompson]

When I have some time I think I will see if I can find the marriage on
Manuel and Margarida.

As I was reading Bill's information, I had a thought. Could the Manuel and
Philomena be another couple, say his parents?


On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 11:49 AM,  wrote:

> de ele (of him) usually contracted as "dele".
>
> It says "...Manuel Joaquim da Silva, madrinha a mulher de ele
> Philomena..."  This would mean the same as Manuel e a sua mulher..., just
> saying "wife of him" instead of "his wife".
>
> I just don't understand why Manuel's wife's name changed from Margarida to
> Philomena between the two parts of the record.  It doesn't say Margarida,
> ja defuncta, so I would expect that he has the same wife in both paragraphs.
>
> My wife helped me out with the word in the 1865 Topo record that I had
> trouble with.  It is então and it was saying that Roza Victorina (the
> maternal grandmother) was single at the time of her daughter's birth (but
> presumably married sometime after that)
>
> Bill Seidler.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Super thanks!

[Sandra Perez]

Your welcome.

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 6:58 PM, Barb Davis  wrote:

> I just wanted to tell everyone that I'm so thankful for this group and all
> that I've learned. I am enjoying working on azorean genealogy of those I
> love who have gone before.  While I feel out of my comfort zone often, I
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Luzia, daughter of Nicolau de Souza and Maria de Souza in Sao Miguel VFDC

[mnk]

Bill is correct, they were not yet married. Nicolau and Emmerencianna are my 
ancestors too, they are my 6th great grandparents.
MNK

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Subject Lines

[Cheri Mello]

It's says:
Hi Cheri J

A Google search is saying that Outlook people will have other things
displayed if the receiver is not using Outlook. I don't use Outlook. (I see
it with other people too, but whatever you put after my name, you like it
and use it a lot! I'm guessing it's some type of smiley :)

Cheri

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On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva <
eliseuman...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Cheri J
>
> Please send me back one of my emails with the “J”… I would like to try to
> correct it. I have Windows 10, 64.
>
>
>
> eliseu
>
>
>
> *De:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *Em nome
> de *Cheri Mello
> *Enviada:* 16 de março de 2016 14:20
> *Para:* Azores Genealogy 
> *Assunto:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Subject Lines
>
>
>
> You can't (to my knowledge).
>
> Because we are all on different computers of different ages, it's best to
> avoid bolding, underlining, etc. And colors and graphics. They may not
> display correctly on the other end (Eliseu's graphic always comes out as
> the letter "J" on my end. I don't know what graphic he tries to put there,
> but it doesn't display in Windows 8 or in Gmail, I don't know which). You
> can still use the symbols for smileys, as I believe those come through :)
>
> I use caps if I need something bolded. I use the asterisk if I need
> something italicized. Example: I *think* he said he wanted to go NOW.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Pereira obito Faial de Terra

[EResendes]

Thanks for the information.

On Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 12:47:30 AM UTC-4, Júlio wrote:
>
> Have also one MANUEL LUIS DE ALMADA that his son maried in Faial da Terra 21 
> Dez 1744
>
> *1. Manuel Luis de ALMADA [43443]* . 
>
> Manuel casou com *Maria REBELO* [43444] [MRIN: 20393]. 
>
> *Filho/a deste casamento:*
>
>2 Mi. *José LUIS [43440]* . 
>
> José casou com *Maria de MEDEIROS* [43436] [MRIN: 20391], filha de *João 
> de Sousa FAGUNDES* [14822] 1 e *Maria de MEDEIROS* [14821],1 a 21 Dez 
> 1744 em Faial Da Terra. 
>
> quarta-feira, 16 de Março de 2016 às 13:54:46 UTC-1, EResendes escreveu:
>>
>> Julio do you have more information on Andre Luis de Almada listed below? 
>>  I have that his father was Andre Luis and mother was Maria Faleira.
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 4:35:16 PM UTC-4, Júlio wrote:
>>>
>>> *Manuel Pereira de BRAGA I [33293]*,1 filho de *Manuel Pereira DUTRA*
>>>  [8446] 1 e *Ana FERREIRA* [33766],1 nasceu em 1662 em Fenais Da Ajuda, 
>>> e faleceu a 5 Set 1740 em Faial Da Terra com 78 anos de idade. 
>>>
>>> Notas gerais: 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-O-1730-1781/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-O-1730-1781_item1/P22.html
>>>
>>> Manuel casou com *Maria CORREIA* [31924] 1 [MRIN: 15306], filha de *Manuel 
>>> Rebelo SALGUEIRO* [7941] 2 e *Maria CORREIA* [7948],2 a 8 Out 1696 em 
>>> Faial Da Terra. Maria nasceu em Faial Da Terra, e faleceu Bef 7 Jun 1707 em 
>>> Faial Da Terra. 
>>>
>>> *Filhos deste casamento:*
>>>
>>> + 2 Mi. *Manuel Pereira de BRAGA [14683]* 2 nasceu a 19 Set 1706 em 
>>> Faial Da Terra. 
>>>
>>>3 Fii. *Antonia [7952]* 2 nasceu a 11 Jun 1698 em Faial Da 
>>> Terra. 
>>>
>>>4 Fiii. *Maria [7953]* 2 nasceu a 4 Dez 1701 em Faial Da Terra. 
>>>
>>>5 Miv. *Vicente PEREIRA [7955]* 2 nasceu Abt 1702 em Faial Da 
>>> Terra. 
>>>
>>>6 Mv. *Antonio VIEIRA [7957]* 2 nasceu a 17 Nov 1704 em Faial Da 
>>> Terra. 
>>>
>>>7 Fvi. *Luisa [7961]* 2 nasceu a 11 Jul 1700 em Faial Da Terra. 
>>>
>>> Manuel a seguir casou com *Luisa de MELO* [35689] 1 [MRIN: 15797], 
>>> filha de *André Luis de ALMADA* [50986] e *Maria Pereira de SENRA* [50987], 
>>> a 5 Jun 1707 em Faial Da Terra. Luisa nasceu em 1682 em Nordeste, e faleceu 
>>> a 9 Set 1742 em Faial Da Terra com 60 anos de idade. 
>>>
>>> *Filhos deste casamento:*
>>>
>>> + 8 Fi. *Francisca Ricarda de Resendes Vasconcelos MELO [7963]* 2 
>>> nasceu 
>>> a 9 Mar 1713 em Faial Da Terra. 
>>>
>>>9 Fii. *Maria Ana Vasconcelos de BRAGA [7965]* 2 nasceu a 20 Mai 
>>> 1719 em Faial Da Terra. 
>>>
>>>10 Miii. *Manuel BRAGA [19842]* 2 nasceu a 19 Set 1708 em Faial 
>>> Da Terra. 
>>>
>>> Notas gerais: 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1700-1725/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1700-1725_item1/P66.html
>>>
>>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Subject Lines

[Sandra Perez]

Thank you Cheri.

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 8:19 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> You can't (to my knowledge).
>
> Because we are all on different computers of different ages, it's best to
> avoid bolding, underlining, etc. And colors and graphics. They may not
> display correctly on the other end (Eliseu's graphic always comes out as
> the letter "J" on my end. I don't know what graphic he tries to put there,
> but it doesn't display in Windows 8 or in Gmail, I don't know which). You
> can still use the symbols for smileys, as I believe those come through :)
>
> I use caps if I need something bolded. I use the asterisk if I need
> something italicized. Example: I *think* he said he wanted to go NOW.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Pereira obito Faial de Terra

[Júlio]

Have also one MANUEL LUIS DE ALMADA that his son maried in Faial da Terra 21 
Dez 1744

*1. Manuel Luis de ALMADA [43443]* . 

Manuel casou com *Maria REBELO* [43444] [MRIN: 20393]. 

*Filho/a deste casamento:*

   2 Mi. *José LUIS [43440]* . 

José casou com *Maria de MEDEIROS* [43436] [MRIN: 20391], filha de *João de 
Sousa FAGUNDES* [14822] 1  e *Maria 
de MEDEIROS* [14821],1  a 21 Dez 
1744 em Faial Da Terra. 

quarta-feira, 16 de Março de 2016 às 13:54:46 UTC-1, EResendes escreveu:
>
> Julio do you have more information on Andre Luis de Almada listed below? 
>  I have that his father was Andre Luis and mother was Maria Faleira.
>
> On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 4:35:16 PM UTC-4, Júlio wrote:
>>
>> *Manuel Pereira de BRAGA I [33293]*,1 filho de *Manuel Pereira DUTRA*
>>  [8446] 1 e *Ana FERREIRA* [33766],1 nasceu em 1662 em Fenais Da Ajuda, 
>> e faleceu a 5 Set 1740 em Faial Da Terra com 78 anos de idade. 
>>
>> Notas gerais: 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-O-1730-1781/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-O-1730-1781_item1/P22.html
>>
>> Manuel casou com *Maria CORREIA* [31924] 1 [MRIN: 15306], filha de *Manuel 
>> Rebelo SALGUEIRO* [7941] 2 e *Maria CORREIA* [7948],2 a 8 Out 1696 em 
>> Faial Da Terra. Maria nasceu em Faial Da Terra, e faleceu Bef 7 Jun 1707 em 
>> Faial Da Terra. 
>>
>> *Filhos deste casamento:*
>>
>> + 2 Mi. *Manuel Pereira de BRAGA [14683]* 2 nasceu a 19 Set 1706 em 
>> Faial Da Terra. 
>>
>>3 Fii. *Antonia [7952]* 2 nasceu a 11 Jun 1698 em Faial Da Terra. 
>>
>>4 Fiii. *Maria [7953]* 2 nasceu a 4 Dez 1701 em Faial Da Terra. 
>>
>>5 Miv. *Vicente PEREIRA [7955]* 2 nasceu Abt 1702 em Faial Da 
>> Terra. 
>>
>>6 Mv. *Antonio VIEIRA [7957]* 2 nasceu a 17 Nov 1704 em Faial Da 
>> Terra. 
>>
>>7 Fvi. *Luisa [7961]* 2 nasceu a 11 Jul 1700 em Faial Da Terra. 
>>
>> Manuel a seguir casou com *Luisa de MELO* [35689] 1 [MRIN: 15797], filha 
>> de *André Luis de ALMADA* [50986] e *Maria Pereira de SENRA* [50987], a 
>> 5 Jun 1707 em Faial Da Terra. Luisa nasceu em 1682 em Nordeste, e faleceu a 
>> 9 Set 1742 em Faial Da Terra com 60 anos de idade. 
>>
>> *Filhos deste casamento:*
>>
>> + 8 Fi. *Francisca Ricarda de Resendes Vasconcelos MELO [7963]* 2 nasceu 
>> a 9 Mar 1713 em Faial Da Terra. 
>>
>>9 Fii. *Maria Ana Vasconcelos de BRAGA [7965]* 2 nasceu a 20 Mai 
>> 1719 em Faial Da Terra. 
>>
>>10 Miii. *Manuel BRAGA [19842]* 2 nasceu a 19 Set 1708 em Faial 
>> Da Terra. 
>>
>> Notas gerais: 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1700-1725/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1700-1725_item1/P66.html
>>
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] MyHeritage

