RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query

2007-08-21 Thread Michael Smethurst 
we're currently in the process of speccing out the data feeds out of programme 
support

we've got definite plans for rss and atom and possibly json and maybe rdf (if 
our servers can take the strain)

would be interested to know any details of the stuff you'd like to see... the 
more use cases the better

cheers
michael


-Original Message-
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Sent: Mon 8/20/2007 7:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query
 
It was mainly programme data that I was after and any news/publicity stuff that 
the BBC has on the show (such as renewals and so on). I realise its a slightly 
different case that say Dr Who which you own so have a richer feed for. Also 
(runs for cover with tin helmet) any links to watch it again type thing in the 
feed (again if these exist). 

Also is there an image repository or a department to contact to get 
images/logos to use o a page (with the obvious mention of any pages not being 
official and copyright notices). 

I'm just having a play with a few things to get a feel for a small project that 
I want to run on my own site. 

Thanks for the other link, Carlos, I'll hook up to the feed tomorrow. More 
episode information would be good though. 

Ian, I'll probably have a better idea once I know what's on offer and what I 
can do with it. 

Iain

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From: Michael Smethurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, 20 August, 2007 3:53:44 PM
Subject: Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query

Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query



For programmes... Soon



And atom and, hopefully, rdf



Any more?





On 20/8/07 15:38, "Jason Cartwright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Hahahaha.



You do know that a very large proportion of pages from bbc.co.uk (rather than 
news.bbc.co.uk) are published by hand, right?



J





On 20/8/07 15:30, "Brian Butterworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



How about a generic RSS feed for every BBC page that is published?  



On 20/08/07, Carlos Roman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

There is always the Heroes Radio Show podcast

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml  
<http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml> 

Not much info about each episode in the feed though.

 

-C.



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Sent: 20 August 2007 14:16

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Subject: RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query



 

I'm not sure but I'll pass it on.

 

What kind of information were you hoping for?

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Subject: [backstage] RSS feeds query



 

A quick query. Will the BBC be producing any feeds for the Heroes website at 
all or BBC Three? Since the demise of the cult site, I'm trying to get the 
various bits of information together in RSS form as a bit of an experiment. 



Thanks, 



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Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query

2007-08-21 Thread Brian Butterworth 
On 21/08/07, Andrew Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  For images and such like, see
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediabank/
> which provides images and stuff for use on your own website.  (Terms and
> conditions apply.)
>

It's not kept very up to date though...


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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Iain Emsley
> *Sent:* 20 August 2007 19:59
> *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> *Subject:* Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query
>
>
>   It was mainly programme data that I was after and any news/publicity
> stuff that the BBC has on the show (such as renewals and so on). I realise
> its a slightly different case that say Dr Who which you own so have a richer
> feed for. Also (runs for cover with tin helmet) any links to watch it again
> type thing in the feed (again if these exist).
>
> Also is there an image repository or a department to contact to get
> images/logos to use o a page (with the obvious mention of any pages not
> being official and copyright notices).
>
> I'm just having a play with a few things to get a feel for a small project
> that I want to run on my own site.
>
> Thanks for the other link, Carlos, I'll hook up to the feed tomorrow. More
> episode information would be good though.
>
> Ian, I'll probably have a better idea once I know what's on offer and what
> I can do with it.
>
> Iain
>
> - Original Message ----
> From: Michael Smethurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> Sent: Monday, 20 August, 2007 3:53:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query
>
> For programmes... Soon
>
> And atom and, hopefully, rdf
>
> Any more?
>
>
> On 20/8/07 15:38, "Jason Cartwright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hahahaha.
>
> You do know that a very large proportion of pages from bbc.co.uk (rather
> than news.bbc.co.uk) are published by hand, right?
>
> J
>
>
> On 20/8/07 15:30, "Brian Butterworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> How about a generic RSS feed for every BBC page that is published?
>
> On 20/08/07, *Carlos Roman* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> There is always the Heroes Radio Show podcast
> http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml
> <http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml><http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml>
> Not much info about each episode in the feed though.
>
> -C.
>
>  --
> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> *On Behalf Of *Ian Forrester
> *Sent:* 20 August 2007 14:16
> *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> *Subject:* RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query
>
>
> I'm not sure but I'll pass it on.
>
> What kind of information were you hoping for?
> Ian Forrester
>
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> *On Behalf Of *Iain Emsley
> *Sent:* 20 August 2007 09:44
> *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> *Subject:* [backstage] RSS feeds query
>
>
> A quick query. Will the BBC be producing any feeds for the Heroes website
> at all or BBC Three? Since the demise of the cult site, I'm trying to get
> the various bits of information together in RSS form as a bit of an
> experiment.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Iain
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RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query

