Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Rob Gerber]

There should be a link saying to click "here" in the middle of the page
that you are redirected to after entering your information.

The email has been broken on and off for a while now. I actually thought it
was fixed.

Robert Gerber
402-237-8692
r...@craeon.net

On Mon, Feb 26, 2024, 2:06 PM Aimé Bamo  wrote:

> I'm unable to receive the sent mail to download Bacula
> ___
> Bacula-users mailing list
> Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
>
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Bill Arlofski via Bacula-users]

On 6/7/23 10:21, Samantha Falconer wrote:
We're running Bacula v13.0.1.  Some of our backups are to S3 which then go to Glacier after a set period of time.  When doing 
restores from S3, the necessary file is downloaded automatically from S3 but, if it involves Glacier, it appears that no 
attempt is made to retrieve the file. Bacula just sits waiting for the part file, so we have to actually manually initiate 
the retrieval from Glacier and then Bacula continues once the part file has appeared in S3. 
https://www.bacula.org/13.0.x-manuals/en/main/Storage_Daemon_Configuratio.html 
 seems to indicate that Bacula works with AWS 
Glacier as it states:


Transfer Priority = 
When restoring directly a part from Glacier, this directive indicates the 
rehydration priority level. Values can be High,
Medium or Low. Default is High. Those values match respectively Expeditive, 
Standard and Bulk transfers tiers within S3.


We configured Transfer Priority = "Low" so we expected it to use the Bulk transfer tier - see 
https://docs.aws.amazon.com/amazonglacier/latest/dev/downloading-an-archive-two-steps.html 
.  Is Bacula capable of 
initiating the Glacier restore?  Or is that config (Transfer Priority) not what we thought?


Hello Samantha,

As far as I know, only the S3 plugin has been ported from the Enterprise 
edition to the Community edition.

In the Enterprise edition, there is an additional 'Glacier' plugin which automatically handles these transfers from Glacier 
back to the S3 bucket.


I have a strong feeling this is the issue you are experiencing here.


Best regards,
Bill

--
Bill Arlofski
w...@protonmail.com



signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Craig Shiroma]

Hi Phil,

I apologize for such a tardy reply.

Yes, we are using InnoDB.  As far as I know we are configured correctly.
However, what do you recommend are the most important configuration items
to look at?

Thank you for the help!
-craig

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 4:19 AM, Phil Stracchino 
wrote:

> On 09/15/15 04:24, Craig Shiroma wrote:
> > Yes, the database is large.  The File table has 370+ million records and
> > Bacula is pruning.  I'll see what we can do with mysqltuner.  I have a
> > feeling I'm occasionally getting the timeout error because there are so
> > many records.  If I can't find a cure for the situation, I'm thinking of
> > splitting up our backups using two catalog servers -- one for production
> > and one for test/dev.  Do you think this is wise?
>
>
> Are you using InnoDB?  Are you properly configured for InnoDB?  If not,
> you should be.  MyISAM tables really should not be used in production
> any more, and Oracle is moving towards deprecating the MyISAM engine.
>
> I've also occasionally pondered whether partitioning certain tables -
> notably the File table - would benefit Bacula.
>
>
> --
>   Phil Stracchino
>   Babylon Communications
>   ph...@caerllewys.net
>   p...@co.ordinate.org
>   Landline: 603.293.8485
>
>
> --
> ___
> Bacula-users mailing list
> Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
>
--
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Phil Stracchino]

On 09/25/15 14:00, Craig Shiroma wrote:
> Hi Phil,
> 
> I apologize for such a tardy reply.
> 
> Yes, we are using InnoDB.  As far as I know we are configured
> correctly.  However, what do you recommend are the most important
> configuration items to look at?

Principal items I would check:

- Make sure innodb_buffer_pool_size is adequate
- Make sure innodb_buffer-pool_instances is set appropriately
- Make sure innodb_io_capacity is set appropriately for your storage
device(s)
- Set innodb_autoinc_lock_mode = 2
- Set innodb_flush_log_at_trx_commit = 2
- Set innodb_stats_on_metadata = 0
- innodb_log_file_size should be set to at least 50M



-- 
  Phil Stracchino
  Babylon Communications
  ph...@caerllewys.net
  p...@co.ordinate.org
  Landline: 603.293.8485

--
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Craig Shiroma]

Thank you, Phil!  I'll ask our DBA to verify that these setting are set to
what they should be.

I appreciate the help!

-craig

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Phil Stracchino 
wrote:

> On 09/25/15 14:00, Craig Shiroma wrote:
> > Hi Phil,
> >
> > I apologize for such a tardy reply.
> >
> > Yes, we are using InnoDB.  As far as I know we are configured
> > correctly.  However, what do you recommend are the most important
> > configuration items to look at?
>
> Principal items I would check:
>
> - Make sure innodb_buffer_pool_size is adequate
> - Make sure innodb_buffer-pool_instances is set appropriately
> - Make sure innodb_io_capacity is set appropriately for your storage
> device(s)
> - Set innodb_autoinc_lock_mode = 2
> - Set innodb_flush_log_at_trx_commit = 2
> - Set innodb_stats_on_metadata = 0
> - innodb_log_file_size should be set to at least 50M
>
>
>
> --
>   Phil Stracchino
>   Babylon Communications
>   ph...@caerllewys.net
>   p...@co.ordinate.org
>   Landline: 603.293.8485
>
>
> --
> ___
> Bacula-users mailing list
> Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
>
--
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Craig Shiroma]

Hi Ana and Phil,

I'm a bit tied up with some important tasks right now and have not been
able to get the info you're asking for.  I apologize for the delay.  I will
reply soon.

Thanks for the help,
-craig

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 4:19 AM, Phil Stracchino 
wrote:

> On 09/15/15 04:24, Craig Shiroma wrote:
> > Yes, the database is large.  The File table has 370+ million records and
> > Bacula is pruning.  I'll see what we can do with mysqltuner.  I have a
> > feeling I'm occasionally getting the timeout error because there are so
> > many records.  If I can't find a cure for the situation, I'm thinking of
> > splitting up our backups using two catalog servers -- one for production
> > and one for test/dev.  Do you think this is wise?
>
>
> Are you using InnoDB?  Are you properly configured for InnoDB?  If not,
> you should be.  MyISAM tables really should not be used in production
> any more, and Oracle is moving towards deprecating the MyISAM engine.
>
> I've also occasionally pondered whether partitioning certain tables -
> notably the File table - would benefit Bacula.
>
>
> --
>   Phil Stracchino
>   Babylon Communications
>   ph...@caerllewys.net
>   p...@co.ordinate.org
>   Landline: 603.293.8485
>
>
> --
> ___
> Bacula-users mailing list
> Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
>
--
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Craig Shiroma]

Hi Ana,

Thanks again for the help!

Yes, the database is large.  The File table has 370+ million records and
Bacula is pruning.  I'll see what we can do with mysqltuner.  I have a
feeling I'm occasionally getting the timeout error because there are so
many records.  If I can't find a cure for the situation, I'm thinking of
splitting up our backups using two catalog servers -- one for production
and one for test/dev.  Do you think this is wise?  Currently, our DBAs
don't support Postgres so it may not be an option.  Would Oracle be an
option instead?

I'll have to check on the "--enable-batch-insert" option.  Is there a
Bacula command to see what options Bacula was built with?  I did not set up
our installation and am new to Bacula.

Would you have any idea why a new duplicate job is starting when one was
rescheduled?  I looked over the configs I know about, but could not find an
option that starts a new job given any situation.  At least the job will
have two more chances to run if I can prevent the new dup. job from
starting when the lock is detected.  I know that won't cure the database
problem, but I have a feeling the jobs might complete successfully on the
rescheduled tries (thinking the lock will be gone by then) until the DB can
be tuned.

Warmest regards,
-craig

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Ana Emília M. Arruda <
emiliaarr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Craig,
>
> You're welcome! I hope give you some tips here. It seems you have a
> database tunning issue because of "Lock wait timeout exceeded; try
> restarting transaction". I'm not sure about your database size, but based
> on your JobIds, it seems large. You can try http://mysqltuner.com/  if
> you're using MySQL. If you have a really large database, you can think
> about migrating to PostgreSQL if tunning of MySQL do not solve this problem.
>
> Have you build your bacula with "--enable-batch-insert" option? This is a
> good idea when dealing with large number of files.
>
> Best regards,
> Ana
>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 12:40 AM, Craig Shiroma  > wrote:
>
>> Hi Ana,
>>
>> I'm using 7.0.5.  Thanks for the help!
>>
>> -craig
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Ana Emília M. Arruda <
>> emiliaarr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Craig,
>>>
>>> Which Bacula version are you using?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Ana
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Craig Shiroma <
>>> shiroma.crai...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 My apologies.  I hit the send button before entering a subject.

 On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Craig Shiroma <
 shiroma.crai...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I'm getting the following problem occasionally:
> 2015-09-10 23:47:24bacula-dir JobId 140080: Fatal error: JobId 139901
> already running. Duplicate job not allowed.
>
> Due to this type of error:
> 2015-09-10 23:47:22bacula-dir JobId 139901: Fatal error:
> sql_create.c:870 Fill File table Query failed: INSERT INTO File 
> (FileIndex,
> JobId, PathId, FilenameId, LStat, MD5, DeltaSeq) SELECT batch.FileIndex,
> batch.JobId, Path.PathId, Filename.FilenameId,batch.LStat, batch.MD5,
> batch.DeltaSeq FROM batch JOIN Path ON (batch.Path = Path.Path) JOIN
> Filename ON (batch.Name = Filename.Name): ERR=Lock wait timeout exceeded;
> try restarting transaction
>
> This happens when a database lock has timed out on a backup and the
> job is rescheduled.  For some reason, it seems a new job is starting up as
> soon as the error is detected.  I posted about this issue earlier and
> someone mentioned it is happening because I configured Bacula to do that
> (or at least that's the impression I got from the post).  Would anyone 
> know
> which config would have the setting to start up a new job for the client
> backup when an error like a lock is detected?  So far, I've only found
> settings for rescheduling, not restarting such as below:
>
>Reschedule Interval = 1 hour
> Reschedule Times = 3
> Cancel Lower Level Duplicates = yes
> Allow Duplicate Jobs = no
>
> Obviously, the backup is getting canceled because of the last two
> settings above.  But, what setting is causing a new job to be created when
> I get a lock timeout error is detected that says it has rescheduled the 
> job
> for 3600 minutes later?
>
> I realize it appears I may need to do some database fixing/turning.
> But, my immediate wonder is why a new job is being created when one has
> been rescheduled?
>
> Regards,
> -craig
>



 --

 ___
 Bacula-users mailing list
 Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users


>>>
>>
>

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Ana Emília M . Arruda]

Hello Craig,

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 5:24 AM, Craig Shiroma 
wrote:

> Hi Ana,
>
> Thanks again for the help!
>

> Yes, the database is large.  The File table has 370+ million records and
> Bacula is pruning.  I'll see what we can do with mysqltuner.  I have a
> feeling I'm occasionally getting the timeout error because there are so
> many records.  If I can't find a cure for the situation, I'm thinking of
> splitting up our backups using two catalog servers -- one for production
> and one for test/dev.  Do you think this is wise?  Currently, our DBAs
> don't support Postgres so it may not be an option.  Would Oracle be an
> option instead?
>

​No. Even the Enterprise version only have support for Catalog in MySQL,
PostegreSQL and SQLite​ databases. If you do not have success with tunning
or a migration to PostegreSQL is not feasible, yes, maybe spliting catalog
is a good idea. Maybe if you can prune more Files (keeping jobs and
volumes, but not files). The File table grows rapidily with large number of
files if they are not pruned properly.


>
> I'll have to check on the "--enable-batch-insert" option.  Is there a
> Bacula command to see what options Bacula was built with?  I did not set up
> our installation and am new to Bacula.
>

​If you still have the source installation directory, you will have this
information in the bacula-7.0.5/config.out file, "Batch insert ​enabled
line. I'm quite sure this defaults to yes. So I think you have your bacula
build with batch insert enabled.


> Would you have any idea why a new duplicate job is starting when one was
> rescheduled?  I looked over the configs I know about, but could not find an
> option that starts a new job given any situation.  At least the job will
> have two more chances to run if I can prevent the new dup. job from
> starting when the lock is detected.  I know that won't cure the database
> problem, but I have a feeling the jobs might complete successfully on the
> rescheduled tries (thinking the lock will be gone by then) until the DB can
> be tuned.
>

​It seems that JobId 140080 was scheduled to start but ​this was not
possible because JobId 139901 didn't finish (with or without error) due to
the MySQL error. So, I suppose (don't know your schedule is) that you have
the second job was not started because of the rescheduled, but because it
was in your schedule. Also, a job will only be rescheduled if it fails, and
it seems that it is not the case of JobId 139901: it was still running with
that MySQL error. Could you confirm this please? With your schedule
definitions?

Best regards,
Ana


>
> Warmest regards,
> -craig
>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Ana Emília M. Arruda <
> emiliaarr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Craig,
>>
>> You're welcome! I hope give you some tips here. It seems you have a
>> database tunning issue because of "Lock wait timeout exceeded; try
>> restarting transaction". I'm not sure about your database size, but based
>> on your JobIds, it seems large. You can try http://mysqltuner.com/  if
>> you're using MySQL. If you have a really large database, you can think
>> about migrating to PostgreSQL if tunning of MySQL do not solve this problem.
>>
>> Have you build your bacula with "--enable-batch-insert" option? This is a
>> good idea when dealing with large number of files.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Ana
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 12:40 AM, Craig Shiroma <
>> shiroma.crai...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ana,
>>>
>>> I'm using 7.0.5.  Thanks for the help!
>>>
>>> -craig
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Ana Emília M. Arruda <
>>> emiliaarr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hello Craig,

 Which Bacula version are you using?

 Best regards,
 Ana

 On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Craig Shiroma <
 shiroma.crai...@gmail.com> wrote:

> My apologies.  I hit the send button before entering a subject.
>
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Craig Shiroma <
> shiroma.crai...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I'm getting the following problem occasionally:
>> 2015-09-10 23:47:24bacula-dir JobId 140080: Fatal error: JobId 139901
>> already running. Duplicate job not allowed.
>>
>> Due to this type of error:
>> 2015-09-10 23:47:22bacula-dir JobId 139901: Fatal error:
>> sql_create.c:870 Fill File table Query failed: INSERT INTO File 
>> (FileIndex,
>> JobId, PathId, FilenameId, LStat, MD5, DeltaSeq) SELECT batch.FileIndex,
>> batch.JobId, Path.PathId, Filename.FilenameId,batch.LStat,
>> batch.MD5, batch.DeltaSeq FROM batch JOIN Path ON (batch.Path = 
>> Path.Path)
>> JOIN Filename ON (batch.Name = Filename.Name): ERR=Lock wait timeout
>> exceeded; try restarting transaction
>>
>> This happens when a database lock has timed out on a backup and the
>> job is rescheduled.  For some reason, it seems a new job is starting up 
>> as
>> soon as the error is detected. 

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Phil Stracchino]

On 09/15/15 04:24, Craig Shiroma wrote:
> Yes, the database is large.  The File table has 370+ million records and
> Bacula is pruning.  I'll see what we can do with mysqltuner.  I have a
> feeling I'm occasionally getting the timeout error because there are so
> many records.  If I can't find a cure for the situation, I'm thinking of
> splitting up our backups using two catalog servers -- one for production
> and one for test/dev.  Do you think this is wise?