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Hi all,

Just thought I would let the list know about how MyHeritage website lists
their names in genealogy trees. I was told by a teacher of genealogy to
enter my tree in all of the sites that have this available: MyHeritage,
PastTimes, FamilySearch and Ancestry as they all have different search
parameters and data bases to search (and they all have free access except
Ancestry). I decided to start putting my tree into MyHeritage. Now, it's
okay *except* that they list the females by their married name with the
maiden name in parenthesis.  This is bad for the Azores because most, as we
know, do use a married name! This is okay in the US but not okay with our
Portuguese names nor my Italian side! I've emailed them but I don't believe
that it will make any difference, just wanted you to know this quirk in
case you are planning on entering some of your names into these 'other'
genealogy sites!

Rosemarie
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Luzia, daughter of Nicolau de Souza and Maria de Souza in Sao Miguel VFDC

[bsei2816]

After a lot of help from my wife (a native speaker), I came up with "com a 
qual tem contraido esponsais" which means they are betrothed to marry.

Bill Seidler

On Saturday, March 19, 2016 at 6:57:42 AM UTC-7, audiosourceinc wrote:

> I am unable to read and translate the phrase after the mother’s name 
> “Maria de Souza”, and before “residents of this freguesia…”
>
> Record is right side, top entry
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1730-1739/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1730-1739_item1/P9.html
>
>  
>
> Thank you,
>
> Erica Botelho
>
> Vancouver, Washington
>
>  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cordeiro Miranda and Viveiros immigrated to Massachusetts

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Josh, just looking quickly thru the passporte apps I found an Agustino
Cordeiro Miranda age 42 & wife Umbelina 38 with children. Here is the link:
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1906-1907/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1906-1907_item1/P105.html
He is #396 and the family follows. Passporte dated 26 June 1907. You can
start there and work backwards if this isn't yours.

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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 8:08 PM,  wrote:

> Thank you for re-posting, Cheri.
>
> And thank you Judi for the information on the immigration of the Cordeiro
> Mirandas.
>
> My great grandfather, Manuel Cordeiro b 1985 Bretanha is one of the sons
> of Agostinho Cordeiro Miranda and Maria Julia Vivieros.
>
> I am still tracking down the rest of his siblings.  Were they named on the
> passenger manifest?
>
> Josh
>
> On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 1:01:41 PM UTC-4, Jude 26 wrote:
>>
>> Typo s/b 1907.
>> Sorry
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Judi Phillips  wrote:
>>
>> Agostinho C. Miranda age 42 his wife Maria J age 37 and their 10 children
>> Arrived in Boston 9 Jul 1007, going to his uncle Antonio Motta, 319 Ferry
>> St., Fall River, MA.  They were from Bretanha, Sao Miguel.
>> Hope this helps
>> Judi
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>> Repost for Josh, trailrunner6288 at gmail.com
>>
>> I was wondering if any of you might be able to tell me more about
>> Agostinho Cordeiro Miranda, Maria Julia Vivieros, and their children who
>> immigrated to Massachusetts.
>>
>> I believe I am related to one of their sons and would love to piece more
>> of the family tree together.
>>
>> Thank you kindly,
>>
>> Josh
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cordeiro Miranda and Viveiros immigrated to Massachusetts

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Josh, you can also check the passporte applications for Ponta Delgada, Sao
Miguel for the exit from the Azores. You have the date 9 July 1907? so you
should be able to find the application before that. Go to Tombo.pt, click
on Azores and when it comes up you will have the Passporte listed by place
and date. I believe the Ponta Delgada is first.

Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 8:08 PM,  wrote:

> Thank you for re-posting, Cheri.
>
> And thank you Judi for the information on the immigration of the Cordeiro
> Mirandas.
>
> My great grandfather, Manuel Cordeiro b 1985 Bretanha is one of the sons
> of Agostinho Cordeiro Miranda and Maria Julia Vivieros.
>
> I am still tracking down the rest of his siblings.  Were they named on the
> passenger manifest?
>
> Josh
>
> On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 1:01:41 PM UTC-4, Jude 26 wrote:
>>
>> Typo s/b 1907.
>> Sorry
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Judi Phillips  wrote:
>>
>> Agostinho C. Miranda age 42 his wife Maria J age 37 and their 10 children
>> Arrived in Boston 9 Jul 1007, going to his uncle Antonio Motta, 319 Ferry
>> St., Fall River, MA.  They were from Bretanha, Sao Miguel.
>> Hope this helps
>> Judi
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>> Repost for Josh, trailrunner6288 at gmail.com
>>
>> I was wondering if any of you might be able to tell me more about
>> Agostinho Cordeiro Miranda, Maria Julia Vivieros, and their children who
>> immigrated to Massachusetts.
>>
>> I believe I am related to one of their sons and would love to piece more
>> of the family tree together.
>>
>> Thank you kindly,
>>
>> Josh
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joao's class

[Carlota Torres]

Hi Liz,

I live in southeastern Massachusetts. I am disappointed that Joao cannot do
a class in the east. I was one of the few that signed up for that class 2
years ago and was disappointed.
Penny Torres

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 5:03 PM, Liz Migliori  wrote:

> He already tried to do one there and 2 years in a row it was unsuccessful.
> Don't know if he's gonna do next year.
>
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> On Mar 15, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Carlota Torres  wrote:
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> and how about the East coast?
> Carlota Torres
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> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Liz Migliori  wrote:
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>> Hi
>> Not this year.  Joao com s once a year.   There will be a big week long
>> Portuguese conference in Salt Lake at the beginning of September
>>
>> Where do you live
>>
>> Liz
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>> On Mar 15, 2016, at 2:19 AM, Aaron Pereira  wrote:
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>> Hi Liz,
>>
>> I missed the announcement for the class; it would've been nice to go.  My
>> great grandpa lived and farmed in Turlock...
>> Was there a mention of another class?  Thanks.
>>
>> On Monday, March 14, 2016 at 10:46:18 PM UTC-7, Lizmig wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> I just wanted to give a shout to to Joao Ventura for again delivering a
>>> great class to many newcomers this past Sunday in Turlock. CA.
>>>
>>> There were about 20 attendees in the pouring rain but we couldn't kick
>>> them out.  They wanted more.   So I guess it'll have to be longer next year.
>>>
>>> Thank you Joao
>>>
>>> Liz
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cordeiro Miranda and Viveiros immigrated to Massachusetts

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Josh, the Boston ship records are on Ancestry.com. Go to your local Family
History Center or maybe even your local public library to access this ship
manifest. It will list all of the ten children, where they came from and as
Judi stated, who they are going to in the USA.

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On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 8:08 PM,  wrote:

> Thank you for re-posting, Cheri.
>
> And thank you Judi for the information on the immigration of the Cordeiro
> Mirandas.
>
> My great grandfather, Manuel Cordeiro b 1985 Bretanha is one of the sons
> of Agostinho Cordeiro Miranda and Maria Julia Vivieros.
>
> I am still tracking down the rest of his siblings.  Were they named on the
> passenger manifest?
>
> Josh
>
> On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 1:01:41 PM UTC-4, Jude 26 wrote:
>>
>> Typo s/b 1907.
>> Sorry
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Judi Phillips  wrote:
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>> Agostinho C. Miranda age 42 his wife Maria J age 37 and their 10 children
>> Arrived in Boston 9 Jul 1007, going to his uncle Antonio Motta, 319 Ferry
>> St., Fall River, MA.  They were from Bretanha, Sao Miguel.
>> Hope this helps
>> Judi
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
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>> Repost for Josh, trailrunner6288 at gmail.com
>>
>> I was wondering if any of you might be able to tell me more about
>> Agostinho Cordeiro Miranda, Maria Julia Vivieros, and their children who
>> immigrated to Massachusetts.
>>
>> I believe I am related to one of their sons and would love to piece more
>> of the family tree together.
>>
>> Thank you kindly,
>>
>> Josh
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cunha records

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Helen, you also have a *great* Genealogy Society in Los Banos. There are
many of the members who are researching the Azores and can help you with
your research. I don't have the exact address but I know that Betty
Bettencourt has the Society's library at her house. Just google Los Banos
Genealogy Society and something should show up about them.

