Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] obtaining birth records

2014-02-10 Thread João Ventura
Manuel Costa,

I hate to contradict everyone before, but they are only right for any 
certificate applying up to 1913. The 'Registo Civil' is simply unable to 
provide a certificate for a book that they no longer have. If the books are 
from 1900, they'll be in the Public Library of Ponta Delgada, and they are 
the only ones that can provide a certificate of their authenticity. Their 
contacts are here: http://213.58.174.38:8317/contactos/. You'll need to add 
'+351' to the phone numbers.

João Ventura
http://tombo.pt

On Sunday, 9 February 2014 03:01:48 UTC+1, Manuel Costa wrote:
>
> Thank you I have talked to the consulate in D.C. and mailed her a photo 
> copy of the records I have. Its in the archives because it is a 1900 
> record.I am waiting a reply.
>
> On Saturday, February 8, 2014 4:53:15 PM UTC-6, Mara wrote:
>>
>> Manuel, 
>>
>> You can try first at the Portal do Cidadao.  You will have to register 
>> and obtain id and password.  I've been able to get all my certified copies 
>> this way but you will need some understanding of portuguese.  Order the 
>> long form, certified.  Because the birth year is 1900 it may not be 
>> available.  Check it out, link below.
>>
>>  https://www.portaldocidadao.pt/PORTAL/pt/certidoes_online/
>>
>> Recently my cousin was faced with the same problem but she visited the 
>> Consulate in Boston and gave them the photocopy of the record from the 
>> public archives.  Consulate accepted it saying it was fine and that they 
>> would get the certified copy.  Perhaps you want to try showing them what 
>> you have first before ordering it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>>> Manuel E.C.,
>>>
>>> I think for a certified record you may need to write to the Civil 
>>> Registry, unless the Biblioteca has some way to certify old records.  I 
>>> know we can get certified copies from them, but I don't know if they are 
>>> valid for your purpose.
>>>
>>> The Civil Registry for Ribeira Quente would be Povoacao.
>>> Conservatória do Registo Civil
>>> 9650 Povoação
>>> São Miguel, Açôres
>>> Portugal
>>>
>>> They may kick you back to the Biblioteca though.  
>>>
>>> When you are done with this project, start a new thread and list your 
>>> R.Quente families.  I have some lines from there.
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
>>> Tainhas, Achada 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] obtaining birth records

2014-02-08 Thread Manuel Costa
Thank you I have talked to the consulate in D.C. and mailed her a photo 
copy of the records I have. Its in the archives because it is a 1900 
record.I am waiting a reply.

On Saturday, February 8, 2014 4:53:15 PM UTC-6, Mara wrote:
>
> Manuel, 
>
> You can try first at the Portal do Cidadao.  You will have to register and 
> obtain id and password.  I've been able to get all my certified copies this 
> way but you will need some understanding of portuguese.  Order the long 
> form, certified.  Because the birth year is 1900 it may not be available. 
>  Check it out, link below.
>
>  https://www.portaldocidadao.pt/PORTAL/pt/certidoes_online/
>
> Recently my cousin was faced with the same problem but she visited the 
> Consulate in Boston and gave them the photocopy of the record from the 
> public archives.  Consulate accepted it saying it was fine and that they 
> would get the certified copy.  Perhaps you want to try showing them what 
> you have first before ordering it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Cheri Mello 
> > wrote:
>
>> Manuel E.C.,
>>
>> I think for a certified record you may need to write to the Civil 
>> Registry, unless the Biblioteca has some way to certify old records.  I 
>> know we can get certified copies from them, but I don't know if they are 
>> valid for your purpose.
>>
>> The Civil Registry for Ribeira Quente would be Povoacao.
>> Conservatória do Registo Civil
>> 9650 Povoação
>> São Miguel, Açôres
>> Portugal
>>
>> They may kick you back to the Biblioteca though.  
>>
>> When you are done with this project, start a new thread and list your 
>> R.Quente families.  I have some lines from there.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
>> Tainhas, Achada 
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] obtaining birth records

2014-02-08 Thread Ricardo Chaves
I have worked directly with Registo Civil by email, I don't know all of
them are able to do it, I sent data, asked price, asked IBAN , sent money,
they sent the paper copy to my address.

