Fwd: [AZORES-Genealogy] leaving the azores
Ricardo D. Rebelo's Island of My Dreams aired on Rhode Island PBS, channel 36, on Sunday, May 29, at 11 p.m. You can watch the entire film online here: http://blip.tv/rrebelo/island-of-my-dreams-4885145 More to follow.. best, grace falcone Searching Family names: Pacheco Santana , Moniz, Cabral, da Costa, Carvalho, Vieira, daSiva, Tavares, Arruda, Pereira Villages on San Miguel, Azores: Furnas, Maia, Porto Formoso, and Nordeste -Original Message- From: gracefalcone gracefalc...@aol.com To: GraceFalcone gracefalc...@aol.com Sent: Thu, Jan 31, 2013 12:48 am Subject: Fwd: [AZORES-Genealogy] leaving the azores Re: FILM: Ricardo D. Rebelo's Island of My Dreams aired on Rhode Island PBS, channel 36, on Sunday, May 29, at 11 p.m. You can watch the entire film online here: http://blip.tv/rrebelo/island-of-my-dreams-4885145 Best, grace -Original Message- From: Mike mgilfilia...@gmail.com To: azores azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, Jan 30, 2013 9:03 pm Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] leaving the azores When it comes to women leaving the Azores to come to the USA, is there any typical situation that would bring them over? coming with parents? coming with husband? would they have traveled over with an older or younger brother? Would she have traveled over alone if another family member already here? I'm trying to find a clue to connect my great aunt Francisca to my great grandfather Jose to maybe narrow down some of the search results for traveling into the USA Mike -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[AZORES-Genealogy] The Last Azorean Whalers (documentary- released 2012 see clip )
My dear Azorean Friends, The Last Azorean Whalemen being released 2012. May be of interest to some. After a year and a half of organizing, planning, concepting, grant writing...trips to Whalers homes in New Bedford, MA as well as Pico, Azores we have our film in the can. This 2 minute trailer is just the tip of the iceberg for the story we have captured and will tell. We have slated a Spring 2012 release and will surely bring another teaser your way before then! So stay tuned and thank you for watching. _http://vimeo.com/29633214_ (http://vimeo.com/29633214) best, grace falcone Searching Family names: Pacheco Santana , Moniz, Cabral, da Costa, Carvalho, Vieira, daSiva, Tavares, Arruda, Pereira Villages on San Miguel, Azores: Furnas, Maia, Porto Formoso, and Nordeste Nenhuma ideia brilhante consegue entrar em circulação se não agregando a si qualquer elemento de estupidez. No intelligent idea can gain general acceptance unless some element of stupidity is mixed in with it. Fernando Pessoa, Portuguese poet and writer, 1888-1935 -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] The Last Azorean Whalemen
You can watch it here: _http://vimeo.com/29633214_ (http://vimeo.com/29633214) (http://vimeo.com/29633214) The Last Azorean Whalemen - Trailer _http://vimeo.com/29633214_ (http://vimeo.com/29633214) Dear Azorean Friends, The Last of the Azorean Whalers being released 2012. May be of interest to some. best, grace falcone About this video: After a year and a half of organizing, planning, concepting, grant writing...trips to Whalers homes in New Bedford, MA as well as Pico, Azores we have our film in the can. This 2 minute trailer is just the tip of the iceberg for the story we have captured and will tell. We have slated a Spring 2012 release and will surely bring another teaser your way before then! So stay tuned and thank you for watching. Forward this email to your friends and family so that they can see it, too. best, grace falcone Searching Family names: Pacheco Santana , Moniz, Cabral, da Costa, Carvalho, Vieira, daSiva, Tavares, Arruda, Pereira Villages on San Miguel, Azores: Furnas, Maia, Porto Formoso, and Nordeste Nenhuma ideia brilhante consegue entrar em circulação se não agregando a si qualquer elemento de estupidez No intelligent idea can gain general acceptance unless some element of stupidity is mixed in with it. Fernando Pessoa, Portuguese poet and writer, 1888-1935 -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Port of Departure
Karen, In the have noticed on some of the ships' manifest, that some boats leaving out of Sao Miguel would then go to the other islands to pick up passengers. I believe I saw - Sao Miguel/Fayal (that was the spelling) and Sao Miguel/Terceria. _http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/ig/_ (http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/ig/) Have fun searching. best, grace best, grace falcone Searching Family names: Pacheco Santana , Moniz, Cabral, da Costa, Carvalho, Vieira, daSiva, Tavares, Arruda, Pereira Villages on San Miguel, Azores: Furnas, Maia, Porto Formoso, and Nordeste In a message dated 8/2/2011 3:15:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gfsche...@gmail.com writes: Karen, I think Horta on Faial is the closest port. Either that or Angra on Terceira. Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel is definitely the furthest port from Sao Jorge island. I would guess the port closest to home would be where an ancestor would leave. But if they had to leave soon, they may have gone to any port to get out the soonest. I've seen a few Sao Jorge people leaving from Sao Miguel, but the vast majority are from Sao Miguel and Santa Maria islands. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at _http://groups.google.com/group/Azores_ (http://groups.google.com/group/Azores) . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: documentary on PBS