Are you using InnoDB?  Are you properly configured for InnoDB?  If not,
you should be.  MyISAM tables really should not be used in production
any more, and Oracle is moving towards deprecating the MyISAM engine.

I've also occasionally pondered whether partitioning certain tables -
notably the File table - would benefit Bacula.


-- 
  Phil Stracchino
  Babylon Communications
  ph...@caerllewys.net
  p...@co.ordinate.org
  Landline: 603.293.8485

--
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Ana Emília M . Arruda]

Hello Craig,

You're welcome! I hope give you some tips here. It seems you have a
database tunning issue because of "Lock wait timeout exceeded; try
restarting transaction". I'm not sure about your database size, but based
on your JobIds, it seems large. You can try http://mysqltuner.com/  if
you're using MySQL. If you have a really large database, you can think
about migrating to PostgreSQL if tunning of MySQL do not solve this problem.

Have you build your bacula with "--enable-batch-insert" option? This is a
good idea when dealing with large number of files.

Best regards,
Ana

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 12:40 AM, Craig Shiroma 
wrote:

> Hi Ana,
>
> I'm using 7.0.5.  Thanks for the help!
>
> -craig
>
> On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Ana Emília M. Arruda <
> emiliaarr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Craig,
>>
>> Which Bacula version are you using?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Ana
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Craig Shiroma > > wrote:
>>
>>> My apologies.  I hit the send button before entering a subject.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Craig Shiroma <
>>> shiroma.crai...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hello All,

 I'm getting the following problem occasionally:
 2015-09-10 23:47:24bacula-dir JobId 140080: Fatal error: JobId 139901
 already running. Duplicate job not allowed.

 Due to this type of error:
 2015-09-10 23:47:22bacula-dir JobId 139901: Fatal error:
 sql_create.c:870 Fill File table Query failed: INSERT INTO File (FileIndex,
 JobId, PathId, FilenameId, LStat, MD5, DeltaSeq) SELECT batch.FileIndex,
 batch.JobId, Path.PathId, Filename.FilenameId,batch.LStat, batch.MD5,
 batch.DeltaSeq FROM batch JOIN Path ON (batch.Path = Path.Path) JOIN
 Filename ON (batch.Name = Filename.Name): ERR=Lock wait timeout exceeded;
 try restarting transaction

 This happens when a database lock has timed out on a backup and the job
 is rescheduled.  For some reason, it seems a new job is starting up as soon
 as the error is detected.  I posted about this issue earlier and someone
 mentioned it is happening because I configured Bacula to do that (or at
 least that's the impression I got from the post).  Would anyone know which
 config would have the setting to start up a new job for the client backup
 when an error like a lock is detected?  So far, I've only found settings
 for rescheduling, not restarting such as below:

Reschedule Interval = 1 hour
 Reschedule Times = 3
 Cancel Lower Level Duplicates = yes
 Allow Duplicate Jobs = no

 Obviously, the backup is getting canceled because of the last two
 settings above.  But, what setting is causing a new job to be created when
 I get a lock timeout error is detected that says it has rescheduled the job
 for 3600 minutes later?

 I realize it appears I may need to do some database fixing/turning.
 But, my immediate wonder is why a new job is being created when one has
 been rescheduled?

 Regards,
 -craig

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> ___
>>> Bacula-users mailing list
>>> Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
>>>
>>>
>>
>
--
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Craig Shiroma]

Hi Ana,

I'm using 7.0.5.  Thanks for the help!

-craig

On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Ana Emília M. Arruda <
emiliaarr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Craig,
>
> Which Bacula version are you using?
>
> Best regards,
> Ana
>
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Craig Shiroma 
> wrote:
>
>> My apologies.  I hit the send button before entering a subject.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Craig Shiroma > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> I'm getting the following problem occasionally:
>>> 2015-09-10 23:47:24bacula-dir JobId 140080: Fatal error: JobId 139901
>>> already running. Duplicate job not allowed.
>>>
>>> Due to this type of error:
>>> 2015-09-10 23:47:22bacula-dir JobId 139901: Fatal error:
>>> sql_create.c:870 Fill File table Query failed: INSERT INTO File (FileIndex,
>>> JobId, PathId, FilenameId, LStat, MD5, DeltaSeq) SELECT batch.FileIndex,
>>> batch.JobId, Path.PathId, Filename.FilenameId,batch.LStat, batch.MD5,
>>> batch.DeltaSeq FROM batch JOIN Path ON (batch.Path = Path.Path) JOIN
>>> Filename ON (batch.Name = Filename.Name): ERR=Lock wait timeout exceeded;
>>> try restarting transaction
>>>
>>> This happens when a database lock has timed out on a backup and the job
>>> is rescheduled.  For some reason, it seems a new job is starting up as soon
>>> as the error is detected.  I posted about this issue earlier and someone
>>> mentioned it is happening because I configured Bacula to do that (or at
>>> least that's the impression I got from the post).  Would anyone know which
>>> config would have the setting to start up a new job for the client backup
>>> when an error like a lock is detected?  So far, I've only found settings
>>> for rescheduling, not restarting such as below:
>>>
>>>Reschedule Interval = 1 hour
>>> Reschedule Times = 3
>>> Cancel Lower Level Duplicates = yes
>>> Allow Duplicate Jobs = no
>>>
>>> Obviously, the backup is getting canceled because of the last two
>>> settings above.  But, what setting is causing a new job to be created when
>>> I get a lock timeout error is detected that says it has rescheduled the job
>>> for 3600 minutes later?
>>>
>>> I realize it appears I may need to do some database fixing/turning.
>>> But, my immediate wonder is why a new job is being created when one has
>>> been rescheduled?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> -craig
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> ___
>> Bacula-users mailing list
>> Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
>>
>>
>
--
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Ana Emília M . Arruda]

Hello Craig,

Which Bacula version are you using?

Best regards,
Ana

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Craig Shiroma 
wrote:

> My apologies.  I hit the send button before entering a subject.
>
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Craig Shiroma 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I'm getting the following problem occasionally:
>> 2015-09-10 23:47:24bacula-dir JobId 140080: Fatal error: JobId 139901
>> already running. Duplicate job not allowed.
>>
>> Due to this type of error:
>> 2015-09-10 23:47:22bacula-dir JobId 139901: Fatal error: sql_create.c:870
>> Fill File table Query failed: INSERT INTO File (FileIndex, JobId, PathId,
>> FilenameId, LStat, MD5, DeltaSeq) SELECT batch.FileIndex, batch.JobId,
>> Path.PathId, Filename.FilenameId,batch.LStat, batch.MD5, batch.DeltaSeq
>> FROM batch JOIN Path ON (batch.Path = Path.Path) JOIN Filename ON
>> (batch.Name = Filename.Name): ERR=Lock wait timeout exceeded; try
>> restarting transaction
>>
>> This happens when a database lock has timed out on a backup and the job
>> is rescheduled.  For some reason, it seems a new job is starting up as soon
>> as the error is detected.  I posted about this issue earlier and someone
>> mentioned it is happening because I configured Bacula to do that (or at
>> least that's the impression I got from the post).  Would anyone know which
>> config would have the setting to start up a new job for the client backup
>> when an error like a lock is detected?  So far, I've only found settings
>> for rescheduling, not restarting such as below:
>>
>>Reschedule Interval = 1 hour
>> Reschedule Times = 3
>> Cancel Lower Level Duplicates = yes
>> Allow Duplicate Jobs = no
>>
>> Obviously, the backup is getting canceled because of the last two
>> settings above.  But, what setting is causing a new job to be created when
>> I get a lock timeout error is detected that says it has rescheduled the job
>> for 3600 minutes later?
>>
>> I realize it appears I may need to do some database fixing/turning.  But,
>> my immediate wonder is why a new job is being created when one has been
>> rescheduled?
>>
>> Regards,
>> -craig
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> ___
> Bacula-users mailing list
> Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
>
>
--
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Craig Shiroma]

My apologies.  I hit the send button before entering a subject.

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Craig Shiroma 
wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I'm getting the following problem occasionally:
> 2015-09-10 23:47:24bacula-dir JobId 140080: Fatal error: JobId 139901
> already running. Duplicate job not allowed.
>
> Due to this type of error:
> 2015-09-10 23:47:22bacula-dir JobId 139901: Fatal error: sql_create.c:870
> Fill File table Query failed: INSERT INTO File (FileIndex, JobId, PathId,
> FilenameId, LStat, MD5, DeltaSeq) SELECT batch.FileIndex, batch.JobId,
> Path.PathId, Filename.FilenameId,batch.LStat, batch.MD5, batch.DeltaSeq
> FROM batch JOIN Path ON (batch.Path = Path.Path) JOIN Filename ON
> (batch.Name = Filename.Name): ERR=Lock wait timeout exceeded; try
> restarting transaction
>
> This happens when a database lock has timed out on a backup and the job is
> rescheduled.  For some reason, it seems a new job is starting up as soon as
> the error is detected.  I posted about this issue earlier and someone
> mentioned it is happening because I configured Bacula to do that (or at
> least that's the impression I got from the post).  Would anyone know which
> config would have the setting to start up a new job for the client backup
> when an error like a lock is detected?  So far, I've only found settings
> for rescheduling, not restarting such as below:
>
>Reschedule Interval = 1 hour
> Reschedule Times = 3
> Cancel Lower Level Duplicates = yes
> Allow Duplicate Jobs = no
>
> Obviously, the backup is getting canceled because of the last two settings
> above.  But, what setting is causing a new job to be created when I get a
> lock timeout error is detected that says it has rescheduled the job for
> 3600 minutes later?
>
> I realize it appears I may need to do some database fixing/turning.  But,
> my immediate wonder is why a new job is being created when one has been
> rescheduled?
>
> Regards,
> -craig
>
--
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Radosław Korzeniewski]

Hello,

2015-04-26 3:44 GMT+02:00 Tim Dunphy bluethu...@gmail.com:

 Hey all,

  I have one host that seems to be erroring out whenever I try to take a
 backup of it:


 Running Jobs:
 Console connected at 25-Apr-15 19:23
  JobId Level   Name   Status
 ==
  3 Fullweb1.jokefire.com.2015-04-25_19.23.56_09 has a fatal error

 And when I run messages I see this:

 *messages
 25-Apr 20:40 ops.jokefire.com JobId 3: Fatal error: catreq.c:587
 attribute create error.

 Can anyone tell me how I can get around this error?


Check a database engine logs what was a cause of the error.

best regards
-- 
Radosław Korzeniewski
rados...@korzeniewski.net
--
One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud 
Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications
Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights
Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight.
http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Simone Caronni]

Hello,

I've been using Dell LT2000 libraries with barcode readers for the past 7
years (SAS, SCSI). No issues at all; I would really recommend those
libraries.

No experience on Fujitsu libraries.

Regards,
--Simone


On 21 November 2014 12:23, Luca Codutti lucacodu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Bacula users,
 I am currently planning a tape backup system for a research group in an
 academic institution for which I thought about bacula. I have in my hands
 two offers for the purpose which involve either a DELL LT2000 (2 drives,
 connected through sas) LTO-6 or a Fujitsu eternus lt-60 LTO-6 (sas). Are
 there some drawbacks in choosing bacula for these two systems I am not
 aware of?

 Best Regards


 --
 Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server
 from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards
 with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration  more
 Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE

 http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
 ___
 Bacula-users mailing list
 Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users




-- 
You cannot discover new oceans unless you have the courage to lose sight of
the shore (R. W. Emerson).

http://xkcd.com/229/
http://negativo17.org/
--
Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server
from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards
with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration  more
Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE
http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Ana Emília M . Arruda]

Hi Luca,

I have been using DELL PowerVault 124T for one year and before I had been
using IBM TS3100 for 5 years. No experience on Fujitsu libraries like
Simone. SAS and SCSI connections with both of them.

Best regards,
Ana

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Simone Caronni negativ...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hello,

 I've been using Dell LT2000 libraries with barcode readers for the past 7
 years (SAS, SCSI). No issues at all; I would really recommend those
 libraries.

 No experience on Fujitsu libraries.

 Regards,
 --Simone


 On 21 November 2014 12:23, Luca Codutti lucacodu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Bacula users,
 I am currently planning a tape backup system for a research group in an
 academic institution for which I thought about bacula. I have in my hands
 two offers for the purpose which involve either a DELL LT2000 (2 drives,
 connected through sas) LTO-6 or a Fujitsu eternus lt-60 LTO-6 (sas). Are
 there some drawbacks in choosing bacula for these two systems I am not
 aware of?

 Best Regards


 --
 Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server
 from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards
 with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration  more
 Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE

 http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
 ___
 Bacula-users mailing list
 Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users




 --
 You cannot discover new oceans unless you have the courage to lose sight
 of the shore (R. W. Emerson).

 http://xkcd.com/229/
 http://negativo17.org/


 --
 Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server
 from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards
 with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration  more
 Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE

 http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
 ___
 Bacula-users mailing list
 Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users


--
Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server
from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards
with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration  more
Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE
http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Roberts, Ben]

Hi Luca,

I’ve been using an LT60 S2 (SAS) with LTO-6 and LTO-04 drives for 12 months 
(many hundreds of TB written). I’ve had no problems until recently and have 
been happy with the unit on the whole (it is a significant improvement over the 
StorageTek unit it replaced). I’m currently working through an issue with tech 
support regarding the barcode labels being incorrectly scanned, though we 
believe at the moment the fault is with the media labels rather than the 
barcode reader. I have been very impressed with the Fujitsu support while 
working through this case on the one occasion I’ve had to use them in reference 
to this unit.

I believe the LT60 is identical hardware (bar the front panel, firmware) to 
HP’s 48-slot offering as well, just in case you had any reason to buy from one 
or other vendor.

Regards,
Ben Roberts

From: Luca Codutti [mailto:lucacodu...@gmail.com]
Sent: 21 November 2014 11:23
To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

Dear Bacula users,
I am currently planning a tape backup system for a research group in an 
academic institution for which I thought about bacula. I have in my hands two 
offers for the purpose which involve either a DELL LT2000 (2 drives, connected 
through sas) LTO-6 or a Fujitsu eternus lt-60 LTO-6 (sas). Are there some 
drawbacks in choosing bacula for these two systems I am not aware of?
Best Regards

This email and any files transmitted with it contain confidential and 
proprietary information and is solely for the use of the intended recipient.
If you are not the intended recipient please return the email to the sender and 
delete it from your computer and you must not use, disclose, distribute, copy, 
print or rely on this email or its contents.
This communication is for informational purposes only.
It is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any 
financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction.
Any comments or statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of GSA 
Capital.
GSA Capital Partners LLP is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct 
Authority and is registered in England and Wales at Stratton House, 5 Stratton 
Street, London W1J 8LA, number OC309261.
GSA Capital Services Limited is registered in England and Wales at the same 
address, number 5320529.
--
Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server
from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards
with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration  more
Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE
http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Luca Codutti]

Thank you for the reassuring news!

2014-11-21 15:08 GMT+01:00 Roberts, Ben ben.robe...@gsacapital.com:

  Hi Luca,



 I’ve been using an LT60 S2 (SAS) with LTO-6 and LTO-04 drives for 12
 months (many hundreds of TB written). I’ve had no problems until recently
 and have been happy with the unit on the whole (it is a significant
 improvement over the StorageTek unit it replaced). I’m currently working
 through an issue with tech support regarding the barcode labels being
 incorrectly scanned, though we believe at the moment the fault is with the
 media labels rather than the barcode reader. I have been very impressed
 with the Fujitsu support while working through this case on the one
 occasion I’ve had to use them in reference to this unit.