2007-08-21 Thread Andrew Bowden 
For images and such like, see 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediabank/
which provides images and stuff for use on your own website.  (Terms and
conditions apply.)




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iain Emsley
Sent: 20 August 2007 19:59
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query


It was mainly programme data that I was after and any
news/publicity stuff that the BBC has on the show (such as renewals and
so on). I realise its a slightly different case that say Dr Who which
you own so have a richer feed for. Also (runs for cover with tin helmet)
any links to watch it again type thing in the feed (again if these
exist). 

Also is there an image repository or a department to contact to
get images/logos to use o a page (with the obvious mention of any pages
not being official and copyright notices). 

I'm just having a play with a few things to get a feel for a
small project that I want to run on my own site. 

Thanks for the other link, Carlos, I'll hook up to the feed
tomorrow. More episode information would be good though. 

Ian, I'll probably have a better idea once I know what's on
offer and what I can do with it. 

Iain


- Original Message 
From: Michael Smethurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Sent: Monday, 20 August, 2007 3:53:44 PM
    Subject: Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query

For programmes... Soon

And atom and, hopefully, rdf

Any more?


On 20/8/07 15:38, "Jason Cartwright"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Hahahaha.

You do know that a very large proportion of pages from
bbc.co.uk (rather than news.bbc.co.uk) are published by hand, right?

J


On 20/8/07 15:30, "Brian Butterworth"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



How about a generic RSS feed for every BBC page
that is published?  

On 20/08/07, Carlos Roman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 


There is always the Heroes Radio Show
podcast

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml
<http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml>
<http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml>  
Not much info about each episode in the
feed though.

-C.






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<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] On Behalf Of Ian Forrester
Sent: 20 August 2007 14:16
        To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query

 
I'm not sure but I'll pass it on.

What kind of information were you hoping
for?
Ian Forrester

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first; [  ] bloggable

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<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] On Behalf Of Iain Emsley
Sent: 20 August 2007 09:44
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: [backstage] RSS feeds query

 
A quick query. Will the BBC be producing
any feeds for the Heroes website at all or BBC Three? Since the demise
of the cult site, I'm trying to get the various bits of information
together in RSS form as a bit of an experiment.

Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query

2007-08-21 Thread Iain Emsley 
I've found the Doctor Who feed but it doesn't seem to take into account any 
chance of the web, audio or videocasts - only the current seriues news. Bearing 
in mind the earlier conversation regarding updating the websites, are there any 
plans to addd the multimedia casts to the RSS feed (or alternatively is there  
on coming from the download site mentioned in the Heroes link that Carlos came 
up with - I kept getting 403 when I tried variations on the URL to try and find 
one)?

Iain

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To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Sent: Monday, 20 August, 2007 2:15:37 PM
Subject: RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query



 
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I'm not sure but I'll pass it on.

 

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Subject: [backstage] RSS feeds 
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  A quick query. Will the BBC be producing any feeds for the Heroes website 
  at all or BBC Three? Since the demise of the cult site, I'm trying to get the 
  various bits of information together in RSS form as a bit of an 
  experiment.