Dear Tom, Thank-you for sharing the PBS Azorean Immigration Documentary. I am forwarding it to my family. _h_ (http://www.mefeedia.com/watch/37464731) ttp://www.mefeedia.com/watch/37464731 saudades!! best, grace falcone Searching Family names: Pacheco Santana , Moniz, Cabral, da Costa, Carvalho, Vieira, daSiva, Tavares, Arruda, Pereira Villages on San Miguel, Azores: Furnas, Maia, Porto Formoso, and Nordeste In a message dated 4/28/2011 1:08:17 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, thomas.deco...@usmc.mil writes: http://www.mefeedia.com/watch/37464731 I think the above link is the entire show - Just watching it gave me saudades! Great Job Mr. Rebelo! Adeus and Aloha! Tom -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translated 4th volume of Saudades
Hi david, I would love to have a digital copy of livro quatro of saudades da terra. Please let me know what is needed to acquire a copy from you. Thank-you so very much!! best, grace falcone _gracefalcone@aol.com_ (mailto:gracefalc...@aol.com) Family names: Pacheco Santana, Moniz, Cabral, Carvalho, da Costa Canario, Vieira de Silva, Tavares, Arruda Villages on San Miguel, Azores: Furnas, Maia, Porto Formosa, and Sao Pedro-Nordestinho, In a message dated 3/21/2011 11:09:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, oldschoo...@gmail.com writes: I have a digital copy of the translated livro quarto of saudades da terra that I scanned that i can send to whoever wants a copy. I also burned a copy to a cd that I put in the Oakland FHC library which should be available to those who want to view it. David On Mar 21, 6:49 pm, emac...@aol.com wrote: Yes, one that I know of, but the only way to get a copy is a used copy. I can't remember her name, but she translated Livro Quarto of Das Saudades da Terra by Gaspar Frutuoso. It's about the leading families in the early days of the Azores. Mostly Sao Miguel and Santa Maria...little on the other islands. Frutuoso, I believed died in the late 1500's. I know several people on the list have the book. I gave my copy to the Family History Library in Oakland. Eloise In a message dated 3/21/2011 6:27:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, mikee...@hotmail.com writes: Do any of you know if any of the sao miguel books have been translated into english text? -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The Trip they took
Cheri, Correct me, I believe I read somewhere that when WWII began, the United States limited the number of persons it accepted into this country. This was because of the masses that were trying to leave Europe. best, grace falcone In a message dated 3/20/2011 11:53:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gfsche...@gmail.com writes: Linda L, The people who are more versed on history can answer. When I looked at the passaportes (emigration out of the Azores), there were a lot from the 1880s-1900 going to Hawaii. I saw a lot to America, and some to Canada and Brazil. When World War 2 hit, there were much, much less people leaving. If I had to guess, by 1920, the economy was better after WWI and people started emigrating again. But the historians in this group will chime in and let you know. I like history, but was not a history major or read extensively on it. Those who have read a lot or were history majors will post, I'm sure. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at _http://groups.google.com/group/Azores_ (http://groups.google.com/group/Azores) . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's Family Finder
Cheri, I am saving your email!! You nailed the explanation. best regards, grace falcone In a message dated 3/21/2011 12:17:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, netadosaco...@aol.com writes: Wow! How interesting. Ally In a message dated 3/17/2011 10:26:25 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, gfsche...@gmail.com writes: It took awhile for ALL my dad's DNA results to come in on the Family Finder test, but they are now in. Vocabulary lesson for those new or wondering about DNA: Family Tree DNA (FTDNA): The oldest and largest DNA testing company dedicated to genealogy. They have high standards and are also involved in national type standards, which they adhere to. These are only some of the reasons that the Azores DNA project is housed with FTDNA. Family Finder: A DNA test for autosomal DNA. All your lines. Autosomal DNA: Imagine this. We all have 4 grandparents. Let's use a deck of cards to represent each one: Clubs, spades, hearts, and diamonds. We get half our DNA from our father and half from our mother. Our father got half from his mom and half from his dad. Same goes for our mom. So, theoretically, we should be 25% of each grandparent. However, DNA is a kind of recombining or shuffling of DNA. So if we take our deck of cards and shuffle them, that's like the DNA