keybindings
Is there some standard window manager keybindings? I'm more curious than anything, but if there is such a standards doc out there, I'd like to peruse it. Thanks. -- Derek Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Human beings act intelligently only after they have exhausted the alternatives -- Abba Eban Registered Linux User Number 195825
Re: keybindings
On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 09:05:52AM -0400, Derek Cunningham wrote: Is there some standard window manager keybindings? I'm more curious than anything, but if there is such a standards doc out there, I'd like to peruse it. No, the default bbkeys install doesn't come with any key-bindings. I think epist is the same as well. Blackbox itself doesn't catch any key events. xOr -- I am damn unsatisfied to be killed in this way. msg07529/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: keybindings
On Thu, Jun27,02 08:48, xOr wrote: On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 09:05:52AM -0400, Derek Cunningham wrote: Is there some standard window manager keybindings? I'm more curious than anything, but if there is such a standards doc out there, I'd like to peruse it. No, the default bbkeys install doesn't come with any key-bindings. I think epist is the same as well. Blackbox itself doesn't catch any key events. huh? I'm aware that bbkeys doesn't come with a default config... that wasn't even my question. The question is whether or not there's some doc, similar to the ICCCM specification, that defines which keys the window manager should be allowed to map (ie: the doc would say that ALT+# is reserved for workspace changing, ALT+F4 is reserved for closing windows, etc). Again, I ask out of curiosity, and don't suspect such a doc exists, and if it does, I'm SURE there's applications and/or window managers that are violating it. DC -- Derek Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Human beings act intelligently only after they have exhausted the alternatives -- Abba Eban Registered Linux User Number 195825
Re: keybindings
On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 08:48:22 -0500 xOr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blackbox itself doesn't catch any key events. Not quite so. There are a few keys that BB will catch, such as ALT in conjunction with a right/left mouse click (I was corrected on this in the past). I don't have a complete list (haven't bothered with it really), but for the most part xOr's statement is correct. There are very few keys that BB natively uses. -- Jamin W. Collins
Re: keybindings
On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 10:00:05AM -0400, Derek Cunningham wrote: On Thu, Jun27,02 08:48, xOr wrote: On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 09:05:52AM -0400, Derek Cunningham wrote: Is there some standard window manager keybindings? I'm more curious than anything, but if there is such a standards doc out there, I'd like to peruse it. No, the default bbkeys install doesn't come with any key-bindings. I think epist is the same as well. Blackbox itself doesn't catch any key events. huh? I'm aware that bbkeys doesn't come with a default config... that wasn't even my question. The question is whether or not there's some doc, similar to the ICCCM specification, that defines which keys the window manager should be allowed to map (ie: the doc would say that ALT+# is reserved for workspace changing, ALT+F4 is reserved for closing windows, etc). Again, I ask out of curiosity, and don't suspect such a doc exists, and if it does, I'm SURE there's applications and/or window managers that are violating it. Ah, I see. I have never heard of nor seen such a document, and highly doubt its existance, since everyone loves modifyable keybindings so much. xOr -- I am damn unsatisfied to be killed in this way. msg07535/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: keybindings
On Thu, Jun27,02 09:05, xOr wrote: The question is whether or not there's some doc, similar to the ICCCM specification, that defines which keys the window manager should be allowed to map (ie: the doc would say that ALT+# is reserved for workspace changing, ALT+F4 is reserved for closing windows, etc). Again, I ask out of curiosity, and don't suspect such a doc exists, and if it does, I'm SURE there's applications and/or window managers that are violating it. Ah, I see. I have never heard of nor seen such a document, and highly doubt its existance, since everyone loves modifyable keybindings so much. As expected. :) DC -- Derek Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Human beings act intelligently only after they have exhausted the alternatives -- Abba Eban Registered Linux User Number 195825
RE: keybindings
On 27-Jun-2002 Derek Cunningham wrote: Is there some standard window manager keybindings? I'm more curious than anything, but if there is such a standards doc out there, I'd like to peruse it. no each group did their own thing. The ICCCM actually says the window manager should NOT have keybindings, but most of us believe that reflects the time the ICCCM was written and igore it. As for the actions that a binding can make it depends on how tightly bound to the wm you are. A keybinder very integrated into the window manager can offer all kinds of options whereas one like bbkeys is restricted mostly to actions the user could make.
bbconf and multiple keybindings?