Thanks, 

Iain

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Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query

2007-08-20 Thread Iain Emsley 
It was mainly programme data that I was after and any news/publicity stuff that 
the BBC has on the show (such as renewals and so on). I realise its a slightly 
different case that say Dr Who which you own so have a richer feed for. Also 
(runs for cover with tin helmet) any links to watch it again type thing in the 
feed (again if these exist). 

Also is there an image repository or a department to contact to get 
images/logos to use o a page (with the obvious mention of any pages not being 
official and copyright notices). 

I'm just having a play with a few things to get a feel for a small project that 
I want to run on my own site. 

Thanks for the other link, Carlos, I'll hook up to the feed tomorrow. More 
episode information would be good though. 

Ian, I'll probably have a better idea once I know what's on offer and what I 
can do with it. 

Iain

- Original Message 
From: Michael Smethurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Sent: Monday, 20 August, 2007 3:53:44 PM
Subject: Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query

Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query



For programmes... Soon



And atom and, hopefully, rdf



Any more?





On 20/8/07 15:38, "Jason Cartwright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Hahahaha.



You do know that a very large proportion of pages from bbc.co.uk (rather than 
news.bbc.co.uk) are published by hand, right?



J





On 20/8/07 15:30, "Brian Butterworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



How about a generic RSS feed for every BBC page that is published?  



On 20/08/07, Carlos Roman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

There is always the Heroes Radio Show podcast

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml  
<http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml> 

Not much info about each episode in the feed though.

 

-C.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] 
On Behalf Of Ian Forrester

Sent: 20 August 2007 14:16

To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk

Subject: RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query



 

I'm not sure but I'll pass it on.

 

What kind of information were you hoping for?

Ian Forrester



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] 
On Behalf Of Iain Emsley

Sent: 20 August 2007 09:44

To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk

Subject: [backstage] RSS feeds query



 

A quick query. Will the BBC be producing any feeds for the Heroes website at 
all or BBC Three? Since the demise of the cult site, I'm trying to get the 
various bits of information together in RSS form as a bit of an experiment. 



Thanks, 



Iain



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RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query

2007-08-20 Thread Ian Forrester 
There's no doubt that a rss feed for logical queries like 
/worldservice/news/caribbean/weather/ would make a lot of sense but as Jason 
was highlighting, different parts of the BBC are at different stages and any 
pan BBC project to unite all would be troublesome at best. If you also times in 
the fact most people still don't fully get RSS any work in this area would be 
low on the priority list.
 
Now that's the negative side out the way.
 
Things will get better, our bbc 2.0 project will bring the cms's closer 
together or at least form a layer in between so it won't matter. Also the use 
of RSS is growing and with stuff like igoogle, particls, etc. We're seeing lots 
more use of RSS without it being asked for by name. RSS is becoming part of the 
fabric of the web.
 
And I just want to add RSS on a mobile phone with unlimited (1gig limit) is 
awesome.

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Butterworth
Sent: 20 August 2007 16:10
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
        Subject: Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query


On 20/08/07, Ian Forrester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

If I understand you Brian, you want a rss feed of every page 
published on the bbc domain?

 
 
Not every page!  
 
However, just picking one page at random, http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/ - 
this has no feed but seems to comprise of a number of stories.  My assumption 
is that you are using a CMS to do this - it wouldn't reduce the number of 
visitors to the site if there was an RSS feed, surely? 
 
As a big Drum and Bass fan then I would like a feed from 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/drumbass/ - if it were me doing this I would have a 
standard "rss.xml" file in each folder... 
 

That would be useful if you wanted a log of when a page has 
changed and when for example (meta about the page I guess) But for holding data 
I think the idea of using xhtml with lots of Microformats or rdf/a makes better 
sense. 

 
Yeah, but if you use iGoogle or similar to monitor sites, they are 
invisible without the RSS feeds!  
 