recombining. Keep half the deck and discard half. Then shuffle that half again. Keep half and discard half. Now look at the cards. Do you have 25% clubs, 25% hearts, 25% spades, and 25% diamonds? Probably not. That's kind of what happens with DNA as it is passed down each generation. Why I tested my dad: I have only half of his genes and 25% of each of his parents (in theory, that is. I may phycially have 20% from one and 30% from the other). My dad has roughly 50% from each parent (or 48 - 52% each parent). So I tested his DNA because he has more of the previous generations. The results: Population Finder: This tells you on a large scale what percentages you are: African (there are subgroups), American (Central or South American subgroups only), East Asian, European (no Portuguese data in their sample), Middle Eastern, Oceania, or South Asian. My dad, who is half Portuguese and half American tested out to be 100% European, give or take 0.01%. So I think it's pretty safe to say that within the last 5 to 7 generations, there are no surprises in his tree. However, since the geneticists that study populations have no Portuguese in their sample, my dad's sub-European group is French! I know his American half is made out of lines that are heavy British surnames. FTDNA does state that Population Finder is in beta testing. As the geneticists study more populations and add that data to their samples, I'm sure my dad's subgroup will change as FTDNA updates that database. Family Finder Matches: I was pretty sure I wasn't going to have any Portuguese matches with my dad, as not many Portuguese people have had this test yet. I did get a couple of matches on his American side. It takes some doing though and a pedigree that you can look at. My dad has a 2-great Bolton ancestor. Once the other person posted Bolton, I knew that is where the match was. All we had to do was share our Bolton lines and find the name of the common ancestor. The disappointment was cousin Charles. He has Damrons and my dad's great-grandma was a Damron. Their common ancestors were born in the 1750s. I was hoping there was enough DNA from the 1750s - 1760s that lasted until the 1930s when my dad and cousin Charles were born. 180-something years. And the Damron married his first cousin, so I was really hoping that there was enough DNA material to last that many generations. I guess not with these two. Either that or someone's Damron pedigree is wrong. But with the Damron clan, I don't think so. There's pretty good research with them, so I think that there just wasn't quite enough genetic material that got passed down to these two men. However, my mom's DNA had a match that went back 140 years. Again, I have my mom's Gedcom up on her page and once I saw the other person post their surnames, I knew where the match was. Another neat feature: Once I see the match, I can go to the Chromosome Browser and see exactly where on the chromosome they match. My mom matches this cousin on a big chunk of chromosome 11 and a little bit on chromosome 15. Funny about my mom: She's from the Ozarks of Missouri. Lived right on the state line. She crossed the street and she was in Arkansas! Her lines are heavy Tennessee, Kentucky, North Carolina, and Virginia. Or so I thought. Her Population Finder? 90% European (subgroup the British Isles, which is what I suspected). The other 10%? Middle Eastern! Time to reexamine her genealogy! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting site with Roda children info Horta, Faial
The book, Azores: Nine Islands, One History = Açores: Nove Ilhas, Uma Historia [Paperback] By Susana Goulart Costa may be helpful in providing introductory information regarding Roda children, or children that were abandoned throughout the islands during this time. I found it on Amazon.com grace falcone Family names-Pacheco Santana, Moniz, Cabral, Carvalho, da Costa Canario, Vieira de Silva, Tavares, Arruda (villages-Furnas, Maia, Porto Formosa-Riberia Grande and Sao Pedro-Nordestinho, Sao Miguel, Azores) -Original Message- From: netadosaco...@aol.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, Feb 9, 2011 7:16 am Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting site with Roda children info Horta, Faial E Thank you for sharing this sad sight. Now I want even more to research the time period of history that would make parents abandon their babies. Ally Anselmo's of Rebeira Seca, Sao Miguel Pinheiro's and Nune's of Praia do Almoxarife and Pedro Miguel, Faial Silveira's and Rodrigues' of Sao Jorge In a message dated 2/8/2011 8:49:19 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, bellema...@gmail.com writes: http://repositorio.uac.pt/handle/10400.3/970 -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel)
