Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] visiting the Azores in May
Great tip, Steve. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 9:42 AM, Steve Peters wrote: Leonor is right about the back roads! On São Miguel especially there is a smaller old road that parallels the main highway that rings the island. It is closer to the coast and goes through many small towns. A much nicer route if you have the time to go slowly. On Friday, March 15, 2019 at 4:41:24 PM UTC-7, Leonor Bertoni wrote: The back roads are still my favourite way to travel, we often stay off the highway, in this way we always find small treasures, whether a restaurant, a coffee shop or a beach, there’s always something! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Tracking My Grandparents lost without a trace
Mario, It might help to think of this more like a treasure hunt - or a mystery to investigate. Even on the U.S. side I'm finding digging up information to be a challenge - my grandfather came over via the passports as Antonio De Mello Barbosa, but got listed in the first U.S. Census here with his parents as Silva (after his mother's maiden name) which was mislabeled on Ancestry as Liba since they couldn't read the name properly - he got married as Silva and later on was listed as both De Mello and Mello on various Massachusetts documents. What helped me get back further than that was finding his naturalization documentation which listed the village (or freguesia) and led me to this group here. I found his naturalization papers on Ancestry, which listed his home on Sao Miguel. The church documents do take some time to go through, but the more you do, the better you get at reading them, recognizing handwriting and appreciating when there was a priest who wrote with a clearer hand that makes it easier to read as you go along. It does improve with time as you work your way through the documentation. But it does take a bit of detective work to find out information to lead you in the right direction. Don't give up looking! Elaine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Simiao Joaquim de AGUIAR 1870s Brazil from Azores
Surnames: AGUIAR, de JESUS, MENDONCA Joao Joaquim de MENDONCA married Anna de JESUS de AGUIAR. The event took place on 19 Dec 1898. The record is in Brazil marriages: São Bento, Araraquara, São Paulo, Brazil https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XN21-QZW The bride’s father was Simiao Joaquim de AGUIAR and her mother was Anna de JESUS, with no other surname (Simiao is a rare first name). I have been tracing Simiao de AGUIAR back and cannot find a Brazil birth or passport record with his name. I have had limited possibilities of AGUIAR found in Santana, Madeira and in Sao Miguel. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Debbie Shepherd Mendonca jessdebmendo...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Assistance - Graciosa - Pedro do Conde Sodre
I think Pedro's wife is D. Barbara de Mello. Specifically what I see is ...e D. Agada--DIGO--D. Barbara de Mello. (He initially wrote Agada, then corrected himself to Barbara) You translated the date of birth: 10 Sep 1728. It later says he was baptized in this parish of NS da Guadalupe on day 18 of the same month and year. Padrinhos: Manuel Fernandes Balieiro, married with D. Antonia ? de Jesus, parishioners of Matriz da Santa Cruz; and Agada Novaes?, daughter of Alferes Antonio ? Picanço?, resident of parish of Apostolo São Mattheus. Witnesses were the same Alfares Antonio Pereira Picanço (I can read it better her) and Manuel de Conde, brother of the father of this criatura??(I'm sure this a word that references the baby, but I am reluctant to translate it as creature) Bill Seidler On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 1:37:21 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Debbie, > > The records are the spelling rules before 1911. The translators use the > modern spellings. So that is why you see the discrepancies. > > The number one: um, hum, and hu (with the tilde over the u) is one that > confuses the translator. Many others exist too. > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 1:33 PM JesseAndDeborah Mendonca < > jessdeb...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> Hi, >> I find it helpful to just type your partial translation into google >> translate: >> >> Manoel son of Pedro do Conde Sodre and of [Agada Mejeo?] Of Dona Barbara >> de Mello Parochiano of [?] Living on the Victory Road on the 10th of >> September, one thousand seven hundred and twenty eight, and [foy?] >> Parochial of Our Lady of Guadalupe on the [...] month and year in ... >> >> Simple, but helpful most of the time. It has me looking harder for the >> spelling of what you are unsure of because it doesn’t recognize those >> either. >> >> Debbie >> >> >> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 12:15 PM 'Bill Boyd' via Azores Genealogy < >> azo...