For example, I had no idea when the Guardian changed their "home page" 
design, because I never look at it - I use the RSS feeds from the sections I 
want (Media, Technology) so I can avoid the stuff I don't want (Sport etc). 

Also, RSS is very easy for search engines to index, and you don't get 
onto the "add stuff" buttons of iGoogle without an RSS feed.  Type in "drum and 
bass" for example and there's no 1Xtra (sorry, BBC Radio 1Xtra). 


 

 
Others may disagree, but I'm interested in why

 
The main reason I use iGoogle is that I have six or seven PCs that I 
use over the days - a few servers, PCs in different offices, laptops etc - 
iGoogle allows me to keep my stuff in one place and access it as I require. 
 

 

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<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth
Sent: 20 August 2007 15:31
    To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query

 

How about a generic RSS feed for every BBC page that is 
published?  


On 20/08/07, Carlos Roman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: 

There is always the Heroes Radio Show podcast

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml 
Not much info about each episode in the feed 
though.
 
-C.




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PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] On Behalf Of Ian Forrester
Sent: 20 August 2007 14:16

Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query

2007-08-20 Thread Brian Butterworth 
On 20/08/07, Ian Forrester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  If I understand you Brian, you want a rss feed of every page published on
> the bbc domain?
>


Not every page!

However, just picking one page at random, http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/ - this
has no feed but seems to comprise of a number of stories.  My assumption is
that you are using a CMS to do this - it wouldn't reduce the number of
visitors to the site if there was an RSS feed, surely?

As a big Drum and Bass fan then I would like a feed from
http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/drumbass/ - if it were me doing this I would have
a standard "rss.xml" file in each folder...


>  That would be useful if you wanted a log of when a page has changed and
> when for example (meta about the page I guess) But for holding data I think
> the idea of using xhtml with lots of Microformats or rdf/a makes better
> sense.
>

Yeah, but if you use iGoogle or similar to monitor sites, they are invisible
without the RSS feeds!

For example, I had no idea when the Guardian changed their "home page"
design, because I never look at it - I use the RSS feeds from the sections I
want (Media, Technology) so I can avoid the stuff I don't want (Sport etc).

Also, RSS is very easy for search engines to index, and you don't get onto
the "add stuff" buttons of iGoogle without an RSS feed.  Type in "drum and
bass" for example and there's no 1Xtra (sorry, BBC Radio 1Xtra).



>
> Others may disagree, but I'm interested in why
>

The main reason I use iGoogle is that I have six or seven PCs that I use
over the days - a few servers, PCs in different offices, laptops etc -
iGoogle allows me to keep my stuff in one place and access it as I require.




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> *Sent:* 20 August 2007 15:31
> *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> *Subject:* Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query
>
>
>  How about a generic RSS feed for every BBC page that is published?
>
> On 20/08/07, Carlos Roman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  There is always the Heroes Radio Show podcast
> > http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml
> > Not much info about each episode in the feed though.
> >
> > -C.
> >
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> > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > *On Behalf Of *Ian Forrester
> > *Sent:* 20 August 2007 14:16
> > *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> > *Subject:* RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query
> >
> >
> >  I'm not sure but I'll pass it on.
> >
> > What kind of information were you hoping for?
> >
> > Ian Forrester
> >
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> > *On Behalf Of *Iain Emsley
> > *Sent:* 20 August 2007 09:44
> > *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> > *Subject:* [backstage] RSS feeds query
> >
> >
> >  A quick query. Will the BBC be producing any feeds for the Heroes
> > website at all or BBC Three? Since the demise of the cult site, I'm trying
> > to get the various bits of information together in RSS form as a bit of an
> > experiment.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Iain
> >
> > www.yatterings.com
> >
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Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query

2007-08-20 Thread Jason Cartwright 
There are some screenscraping websites that will log changes to links in
pages. These could be modified to disregard links that are part of the BBC
page furniture, I suppose. Betsie does this, kind of, to a degree...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/education/betsie/ (Warning: very, very old page)

Of course, getting the content in state whereby it could be outputted to
different formats is the place to start. This is happening, slowly.