 I believe the LT60 is identical hardware (bar the front panel, firmware)
 to HP’s 48-slot offering as well, just in case you had any reason to buy
 from one or other vendor.



 Regards,

 Ben Roberts



 *From:* Luca Codutti [mailto:lucacodu...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* 21 November 2014 11:23
 *To:* bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 *Subject:* [Bacula-users] (no subject)



 Dear Bacula users,

 I am currently planning a tape backup system for a research group in an
 academic institution for which I thought about bacula. I have in my hands
 two offers for the purpose which involve either a DELL LT2000 (2 drives,
 connected through sas) LTO-6 or a Fujitsu eternus lt-60 LTO-6 (sas). Are
 there some drawbacks in choosing bacula for these two systems I am not
 aware of?

 Best Regards
   --
 This email and any files transmitted with it contain confidential and
 proprietary information and is solely for the use of the intended
 recipient. If you are not the intended recipient please return the email to
 the sender and delete it from your computer and you must not use, disclose,
 distribute, copy, print or rely on this email or its contents. This
 communication is for informational purposes only. It is not intended as an
 offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument
 or as an official confirmation of any transaction. Any comments or
 statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of GSA Capital. GSA
 Capital Partners LLP is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct
 Authority and is registered in England and Wales at Stratton House, 5
 Stratton Street, London W1J 8LA, number OC309261. GSA Capital Services
 Limited is registered in England and Wales at the same address, number
 5320529.




-- 
Luca
--
Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server
from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards
with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration  more
Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE
http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Dimitri Maziuk]

On 11/21/2014 08:46 AM, Luca Codutti wrote:
 Thank you for the reassuring news!

And now the bad news  ;)

We've been using DLTs happily enough and now have a few hundred DLT
tapes in the basement with no hardware (or software) to recover anything
from them (assuming there's something recoverable).

(DLT's been officially EOL'ed in 2007, I think we stopped using it a few
years before that.)

Then we switched to AITs and now we have a sun box with its disks dd'ed
in triplicate, another same model sun for spares, and 2 qualstar
libraries -- so for AITs we at least have the software and hardware in
case we need to recover stuff.

(AIT's been EOL'ed in 2010.)

Last but not least, this is in academic environment where you can only
really guarantee retention to the end of your funding period.

So
- we keep 10 years worth of backups
- but we only have money to keep them until next September
- and the technologies required for actually using those backups don't
exist anymore. For some of them, even companies who invented them don't
exist.

So I would strongly recommend finding an excuse to weasel your way out
of that project if you possibly can.

-- 
Dimitri Maziuk
Programmer/sysadmin
BioMagResBank, UW-Madison -- http://www.bmrb.wisc.edu



signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature
--
Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server
from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards
with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration  more
Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE
http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Heitor Faria]

 Hey all,


Hey Tim,

 *15-Sep 03:05 ops.mydomain.com http://ops.mydomain.com JobId 180: Fatal
 error: sql_create.c:916 Can't start batch mode: ERR=*

df -h and see if you have enough disk space for you operational system /
where database runs.

Regards,
-- 

Heitor Medrado de Faria | Need Bacula training? 10% discount coupon code at
Udemy: bacula-users
https://www.udemy.com/bacula-backup-software/?couponCode=bacula-users
+55 61 2021-8260
+55 61 8268-4220
Site: www.bacula.com.br
Facebook: heitor.faria http://www.facebook.com/heitor.faria
Gtalk: heitorfa...@gmail.com

--
Want excitement?
Manually upgrade your production database.
When you want reliability, choose Perforce.
Perforce version control. Predictably reliable.
http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[lst_hoe02]

Zitat von Luis H. Forchesatto luisforchesa...@gmail.com:

 Good morning Andreas.

 In my case both machines (client and storage/director) are linux OS. They
 are at the same network and the backup are transported via network. I think
 that way is better to keep one job per server, am I right?

 Thanks for answering me. :)

If you have more than one I/O channel (multiple disk(s)) and your  
network is not saturated from one job you can try if your Bacula  
server (SD) is able to handle another one concurrently with raising  
throughput. No problem with Unix (Linux) but not usefull in all cases.

Regards

Andreas



--
Keep yourself connected to Go Parallel: 
VERIFY Test and improve your parallel project with help from experts 
and peers. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[lst_hoe02]

Zitat von Luis H. Forchesatto luisforchesa...@gmail.com:

 Greetings.

 I'm running bacula and I got 3 jobs for a single server that backup the
 entire filesystem. Searching how to enable multiple jobs at the same time i
 found the Maximum Concurrent Jobs directive but also found this line:

 We recommend that you carefully test your multiple concurrent backup
 including doing thorough restore testing before you put it into production.

 Font:
 http://www.bacula.org/fr/dev-manual/Tips_and_Suggestions.html#SECTION0081818000

 Which problems may occur when running multiple jobs from the same server?

You need careful testing and understanding to not actually slow down  
your backups because of concurrency. If you do not use data encryption  
most of the time the I/O will be your bottleneck and it doesn't help  
to load the same I/O channel with more than one backup at once for  
example. If you want to do this with a Windows clients be aware that  
it doesn't work with neither VSS nor Data Encryption. If it is Unix  
with more than one I/O channel and a fast connection to your backup  
server you might get more speed with concurrent backups.

Regards

Andreas




--
Keep yourself connected to Go Parallel: 
INSIGHTS What's next for parallel hardware, programming and related areas?
Interviews and blogs by thought leaders keep you ahead of the curve.
http://goparallel.sourceforge.net
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Uwe Schuerkamp]

Hello Luis, 

looks like bacula has a permission problem and cannot read or write to
the new usb device, you might want to check permission settings on the
directory /media/usb-backup/bacula/ when the drive is mounted: 

On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 10:36:34AM -0300, Luis H. Forchesatto wrote:

 04-May 08:48 backup-dir JobId 2497: Using Device FileStorage
 04-May 08:48 backup-sd JobId 2497: Warning: label.c:331 Open device
 FileStorage (/media/usb-backup/bacula/) Volume smbserver.sysconf-898
 failed: ERR=dev.c:548 Could not open:
 /media/usb-backup/bacula/smbserver.sysconf-898, ERR=Permission denied
 



All the best, Uwe 

-- 

NIONEX --- Ein Unternehmen der Bertelsmann AG



--
Live Security Virtual Conference
Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and 
threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions 
will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware 
threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Luis H. Forchesatto]

Sure, the drive needed to be mounted so bacula can save the backups.

This server belong to a client, and he simply forget do plug the usb drive
in the usb port, he plugged and everything worked perfectly. It will be
surely plugged to the drive he said.

Now I ask you, how people like him survive nowadays? ¬¬

Thanks for the help by the way.

2012/5/7 Uwe Schuerkamp uwe.schuerk...@nionex.net

 Hello Luis,

 looks like bacula has a permission problem and cannot read or write to
 the new usb device, you might want to check permission settings on the
 directory /media/usb-backup/bacula/ when the drive is mounted:

 On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 10:36:34AM -0300, Luis H. Forchesatto wrote:

  04-May 08:48 backup-dir JobId 2497: Using Device FileStorage
  04-May 08:48 backup-sd JobId 2497: Warning: label.c:331 Open device
  FileStorage (/media/usb-backup/bacula/) Volume smbserver.sysconf-898
  failed: ERR=dev.c:548 Could not open:
  /media/usb-backup/bacula/smbserver.sysconf-898, ERR=Permission denied
 



 All the best, Uwe

 --

 NIONEX --- Ein Unternehmen der Bertelsmann AG





-- 
Att.*
***
--
Live Security Virtual Conference
Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and 
threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions 
will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware 
threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Uwe Schuerkamp]

On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 09:51:51AM -0300, Luis H. Forchesatto wrote:
 Hi
 
 I'm receiving que following message when trying to run a job:
 
  JobId Level   Name   Status
 ==
   2498 Fullproxy.sysconf.2012-05-04_09.38.01_10 *is waiting for a mount
 request*
 
 
 The storage device was changed from a hard disk to an usb disk due to
 problems in the original backup disk. Maybe some procedure i skipped?
 
 -- 

I guess we need some more config info here, specifically you should
have received a mount request email to the address configured in your
bacula config. It will contain the info about which volume / media
bacula wants mounted or hasn't found for some reason.

Cheers, Uwe 
-- 
NIONEX --- Ein Unternehmen der Bertelsmann AG



--
Live Security Virtual Conference
Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and 
threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions 
will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware 
threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Bruno Friedmann]

On Tuesday 17 April 2012 15.45:13 Christophe LARSONNEUR wrote:
 Bonjour,
 
  
 
 Je rencontre un problème avec le FD sur différents serveurs Windows.
 
 La sauvegarde s'effectue correctement mais la restauration ne s'effectue pas.
 
 En effet lorsque je lance une restauration via la console et la commande 
 restore j'obtiens deux erreurs sur mon FD.
 
 Voir ci-dessous.
 
  
 
 17-avril 13:59 SRV-BACULA-dir JobId 163: Start Restore Job 
 RestoreFiles.2012-04-17_13.59.31_09
 
 17-avril 13:59 SRV-BACULA-dir JobId 163: Using Device DeviceFile
 
 17-avril 13:59 SRV-BACULA-sd JobId 163: Ready to read from volume 
 Pool-Full-UC-46-2012-04-17i-12:12 on device DeviceFile 
 (/var/data/catalogue).
 
 17-avril 13:59 SRV-BACULA-sd JobId 163: Forward spacing Volume 
 Pool-Full-UC-46-2012-04-17i-12:12 to file:block 0:230.
 
 17-avril 13:59 SRV-BACULA-dir JobId 163: Fatal error: Socket error on Store 
 end command: ERR=Connexion ré-initialisée par le correspondant 17-avril 
 13:59 SRV-BACULA-sd JobId 163: Error: bsock.c:389 Write error sending 62283 
 bytes to client:192.168.30.142:36643: ERR=Erreur d'entrée/sortie 17-avril 
 13:59 SRV-BACULA-sd JobId 163: Fatal error: read.c:137 Error sending to File 
 daemon. ERR=Erreur d'entrée/sortie 17-avril 13:59 SRV-BACULA-sd JobId 163: 
 Error: bsock.c:335 Socket has errors=1 on call to client:192.168.30.142:36643 
 17-avril 13:59 SRV-BACULA-dir JobId 163: Error: Bacula SRV-BACULA-dir 5.2.6 
 (21Feb12):
 
   Build OS:   x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu debian 6.0.4
 
   JobId:  163
 
   Job:RestoreFiles.2012-04-17_13.59.31_09
 
   Restore Client: UC-46
 
   Start time: 17-avril-2012 13:59:33
 
   End time:   17-avril-2012 13:59:35
 
   Files Expected: 11
 
   Files Restored: 0
 
   Bytes Restored: 0
 
   Rate:   0.0 KB/s
 
   FD Errors:  1
 
   FD termination status:  
 
   SD termination status:  Canceled
 
   Termination:*** Restore Error ***
 
  
 
 17-avril 13:59 SRV-BACULA-dir JobId 163: Error: Bacula SRV-BACULA-dir 5.2.6 
 (21Feb12):
 
   Build OS:   x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu debian 6.0.4
 
   JobId:  163
 
   Job:RestoreFiles.2012-04-17_13.59.31_09
 
   Restore Client: UC-46
 
   Start time: 17-avril-2012 13:59:33
 
   End time:   17-avril-2012 13:59:35
 
   Files Expected: 11
 
   Files Restored: 0
 
   Bytes Restored: 0
 
   Rate:   0.0 KB/s
 
   FD Errors:  2
 
   FD termination status:  
 
   SD termination status:  Canceled
 
   Termination:*** Restore Error ***
 
  
 
 La restauration me plante le service bacula-fd.
 
 Si je test avec la commande suivante sous Windows j'ai ce message d'erreur :
 
  
 
 C:\Program Files\Bacula 17-Apr 15:41 bacula-fd: ERROR TERMINATION at 
 /home/kern/bacula/k/bacula/src/lib/
 
 parse_conf.c:918
 
 Config error: Cannot open config file C:\ProgramData\Bacula/bacula-fd.conf: 
 No  such file or directory
 
  
 
 Merci pour votre aide.
 
 Cordialement.
 
  
 
 Christophe

Christophe tout est dit dans le message d'erreur 
C:\ProgramData\Bacula/bacula-fd.conf: No  such file or directory

pour tester le service 
bacula-fd -t -d 200 -c emplacement-du-fichier-de-configuration tel que déclarer 
dans le service


-- 
Bruno Friedmann 
Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch
 
openSUSE Member  Ambassador
GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227
irc: tigerfoot

--
Better than sec? Nothing is better than sec when it comes to
monitoring Big Data applications. Try Boundary one-second 
resolution app monitoring today. Free.
http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-dev2dev
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[korvus]

Life can bring you only good emotions!. 
http://www.pogoda.bosport.pl/page.php?egoogleId=11j9

--
Enable your software for Intel(R) Active Management Technology to meet the
growing manageability and security demands of your customers. Businesses
are taking advantage of Intel(R) vPro (TM) technology - will your software 
be a part of the solution? Download the Intel(R) Manageability Checker 
today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmar
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[korvus]

It�s a pleasure to deal with this company.. 
http://dsblanc.mouais.ch/page.php?yqID=03ow6

--
Enable your software for Intel(R) Active Management Technology to meet the
growing manageability and security demands of your customers. Businesses
are taking advantage of Intel(R) vPro (TM) technology - will your software 
be a part of the solution? Download the Intel(R) Manageability Checker 
today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmar
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Phil Stracchino]

On 03/25/11 12:26, kor...@comcast.net wrote:
 It�s a pleasure to deal with this company.. 
 http://dsblanc.mouais.ch/page.php?yqID=03ow6

Would somebody PLEASE banhammer this spammer?

-- 
  Phil Stracchino, CDK#2 DoD#299792458 ICBM: 43.5607, -71.355
  ala...@caerllewys.net   ala...@metrocast.net   p...@co.ordinate.org
  Renaissance Man, Unix ronin, Perl hacker, SQL wrangler, Free Stater
 It's not the years, it's the mileage.

--
Enable your software for Intel(R) Active Management Technology to meet the
growing manageability and security demands of your customers. Businesses
are taking advantage of Intel(R) vPro (TM) technology - will your software 
be a part of the solution? Download the Intel(R) Manageability Checker 
today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmar
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Cyril Lavier]

fadwa lahrach wrote:
 Hello All,

 AftAfter successful configuration and installation of Bacula, i wanted 
 to start the bconsole but i always get this error:
 [r...@localhost bin]# ./bacula start
 Starting the Bacula Storage daemon
 Starting the Bacula File daemon
 Starting the Bacula Director daemon
 [r...@localhost bin]# ./bconsole
 Connecting to Director localhost:9101
 bconsole JobId 0: Fatal error: bsock.c:135 Unable to connect to 
 Director daemon on localhost:9101. ERR=Connexion refusée

 Knowing that i use Mysql, and the 3 daemons are started.

 Thank you for your help.

