Berners used as therapy dogs
Hello everyone: I am signing up for training to use my dog for therapy work. I am a Clinical Social Worker and use animals in my practice. I have two Berners and two talking parrots. The parrots mimic my puppies and with their combined sounds I feel like Animal Kingdom has arrived in my home. I was wondering if anyone on the list can share any experiences of using their Berner for therapy work? Thanks Mark Mohapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lake Geneva, WI Chloe age 5 1/2 Moraage 4
Oooppss Sorry Lynne
Now this is what I get for jumping into over-drive, totally panic striken that I only had a few weeks to get my ad done, donations sent, on top of pictures completed, entries filled out etc I neglected to scan the rest of the "L" before my email.. Whew! So glad it's still the 15th for these deadlines, but s sorry to the list and Lynne for my panic laden 2003 deadline post. :-/ Peg Dale & Peg McQueary Thundering Pines Bernese Mtn Dogs http://www.geocities.com/thunderingpinesbernese/index.htm Northern California U.S.A.
2003 Deadlines
Hi Lynne, I just read your post on berner-l and have a few questions. >From the forms that I printed off the 2003 site, it says catalog ad deadline is Feb 15th... Trophy donations are due by the 15th as well.. Were these recently changed? If so, please let me know ASAP Thanks :o) Peg!~ Dale & Peg McQueary Thundering Pines Bernese Mtn Dogs http://www.geocities.com/thunderingpinesbernese/index.htm Northern California U.S.A.
Re: BERNER-L digest 4212
I will be traveling to our New York office on Tuesday, January 7, and unable to access email during this time. I will gladly respond to your email on Wednesday, January 8. If you need immediate assistance, please contact my Assistant, Mariam Kaviani, at extension 7711 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you. >>> berner-l 01/06/03 22:01 >>> BERNER-L Digest 4212 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: exercise and teenagers QUESTION by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) Re: exercise and teenagers QUESTION by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) Specialty Planning Booklet! by RM Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4) Re: Berner Calendar 2003 by wendy beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 5) Re: BERNER-L digest 4211 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6) Re: Credit for Brags by <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7) News about PennHIP by "Pat Long & Paul Dangel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8) Puppies Available - not on the Berner-L! by "Pat Long & Paul Dangel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9) specialty by "Andrea Brin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10) Planning Booklets by "Lynne Hawkinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11) unsubscribe by "tom affolter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12) unsubscribe by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13) Re: specialty by "Lynne Hawkinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 14) Re: Portrait Photos by "Susan Wilkinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 15) Re: Credit for Brags and Raffle by "Dr. William B. Neff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 16) Nika update (colon bleed) by "Carol Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 17) MATCHING TICKETS!! by "Dr. William B. Neff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 18) Specialty Deadline OOPS by "Lynne Hawkinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 19) IMPORTANT Specialty Hotel Information by "Lynne Hawkinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 20) Re: Berners and Young Children by "Alan & Susan Kowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Berners and Young Children
A doggie psychic we once visited at a fundraiser summed it up well. On meeting Mercedes she said "This isn't 'your' dog. You are part of 'her' pack. She'll never go off with anyone else. She knows where she belongs." Then she met Bentley and immediately said "Now He's Your Dog!" Mercedes is fond of all of us. One special ritual with my husband involves going out for the paper in the morning. She's positively frantic about showing him the door if he seems to be putting it off. He also does the bathing. (You may have read Pat's post about assembly line dog washing - - one washes, one towels them off etc. We do this too.) Things like this helped them to bond. Then, as with kids, the dogs get so excited when Dad comes home at the end of the day. Alan even went to a handling class and showed Mercedes once. It was a disaster. Her nose was glued to the ground the entire time and she was a complete idiot on the leash too, but she got blue ribbons both days for being the only Berner girl in her age range at the shows that weekend! Bentley is absolutely glued to me. He loves everybody, but really makes a spectacle of himself making sure he always knows where I am and being between me and anyone and anything else. I have to admit I find this flattering and delightful. He also plays with all the kids who come over. Whether or not there are kids in the house I'll bet people on the Berner-l have lots of variations on this theme and I'd be interested in hearing them. Susan Kowitz, Mercedes, and Bentley Sequim, WA >>>Do you find, being that you were home with the kids and puppies, that your bonds with Mercedes and Bentley are stronger than your husbands? Do the dogs favor you?<<<
IMPORTANT Specialty Hotel Information
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Specialty Deadline OOPS
Deadline OOPS. The deadline for ads and trophy donations is February 15 - not February 1. Lynne - Original Message - > The 2003 Specialty is early this year so please pay special attention to deadlines. > > February 1, 2003 is the deadline to submit your ad for the catalog. It is also the deadline for recognition in the catalog for your trophy donations and to pay for any trophy you already pledged. > > Lynne Hawkinson > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.bmdcaspecialty.org/2003
MATCHING TICKETS!!
A generous cnonymous donor has graciously donated $100 to the raffle and has said that all of the tickets can go to the next person who donates $100 to the BARC LOC Challenge Fundraiser. The postmark on the envelope must be on or after January 7, 2002 in order to qualify for the double tickets. Here is the website soyou can see how to enter and also to see the wonderful 83 items in the fundraiser: http://www.overthefence.com/raffle/BARC/ I'll be waiting for your checks Joye Neff (Samantha and Ben) Mt. Lebanon, Pittsburgh, PA
Nika update (colon bleed)
Nika is s-l-o-w-l-y improving. I'm getting her up every 2 hours and walking her for 5 minutes. She seems to enjoy it even though she moves very slowly. She's rubbing her head against my leg so I know she's itching. The swelling or toxins seem to be oozing out of her pores so she stays wet under her arms, neck and on her stomach. Her ears have also scabbed. She is prone to hot spots so we're concerned. She is on one of those foam egg crates that's covered by blankets. We're trying to prevent joint sores and hope the blankets will absorb the moisture (and keep her from chewing on the egg crate although she doesn't feel good enough for that.)I'm drying her off with towels and putting gold bond powder on her. Any suggestions for help here will be greatly appreciated. We don't want to put her back on meds. Thanks for all the food suggestions. We've tried several to no avail. She has actually eaten about 1/2 cup of her dog food out of my hand today. Yippee. Carol Bailey
Re: Credit for Brags and Raffle
Since I know that my dogs will give me lots to brag about this year, I was thinking that perhaps I could send another check to the BARC/LOC raffle for future brags -- would this be permitted??? * Would this be PERMITTED???Not only would it be permitted, but it would be ENCOURAGED I am always happy to collect money for BARC and LOC..so BRAG ON, Mary-Annand send me your check. Besides I always love to read the Brag Messages - it's just further proof that Berners are exceptional dogs in so many ways. Joye Neff (Samantha and Ben) Mt. Lebanon, Pittsburgh, PA
Re: Portrait Photos
I'll second everything that Pat said about Joye!! At the Specialty in West Virginia, one of the reasons I took my dogs was so that we could get Pat Long photos done (and they're GORGEOUS! ~ the head shot of Aeryn is totally stunning). What Pat didn't mention was that she was up, down, and crawling around to get those shots -- nearly as much up & down as Joye was doing. I showed up on the Thurs. a.m. with my motley crew of 3 ~ Aeryn a little freaked at all the crawling around, but at least she knows sit, down, and stay; Devyn, 10 mos. old Eng. Cocker, sit he could do, but stay was only in his vocabularly for about 2 seconds, and that was with Joye holding onto his little wriggling tail; and rescue dog Rowyn, Berner X & also 10 mos. old that I had picked up only about 12 hours before and he knew absolutely nothing, it was about his 1st time even on a leash really! You'd never know it by the photos ~ I've got individual shots, pair shots, and trio shots; each one of them wonderful! You'd swear they'd been a family group of 3 for years instead of just hours. Trust me, Pat and Joye work like, well dogs, taking those pictures. But the results, both in the quality of the photos and the money raised for health issues, are well worth it. Thank you ladies sue(Aeryn with Devyn & Rowyn ~ the 2 boys still aren't real good at "stay", but we're working on it!)
Re: specialty
Andrea, Volunteer information and the contact person is on the 2003 web page http://www.bmdcaspecialty.org/2003/ Click on "Volunteers" to the right. Lynne Hawkinson - Original Message - > how do i get a planning guide. also who do i speak with about volunteering? > andrea, woofit and chi > > shavertown, pa > > http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/
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Planning Booklets
Check your mailbox! The 2003 BMDCA Specialty Planning Booklets were mailed Friday, January 3rd and will be arriving in your mailed box within the next few days. If you are a BMDCA member you will automatically receive a Planning Book. If you are not a member and would like to receive one please e-mail Marcia Zuger - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - your name and address and one will be mailed. The 2003 Specialty is early this year so please pay special attention to deadlines. February 1, 2003 is the deadline to submit your ad for the catalog. It is also the deadline for recognition in the catalog for your trophy donations and to pay for any trophy you already pledged. Anyone interested in submitting an ad please contact Laura Woosley - [EMAIL PROTECTED] We really need trophy donations. Please consider donating to the trophy fund! To find out what classes are available contact Sue German - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - or surf the 2003 web page - http://www.bmdcaspecialty.org/2003 Lynne Hawkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bmdcaspecialty.org/2003
specialty
how do i get a planning guide. also who do i speak with about volunteering? andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/
Puppies Available - not on the Berner-L!