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> I've been searching for any records on Antonio Cunha  Alfred Cunha Albert
> Cunha born 1886. All from Gracioso Azores.  I'd love to have my fathers
> birth or baptismal records.  Alfredo or Alfred Cunha
> Thank you
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Name help please. Ribeiras, Pico

[linda]

Hi Nancy Jean,

The padrinho's parents look like Ancelmo Sylveira and Maria Sylveira to 
me.  

:D

Linda


On Wednesday, March 16, 2016 at 2:28:30 PM UTC-7, nancy jean baptiste wrote:
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> Greetings,
>
>
> I may have located the baptism record for my 3x grandmother in Pico. I'm 
> searching for Maria Silveira, born in Ribeiras around 1782 based on her 
> obit. This one works and I'm wondering if someone could tell me the name of 
> the padrinho's, Manuel Sylveira's,  parentsis it Anselmo? Ancleto? and 
> Maria Sylveira?
>
>
> CCA
>
> Ribeiras, Pico 
>
> Baptisms
>
> 1779-1799
>
> pg. 0022
>
> Bottom right:Maria
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> Thank you for any insight,
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can't read name of child

['Lillian Palko' via Azores Genealogy]

Sorry, top left.  

On Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 5:50:12 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
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> Which record?
> On Mar 17, 2016 3:31 PM,  wrote:
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>> Libania?
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cordeiro Miranda and Viveiros immigrated to Massachusetts

[Judi Phillips]

Josh, all 10 children are listed by name and age.  I am not at home right now 
to send the information.  I found it on Ancestry.
Judi

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> Thank you for re-posting, Cheri.  
> 
> And thank you Judi for the information on the immigration of the Cordeiro 
> Mirandas.  
> 
> My great grandfather, Manuel Cordeiro b 1985 Bretanha is one of the sons of 
> Agostinho Cordeiro Miranda and Maria Julia Vivieros.  
> 
> I am still tracking down the rest of his siblings.  Were they named on the 
> passenger manifest? 
> 
> Josh
> 
>> On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 1:01:41 PM UTC-4, Jude 26 wrote:
>> Typo s/b 1907.
>> Sorry
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Judi Phillips  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Agostinho C. Miranda age 42 his wife Maria J age 37 and their 10 children 
>>> Arrived in Boston 9 Jul 1007, going to his uncle Antonio Motta, 319 Ferry 
>>> St., Fall River, MA.  They were from Bretanha, Sao Miguel.
>>> Hope this helps
>>> Judi
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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 Repost for Josh, trailrunner6288 at gmail.com
 
 I was wondering if any of you might be able to tell me more about 
 Agostinho Cordeiro Miranda, Maria Julia Vivieros, and their children who 
 immigrated to Massachusetts.
 
 I believe I am related to one of their sons and would love to piece more 
 of the family tree together.
 
 Thank you kindly,
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cunha records

[Cheri Mello]

Helen H,
Go to: tombo.pt/en
Then stay in the left column, clicking on Azores, then Graciosa. Then go
through all 4 parishes looking for your ancestor.

If you don't want to do your own research, you could always hire a
researcher.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cordeiro Miranda and Viveiros immigrated to Massachusetts

[Cheri Mello]

Josh, double check your date of 1985 and reclarify.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Pereira obito Faial de Terra

[Júlio]

depois de Ver o obito, fico com algumas duvidas MANUEL PEREIRA DE BRAGA 
Faleceu a 5 Set 
1740 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-O-1730-1781/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-O-1730-1781_item1/P22.html,
 
diz no obito que ele faleceu com 88 aproximadamente. Assim ele nasceu por 
volta de 1652, o casamento que tenho dos Pais dele Manuel Pereira Dutra e 
Ana Ferreira é de 18 Mar 
1669 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1622-1683/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1622-1683_item1/P118.html.

Será que o Manuel Pereira de Braga nasceu 17 anos antes dos Pais casarem???



> Do you happen to have the link to Manuel Pereira da Braga's [33293] 
> baptism record?
>
> Paul G.
>
> On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 4:35:16 PM UTC-4, Júlio wrote:
>>
>> *Manuel Pereira de BRAGA I [33293]*,1 filho de *Manuel Pereira DUTRA*
>>  [8446] 1 e *Ana FERREIRA* [33766],1 nasceu em 1662 em Fenais Da Ajuda, 
>> e faleceu a 5 Set 1740 em Faial Da Terra com 78 anos de idade. 
>>
>> Notas gerais: 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-O-1730-1781/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-O-1730-1781_item1/P22.html
>>
>> Manuel casou com *Maria CORREIA* [31924] 1 [MRIN: 15306], filha de *Manuel 
>> Rebelo SALGUEIRO* [7941] 2 e *Maria CORREIA* [7948],2 a 8 Out 1696 em 
>> Faial Da Terra. Maria nasceu em Faial Da Terra, e faleceu Bef 7 Jun 1707 em 
>> Faial Da Terra. 
>>
>> *Filhos deste casamento:*
>>
>> + 2 Mi. *Manuel Pereira de BRAGA [14683]* 2 nasceu a 19 Set 1706 em 
>> Faial Da Terra. 
>>
>>3 Fii. *Antonia [7952]* 2 nasceu a 11 Jun 1698 em Faial Da Terra. 
>>
>>4 Fiii. *Maria [7953]* 2 nasceu a 4 Dez 1701 em Faial Da Terra. 
>>
>>5 Miv. *Vicente PEREIRA [7955]* 2 nasceu Abt 1702 em Faial Da 
>> Terra. 
>>
>>6 Mv. *Antonio VIEIRA [7957]* 2 nasceu a 17 Nov 1704 em Faial Da 
>> Terra. 
>>
>>7 Fvi. *Luisa [7961]* 2 nasceu a 11 Jul 1700 em Faial Da Terra. 
>>
>> Manuel a seguir casou com *Luisa de MELO* [35689] 1 [MRIN: 15797], filha 
>> de *André Luis de ALMADA* [50986] e *Maria Pereira de SENRA* [50987], a 
>> 5 Jun 1707 em Faial Da Terra. Luisa nasceu em 1682 em Nordeste, e faleceu a 
>> 9 Set 1742 em Faial Da Terra com 60 anos de idade. 
>>
>> *Filhos deste casamento:*
>>
>> + 8 Fi. *Francisca Ricarda de Resendes Vasconcelos MELO [7963]* 2 nasceu 
>> a 9 Mar 1713 em Faial Da Terra. 
>>
>>9 Fii. *Maria Ana Vasconcelos de BRAGA [7965]* 2 nasceu a 20 Mai 
>> 1719 em Faial Da Terra. 
>>
>>10 Miii. *Manuel BRAGA [19842]* 2 nasceu a 19 Set 1708 em Faial 
>> Da Terra. 
>>
>> Notas gerais: 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1700-1725/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1700-1725_item1/P66.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cordeiro Miranda and Viveiros immigrated to Massachusetts

[trailrunner6288]

Thank you for re-posting, Cheri.  

And thank you Judi for the information on the immigration of the Cordeiro 
Mirandas.  

My great grandfather, Manuel Cordeiro b 1985 Bretanha is one of the sons of 
Agostinho Cordeiro Miranda and Maria Julia Vivieros.  

I am still tracking down the rest of his siblings.  Were they named on the 
passenger manifest? 

Josh

On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 1:01:41 PM UTC-4, Jude 26 wrote:
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> Typo s/b 1907.
> Sorry
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Mar 18, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Judi Phillips  
> wrote:
>
> Agostinho C. Miranda age 42 his wife Maria J age 37 and their 10 children 
> Arrived in Boston 9 Jul 1007, going to his uncle Antonio Motta, 319 Ferry 
> St., Fall River, MA.  They were from Bretanha, Sao Miguel.
> Hope this helps
> Judi
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Mar 18, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Cheri Mello  
> wrote:
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> Repost for Josh, trailrunner6288 at gmail.com
>
> I was wondering if any of you might be able to tell me more about 
> Agostinho Cordeiro Miranda, Maria Julia Vivieros, and their children who 
> immigrated to Massachusetts.
>
> I believe I am related to one of their sons and would love to piece more 
> of the family tree together.
>
> Thank you kindly,
>
> Josh
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Pereira obito Faial de Terra

[Júlio]

hello I dont have the link.

I have the link to her father fisrt 
mariage 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1622-1683/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1622-1683_item1/P118.html

and the second mariage

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1683-1706/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1683-1706_item1/P22.html