J 


On 20/8/07 15:52, "Ian Forrester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If I understand you Brian, you want a rss feed of every page published on the
> bbc domain?
>  
> That would be useful if you wanted a log of when a page has changed and when
> for example (meta about the page I guess) But for holding data I think the
> idea of using xhtml with lots of Microformats or rdf/a makes better sense.
>  
> Others may disagree, but I'm interested in why
> Ian Forrester
> 
> This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [  ] ask first; [  ] bloggable
> 
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>  
> 
>>  
>>  
>> 
>>  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian  Butterworth
>> Sent: 20 August 2007 15:31
>> To:  backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
>> Subject: Re: [backstage] RSS feeds  query
>> 
>>  
>> How about a generic RSS feed for every BBC page that is  published?
>> 
>>  
>> On 20/08/07, Carlos  Roman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
>>>  
>>>  
>>> There is always the Heroes  Radio Show podcast
>>>  
>>> http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml
>>> <http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml>
>>>  
>>> Not much info about each  episode in the feed though.
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> -C.
>>> 
>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>>>> On Behalf Of Ian  Forrester
>>>> Sent: 20 August 2007 14:16
>>>> To:  backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
>>>> Subject: RE:  [backstage] RSS feeds query
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> I'm  not sure but I'll pass it on.
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> What kind of information  were you hoping for?
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Ian Forrester
>>>> 
>>>> This e-mail is: [ x ] private;  [  ] ask first; [  ] bloggable
>>>> 
>>>> Senior Producer, BBC  Backstage
>>>> BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP
>>>> e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> p: +44  (0)2080083965
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>>  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Iain  Emsley
>>>>> Sent: 20 August 2007 09:44
>>>>> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
>>>>> Subject:  [backstage] RSS feeds query
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> A quick query. Will the BBC be producing any feeds for the Heroes  website
>>>>> at all or BBC Three? Since the demise of the cult site, I'm  trying to get
>>>>> the various bits of information together in RSS form as a  bit of an
>>>>> experiment. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Iain
>>>>> 
>>>>> www.yatterings.com <http://www.yatterings.com/>
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
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>>

RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query

2007-08-20 Thread Dylan Dawes 
I've worked on a number of BBC sites in a content capacity and I have to
say the number of times just the sites I've worked on have re-published
large numbers of pages (or elements of pages) with just micro-changes
(sometimes not even visible ones, ie meta-data) is immense.
So I would question whether a feed of all pages that have recently
changed would be of much value, other than for statistical purposes.
 
Unless you introduce ways of splicing or specifying within the dataset
of course; then you could focus on areas that might get results that
would of use.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Forrester
Sent: 20 August 2007 15:52
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query


If I understand you Brian, you want a rss feed of every page published
on the bbc domain?
 
That would be useful if you wanted a log of when a page has changed and
when for example (meta about the page I guess) But for holding data I
think the idea of using xhtml with lots of Microformats or rdf/a makes
better sense.
 
Others may disagree, but I'm interested in why

Ian Forrester

This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [  ] ask first; [  ] bloggable

Senior Producer, BBC Backstage
BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP
e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
p: +44 (0)2080083965


 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth
Sent: 20 August 2007 15:31
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
        Subject: Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query


How about a generic RSS feed for every BBC page that is
published?  


On 20/08/07, Carlos Roman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

There is always the Heroes Radio Show podcast
http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml 
Not much info about each episode in the feed though.
 
-C.




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
] On Behalf Of Ian Forrester
Sent: 20 August 2007 14:16
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
            Subject: RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query

 

I'm not sure but I'll pass it on.
 
What kind of information were you hoping for?

Ian Forrester

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] bloggable

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7TP
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] On Behalf Of Iain Emsley
Sent: 20 August 2007 09:44
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: [backstage] RSS feeds query

 
A quick query. Will the BBC be producing
any feeds for the Heroes website at all or BBC Three? Since the demise
of the cult site, I'm trying to get the various bits of information
together in RSS form as a bit of an experiment. 