Sad to say, the Berner-L may NOT be used for any commercial purposes, and that includes attempting to sell puppies. In the agreement that you accepted to be on this List, you will find explicit reference to this: "The mailing list is not a place to find puppies or offer your dog for mating services. You may seek referrals or breeder recommendations via the List, but please provide a full description of your needs, circumstances and expectations to help others make meaningful suggestions." Obviously it would be nice to have some way to bring buyers and breeders together. What I might suggest is that you tell me privately what you have, and where you are. Many people contact me for help in finding a breeder, and I leave it to them to determine if the breeder is the right one for them. Any further use of the List by ANYONE to attempt to sell puppies will get them deleted from the List out of hand. If any of you need to reread the agreement that you accepted when you joined the List, please go to: http://www.berner.org/pages/bernerL_FAQ.htm#section2 and read the rules. Pat Long (& Luther) List co-owner Berwyn PA
News about PennHIP
PennHIP is once again being licensed back to the University of Pennsylvania. It has been managed by Synbiotics for many years, but as of 11/15/2002 management has been transferred back to U of P. It will be a not-for-profit organization, and the director is Dr. Gail Smith. Pat Long (& Luther) Berwyn PA
Re: Credit for Brags
> Okay performance folks -- I have just sent $100 to the raffle so that I can > have brag credits and win some great prizes, especially the items that Pat > wants ;) If your plans for the new year include some titles, why not pay now > and brag later??? > > Mary-Ann Bowman > Utah -- I like this idea. Since my wild and crazy little girl has matured into a silly goofball I just know she'll get a title or two this year. Plus it's hard to not want Berner stuff. Joye, I'll put a check in the mail tomorrow. Please make one of my tickets a winner :o) Kathy Schmitz, Woodstock, Georgia Gunner & Brighteye Meine Liebe "Greta" CGC "Mattie" Matterhorn Princess CD, NA, CGC (in loving memory, always the light of my life)
Re: BERNER-L digest 4211
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Re: Berner Calendar 2003
At 06:17 PM 06/01/2003 -0600, you wrote: Anyone having information where I can obtain one please correspond with me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for your help. Elisabeth Everyone MUST have one of these calendars. All the photos are taken by the talented Bernd Guenter and yet again, they are WONDERFUL!. You can see the covers here: http://members.rogers.com/bernerboris/misc_dog.html#MS Wendy (Calendars are also available through Amazon - buy through the link on Boris's site and the BMDCA Health fund gets the commission!) Boris Beard Ottawa, Canada http://members.rogers.com/bernerboris/bernerbooks.html
Specialty Planning Booklet!
I just received my Specialty Planning Booklet! It could not have come at a better time - I just finished bathing and blow drying six 6-week old Berner puppies and boy am I beat! It was their first bath. My 18 year old daughter Katie and I spent about 25 minutes per puppy. She held and I washed, she held and I dried, and somehow I think I got the better end of the deal! Anyhow, we have six squeaky clean, wonderfully smelling puppies that are all sleeping soundly and now I'm going to go put my feet up, read the planning booklet and dream about sunshine and Long Beach, California! Come on April! :- Ruth Johnson Tundra Bernese Timber 16 weeks! Terra 4 years & six 6-week old puppies! (all are spoken for) and Todd - our 16 year old junior handler's 1- year old BIS American Eskimo Dog! in Anchorage, Alaska
Re: exercise and teenagers QUESTION
My first Berner was a male who his first year of life was very very sick. At 4 mos he suffered from pancreatitis, parvo, had exploratory surgery, followed by kennel cough and pneumonia and generalized demodetic mange. By the time he was a year old he was just starting to shine as far as his health went and I chose not to neuter him as he had been through so much. He had a very very very low libido so was no problem with the girls. As to male aggression, I have had up to 3 intact Berner males in my home and my boys have never shown signs of aggression. I took care with them if a girl was in season but other than that they were good with each other. I have also had other Berner boys here to visit and taken mine out and while they may not seek out the company of other males I have not seen the boys misbehave. Maybe it's been luck, I'm always watchful. Now the girls on the other hand is a whole other story. Susan Ablon Gweebarra BMD Balch Springs, Tx http://www.pageweb.com/gwebara On Mon, 06 Jan 2003 19:27:44 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > this is a really interesting topic. i have a question--does anyone > out there have an "intact" male or female for reasons OTHER than to > show or breed because i would be really interested in knowing other > reasons there could be for not doing it since so many other (health > or otherwise) problems seem to arise from having the intact > dogs...just a question...this coming from the owner of three dogs, > one bernese and two pound dogs, one great shepherd girl and my > adorable macho neutered boy dog who DESPISES unneutered boys and can > smell them a mile away--i always know before we even get to the dog > when we go out hiking or the park or whatever and he gets that weird > high step with his tail up and a low growl...i've finally gotten to > the point where i can handle this behavior but thank goodness most > people out there tend to spay/neuter their dogs before they bring > them out to public areas like this because i've also noticed my > annoying boy is not the only dog who feels the need to show off when > intact males are around. i've witnessed many many fights...this is > another reason why i will never get another boy dog! i love him to > death and he is my baby but i think i prefer girls from now on. > anyway, thanks for listening... > danielle & hudson >
Re: exercise and teenagers QUESTION
this is a really interesting topic. i have a question--does anyone out there have an "intact" male or female for reasons OTHER than to show or breed because i would be really interested in knowing other reasons there could be for not doing it since so many other (health or otherwise) problems seem to arise from having the intact dogs...just a question...this coming from the owner of three dogs, one bernese and two pound dogs, one great shepherd girl and my adorable macho neutered boy dog who DESPISES unneutered boys and can smell them a mile away--i always know before we even get to the dog when we go out hiking or the park or whatever and he gets that weird high step with his tail up and a low growl...i've finally gotten to the point where i can handle this behavior but thank goodness most people out there tend to spay/neuter their dogs before they bring them out to public areas like this because i've also noticed my annoying boy is not the only dog who feels the need to show off when intact males are around. i've witnessed many many fights...this is another reason why i will never get another boy dog! i love him to death and he is my baby but i think i prefer girls from now on. anyway, thanks for listening... danielle & hudson
getting a sick dog to eat
There are a few high calorie products on the market that are designed for sick/weak dogs. I think they have a large amount of sucrose and protein concentrate and are easily digested. I gave one (called 'STAT') to my old girl, Reddy, when she was recovering from her chemotherapy treatments and couldn't eat anything. Its a liquid, so I could get it down with a syringe. I ordered it from a catalog. I'll try to look up which one, if anyone needs it. Marjie
Berner Calendar 2003
I've been reading the Berner-L very few times these past months, so don't know if any of the clubs or fund raisers were offering 2003 BMD calendars for sale. I still don't have one and would like to obtain one. Even the stands in the malls selling calendars did not have a single BMD calendar. What is this world coming to, don't they know the most lovable breed of the dog world, the BMD? Anyone having information where I can obtain one please correspond with me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for your help. Elisabeth
Re: Portrait Photos
> Take advantage of > it, we won't be doing this forever! One of these days we may just up and > retire - and actually see a Specialty! OH! I hope you and Joye do not retire until after the 2005 Specialty...which will probably be my first. Maybe you could kind of semi-retire...just shoot Wednesday and Friday??? > we have raised a grand total of $10,150 for Berner funds doing those > portrait photos! Awesome! And what a sacrifice...being at the Specialties but never ringside! Cindy Reid Corning, NY
Re: newcomer with questions
