RE: [backstage] bbc iplayer
http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Abbc.co.uk+iplayer+accessiblity Some interesting articles on there from the Access 2.0 blog, detailing some of testing and also naming the testing firm. J -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ~:'' Sent: 01 June 2007 08:23 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] bbc iplayer anyone working on or reviewing bbc iplayer Accessibility? cheers Jonathan Chetwynd - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Facebook Apps
Hey everyone I'm surprised no one has commented on this yet but I imagine I'm one of the younger members of this list, hence Facebook.. Anywho I was wondering what everyone thought about the sudden explosion of facebook applications, and whether anyone had written one, who is a member of this list. In light of the face we have just been talking about Google developer day, which I could not attend. Yours, --- Barry Carlyon Student Radio Association Regional Rep. North East/Yorkshire LUU Media Rep Webmaster LSRfm.com, Leeds Student, LUUBackstage, Action, BurnFM http://www.barrycarlyon.co.uk/ http://www.barrycarlyon.co.uk http://www.lsrfm.com http://www.lsrfm.com http://www.lsweb.org.uk http://www.lsweb.org.uk http://www.wbmfproductions.co.uk http://www.airebornetheatre.co.uk mobile: 07729048443 skype: barrycarlyon email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] live help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This Message Has Been Scanned by Norton And Contains the Views of Barry Carlyon ONLY
Re: [backstage] BBC Radio 7
Hi Gary, I'm not that close to the DAB side of things but I asked a few questions for you and so here are some answers: The main aim was to ensure all of our services are lumped together on DAB radios. Some radios default to listing by multiplex but the majority list stations in alphabetical order. So, the old Radio 1, 6 Music and 1 Xtra short names left these networks stranded away from the rest of the BBC family. By putting BBC and, in most cases, BBC R in front of everything we can ensure that all radios list our networks in one lump. The significance is that if your network is close to a popular (BBC) network (e.g. Radio 2) you can benefit from the audience wealth of your neighbour when people decide to browse around. It's a case of a few crumbs from the table but this could develop in to future loyal listening. Also, many people did not recognise some of our stations as BBC networks ... we weren't getting credit and they weren't getting the credibility associated with this. Being in consecutive order was not a major consideration just a logical by-product. ...to back that up I've heard mention of a recent study or two showing that our listeners do hold BBC Radio in high esteem as a brand so perhaps you can expect to see this kind of consistency rolling out elsewhere, hope that helps, Jamie. --- Jamie Tetlow Designer, Audio Music BBC Future Media Technology 718, Henry Wood House, W1B 3DF On 29/5/07 14:25, Gary Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last night I noticed my digital radio (The Bug) displayed BBC Radio 7 instead of the usual BBC 7. The shortcut also displayed as BBC R7, like Radio 4 does. I investigated and found 6music had also changed - BBC Radio 6 music. Why is this? Obviously it's a radio broadcast - it's a digital radio... BBC Radio 1 - 4 Five Five I understand, as, broadcast on traditional radio, have always been called this; 7 never has. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Google Gears
On 6/1/07, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I also wanted to get people views on Google Gears - Google Gears is an open source browser extension that lets developers create web applications that can run offline. http://code.google.com/apis/gears I've played with it for Google Reader. It's nice, and works pretty well (even though the initial sync, which you have to do manually, seems to take forever on my ADSL line at home). I might try it properly this evening on the tube home, in the vain hope that a thief steals my hateful Dell before I have to give it back. My Google Reader is always on 100+, so it would be good to cut it down a little. On a similar note, perhaps this is the benefit of the BBC's iPlayer, in that it works offline once you've downloaded the programmes. (If I've understood the literature correctly.) That would put it ahead of the likes of Joost / ITV / C4, for example, which requires a fast and reliable internet connection. James
RE: [backstage] BBC Radio 7
Thanks for the partyline response, I suppose it kinda makes sense from a grouping perspective... As long as the DJs on stations like 6Music aren't made to say BBC Radio 6 Music (which would sound really stupid) then overall I'm happy with the changes. -Original Message- From: Jamie Tetlow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 June 2007 10:57 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC Radio 7 Hi Gary, I'm not that close to the DAB side of things but I asked a few questions for you and so here are some answers: The main aim was to ensure all of our services are lumped together on DAB radios. Some radios default to listing by multiplex but the majority list stations in alphabetical order. So, the old Radio 1, 6 Music and 1 Xtra short names left these networks stranded away from the rest of the BBC family. By putting BBC and, in most cases, BBC R in front of everything we can ensure that all radios list our networks in one lump. The significance is that if your network is close to a popular (BBC) network (e.g. Radio 2) you can benefit from the audience wealth of your neighbour when people decide to browse around. It's a case of a few crumbs from the table but this could develop in to future loyal listening. Also, many people did not recognise some of our stations as BBC networks ... we weren't getting credit and they weren't getting the credibility associated with this. Being in consecutive order was not a major consideration just a logical by-product. ...to back that up I've heard mention of a recent study or two showing that our listeners do hold BBC Radio in high esteem as a brand so perhaps you can expect to see this kind of consistency rolling out elsewhere, hope that helps, Jamie. --- Jamie Tetlow Designer, Audio Music BBC Future Media Technology 718, Henry Wood House, W1B 3DF On 29/5/07 14:25, Gary Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last night I noticed my digital radio (The Bug) displayed BBC Radio 7 instead of the usual BBC 7. The shortcut also displayed as BBC R7, like Radio 4 does. I investigated and found 6music had also changed - BBC Radio 6 music. Why is this? Obviously it's a radio broadcast - it's a digital radio... BBC Radio 1 - 4 Five Five I understand, as, broadcast on traditional radio, have always been called this; 7 never has. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Weather annoyance