@googlegroups.com > wrote: >> >>> Hello! >>> >>> I have a partial translation for this baptism (bottom right) >>> >> >> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-B-1717-1730/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-B-1717-1730_item1/P154.html >>> >>> Partial translation: >>> Manoel filho de Pedro do Conde Sodre e de [Agada Mejeo?] de Dona Barbara >>> de Mello Parochiano de [?] moradora no Caminho da Victoria nos ao em os >>> dez de Setembro de mil sete centos vinte oito, e [foy?] Parochial de Nossa >>> Senora de Guadalupe em os [?] de mes e anno em ... >>> >>> The wife's name should be (according to other sources) Catarina Antunes >>> de Miranda. What is the name of Pedro's spouse and what are the words >>> before her name? Also, I couldn't determine Manoel's birth date. >>> >>> I'm starting to explore earlier records hoping to find a connection from >>> the Azores to the mainland. We are planning a trip to Portugal in the >>> Summer and I would really love to find where either the Conde line or the >>> da Silva de Vasconcellos originated. Any assistance is greatly appreciated! >>> >>> Bill Boyd >>> Sacramento, California >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com . >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com . >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] How to start a new subject, topic, or thread on any List-serv or Group
Here's how to start a new subject, topic, or thread on any list-serv or group. We will use this group as an example. 1) Go to your email client and click button for Compose or New Email or what have you. 2) In the To or Address box, put: azores@googlegroups.com 3) In the Subject, put your subject, as you would any email. I do suggest trying to put the 3 key pieces in the subject, if applicable. Name, date (or range) and place. Many people are still working and scan the subject heading for their area. "Help Me" or "I'm New" or "Translate This" will miss a good chunk of the reading audience as they are busy. But you put "Silva, 1860-1880s, Sao Miguel island" and you've just made the busy people stop and look at your email. 4) In the body, put what you know, what research you've done, what you need help with, etc. Hope this helps those who are new to list-servs and groups :) Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Assistance - Graciosa - Pedro do Conde Sodre
Debbie, The records are the spelling rules before 1911. The translators use the modern spellings. So that is why you see the discrepancies. The number one: um, hum, and hu (with the tilde over the u) is one that confuses the translator. Many others exist too. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 1:33 PM JesseAndDeborah Mendonca < jessdebmendo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > I find it helpful to just type your partial translation into google > translate: > > Manoel son of Pedro do Conde Sodre and of [Agada Mejeo?] Of Dona Barbara > de Mello Parochiano of [?] Living on the Victory Road on the 10th of > September, one thousand seven hundred and twenty eight, and [foy?] > Parochial of Our Lady of Guadalupe on the [...] month and year in ... > > Simple, but helpful most of the time. It has me looking harder for the > spelling of what you are unsure of because it doesn’t recognize those > either. > > Debbie > > > On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 12:15 PM 'Bill Boyd' via Azores Genealogy < > azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> Hello! >> >> I have a partial translation for this baptism (bottom right) >> > > >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-B-1717-1730/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-B-1717-1730_item1/P154.html >> >> Partial translation: >> Manoel filho de Pedro do Conde Sodre e de [Agada Mejeo?] de Dona Barbara >> de Mello Parochiano de [?] moradora no Caminho da Victoria nos ao em os >> dez de Setembro de mil sete centos vinte oito, e [foy?] Parochial de Nossa >> Senora de Guadalupe em os [?] de mes e anno em ... >> >> The wife's name should be (according to other sources) Catarina Antunes >> de Miranda. What is the name of Pedro's spouse and what are the words >> before her name? Also, I couldn't determine Manoel's birth date. >> >> I'm starting to explore earlier records hoping to find a connection from >> the Azores to the mainland. We are planning a trip to Portugal in the >> Summer and I would really love to find where either the Conde line or the >> da Silva de Vasconcellos originated. Any assistance is greatly appreciated! >> >> Bill Boyd >> Sacramento, California >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Assistance - Graciosa - Pedro do Conde Sodre