Dear Carol, Thank you for your response. Quite honestly I was a bit hesitant to even mention aggressive behavior for I know it is highly subjective. My husband and I adopted a dog, pre-marriage and children. He is a Black Lab/Great Dane mix. He was the only member of our household, besides the two of us, for three years. He was wonderful when we brought my daughter home from the hospital and continued to be a wonderful, loyal, adoring, protective pet until my daughter was about 18 months. She had already been walking for 6 months when the first incidence of "aggression" occurred. My daughter was playing as she always did with him when he snapped at her making contact with her face and nearly missing her eye. My husband and I were sitting each within a foot of the dog and my daughter as we always did when they interacted. I had friends tell me,"That dog would be out of my house already. That's it!" We kept the dog for a little while longer but separated the dog from my daughter which caused him to shy away from her with hair on end every time she came near her. We were so confused and distraught over what to do. He had been loyal and loving for three years+ but the safety of my children comes first above all else and he was placed in another household with out children. The other instance of aggression was with a dog belonging to my parents. I grew up with an Airedale Terrier, among other large dogs, and my parents adopted a rescue Airedale about two years ago. I realize that Rescues are very special cases each one independent of itself. The Airedale had obvious experienced some terrible hardship and abuse in his life that did not present itself until my sister, aged 25, or my daughter, aged 12 months, walked into the house. He would corner my sister in small rooms. He would growl and snarl at my daughter. Unfortunately all one had to do was to look into this poor dog's eyes to see his anger. I warned my mother of the feeling he gave me the very first time I met him. He was taken back into Airedale Rescue hands. My parents have since had a wonderful experience with another Airedale Rescue. My reasons for joining this mailing list other than to learn as much as I can about Berners and their owners, are to prevent myself from making mistakes I may or may not have made in the past and to find a suitable family pet in which to exchange a loving, loyal, adoring, protective relationship with. Thanks you, Aishling - Original Message - From: "Carol Kracht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Aishling Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 2:00 PM Subject: Re: newcomer with questions > We could probably help you out a bit better as a group if you could share > your aggressive dog problems of the past- this is a highly subjective issue > especially where small children are concerned so it helps to have some > details- Thanks! Carol in CA > - Original Message - > From: "Aishling Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 9:50 AM > Subject: newcomer with questions > > > Hello, > I am a newcomer to berner-l in an effort to learn more about a breed that I > hope one day to introduce as part of my family. > > We have two small children and are just about to move from Southern CA to my > home state of RI. It is our plan to bring a dog, as a family pet, into our > home in the next 18 months or so. We have had problems with aggressive dogs > in our home in the past. We need to make sure that our family is ready and > the breed of dog is compatible with children and that we are suitable owners > for the specific breed of dog. > > I would love to hear from Berner owners with young children (under the age > of 3). > I would also like to know what Berner owners who live in climates that > experience hot summer heat do to make their dogs comfortable. > > Thank you and I look forward to all that I can learn about your experiences. > > Aishling P. > Carlsbad, CA >
CVBMDC Supported Entry - February 1, 2003
A reminder and an invitation. The Chattahoochee Valley BMDC is having its Supported Entry on Saturday, February 1 at the All Breed Conyers Kennel Club of GA dog show - Atlanta Exposition Center, 3850 Jonesboro Road, Atlanta, GA. Entry deadline January 15, 2003, see www.Onofrio.com Let's have a great turnout of both participants and spectators! If you live in the Atlanta area and have been looking into a BMD, here is your chance to see gaggles (?) of berners in person. CVBMDC club meeting will follow BOB Conformation event. Permission to cross-post. Mary Shaver Fayetteville, GA
RE: Portrait Photos
>From: Jeff & Mary Chapdelaine - SnoBear berners >And maybe I can brave the line to get some of your great dog photos! : ) I'm going to brag a little here (all right, maybe a lot) - I'm lucky enough to have one of the finest assistants, the Lovely Ms Joye Neff. Without her help, the photos wouldn't be nearly as nice! Over the years we have raised a grand total of $10,150 for Berner funds doing those portrait photos! I don't want to think about how many rolls of film that is. But for those of you who have watched us do it, you've seen Joye get down on her knees, back up on her feet, down, up, down up - and she has a bit of arthritis. Then there was the time in Spokane that she stepped off a curb and twisted her ankle. It still didn't stop her from getting down on her knees, back up on her feet, down, up... We're planning to be there in Long Beach doing photos. We don't take reservations, just show up. We're hoping to do photos from Wednesday through Saturday, and that's all, as usual. So look for us, drop by just to say Hi even if you don't have your dog with you! And we have photographed dogs other than Berners, so don't be shy! Take advantage of it, we won't be doing this forever! One of these days we may just up and retire - and actually see a Specialty! Pat Long (& Luther) LongShots Berwyn PA
Re: exercise and teenagers
> My Han is now 9 months old and since I want to show him, intact. I feel > that he needs the chance to run more than he can in our small yard and soon > he won't be able to go to the dog parks. Beverly, keeping an intact male can always be difficult, as is keeping intact female. You just never know what other intact dog is out there to fight with or inappropriately mate. You can train your dog to the very best but it is never easy! I know, I had my Sam full male in London 'til a year old. I used to take him off leash walks along the Regents Park Canal towpath which very few people used early morning but we still had a couple of skirmishes and met the odd owner walking his in-season bitch thinking no-one else would be around. And believe me, Sam was well trained! He would come when called but at times the bitch fancying my Boy or dog wanting to pick a fight would come too! Not easy! My choice at that time was to move here to Longlease on the Welsh Borders, UK, where I have my own woods where my dogs can run and exercise to their heart's content. However, I still believe in building up muscle with road work on the leash, keeps me very fit too! Today we did nine miles brisk walk, this with my eight year old spayed bitch, Sunny; four year old neutered, Barney; and my present three year old full male, Simmy! Still get the occasional problem as in the countryside you go past a farm and dogs are on the loose and come chasing you! Most of them I know and tell them to stay!!! No big problems as yet, touch wood and this eight years later. For you and Han, just nine months and no doubt cocking his leg now and sense of territory, I would take him several very brisk walks on the leash during the day! You mention dog park, do you know the other dogs and owners there, is it enclosed space? For sure take him there on very long leash and continue heavy duty training! However, if you are seriously considering showing him and I know a lot more people will reply on this too, keeping an intact male can be hard work. They need to be fully socialised but at the same time you don't want dog fights! The scruffiest unneutered mongrel off-leash in the dog park could ruin your boy's chances. You may finish up doing a lot of leg work to keep your boy fit! I look forward to more on this theme. All love, Jean, Sunny, Sim, Barney and the Gang X http://www.angelfire.com/anime3/longlease/index.htm
Re: Berners and Young Children
Thank you for your insight. I have really enjoyed the outpouring of emails I have received today. Your life from a few years ago sounds much like mine today and I appreciate your candidness and ideas. I have yet more questions for you. Do you find, being that you were home with the kids and puppies, that your bonds with Mercedes and Bentley are stronger than your husbands? Do the dogs favor you? Thank you Aishling - Original Message - From: "Alan & Susan Kowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Berner-l" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 11:59 AM Subject: Re: Berners and Young Children > Greetings Aishling, > > When we got Mercedes as a puppy I had a 4 year old and a six month old. I > had spent almost two years getting to know my breeders and their dogs and > letting them get to know me. Quite frankly they did not want to place a pup > with young children and by the time my toddler turned 4 I don't think they > had fully grasped that there was now a baby! They offered every time I > talked to them to buy Mercedes back if there were *any* problems at all. > Now these breeders are my trusted friends and they even called me when they > wanted a family home for Bentley. Bentley came here when the kids were 7 > and 4. > > That positive stuff being said, it's a lot of work to do it right and the > person who is home with the kids has to be the one who really wants the dog. > Bernese Mtn. Dogs can be wonderful with kids - - mine are, but it doesn't > just happen. They are big and clumsy as puppies. Some are gentle from the > start and some are really mouthy with their razor sharp teeth. We ended up > with a mouthy, jumpy one the first time around and it was work, but now she > is the family's cherished sweetheart. When it will be her turn to join all > of these other Berners at the Rainbow Bridge I don't think I'll be able to > survive *my son's* grief let alone my own. Love and training are required > for the dog and kid training is important too. My 7 year old had to learn > to stand up and walk when Mercedes was a 6 month old wild puppy. Just her > tail swishing would knock him down. Fortunately it never bothered him and > he was even an early walker. I had gates everywhere in the house so that > kids and puppy were never, ever together without my supervision. That way > the bites which go with puppyhood were reduced and kids never mishandled the > puppy either. Kid toys make attractive and often dangerous puppy chew toys > so had we had a playpen that all the toys would get tossed into whenever the > puppy was on the same side of the gate as the kids. My kids learned early > and well to pick up their toys! The kids had to learn to stop and turn > their backs to a puppy (or other dogs too) who jump, bite, chase, etc. as it > is natural that when kids run the dogs will want to join in. Kid activity > stimulates dogs. > > I did all of this this when we were new to town so I had no outside the home > life yet anyway and raising kids and training dogs was just what I did all > day. I wanted it that way. For another person it would have spelled too > much isolation and doom. Now it has paid off. The dogs are a natural part > of the family and none of us would have it any other way. > > The other important point that comes to my mind is exercise. Someone once > wrote that Berners don't move on their own- - you have to move them, even if > they have a fenced yard. It can be difficult to get in adequate leash walks > with a dog when young children are in the picture as they don't move at the > dog's pace. I can finally do all of the walking I want now that both kids > are in school all day, but until now I have had to dive out the door anytime > my husband was home so I could walk dogs, getting up early, staying up late, > etc. I also brought them to the parks, beaches, hikes, etc. with the kids > and family outings always included dogs. > > If this lifestyle sounds good to you then you are hopelessly hooked and no > doubt will find yourself a good family friend. Best of luck with whatever > you decide. > > Susan Kowitz, Mercedes, and Bentley > Sequim, WA > >