sexta-feira, 18 de Março de 2016 às 12:08:22 UTC-1, Paul escreveu:
>
> Júlio,
>
> Do you happen to have the link to Manuel Pereira da Braga's [33293] 
> baptism record?
>
> Paul G.
>
> On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 4:35:16 PM UTC-4, Júlio wrote:
>>
>> *Manuel Pereira de BRAGA I [33293]*,1 filho de *Manuel Pereira DUTRA*
>>  [8446] 1 e *Ana FERREIRA* [33766],1 nasceu em 1662 em Fenais Da Ajuda, 
>> e faleceu a 5 Set 1740 em Faial Da Terra com 78 anos de idade. 
>>
>> Notas gerais: 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-O-1730-1781/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-O-1730-1781_item1/P22.html
>>
>> Manuel casou com *Maria CORREIA* [31924] 1 [MRIN: 15306], filha de *Manuel 
>> Rebelo SALGUEIRO* [7941] 2 e *Maria CORREIA* [7948],2 a 8 Out 1696 em 
>> Faial Da Terra. Maria nasceu em Faial Da Terra, e faleceu Bef 7 Jun 1707 em 
>> Faial Da Terra. 
>>
>> *Filhos deste casamento:*
>>
>> + 2 Mi. *Manuel Pereira de BRAGA [14683]* 2 nasceu a 19 Set 1706 em 
>> Faial Da Terra. 
>>
>>3 Fii. *Antonia [7952]* 2 nasceu a 11 Jun 1698 em Faial Da Terra. 
>>
>>4 Fiii. *Maria [7953]* 2 nasceu a 4 Dez 1701 em Faial Da Terra. 
>>
>>5 Miv. *Vicente PEREIRA [7955]* 2 nasceu Abt 1702 em Faial Da 
>> Terra. 
>>
>>6 Mv. *Antonio VIEIRA [7957]* 2 nasceu a 17 Nov 1704 em Faial Da 
>> Terra. 
>>
>>7 Fvi. *Luisa [7961]* 2 nasceu a 11 Jul 1700 em Faial Da Terra. 
>>
>> Manuel a seguir casou com *Luisa de MELO* [35689] 1 [MRIN: 15797], filha 
>> de *André Luis de ALMADA* [50986] e *Maria Pereira de SENRA* [50987], a 
>> 5 Jun 1707 em Faial Da Terra. Luisa nasceu em 1682 em Nordeste, e faleceu a 
>> 9 Set 1742 em Faial Da Terra com 60 anos de idade. 
>>
>> *Filhos deste casamento:*
>>
>> + 8 Fi. *Francisca Ricarda de Resendes Vasconcelos MELO [7963]* 2 nasceu 
>> a 9 Mar 1713 em Faial Da Terra. 
>>
>>9 Fii. *Maria Ana Vasconcelos de BRAGA [7965]* 2 nasceu a 20 Mai 
>> 1719 em Faial Da Terra. 
>>
>>10 Miii. *Manuel BRAGA [19842]* 2 nasceu a 19 Set 1708 em Faial 
>> Da Terra. 
>>
>> Notas gerais: 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1700-1725/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1700-1725_item1/P66.html
>>
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Super thanks!

[Barb Davis]

I just wanted to tell everyone that I'm so thankful for this group and all 
that I've learned. I am enjoying working on azorean genealogy of those I 
love who have gone before.  While I feel out of my comfort zone often, I 
feel somewhat relieved to know that y'all have my back and are ready and 
willing to help at the drop of a hat!

Thanks again!

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Cunha records

['Helen Huckobey' via Azores Genealogy]

I've been searching for any records on Antonio Cunha  Alfred Cunha Albert Cunha 
born 1886. All from Gracioso Azores.  I'd love to have my fathers birth or 
baptismal records.  Alfredo or Alfred Cunha 
Thank you 
Helen Huckobey 
Los Banos ca  

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Researching Alexander Souza, São Jorge, 1883

[Eric Souza]

This is amazing - so glad I found this forum! Just emailed Marie. I'm doing 
lots of my research on Ancestry - link to family tree there 
is http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/18636350/family?usePUBJs=true

Thank you all for your help, cousins!! :)

- Eric


On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 4:40:05 PM UTC-7, Azoreanno wrote:
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> I was just gona mention the same :) 
>
> Marie I couldn't remember who had a connection to this line but I do know 
> lol
>
> Eric by the way I am De Sousa Borba also :)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Mar 18, 2016, at 7:30 PM, Marie  wrote:
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> Eric:
>
> Contact me off the group.  I have information on several generations back 
> from your great grandfather from Topo.   Our families  connect with the De 
> Sousa de Borba line in the late 1700's.
>
> Marie Borba Volbeda
> ma...@volbeda.com
>
> Researching Topo, Sao Jorge
>
> On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 11:10:20 AM UTC-7, Eric Souza wrote:
>
>> I'm researching my genealogy, and trying to find information about my 
>> great-grandfather, Alexander Souza.
>>
>> We believe Alexander Souza was born on São Jorge in early 1883 (possibly 
>> late 1882?). He immigrated to the San Francisco Bay Area (don't know the 
>> year), and lived in Sausalito, CA. He married Mary Catan Mancebo on May 6, 
>> 1907, and they had my grandfather, Edward Souza, in 1909. Alex died on 
>> March 13, 1915, in Sausalito. Mary died shortly after, and my grandfather 
>> never knew any other details about his father. Other documents show he may 
>> also have been known as Alexander Souza Borba or Alexander S Borba ... is 
>> it accurate that the last name would be Paternal-Maternal, so Souza as the 
>> father's paternal surname and Borba as the mother's paternal surname?
>>
>> We don't know the town he is from, or any information about other 
>> relatives. I looked through the parish baptism records here on the 
>> CulturaAcores site 
>> .
>>  
>> Unfortunately I didn't find any records that looked like they could be him.
>>
>> Any advice for how to further research this would be great! I've been in 
>> touch with the Star of the Sea parish in Sausalito, and the Portuguese Hall 
>> in Sausalito, but so far, no luck.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Eric Souza
>> ericchar...@gmail.com
>> Skype: ericcsouza
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MyHeritage

[Seekgene via Azores Genealogy]

Me, too.  It makes it difficult sometimes..  I  wish they didn't do 
that!
 
 
 
In a message dated 3/16/2016 6:47:05 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  mar
garetvice...@gmail.com writes:

Got it, Rosemarie and now it makes sense.  

Thanks.



On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci  <_rcapodc@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:rcap...@gmail.com) >  wrote:


Yes,  Margaret, it just makes me very upset with these different programs, 
they  assume that everyone is just like us in the USA!! We went over this 
with  Personal Ancestry File (PAF) and they finally addressed the issue in  
LegacyFamily Tree. They should accept what we enter and not 'generalize' and  
change things as they see fit but I don't believe that is going to  happen!  
They just went ahead a tacked on the husbands surname as a  given, it is 
not the way I entered it into their  program!



 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Rosemarie 
_rcapodc@gmail.com_ (mailto:rcap...@gmail.com) 
Researching Sao Jorge,  Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine,  Sant' Elia,  Sicily













 
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Margaret Vicente  
<_margaretvicente@gmail.com_ (mailto:margaretvice...@gmail.com) > wrote:

Rosemarie,  


I don't think it should be generalized like that.  No, not all  Azorean 
women assumed their husband's name.  That didnt' happen until  some time after 
the 1900'stime lines should be paid careful attention  to. 


Women did not take on their husbands surname's on until recent  
times...around or after the 1900's.  My own Grandmothers did not take  on my 
Grandfather's surname on both sides. Slowly after that they were  either given 
to 
carry on with their parents name or given an heavenly one.  When the 
Franciscan's friars of the 3rd order tookover the islands they  began to make 
women 
invisible by instilling in them that to be be holy  they had too give 
themselves up and in order to do this they give up their  individuality and 
name 
rights and become Mary and become Mary of the  Angels etc.  Most of the rich 
and 
spunky women were able and smart  enough to carry on with their family 
names for they brought huge dowries  along with them and they alone decided who 
amongst them was to inherit it.  


These programs use the terminology of "nee" born or maiden name which  is 
correct for those who may have adopted their husbands name. 


Something very important to note also was that even in the 1950's and  
after that a woman who wanted to assume their husband's surname after  marriage 
had to request it,  register it and pay for it so to  legalize it.  And, 
this is noted in every record of birth.


Cheers,







 
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 3:42 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci <_rcapodc@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:rcap...@gmail.com) > wrote:




 
 
Hi  all, 


Just  thought I would let the list know about how MyHeritage website lists  
their names in genealogy trees. I was told by a teacher of genealogy to  
enter my tree in all of the sites that have this available: MyHeritage,  
PastTimes, FamilySearch and Ancestry as they all have different search  
parameters and data bases to search (and they all have free access  except 
Ancestry). 
I decided to start putting my tree into MyHeritage.  Now, it's okay except 
that they list the females by their  married name with the maiden name in 
parenthesis.  This is bad for  the Azores because most, as we know, do use a 
married name! This is okay  in the US but not okay with our Portuguese names 
nor my Italian side!  I've emailed them but I don't believe that it will 
make any difference,  just wanted you to know this quirk in case you are 
planning on entering  some of your names into these 'other' genealogy sites! 



 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Rosemarie  
_rcapodc@gmail.com_ (mailto:rcap...@gmail.com) 
Researching Sao  Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine,  Sant' Elia,  Sicily














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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joao's class

[Cheri Mello]

I believe Joao advertised for the East coast and he got no or little
response.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Luzia, daughter of Nicolau de Souza and Maria de Souza in Sao Miguel VFDC

[Margaret Vicente]

You are welcome, Erica!

On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Erica Botelho <
audiosource...@qwestoffice.net> wrote:

> Thank you Margaret!  Nicolau de Souza is my husband’s 8th GGF, with his
> second wife Emmerencianna de Mello.
>
>
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Margaret Vicente
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 19, 2016 8:34 AM
> *To:* azores
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Luzia, daughter of Nicolau de Souza and
> Maria de Souza in Sao Miguel VFDC
>
>
>
> It reads: "com a qual tem contraido esponsais" translated: "with whom he
> married".  It does not say they are naturals from there.
>
>
>
> I have this couple on my tree.  Their daughter Joaquina de Jesus married
> into my family, Jose de Rezendes, brother of my GGF and they are from Sao
> Pedro Ponta Delgada.  They had a daughter Emilia, also born June 19 1871 in
> Sao Pedro.
>
>
>
> Margaret
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Sandra Perez 
> wrote:
>
> Lusia
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 6:57 AM, Erica Botelho <
> audiosource...@qwestoffice.net> wrote:
>
> I am unable to read and translate the phrase after the mother’s name
> “Maria de Souza”, and before “residents of this freguesia…”
>
> Record is right side, top entry
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1730-1739/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1730-1739_item1/P9.html
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Erica Botelho
>
> Vancouver, Washington
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Luzia, daughter of Nicolau de Souza and Maria de Souza in Sao Miguel VFDC

[Margaret Vicente]

Sorry, after checking the dates I realized they are not the same
couple...please ignore the connection noted on previous email.
Never-the-less they may have gotten married elsewhere or one of them is
from a different place.