Hi, I find it helpful to just type your partial translation into google translate: Manoel son of Pedro do Conde Sodre and of [Agada Mejeo?] Of Dona Barbara de Mello Parochiano of [?] Living on the Victory Road on the 10th of September, one thousand seven hundred and twenty eight, and [foy?] Parochial of Our Lady of Guadalupe on the [...] month and year in ... Simple, but helpful most of the time. It has me looking harder for the spelling of what you are unsure of because it doesn’t recognize those either. Debbie On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 12:15 PM 'Bill Boyd' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Hello! > > I have a partial translation for this baptism (bottom right) > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-B-1717-1730/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-B-1717-1730_item1/P154.html > > Partial translation: > Manoel filho de Pedro do Conde Sodre e de [Agada Mejeo?] de Dona Barbara > de Mello Parochiano de [?] moradora no Caminho da Victoria nos ao em os > dez de Setembro de mil sete centos vinte oito, e [foy?] Parochial de Nossa > Senora de Guadalupe em os [?] de mes e anno em ... > > The wife's name should be (according to other sources) Catarina Antunes > de Miranda. What is the name of Pedro's spouse and what are the words > before her name? Also, I couldn't determine Manoel's birth date. > > I'm starting to explore earlier records hoping to find a connection from > the Azores to the mainland. We are planning a trip to Portugal in the > Summer and I would really love to find where either the Conde line or the > da Silva de Vasconcellos originated. Any assistance is greatly appreciated! > > Bill Boyd > Sacramento, California > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] How to transfer your DNA to Family Tree DNA
Here's how to transfer your DNA to Family Tree DNA (FTDNA). It's free to transfer and the matching is free. To unlock FTDNA's tools is $19 USD. Yes, I know I have 3 Step 1s. Pick the company you tested with out of Step and and go to Step 2. Step 4 is only for AncestryDNA testers. 1) Download the raw data from Ancestry DNA: https://support.ancestry.com/s/article/Downloading-Raw-DNA-Data-1460089696533 1) Download the raw data from My Heritage: https://faq.myheritage.com/DNA/Manage-DNA-/951697461/How-do-I-download-my-raw-DNA-data-file-from-MyHeritage.htm 1) Down the raw data from 23 and Me (v.3, v.4, v.5): https://customercare.23andme.com/hc/en-us/articles/212196868-Accessing-and-Downloading-Your-Raw-Data 2) While waiting for the file to be compiled and emailed, create an account on FTDNA: https://www.familytreedna.com/autosomal-transfer 3) Download the raw data file that is in the email. Hopefully, it downloads to the Download folder or the Desktop. 4) AncestryDNA changed their chip again and it's incompatible. Use this converter tool: http://www.mapmy23.com/tools/ancestry_ftdna_fix.php 5) Upload the raw data to the FTDNA page. Then join the Azores DNA project. i) Log into the FTDNA page with the kit number and password. ii) Across the top is says: myFTDNA, DNA Tests, ProjectsPoint at Projects. When the drop down menu appears, click "Join a project." iii) If the Azores Islands appears on the top, click the link and scroll down to the JOIN button at the end. iv) If the Azores Islands is not suggested, scroll down to where it says "Search by Surname" and type: azores. v) When Azores Islands appears, click the link and follow the directions. Thanks, Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer), Azores DNA Project Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Assistance - Graciosa - Pedro do Conde Sodre
Hello! I have a partial translation for this baptism (bottom right):http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-B-1717-1730/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-B-1717-1730_item1/P154.html Partial translation:Manoel filho de Pedro do Conde Sodre e de [Agada Mejeo?] de Dona Barbara de Mello Parochiano de [?] moradora no Caminho da Victoria nos ao em os dez de Setembro de mil sete centos vinte oito, e [foy?] Parochial de Nossa Senora de Guadalupe em os [?] de mes e anno em ... The wife's name should be (according to other sources) Catarina Antunes de Miranda. What is the name of Pedro's spouse and what are the words before her name? Also, I couldn't determine Manoel's birth date. I'm starting to explore earlier records hoping to find a connection from the Azores to the mainland. We are planning a trip to Portugal in the Summer and I would really love to find where either the Conde line or the da Silva de Vasconcellos originated. Any assistance is greatly appreciated! Bill BoydSacramento, California -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Tracking My Grandparents lost without a trace