Re: BERNER-L digest 4210
I'm unable to read e-mails on the Berner-L. I used to receive it in a different form. Can you help me correct this so I can continue to follow on the "L." Thanks, Jason Urrutia - Original Message - From: "Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 10:59 AM Subject: BERNER-L digest 4210 > > BERNER-L Digest 4210 > > Topics covered in this issue include: > > 1) Hemangio sarcoma > by romantimea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 2) Re: puppy paws and snow HELP > by Tom Jaskiewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 3) training pups in winter > by Tambi Rondinone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 4) Happy Birthday to Amanda > by "Scott & Betsy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 5) Re: Hemorrhagic colonitis update > by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 6) Re: BERNER-L digest 4209 > by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 7) to tempt sick dog to drink/eat (was colonitis) > by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 8) BARC LOC Challenge Raffle NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!! > by "Dr. William B. Neff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 9) re: dog with eye socket problem > by "Lisa D Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 10) RE: Car sick Cooper > by Rose Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 11) Berners and Cold > by "Eileen Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 12) Re: Glucosamine/chondroitin > by Tracey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 13) > by hvwhitney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 14) Getting Sick Dogs to Drink > by "Maria Crifasi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 15) Credit for Brags and Raffle > by "Mary-Ann Bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 16) exercise and teenagers > by "Beverly Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 17) re: teenagers and exercise--finding a safe place > by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 18) Re: BERNER-L digest 4201 > by "Karen Brubeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 19) Re: Credit for Brags and Raffle > by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 20) Credit for Brags > by "Mary-Ann Bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 21) > by "Aishling Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 22) newcomer with questions > by "Aishling Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 23) RE: puppy paws and snow HELP > by Rose Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 24) RE: red eye socket(s) > by Rose Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 25) Re: newcomer with questions > by "Jeff & Mary Chapdelaine - SnoBear berners" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 26) new puppy and young children > by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 27) Re: newcomer with questions > by Marjie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 28) RE: afraid to read anymore > by Rose Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 29) Re: afraid to read anymore > by "jean cheesman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 30) introduction, condolences, and referral wanted > by "eve berman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >
Re: View from the puppy seat (was Re: Car sick Cooper)
Hi Sherri, Sounds like our car rides. : ) Sometimes if we are going to be at an dog show many hours away from us, but close to a puppy's new family's home and the date coincides with when our puppies are going home we'll take a puppy to his/her new home personally. We have taken puppies to Los Angeles, Portland, OR. etc. Using the method you & I described they have all been very happy travelers. Bernerly, Mary Jeff & Mary Chapdelaine SnoBear Berners N. California, USA http://snobear.freeyellow.com "When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself." Wayne Dyer - Psychotherapist, Author and Speaker
RE: Glucosamine/chondroitin - Prices
I just picked up 3 bottles of the COSAMIN DS (human counterpart of vet. CONSEQUIN DS manufactured by the same firm)at COSTCO for a friend. The price is better than I listed previously -- after the $10 rebate it amounts to $55.29 for a 230-capsule bottle of COSAMIN DS (capsules contain 500 MG Glucosamine and 400 MG Condroitin). Please note, this is NOT COSTCO's Generic. When making price comparisons, be sure to note number of capsules AND the MGs per capsule. Nancy Melone
to tempt sick dog to drink/eat (was colonitis)
Try chicken noodle soup or broth. It's what we use at the kennel I work for finicky dogs, or hot dog slices 0r the previously mentioned baby food (just the meat ones, chicken or turkey) seem to work best. Lynne and the guys Keyport, Washington
Re: Volunteers at Club Events
Hi Pat, I look forward to it! And maybe I can brave the line to get some of your great dog photos! : ) Have seen some you did of our "kids" and they were very nice. I especially liked the ones I received of Aces & Brandi together. Thank you. Many times with all our responsibilities to our human children and now grandchildren, and Jeff's working out of town, plus our non- dog life activities (we do have those too!) we cannot go to all the events we'd like to but we're going to try our best to be there. Bernerly, Mary Jeff & Mary Chapdelaine SnoBear Berners N. California, USA http://snobear.freeyellow.com "When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself." Wayne Dyer - Psychotherapist, Author and Speaker
get dog to drink/eat
Hi, I sometimes use to but a little butter (easily melted) and/or flings from Dextrosol(dextrose,grape-sugar) to give a little energy. It makes both water and food taste. It is worth a try! Hope it works, Margareta Strand Stockholm
View from the puppy seat (was Re: Car sick Cooper)
Mary, Your guidance to buyers bringing home your puppies reminded me of a recent road trip. I picked up a puppy 6 hours away from my home and was travelling alone. Before we left the breeder's home, I did a little decorating of my Outback... I had brought two small-mid sized crates with me, both were the hard plastic, Pet-Taxi type of things that come in two halves. I left one crate intact in the 'way-back' of the car...just in case. On the passenger side of the front, I put the bottom half of a crate in the footwell, well lined with a layer of towels and a layer of newspaper. I draped a large bathroom rug from the head rest down the seat back, over the seat, and tucked in under the 'bed' in the footwell. When I carried the pup to the car, I knew it was only the third time he'd been on 'that' side of the gate. The third time he'd been in a car (to the vets for dewclaw removal at 2 days and for shots at 6 weeks being the prior car rides.). And most importantly, the first time he'd been away from his littermates. Thinking about how new all this was for him made my approach very different than it was when I brought my first puppy home 10-1/2 years ago. Then, my response to a cry or shiver would have been to sooth the puppy with 'it's ok', kind of chatter. Now I realize that that tone of voice goes along with the pup's fear...it tells him, 'you're right, there is something to be afraid of here'. Not the message I want to project... Neither do I want to say "hey bud, this is the way it is...cry it out and get it over with"again, thinking about things from the puppy's perspective removes this option...at least for me. So, when I got into the car this time...I found myself very 'connected' with the puppy...thinking about this 'event' from his perspective. For a minute, he sat in my lap and shook. I realized he was afraid at this sudden 'departure' from everything he knew and that the sound and feel of the car would only heighten his fear...so took my time and held off starting the car. Instead, we just sat quietly in the driveway, me in the diver seat, pup in my lap...keeping one hand firmly on him, conveying a sense of security. This lasted for all of a minute...at most. When I felt him relax, I started the car and off we went. Giving him those first few minutes to get comfortable with this new stuff, rather than just piling it on, had built his trust in me...that if I was ok with things, then he didn't have anything to fear. I drove for the first few miles with him laying quietly in my lap with one hand firmly across his body and talking to him casually about heading off to meet his new family, what a handsome boy he was, etc. After the first 10 or 15 minutes on the road, he was totally comfortable so I put him on the passenger seat with a gigantic fleece 'bone' positioned to keep him from squigging between the seat and the door. I showed him the squeeky toy the breeder sent home with us and I propped up a gumabone I'd brought along, wedged between the crate bottom in the footwell and the seat...looking for all the world like a puppy lollipop! When he wanted to knap, he instinctively crawled down into the 'bed/den' in the footwell. Whenever he started waking up, I knew he'd have to pee so I'd get off at the next rest area or exit and take him out. Once back in the car, he'd spend his time sitting up on the passenger seat looking out the windows (VERY cute!), he'd lay down with his toy, and he'd move his head across the console to me when he wanted attention, (and try to chew on the car phone cord). Then he'd climb back down into the footwell bed for a nap. And so it went all the way home... the puppy was stressed for only a minute or two, was given time and reason to understand that this was different but not something to be afraid of, there was no clean up for me :-D, and I had a waggy tailed pup when we arrived at our destination 7 hours after leaving. -Sherri Venditti
Cold and Frosty Longlease!