Cheers,
Margaret

On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Margaret Vicente <
margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It reads: "com a qual tem contraido esponsais" translated: "with whom he
> married".  It does not say they are naturals from there.
>
> I have this couple on my tree.  Their daughter Joaquina de Jesus married
> into my family, Jose de Rezendes, brother of my GGF and they are from Sao
> Pedro Ponta Delgada.  They had a daughter Emilia, also born June 19 1871 in
> Sao Pedro.
>
> Margaret
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Sandra Perez 
> wrote:
>
>> Lusia
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 6:57 AM, Erica Botelho <
>> audiosource...@qwestoffice.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I am unable to read and translate the phrase after the mother’s name
>>> “Maria de Souza”, and before “residents of this freguesia…”
>>>
>>> Record is right side, top entry
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1730-1739/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1730-1739_item1/P9.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Erica Botelho
>>>
>>> Vancouver, Washington
>>>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Luzia, daughter of Nicolau de Souza and Maria de Souza in Sao Miguel VFDC

[Erica Botelho]

Thank you Margaret!  Nicolau de Souza is my husband’s 8th GGF, with his second 
wife Emmerencianna de Mello.

 

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Margaret Vicente
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 8:34 AM
To: azores
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Luzia, daughter of Nicolau de Souza and Maria 
de Souza in Sao Miguel VFDC

 

It reads: "com a qual tem contraido esponsais" translated: "with whom he 
married".  It does not say they are naturals from there.

 

I have this couple on my tree.  Their daughter Joaquina de Jesus married into 
my family, Jose de Rezendes, brother of my GGF and they are from Sao Pedro 
Ponta Delgada.  They had a daughter Emilia, also born June 19 1871 in Sao Pedro.

 

Margaret

 

 

 

 

On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Sandra Perez  wrote:

Lusia

 

On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 6:57 AM, Erica Botelho  
wrote:

I am unable to read and translate the phrase after the mother’s name “Maria de 
Souza”, and before “residents of this freguesia…”

Record is right side, top entry

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1730-1739/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1730-1739_item1/P9.html

 

Thank you,

Erica Botelho

Vancouver, Washington

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Luzia, daughter of Nicolau de Souza and Maria de Souza in Sao Miguel VFDC

[Margaret Vicente]

It reads: "com a qual tem contraido esponsais" translated: "with whom he
married".  It does not say they are naturals from there.

I have this couple on my tree.  Their daughter Joaquina de Jesus married
into my family, Jose de Rezendes, brother of my GGF and they are from Sao
Pedro Ponta Delgada.  They had a daughter Emilia, also born June 19 1871 in
Sao Pedro.

Margaret




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> Lusia
>
> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 6:57 AM, Erica Botelho <
> audiosource...@qwestoffice.net> wrote:
>
>> I am unable to read and translate the phrase after the mother’s name
>> “Maria de Souza”, and before “residents of this freguesia…”
>>
>> Record is right side, top entry
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1730-1739/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1730-1739_item1/P9.html
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>> Thank you,
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>> Erica Botelho
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>> Vancouver, Washington
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Luzia, daughter of Nicolau de Souza and Maria de Souza in Sao Miguel VFDC

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Lusia

On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 6:57 AM, Erica Botelho <
audiosource...@qwestoffice.net> wrote:

> I am unable to read and translate the phrase after the mother’s name
> “Maria de Souza”, and before “residents of this freguesia…”
>
> Record is right side, top entry
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1730-1739/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1730-1739_item1/P9.html
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Can't read name of child

['Lillian Palko' via Azores Genealogy]

Thanks allconcensus seems to be Libania

On Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 2:56:15 PM UTC-7, Lillian Palko wrote:
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> Anyone take a guess at this name? Almost looks like a V word.  Male or 
> female?  Thanks!
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Luzia, daughter of Nicolau de Souza and Maria de Souza in Sao Miguel VFDC

[Erica Botelho]

I am unable to read and translate the phrase after the mother's name "Maria
de Souza", and before "residents of this freguesia."

Record is right side, top entry

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1730
-1739/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1730-1739_item1/P9.html

 

Thank you,

Erica Botelho

Vancouver, Washington

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: MyHeritage

[EResendes]

Just to clarify.  I use MyHeritage and you can change your preference to 
view your tree however you like.  You can choose 4 options:

Married Name (Maiden Name)
Maiden Name (Married Name)
Married Name
Maiden Name

This is  unders Settings then choose Genealogy at the top.



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> Hi all, 
>
> Just thought I would let the list know about how MyHeritage website lists 
> their names in genealogy trees. I was told by a teacher of genealogy to 
> enter my tree in all of the sites that have this available: MyHeritage, 
> PastTimes, FamilySearch and Ancestry as they all have different search 
> parameters and data bases to search (and they all have free access except 
> Ancestry). I decided to start putting my tree into MyHeritage. Now, it's 
> okay *except* that they list the females by their married name with the 
> maiden name in parenthesis.  This is bad for the Azores because most, as we 
> know, do use a married name! This is okay in the US but not okay with our 
> Portuguese names nor my Italian side! I've emailed them but I don't believe 
> that it will make any difference, just wanted you to know this quirk in 
> case you are planning on entering some of your names into these 'other' 
> genealogy sites! 
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Jorge Is, Rita Margarida da Silva born 1865

[Marilyn Thompson]

Thank you everyone. I will look for the marriage of Rita's parents and see
what that might reveal. The Rosa #14 is my correct person. Then I went
looking for Rita's baptism and that is when I found Rita #1 record.

Can someone tell me what is after mulher [his wife (a mulher de ele)]? I do
not remember seeing the "de ele" before

On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 6:28 AM,  wrote:

> Interesting problem.  First it seems too similar to be different Ritas,
> even with the second record having the name Victorina added on in the Santo
> Antao baptism since the Topo baptism has Rita's maternal grandmother using
> Victorina.  Then I come back to that they must not be the same since Silva
> and Silveira are different names.  Either the priest was mistaken on one
> record or the other (so only Silva or Silveira are correct) or there were
> two couples with very similar names in Topo at the time.  It probably
> doesn't contribute to either argument, but there is one word in the Topo
> baptism I can't make out.  It is the small word between Roza Victorina and
> Solteira.
>
> Just to add confusion, the Santo Antao baptism gives maternal grandparents
> and Manuel Joaquim da Silva and MARGARIDA Rosa Victorina.  It then list the
> godparents as the maternal grandfather, Manuel Joaquin da Silva and his
> wife (a mulher de ele) PHILOMENA Rosa Victorina.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage in Maia Sao Miguel 1769

[Herb and Judi Silva]

Good morning, from Richmond VA My ancestors, Antonio Pacheco Sousa de Medeiros married Antonia de Pimentel on 11 Jan 1769 in Maia, Sao Miguel.  His parents were Manuel Pacheco and Barbara Macedo.  Barbara Macedo was from Fenais da Ajuda. Does anyone have these families? Its been a dead end for many years, because the records for Fenais da Ajuda after this period exist in other parishes. thank you in advance and have a great weekendHerb



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can't read name of child

[Ângela Loura]

On the right side it's clearly Antonia.
On the left it looks like Libania, but i'm not sure because the "L" is not
capitalized...

2016-03-18 0:50 GMT+00:00 Cheri Mello :

> Which record?
> On Mar 17, 2016 3:31 PM,  wrote:
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>> Libania?
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Subject Lines

[Eliseu Pacheco da Silva]

Hi Cheri :)

Please send me back one of my emails with the “J”… I would like to try to 
correct it. I have Windows 10, 64.

 

eliseu

 

De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de Cheri 
Mello
Enviada: 16 de março de 2016 14:20
Para: Azores Genealogy 
Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Subject Lines

 

You can't (to my knowledge).

Because we are all on different computers of different ages, it's best to avoid 
bolding, underlining, etc. And colors and graphics. They may not display 
correctly on the other end (Eliseu's graphic always comes out as the letter "J" 
on my end. I don't know what graphic he tries to put there, but it doesn't 
display in Windows 8 or in Gmail, I don't know which). You can still use the 
symbols for smileys, as I believe those come through :)

I use caps if I need something bolded. I use the asterisk if I need something 
italicized. Example: I *think* he said he wanted to go NOW. 

Hope that helps.




Cheri Mello
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Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joao's class

[Carlota Torres]

and how about the East coast?
Carlota Torres

On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Liz Migliori  wrote:

> Hi
> Not this year.  Joao com s once a year.   There will be a big week long
> Portuguese conference in Salt Lake at the beginning of September
>
> Where do you live
>
> Liz
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Mar 15, 2016, at 2:19 AM, Aaron Pereira  wrote:
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> Hi Liz,
>
> I missed the announcement for the class; it would've been nice to go.  My
> great grandpa lived and farmed in Turlock...
> Was there a mention of another class?  Thanks.
>
> On Monday, March 14, 2016 at 10:46:18 PM UTC-7, Lizmig wrote:
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>> Hi everyone,
>> I just wanted to give a shout to to Joao Ventura for again delivering a
>> great class to many newcomers this past Sunday in Turlock. CA.
>>
>> There were about 20 attendees in the pouring rain but we couldn't kick
>> them out.  They wanted more.   So I guess it'll have to be longer next year.
>>
>> Thank you Joao
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Pereira obito Faial de Terra

[Júlio]

Hello Emanuel, Yes it is, André Luis is listed in Rodrigo Rodrigues, they 
lived in Nordeste, but I could n find their Mariage bef 1640 in Nordeste, 
They are the begin of the Line FERREIRA CABIDO, I thing that the possible 
maried in Fenais da Ajuda, because I find some Names LUIS DE ALMADA in 
Fenais da Ajuda

*1. Francisco LUIS [5561]* .1  

Notas gerais: Ferreiro

Francisco casou com *Isabel MOREIRA* [5727] 1 
 [MRIN: 3123]. 