Hi there, (xOr) I have applied two different key-bindings for NextWindow manually in the .bbkeysrc, but this is not possible using bbconf, and now I'm a little afraid what will happen if I actually do anything with bbconf and keybindings? How about supporting multiple keybindings? Regards, Martin
keybindings
I have a logitech internet keyboard and have loaded the map for the extra keys in XFree86 with this line: Option XkbModel logiinternet I have 3 keys working easily in fluxbox. I have used bbkeys and bbconf to try to load the keys XF86WWW, XF86AudioRaiseVolume, and XF86AudioLowerVolume to execute commands without success. In bbconf when i press the keys over the button for custom key neither keys are recognized yet they show up correctly using xev. Is this a bug or what? The keys work fine in fluxbox and I mostly use fluxbox but I'm curious as to why I can't get them to work in blackbox. Also I can't get the keys to work in kde which has a button to add custom key in kmenuedit that looks just like the button in bbconf(problem with the type of button?). It's mind boggling that they work in fluxbox and not blackbox. -- I've made many statements about being sober, and one I can really say is ... sobriety f**king sucks! --Ozzy Osbourne Chad Young Registered Linux User #195191 @ http://counter.li.org --- Linux localhost 2.4.18-pre7-ac2 #2 Thu Jan 31 18:48:48 AST 2002 i686 unknown 9:30pm up 9:12, 7 users, load average: 0.01, 0.10, 0.14
Re: keybindings
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 09:43:00PM -0400, skidley wrote: I have a logitech internet keyboard and have loaded the map for the extra keys in XFree86 with this line: Option XkbModel logiinternet I have 3 keys working easily in fluxbox. I have used bbkeys and bbconf to try to load the keys XF86WWW, XF86AudioRaiseVolume, and XF86AudioLowerVolume to execute commands without success. In bbconf when i press the keys over the button for custom key neither keys are recognized yet they show up correctly using xev. Is this a bug or what? The keys work fine in fluxbox and I mostly use fluxbox but I'm curious as to why I can't get them to work in blackbox. Also I can't get the keys to work in kde which has a button to add custom key in kmenuedit that looks just like the button in bbconf(problem with the type of button?). It's mind boggling that they work in fluxbox and not blackbox. -- I've made many statements about being sober, and one I can really say is ... sobriety f**king sucks! --Ozzy Osbourne Chad Young Registered Linux User #195191 @ http://counter.li.org --- Linux localhost 2.4.18-pre7-ac2 #2 Thu Jan 31 18:48:48 AST 2002 i686 unknown 9:30pm up 9:12, 7 users, load average: 0.01, 0.10, 0.14 I have a similar/same keyboard to yours...and I had the InternetKeys as my primary source of keybinding for quite a while. I was able to get them configured quite fine in the old Qt bbkeys interface...I'm not sure how well bbconf does it. I've since moved on to different keybindings, though.