Hi Folks, Yippee! Well, we haven't got snow but here Welsh Borders UK we have had two days of very heavy ground frost. Bitterly cold here but the good news is that all that horrible mud is frozen solid!! Cleaned the house yesterday and polished the floors and we are still clean! Downside is that all the doggy floor sheets and towels that I did huge washing machine number on are clean and hanging in the barn to dry but frozen solid!! Tee, Hee! Went in to get the feed buckets for the goats, sheep and ponies this morning, banged my head and the towel cracked!!! So wonderful to see my three Bernese when it's like this, they love it really cold! Open the door and they are tearing off down to the ponies' gate to say good morning, then back to the sheep gate. Then backwards and forwards as I am doing the Winter feeds, so excited!! And as for when the leads come out!! Today was so very beautiful! Almost a Hoar Frost, one more night of big freeze which is forecast and we should have that and I'll get the camera out! We did biggy walk today again, down to the village and over the bridge and on to Letton. The sun was shining as it was on our Christmas and New Year's Day walks there but today the ground was solid (those days we came back filthy!). Around nine miles round trip at a cracking pace! I came back glowing with three very bouncy Bernese!! Had huge meal and sat in front of a roaring log fire admiring the still shiny floors! (Well, not so sure if that was what the dogs were doing but they sure appreciated the fire and had helped get the logs in - see Gathering Winter Fuel on the Longlease Site) Makes up for having taken down all the Christmas Deccies! Now all we want is lots more hard frost until Spring and the grass starts growing!! We live in hope!!! Sadly, have also just taken the fairy lights and Chrissy things off the Longlease Site but the New Year updates are there with my outside lights twinkling away. All love, Jean, Sunny, Simmy, Barney and the Frosty Gang http://www.angelfire.com/anime3/longlease/index.htm
Re: Training pups in Winter
Hi Joseph, I live UK by the Welsh Borders and when I collected wee Sunny Girl eight years ago we had a cold winter and snow. We collected her beginning of December just eight weeks old. She loved the funny white stuff, as did Big Bro Sam, and it was cold out there. Sunny saved us humans the middle of the night venturing outside by very quickly discovering the cat flap! Just naturally followed the cats in and out as she was about the same size as them anyway when she first arrived. She house trained herself. As she grew, I replaced the outside flap with slightly larger (Well, medium sized) dog flap and she still goes in and out of there. Next puppy, Sim, also trained himself and huge as he is now, yes, he still gets in and out too. I took some pics of this remarkable event a couple of years ago: http://www.angelfire.com/anime3/longlease/sunnysim14.htm If you have secure area outside the house, installing a flap is a great idea! All Love, Jean, Sunny, Sim, Barney and the Gang X http://www.angelfire.com/anime3/longlease/index.htm
for Tracy Moya
Tracy...contact Janet Bann of the BMDC of Watchung (908) 704-1743 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Janet is the Secretary of the Watchung Club in NJ and she will help you with any questions you may have. Harriet Gehorsam in VA with Tucker and Pebbles
Re: Volunteers at Club Events
Mary, Excellent, I can't wait to finally meet you! I'll be in Long Beach helping out wherever I can as well, and also doing fund-raising portrait photo sessions with my other half - Joye Neff. We are co-chairs for the raffle table as well, so we'll be looking for lots of help there too! For any of you who are planning to be at any club event, volunteers are always in short supply. Any help you can provide is always gratefully accepted! Dig in, and have fun!! Pat Long (& Luther) Berwyn PA _ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: Credit for Brags
From: "Mary-Ann Bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> especially the items that Pat wants ;) Braggarts, Don't listen to Mary-Ann, I want to be able to brag about what I win! More tickets, that's the way... grumble mumble Pat Long (& Luther) Berwyn PA _ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup
Re: Berners and Young Children
Greetings Aishling, When we got Mercedes as a puppy I had a 4 year old and a six month old. I had spent almost two years getting to know my breeders and their dogs and letting them get to know me. Quite frankly they did not want to place a pup with young children and by the time my toddler turned 4 I don't think they had fully grasped that there was now a baby! They offered every time I talked to them to buy Mercedes back if there were *any* problems at all. Now these breeders are my trusted friends and they even called me when they wanted a family home for Bentley. Bentley came here when the kids were 7 and 4. That positive stuff being said, it's a lot of work to do it right and the person who is home with the kids has to be the one who really wants the dog. Bernese Mtn. Dogs can be wonderful with kids - - mine are, but it doesn't just happen. They are big and clumsy as puppies. Some are gentle from the start and some are really mouthy with their razor sharp teeth. We ended up with a mouthy, jumpy one the first time around and it was work, but now she is the family's cherished sweetheart. When it will be her turn to join all of these other Berners at the Rainbow Bridge I don't think I'll be able to survive *my son's* grief let alone my own. Love and training are required for the dog and kid training is important too. My 7 year old had to learn to stand up and walk when Mercedes was a 6 month old wild puppy. Just her tail swishing would knock him down. Fortunately it never bothered him and he was even an early walker. I had gates everywhere in the house so that kids and puppy were never, ever together without my supervision. That way the bites which go with puppyhood were reduced and kids never mishandled the puppy either. Kid toys make attractive and often dangerous puppy chew toys so had we had a playpen that all the toys would get tossed into whenever the puppy was on the same side of the gate as the kids. My kids learned early and well to pick up their toys! The kids had to learn to stop and turn their backs to a puppy (or other dogs too) who jump, bite, chase, etc. as it is natural that when kids run the dogs will want to join in. Kid activity stimulates dogs. I did all of this this when we were new to town so I had no outside the home life yet anyway and raising kids and training dogs was just what I did all day. I wanted it that way. For another person it would have spelled too much isolation and doom. Now it has paid off. The dogs are a natural part of the family and none of us would have it any other way. The other important point that comes to my mind is exercise. Someone once wrote that Berners don't move on their own- - you have to move them, even if they have a fenced yard. It can be difficult to get in adequate leash walks with a dog when young children are in the picture as they don't move at the dog's pace. I can finally do all of the walking I want now that both kids are in school all day, but until now I have had to dive out the door anytime my husband was home so I could walk dogs, getting up early, staying up late, etc. I also brought them to the parks, beaches, hikes, etc. with the kids and family outings always included dogs. If this lifestyle sounds good to you then you are hopelessly hooked and no doubt will find yourself a good family friend. Best of luck with whatever you decide. Susan Kowitz, Mercedes, and Bentley Sequim, WA
Re: BERNER-L digest 4210
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Aishling, Welcome! I live in New Jersey with our first Berner, a girl 18 months old...and my husband and 3 year-old daughter. Jewel, the dog, is very tolerant of my daughter, and I trust her completely. But really, the size is too big that my daughter really can't participate much in her care. (Although Jewel will obey a "down" or "Wait" command from my daughter). Jewel's wagging tail just happenes to be about face-level for my daughter. My daughter much prefers the company of our Burmese cat who's also very tolerant (and small enough for her to carry and dress up in doll clothes). I can't take both of them to the dog park together, (little kids not allowed) and I have to go to training obedience classes while my husband watches our daughter, so I've needed to make some time for the dog and I alone. On the good side, I never have to worry about spills and dropped food on the floor. All-in-all, I think they are great with kids, generally, but its alot of dog for a kid to handle. They are just too big to romp with a little kid outside. And my biggest fear is that she will inadvertantly knock my daughter down the stairs some day. We've trained her to wait at the top until my daughter's gone down, but it still scares me. In the heat...Jewel prefers the comforts of the air conditioning and doesn't tolerate much time outside. We even have curtailed 8:00 PM training classes in the hottest summer months. And no long walks unless its really early am. Hope this helps! Rita --- Aishling Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > I am a newcomer to berner-l in an effort to learn more about a > breed that I hope one day to introduce as part of my family. > > We have two small children and are just about to move from Southern > CA to my home state of RI. It is our plan to bring a dog, as a > family pet, into our home in the next 18 months or so. We have had > problems with aggressive dogs in our home in the past. We need to > make sure that our family is ready and the breed of dog is > compatible with children and that we are suitable owners for the > specific breed of dog. > > I would love to hear from Berner owners with young children (under > the age of 3). > I would also like to know what Berner owners who live in climates > that experience hot summer heat do to make their dogs comfortable. > > Thank you and I look forward to all that I can learn about your > experiences. > > Aishling P. > Carlsbad, CA = Support anti-Spam legislation. Join the fight http://www.cauce.org/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Re: newcomer with questions
Actually Marjie I contacted the specialty commitee last year and we're glad to help. So, we will be there and Jeff will be glad to help with grounds, parking, whatever and I'm available in whatever area I may be of help in. I posted to help someone who needed direction. That is the point of the list. Can you say that is the point of your post? Please contact me privately Marjie if you have a need to discuss this further. And cc: Pat Long Bernerly, Mary Jeff & Mary Chapdelaine SnoBear Berners N. California, USA http://snobear.freeyellow.com "When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself." Wayne Dyer - Psychotherapist, Author and Speaker
CA - Female Berner born 4/23/02
Does anyone on the Berner-l living in California have a female Berner born on April 23, 2002. this is the only info I have and she would be my Pups sister. Contact me privately if so :-) Krisitn O'Neill South Boston, MA Yukon 8 Months!