 Best Regards,
 Fadwa

 
 Discute avec tes amis partout, grâce à Messenger sur ton mobile. 
 Cliquez ici ! http://www.messengersurvotremobile.com/
 

 --
 The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation
 Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business
 Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts
 Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away.
 http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com
 

 ___
 Bacula-users mailing list
 Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
   
Did you try a netstat to see if there's a daemon listening on 
localhost:9101 ?

Could you paste the Director part of you bacula-director configuration 
file please ?

Thanks

-- 
Cyril LAVIER | Systems Administrator | LTU Technologies
132 Rue de Rivoli - 75001 Paris France
(tel) +33 (0)1 53 43 01 71 | (mail) clav...@ltutech.com
LTU technologies - Making Sense of Visual Content |  www.LTUtech.com 


--
The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation
Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business
Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts
Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away.
http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Phil Stracchino]

On 01/26/10 03:54, fadwa lahrach wrote:
 Hello All,
 
 AftAfter successful configuration and installation of Bacula, i wanted
 to start the bconsole but i always get this error:
 [r...@localhost bin]# ./bacula start
 Starting the Bacula Storage daemon
 Starting the Bacula File daemon
 Starting the Bacula Director daemon
 [r...@localhost bin]# ./bconsole
 Connecting to Director localhost:9101
 bconsole JobId 0: Fatal error: bsock.c:135 Unable to connect to Director
 daemon on localhost:9101. ERR=Connexion refusée

Did you set up all the required passwords in ALL applicable config files?


-- 
  Phil Stracchino, CDK#2 DoD#299792458 ICBM: 43.5607, -71.355
  ala...@caerllewys.net   ala...@metrocast.net   p...@co.ordinate.org
 Renaissance Man, Unix ronin, Perl hacker, Free Stater
 It's not the years, it's the mileage.

--
The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation
Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business
Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts
Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away.
http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Moray Henderson]

From: fadwa lahrach [mailto:fadwa.lahr...@hotmail.fr] 
[r...@localhost bin]# ./bconsole 
Connecting to Director localhost:9101 
bconsole JobId 0: Fatal error: bsock.c:135 Unable to connect to Director
daemon on localhost:9101. ERR=Connexion refusée 

Knowing that i use Mysql, and the 3 daemons are started. 

Thank you for your help.

Best Regards,
Fadwa 

 

 

Firewall blocking port 9101?

 

 

Moray.
To err is human.  To purr, feline

 

--
The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation
Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business
Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts
Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away.
http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Moray Henderson]

From: Paul Binkley [mailto:paul.bink...@ois.com] 
Hi list,

 

I have been using Bacula 2.4.4 in production for several months now, so
I have a robust set of backup volumes. I now have a new machine (CentOS
5.4) up and running with Bacula 3.0.2 installed. Besides fixing up the
conf files, how do I make the new installation work with the existing
data? I don’t want to lose access to the 5TB of backed up data.

 

Is there a way to upgrade the existing database and plug it in to the
new installation while retaining all the important information that
Bacula needs to continue using/recycling volumes or accessing existing
volumes for restore?

 

 

Thanks much!

 

Does the Upgrading
http://www.bacula.org/3.0.x-manuals/en/install/install/Installing_Bacul
a.html#SECTION0032  Bacula section of the manual help
you?

 

 

Moray.
To err is human.  To purr, feline

 

--
This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community
Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support
A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy
Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers
http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev ___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[John Drescher]

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Gavin McCullaghgavin.mccull...@gcd.ie wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm getting started with bacula.  I have a couple of minor backup jobs running
 for a month or two.  We have a windows webserver whose existing backups are
 a bit rough so I thought I'd test out bacula's windows fd and get a little
 further into bacula as I'm at it.  This is the first FD which is on a
 different subnet (ie passing through a router/firewall) and the first
 windows FD.

 I've run into a problem.  I've set up the FD on the windows webserver and
 I'm pretty sure I have it moreorless right with the password matching that
 on the server.  I've created a firewall rule for port 9102 and can telnet
 to 9102 on the FD.

 I've started the director console on the backup server and (just to test)
 asked it to estimate the time for the job on the windows machine FD.  The
 estimation works for the other backup jobs.  I get this error:

 23-Jun 13:12 cuimhne-dir JobId 0: Fatal error: File daemon at 
 babble.gcd.ie:9102 rejected Hello command
 23-Jun 13:13 cuimhne-dir JobId 0: Fatal error: File daemon at 
 babble.gcd.ie:9102 rejected Hello command

 I wonder is it immediately obvious to anyone what might cause this?  What
 should I be checking to see what's wrong?  I can post a tcpdump trace, etc.
 if need be.

 Thanks in advance,
 Gavin


Is your client a 3.0.X version while the server is 2.X.X?

John

--
Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge conference!
Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day of unconference: $250.
Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. Register today!
http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebridge.org
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Arno Lehmann]

Hello,

and welcome here! I hope you find all the advice you need here - and 
I'm sure you'll be able to halp others, too!

23.06.2009 14:32, Gavin McCullagh wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm getting started with bacula.  I have a couple of minor backup jobs running
 for a month or two.  We have a windows webserver whose existing backups are
 a bit rough so I thought I'd test out bacula's windows fd and get a little
 further into bacula as I'm at it.  This is the first FD which is on a
 different subnet (ie passing through a router/firewall) and the first
 windows FD.
 
 I've run into a problem.  I've set up the FD on the windows webserver and
 I'm pretty sure I have it moreorless right with the password matching that
 on the server.  I've created a firewall rule for port 9102 and can telnet
 to 9102 on the FD.

You also need to allow the FD to connect to the SD - that connection 
is initiated by the client.

 I've started the director console on the backup server and (just to test)
 asked it to estimate the time for the job on the windows machine FD.  The
 estimation works for the other backup jobs.  I get this error:
 
 23-Jun 13:12 cuimhne-dir JobId 0: Fatal error: File daemon at 
 babble.gcd.ie:9102 rejected Hello command
 23-Jun 13:13 cuimhne-dir JobId 0: Fatal error: File daemon at 
 babble.gcd.ie:9102 rejected Hello command
 
 I wonder is it immediately obvious to anyone what might cause this?  What
 should I be checking to see what's wrong?  I can post a tcpdump trace, etc.
 if need be.

Wait a bit with that... first, tell us which versions you run.

I'm pretty sure that you have a version mismatch there, probably a 
2.something DIR and SD and a 3.0 FD.

Regards,

Arno

 Thanks in advance,
 Gavin
 
 
 --
 Are you an open source citizen? Join us for the Open Source Bridge conference!
 Portland, OR, June 17-19. Two days of sessions, one day of unconference: $250.
 Need another reason to go? 24-hour hacker lounge. Register today!
 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;215844324;13503038;v?http://opensourcebridge.org
 ___
 Bacula-users mailing list
 Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
 

-- 
Arno Lehmann
IT-Service Lehmann
Sandstr. 6, 49080 Osnabrück
www.its-lehmann.de

--
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[John Drescher]

2009/4/1 C.DriK c.drik-ach...@orange.fr:
 Bonjour à tous,

 J'aimerais savoir si certains d'entre vous ont réussi à configurer bacula 
 pour un lecteur de bande DELL PowerVault TL2000.
 Je ne comprend pas bien comment le configurer.

 Merci par avance


 


 Hello everyone,

 I wonder if some of you have managed to configure bacula to a tape drive DELL 
 PowerVault TL2000.
 I do not understand how to configure.

 Thanks by advance



I see there are 14 email threads in the last two years on that subject
in my gmail account. I would search the archives.


John

--
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[John Drescher]

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 3:19 PM, JanJaap Scholing
janjaapschol...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 We are using bacula with a file-storage.
 Backups are running at every time of the day. The problem is when we want to
 restore a file from the file-storage, the director waits on Storage
 FileStorage to complete a running backup before he starts restoring.

 Is it possible to make a extra drive who can also mount the FileStorage
 and run a backup and restore job at the same time?

I believe that will work as long as the volume you are reading is not
the same as teh veolume you are writing.

John

--
This SF.net email is sponsored by:
SourcForge Community
SourceForge wants to tell your story.
http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Dan Langille]

John Drescher wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 3:19 PM, JanJaap Scholing
 janjaapschol...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 We are using bacula with a file-storage.
 Backups are running at every time of the day. The problem is when we want to
 restore a file from the file-storage, the director waits on Storage
 FileStorage to complete a running backup before he starts restoring.

 Is it possible to make a extra drive who can also mount the FileStorage
 and run a backup and restore job at the same time?

 I believe that will work as long as the volume you are reading is not
 the same as teh veolume you are writing.

Ahh, good point.  This encourages people to keep Maximum Volume Size to 
a smaller value.


--
This SF.net email is sponsored by:
SourcForge Community
SourceForge wants to tell your story.
http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Frank Sweetser]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://bugs.bacula.org/view.php?id=1018

 
 Yeah, seems to be the same problem. I haven't actually watched to see if
 the other drive is requesting the tape at the same time, but I assumed
 that it was something like that. Its also at the beginning of the jobs, so
 that sounds right. I guess they don't have any ETA -- I'm also using
 version 2.2.6.

Hey Marc,

 in case you're not still monitoring the ticket, and for anyone else seeing
the issue of Bacula getting stuck while looking for a single tape in multiple
drives, there is code attached to the ticket (a patch and a replacement
reserve.c) that have fixed the problem for me for a couple of days in a row.

The code hasn't seen widespread testing yet, so be cautious when deploying
this to a production system, but it may be worth testing out if you're running
into this particular glitch.  If it fixes it for you, feel free to drop a note
in the ticket as well, as the more confirmed testing this sees, the better!

-- 
Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu  |  For every problem, there is a solution that
WPI Senior Network Engineer   |  is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken
GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4  E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

-
This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft
Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005.
http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[marc . smith]

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I have a Spectra Logic T50 and run about 50 jobs each night. The tape
 library has 2 LTO3 drives. Lately it seems like at the beginning of the
 night, one of the jobs will sit and and keep a drive waiting for a
 volume
 all night:

 07-Dec 02:24 escabot-sd JobId 8280: Please mount Volume 97LX or
 label a new
 one for:
 Job:  espizarro.2007-12-07_02.00.55
 Storage:  T50-Drive-1 (/dev/nst0)
 Pool: Daily
 Media type:   LTO-3

 Was the volume being requested, 97LX, already mounted on the other
 tape
 drive, nst1?  If so, it sounds like you're hitting the same glitch I ran
 into:

 http://bugs.bacula.org/view.php?id=1018


Yeah, seems to be the same problem. I haven't actually watched to see if
the other drive is requesting the tape at the same time, but I assumed
that it was something like that. Its also at the beginning of the jobs, so
that sounds right. I guess they don't have any ETA -- I'm also using
version 2.2.6.


--Marc

 --
 Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu  |  For every problem, there is a solution
 that
 WPI Senior Network Engineer   |  is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL
 Mencken
 GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4  E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

 !DSPAM:1,4759534220681210147!





-
SF.Net email is sponsored by:
Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace.
It's the best place to buy or sell services for
just about anything Open Source.
http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Frank Sweetser]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have a Spectra Logic T50 and run about 50 jobs each night. The tape
 library has 2 LTO3 drives. Lately it seems like at the beginning of the
 night, one of the jobs will sit and and keep a drive waiting for a volume
 all night:
 
 07-Dec 02:24 escabot-sd JobId 8280: Please mount Volume 97LX or
 label a new
 one for:
 Job:  espizarro.2007-12-07_02.00.55
 Storage:  T50-Drive-1 (/dev/nst0)
 Pool: Daily
 Media type:   LTO-3

Was the volume being requested, 97LX, already mounted on the other tape
drive, nst1?  If so, it sounds like you're hitting the same glitch I ran into:

http://bugs.bacula.org/view.php?id=1018

-- 
Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu  |  For every problem, there is a solution that
WPI Senior Network Engineer   |  is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken
GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4  E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

-
SF.Net email is sponsored by:
Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace.
It's the best place to buy or sell services for
just about anything Open Source.
http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] Misleading subject in restore e-mails?

[Arno Lehmann]

Hi,

(cc'ed to -devel)

13.10.2007 02:19,, Joshua J. Kugler wrote::
 I'm running some tests, and as such, I'm not restoring to the
 system on which the files were originally backed up.  But when I
 get the report e-mails, in the subject they say:
 
 Bacula: Restore OK of machine-to-which-I'm-restoring Full
 
 Granted, I'm restoring that the second machine's client, but
 shouldn't the e-mail's subject reflect the machine that was
 selected for restore, not the location of the restore?

At least the option to do so would be nice. You might want a different 
messages resource for restores, but a variable substituted with the 
restore target would would be needed for this. Currently, there is %c 
for the client.

I would suggest to change %c to the target client, or, in case of a 
backup, keep it as it is now. To allow messages as they are now, 
adding a %C to mean the source client would be possible.

So, you'd have the following:
On Backup - %c and %C both hold the source client of the job
On Restore - - %c holds the target client, %C the source client
Everything else - %c unchanged to what it is now, and %C the same as %c

Does this sound reasonable?

Arno

 j
 

-- 
Arno Lehmann
IT-Service Lehmann
www.its-lehmann.de

-
This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc.
Still grepping through log files to find problems?  Stop.
Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser.
Download your FREE copy of Splunk now  http://get.splunk.com/
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Ryan Novosielski]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

I don't have the time to look this up, but aren't there instructions
about making changes to the Apache server/installing some Perl modules
or something in the INSTALL file? It appears that this would fix the
problem.

Jérôme Massano wrote:
 Hello !
 
 Is there anybody who can explain me where i am wrong ? 
 Please help me, this is the last step I need to have the perfect backup
 solution I want.
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 Jerome Massano
 
 
 Le mardi 27 mars 2007 à 15:53 +0200, Jérôme Massano a écrit :
 Hello.
 Please excuse my bad level in English (I'm French).

 I've recently installed bweb and it seems to work perfectly : I can
 have
 statistics, client status, launch predefined jobs, etc...
 Everything seems to work except I can't seem to run restore : In bweb,
 in the jobs submenu, there is Restore, but when I click on it, it
 opens a window and asks me what I want to do with bweb.pl (save to
 disk,
 or open with a selected program).
 I've seen the GUI brestore is a Perl/Gtk interface that is supposed to
 work with bweb to run restoration jobs. I thought I had to install it
 to
 make the bweb Jobs  Restore feature works. I have read and followed
 the
 instructions in the INSTALL file, except it tells me to copy the bsr
 file where the director can access it and i have no bsr files. It
 also
 tells me to configure brestore preferences, but I can't find the
 brestore configuration file.

 Can anyone help me ? Maybe there is something i didn't understand.


 PS : the server I am trying to install brestore has no X server
 installed on it, so I can't use brestore as a simple graphical
 interface
 and I have to make it useable via bweb.
 PPS : I am using bacula 2.0.3 compiled from the sources, and I use the
 last bweb and brestore files from the SVN.
 PPPS : I already posted on the bacula-user list for another problem
 (resolved) with another mail account (it was my personal mail, now I
 am
 using the professional one)

 Thank you

 Jerome Massano
 
 
 -
 Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT
 Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your
 opinions on IT  business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash
 http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV
 ___
 Bacula-users mailing list
 Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

- --
  _  _ _  _ ___  _  _  _
 |Y#| |  | |\/| |  \ |\ |  | |Ryan Novosielski - Systems Programmer III
 |$| |__| |  | |__/ | \| _| |[EMAIL PROTECTED] - 973/972.0922 (2-0922)
 \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent.|IST/AST - NJMS Medical Science Bldg - C630
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iD8DBQFGCtMYmb+gadEcsb4RAkfyAKC2TgZDXwZaZOkTMRtwWuuqV4y9rwCbB56r
YnY7iSGMHTd9XH1+LTZFaVU=
=CW/p
-END PGP SIGNATURE-



-
Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT
Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your
opinions on IT  business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash
http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Georg Altmann]

--On Mittwoch, 13. Dezember 2006 15:44 -0700 Sprague, Scott 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[--SNIP--]

 Our backups are done on a machine named gdcvault.  This machine was
 recently upgraded from Mandriva 2006 to 2007.  After the update, the
 backups on one of our clients, orange, have failed with the error message
 below.