Thanks, 

Iain

www.yatterings.com
<http://www.yatterings.com/> 
 



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Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query

2007-08-20 Thread Michael Smethurst 
For programmes... Soon

And atom and, hopefully, rdf

Any more?


On 20/8/07 15:38, "Jason Cartwright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hahahaha.
> 
> You do know that a very large proportion of pages from bbc.co.uk (rather than
> news.bbc.co.uk) are published by hand, right?
> 
> J
> 
> 
> On 20/8/07 15:30, "Brian Butterworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> How about a generic RSS feed for every BBC page that is published?
>> 
>> On 20/08/07, Carlos Roman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> There is always the Heroes Radio Show podcast
>>> http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml
>>> <http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml>
>>> Not much info about each episode in the feed though.
>>>  
>>> -C.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>>>> On Behalf Of Ian Forrester
>>>> Sent: 20 August 2007 14:16
>>>> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
>>>> Subject: RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> I'm not sure but I'll pass it on.
>>>>  
>>>> What kind of information were you hoping for?
>>>> Ian Forrester
>>>> 
>>>> This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [  ] ask first; [  ] bloggable
>>>> 
>>>> Senior Producer, BBC Backstage
>>>> BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP
>>>> e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> p: +44 (0)2080083965
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Iain Emsley
>>>>> Sent: 20 August 2007 09:44
>>>>> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
>>>>> Subject: [backstage] RSS feeds query
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> A quick query. Will the BBC be producing any feeds for the Heroes website
>>>>> at all or BBC Three? Since the demise of the cult site, I'm trying to get
>>>>> the various bits of information together in RSS form as a bit of an
>>>>> experiment. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Iain
>>>>> 
>>>>> www.yatterings.com <http://www.yatterings.com/>
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now
>>>>> <http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTEydmViNG02BF9TAzIxMTQ3MTcxOTAEc2V
>>>>> jA21haWwEc2xrA3RhZ2xpbmU> .
>> 
>> 
> 
>

RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query

2007-08-20 Thread Ian Forrester 
If I understand you Brian, you want a rss feed of every page published on the 
bbc domain?
 
That would be useful if you wanted a log of when a page has changed and when 
for example (meta about the page I guess) But for holding data I think the idea 
of using xhtml with lots of Microformats or rdf/a makes better sense.
 
Others may disagree, but I'm interested in why

Ian Forrester

This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [  ] ask first; [  ] bloggable

Senior Producer, BBC Backstage
BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP
e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
p: +44 (0)2080083965


 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian 
Butterworth
Sent: 20 August 2007 15:31
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query


How about a generic RSS feed for every BBC page that is published?  


On 20/08/07, Carlos Roman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

There is always the Heroes Radio Show podcast
http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml 
Not much info about each episode in the feed though.
 
-C.




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] On Behalf Of Ian Forrester
Sent: 20 August 2007 14:16
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
        Subject: RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query

 

I'm not sure but I'll pass it on.
 
What kind of information were you hoping for?

Ian Forrester

This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [  ] ask first; [  ] 
bloggable

Senior Producer, BBC Backstage
BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP
e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
p: +44 (0)2080083965


 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] On Behalf Of Iain Emsley
Sent: 20 August 2007 09:44
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: [backstage] RSS feeds query

 
A quick query. Will the BBC be producing any 
feeds for the Heroes website at all or BBC Three? Since the demise of the cult 
site, I'm trying to get the various bits of information together in RSS form as 
a bit of an experiment. 

Thanks, 

Iain

www.yatterings.com <http://www.yatterings.com/> 
 



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Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query

2007-08-20 Thread Jason Cartwright 
Hahahaha.

You do know that a very large proportion of pages from bbc.co.uk (rather
than news.bbc.co.uk) are published by hand, right?