Re: afraid to read anymore
In a message dated 1/5/2003 7:35:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I currently have only one berner, she is my first berner > and she just recently turned two. Hi Arlene, It sounds like you're moving right along through the 'phases' that come along with adding a Berner to your family. After house training and manners training and surviving the adolescent hyjinx...the fear period takes hold, for the owner that is! I don't think I slept much for the year between my first berner's second and third birthday. Like you, that was when I truly knew...internally...all the terrible things that 'could' happen to take her away from us, and it scared the heck out of me. But somewhere along the line, I realized that I was wasting precious time by letting my fear of what *might* happen take away from the time I had... right in my grasp. After mulling that over for a few weeks, I kicked myself in the butt and said 'that's enough of that'. It registered then that I'd rather enjoy whatever time I have with my Berner than two or three times as many years with another breed. It sank in that making the most of the time you have with your Berner is what matters, not the day count. The load lifted, I started sleeping again...at least until the 2nd berner puppy arrived and demanded middle of the night potty runs . BTW~ I'm still enjoying every day with that same berner. She still makes me smile, she still makes me pull out my hair, she still outsmarts me, and she's still teaching me many things. She'll be 11 next month. -Sherri Venditti
Re: Glucosamine/Chondroitin
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FW: new to the Berner Breed
I am forwarding this on, as I know there are clubs in the Northeast that she can join. Thanks! Valerie Whitman Inland Northwest BMDC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 9:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: new to the Berner Breed Hi we have searched this breed for about a year while our Golden was ill. She passed in early Nov. 11 years. We are now proud owners of a great Berner pup. Was in contact with the breeder for 8 monthes knowing we wanted to get a puppy. She was born the same day as our Golden was Halloween so her name is Pumpkin (pie). Was reading your site and wondering if I can join or if you know of a club in my area northern New Jersey. thanks for your time. Tracy Moyna
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introduction, condolences, and referral wanted
Hi all- We are new to the list and just wanted to introduce ourselves. I am Eve Berman, and my husband is Joe, daughter (2.5 years) Sedona. We live in Park City, Utah. First off, while we do not know you well yet & are new to the list, I want to extend my deepest sympathy to Johanna at the loss of Gretel & Joye at the loss of Winston Poohbear. We saw your posts & wanted to express our sadness & heartfelt sympathy at the loss of your beloved dogs. We too lost both of our dear doggies this year, and thus we feel your pain. May the good memories of the time you spent with them somehow sustain you in this time of grief & may the passage of time ease your pain as much as is possible. I hope that all of our dear departed family members are playing together at the bridge. Secondly, we joined the list because we are looking for a berner to add to our family. Although this will be our first Berner, we are not new to giant breeds or working dogs, having previously owned Great Danes & Samoyeds. If any one out there knows of or has any leads on reputable breeders or current/forthcoming pups anywhere in the US, we would be so appreciative if you would pass on that information. Life here without a big dog to love has been pretty empty for all of us and we are anxious to rectify that situation. Our direct email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Looking forward to getting to know you all better and learning about your dear doggies, Regards, Eve Berman
Re: afraid to read anymore
Hi Arlene, >I'm not naive and I acknowledge the fact that a lot of >berners live well into their early teens, but I honestly have to admit - I am >now freaking out and I am now scared out of my skin. Oh, please give Sloane extra belly rubs from us all and biggest extra hugs for yourself. Then relax and enjoy! It tends to be the downside you read in the mails, people mail most when something is wrong. I found this list myself when my Sam was first diagnosed with lymphoma and found such help and support here. That was three years ago and I am proud to belong to such a caring, sharing group of people. Please don't be frightened for Sloane. My first ever Bernese, Tinka, lived to a few weeks short of her fourteenth birthday and never went to the vet apart from routine checks! My present lady, Sunny, who is now eight similarly has never had any problems (apart from a black eye from Puppy Sim and bruised shoulder when she tried to get through the gate same time as my two Berner Boys!!) The Boys, aka the Terrible Twins, are Simmy three and Rescue Barney four. Healthy happy dogs all of them! Treasure every moment for, believe me, even when they live to ripe old age it's still not long enough!! Find us all on my Longlease Site, have recently added in some New Year pics. Oops, haven't taken the cyberspace fairy lights off yet!! Time to get online and do that, well, have been up a ladder taking down the decorations at Longlease itself. All Love, Jean, Sunny, Sim, Barney and the Gang X http://www.angelfire.com/anime3/longlease/index.htm
RE: afraid to read anymore
Dear Arlene, As sad as it is for anyone to lose their dog one cannot live life looking at those we love with fear of losing them. We must embrace the quality of the life we have and share with those we love however long that time may be. Oftentimes the sad and trying experiences are the ones most often posted on this list but try to remember that is human nature. There are just as many happy and healthy times to recount but we are often too busy enjoying them for ourselves:-)) Rose T.
Re: newcomer with questions
Jeff & Mary Chapdelaine - SnoBear berners wrote: > In April the BMDSC will be hosting the National Specialty Dog Show. All the > info. is on their website. Actually, Mary the host of the 2003 Specialty is a consortium, not a club. We haven't seen you at a Specialty for quite some time. Perhaps you'd like to volunteer at this one since its so close, we can always use the help. Marjie
new puppy and young children
In a message dated 1/6/2003 12:51:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I would love to hear from Berner owners with young children (under the age > of 3). Welcome to the list! You will no doubt hear many opinions and the experience of Berner owners. Personally, I would be very cautious w/ a breed as large as Berners and children that young. A 80-100 lb enthusiastic adolescant dog could easily knock over a toddler and injure her. You do not want either a shy or overly wild dog around children, it can spell disaster. Anyone considering a new puppy should get Ian Dunbar, DVM's excellent little books and read them carefully. The advice is practical and very effective. Check out "Before You Get Your Puppy" and "After You Get Your Puppy." They are inexpensive and easy to read, available from www.dogwise.com. He is the founder of the Assoc of Pet Dog Trainers (see their website www.apdt.com) and essentially brought modern positive pet dog training methods to this country. Vilma Briggs (Kistner) Mt. Gilead, OH U-UD Mocha Java Slurp, UDX, HIC, TT Ch. Brighteye Expresso Bean, UD, NDD, TT U-CDX Our Little Buddy, UD, NA, TT Thirdtym's A Charm, CGC and Ted
Re: newcomer with questions
Welcome to the list Aishling! You will get lots of Berner information here! Have you looked into events and meetings of your "local" BMD Club? I think it would be a great idea for you to contact them and go to some events/meetings and meet some BMDs in person. It will give you the opportunity to meet several Berners and allow you to talk to their owners. You will also be able to see how your children interact with the dogs. Here is the info. for the club in your area: Bernese Mountain Dog Club of Southern California Southern California http://www.bmdcsc.org/ Breeder Referral Roni Leighty Littlerock, CA (661) 944-3354 [EMAIL PROTECTED] In April the BMDSC will be hosting the National Specialty Dog Show. All the info. is on their website. This is an excellent opportunity for you. Many, many activities, several hundred BMDs and their owners from all over the USA. Check the club's calander for each days events. Best wishes! : ) Mary Jeff & Mary Chapdelaine SnoBear Berners N. California, USA http://snobear.freeyellow.com "When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself." Wayne Dyer - Psychotherapist, Author and Speaker
RE: red eye socket(s)
Hi Terry, There are a lot of changes going on in the mouth and jaw of a young puppy and it is not unusual for the eyes to be a little droopy and red when teething, also the jaw is making some huge changes and soon will look like Pinochio. So long as the discharge in the eye is not yellow or greenish then there is likely no infection but do keep watch on those eyelids that they do not turn in and irritate the eyeball. Use a separate clean soft tissue for each eye and gently clean wiping towards the nose for the inner corners. Any tearing from the outside corner can be an early indication of entropia (eyelid turning in) and then you will need further consultation. Rose Tierney.