This is almost entirely irrelevant to the list purpose, but I thought I'd air a personal annoyance with the BBC Weather site. If I put in my postcode I end up with the weather for my town (Rayleigh) which is correct, but I only get a 5 day and not a 24h forecast. As both are taken from the same weather station at Shoebury, by manually searching for Shoebury I can get the 24h forecast there. Why does the system not pick up a 24h forecast for my postcode from Shoebury? I note on the FAQ for weather they state they extrapolate the 5 day from nearby weather stations, why not do the 24h too, or is this a question of additional load? If this is not possible, how about linking to the local weather station as opposed to just giving its long/lat (After all the postcoder must store long/lat to town name, and could be extended to link to those with 24h weather)? Any further explanation as to whether or not some form of simple solution is possible would be appreciated. Cheers, Stephen - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Facebook Apps
I'm in the process of writing one, getting some practice in with the platform just in case I go down this route during Hack Day. So far so good, once you've figured out the authentication signature. FBML is really useful, saves lots of lookup API calls you would otherwisae have to make. As with all of these things the facebook platform is only really as good as the applications built for it. Check out the docs and also this fairly hidden wiki... http://wiki.f8.facebook.com Chris On 04/06/07, Barry Carlyon (Webmaster LSRfm.com/LSweb.org.uk) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey everyone I'm surprised no one has commented on this yet but I imagine I'm one of the younger members of this list, hence Facebook…. Anywho I was wondering what everyone thought about the sudden explosion of facebook applications, and whether anyone had written one, who is a member of this list. In light of the face we have just been talking about Google developer day, which I could not attend… Yours, --- Barry Carlyon Student Radio Association Regional Rep. North East/Yorkshire LUU Media Rep Webmaster LSRfm.com, Leeds Student, LUUBackstage, Action, BurnFM http://www.barrycarlyon.co.uk http://www.lsrfm.com http://www.lsweb.org.uk *http://www.wbmfproductions.co.uk* *http://www.airebornetheatre.co.uk* mobile: 07729048443 skype: barrycarlyon email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] live help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This Message Has Been Scanned by Norton And Contains the Views of Barry Carlyon ONLY
RE: [backstage] Facebook Apps
I've not made an app yet, but I've become a pretty avid user of Facebook recently and have tried out a few apps. The problem at the moment seems to be that some of the popular apps (the Flickr one for instance) are developed by part timers and run off cheap shared hosting accounts. Not usually a problem for a mashup, but with the ridicious popularity of Facebook these limitations seem to be the cause errors and malfunctioning all over the show. Not very good. Seems they need to get with thier developer relations. Last.fm were a bit hacked (pun intended) off at not being in the early dev program... http://blog.last.fm/2007/05/31/lastfm-on-facebook J From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Carlyon (Webmaster LSRfm.com/LSweb.org.uk) Sent: 04 June 2007 10:30 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Facebook Apps Hey everyone I'm surprised no one has commented on this yet but I imagine I'm one of the younger members of this list, hence Facebook Anywho I was wondering what everyone thought about the sudden explosion of facebook applications, and whether anyone had written one, who is a member of this list. In light of the face we have just been talking about Google developer day, which I could not attend... Yours, --- Barry Carlyon Student Radio Association Regional Rep. North East/Yorkshire LUU Media Rep Webmaster LSRfm.com, Leeds Student, LUUBackstage, Action, BurnFM http://www.barrycarlyon.co.uk http://www.barrycarlyon.co.uk/ http://www.lsrfm.com http://www.lsrfm.com http://www.lsweb.org.uk http://www.lsweb.org.uk http://www.wbmfproductions.co.uk http://www.airebornetheatre.co.uk mobile: 07729048443 skype: barrycarlyon email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] live help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This Message Has Been Scanned by Norton And Contains the Views of Barry Carlyon ONLY
Re: [backstage] Google Gears
From what I've used of Joost it seems to keep some degree of data cached.. initial plays can result in the usual buffering issues etc, but subsequent replays seem to play a lot smoother and allow better seeking. Would be nice if it precached more though specifically after play and then pausing. James Cridland wrote: On 6/1/07, *Ian Forrester* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I also wanted to get people views on Google Gears - Google Gears is an open source browser extension that lets developers create web applications that can run offline. http://code.google.com/apis/gears http://code.google.com/apis/gears I've played with it for Google Reader. It's nice, and works pretty well (even though the initial sync, which you have to do manually, seems to take forever on my ADSL line at home). I might try it properly this evening on the tube home, in the vain hope that a thief steals my hateful Dell before I have to give it back. My Google Reader is always on 100+, so it would be good to cut it down a little. On a similar note, perhaps this is the benefit of the BBC's iPlayer, in that it works offline once you've downloaded the programmes. (If I've understood the literature correctly.) That would put it ahead of the likes of Joost / ITV / C4, for example, which requires a fast and reliable internet connection. James - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Google Gears