 _
 _

 13-Dec 21:59 gdcvault-dir: orange_Full_Daily.2006-12-13_21.59.13 Error:
 bnet.c:257 Read error from File daemon:orange1.gdc:9102: ERR=Connection
 reset by peer

 13-Dec 21:59 gdcvault-dir: orange_Full_Daily.2006-12-13_21.59.13 Error:
 Bacula 1.38.11 (28Jun06): 13-Dec-2006 21:59:21

[--SNIP--]

 There is no firewall on either machine, both machines are on the same
 network, and we had no problems with the backups on this client until the
 upgrade.  Bacula version 1.38.11 is running on the backup server; the
 client is running 1.34.5.  I would suspect this as the problem, except
 that we have multiple Linux clients running the same version and having
[--SNIP--]

You should not do that. Make sure fd version == dir version == sd version.

Please consider turning off html in your mail-client when posting to 
mailing lists.

Regards,
Georg

-
Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT
Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your
opinions on IT  business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash
http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Georg Altmann]

--On Donnerstag, 14. Dezember 2006 11:42 +0100 Georg Altmann 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --On Mittwoch, 13. Dezember 2006 15:44 -0700 Sprague, Scott
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Please consider turning off html in your mail-client when posting to
 mailing lists.
Oh, and a descriptive subject line would be nice too. Thanks.

Regards,
Georg

-
Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT
Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your
opinions on IT  business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash
http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Georg Altmann]

--On Samstag, 9. Dezember 2006 10:18 +0100 Guy Corbaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Hello,

 I'm using Bacula since several days on Ubunto 6.06. Suddenly, after
 everything worked fine, I'm getting the following messages:

 09-Dec 01:05 saturne-dir: Pbx.2006-12-09_01.05.00 Fatal error:
 sql_create.c:91 sql_create.c:91 insert INSERT INTO Job
 (Job,Name,Type,Level,JobStatus,SchedTime,JobTDate) VALUES
 ('Pbx.2006-12-09_01.05.00','Pbx','B','I','C','2006-12-09
 01:05:00',1165622700) failed:
 MySQL server has gone away
 09-Dec 01:05 saturne-dir: Pbx.2006-12-09_01.05.00 Fatal error:
 sql_create.c:93 Create DB Job record INSERT INTO Job
 (Job,Name,Type,Level,JobStatus,SchedTime,JobTDate) VALUES
 ('Pbx.2006-12-09_01.05.00','Pbx','B','I','C','2006-12-09
 01:05:00',1165622700) failed. ERR=MySQL server has gone away

 If I restart the server and re-launch manually the backup, it works, but
 crash again during the night. Manually restarting MySQL is not enough.

Please supply version information of bacula and mysql if asking questions. 
Also your configuration files of bacula-dir and mysql might be useful.

Now to the problem: The log looks like you are running a job and bacula 
fails to insert the job into the databse because the connection dropped or 
mysqld died.
This problem repeatetly been reported for mysql version 5. If you run mysql 
version 5 try downgrading to version 4.
What do you mean by restart the server? Reboot the machine or restart the 
deamon process(es) of mysql/bacula? Please give more detauled information 
here.
What does the mysqld log say?
Try running mysqld with debugging enabled to find out why it dies (if it 
does actually) or why the connection is dropped.
Do you run other applications using the mysql server?
Is the mysql server on the same machine? If not, this might boil down to 
networking problems.

And BTW, google is your friend:
http://www.google.de/search?q=bacula+MySQL+server+has+gone+away
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/4.1/en/gone-away.html

This is what I can think of currently. Any other ideas?

Regards,
Georg





-
Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT
Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your
opinions on IT  business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash
http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Frank Sweetser]

On Sat, Dec 09, 2006 at 10:18:06AM +0100, Guy Corbaz wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'm using Bacula since several days on Ubunto 6.06. Suddenly, after 
 everything worked fine, I'm getting the following messages:
 
 09-Dec 01:05 saturne-dir: Pbx.2006-12-09_01.05.00 Fatal error: 
 sql_create.c:91 sql_create.c:91 insert INSERT INTO Job 
 (Job,Name,Type,Level,JobStatus,SchedTime,JobTDate) VALUES 
 ('Pbx.2006-12-09_01.05.00','Pbx','B','I','C','2006-12-09 
 01:05:00',1165622700) failed:
 MySQL server has gone away
 09-Dec 01:05 saturne-dir: Pbx.2006-12-09_01.05.00 Fatal error: 
 sql_create.c:93 Create DB Job record INSERT INTO Job 
 (Job,Name,Type,Level,JobStatus,SchedTime,JobTDate) VALUES 
 ('Pbx.2006-12-09_01.05.00','Pbx','B','I','C','2006-12-09 
 01:05:00',1165622700) failed. ERR=MySQL server has gone away
 
 If I restart the server and re-launch manually the backup, it works, but 
 crash again during the night. Manually restarting MySQL is not enough.
 
 Does anyone have an idea ?

Try the workaround at

http://paramount.ind.wpi.edu/wiki/doku.php?id=faq#mysql_server_has_gone_away

-- 
Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu  |  For every problem, there is a solution that
WPI Network Engineer  |  is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken
GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4  E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

-
Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT
Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your
opinions on IT  business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash
http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Alan Brown]

On Mon, 13 Nov 2006, Landon Fuller wrote:

 This argument is predicated on a few assumptions:

   1)  Vendor's usage of GPL software denotes blanket superiority 
 of said software.

No, however using software subject to the GPL licence means that the 
vendor must comply with it.

The flaw of BSD licenses for me is that someone can take my (or Kerns) 
work, repackage it as their own or modify it and not contribute the 
modifications back to the developer/user community

   2)  Users of software have a fundamental, moral right to not 
 only the open source licensed implementations, but any aggregate work based 
 atop those implementations.

Users of the software have a LEGAL right to the source code of all GPL 
implementations and implementations derived from GPL base.

Code written from scratch may run atop the GPL platform and is subject to 
the copyright holder's licensing rules.

Code which hooks into the core of GPL code may itself become subject to 
GPL (eg, various drivers) depending on the flavour of GPL lience of that 
code. 
sections

   3a) With the GPL, vendors will generally create a product based 
 open source software, and then contribute their changes back to the projects 
 in a usable form.

Generally yes. however there is clear percentage of vendors who 
deliberately violate the licensing agreemnts and therefore become software 
pirates - which is stupid, because there is no cost involved in complying 
other than admitting the code is non-proprietary.

Having an injunction served halting distribution of software or hardware 
can be extremely costly in terms of both direct financial costs and 
customer perception.

   3b) Without the GPL, vendors will generally create a product 
 based on open source software and NOT contribute their changes back to 
 projects in a usable form.

The GPL is one of many license types available. The overall experience of 
development on BSD-liences has been that vendors decline to make changes 
available.

   3c) The author of open source software desires, or is best 
 served, by royalties for all aggregate works.

The copyright holder has a variety of licencing types available and has 
the right to make it available in any way he or she sees fit.

 The wide-spread adoption of GPLd software in the wireless sphere (such as 
 that by Broadcom) is not -necessarily- based on the technical superiority of 
 Linux, or GPLd software as a whole. As I was very interested in why vendors 
 were using Linux on embedded devices, and not, say, NetBSD, I asked a friend 
 of mine who formerly worked at devicescape Software, Inc -- a supplier of 
 software for wireless devices. While devicescape did seriously consider 
 NetBSD, they decided to base their product on Linux for a very simple 
 reason: Foreign hardware vendors know the Linux brand, and that sold 
 software. Their choice had more to do with brand recognition than technical 
 superiority or licensing.

That's all very well, however if Devicescape did not make those vendors 
aware of their licensing compliance requirements those vendors may well 
have a legal case against the company for failing to disclose all the
conditions of sale.

D-link recently tried to defend GPL violations in a German court by 
claiming that the GPL was not legally binding and were informed by the 
judge in no uncertain terms that they were incorrect.


 It is more difficult to address the notion of a user's moral right to 
 aggregate work

But far easier to address the issue of the user's LEGAL rights.

 The BSD license short-circuits the limited, artificial copyright 
 monopoly -- opening your contribution to the world for *immediate* use 
 by all comers, for all purposes.

Including claiming full copyright on derivative code and preventing it 
being used elsewhere.

In most circles this is known as profiting upon the work of others, 
however if you wish to use the BSD license then that is your choice.

Many years ago, I released code under BSD - and saw it disappear into 
companies, become closed source and rereleased under proprietary 
agreements, benefitting those companies, but not the greater community.

 The GPL does not. I choose the BSD license when I believe 
 that I will gain more by allowing immediate, unlimited, unrestricted 
 aggregate work.

However you leave your codebase open to being incorporated into 3rd party 
closed source packages. That is your choice.

 I do not claim that this is the best choice, merely a reasoned one 
 designed to gain maximum personal benefit. If you wish for royalties on 
 commercial, close-source use of your work, you would likely choose 
 otherwise.

As Microsoft chose... (often on the back of BSD-license networking code)

 Lastly, there is the aphorism that the GPL will lead to more vendor 
 contribution than a more permissive license. I do not believe that licensing 
 is a primary motivator in the decision to open source software in most (not 
 all!) 

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Georg C. F. Greve]

Hi all,

 || On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 07:18:52 +0100
 || Kern Sibbald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

 ks Yes, this is not a secret list so the information will go out,
 ks but hopefully no one will post it to a public news site until
 ks after their announcement (in the next week if I am not mistaken).

The FTF announcement has just gone out [1] so its existance is no
longer a secret, although we have not yet mentioned the plans to
accept Bacula as our first major fiduciary project and would prefer to
make another announcement about this in a week or so.

Regards,
Georg


[1] http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/press-release/2006q4/000159.html

-- 
Georg C. F. Greve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Free Software Foundation Europe  (http://fsfeurope.org)
Join the Fellowship and protect your freedom! (http://www.fsfe.org)
What everyone should know about DRM   (http://DRM.info)


pgpgsZ6iMywUE.pgp
Description: PGP signature
-
Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier
Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Alan Brown]

On Fri, 10 Nov 2006, Les Mikesell wrote:

 Is a non-free version a big issue for you?  I've always been a big fan 
 of perl's dual-license approach which effectively removes the 
 restrictions of the GPL while allowing it to co-exist with GPL'd 
 components.  I think it's been a good thing for everyone.

My only concern would be any form of license which allows a vendor to 
ship Bacula as a closed-source proprietary product without Kern's 
permission and without paying him royalties.

This (to me) is the fundamental flaw of BSD-style licenses.(*)

The superiority of GPL-license community developed products over 
BSD-license ones is well illustrated by the shenanigans that several 
vendors (especially Broadcom!) have gotten up to in order to disguise 
GPL-cored products (particularly embedded systems using the Busybox 
package - see www.gpl-violations.org) and claim them as proprietary.

(*) That doesn't mean I think that GPLv3 is OK.

AB

-
Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier
Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Kern Sibbald]

On Monday 13 November 2006 14:57, Alan Brown wrote:
 On Mon, 13 Nov 2006, Kern Sibbald wrote:
 
  What I like about the agreement with FSFE is that it covers to a large 
extent
  this point. As it stands today, I'm not really much in a position to 
defend
  my copyright from a financial point of view, from a legal point of view, 
or
  from a point of view of motivation (i.e. enduring the agravation of a
  lawsuit).
 
 To put it bluntly anyone who violates the licensing agreement is a 
 software pirate.
 
 Software piracy is a criminal activity in most countries, usually with 
 some threshold for enforcement - but in the case of embedded systems 
 that's trivially reached

Well, I share your frustrations, but I'm not too sure that a copyright 
violation is a criminal offense.  

Even if it is a criminal offense, I suspect that most copyright violations 
(not just software) are resolved through civil proceedings.  In any case, if 
it is a criminal offense, I suspect that one would have a hard time getting 
the judicial system to accept/investigate a criminal copyright complaint in 
civil law countries like Switzerland except in the most wildly flagrant 
cases  ...

 
 So far there has been no criminal enforcement of GPL license violations 
 (surprise surprise) but I get the impression that various taiwanese makers 
 are edging ever-closer to it

What do you mean?  Are you saying that Taiwanese makers are in violation of 
license agreements?

 
 AB
 
 -
 Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
 Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job 
easier
 Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
 http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642
 ___
 Bacula-users mailing list
 Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
 

-
Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier
Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Kern Sibbald]

On Monday 13 November 2006 11:21, Alan Brown wrote:
 On Fri, 10 Nov 2006, Les Mikesell wrote:
 
  Is a non-free version a big issue for you?  I've always been a big fan 
  of perl's dual-license approach which effectively removes the 
  restrictions of the GPL while allowing it to co-exist with GPL'd 
  components.  I think it's been a good thing for everyone.
 
 My only concern would be any form of license which allows a vendor to 
 ship Bacula as a closed-source proprietary product without Kern's 
 permission and without paying him royalties.

What I like about the agreement with FSFE is that it covers to a large extent 
this point. As it stands today, I'm not really much in a position to defend 
my copyright from a financial point of view, from a legal point of view, or 
from a point of view of motivation (i.e. enduring the agravation of a 
lawsuit).  The agreement with FSFE really covers this quite nicely as they 
have every interest to defend Free Source, they have the legal expertise, and 
they (as indicated in their recent announcement) have a close working 
relationship with Harald Welte of gpl-violations.org.

Unless I am mistaken, what I give up for this extra protection is the ability 
to sign a closed-source proprietary deal and collect royalties, though I'm 
not 100% sure that I could not do so under the rights they give me in signing 
the agreement.  In any case, that is not really very important because I have 
always said from the beginning of the project that I was not doing this 
project to make money.  What motivates me a lot for this is the realization 
that creating any Bacula structure that was capable of holding the copright 
would take a significant amount of time (at least 6 months) and energy.  

See:
http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/press-release/2006q4/000159.html

for more details of the FSFE and gpl-violations.org relationship.

 
 This (to me) is the fundamental flaw of BSD-style licenses.(*)

Yes, I agree, and though theoretically FSFE could convert Bacula to a BSD 
license, I think that is about as probable as a metorite striking earth and 
destroying all life on the planet.

 
 The superiority of GPL-license community developed products over 
 BSD-license ones is well illustrated by the shenanigans that several 
 vendors (especially Broadcom!) have gotten up to in order to disguise 
 GPL-cored products (particularly embedded systems using the Busybox 
 package - see www.gpl-violations.org) and claim them as proprietary.
 
 (*) That doesn't mean I think that GPLv3 is OK.

Thanks for your comments.  

Kern

-
Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier
Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Alan Brown]

On Mon, 13 Nov 2006, Kern Sibbald wrote:

 To put it bluntly anyone who violates the licensing agreement is a
 software pirate.