RE: puppy paws and snow HELP
Hi, Housetraining in the winter is easy, they get used to going on the white stuff, hopefully you don't have white carpets:-)) Just clear a patch away so its not too deep where puppy will toilet and don't leave puppy out in the cold. Toilet and back indoors while still a baby puppy. Berners love the snow and in a short while puppy can play in it for longer periods. Try to feed whatever your breeder has started the puppy on and follow their advice with regard to diet. Many breeders now Barf feed but some still prefer to use specifically designed Large Breed Puppy kibbles. If your breeder is not a BARF feeder you should discuss with them terms of your contract if you choose to feed a different diet. If they are not in a position to guide you then seek out an experienced Barf breeder to mentor you as it takes a big committment on your part to do properly. Vaccines should be given according to the schedule your breeder advises. Your vet is the best person to discuss the diseases that may be prevalent in your area and those diseases such as parvo and distemper must be initially vaccinated for and then you can titer test following the annual booster. Have lots of fun with your new puppy and this list is always a great resource for information and help. Rose Tierney. ps don't forget to sign your emails:-)
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Credit for Brags
Okay performance folks -- I have just sent $100 to the raffle so that I can have brag credits and win some great prizes, especially the items that Pat wants ;) If your plans for the new year include some titles, why not pay now and brag later??? Mary-Ann Bowman Utah
Re: Credit for Brags and Raffle
Mary-Ann, You can rack up credit for Brags with advance donations if you'd like! For those people who don't know about the Brag Fund, we ask for donations for any brags, anything from $0 to $1,000,000 is cheerfully accepted! It always goes to the Health Fund, or you can send it to whatever fund you'd like - including the local SPCA! If you send it to me, I'll put it in whatever Berner fund you'd like. Don't let cash shortages stop the brags - brags are always fun to see!! But if there is a raffle, I always advise people to donate there! And if you want to build up Brag credit, you go girl!! And good luck! Just don't put too many tickets on the items that I plan to win... Pat Long (& Luther) Brag Fund Queen Berwyn PA Check any e-mail over the Web for free at MailBreeze (http://www.mailbreeze.com)
Re: BERNER-L digest 4201
Please remove me from the email list. Thanks. Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List wrote: > BERNER-L Digest 4201 > > Topics covered in this issue include: > > 1) Re: raw meat bones question > by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 2) 'Tis better to have loved and lost . . . > by "Marion Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 3) bathing > by Rhona Vantine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 4) Re: bathing > by Judith Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 5) Re: bathing--ahhh...fresh, fluffy, clean puppies! > by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 6) Re: bathing--ahhh...fresh, fluffy, clean puppies! > by "Dr. William B. Neff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 7) Re: bathing--more tips > by "Pat Long" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 8) re: Daisy tips > by "Sheila Dolan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 9) RE: Cabana crates & Travel -- caution > by "Nancy Melone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 10) traveling safely w/ dogs > by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 11) lump question > by "K.Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 12) Re: Seventh Birthday > by Carole Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 13) Re: bathing--ahhh...fresh, fluffy, clean puppies! > by "jane heggen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 14) Rimadyl > by "Martha Hoverson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 15) Re: bathing--more tips > by "Laurie Montoya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 16) RE: raw meat bones question > by Rose Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 17) RE: Daisy's Tips: Bait and Switch > by Rose Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 18) RE: swollen elbow > by Rose Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 19) Re: lump question > by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 20) Re: Rimadyl > by "Liz Steinweg & Crew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 21) Re: virus attachment from BernerFolk > by "Jordan S. Dill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 22) Puppy Books > by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 23) Unannounced Removal from the List??? > by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 24) Re: raw meat bones question > by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 25) Re: Unannounced Removal from the List??? > by Sylvia Katvala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 26) Re: Unannounced Removal from the List??? > by Sylvia Katvala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 27) RE: Unannounced Removal from the List??? > by "Pat Long & Paul Dangel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 28) scented shampoos, etc. > by "Susan Berlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 29) Berner-L Rules and One other important note! > by "Pat Long & Paul Dangel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 30) New years, and new command > by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 31) Help on a partially torn cruciate ligament! > by Cindy Buhner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 32) berners life expectancy: breeding versus spayed > by Terry & Cathy Bering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Subject: Re: raw meat bones question > Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 06:19:04 EST > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > In a message dated 12/30/2002 6:13:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > i was wondering which raw meat bones from the supermarket i could buy and > > safely leave my 8 month old puppy alone with? > > About the only bones I'll leave my dogs alone with are good sized marrow > bones (cow femur), at least 6" long. Mine are fine with the marrow but some > dogs don't tolerate it well so you can scoop some out. > > I love the knuckle bones but have found my guys purposely knaw off the chunks > held on by ligaments. Those are real chokers so I don't give knuckles unless > I come across one that's cut on one side of the joint so doesn't have any > 'component' parts. > > -Sherri Venditti > > > > Subject: 'Tis better to have loved and lost . . . > Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 13:25:28 +0200 > From: "Marion Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Bernese List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > 'Tis better to have loved and lost, than never loved at all > > A time to remember with love all those who have gone to the Rainbow Bridge > during this year, and to celebrate those who are still with us. > > May 2003 be a truly wonderful year for you all, your families and your Big > Fluffies. > > Marion Brown > Teversal Bernese Mountain Dogs > South Africa > Dogs Never Lie About Love (Jeffrey Masson) > > > > Subject: bathing > Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 05:48:30 -0800 (PST) > From: Rhona Vantine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I cant believe how beautiful my Berner boy looks > today! He smells so sweet and is S cudley! > Definitely looks show material to me! It was a spur > of the moment decision, but I gave him his first bath > yesterday. Someone had recently said on the list that > they bath their dogs about every 3 weeks (I think it > was Vilma). I felt dreadful, Louis is 2 yea
re: teenagers and exercise--finding a safe place
n a message dated 1/6/2003 11:06:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I feel > that he needs the chance to run more than he can in our small yard and soon > he won't be able to go to the dog parks. I know with horses most muscle > building is done at a trot but what about dogs? I am hesitant to let him > run unleashed in an unfenced area but I have one place that we have been > able to use that has been, so far, without dogs. You are exactly right! He definitely needs to exercise, as all dogs do, especially large dogs. So many American Berners (and other breeds) are sadly out of shapeflabby and/or fat. Most breed standards call for a dog "in good working condition" but how many dogs actually are? At only 9 months old, you probably dont want to do too much strictly regimented exercise program like running beside a bicycle or on a doggie treadmill. His bones and joints are still young. No "forced exercise." But free running on his own is a wonderful way to develop muscle and stamina, as well as burn off some of his adolescant energy. And of course have a great time. I would encourage you to find areas where he can run like a maniac to his heart's content then come home and fall into a blissful sleepas they say "a tired dog is a good dog." Some places that are often good to let him do the running he his mind, body and soul crave: -- fenced football fields or soccer fields (like behind schools) -- many churches have large expanses of green that are usually empty -- parks -- wilderness areas Since many of the large areas are not fenced, you will want to work on teaching him a VERY reliable recall. While you are out walking him (in a fenced area at first) teach him a "special" recall word you ONLY use when he MUST come and you can be sure he will. Dont use "come on, get over here, I said come here!" It should be "Fido, COME" (or HERE or COOKIE or whatever your word is)then have a REALLY tasty treat for him. Teach this in your house, yard, smaller areas like that at first. Then when you take him to a big place, attach to his collar a 50 foot length of light clothesline (you can buy 5/8" nylon in long lengths very cheap at any hardware store or Home Depo.) As he runs "free" just stay close to the end of the rope dragging on the ground. From time to time call him w/ your special word "Fido HERE!" and show him you have a cookie. Do this at first when he is close by you. Then let him go again, so he doesnt think coming back means getting in the car and going home, an end to his fun. Have him sit, take his collar gently, then let him have the food.let him eat the treat only after you have your hand on his collar. Then let him go play again. Do this many times, from gradually increasing distances, during his walk. Stay close to the rope dragging the ground, so you could always just step on it if he doesnt IMMEDIATELY turn and come on your first command. Do not repeat the command over and over. Even if you had to reel him in like a fish, as soon as he starts to come you must enthusiastically praise him for doing the right thing (coming), and definitely praise very happily when he gets to you. Coming to you is ALWAYS a good thing, no matter what he did before that. For a dog w/ a reliable recall, there are so many more safe places he can run and play and love life!! Vilma Briggs (Kistner) Mt. Gilead, OH U-UD Mocha Java Slurp, UDX, HIC, TT Ch. Brighteye Expresso Bean, UD, NDD, TT U-CDX Our Little Buddy, UD, NA, TT Thirdtym's A Charm, CGC and Ted
exercise and teenagers
My Han is now 9 months old and since I want to show him, intact. I feel that he needs the chance to run more than he can in our small yard and soon he won't be able to go to the dog parks. I know with horses most muscle building is done at a trot but what about dogs? I am hesitant to let him run unleashed in an unfenced area but I have one place that we have been able to use that has been, so far, without dogs. I would appreciate any suggestions as to how much and what kind of exercise would be best. Also, does anyone have any wise suggestions for what to expect and how to deal with a teenager? Silas was neutered by this age so I have no experience in this department as far as hormones go. Thanks Beverly and Han ( h, what's that smell!) In loving memory of Silas (K T Silas Hope TD CD CGC) March 1992- Jan 2002
Credit for Brags and Raffle
Since I know that my dogs will give me lots to brag about this year, I was thinking that perhaps I could send another check to the BARC/LOC raffle for future brags -- would this be permitted??? Mary-Ann Bowman Utah
Getting Sick Dogs to Drink
I have had very good results putting a bit of chicken broth in my dogs' water ... Maria Crifasi (Daisy and Buddy) Catoctin Mountains, Maryland -- where the snow is high, the work ethic is low and the skis are waxed Ü
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Re: Glucosamine/chondroitin
I personally have been getting my G/C at GNC -- which, recently dropped the price drastically (more than 1/2) -- I think it was about $13 for 120 tablets -- plus we save more when I buy on the days that they have sales. I give him 1 a day. I've been the adopted mom of 11 year old Beauregard (some of you may recall when he needed a home when his family in Peoria IL were relocated to New Zealand) since November of 2002. We started him on G/C right away -- we give it to our Buhund with HD, and knowing his age, and that he has suffered from arthritis in his elbow; we figured it'd be the right thing to do. I've noticed in the last few weeks that Beau seems to really be doing well on it! Now, when I mention the "T" word (treat) he gets so excited, and jumps, leaps, turns, spins, and of course barks ... Heehee ... He barks with so much energy that his front end picks up (from a sit) .. I'm afraid he's going to knock himself over!!! He'll even chase me down the hallway when I mention anything food related, at a full Berner gallop. He also used to 1/2 jump up on me thing.. from a sit .. Now he's doing it more often without the sit, standing up -- oops, he's taller than me now! I'm so happy that he's feeling so good, especially knowing his age. He even LIKES the cold and snow!! Which really surprised me -- only once I've seen him get up a bit slow after laying down outside for a while. Of course, he may not like the cold at all, but may like the rub down and feet/belly cleaning he gets when he comes back inside!! He's such a sucker for a rub. He's like a motorcycle ... One or two scratches gets that back foot going, then there's no stopping him! he's such a comedian. I love him dearly -- can you tell? :-D So .. I'm a big pro-G/C person -- now I need to take it myself (oh my aching back!)! --Tracey & Beau (who says I'm GERIATRIC! HA! I jump in your lap!) -- If I am not mistaken, the Costco Generic is formulated & mfg. by Nature Made Vitamins (Pharmavite Corp). My MIL is a Senior VP there, i will call her tonight & ask & get back to the list. Michele Long > > Maybe. Maybe not. > > The brand name CosaminDS (Nutramax) from Costco is the one that has a lot > of > studies done on it - my vet recommended it even tho it is quite a bit more > expensive than the Costco generic.