I have been playing with Google Gears too over the weekend. Now I can't decide between using Bloglines and Greatnews or Google Reader for my RSS reading? I did however notice that Google Reader with gears only stores about 1000 items which is enough for most people but I tend to store months of entries in GreatNews. Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ ] private; [ ] ask first; [ x ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Cridland Sent: 04 June 2007 11:46 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Google Gears On 6/1/07, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I also wanted to get people views on Google Gears - Google Gears is an open source browser extension that lets developers create web applications that can run offline. http://code.google.com/apis/gears I've played with it for Google Reader. It's nice, and works pretty well (even though the initial sync, which you have to do manually, seems to take forever on my ADSL line at home). I might try it properly this evening on the tube home, in the vain hope that a thief steals my hateful Dell before I have to give it back. My Google Reader is always on 100+, so it would be good to cut it down a little. On a similar note, perhaps this is the benefit of the BBC's iPlayer, in that it works offline once you've downloaded the programmes. (If I've understood the literature correctly.) That would put it ahead of the likes of Joost / ITV / C4, for example, which requires a fast and reliable internet connection. James
RE: [backstage] Weather annoyance
Maybe you might want to submit this as an backstage idea? ;) or create a prototype of how you would have it displayed? I'll certainly pass on your email. Cheers Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Miller Sent: 04 June 2007 12:01 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Weather annoyance This is almost entirely irrelevant to the list purpose, but I thought I'd air a personal annoyance with the BBC Weather site. If I put in my postcode I end up with the weather for my town (Rayleigh) which is correct, but I only get a 5 day and not a 24h forecast. As both are taken from the same weather station at Shoebury, by manually searching for Shoebury I can get the 24h forecast there. Why does the system not pick up a 24h forecast for my postcode from Shoebury? I note on the FAQ for weather they state they extrapolate the 5 day from nearby weather stations, why not do the 24h too, or is this a question of additional load? If this is not possible, how about linking to the local weather station as opposed to just giving its long/lat (After all the postcoder must store long/lat to town name, and could be extended to link to those with 24h weather)? Any further explanation as to whether or not some form of simple solution is possible would be appreciated. Cheers, Stephen - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Proposal for a new API source
Hi All, I've been thinking about what data you guys find useful and what data could be made available without getting rights clearance involved. Anyway, one thing the BBC does a lot of is RSS feeds. But there not exactly that useful for larger applications and prototypes because of lack of structure and partial nature (best way I can explain it). So how about we started to archive the RSS feeds into one large database, index them by time and date, slap a nice REST interface on them and let you guys have access to it? I imagine within a few months, you could data mine out keywords and trends. It would also make a great archive of the news at the time (suggesting we use BBC News, World Service and Sport feeds to start). Ideally in the future, you would all be able to add metadata around the original items, setup unique queries and copy the whole database. How's this sound because its something I think could be built quite easily. If people are interested I can go into the details later on the list. So what do you guys all think? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [] private; [] ask first; [ x ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Proposal for a new API source
That sounds like fun. It would be a nice research tool to pick out all the BBC News stories about a particular topic and see how it developed. Was it just the RSS feeds you wanted to stored? Because the See Also links on an news story page would be great to cross reference in the database. Is there any other story metadata floating about that could be incorporated as well? If it's easy(famous last words) then definitely build it. Sounds like a great idea to me. Daithi On 6/4/07, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I've been thinking about what data you guys find useful and what data could be made available without getting rights clearance involved. Anyway, one thing the BBC does a lot of is RSS feeds. But there not exactly that useful for larger applications and prototypes because of lack of structure and partial nature (best way I can explain it). So how about we started to archive the RSS feeds into one large database, index them by time and date, slap a nice REST interface on them and let you guys have access to it? I imagine within a few months, you could data mine out keywords and trends. It would also make a great archive of the news at the time (suggesting we use BBC News, World Service and Sport feeds to start). Ideally in the future, you would all be able to add metadata around the original items, setup unique queries and copy the whole database. How's this sound because its something I think could be built quite easily. If people are interested I can go into the details later on the list. So what do you guys all think? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [] private; [] ask first; [ x ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Getting Recipe Data