Re: keybindings
On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 19:43, skidley wrote: I have a logitech internet keyboard and have loaded the map for the extra keys in XFree86 with this line: Option XkbModel logiinternet I have 3 keys working easily in fluxbox. I have used bbkeys and bbconf to try to load the keys XF86WWW, XF86AudioRaiseVolume, and XF86AudioLowerVolume to execute commands without success. I've found (thanks to advice from this list) that there is better success in remapping the keys to the extra F?? keys via xmodmap. If you'd like I can provide my '.Xmodmap' file as an example. Details are in the list archives also. Jamin W. Collins
Re: keybindings
On 1 Feb 2002, Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 19:43, skidley wrote: I have a logitech internet keyboard and have loaded the map for the extra keys in XFree86 with this line: Option XkbModel logiinternet I have 3 keys working easily in fluxbox. I have used bbkeys and bbconf to try to load the keys XF86WWW, XF86AudioRaiseVolume, and XF86AudioLowerVolume to execute commands without success. I've found (thanks to advice from this list) that there is better success in remapping the keys to the extra F?? keys via xmodmap. If you'd like I can provide my '.Xmodmap' file as an example. Details are in the list archives also. Jamin W. Collins I have done this and had them working but it seems it should be much easier to use the defined keys for the particular kb. But I even tried that method b4 I sent my email and blackbox wouldn't run them although they were recognized in bbconf. The point I was trying to make and find out more about is why they would work flawlessly in fluxbox and not in blackbox when the methods of defining them are similar. -- I've made many statements about being sober, and one I can really say is ... sobriety f**king sucks! --Ozzy Osbourne Chad Young Registered Linux User #195191 @ http://counter.li.org --- Linux localhost 2.4.18-pre7-ac2 #2 Thu Jan 31 18:48:48 AST 2002 i686 unknown 2:05am up 13:47, 7 users, load average: 0.03, 0.02, 0.00
Re: keybindings
On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Ben Neuman wrote: I have a similar/same keyboard to yours...and I had the InternetKeys as my primary source of keybinding for quite a while. I was able to get them configured quite fine in the old Qt bbkeys interface...I'm not sure how well bbconf does it. I've since moved on to different keybindings, though. I find this hard to believe, I have used the bbkeys and it doesn't work. It should work I can't see why it wouldn't as when I run xev the keys register as they are supposed to. How would I define keys to work in mozilla, like the back, fwd, stop, reload, etc. when they already have keybindings built in. -- I've made many statements about being sober, and one I can really say is ... sobriety f**king sucks! --Ozzy Osbourne Chad Young Registered Linux User #195191 @ http://counter.li.org --- Linux localhost 2.4.18-pre7-ac2 #2 Thu Jan 31 18:48:48 AST 2002 i686 unknown 2:10am up 13:52, 7 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Re: keybindings
On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Ben Neuman wrote: I have a similar/same keyboard to yours...and I had the InternetKeys as my primary source of keybinding for quite a while. I was able to get them configured quite fine in the old Qt bbkeys interface...I'm not sure how well bbconf does it. I've since moved on to different keybindings, though. I have it working now. I wasn't that familiar with bbkeys, I thought it was a tool to setup keys and that was it. I didn't realize you had to have that stupid little bbkeys box opened! I don't know why I was working so hard to get it working as it wroks excellent in fluxbox and I primarily use fluxbox anyway. I guess sometimes you just have to get things working to prove ya can. Now to get all the keys to do what they are supposed to in mozilla. -- I've made many statements about being sober, and one I can really say is ... sobriety f**king sucks! --Ozzy Osbourne Chad Young Registered Linux User #195191 @ http://counter.li.org --- Linux localhost 2.4.18-pre7-ac2 #2 Thu Jan 31 18:48:48 AST 2002 i686 unknown 2:35am up 14:17, 7 users, load average: 0.18, 0.13, 0.04
Re: keybindings
On 1 Feb 2002, Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 19:43, skidley wrote: I have a logitech internet keyboard and have loaded the map for the extra keys in XFree86 with this line: Option XkbModel logiinternet I have 3 keys working easily in fluxbox. I have used bbkeys and bbconf to try to load the keys XF86WWW, XF86AudioRaiseVolume, and XF86AudioLowerVolume to execute commands without success. I've found (thanks to advice from this list) that there is better success in remapping the keys to the extra F?? keys via xmodmap. If you'd like I can provide my '.Xmodmap' file as an example. Details are in the list archives also. Jamin W. Collins I have it figured out now w/o doing it hard way by remapping keys in a .Xmodmap that already are supposed to be mapped. But I could use some advice on how to get internet hotkeys like back, fwd, etc. to work in mozilla, maybe if you have done this in your .Xmodmap I could use it as an eg. -- I've made many statements about being sober, and one I can really say is ... sobriety f**king sucks! --Ozzy Osbourne Chad Young Registered Linux User #195191 @ http://counter.li.org --- Linux localhost 2.4.18-pre7-ac2 #2 Thu Jan 31 18:48:48 AST 2002 i686 unknown 2:40am up 14:22, 7 users, load average: 0.03, 0.10, 0.04