 Software piracy is a criminal activity in most countries, usually with
 some threshold for enforcement - but in the case of embedded systems
 that's trivially reached

 Well, I share your frustrations, but I'm not too sure that a copyright
 violation is a criminal offense.

In most jurisdictions once the value exceeds a certain level (eg $50,000 
in the USA, lower levels in the EU) then it becomes a criminal matter if 
the copyright owner files complaints.

 Even if it is a criminal offense, I suspect that most copyright violations
 (not just software) are resolved through civil proceedings.

Correct. In fact the vast majority of them never get to court because the 
violator's lawyers will advise early settlement.

EG: Tomtom, Linksys...

 In any case, if it is a criminal offense, I suspect that one would have 
 a hard time getting the judicial system to accept/investigate a criminal 
 copyright complaint in civil law countries like Switzerland except in 
 the most wildly flagrant cases ...

Time will tell. :)

 So far there has been no criminal enforcement of GPL license violations
 (surprise surprise) but I get the impression that various taiwanese makers
 are edging ever-closer to it

 What do you mean?  Are you saying that Taiwanese makers are in violation of
 license agreements?

Yes. many seem unware of licensing rules, or simply ignore them.

USA corps also seem to try and claim that the GPL is not legally binding 
(eg Dlink), however such claims have always lost in court.

AB

-
Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier
Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Landon Fuller]

I'm going to wander off on a completely off-topic license discussion.  
I apologize in advance.


On Nov 13, 2006, at 02:21, Alan Brown wrote:


On Fri, 10 Nov 2006, Les Mikesell wrote:

Is a non-free version a big issue for you?  I've always been a big  
fan

of perl's dual-license approach which effectively removes the
restrictions of the GPL while allowing it to co-exist with GPL'd
components.  I think it's been a good thing for everyone.


My only concern would be any form of license which allows a vendor to
ship Bacula as a closed-source proprietary product without Kern's
permission and without paying him royalties.

This (to me) is the fundamental flaw of BSD-style licenses.(*)

The superiority of GPL-license community developed products over
BSD-license ones is well illustrated by the shenanigans that several
vendors (especially Broadcom!) have gotten up to in order to disguise
GPL-cored products (particularly embedded systems using the Busybox
package - see www.gpl-violations.org) and claim them as proprietary.


This argument is predicated on a few assumptions:

	1)	Vendor's usage of GPL software denotes blanket superiority of  
said software.
	2)	Users of software have a fundamental, moral right to not only the  
open source licensed implementations, but any aggregate work based  
atop those implementations.
	3a)	With the GPL, vendors will generally create a product based open  
source software, and then contribute their changes back to the  
projects in a usable form.
	3b)	Without the GPL, vendors will generally create a product based  
on open source software and NOT contribute their changes back to  
projects in a usable form.
	3c)	The author of open source software desires, or is best served,  
by royalties for all aggregate works.


The wide-spread adoption of GPLd software in the wireless sphere  
(such as that by Broadcom) is not -necessarily- based on the  
technical superiority of Linux, or GPLd software as a whole. As I was  
very interested in why vendors were using Linux on embedded devices,  
and not, say, NetBSD, I asked a friend of mine who formerly worked at  
devicescape Software, Inc -- a supplier of software for wireless  
devices. While devicescape did seriously consider NetBSD, they  
decided to base their product on Linux for a very simple reason:  
Foreign hardware vendors know the Linux brand, and that sold  
software. Their choice had more to do with brand recognition than  
technical superiority or licensing.


It is more difficult to address the notion of a user's moral right  
to aggregate work, and there's no correct answer. *My* answer is,  
however, that all work is aggregate -- Linux would not exist without  
Unix, Unix would not exist without Bell Labs, Bell Labs would not  
exist without Western Electric, Western Electric would not exist were  
it not for the industrial revolution -- ad infinitum. Within this  
framework, copyright exists as a limited monopoly on your individual  
culmination of aggregated work, for the purpose of encouraging  
contribution to the grand compendium of human production. The BSD  
license short-circuits the limited, artificial copyright monopoly --  
opening your contribution to the world for *immediate* use by all  
comers, for all purposes. The GPL does not. I choose the BSD license  
when I believe that I will gain more by allowing immediate,  
unlimited, unrestricted aggregate work. I do not claim that this is  
the best choice, merely a reasoned one designed to gain maximum  
personal benefit. If you wish for royalties on commercial, close- 
source use of your work, you would likely choose otherwise.


Lastly, there is the aphorism that the GPL will lead to more vendor  
contribution than a more permissive license. I do not believe that  
licensing is a primary motivator in the decision to open source  
software in most (not all!) cases. Let's assume logical, informed  
actors -- if a company is comfortable with open sourcing their own  
code, there are inherent motivators to doing so regardless of whether  
they are compelled by licensing. Maintaining a fork of a given piece  
of software is an expensive and time consuming proposition, whereas  
contributing code upstream eliminates the cost of maintaining local  
modifications, while distributing the cost of overall code  
maintenance. Alternatively, if a company is not comfortable with open  
sourcing their code, then they will avoid licenses that force them to  
do so entirely.


Of particular interest to me, however, is the border case -- a  
company that is not comfortable open sourcing their own body of work  
when linked against existing code, but is comfortable contributing  
improvements and changes to the open source code base. This case is  
well suited to an example, so I'll make one up -- let's blithely  
pretend that Apple is interested in supporting Bacula backups  
natively in Mac OS X. As Bacula's existing network protocol is prone  
to change and 

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Les Mikesell]

On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 05:27, Martin Simmons wrote:
  
  The LICENSE will not be changed, only the copyright holder, so Bacula will 
  continue to be distributed under GPL version 2 + a few additions that are 
  specified in the LICENSE file.  When GPL version 3 is released, we'll take 
  a 
  look at whether or not we want to use it (with input from Bacula users, of 
  course).
 
 I'm a bit confused about the connection between copyright ownership and the
 license.  Are there any issues with changing the license if you don't own the
 copyright?  Conversely, can the copyright owner change the license without
 consulting anyone else?

Copyright owners can release a work under different licenses
at the same or different times.  However with a work that
has been released under any sort of public license it would
be pretty difficult to prove that parts of the code were
not actually owned by other contributors unless the
person claiming ownership has been careful to obtain
copyright assignments from anything he has accepted and
included from others.

-- 
  Les Mikesell
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]



-
Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier
Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Kern Sibbald]

On Friday 10 November 2006 12:27, Martin Simmons wrote:
  On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 07:18:52 +0100, Kern Sibbald said:
  
  The LICENSE will not be changed, only the copyright holder, so Bacula will 
  continue to be distributed under GPL version 2 + a few additions that are 
  specified in the LICENSE file.  When GPL version 3 is released, we'll take 
a 
  look at whether or not we want to use it (with input from Bacula users, of 
  course).
 
 I'm a bit confused about the connection between copyright ownership and the
 license.  Are there any issues with changing the license if you don't own 
the copyright?  

 Conversely, can the copyright owner change the license without 
 consulting anyone else?

Yes, theoretically only the copyright holder(s) can change the license.  
However, the FSFE agreement is a fiduciary relationship, which is entered 
into for the purpose of protecting and defending the copyright.  They leave 
the project management up to the project.  Legally, they can change the 
license, but their intention is to change it only if the project wants to 
change it, or to be able to change the license if the project no longer 
exists and someone comes and tries to scoop up the code and make it non-free.

As mentioned above, it is possible they could change the license while the 
project is active, but this would not be in their interest as it would 
generate some rather negative publicity.  If their goal were to have all 
software under GPL, then I might be more worried about this, but they have 
explictly stated that they accept any free software license.

-
Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier
Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Kern Sibbald]

On Friday 10 November 2006 15:01, Les Mikesell wrote:
 On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 05:27, Martin Simmons wrote:
   
   The LICENSE will not be changed, only the copyright holder, so Bacula 
will 
   continue to be distributed under GPL version 2 + a few additions that 
are 
   specified in the LICENSE file.  When GPL version 3 is released, we'll 
take a 
   look at whether or not we want to use it (with input from Bacula users, 
of 
   course).
  
  I'm a bit confused about the connection between copyright ownership and 
the
  license.  Are there any issues with changing the license if you don't own 
the
  copyright?  Conversely, can the copyright owner change the license without
  consulting anyone else?
 
 Copyright owners can release a work under different licenses
 at the same or different times.  However with a work that
 has been released under any sort of public license it would
 be pretty difficult to prove that parts of the code were
 not actually owned by other contributors unless the
 person claiming ownership has been careful to obtain
 copyright assignments from anything he has accepted and
 included from others.

Well, I have been pretty careful in regard to getting copyright assignments 
from any major contribution (i.e. more than 20% of any single file).  In more 
recent times, the copyright assignments are explicitly signed, in some older 
cases, it is by email or the fact that the author of the code explicitly 
copyrighted it under my name.  There is some cleanup work to be done, so I 
suspect that some of the previous contributors may be contacted by FSFE (to 
be worked out).

In any case, the Bacula copyright assignment policy has been clearly spelled 
out from the beginning of the project in the Developer's guide.

-
Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier
Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Les Mikesell]

On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 15:21 +0100, Kern Sibbald wrote:

 Yes, theoretically only the copyright holder(s) can change the license.  
 However, the FSFE agreement is a fiduciary relationship, which is entered 
 into for the purpose of protecting and defending the copyright.  They leave 
 the project management up to the project.  Legally, they can change the 
 license, but their intention is to change it only if the project wants to 
 change it, or to be able to change the license if the project no longer 
 exists and someone comes and tries to scoop up the code and make it non-free.

Is a non-free version a big issue for you?  I've always been a big fan
of perl's dual-license approach which effectively removes the
restrictions
of the GPL while allowing it to co-exist with GPL'd components.  I think
it's been a good thing for everyone.

-- 
  Les Mikesell
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]



-
Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier
Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Kern Sibbald]

On Friday 10 November 2006 18:03, Les Mikesell wrote:
 On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 15:21 +0100, Kern Sibbald wrote:
 
  Yes, theoretically only the copyright holder(s) can change the license.  
  However, the FSFE agreement is a fiduciary relationship, which is entered 
  into for the purpose of protecting and defending the copyright.  They 
leave 
  the project management up to the project.  Legally, they can change the 
  license, but their intention is to change it only if the project wants to 
  change it, or to be able to change the license if the project no longer 
  exists and someone comes and tries to scoop up the code and make it 
non-free.
 
 Is a non-free version a big issue for you?  I've always been a big fan
 of perl's dual-license approach which effectively removes the
 restrictions
 of the GPL while allowing it to co-exist with GPL'd components.  I think
 it's been a good thing for everyone.
 

I'm not aware of what Perl's dual license is.  If it is something like what 
MySQL does, i.e. offer special versions for a price, then I'm not very 
enthousiastic about that kind of model for Bacula.  Nor would I like to see 
some Venture Capital effort come along and snap up Bacula as they have done 
for Amanda.  I also don't particularly like the BSD licenses as they don't 
require a tit for a tat as Linus calls it.  I have no problem with others 
chosing the license and business model they want, but it is not what I have 
wanted and continue to want for Bacula.  MySQL models result in a project 
that is no longer driven by contributions, but is driven by paid employees 
from commercial revenues.  BSD type licenses don't guarantee that the 
project remains Free Source (e.g., if I am not mistaken, the Microsoft 
networking code was pulled from the BSD stack, but none of their fixes or 
enhancements have gone back to the community that provided them the code for 
free).

The parts of Bacula that I feel could be used in proprietary code to interface 
to Bacula are released under LGPL so that vendors can develop proprietary 
code to interface with Bacula without starting from scratch.

-
Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier
Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Les Mikesell]

On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 19:41 +0100, Kern Sibbald wrote:
  
  Is a non-free version a big issue for you?  I've always been a big fan
  of perl's dual-license approach which effectively removes the
  restrictions
  of the GPL while allowing it to co-exist with GPL'd components.  I think
  it's been a good thing for everyone.
  
 
 I'm not aware of what Perl's dual license is.  If it is something like what 
 MySQL does, i.e. offer special versions for a price, then I'm not very 
 enthousiastic about that kind of model for Bacula. 

The other one is called the 'Artistic' license and is very BSD-like in
permitting unrestricted distribution.  By allowing your choice of
distribution license terms it cleverly avoids the trap of prohibiting
useful combinations with either gpl'd or non-gpl'd code.  Someone can
make a commercial version of perl and not distribute source, but they
can't prohibit anyone else from continuing to distribute under the
GPL - and there are no issues with linking with commercial libraries
like database clients.

  Nor would I like to see 
 some Venture Capital effort come along and snap up Bacula as they have done 
 for Amanda.  I also don't particularly like the BSD licenses as they don't 
 require a tit for a tat as Linus calls it.

That's a matter of religion, I guess.  I see enough examples of free
code and products like X, NFS, firefox, openoffice and java that would
never have been started if GPL had been a requirement that I can't
believe the requirement is necessary or even a good thing.  But, I
personally think that the existence of OS-X is a good thing even
if all of it's code does not make it back to freebsd - opinions 
will differ about that. 

-- 
   Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-
Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier
Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Kern Sibbald]

On Friday 10 November 2006 20:16, Les Mikesell wrote:
 On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 19:41 +0100, Kern Sibbald wrote:
   
   Is a non-free version a big issue for you?  I've always been a big fan
   of perl's dual-license approach which effectively removes the
   restrictions
   of the GPL while allowing it to co-exist with GPL'd components.  I think
   it's been a good thing for everyone.
   
  
  I'm not aware of what Perl's dual license is.  If it is something like 
what 
  MySQL does, i.e. offer special versions for a price, then I'm not very 
  enthousiastic about that kind of model for Bacula. 
 
 The other one is called the 'Artistic' license and is very BSD-like in
 permitting unrestricted distribution.  By allowing your choice of
 distribution license terms it cleverly avoids the trap of prohibiting
 useful combinations with either gpl'd or non-gpl'd code.  Someone can
 make a commercial version of perl and not distribute source, but they
 can't prohibit anyone else from continuing to distribute under the
 GPL - and there are no issues with linking with commercial libraries
 like database clients.

Thanks for the clarification of the dual Perl license. 

For something like Perl their license probably works quite well.  However, in 
the case of Bacula, were it a BSD or other totally non-tit-for-tat license, I 
am convinced some commercial firm would snap it up and pocket millions 
selling it rebranded with a new snazzy front-end.  This is not something I 
would like to see.

 
   Nor would I like to see 
  some Venture Capital effort come along and snap up Bacula as they have 
done 
  for Amanda.  I also don't particularly like the BSD licenses as they don't 
  require a tit for a tat as Linus calls it.
 
 That's a matter of religion, I guess.  I see enough examples of free
 code and products like X, NFS, firefox, openoffice and java that would
 never have been started if GPL had been a requirement that I can't
 believe the requirement is necessary or even a good thing. 

It seems to me that you are mixing terms slightly by implying that X, NFS, 
firefox, ... are free code and that GPLed code is not free (anyway that is 
how I read the above).  I can see there are clear differences in the 
licenses, but unless you are interested in building commercial software 
around free code, I don't see any disadvantage to the GPL.  

 But, I 
 personally think that the existence of OS-X is a good thing even
 if all of it's code does not make it back to freebsd - opinions 
 will differ about that. 


I believe everyone should be able to chose his/her license.  In my case, I 
believe in the current GPL license that Bacula is using -- at least for 
Bacula.  Were this a small project, I would probably put the code in the 
Public Domain as I have previously done with small projects.