He was a good man!! grace -Original Message- From: Debra Wolgemuth wolgemut...@msn.com To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, Jan 28, 2011 3:25 am Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel) My great grandmother traveled from the Azores to California, entered through Ellis Island and took the train across the country to California. My mother recalls that my great grandfather paid for a female traveling companion to escort Lena to California, because it was not proper for a lady to travel alone. Debbie Wolgemuth Researching Azoreans: Jorge (Flores), Freitas (Flores), Enos (San Miguel), Silveira Matos (Faial), Rodrigues (unknown) Immigrated to: Merced, CA From: ja...@cdmmarketing.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:11:53 -0800 I don't know if most of them came via the east coast or not, but my great grandfather, Francisco Medeiros entered the US at Boston and then traveled by train to Calif. in about 1904. He came from Cedros, Faial. He established a ranch in the Briones Valley near Martinez, Ca with his father before sending for my great grandmother, my grandfather (who was 7) and his brother and sister in 1906. I found the ships records for them and it says that my g-grandmother was coming here to join her husband in Martinez, Contra Costa County, CA. I don't know exactly when they took the train to Calif but I don't think it was very long after they arrived. My grandfather had cousins who lived/live in Mass so they may have stayed and visited for a few weeks first. My grandfather told me that the train ride was a great adventure for him. I doubt my g-grandmother felt the same way though; riding a train all the way accross the US without a man and 3 small children in tow. I have such respect and awe for the bravery of these people coming here and all they had to endure to start a new life. Jacki Gentry Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gracefalc...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 2:19 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel) Before air travel and not counting those that sailed the whaling boats, when our Azorean ancestors traveled from the Azores to United States I am assuming most of them un boarded on the east coast (New Bedford, Boston, New York) and took a train to the west coast. (1) Were the train stations near the ports? (2) What routes did most of them take to get across the United States to get to their destinations. (3) Any thing else of interest you may have regarding this journey would be helpful. thank-you for your time. grace falcone Family names-Pacheco Santana, Moniz, Cabral, Carvalho, da Costa Canario, Vieira de Silva, Tavares, Arruda (villages-Furnas, Maia, Porto Formosa-Riberia Grande and Sao Pedro-Nordestinho, Sao Miguel, Azores) -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel)
These are all great stories of courageousness and valor. grace I don't know if most of them came via the east coast or not, but my great grandfather, Francisco Medeiros entered the US at Boston and then traveled by train to Calif. in about 1904. He came from Cedros, Faial. He established a ranch in the Briones Valley near Martinez, Ca with his father before sending for my great grandmother, my grandfather (who was 7) and his brother and sister in 1906. I found the ships records for them and it says that my g-grandmother was coming here to join her husband in Martinez, Contra Costa County, CA. I don't know exactly when they took the train to Calif but I don't think it was very long after they arrived. My grandfather had cousins who lived/live in Mass so they may have stayed and visited for a few weeks first. My grandfather told me that the train ride was a great adventure for him. I doubt my g-grandmother felt the same way though; riding a train all the way accross the US without a man and 3 small children in tow. I have such respect and awe for the bravery of these people coming here and all they had to endure to start a new life. Jacki Gentry Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gracefalc...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 2:19 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel) Before air travel and not counting those that sailed the whaling boats, when our Azorean ancestors traveled from the Azores to United States I am assuming most of them un boarded on the east coast (New Bedford, Boston, New York) and took a train to the west coast. (1) Were the train stations near the ports? (2) What routes did most of them take to get across the United States to get to their destinations. (3) Any thing else of interest you may have regarding this journey would be helpful. thank-you for your time. grace falcone Family names-Pacheco Santana, Moniz, Cabral, Carvalho, da Costa Canario, Vieira de Silva, Tavares, Arruda (villages-Furnas, Maia, Porto Formosa-Riberia Grande and Sao Pedro-Nordestinho, Sao Miguel, Azores) -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -Original Message- From: Jacki G. ja...@cdmmarketing.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, Jan 27, 2011 10:11 pm Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel) I don't know if most of them came via the east coast or not, but my great grandfather, Francisco Medeiros entered the US at Boston and then traveled by train to Calif. in about 1904. He came from Cedros, Faial. He established a ranch in the Briones Valley near Martinez, Ca with his father before sending for my great grandmother, my grandfather (who was 7) and his brother and sister in 1906. I found the ships records for them and it says that my g-grandmother was coming here to join her husband in Martinez, Contra Costa County, CA. I don't know exactly when they took the train to Calif but I don't think it was very long after they arrived. My grandfather had cousins who lived/live in Mass so they may have stayed and visited for a few weeks first. My grandfather told me that the train ride was a great adventure for him. I doubt my g-grandmother felt the same way though; riding a train all the way accross the US without a man and 3 small children in tow. I have such respect and awe for the bravery of these people coming here and all they had to endure to start a new life. Jacki Gentry Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gracefalc...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 2:19 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azor...