Been there once before a couple of years ago... iirc , every TV chef owns his/her rights to the recipes that appear in aggregate in the recipe db on bbc.co.uk/food So it's fearsomely complex (therefore expensive) to even begin clearing, presuming BBC could ever get the necessary rights from individual chefs, which is doubtful TBH. sorry... On 04/06/07, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good question, I don't think we had any plans although we are working on other data sets. But maybe food could be a nice little database which we could clear the rights to. Cheers Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [] private; [ ] ask first; [ x ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Young Sent: 04 June 2007 12:43 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Getting Recipe Data Hi, Is there any plan (or is it there and I just can't find it) to expose the recipe data which can be searched on in www.bbc.co.uk/food ? Cheers Rob - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Getting Recipe Data
might be nice to add hrecipe microformats in there tho if the data inside is structured enough to allow it -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Tom Loosemore Sent: Mon 6/4/2007 4:01 PM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Getting Recipe Data Been there once before a couple of years ago... iirc , every TV chef owns his/her rights to the recipes that appear in aggregate in the recipe db on bbc.co.uk/food So it's fearsomely complex (therefore expensive) to even begin clearing, presuming BBC could ever get the necessary rights from individual chefs, which is doubtful TBH. sorry... On 04/06/07, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good question, I don't think we had any plans although we are working on other data sets. But maybe food could be a nice little database which we could clear the rights to. Cheers Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [] private; [ ] ask first; [ x ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Young Sent: 04 June 2007 12:43 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Getting Recipe Data Hi, Is there any plan (or is it there and I just can't find it) to expose the recipe data which can be searched on in www.bbc.co.uk/food ? Cheers Rob - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ winmail.dat
Re: [backstage] Getting Recipe Data
Tom Loosemore wrote: Been there once before a couple of years ago... iirc , every TV chef owns his/her rights to the recipes that appear in aggregate in the recipe db on bbc.co.uk/food So it's fearsomely complex (therefore expensive) to even begin clearing, presuming BBC could ever get the necessary rights from individual chefs, which is doubtful TBH. sorry... How about a searchable rss feed or similar that returns links to the specific recipes. This would be useful in other areas like Top Gear review of cars where it might be useful to link directly to the information. Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Proposal for a new API source
Is there any way to add the physical locations (ie, latitude and longitude) so that you can search for 'local' stories too? For example, Sports reports would have the location of the stadium, News reports would list the relevant locations etc Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Forrester Sent: 04 June 2007 15:04 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Proposal for a new API source Hi All, I've been thinking about what data you guys find useful and what data could be made available without getting rights clearance involved. Anyway, one thing the BBC does a lot of is RSS feeds. But there not exactly that useful for larger applications and prototypes because of lack of structure and partial nature (best way I can explain it). So how about we started to archive the RSS feeds into one large database, index them by time and date, slap a nice REST interface on them and let you guys have access to it? I imagine within a few months, you could data mine out keywords and trends. It would also make a great archive of the news at the time (suggesting we use BBC News, World Service and Sport feeds to start). Ideally in the future, you would all be able to add metadata around the original items, setup unique queries and copy the whole database. How's this sound because its something I think could be built quite easily. If people are interested I can go into the details later on the list. So what do you guys all think? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [] private; [] ask first; [ x ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.7/830 - Release Date: 03/06/2007 12:47 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.7/830 - Release Date: 03/06/2007 12:47 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Getting Recipe Data
On 04/06/07, Adam Leach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Loosemore wrote: Been there once before a couple of years ago... iirc , every TV chef owns his/her rights to the recipes that appear in aggregate in the recipe db on bbc.co.uk/food So it's fearsomely complex (therefore expensive) to even begin clearing, presuming BBC could ever get the necessary rights from individual chefs, which is doubtful TBH. sorry... How about a searchable rss feed or similar that returns links to the specific recipes. This would be useful in other areas like Top Gear review of cars where it might be useful to link directly to the information. Adam oooh... now both of those are interesting ideas - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Proposal for a new API source
Ian Forrester wrote, reordered slightly:
So what do you guys all think?