*Filhos deste casamento:*

   2 Fi. *Isabel MOREIRA [5253]* .1 
 

Isabel casou com *João Rodrigues FREIRE* [21224] 1 
 [MRIN: 2960], filho de *António 
Leitão Vaz DUTRA* [12966] 2  e 
*Victória 
da COSTA* [12954],2  a 13 Mai 
1686 em Fenais Da Ajuda. João nasceu a 19 Mar 1668 em Fenais Da Ajuda. João 
também usou o nome José Rodrigues do NORTE.

+ 3 Mii. *Manuel Luis de ALMADA [43441] 
* faleceu a 27 Fev 1719 em 
Fenais Da Ajuda. 

+ 4 Fiii. *Joana MOREIRA [33816] 
* .2 
 

   5 Miv. *José MOREIRA [40200]* . 

José casou com *Maria VIEIRA* [40201] [MRIN: 18732], filha de *Domingos Vaz 
VIEIRA* [30358] 1  e *Maria da 
COSTA* [30360],1  a 9 Jul 1696 em 
Fenais Da Ajuda.

Notas sobre o casamento: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1683-1706/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1683-1706_item1/P26.html
 

Segunda geração (Filhos)
--

*3. Manuel Luis de ALMADA [43441] 
* (*Francisco1*) faleceu a 
27 Fev 1719 em Fenais Da Ajuda. 

Notas gerais: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-O-1697-1729/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-O-1697-1729_item1/P51.html

Manuel casou com *Maria Moniz VIEIRA* [39799] [MRIN: 18525], filha de *Pedro 
Moniz VIEIRA* [40212] 1  e *Guiomar 
de SOUSA* [40211], em 1689 em Fenais Da Ajuda. 

*Filho/a deste casamento:*

   6 Fi. *Maria Vieira MOURATO [9744]* .1 
 

Maria casou com *João Rodrigues DUTRA* [9742] 1 
 [MRIN: 5367], filho de *Manuel 
Rodrigues SIMÕES* [7171] 2  e *Maria 
DUTRA* [7172],2  a 21 Nov 1659 em 
Rabo De Peixe.

Manuel a seguir casou com *Barbara FURTADO* [40301] [MRIN: 18782]. Barbara 
faleceu a 10 Jun 1723 em Fenais Da Ajuda. 

*Filho/a deste casamento:*

   7 Fi. *Fulana FURTADO [40391]* . 

Fulana casou com *António FURTADO* [40392] [MRIN: 18831].

*4. Joana MOREIRA [33816] * 2 
 (*Francisco1*). 

Notas gerais: Registos não importados para INDI (indivíduo) Gramps ID I5607:

Etiqueta reconhecida, mas não suportada Line 92874: 2 _TMPLT Linha 
subordinada ignorada Line 92875: 3 FIELD Linha subordinada ignorada Line 
92876: 4 NAME Page

Joana casou com *Manuel Correia de SOUSA Pai* [33799] 2 
 [MRIN: 15984], filho de *Francisco 
Gonçalves MACHADO* [6322] 1  e *Maria 
Correia de SOUSA* [6323],1  a 26 
Jun 1688 em Fenais Da Ajuda. Manuel nasceu em 1659 em Maia, e faleceu a 19 
Set 1719 em Fenais Da Ajuda com 60 anos de idade. 

*Filhos deste casamento:*

+ 8 Mi. *Manuel Correia de SOUSA Capitão [33782] 
* .2 
 

   9 Fii. *Engrácia MOREIRA [6330]* .1 
 




quarta-feira, 16 de Março de 2016 às 13:54:46 UTC-1, EResendes escreveu:
>
> Julio do you have more information on Andre Luis de Almada listed below? 
>  I have that his father was Andre Luis and mother was Maria Faleira.
>
> On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 4:35:16 PM UTC-4, Júlio wrote:
>>
>> *Manuel Pereira de BRAGA I [33293]*,1 filho de *Manuel Pereira DUTRA*
>>  [8446] 1 e *Ana FERREIRA* [33766],1 nasceu em 1662 em Fenais Da Ajuda, 
>> e faleceu a 5 Set 1740 em Faial Da Terra com 78 anos de idade. 
>>
>> Notas gerais: 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-O-1730-1781/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-O-1730-1781_item1/P22.html
>>
>> Manuel casou com *Maria CORREIA* [31924] 1 [MRIN: 15306], filha de *Manuel 
>> Rebelo SALGUEIRO* [7941] 2 e *Maria CORREIA* [7948],2 a 8 Out 1696 em 
>> Faial Da Terra. Maria nasceu em Faial Da Terra, e faleceu Bef 7 Jun 1707 em 
>> Faial Da Terra. 
>>
>> *Filhos deste casamento:*
>>
>> + 2 Mi. *Manuel Pereira de BRAGA [14683]* 2 nasceu a 19 Set 1706 em 
>> Faial Da Terra. 
>>
>>3 Fii. *Antonia [7952]* 2 nasceu a 11 Jun 1698 em Faial Da Terra. 
>>
>>4 Fiii. *Maria [7953]* 2 nasceu a 4 Dez 1701 em Faial Da Terra. 
>>
>>5 Miv. *Vicente PEREIRA [7955]* 2 nasceu Abt 1702 em Faial Da 
>> Terra. 
>>
>>6 Mv. *Antonio VIEIRA [7957]* 2 nasceu a 17 Nov 1704 em Faial Da 
>> Terra. 
>>
>>7 Fvi. *Luisa [7961]* 2 nasceu a 11 Jul 1700 em Faial Da Terra. 
>>
>> Manuel a seguir casou com *Luisa de MELO* [35689] 1 [MRIN: 15797], filha 
>> de *André Luis de ALMADA* [50986] e *Maria Pereira de SENRA* [50987], a 
>> 5 Jun 1707 em Faial Da Terra. Luisa nasceu em 1682 em Nordeste, e faleceu a 
>> 9 Set 1742 em Faial Da Terra com 60 anos de idade. 
>>
>> *Filhos deste casamento:*
>>
>> + 8 Fi. *Francisca Ricarda de Resendes Vasconcelos MELO [7963]* 2 nasceu 
>> a 9 Mar 1713 em Faial Da Terra. 
>>
>>9 Fii. *Maria Ana Vasconcelos de BRAGA [7965]* 2 nasceu a 20 Mai 
>> 1719 em Faial Da Terra. 
>>
>>

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MyHeritage

[Margaret Vicente]

Rosemarie,

I don't think it should be generalized like that.  No, not all Azorean
women assumed their husband's name.  That didnt' happen until some time
after the 1900'stime lines should be paid careful attention to.

Women did not take on their husbands surname's on until recent
times...around or after the 1900's.  My own Grandmothers did not take on my
Grandfather's surname on both sides. Slowly after that they were either
given to carry on with their parents name or given an heavenly one. When
the Franciscan's friars of the 3rd order tookover the islands they began to
make women invisible by instilling in them that to be be holy they had too
give themselves up and in order to do this they give up their individuality
and name rights and become Mary and become Mary of the Angels etc.  Most of
the rich and spunky women were able and smart enough to carry on with their
family names for they brought huge dowries along with them and they alone
decided who amongst them was to inherit it.

These programs use the terminology of "nee" born or maiden name which is
correct for those who may have adopted their husbands name.

Something very important to note also was that even in the 1950's and after
that a woman who wanted to assume their husband's surname after marriage
had to request it,  register it and pay for it so to legalize it.  And,
this is noted in every record of birth.

Cheers,



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> Hi all,
>
> Just thought I would let the list know about how MyHeritage website lists
> their names in genealogy trees. I was told by a teacher of genealogy to
> enter my tree in all of the sites that have this available: MyHeritage,
> PastTimes, FamilySearch and Ancestry as they all have different search
> parameters and data bases to search (and they all have free access except
> Ancestry). I decided to start putting my tree into MyHeritage. Now, it's
> okay *except* that they list the females by their married name with the
> maiden name in parenthesis.  This is bad for the Azores because most, as we
> know, do use a married name! This is okay in the US but not okay with our
> Portuguese names nor my Italian side! I've emailed them but I don't believe
> that it will make any difference, just wanted you to know this quirk in
> case you are planning on entering some of your names into these 'other'
> genealogy sites!
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
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> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joao's class

[Liz Migliori]

He already tried to do one there and 2 years in a row it was unsuccessful. 
Don't know if he's gonna do next year.  

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> On Mar 15, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Carlota Torres  wrote:
> 
> and how about the East coast? 
> Carlota Torres
> 
>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Liz Migliori  wrote:
>> Hi 
>> Not this year.  Joao com s once a year.   There will be a big week long 
>> Portuguese conference in Salt Lake at the beginning of September 
>> 
>> Where do you live 
>> 
>> Liz 
>> 
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>>> On Mar 15, 2016, at 2:19 AM, Aaron Pereira  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Liz,
>>> 
>>> I missed the announcement for the class; it would've been nice to go.  My 
>>> great grandpa lived and farmed in Turlock...
>>> Was there a mention of another class?  Thanks.
>>> 
 On Monday, March 14, 2016 at 10:46:18 PM UTC-7, Lizmig wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 I just wanted to give a shout to to Joao Ventura for again delivering a 
 great class to many newcomers this past Sunday in Turlock. CA.
 
 There were about 20 attendees in the pouring rain but we couldn't kick 
 them out.  They wanted more.   So I guess it'll have to be longer next 
 year.
 