Thank-you for all your fascinating stories. best, grace falcone Family names-Pacheco Santana, Moniz, Cabral, Carvalho, da Costa Canario, Vieira, de Silva, Tavares, Arruda (villages-Furnas, Maia, Porto Formosa-Riberia Grande and Sao Pedro-Nordestinho, Sao Miguel, Azores) In a message dated 1/25/2011 12:33:35 P.M. Central Standard Time, cakemom...@aol.com writes: My aunt always told the story of how the rest of my grandfather's family, probably in the 1880's, and that they came around the Horn. I have never found where they disembarked, but I am thinking it had to be around San Francisco, since my grandfather was in Sacramento. Mary Ann M. In a message dated 1/24/2011 8:05:16 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, gomes.ances...@gmail.com writes: My great grandparents (grandfather's parents) Victorino (B:Nov 17, 1883, d Jan. 1951) and Mary Gomes traveled through the horn to Honolulu, HI in 1906. My Great-great grandparents Manuel and Mary Rodrigues traveled through the horn between 1887 and 1889. I have not researched the ship records for when the Cabral side of the family made the same trip, however both of my great grandmother from the Cabral and my great grandfather from th Rodrigues side (mentioned in the previous pargraph) were born in Hawaii. I wonder if there are relatives in the tree that immigrated to the East Coast instead of Hawaii. But that is for another thread. Eric Gomes Castro Valley, CA On Jan 24, 2011, at 11:11 AM, _cakemom102@aol.com_ (mailto:cakemom...@aol.com) wrote: WBRMy grandmother, Maria de Gloria Silveira from Praia do Almoxirife in Faial, came to Massachusetts in She lived there for about 8 years and then she lost her job in one of the mills. Her uncle, Manuel Vargas, lived here in Sacramento and he was friends with Francisco Jose Luis who had just lost his wife and was from Pedra Miguel a nearby area in the Faial. My grandmother was in her late twenties and not married. When she wrote and told her uncle that she had lost her job, I'm guessing he told her to come west and meet this widower he knew. She came across country by train and told my aunt that train robbers had tried to stop the train. She arrived in Sacramento and shortly after married my grandfather, Francisco Jose Luis and became step-mother to his 6 almost grown children. She had 4 children of her own, two of which died in infancy. Mary Ann M. -Original Message- From: Mary Bordi _genealogy@hununu.org_ (mailto:geneal...@hununu.org) To: _azores@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores@googlegroups.com) Sent: Mon, Jan 24, 2011 10:18 am Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azor... Something else I should have added to my post about my great grandfather coming by train from Massachusetts to California is that we are fairly certain that he already had at least one brother and maybe cousins here in California. He only stayed in Massachusetts to pay off his passage to the US. I really would like to know who the first one was who came and maybe I will find out someday. Mary Bordi On Jan 23, 2011, at 7:52 PM, _gracefalcone@aol.com_ (mailto:gracefalc...@aol.com) wrote: thank-you mary this is exactly the kind of information I was looking for. Most of my azorean ancestors settled in Fall River, Swansea, and New Bedford. In my attempts to locate any that may have headed West. I am fascinated with how our azorean peoples migrated with little to nothing after leaving the islands and got to California and elsewhere. best, grace In a message dated 1/23/2011 7:04:02 P.M. Central Standard Time, _genealogy@hununu.org_ (mailto:geneal...@hununu.org) writes: On Jan 23, 2011, at 2:19 PM, _gracefalcone@aol.com_ (mailto:gracefalc...@aol.com) wrote: (3) Any thing else of interest you may have regarding this journey would be helpful. I am not sure this is what you are looking for but... My great grandfather (from Sao Jorge) came to Massachusetts around 1871 and worked several years there before coming to California. When he did, he came by train and he told my mother that the Indians played tricks on the train as they were passing by. Mary Bordi -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to _Azores+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com) . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at _http://groups.google.com/group/Azores_ (http://groups.google.com/group/Azores) . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to _Azores+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com) .
[AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel)
Before air travel and not counting those that sailed the whaling boats, when our Azorean ancestors traveled from the Azores to United States I am assuming most of them un boarded on the east coast (New Bedford, Boston, New York) and took a train to the west coast. (1) Were the train stations near the ports? (2) What routes did most of them take to get across the United States to get to their destinations. (3) Any thing else of interest you may have regarding this journey would be helpful. thank-you for your time. grace falcone Family names-Pacheco Santana, Moniz, Cabral, Carvalho, da Costa Canario, Vieira de Silva, Tavares, Arruda (villages-Furnas, Maia, Porto Formosa-Riberia Grande and Sao Pedro-Nordestinho, Sao Miguel, Azores) -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azor...
Thank-you Cheri, FYI. The French had attempted construction of a canal in the 1880s, the Panama Canal was successfully built from 1904 to 1914. _http://www.eclipse.co.uk/~sl5763/panama.htm_ (http://www.eclipse.co.uk/~sl5763/panama.htm) Have looked at a few of my Azorean history books, revealing nothing specific. Will follow-thru on some of your suggestions. best, grace In a message dated 1/23/2011 4:58:40 P.M. Central Standard Time, gfsche...@gmail.com writes: Grace, To clarify the time period (and I'm not a transportation history buff), would before air travel be before WWII? When did air travel become feasible for the average American (or Canadian?) So are you saying maybe from 1850s to the 1950s? I know some disembarked on the east coast and took trains. Mine did that in the very early 1900s. I don't know the year of the Panama Canal off the top of my head, but I know many sailed around the horn before it was opened. Some of the early ones probably joined wagon trains. I don't know of the train or ship ports. Maybe others on this list knows. If it wasn't too far and before the automobile, I suppose some were just picked up by horse and buggy and brought to the home where they were going to live. The routes are going to depend heavily on the time period. You might want to google american migration trails or american migration routes to find information. Sorry I'm not of more help. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at _http://groups.google.com/group/Azores_ (http://groups.google.com/group/Azores) . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azor...
Thank-you so much Celeste!! This if very good information. best, grace falcone In a message dated 1/23/2011 7:03:11 P.M. Central Standard Time, ccgran...@yahoo.com writes: My maternal grandmother, Maria Jose Ferreira Dinis, traveled from Terceira via white Star Line, S.S. Cretic to the US in 1915. She is the one I could not find entering via Ellis Island. Elaine found her entering via the port of Boston. She was going to: her father, Joao Ferreira Dinis; in Holt Station, San Joaquim. Her father was working in San Gregorio which is half way between Half Moon Bay and Santa Cruz on the California border with the Pacific Ocean. I found someone who worked for the railroad and asked about Holt Station. I was told that was a station in 1915 just outside Stockton, CA. I have not followed up on that information to see if the station still exists. I also have a complicated story about my maternal grandfather; however, he left Lisbon for the US in 1913. Celeste, Hayward, CA Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com --- On Sun, 1/23/11, gracefalc...@aol.com gracefalc...@aol.com wrote: (3) Any thing else of interest you may have regarding this journey would be helpful. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at _http://groups.google.com/group/Azores_ (http://groups.google.com/group/Azores) . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Do you Recognize Anyone?