Its a PDF File

good luck!

http://www.nacionalidade.sef.pt/docs/CR_civil.pdf



On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 9:53 PM, Margaret Vicente
wrote:

> Manuel,
>
> You can try first at the Portal do Cidadao.  You will have to register and
> obtain id and password.  I've been able to get all my certified copies this
> way but you will need some understanding of portuguese.  Order the long
> form, certified.  Because the birth year is 1900 it may not be available.
>  Check it out, link below.
>
>  https://www.portaldocidadao.pt/PORTAL/pt/certidoes_online/
>
> Recently my cousin was faced with the same problem but she visited the
> Consulate in Boston and gave them the photocopy of the record from the
> public archives.  Consulate accepted it saying it was fine and that they
> would get the certified copy.  Perhaps you want to try showing them what
> you have first before ordering it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> Manuel E.C.,
>>
>> I think for a certified record you may need to write to the Civil
>> Registry, unless the Biblioteca has some way to certify old records.  I
>> know we can get certified copies from them, but I don't know if they are
>> valid for your purpose.
>>
>> The Civil Registry for Ribeira Quente would be Povoacao.
>> Conservatória do Registo Civil
>> 9650 Povoação
>> São Miguel, Açôres
>> Portugal
>>
>> They may kick you back to the Biblioteca though.
>>
>> When you are done with this project, start a new thread and list your
>> R.Quente families.  I have some lines from there.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] obtaining birth records

2014-02-08 Thread Margaret Vicente
Manuel,

You can try first at the Portal do Cidadao.  You will have to register and
obtain id and password.  I've been able to get all my certified copies this
way but you will need some understanding of portuguese.  Order the long
form, certified.  Because the birth year is 1900 it may not be available.
 Check it out, link below.

 https://www.portaldocidadao.pt/PORTAL/pt/certidoes_online/

Recently my cousin was faced with the same problem but she visited the
Consulate in Boston and gave them the photocopy of the record from the
public archives.  Consulate accepted it saying it was fine and that they
would get the certified copy.  Perhaps you want to try showing them what
you have first before ordering it.






On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Manuel E.C.,
>
> I think for a certified record you may need to write to the Civil
> Registry, unless the Biblioteca has some way to certify old records.  I
> know we can get certified copies from them, but I don't know if they are
> valid for your purpose.
>
> The Civil Registry for Ribeira Quente would be Povoacao.
> Conservatória do Registo Civil
> 9650 Povoação
> São Miguel, Açôres
> Portugal
>
> They may kick you back to the Biblioteca though.
>
> When you are done with this project, start a new thread and list your
> R.Quente families.  I have some lines from there.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] obtaining birth records

2014-02-08 Thread Manuel Costa
 Thank you
I have been to the civil registry and they forwarded me up to the 
Biblioteca  I have not figured out how to search their records. I have sent 
an email in Portuguese with my request.and wiating a reply 

On Saturday, February 8, 2014 2:20:45 PM UTC-6, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Manuel E.C.,
>
> I think for a certified record you may need to write to the Civil 
> Registry, unless the Biblioteca has some way to certify old records.  I 
> know we can get certified copies from them, but I don't know if they are 
> valid for your purpose.
>
> The Civil Registry for Ribeira Quente would be Povoacao.
> Conservatória do Registo Civil
> 9650 Povoação
> São Miguel, Açôres
> Portugal
>
> They may kick you back to the Biblioteca though.  
>
> When you are done with this project, start a new thread and list your 
> R.Quente families.  I have some lines from there.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada 
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] obtaining birth records

2014-02-08 Thread Cheri Mello
Manuel E.C.,

I think for a certified record you may need to write to the Civil Registry,
unless the Biblioteca has some way to certify old records.  I know we can
get certified copies from them, but I don't know if they are valid for your
purpose.

The Civil Registry for Ribeira Quente would be Povoacao.
Conservatória do Registo Civil
9650 Povoação
São Miguel, Açôres
Portugal

They may kick you back to the Biblioteca though.

When you are done with this project, start a new thread and list your
R.Quente families.  I have some lines from there.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] obtaining birth records

2014-02-08 Thread Manuel Costa
My father Manuel da Costa was born in Ribeira Quente Sao Miguel Azores July 
12 1900,. My daughters and I went there in 2006 and searched the church 
records and then to the library in Ponta Delgada. We made copies at that 
time. I am applying to become a Portugal national and register my parents 
marriage as required. 
The consulate is requesting a stamped copy of my fathers birth. I do not 
know how to apply for that record from the BIBL.PUBL.ARQUIVO REGIONAL PONTA 
DELGADA.

Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
Manuel E Costa   

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