Debbie, if you haven't already downloaded the Portuguese Basic Paleography book from the AzoresGenWeb site, do so. It really helps with the names both given and surnames. Also, there is another glossary of words that are similar to the Genealogical Word List but a little more condensed. Both are a must when searching the docs and Google translate is a big help too! Good luck and I hope you make it to SLC in June, you'll have a lot of fun and learn a lot too! Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 9:43 AM JesseAndDeborah Mendonca < jessdebmendo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Cheri, > This is a big help; in a fast explanation you’ve listed the steps and > what’s possible. > > Mario, I’m a little farther along than you are, and it’s getting easier. > Going back to grandparents in the 1800s, I’ve enjoyed learning a little > translation and found ways to use google translate on the parts I don’t > know. The written out year also gets in the way until you figure out how > to read it. > > I hope to be at the Conference in June. Thank you for telling us about > it. > > Good luck, Mario! > > Debbie Shepherd Mendonca > > On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 8:28 PM Cheri Mello wrote: > >> Hi Mario or Billy, >> >> You are looking a church records. They are done by date. If it's a >> baptism, they are going by baptism date. So they are chronological. It may >> take more than 2 days to get used to it though. >> >> Silva/Silvia and things like that, you'll get use to it. >> >> If you know your dad was Mariano and was born 14 Apr 1914, you can get >> his baptism which will provide his parents and his grandparents and from >> there, you can use the online records. You need to know the exact village >> your dad came from. If he came from the city of Ponta Delgada on Sao >> Miguel, you'll need to know the church as they have a few. >> >> Once you get the 3 piece of information (name, date, and place -village >> and/or church), you can pay Joao Ventura to retrieve the record for you. He >> takes PayPal. His email is heroi99 at yahoo.com >> >> After that, we can show you the format that the records follow for the 3 >> time periods. It's on the Azores GenWeb here: >> >> http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/research-aids-a---l/finding-your-portuguese/finding-your-portuguese-9/ >> >> And if you learn better in person than reading and figuring it out on >> your own, you are in luck. We are having a Portuguese Genealogy Conference >> in June in Salt Lake City. That information is here: >> http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/2019slcazoresconfv12.pdf >> >> Good luck, >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 8:15 PM Billy Shear >> wrote: >> >>> I've wasted two days, going through Birth records,Passport records >>> Baptismal records looking over the Centro de Conhecimento. All such a waste >>> of time. I don't understand their system, nothing is files by dates(like >>> year,month,day) they start with first names. So in my case. His first name >>> was Manuel and my Grandmother is Maria, page after page so disappointing. I >>> think I'll just forget about trying to find out were they came from and >>> just visit the Island. I would think someone would come up with a better >>> system. To make things worst their last name was changed from DaSilva to >>> Silvia when they come from Sao Miguel, Ponta Delgarda to the USA,so much >>> for accuracy. So half my cousins are Silva and the other half are Silvia. >>> My father was born there and his first name was Mariano, now that's a >>> different name. I found a few pages with that first name however it does >>> not go to April 14,1914. I hope when I get there it will be some what >>> easier. >>> >>> Thank for any help >>> Mario Silvia >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Students of the Seminary of Angra, 1862-2013
There's something like 2700+ people in that seminary file. I don't think all became priests. I found a 3rd cousin listed and he's not a priest. There was a note after his name that said he was absent. Ooooh, another link for us to explore. Maybe Kathy Cardoza can figure out how to link it to the Azores GenWeb for us! I had searched an ancestor name and freguesia which caused me to pick up that seminary document. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 8:36 AM Margaret Vicente wrote: > Thank you Cheri, > > I have more than a dozen in the family. Did find the more recent ones. > > As an FYI, and in further checking it seems the Seminary has gone > digital. Here's the link > > http://seminariodeangra.pt/biblioteca/ > > > > On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 11:22 AM Mary Bordi wrote: > >> Ever since I found the obit of a parish priest I have had a great >> interest in knowing more about them. He had been in seminary before the >> years covered by this document but from his obit I learned who his parents >> were and his village of birth. That got me to wondering about all of them! >> >> Mary >> >> >> On Saturday, March 16, 2019, wrote: >> >>> Wow, Cheri. What a find! >>> >>> I found my great great Uncle who was admitted when he was 19 years old. >>> >>> He later became Monsignor Azevedo and was the founder of St Elizabeth's >>> church in Sacramento, CA! >>> >>> I had walked by this place in Angra and wondered if there were any >>> records. >>> >>> Thank you!! >>> >>> Lisa Caetano Harley >>> >>> On Friday, March 15, 2019 at 6:54:31 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: I somehow tripped across this in an Internet search. The title says it's a list of students from the Seminary in Angra, from 1862-2013. They are all boys, some as young as 10. Not everyone becomes a priest. It lists the name of the student, where they are from, their parents, and age. There's an admission date, so just subtract for an approximate birth. It is an Excel document. Do a Ctrl+F (or Cmd+F for Mac) and search by FREGUESIA. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=11&ved=2ahUKEwi-svDfpoXhAhVQip4KHQqAC9QQFjAKegQIBhAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fseminario-episcopal-de-angra.webnode.pt%2F_files%2F20757-52d3953d1e%2FAlunos%2520do%2520Semin%25C3%25A1rio%2520Episcopal%2520de%2520Angra%2520de%25201862%2520-%25202013.xls&usg=AOvVaw272mMggzifpSsVMJ91XT-F Good luck and happy hunting! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > > -- > Margaret M Vicente > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] visiting the Azores in May
Leonor is right about the back roads! On São Miguel especially there is a smaller old road that parallels the main highway that rings the island. It is closer to the coast and goes through many small towns. A much nicer route if you have the time to go slowly. On Friday, March 15, 2019 at 4:41:24 PM UTC-7, Leonor Bertoni wrote: > > The back roads are still my favourite way to travel, we often stay off the > highway, in this way we always find small treasures, whether a restaurant, > a coffee shop or a beach, there’s always something! > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Tracking My Grandparents lost without a trace
Cheri, This is a big help; in a fast explanation you’ve listed the steps and what’s possible. Mario, I’m a little farther along than you are, and it’s getting easier. Going back to grandparents in the 1800s, I’ve enjoyed learning a little translation and found ways to use google translate on the parts I don’t know. The written out year also gets in the way until you figure out how to read it. I hope to be at the Conference in June. Thank you for telling us about it. Good luck, Mario! Debbie Shepherd Mendonca On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 8:28 PM Cheri Mello wrote: > Hi Mario or Billy, > > You are looking a church records. They are done by date. If it's a > baptism, they are going by baptism date. So they are chronological. It may > take more than 2 days to get used to it though. > > Silva/Silvia and things like that, you'll get use to it. > > If you know your dad was Mariano and was born 14 Apr 1914, you can get his > baptism which will provide his parents and his grandparents and from there, > you can use the online records. You need to know the exact village your dad > came from. If he came from the city of Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel, you'll > need to know the church as they have a few. > > Once you get the 3 piece of information (name, date, and place -village > and/or church), you can pay Joao Ventura to retrieve the record for you. He > takes PayPal. His email is heroi99 at yahoo.com > > After that, we can show you the format that the records follow for the 3 > time periods. It's on the Azores GenWeb here: > > http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/research-aids-a---l/finding-your-portuguese/finding-your-portuguese-9/ > > And if you learn better in person than reading and figuring it out on your > own, you are in luck. We are having a Portuguese Genealogy Conference in > June in Salt Lake City. That information is here: > http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/2019slcazoresconfv12.pdf > > Good luck, > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 8:15 PM Billy Shear > wrote: > >> I've wasted two days, going through Birth records,Passport records >> Baptismal records looking over the Centro de Conhecimento. All such a waste >> of time. I don't understand their system, nothing is files by dates(like >> year,month,day) they start with first names. So in my case. His first name >> was Manuel and my Grandmother is Maria, page after page so disappointing. I >> think I'll just forget about trying to find out were they came from and >> just visit the Island. I would think someone would come up with a better >> system. To make things worst their last name was changed from DaSilva to >> Silvia when they come from Sao Miguel, Ponta Delgarda to the USA,so much >> for accuracy. So half my cousins are Silva and the other half are Silvia. >> My father was born there and his first name was Mariano, now that's a >> different name. I found a few pages with that first name however it does >> not go to April 14,1914. I hope when I get there it will be some what >> easier. >> >> Thank for any help >> Mario Silvia >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Students of the Seminary of Angra, 1862-2013