Porto Formosa? grace falcone In a message dated 9/16/2010 5:46:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, patli...@verizon.net writes: The picture of unknown men - my grandfather, Antonio Furtado, front row, end on the right side. I think the front row, second from the left is Lopes, from what I thought my father said. Do not know where except that it's in Sao Miguel maybe Ribeira Grande mid 1930's? I don't why this was taken either, but my father had these pictures that I found. The Service Men picture - I'm stumped because the front row second from the right looks like my grandfather, but I don't remember him being in the service so I'm not sure. That would be taken around 1914 maybe. Any thoughts? Linda Borges Furtado Norton *** This e-mail message and any attachment(s) are confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any copying, distribution, dissemination, or use of the information in this communication in any way is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please reply to this message to notify the sender and delete the original message from your e-mail account. For intended recipients, please safeguard any personal information included in this transmission. State laws may require you to take specific measures to secure personal information and notify individuals affected by any security breach of your physical and/or electronic files. Thank You. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at _http://groups.google.com/group/Azores_ (http://groups.google.com/group/Azores) . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]Portuguese wine
winesearcher.com -Original Message- From: nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com To: azores group azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, Jul 1, 2010 1:49 pm Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy]Portuguese wine Also, a good wine from Pico is the Friar Gigante.Lajido is the wine that was sent to the Czar's and kings at the time it was in full production and you can still buy it on Pico. Very good honey colored wine. I wish we could buy Pico or Portuguese wines in Arkansas! Nancy Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 03:28:02 + From: danandma...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]Portuguese wine It is a dessert liqueur. Not wine. As for Azorean table wines, there is one from Pico called Basalto that is a very nice red. Otherwise, seek wines from the mainland (Douro, Alentejo, Dao regions). Summer is ideal for vinhos verdes. Some are produced rather cheaply and over-carbonated (Gatao, Lagosta, and Mateus are in this category). Really nice one, not expensive, served very cold is Casal Garcia. Probably the best quality vinho verde is Palacio da Brejoeira. You'll pay a little more but it is great quality. Here in Nashville, it has taken us a while to educate various wine stores to get these wines in but they are finally catching on and everyone is happier. Maria Moore - Original Message - From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 5:52:11 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]Portuguese wine Linda, Maracuja is a dessert wine. It's made from passion fruit, I believe. Cheri -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. Get busy. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] looking for information on my g ggrandfather
Yes they are the western islands to Portugal, but I have read that the islands are clumped in three groups, western group (Flores, Corvo) the central group PICO, Fial, Sao Jorge, and eastern group Sao Miguel, Santa Maria. -Original Message- From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, Feb 20, 2010 4:40 pm Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] looking for information on my g ggrandfather HelloFrank, Ican not help you much but the term Western Island refers to all the islands in the Acores. Igrew up in Portsmouth NH and the Bartlett name is well known and goes back to pre revolutionary days. Thereis a house on display in Portsmouth known as the Bartlett house. There is also a street named Bartlett Street. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, NewHampshire, USA ResearchingBretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel,Acores for, Pimentel (Costa), Carvalho,Teixeira, Rocha -Original Message- From: azo...@googlegroups.com[mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf OfFRANK BARTLETT Sent: Saturday, February 20, 20101:12 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy]looking for information on my g ggrandfather Looking for informationon my g ggrandfather and his brother. He and his brother immigrated tothe US in the 1870's-1880's as a pre teen and his brother a teen as the story hasbeen told. They came through Portsmouth, NH. My g grandfather wasthen adopted by a Bartlett family in NH and later moved on to the Bostonarea. Much is known about him from there on. But little mention ofhis past. We know his brother moved on very soon after arrival to Merced CA. They usedan anglicized name something like Gerrivas, Gerevas. or possiblyGervasio. We know a sister joined the Uncle later on in the 1880's, but she went directlyto Merced. I am trying to find the family name and the Azoreanisland of they're origin. Some had mentioned in the ancestry notes that it most likely was awestern island of Sao Jorge, Pico, Faial, or Flores, since they supposedlyarrived on a whaling vessel. Anyway a trip to the Azores is on my bucket listbut I would like to have a little more info before I go. Thanks, Frank Bartlett -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email toazores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions whenthey arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail(vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores.Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group andit will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