 Thank you Joao
 
 Liz
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can't read name of child

[Cheri Mello]

Which record?
On Mar 17, 2016 3:31 PM,  wrote:

> Libania?
>
> Bill Seidler
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can't read name of child

[Liz Migliori]

Victoria??

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> On Mar 17, 2016, at 2:56 PM, 'Lillian Palko' via Azores Genealogy 
>  wrote:
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> Anyone take a guess at this name? Almost looks like a V word.  Male or 
> female?  Thanks!
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-FAJADEBAIXO-B-1827-1835/SMG-PD-FAJADEBAIXO-B-1827-1835_item1/P382.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching Alexander Souza, São Jorge, 1883

['Marcio' via Azores Genealogy]

Eric

Based on my experience I would say The combination de Sousa Borba is more 
common in Calheta followed by Topo.
Since you researched Calheta I went to Topo records and found one Alexandre, 
born in August 1882. He was son of Manuel Jose da Cunha, shoemaker and Rosa 
Delfina, seamstress. Paternal grandson of Antonia de Sao Jose and maternal 
grandson of Antonio de Sousa de Borba and Ana Delfina. The godfather was a 
Alexandre de Sousa de Borba (most likely a maternal oncle/cousin)

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> I'm researching my genealogy, and trying to find information about my 
> great-grandfather, Alexander Souza.
> 
> We believe Alexander Souza was born on São Jorge in early 1883 (possibly late 
> 1882?). He immigrated to the San Francisco Bay Area (don't know the year), 
> and lived in Sausalito, CA. He married Mary Catan Mancebo on May 6, 1907, and 
> they had my grandfather, Edward Souza, in 1909. Alex died on March 13, 1915, 
> in Sausalito. Mary died shortly after, and my grandfather never knew any 
> other details about his father. Other documents show he may also have been 
> known as Alexander Souza Borba or Alexander S Borba ... is it accurate that 
> the last name would be Paternal-Maternal, so Souza as the father's paternal 
> surname and Borba as the mother's paternal surname?
> 
> We don't know the town he is from, or any information about other relatives. 
> I looked through the parish baptism records here on the CulturaAcores site. 
> Unfortunately I didn't find any records that looked like they could be him.
> 
> Any advice for how to further research this would be great! I've been in 
> touch with the Star of the Sea parish in Sausalito, and the Portuguese Hall 
> in Sausalito, but so far, no luck.
> 
> Thanks,
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cordeiro Miranda and Viveiros immigrated to Massachusetts

[Judi Phillips]

Agostinho C. Miranda age 42 his wife Maria J age 37 and their 10 children 
Arrived in Boston 9 Jul 1007, going to his uncle Antonio Motta, 319 Ferry St., 
Fall River, MA.  They were from Bretanha, Sao Miguel.
Hope this helps
Judi

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> Repost for Josh, trailrunner6288 at gmail.com
> 
> I was wondering if any of you might be able to tell me more about Agostinho 
> Cordeiro Miranda, Maria Julia Vivieros, and their children who immigrated to 
> Massachusetts.
> 
> I believe I am related to one of their sons and would love to piece more of 
> the family tree together.
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> Thank you kindly,
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Can't read name of child

['Lillian Palko' via Azores Genealogy]

Anyone take a guess at this name? Almost looks like a V word.  Male or 
female?  Thanks!

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-FAJADEBAIXO-B-1827-1835/SMG-PD-FAJADEBAIXO-B-1827-1835_item1/P382.html

Thanks for your help,

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MyHeritage

[Margaret Vicente]

Got it, Rosemarie and now it makes sense.

Thanks.

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> Yes, Margaret, it just makes me very upset with these different programs,
> they assume that everyone is just like us in the USA!! We went over this
> with Personal Ancestry File (PAF) and they finally addressed the issue in
> LegacyFamily Tree. They should accept what we enter and not 'generalize'
> and change things as they see fit but I don't believe that is going to
> happen!  They just went ahead a tacked on the husbands surname as a given,
> it is *not* the way I entered it into their program!
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Margaret Vicente <
> margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Rosemarie,
>>
>> I don't think it should be generalized like that.  No, not all Azorean
>> women assumed their husband's name.  That didnt' happen until some time
>> after the 1900'stime lines should be paid careful attention to.
>>
>> Women did not take on their husbands surname's on until recent
>> times...around or after the 1900's.  My own Grandmothers did not take on my
>> Grandfather's surname on both sides. Slowly after that they were either
>> given to carry on with their parents name or given an heavenly one. When
>> the Franciscan's friars of the 3rd order tookover the islands they began to
>> make women invisible by instilling in them that to be be holy they had too
>> give themselves up and in order to do this they give up their individuality
>> and name rights and become Mary and become Mary of the Angels etc.  Most of
>> the rich and spunky women were able and smart enough to carry on with their
>> family names for they brought huge dowries along with them and they alone
>> decided who amongst them was to inherit it.
>>
>> These programs use the terminology of "nee" born or maiden name which is
>> correct for those who may have adopted their husbands name.
>>
>> Something very important to note also was that even in the 1950's and
>> after that a woman who wanted to assume their husband's surname after
>> marriage had to request it,  register it and pay for it so to legalize it.
>> And, this is noted in every record of birth.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 3:42 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Just thought I would let the list know about how MyHeritage website
>>> lists their names in genealogy trees. I was told by a teacher of genealogy
>>> to enter my tree in all of the sites that have this available: MyHeritage,
>>> PastTimes, FamilySearch and Ancestry as they all have different search
>>> parameters and data bases to search (and they all have free access except
>>> Ancestry). I decided to start putting my tree into MyHeritage. Now, it's
>>> okay *except* that they list the females by their married name with the
>>> maiden name in parenthesis.  This is bad for the Azores because most, as we
>>> know, do use a married name! This is okay in the US but not okay with our
>>> Portuguese names nor my Italian side! I've emailed them but I don't believe
>>> that it will make any difference, just wanted you to know this quirk in
>>> case you are planning on entering some of your names into these 'other'
>>> genealogy sites!
>>>
>>> Rosemarie
>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching Alexander Souza, São Jorge, 1883

[Eric Souza]

Thank you - I think this is him! I'm so glad I connected with you here!! 
Obrigado!


On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 4:14:46 PM UTC-7, Azoreanno wrote:
>
> Here is the link to the page. Beginning of this birth is in previous page 
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1880-1889/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1880-1889_item1/P92.html
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Mar 18, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Eric Souza  > wrote:
>
> WOW! This is amazing information! Can you send me the link where you found 
> this? This is the first real-looking lead I've had in a long time!! Thank 
> you!
>
> - Eric
>
> On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 12:00:08 PM UTC-7, Azoreanno wrote:
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> Based on my experience I would say The combination de Sousa Borba is more 
>> common in Calheta followed by Topo.
>> Since you researched Calheta I went to Topo records and found one 
>> Alexandre, born in August 1882. He was son of Manuel Jose da Cunha, 
>> shoemaker and Rosa Delfina, seamstress. Paternal grandson of Antonia de Sao 
>> Jose and maternal grandson of Antonio de Sousa de Borba and Ana Delfina. 
>> The godfather was a Alexandre de Sousa de Borba (most likely a maternal 
>> oncle/cousin)
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Eric Souza  wrote:
>>
>> I'm researching my genealogy, and trying to find information about my 
>> great-grandfather, Alexander Souza.
>>
>> We believe Alexander Souza was born on São Jorge in early 1883 (possibly 
>> late 1882?). He immigrated to the San Francisco Bay Area (don't know the 
>> year), and lived in Sausalito, CA. He married Mary Catan Mancebo on May 6, 
>> 1907, and they had my grandfather, Edward Souza, in 1909. Alex died on 
>> March 13, 1915, in Sausalito. Mary died shortly after, and my grandfather 
>> never knew any other details about his father. Other documents show he may 
>> also have been known as Alexander Souza Borba or Alexander S Borba ... is 
>> it accurate that the last name would be Paternal-Maternal, so Souza as the 
>> father's paternal surname and Borba as the mother's paternal surname?
>>
>> We don't know the town he is from, or any information about other 
>> relatives. I looked through the parish baptism records here on the 
>> CulturaAcores site 
>> .
>>  
>> Unfortunately I didn't find any records that looked like they could be him.
>>
>> Any advice for how to further research this would be great! I've been in 
>> touch with the Star of the Sea parish in Sausalito, and the Portuguese Hall 
>> in Sausalito, but so far, no luck.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Eric Souza
>> ericchar...@gmail.com
>> Skype: ericcsouza
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Understanding Family Name Usage

[Cheri Mello]

Kim W,

It's the same name.

The name Antonio, when pronounced, can have that final "o" sound dropped,
so it will sound more like "Antone."  The name Ignacio, when pronounced,
can also have that final "o" sound dropped, so it will sound more like
"Igg-nauce" (nauce rhymes with sauce). Somehow, that winds up as Enos. So
depending on where your ancestor lived, whom he was talking to, what his
accent was like, how familiar the other person was with the Portuguese
accent, and who was filling out the form, you'll get different spellings
for the same name. You get to look for ALL those names. Just think of it as
making you a better researcher.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching Alexander Souza, São Jorge, 1883

[Cheri Mello]

Repost for ericcharles.souza at gmail.com:

I did get in touch with the Portuguese organization - they have a historian
who is very helpful, but apparently many records were lost in the 1950s
when the hall moved across town.