In any case, the current subject (or no subject) is who the copyright holder 
is going to be.  There is no planned change in the license.

-
Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier
Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Kern Sibbald]

Hello Arno,

Thanks for your comments. Please see below for my responses:

On Saturday 04 November 2006 22:42, Arno Lehmann wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On 11/4/2006 1:46 PM, Kern Sibbald wrote:
  Hello, 1 November 2006
  
  This contents of this email is for discussion on the Bacula email
  list, but not yet a topic for publication.
 
 Quite hard, regarding the number of list readers and open mailing list 
 archives. But then, this is not really vital, and we're only needing 
 confidentiality for a few weeks...

Yes, this is not a secret list so the information will go out, but hopefully 
no one will post it to a public news site until after their announcement (in 
the next week if I am not mistaken).

 
  As you are probably aware, I am planning certain reorganizations
  of the Bacula project for a number of reasons. ...
 Yes.
  Several months ago, I met with Georg Greve, the President of
  the Free Software Foundation Europe (FSFE). I learned that
  he was in the process of creating the FSFE Freedom Task Force
  to work with projects that would like to enter into a fiduciary
  license agreement with the FSFE with the objective to offload
  the adminstrative (legal) needs of the project to the FSFE
  while keeping the project adminstration unchanged.  The
  Freedom Task Force has been in operation since the beginning
  of October with Shane Coughlan heading it up.
  
  Probably the best explaination of their policy as it relates to
  Bacula is described in the FSFE Fiduciary Licensing Policy,
  which I have attached to this email in pdf format.
  
  A short summary of what I am proposing is:
  1. Transfer the Bacula copyright to the FSFE.
  2. There will be no change in the license, which is defined
 in the LICENSE file -- only the copyright holder will
 be changed.
  3. FSFE will look after the legal matters of maintaining and,
 if necessary, defending the license.
  4. Aside from the copyright assignments for important
 contributions, there will be no other changes to the
 project resulting from the copyright transfer.
  5. The final transfer of the copyright will occur on or
 shortly after the 15th of November and will apply to the
 next released version.
  6. The official announcement of the formation of the FSFE
 Freedom Task Force, and that Bacula will particpate
 in their Fiduciary Licensing will be made at the end
 of November.
 
 Sounds reasonable. I understand that this is about what you - and 
 probably many others - want, and it keeps you from setting op an 
 appropriate organization yourself. The FSFE gets their project going 
 with a renownded open-source project.
 
 Looks like a win-win situation :-)

Yes, that is how I see it too.

 
  My belief is that this copyright transfer will be beneficial
  to the project in many respects: assure that the source
  remains Free Software, ensure that the source is not tied
  to any single person, off load most of the legal tasks,
 
 That last one is quite important to me.
 
  ...
  
  If any of you have concerns, comments, or questions, please
  do not hesitate to voice them now, either on the Bacula email
  lists or directly to me.
 
 I always have a hard time working through this (semi-)legal stuff, so I 
 guess others may find important points.
 
 One regulation I don't especialy like, though, is the reference to the 
 GPL in the current version. While I personally like the GPL V. 2, I 
 see some possible problems with the upcoming, new version.
 
 Admittedly, I didn't follow the discussion very close, but as far as I 
 understand there are some things planned I don't think right. For that 
 reason I would prefer having Bacula under a GPL verson 2. YMMV, obviously.

The LICENSE will not be changed, only the copyright holder, so Bacula will 
continue to be distributed under GPL version 2 + a few additions that are 
specified in the LICENSE file.  When GPL version 3 is released, we'll take a 
look at whether or not we want to use it (with input from Bacula users, of 
course).

 
  I will take all comments
  and concerns into consideration and attempt to answer all the
  questions. Since I am on vacation and my Internet access is
  very limited, some or all my responses may be delayed until
  after my return on the 10th of November.
 
 Well, enjoy the remains of your holidays!

Thanks. I enjoyed them a lot. I'm back home, but will need a few days to 
recuperate and re-adjust to the cool weather ... :-)

-
Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier
Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Arno Lehmann]

Hi,

On 11/4/2006 1:46 PM, Kern Sibbald wrote:
 Hello, 1 November 2006
 
 This contents of this email is for discussion on the Bacula email
 list, but not yet a topic for publication.

Quite hard, regarding the number of list readers and open mailing list 
archives. But then, this is not really vital, and we're only needing 
confidentiality for a few weeks...

 As you are probably aware, I am planning certain reorganizations
 of the Bacula project for a number of reasons. ...
Yes.
 Several months ago, I met with Georg Greve, the President of
 the Free Software Foundation Europe (FSFE). I learned that
 he was in the process of creating the FSFE Freedom Task Force
 to work with projects that would like to enter into a fiduciary
 license agreement with the FSFE with the objective to offload
 the adminstrative (legal) needs of the project to the FSFE
 while keeping the project adminstration unchanged.  The
 Freedom Task Force has been in operation since the beginning
 of October with Shane Coughlan heading it up.
 
 Probably the best explaination of their policy as it relates to
 Bacula is described in the FSFE Fiduciary Licensing Policy,
 which I have attached to this email in pdf format.
 
 A short summary of what I am proposing is:
 1. Transfer the Bacula copyright to the FSFE.
 2. There will be no change in the license, which is defined
in the LICENSE file -- only the copyright holder will
be changed.
 3. FSFE will look after the legal matters of maintaining and,
if necessary, defending the license.
 4. Aside from the copyright assignments for important
contributions, there will be no other changes to the
project resulting from the copyright transfer.
 5. The final transfer of the copyright will occur on or
shortly after the 15th of November and will apply to the
next released version.
 6. The official announcement of the formation of the FSFE
Freedom Task Force, and that Bacula will particpate
in their Fiduciary Licensing will be made at the end
of November.

Sounds reasonable. I understand that this is about what you - and 
probably many others - want, and it keeps you from setting op an 
appropriate organization yourself. The FSFE gets their project going 
with a renownded open-source project.

Looks like a win-win situation :-)

 My belief is that this copyright transfer will be beneficial
 to the project in many respects: assure that the source
 remains Free Software, ensure that the source is not tied
 to any single person, off load most of the legal tasks,

That last one is quite important to me.

 ...
 
 If any of you have concerns, comments, or questions, please
 do not hesitate to voice them now, either on the Bacula email
 lists or directly to me.

I always have a hard time working through this (semi-)legal stuff, so I 
guess others may find important points.

One regulation I don't especialy like, though, is the reference to the 
GPL in the current version. While I personally like the GPL V. 2, I 
see some possible problems with the upcoming, new version.

Admittedly, I didn't follow the discussion very close, but as far as I 
understand there are some things planned I don't think right. For that 
reason I would prefer having Bacula under a GPL verson 2. YMMV, obviously.

 I will take all comments
 and concerns into consideration and attempt to answer all the
 questions. Since I am on vacation and my Internet access is
 very limited, some or all my responses may be delayed until
 after my return on the 10th of November.

Well, enjoy the remains of your holidays!

Arno

-- 
IT-Service Lehmann[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Arno Lehmann  http://www.its-lehmann.de

-
Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier
Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Arno Lehmann]

Hi,

On 10/9/2006 9:13 PM, Joe wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I've set up Bacula on a SuSE Linux 10.1 OSS machine using Smart Package.  
 Everything is working fine with the exception of automating the startup of 
 Bacula during the boot process.  I saw in the Bacula documentation on how to 
 compile the startup files but since I used the Smart Package to install 
 Bacula, I'm not sure if that is applicable.  I also searched the Bacula mail 
 lists looking for a post regarding a similar problem but they all presume 
 that you're compiling the whole package manually and therefore you can simply 
 compile the autostart files.
 
 If there is already a link describing how to do this, kindly point me in the 
 right direction.  If not, I hope you will be able to help me out with this.

Hmm. Do I understand this right that the package you installed does not 
have a startup script it installs?

If that's the case, consider reporting it as a bug to the packager.
The startup script does not ectly need to be compiled, it's a simple 
shell script.
You can easily create your own if you tape what you find in the Bacula 
cvs, available at sourceforge, and do some minima modifications. Oryou 
start with SuSE's skeleton startup script found in /etc/rc.d/skeleton 
and modifying it quite a lot... or you take whatever you find in other 
packages for SuSE.

If all this doesn't work for you, I'm sure someone has current startup 
scripts for SuSE and could mail them - the ones I use are heavily 
modified or I'd attach them here.

Arno

 
 Thanks for your help.
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 Sent via the WebMail system at secondmile.com
 
 
  

 
 -
 Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT
 Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your
 opinions on IT  business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash
 http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV
 ___
 Bacula-users mailing list
 Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

-- 
IT-Service Lehmann[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Arno Lehmann  http://www.its-lehmann.de

-
Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT
Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your
opinions on IT  business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash
http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Kern Sibbald]

On Monday 09 October 2006 21:59, Arno Lehmann wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On 10/9/2006 9:13 PM, Joe wrote:
  Hello,
  
  I've set up Bacula on a SuSE Linux 10.1 OSS machine using Smart Package.  
Everything is working fine with the exception of automating the startup of 
Bacula during the boot process.  I saw in the Bacula documentation on how to 
compile the startup files but since I used the Smart Package to install 
Bacula, I'm not sure if that is applicable.  I also searched the Bacula mail 
lists looking for a post regarding a similar problem but they all presume 
that you're compiling the whole package manually and therefore you can simply 
compile the autostart files.
  
  If there is already a link describing how to do this, kindly point me in 
the right direction.  If not, I hope you will be able to help me out with 
this.
 
 Hmm. Do I understand this right that the package you installed does not 
 have a startup script it installs?

Possibly the scripts were installed but they were not enabled so it might just 
be a matter of running Yast2 and enabling the appropriate daemons, or do it 
manually with chkconfig.

 
 If that's the case, consider reporting it as a bug to the packager.
 The startup script does not ectly need to be compiled, it's a simple 
 shell script.
 You can easily create your own if you tape what you find in the Bacula 
 cvs, available at sourceforge, and do some minima modifications. Oryou 
 start with SuSE's skeleton startup script found in /etc/rc.d/skeleton 
 and modifying it quite a lot... or you take whatever you find in other 
 packages for SuSE.
 
 If all this doesn't work for you, I'm sure someone has current startup 
 scripts for SuSE and could mail them - the ones I use are heavily 
 modified or I'd attach them here.
 
 Arno
 
  
  Thanks for your help.
  
   
  
  
  
  
  
  Sent via the WebMail system at secondmile.com
  
  
   
 
  
  -
  Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT
  Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share 
your
  opinions on IT  business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash
  http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV
  ___
  Bacula-users mailing list
  Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
  https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
 
 -- 
 IT-Service Lehmann[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Arno Lehmann  http://www.its-lehmann.de
 
 -
 Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT
 Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your
 opinions on IT  business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash
 http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV
 ___
 Bacula-users mailing list
 Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
 

-
Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT
Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your
opinions on IT  business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash
http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Frank Sweetser]

On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 06:32:51AM -0700, Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
 Greetings All,
 
 I am new to Bacula so please forgive my lack of knowledge.
 
 We are going to be working on setting up Bacula as our backup  
 disaster recover server and I was just wondering a few initial things 
 that perhaps someone could tell me as I have just started to read over 
 the manual.
 
 I am wondering if Bacula can be set up to give group reporting. What I 
 mean is that perhaps there is a department called sales and another 
 called billing, or whatever they may be called but the point is that 
 there may be many groups. Within these croups are various workstations. 
 What I am wondering is if Bacula can generate reports on the totals 
 stored from each group at a give time.

Out of the box, no.  However, bacula stores results in a straightforward
SQL database, which means that you should be able to generate any reports
you like without too much trouble.

-- 
Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu  |  For every problem, there is a solution that
WPI Network Engineer  |  is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken
GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4  E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

-
Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT
Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your
opinions on IT  business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash
http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Arno Lehmann]

Please, let this go through the list...

What's about the DIR log?

Arno

On 8/28/2006 1:28 PM, Rukshan Akalanka wrote:
 thanks for the quick reply,
  
 dir stats says just an error, nothing other than the previous message
 
  
 On 8/28/06, *Arno Lehmann* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 On 8/28/2006 1:05 PM, Rukshan Akalanka wrote:
   hi all,
  
   i'm running bacula 1.38.2 and getting an abnormal message for some FD
   when performing incremental backups. And for the same
 workstations i can
   take full backups. hope the .conf files are ok as this doesn't
 happen to
   all.
  
   this is the error
  
  
   22-Aug 07:29 store1-dir: Start Backup JobId 4628,
  
   Job=ABC-daily.2006-08-22_07.29.51
  
   22-Aug 07:29 store1-sd: Job ABC-daily.2006-08-22_07.29.51 waiting to
   reserve a device.
 
 This is rather informational, not an error.
 
   22-Aug 07:29 store1-dir: ABC-daily.2006-08-22_07.29.51 Error:
  
   message.c:652 Operator mail program terminated in error.
  
   CMD=/sbin/bsmtp -h localhost -f (Bacula) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s 
 Bacula:
  
   Intervention needed for ABC-daily.2006-08-22_07.29.51
 
 Ok, this is an error, but not a critical one, I think. The DIR tries to
 send the Waiting... message to the operator and bsmtp doesn't work.
 
 You should definitely investigate this, but it shouldn't stop a jo from
 running.
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   ERR=Child exited with code 1
  
 
 Does the job itself run? I.e., what does 'sta client=...' tell, and what
 are the status reports for SD and DIR?
 
 Arno
 
 
  
   --
   Rukshan
  
  
  
 
 
  
  
 -
   Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services,
 security?
   Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make
 your job easier
   Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache
 Geronimo
  
 http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642
 http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642
  
  
  
 
  
   ___
   Bacula-users mailing list
   Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 mailto:Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
   https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
 
 --
 IT-Service Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Arno Lehmann  http://www.its-lehmann.de
 
 -
 
 Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services,
 security?
 Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your
 job easier
 Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache
 Geronimo
 http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642
 http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642
 ___
 Bacula-users mailing list
 Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 mailto:Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
 https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Rukshan Akalanka Devendra

-- 
IT-Service Lehmann[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Arno Lehmann  http://www.its-lehmann.de

-
Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier
Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Rukshan Akalanka]

ok this is the SD log


Device status:
Device FileStorage (/bacula-storage) is not open or does not exist.
Device TempStorage (/tmp) is not open or does not exist.

is this normal???
-
Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier
Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Arno Lehmann]

Hi,

On 8/29/2006 1:20 PM, Rukshan Akalanka wrote:
 ok this is the SD log
  
 
 Device status:
 
 Device FileStorage (/bacula-storage) is not open or does not exist.
 
 Device TempStorage (/tmp) is not open or does not exist.
 
  
 
 is this normal???

Yes.

But this is not the log needed here. This is the status output from the 
SD. What I'd recommend to look at is the Directors log - what you set up 
in the messages section of the configuration, and where all job reports 
get written to.

Arno

 
 
 
 -
 Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
 Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier
 Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
 http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642
 
 
 
 
 ___
 Bacula-users mailing list
 Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

-- 
IT-Service Lehmann[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Arno Lehmann  http://www.its-lehmann.de

-
Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier
Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Arno Lehmann]

Hello,

On 8/28/2006 1:05 PM, Rukshan Akalanka wrote:
 hi all,
  
 i'm running bacula 1.38.2 and getting an abnormal message for some FD  
 when performing incremental backups. And for the same workstations i can 
 take full backups. hope the .conf files are ok as this doesn't happen to 
 all.
  
 this is the error
  
 
 22-Aug 07:29 store1-dir: Start Backup JobId 4628,
 
 Job=ABC-daily.2006-08-22_07.29.51
 
 22-Aug 07:29 store1-sd: Job ABC-daily.2006-08-22_07.29.51 waiting to 
 reserve a device.