Thank you Cheri, I have more than a dozen in the family. Did find the more recent ones. As an FYI, and in further checking it seems the Seminary has gone digital. Here's the link http://seminariodeangra.pt/biblioteca/ On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 11:22 AM Mary Bordi wrote: > Ever since I found the obit of a parish priest I have had a great interest > in knowing more about them. He had been in seminary before the years > covered by this document but from his obit I learned who his parents were > and his village of birth. That got me to wondering about all of them! > > Mary > > > On Saturday, March 16, 2019, wrote: > >> Wow, Cheri. What a find! >> >> I found my great great Uncle who was admitted when he was 19 years old. >> >> He later became Monsignor Azevedo and was the founder of St Elizabeth's >> church in Sacramento, CA! >> >> I had walked by this place in Angra and wondered if there were any >> records. >> >> Thank you!! >> >> Lisa Caetano Harley >> >> On Friday, March 15, 2019 at 6:54:31 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: >>> >>> I somehow tripped across this in an Internet search. >>> >>> The title says it's a list of students from the Seminary in Angra, from >>> 1862-2013. They are all boys, some as young as 10. Not everyone becomes a >>> priest. It lists the name of the student, where they are from, their >>> parents, and age. There's an admission date, so just subtract for an >>> approximate birth. It is an Excel document. Do a Ctrl+F (or Cmd+F for Mac) >>> and search by FREGUESIA. >>> >>> >>> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=11&ved=2ahUKEwi-svDfpoXhAhVQip4KHQqAC9QQFjAKegQIBhAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fseminario-episcopal-de-angra.webnode.pt%2F_files%2F20757-52d3953d1e%2FAlunos%2520do%2520Semin%25C3%25A1rio%2520Episcopal%2520de%2520Angra%2520de%25201862%2520-%25202013.xls&usg=AOvVaw272mMggzifpSsVMJ91XT-F >>> >>> Good luck and happy hunting! >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Margaret M Vicente -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Students of the Seminary of Angra, 1862-2013
Ever since I found the obit of a parish priest I have had a great interest in knowing more about them. He had been in seminary before the years covered by this document but from his obit I learned who his parents were and his village of birth. That got me to wondering about all of them! Mary On Saturday, March 16, 2019, wrote: > Wow, Cheri. What a find! > > I found my great great Uncle who was admitted when he was 19 years old. > > He later became Monsignor Azevedo and was the founder of St Elizabeth's > church in Sacramento, CA! > > I had walked by this place in Angra and wondered if there were any records. > > Thank you!! > > Lisa Caetano Harley > > On Friday, March 15, 2019 at 6:54:31 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> I somehow tripped across this in an Internet search. >> >> The title says it's a list of students from the Seminary in Angra, from >> 1862-2013. They are all boys, some as young as 10. Not everyone becomes a >> priest. It lists the name of the student, where they are from, their >> parents, and age. There's an admission date, so just subtract for an >> approximate birth. It is an Excel document. Do a Ctrl+F (or Cmd+F for Mac) >> and search by FREGUESIA. >> >> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c >> d=11&ved=2ahUKEwi-svDfpoXhAhVQip4KHQqAC9QQFjAKegQIBhAC&url= >> https%3A%2F%2Fseminario-episcopal-de-angra.webnode.pt% >> 2F_files%2F20757-52d3953d1e%2FAlunos%2520do%2520Semin%25C3%25A1rio% >> 2520Episcopal%2520de%2520Angra%2520de%25201862% >> 2520-%25202013.xls&usg=AOvVaw272mMggzifpSsVMJ91XT-F >> >> Good luck and happy hunting! >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Students of the Seminary of Angra, 1862-2013
Wow, Cheri. What a find! I found my great great Uncle who was admitted when he was 19 years old. He later became Monsignor Azevedo and was the founder of St Elizabeth's church in Sacramento, CA! I had walked by this place in Angra and wondered if there were any records. Thank you!! Lisa Caetano Harley On Friday, March 15, 2019 at 6:54:31 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: > > I somehow tripped across this in an Internet search. > > The title says it's a list of students from the Seminary in Angra, from > 1862-2013. They are all boys, some as young as 10. Not everyone becomes a > priest. It lists the name of the student, where they are from, their > parents, and age. There's an admission date, so just subtract for an > approximate birth. It is an Excel document. Do a Ctrl+F (or Cmd+F for Mac) > and search by FREGUESIA. > > > https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=11&ved=2ahUKEwi-svDfpoXhAhVQip4KHQqAC9QQFjAKegQIBhAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fseminario-episcopal-de-angra.webnode.pt%2F_files%2F20757-52d3953d1e%2FAlunos%2520do%2520Semin%25C3%25A1rio%2520Episcopal%2520de%2520Angra%2520de%25201862%2520-%25202013.xls&usg=AOvVaw272mMggzifpSsVMJ91XT-F > > Good luck and happy hunting! > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