Cheri Mello
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On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Eric Souza 
wrote:

> Thank you - I think this is him! I'm so glad I connected with you here!!
> Obrigado!
>
>
> On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 4:14:46 PM UTC-7, Azoreanno wrote:
>>
>> Here is the link to the page. Beginning of this birth is in previous page
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1880-1889/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1880-1889_item1/P92.html
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Eric Souza  wrote:
>>
>> WOW! This is amazing information! Can you send me the link where you
>> found this? This is the first real-looking lead I've had in a long time!!
>> Thank you!
>>
>> - Eric
>>
>> On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 12:00:08 PM UTC-7, Azoreanno wrote:
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> Based on my experience I would say The combination de Sousa Borba is
>>> more common in Calheta followed by Topo.
>>> Since you researched Calheta I went to Topo records and found one
>>> Alexandre, born in August 1882. He was son of Manuel Jose da Cunha,
>>> shoemaker and Rosa Delfina, seamstress. Paternal grandson of Antonia de Sao
>>> Jose and maternal grandson of Antonio de Sousa de Borba and Ana Delfina.
>>> The godfather was a Alexandre de Sousa de Borba (most likely a maternal
>>> oncle/cousin)
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Eric Souza  wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm researching my genealogy, and trying to find information about my
>>> great-grandfather, Alexander Souza.
>>>
>>> We believe Alexander Souza was born on São Jorge in early 1883 (possibly
>>> late 1882?). He immigrated to the San Francisco Bay Area (don't know the
>>> year), and lived in Sausalito, CA. He married Mary Catan Mancebo on May 6,
>>> 1907, and they had my grandfather, Edward Souza, in 1909. Alex died on
>>> March 13, 1915, in Sausalito. Mary died shortly after, and my grandfather
>>> never knew any other details about his father. Other documents show he may
>>> also have been known as Alexander Souza Borba or Alexander S Borba ... is
>>> it accurate that the last name would be Paternal-Maternal, so Souza as the
>>> father's paternal surname and Borba as the mother's paternal surname?
>>>
>>> We don't know the town he is from, or any information about other
>>> relatives. I looked through the parish baptism records here on the
>>> CulturaAcores site
>>> .
>>> Unfortunately I didn't find any records that looked like they could be him.
>>>
>>> Any advice for how to further research this would be great! I've been in
>>> touch with the Star of the Sea parish in Sausalito, and the Portuguese Hall
>>> in Sausalito, but so far, no luck.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Eric Souza
>>> ericchar...@gmail.com
>>> Skype: ericcsouza
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge Is, Rita Margarida da Silva born 1865

[Joe Matias]

I see paternal- Maria do Nascimento and maternal Rosa Victorina.
Unsure if there is a connection.

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Marilyn Thompson 
wrote:

>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1860-1869_item1/P125.html
>
> # 1 top right of page. I am looking for someone to verify the information
> I think I am reading.
>
> Rita legitimate daughter of Manuel Joaquim da Silveira and Margarida Roza
> paternal - Maria de _ single
> maternial - Roza Victorina __  __
>
> I am thinking the above Rita is the mother of Rosa #14 on the following
> link. Would someone please look at these records and give me your opinion.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-SANTOANTAO-B-1890-1899/SJR-CH-SANTOANTAO-B-1890-1899_item1/P108.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Subject Lines

[Ângela Loura]

The "J" corresponds to a smile icon, i usually see it when i copy a
conversation with the icon (and not the : plus ) ) and paste it in skype,
for example.

2016-03-16 15:55 GMT+00:00 Eliseu Pacheco da Silva :

> Hi Cheri J
>
> Please send me back one of my emails with the “J”… I would like to try to
> correct it. I have Windows 10, 64.
>
>
>
> eliseu
>
>
>
> *De:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *Em nome
> de *Cheri Mello
> *Enviada:* 16 de março de 2016 14:20
> *Para:* Azores Genealogy 
> *Assunto:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Subject Lines
>
>
>
> You can't (to my knowledge).
>
> Because we are all on different computers of different ages, it's best to
> avoid bolding, underlining, etc. And colors and graphics. They may not
> display correctly on the other end (Eliseu's graphic always comes out as
> the letter "J" on my end. I don't know what graphic he tries to put there,
> but it doesn't display in Windows 8 or in Gmail, I don't know which). You
> can still use the symbols for smileys, as I believe those come through :)
>
> I use caps if I need something bolded. I use the asterisk if I need
> something italicized. Example: I *think* he said he wanted to go NOW.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can't read name of child

[Sandra Perez]

I see Maria.  You can see "aria" after the first letter.

On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 2:56 PM, 'Lillian Palko' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Anyone take a guess at this name? Almost looks like a V word.  Male or
> female?  Thanks!
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-FAJADEBAIXO-B-1827-1835/SMG-PD-FAJADEBAIXO-B-1827-1835_item1/P382.html
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> Thanks for your help,
>
> Lillian
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Subject Lines

[Liz Migliori]

Excellent 
Always thought subject lines were supposed to be short and sweet. Lol

New approach 
Thx

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 15, 2016, at 1:47 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci  wrote:
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> Hi Liz, yours is not too bad but some are so small and us 'oldies' have 
> trouble with that!! I think you can go under your settings in your email 
> program to change the font size, not sure, that's the way it shows in gmail. 
> As to putting more info in the subject line, that's for your own help in 
> someone finding your names in the future. Just think of someone two or three 
> years down-the-road looking for your ancestor names and not finding them 
> because the names were not listed, not good for you finding cousins!! LOL 
> 
> Rosemarie
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> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
> 
>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Liz Migliori  wrote:
>> Thank you for that. Never thought of it.  Another habit I need to get into
>> 
>> Not sure what you mean by enlarging emails.   Are mine readable or should I 
>> enlarge them?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 15, 2016, at 9:40 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All, 
>>> 
>>> Just a note to say that you need to state in the subject line of your email 
>>> some basic information. These emails go in to an Archive and if someone is 
>>> checking the Archive emails for their people they are not going to find 
>>> your email if you just put "help" in the subject line! You need to put a 
>>> name or names, place, or something to identify what you are looking for. If 
>>> you are looking for a marriage of Jose Souza and Mary Lemos on Sao Jorge in 
>>> 1760 then state that on the "Subject" line so that someone looking for 
>>> those same people at a later date will have the email come up! Many of us 
>>> get many emails in a day and I don't always have time to look at an email 
>>> that doesn't give me any info in the Suject Line, I scan for names and/or 
>>> places that I have ancestors. I don't have anyone in Sao Miguel or Santa 
>>> Maria (that I know of!) so I usually will just delete those. If I see a 
>>> name and place where I have ancestors, I will takek the time to look. 
>>> Thank you also to the people who are enlarging their emails so that those 
>>> of us with 'tired eyes' don't have to squint to read !
>>> Rosemarie
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>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Researching Alexander Souza, São Jorge, 1883

[Marie]

Eric:

Contact me off the group.  I have information on several generations back 
from your great grandfather from Topo.   Our families  connect with the De 
Sousa de Borba line in the late 1700's.

Marie Borba Volbeda
ma...@volbeda.com

Researching Topo, Sao Jorge

On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 11:10:20 AM UTC-7, Eric Souza wrote:

> I'm researching my genealogy, and trying to find information about my 
> great-grandfather, Alexander Souza.
>
> We believe Alexander Souza was born on São Jorge in early 1883 (possibly 
> late 1882?). He immigrated to the San Francisco Bay Area (don't know the 
> year), and lived in Sausalito, CA. He married Mary Catan Mancebo on May 6, 
> 1907, and they had my grandfather, Edward Souza, in 1909. Alex died on 
> March 13, 1915, in Sausalito. Mary died shortly after, and my grandfather 
> never knew any other details about his father. Other documents show he may 
> also have been known as Alexander Souza Borba or Alexander S Borba ... is 
> it accurate that the last name would be Paternal-Maternal, so Souza as the 
> father's paternal surname and Borba as the mother's paternal surname?
>
> We don't know the town he is from, or any information about other 
> relatives. I looked through the parish baptism records here on the 
> CulturaAcores site 
> .
>  
> Unfortunately I didn't find any records that looked like they could be him.
>
> Any advice for how to further research this would be great! I've been in 
> touch with the Star of the Sea parish in Sausalito, and the Portuguese Hall 
> in Sausalito, but so far, no luck.
>
> Thanks,
> Eric Souza
> ericchar...@gmail.com 
> Skype: ericcsouza
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Name help please. Ribeiras, Pico

[nancy jean baptiste]

Greetings,


I may have located the baptism record for my 3x grandmother in Pico. I'm 
searching for Maria Silveira, born in Ribeiras around 1782 based on her obit. 
This one works and I'm wondering if someone could tell me the name of the 
padrinho's, Manuel Sylveira's,  parentsis it Anselmo? Ancleto? and Maria 
Sylveira?


CCA

Ribeiras, Pico

Baptisms

1779-1799

pg. 0022

Bottom right:Maria


Thank you for any insight,

Nancy Jean

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Understanding Family Name Usage

[Kim White]

Hi Folks,
In the Will & Probate records of my 2x Great Grandfather his name is given 
with 2 other known names.  The names are listed as such: Antonio Ignacio 
Pereira a.k.a. Antone Enos Pereira a.k.a. Ignacio Pereira.  Are there 
naming practices or usages that may help explain why a person would have 
used 3 different iterations of a name?  Understanding this a bit more may 
help me when looking for other records.  Thank you.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge baptism records for Rita and Rosa

[Marilyn Thompson]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1860-1869_item1/P125.html

Rita record #1 I am trying to decide if she is the mother of Rosa #14 in
the following link

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-SANTOANTAO-B-1890-1899/SJR-CH-SANTOANTAO-B-1890-1899_item1/P108.html

The only thing I can go by are the parents of Rita in both records

father in #1 - Manuel Joaquim da Silveria and Margarida Rosa
grandparents in #14 - Manuel Joaquim da Silva and Margarida Rosa Victorina

I can see the variation in Manuel surname and the addition of Victorina to
Margarida's name.

I need someone else to give me their opinion. Is Rita the same person in
both records?

Thank you

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