Berners and Cold
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I have a Berner who is 22 months old who likes to go outside most of the day > and although I leave the back door open for her she rarely comes in, it is > fairly cold at the moment and was wondering if this would harm her in anyway Well, my Berner is happy to go out and hang in the snow and cold when it is in the single digits Fahrenheit here in Northeastern Pennsylvania. He would prefer to be with us, so he stays in more, but when I am out with the horses he is often out the entire time in the dog part of the yard (fenced off, has dog door to house). My Pyrs are often out sleeping in the snow much of the night when it is very cold; Lliira has slept on the deck in freezing rain until her hair was iced to the planking, and she was perfectly content and ignored her dog house, the cubby under the deck she sleeps in to be cool in summer, and the option of coming in. Remember, these dogs were bred to be farmyard guardians in Switzerland. I doubt England can dish out the kind of weather you see on a bad day in the Alps. :-) I suspect your girl will be just fine in the winter weather. Eileen Morgan The Mare's Nest http://www.enter.net/~edlehman --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/2002
RE: Car sick Cooper
Hi Lindsay, I can relate to Cooper's problem as I'm a human with that problem. A lot depends on the type of vehicle and its stability on the road coupled with driving technique. I have a friend who zooms up to bends and turnings, hits the brake and then whooshes around the corner and that is guaranteed to have my stomach become unsettled. I thanked God when automatic transmissions became common place because my husband could dislocate my neck with his gear changes, again all that bracing had me reaching for the bucket again. Another friend dawdles along swaying like a drunken driver and that too upsets my equilibrium. My only sure fire way to have a comfortable drive is to take the wheel myself! Not an option for the dog although mine like to sit in the driver's seat while waiting for me:-) Oh and another is when the shocks are starting to go that boat on the ocean sensation is not good! Try gravol:-) Rose
re: dog with eye socket problem
Please, people who write to the list about Bernese with eye problems, consider taking your dog(s) to a specialist who has the kind of highly trained and developed skills and sophisticated equipment necessary to make a firm diagnosis. Your veterinarian can refer you to a specialist in your general area. To the person with the Berner with the eye socket problem; can you be a little more specific? Is this entropian? Has the breeder actually seen the dog's eyes? I was, for a long while, always wiping Yoda's goopy eyes and putting various prescribed ointments in them. My Yoda (1992-2002) had runny eyes from day one and eventually required about five surgeries (three in one eye, two in the other) to correct entropian. Although his breeder's advice was always very valuable to me, she lived three thousand miles from us and saw Yoda only two or three times, at Nationals. Since some eye conditions can cause or lead to loss of sight, an appointment with an eye specialist would be best for the dog and put your mind at ease. Lisa Allen _ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
BARC LOC Challenge Raffle NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!!
A belated Happy New Year to everyone - may 2003 only hold good things for you and your Berners. I want to remind everyone that you can still make a donation to the BARC LOC Challenge Fundraiser. We have 83 super Berner items that you can try to win. If you haven't seen them, then you need to go to the web site that Karen Pickel made for us and check them out: http://www.overthefence.com/raffle/BARC/ I know that once you see the fantastic prizes for this fundraiser that you will want to run to your checkbook to send in a donation to BARC and/or LOC. This is a terrific way to make a donation to two tremendous organizations and at the same time have a chance to win some very nice Berner items. This is a Challenge Fundraiser - we are trying to raise a lot of money for BARC and LOC and the challenge is to see which group can raise the most money. So far, we have raised a total of $2,192.69. BARC has raised $1,173.69 and LOC has raised $1,019.00. Come on you folks who support LOC - we need to catch up with that BARC amount.I'd like to see this fundraiser end with a lot of money for both organizations and a "Tie" would be fine as far as I'm concerned. There are only sixteen days left for this fundraiser and I'd like to see us raise at least $4,000. We can do it, but we everyone to participate - it will give us all a "warm puppy dog" feeling to help these two groups. Go hug your Bernersthen go write a check!! Joye Neff (Samantha and Ben) Mt. Lebanon, Pittsburgh, PA
to tempt sick dog to drink/eat (was colonitis)
Other ideas to tempt her appetite: Vanilla ice cream was one of the few things I have had sick dogs want to eatthen if they eat that I can make milk shakes w/ some raw eggs blended in for protien as the next step. Or sprinkle parmesean cheese over the top of the water to increase fluid intake and decrease the risk of dehydration. Or mix some Gatorade in w/ the water. Vilma Briggs (Kistner) Mt. Gilead, OH U-UD Mocha Java Slurp, UDX, HIC, TT Ch. Brighteye Expresso Bean, UD, NDD, TT U-CDX Our Little Buddy, UD, NA, TT Thirdtym's A Charm, CGC and Ted
Re: BERNER-L digest 4209
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Re: Hemorrhagic colonitis update
In a message dated 1/5/2003 10:36:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Now I'm trying pureed food and putting it in ice trays. Any ideas? Jarred babyfood and canned cat food are often used in hospitals to entice dogs to eat. Did you do the ACTH response test? This is a simple test that would rule in or out one of the most likely causes for what you've described (Addison's Disease)...and it's treatable so a Dx would be a 'good thing'. If you want first hand info on the various ways Addison's can present, contact Penel (I'm sorry I don't know her last name) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Sherri Venditti
Happy Birthday to Amanda
Happy Birthday to Amanda who turned 7 on January 1. She is still a great big puppy. With almost 2 feet of snow on the front lawn, she continues to be a bouncing baby wiggle butt. Also happy birthday to her little brother Pete who turned 7 on January 5. Not a berner but still bouncy and full of life. Betsy, Pete, Amanda and Remy Hopkinton MA
training pups in winter
Hi Joseph, Reading your post about housebreaking a puppy during winter made me chuckle as I remembered doing so with Olaf, now 14 months old! He was born in late September 2001 and we brought him home to New Hampshire around Thanksgiving time. We spent some time freezing ourselves while waiting for the puppy to "do his business" outside, but the cold and snow never seemed to bother the little guy one bit! What made me laugh was thinking of how he thought he was supposed to go on snow and how he utilized the last little bit of a snow pile until it melted in the spring! Then he had to learn to go on the grass! Best of luck with your new puppy! Tambi Rondinone (Eiger, 3 yrs. and Olaf, 1 yr.) Goffstown, NH