This is rather informational, not an error.

 22-Aug 07:29 store1-dir: ABC-daily.2006-08-22_07.29.51 Error:
 
 message.c:652 Operator mail program terminated in error.
 
 CMD=/sbin/bsmtp -h localhost -f (Bacula) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s Bacula:
 
 Intervention needed for ABC-daily.2006-08-22_07.29.51

Ok, this is an error, but not a critical one, I think. The DIR tries to 
send the Waiting... message to the operator and bsmtp doesn't work.

You should definitely investigate this, but it shouldn't stop a jo from 
running.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 ERR=Child exited with code 1
 

Does the job itself run? I.e., what does 'sta client=...' tell, and what 
are the status reports for SD and DIR?

Arno


 
 -- 
 Rukshan
 
 
 
 
 -
 Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
 Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier
 Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
 http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642
 
 
 
 
 ___
 Bacula-users mailing list
 Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

-- 
IT-Service Lehmann[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Arno Lehmann  http://www.its-lehmann.de

-
Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier
Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Alan Brown]

On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Erik P. Olsen wrote:

 Schedule {
   Name = EveryOtherTuesday
   Run = Level=Full tue w00,w02,w04,w06,w08,w10,w12(etc to
 week 52) at 22:00
 }

 Some years have 53 weeks!

Every year has part of a 53rd week.

A Calendar year is 52 weeks and one day - or 52 weeks and 2 days on a leap 
year.

Put another way, it's 13 lunar (4 week) months and one/two days

The 1 day fuzz isn't going to matter - and if it does, just end 
with w52,w53

AB


-
Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT
Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your
opinions on IT  business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash
http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Erik P. Olsen]

Alan Brown wrote:
 On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
 
 Schedule {
   Name = EveryOtherTuesday
   Run = Level=Full tue w00,w02,w04,w06,w08,w10,w12(etc to
 week 52) at 22:00
 }
 Some years have 53 weeks!
 
 Every year has part of a 53rd week.
 
 A Calendar year is 52 weeks and one day - or 52 weeks and 2 days on a leap 
 year.
 
 Put another way, it's 13 lunar (4 week) months and one/two days
 
 The 1 day fuzz isn't going to matter - and if it does, just end 
 with w52,w53
 
Ah, I wasn't aware that Bacula does not follow the ISO standard for week 
numbering. I don't think it makes it any easier to use. People who are used to 
ISO week numbers should understand that the Bacula week numbers are normally 
not 
the same as those of ISO. I assume that the last week of the year (w52 or w53) 
is normally the same as w00 and if the year starts on a Monday will there then 
be a w00 at all?

-- 
Erik P. Olsen, Civilingeniør, MSc
Solsortvej 30, DK-2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark
Phone: +45 38346480, Fax: +45 38346470, Mobil: +45 40765300

-
Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT
Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your
opinions on IT  business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash
http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Kern Sibbald]

On Thursday 03 August 2006 13:25, Alan Brown wrote:
 On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
 
  Schedule {
Name = EveryOtherTuesday
Run = Level=Full tue w00,w02,w04,w06,w08,w10,w12(etc to
  week 52) at 22:00
  }
 
  Some years have 53 weeks!
 
 Every year has part of a 53rd week.
 
 A Calendar year is 52 weeks and one day - or 52 weeks and 2 days on a leap 
 year.
 
 Put another way, it's 13 lunar (4 week) months and one/two days
 
 The 1 day fuzz isn't going to matter - and if it does, just end 
 with w52,w53

If I remember right, Bacula uses the ISO week number definition standard, 
which has only 52 weeks, so w53 is probably not valid.  However, if I am not 
mistaken, the w00 is not ISO, and I put that in to cover the days before the 
first official ISO week -- i.e. the last part at the end of the year (or the 
first part before the beginning of the year).

 
 AB
 
 
 -
 Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT
 Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your
 opinions on IT  business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash
 http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV
 ___
 Bacula-users mailing list
 Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
 

-
Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT
Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your
opinions on IT  business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash
http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Erik P. Olsen]

Kern Sibbald wrote:
 On Thursday 03 August 2006 13:25, Alan Brown wrote:
 On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Erik P. Olsen wrote:

 Schedule {
   Name = EveryOtherTuesday
   Run = Level=Full tue w00,w02,w04,w06,w08,w10,w12(etc to
 week 52) at 22:00
 }
 Some years have 53 weeks!
 Every year has part of a 53rd week.

 A Calendar year is 52 weeks and one day - or 52 weeks and 2 days on a leap 
 year.

 Put another way, it's 13 lunar (4 week) months and one/two days

 The 1 day fuzz isn't going to matter - and if it does, just end 
 with w52,w53
 
 If I remember right, Bacula uses the ISO week number definition standard, 
 which has only 52 weeks, so w53 is probably not valid.  However, if I am not 
 mistaken, the w00 is not ISO, and I put that in to cover the days before the 
 first official ISO week -- i.e. the last part at the end of the year (or the 
 first part before the beginning of the year).
 

No, look at Jan 1st 2005, that day falls in week 53 of year 2004 according to 
ISO standard because it was a Saturday and hence the Tursday of that week fell 
in 2004. w53 is indeed valid at least in the ISO standard.

If Dec 31st is not a Sunday w52 or w53 will stretch into the following year. Is 
it so that w00 then is defined as the part of w52 or w53 which falls before Jan 
1st?

-- 
Erik P. Olsen, Civilingeniør, MSc
Solsortvej 30, DK-2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark
Phone: +45 38346480, Fax: +45 38346470, Mobil: +45 40765300

-
Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT
Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your
opinions on IT  business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash
http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Attila Fülöp]

Kern Sibbald wrote:
 On Thursday 03 August 2006 13:25, Alan Brown wrote:
 
On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Erik P. Olsen wrote:


Schedule {
  Name = EveryOtherTuesday
  Run = Level=Full tue w00,w02,w04,w06,w08,w10,w12(etc to
week 52) at 22:00
}

Some years have 53 weeks!

Every year has part of a 53rd week.

A Calendar year is 52 weeks and one day - or 52 weeks and 2 days on a leap 
year.

Put another way, it's 13 lunar (4 week) months and one/two days

The 1 day fuzz isn't going to matter - and if it does, just end 
with w52,w53
 
 
 If I remember right, Bacula uses the ISO week number definition standard, 
 which has only 52 weeks, so w53 is probably not valid.

Nope, see 2004 which has 53 weeks.

 However, if I am not 
 mistaken, the w00 is not ISO, and I put that in to cover the days before the 
 first official ISO week -- i.e. the last part at the end of the year (or the 
 first part before the beginning of the year).

ISO says this (w00) is the last week of the previous year (52 or 53)

cited from http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-time.html :

Week 01 of a year is per definition the first week that has the Thursday in
this year, which is equivalent to the week that contains the fourth day of
January. In other words, the first week of a new year is the week that has
the majority of its days in the new year. Week 01 might also contain days
from the previous year and the week before week 01 of a year is the last week
(52 or 53) of the previous year even if it contains days from the new year.
A week starts with Monday (day 1) and ends with Sunday (day 7)

 
AB


-
Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT
Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your
opinions on IT  business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash
http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

 
 
 -
 Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT
 Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your
 opinions on IT  business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash
 http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV
 ___
 Bacula-users mailing list
 Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
 
 


-
Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT
Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your
opinions on IT  business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash
http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Martin Simmons]

 On Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:29:33 +, Mario Lobo said:
 
 Hi;
 
 Would anyone know how to setup a schedule for a full backup every other 
 tuesday for instance?

Have a look at the file examples/backup-every-other-week.txt in the Bacula
distribution for ideas.

__Martin

-
Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT
Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your
opinions on IT  business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash
http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Jo Rhett]

Schedule {
 Name = EveryOtherTuesday
 Run = Level=Full 1st,3rd tue at 22:00
}

This won't work for months with 5 tuesdays, but unless I'm misreading  
the bitmask used for schedules it isn't possible right now.

The alternative is to schedule the job using a script as documented  
several times on this mailing list.

On Aug 2, 2006, at 1:29 AM, Mario Lobo wrote:
 Would anyone know how to setup a schedule for a full backup every  
 other
 tuesday for instance?

 Thanks

 Mario

 -- 
 ---
 Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT
 Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to  
 share your
 opinions on IT  business topics through brief surveys -- and earn  
 cash
 http://www.techsay.com/default.php? 
 page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV
 ___
 Bacula-users mailing list
 Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

-- 
Jo Rhett
senior geek
Silicon Valley Colocation


-
Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT
Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your
opinions on IT  business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash
http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Jo Rhett]

Sorry, I'm an idiot.  It's totally possible

Schedule {
  Name = EveryOtherTuesday
  Run = Level=Full tue w00,w02,w04,w06,w08,w10,w12(etc to  
week 52) at 22:00
}

On Aug 2, 2006, at 12:30 PM, Jo Rhett wrote:
 Schedule {
  Name = EveryOtherTuesday
  Run = Level=Full 1st,3rd tue at 22:00
 }

 This won't work for months with 5 tuesdays, but unless I'm misreading
 the bitmask used for schedules it isn't possible right now.

 The alternative is to schedule the job using a script as documented
 several times on this mailing list.

 On Aug 2, 2006, at 1:29 AM, Mario Lobo wrote:
 Would anyone know how to setup a schedule for a full backup every
 other
 tuesday for instance?

 Thanks

 Mario

 - 
 -
 ---
 Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT
 Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to
 share your
 opinions on IT  business topics through brief surveys -- and earn
 cash
 http://www.techsay.com/default.php?
 page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV
 ___
 Bacula-users mailing list
 Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

 -- 
 Jo Rhett
 senior geek
 Silicon Valley Colocation


 -- 
 ---
 Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT
 Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to  
 share your
 opinions on IT  business topics through brief surveys -- and earn  
 cash
 http://www.techsay.com/default.php? 
 page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV
 ___
 Bacula-users mailing list
 Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

-- 
Jo Rhett
senior geek
Silicon Valley Colocation


-
Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT
Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your
opinions on IT  business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash
http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Martin Simmons]

 On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 09:17:23 -0700 (PDT),   said:
 
 After moving my catalog from one postgres server to a new one I am now 
 getting the
 following warnings (but the backups seem to be working):
 
 27-Jun 19:09 fileserver-dir: user-private.2006-06-27_19.09.19 Error:
 sql_create.c:470 More than one Client!: 2
 27-Jun 19:09 fileserver-dir: No prior Full backup Job record found.
 27-Jun 19:09 fileserver-dir: No prior or suitable Full backup found. Doing 
 FULL
 backup.
 27-Jun 19:09 fileserver-dir: Start Backup JobId 1592,
 Job=user-private.2006-06-27_19.09.19
 27-Jun 19:09 fileserver-dir: user-private.2006-06-27_19.09.19 Error:
 sql_create.c:470 More than one Client!: 2
 27-Jun 19:09 fileserver-sd: Volume Users0010 previously written, moving to 
 end of
 data.
 
 snip
 
 28-Jun 00:41 fileserver-sd: Sending spooled attrs to the Director. Despooling
 1,869,813 bytes ...
 28-Jun 00:42 fileserver-dir: user-private.2006-06-27_20.30.00 Error: 
 sql_get.c:635
 More than one Client!: 2
 28-Jun 00:42 fileserver-dir: user-private.2006-06-27_20.30.00 Warning: Error 
 getting
 client record for stats: sql_get.c:635 More than one Client!: 2
 28-Jun 00:42 fileserver-dir: Bacula 1.38.9 (02May06): 28-Jun-2006 00:42:01
 
 
 Any Ideas? 

How did you move the catalog?  My guess is that the sequence generators
associated with the serial columns have been reset to 1 somehow.

Your catalog (with duplicate client ids) is probably unusable for restores
now, unfortunately.

__Martin

Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier
Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Florian Schnabel]

Bart Schelstraete wrote:

Hi,

I have another question.
I want to use Bacula so that it writes the backup to a file, which isn't a
problem.
But the file should have a maximum of 70G, which is also not a problem :)
But what I want is that Bacula keeps re-using the file.
So : Take backups till the 70 G is full - remove the older parts - use the
parts which were freed up.

I thought that this could be done with pruning, but I can't get it working.
I've set the file pruning after 2days, and the job pruning after 3 days..but
the files keeps filling until the 70g is used.

Anybody who can help me?

B


i don't think this is a good idea anyway ... the file will get framented 
a LOT over time that way


Florian


---
This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language
that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast
and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory!
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Arno Lehmann]

Hello,

On 3/14/2006 11:42 PM, Wolfgang Denk wrote:

Hello,

I do full and differential backups on SLR100  tape,  but  incremental
ones on DDS-3; when trying to restore a full set I get this:

Warning, the JobIds that you selected refer to more than one MediaType.
Restore is not possible. The MediaTypes used are:
SLR100
DDS-3

Ummm... bacula can access the media just fine for backup, so why does
it complain on restore?


Because the current stable versions can do restores from only one device.

This is, AFAIR, documented somewhere and has been discussed on this list 
some time ago. Multiple times, in fact.


The work around is to either run several restore jobs manually, each 
refering to the jobs on each media.


In the setup you use (I use something similar) it's rather easy, first 
run the full and differential ones, then start a restore with the 
incremental jobs following the differential one. This might lead to a 
somewhat longer restore process as it's possible that files are restored 
twice, but should work ok.


The other solution is to manually modify the bootstrap file created 
after the initial restore setup and to split it in two parts. The first 
one should contain only references to your SLR tapes, and the DDS parts 
are saved in a second bootstrap file which you run in a second job.


This requires some understanding of how bootstrap files work, obviously.

The underlying limitation will, as far as I know, be removed in the 
upcoming versions and is already removed in the current development 
version, so it shouldn't take long until a setup with multiple storage 
devices in a restore works seamless.


Arno



Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk



--
IT-Service Lehmann[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Arno Lehmann  http://www.its-lehmann.de


---
This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language
that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast
and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory!
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

[Arno Lehmann]

Hello,

On 3/14/2006 11:53 PM, Meidal, Knut wrote:

Will it work to explicitly restore by jobID, and do it in 2 different
restore sessions, one for the latest full and one for all the incr after the
latest full?

I cannot test this myself, as I don't have a bacula environment at this
time. 


Conceptual question: When Bacula get disk-based backups working to
perfection, I can see sending full directly to tape, and staging
incrementals on disk. In this scenario, it would be a good thing if Bacula
could handle the different media types during restore. Anybody done any
thinking about that?


Definitely.

As far as I know this will work with the next version as it's one of the 
key components of a D2D2T setup, or, in other words, migrating data 
through a chain of media pools using different media types.


Arno


Knut

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wolfgang
Denk
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:42 PM
To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Bacula-users] (no subject)


Hello,

I do full and differential backups on SLR100  tape,  but  incremental
ones on DDS-3; when trying to restore a full set I get this:

Warning, the JobIds that you selected refer to more than one
MediaType.
Restore is not possible. The MediaTypes used are:
SLR100
DDS-3

Ummm... bacula can access the media just fine for backup, so why does
it complain on restore?

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk



--
IT-Service Lehmann[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Arno Lehmann  http://www.its-lehmann.de


---
This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language
that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast
and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory!
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users