Sounds like a great idea; especially as I've been doing this for the BBC
News front page (similar to the RSS feed, I guess) since 2005? :-)
I imagine within a few months, you could data mine out keywords and
trends.
You certainly could. :) Perhaps with a tag cloud:
http://www.dracos.co.uk/work/bbc-news-archive/tardis/tag-cloud/
Or watching how the word Iran is used over time:
http://www.dracos.co.uk/work/bbc-news-archive/tardis/search-headline/?s=iran
Or which pictures the BBC decides to illustrate stories about the Olympics:
http://www.dracos.co.uk/work/bbc-news-archive/tardis/image-search/?s=olympics
It would also make a great archive of the news at the time
Here's my archive of the front page of BBC News for the past 6 months or so:
http://www.dracos.co.uk/work/bbc-news-archive/archive.php
Ideally in the future, you would all be able to add metadata around the
original items, setup unique queries and copy the whole database.
Sadly, not sure I have the bandwidth for that. ;) You can create a unique
timeline of how an event appeared on the front page:
http://www.dracos.co.uk/work/bbc-news-archive/tardis/timeline/?t=Richard+Hammond%27s+crash
So how about we started to archive the RSS feeds into one large database,
index them by time and date, slap a nice REST interface on them and let
you guys have access to it?
Seems odd for you to have to export the data from somewhere it should
already be a database to RSS to import it back in again - perhaps public
read access to the actual BBC News content management database would be a
bit hard to justify. ;-) Apologies that my dataset doesn't have an API
beyond what's there; I'd be happy to add things if people asked (no-one ever
has :) ) and I had the time. But I can do database queries, e.g. what were
the BBC News front page main headlines on New Years Day 2006?
--8---
msbbc= select url,headline,start,description from headline where
date_trunc('day', start)='2006-01-01' and type='headline' order by start;
/1/hi/uk/4570980.stm | Revellers ready to welcome 2006 |
2006-01-01 00:00:00 | Millions in the UK prepare to see in the New Year,
while in London a Tube strike appears not to have caused chaos.
/1/hi/uk/4570980.stm | Revellers welcome 2006 across UK |
2006-01-01 00:05:00 | Millions in the UK celebrate the New Year, while in
London a Tube strike appears not to have caused chaos.
/1/hi/uk/4570980.stm | Revellers welcome 2006 across UK |
2006-01-01 04:35:00 | Millions in the UK celebrate the New Year, with
parties and spectacular firework displays in many cities.
/1/hi/health/4529762.stm | Rift over greater hospital choice |
2006-01-01 13:40:00 | People in England are given a choice of hospitals for
non-emergency surgery, but unions voice concerns.
/1/hi/world/europe/4573572.stm | Ukraine gas crisis 'could hit EU' |
2006-01-01 16:20:00 | Gas exports to the European Union could be hit by the
axeing of Russian supplies to Ukraine, officials say.
/1/hi/world/europe/4573572.stm | Ukraine gas row hits EU supplies |
2006-01-01 17:40:00 | EU countries start to suffer knock-on cuts in gas
imports as Russia axes supplies to Ukraine.
/1/hi/world/europe/4573572.stm | Ukraine gas row hits EU supplies |
2006-01-01 17:45:00 | EU countries start to suffer knock-on cuts in gas
imports as Russia axes supplies to Ukraine in a row over prices.
--8---
Might be useful to someone, you never know!
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ATB,
Matthew | http://www.dracos.co.uk/
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