J


On 20/8/07 15:30, "Brian Butterworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> How about a generic RSS feed for every BBC page that is published?
> 
> On 20/08/07, Carlos Roman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> There is always the Heroes Radio Show podcast
>> http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml
>> <http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml>
>> Not much info about each episode in the feed though.
>>  
>> -C.
>> 
>>> 
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>>> On Behalf Of Ian Forrester
>>> Sent: 20 August 2007 14:16
>>> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
>>> Subject: RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query
>>> 
>>>  
>>> I'm not sure but I'll pass it on.
>>>  
>>> What kind of information were you hoping for?
>>> Ian Forrester
>>> 
>>> This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [  ] ask first; [  ] bloggable
>>> 
>>> Senior Producer, BBC Backstage
>>> BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP
>>> e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> p: +44 (0)2080083965
>>>  
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>>>> On Behalf Of Iain Emsley
>>>> Sent: 20 August 2007 09:44
>>>> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
>>>> Subject: [backstage] RSS feeds query
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> A quick query. Will the BBC be producing any feeds for the Heroes website
>>>> at all or BBC Three? Since the demise of the cult site, I'm trying to get
>>>> the various bits of information together in RSS form as a bit of an
>>>> experiment. 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks, 
>>>> 
>>>> Iain
>>>> 
>>>> www.yatterings.com <http://www.yatterings.com/>
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> A21haWwEc2xrA3RhZ2xpbmU> .
> 
>

Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query

2007-08-20 Thread Brian Butterworth 
How about a generic RSS feed for every BBC page that is published?

On 20/08/07, Carlos Roman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  There is always the Heroes Radio Show podcast
> http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml
> Not much info about each episode in the feed though.
>
> -C.
>
>  --
> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Ian Forrester
> *Sent:* 20 August 2007 14:16
> *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> *Subject:* RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query
>
>
>  I'm not sure but I'll pass it on.
>
> What kind of information were you hoping for?
>
> Ian Forrester
>
> This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [  ] ask first; [  ] bloggable
>
> Senior Producer, BBC Backstage
> BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP
> e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> p: +44 (0)2080083965
>
>
>  --
> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Iain Emsley
> *Sent:* 20 August 2007 09:44
> *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> *Subject:* [backstage] RSS feeds query
>
>
>  A quick query. Will the BBC be producing any feeds for the Heroes website
> at all or BBC Three? Since the demise of the cult site, I'm trying to get
> the various bits of information together in RSS form as a bit of an
> experiment.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Iain
>
> www.yatterings.com
>
>
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RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query

2007-08-20 Thread Carlos Roman 
There is always the Heroes Radio Show podcast
http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml
Not much info about each episode in the feed though.
 
-C.




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Forrester
Sent: 20 August 2007 14:16
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query


I'm not sure but I'll pass it on.
 
What kind of information were you hoping for?

Ian Forrester

This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [  ] ask first; [  ] bloggable

Senior Producer, BBC Backstage
BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP
e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
p: +44 (0)2080083965


 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iain Emsley
Sent: 20 August 2007 09:44
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: [backstage] RSS feeds query


A quick query. Will the BBC be producing any feeds for
the Heroes website at all or BBC Three? Since the demise of the cult
site, I'm trying to get the various bits of information together in RSS
form as a bit of an experiment.

Thanks, 

Iain

www.yatterings.com




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RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query

2007-08-20 Thread Ian Forrester 
I'm not sure but I'll pass it on.
 
What kind of information were you hoping for?

Ian Forrester

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iain 
Emsley
Sent: 20 August 2007 09:44
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: [backstage] RSS feeds query


A quick query. Will the BBC be producing any feeds for the Heroes 
website at all or BBC Three? Since the demise of the cult site, I'm trying to 
get the various bits of information together in RSS form as a bit of an 
experiment.

Thanks, 

Iain

www.yatterings.com




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