Re: keybindings
On Sat, 2 Feb 2002 02:42:27 -0400 (AST) skidley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have it working now. I wasn't that familiar with bbkeys, I thought it was a tool to setup keys and that was it. I didn't realize you had to have that stupid little bbkeys box opened! You don't. Iconify it. 'bbkeys -i ' ^_^ -- Joseph Applegate (SB-X) UIN: 9788597
Keybindings in version 0.5.x
Hello, I just wanted to take a look at blackbox wm, coz I wanted something new. I was able to configure it like I wanted it to be, but I would like to have some keybindings to open an xterm for example. I read that you have to use bbkeys for version = 0.6.0 but I didn't find any info about how to get those in version 0.5.x I am using Debian Potato, so I have to use that version. Ok, I compiled the version from woody, but there were some problems, coz then I had no keys at all. I wasn't able to switch workspaces :-( Can anybody help? Best regards, Arvid -- .''`. [Arvid Warnecke] [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [05323-715724] : :' : [IRC madhatter] [ http://up.to/suck ] [PGP-Subject: get pgp key] `. `' Linux 2.4.2 i686 XFree86 Version 4.0.2 Uptime: 1 day, 2:02 `-- BOFH #54: Evil dogs hypnotized the night shift msg04705/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Keybindings in version 0.5.x
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 10:32:09PM +0100, Arvid Warnecke wrote: Hello, I just wanted to take a look at blackbox wm, coz I wanted something new. I was able to configure it like I wanted it to be, but I would like to have some keybindings to open an xterm for example. I read that you have to use bbkeys for version = 0.6.0 but I didn't find any info about how to get those in version 0.5.x I am using Debian Potato, so I have to use that version. Ok, I compiled the version from woody, but there were some problems, coz then I had no keys at all. I wasn't able to switch workspaces :-( When using 0.6x, you need to install the bbkeys program (bbkeys.sourceforge.net). It will provide you with the keybinds to switch workspace, run xterms, etc. I don't know anything about 0.5x :) xOr -- I am damn unsatisfied to be killed in this way. msg04706/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Keybindings in version 0.5.x
On 07-Jan-2002 Arvid Warnecke wrote: Hello, I just wanted to take a look at blackbox wm, coz I wanted something new. I was able to configure it like I wanted it to be, but I would like to have some keybindings to open an xterm for example. I read that you have to use bbkeys for version = 0.6.0 but I didn't find any info about how to get those in version 0.5.x I am using Debian Potato, so I have to use that version. Ok, I compiled the version from woody, but there were some problems, coz then I had no keys at all. I wasn't able to switch workspaces :-( 0.5x.x has keybindings in it, just read the docs. 0.6x.x removed keybindings, you need bbkeys. So, run potato's blackbox and you get keybindings (they are static, you do not get much of a choice about WHICH keys). Run woody or later's blackbox and also woody's bbkeys. (Sean, also the Debian maintainer of the blackbox suite).
Re: Keybindings in version 0.5.x
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 01:39:25PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: On 07-Jan-2002 Arvid Warnecke wrote: I just wanted to take a look at blackbox wm, coz I wanted something new. I was able to configure it like I wanted it to be, but I would like to have some keybindings to open an xterm for example. I read that you have to use bbkeys for version = 0.6.0 but I didn't find any info about how to get those in version 0.5.x 0.5x.x has keybindings in it, just read the docs. Read them, but I had the hope, that I would be able to define bindings on my own, and not only can decide if I want Mod1 or CTRL :-( 0.6x.x removed keybindings, you need bbkeys. So, run potato's blackbox and you get keybindings (they are static, you do not get much of a choice about WHICH keys). Run woody or later's blackbox and also woody's bbkeys. So, if I install woody's blackbox and bbkeys it is normal that I can't switch workspaces, but have define those bindings with bbkeys first? Regards, Arvid -- .''`. [Arvid Warnecke] [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [05323-715724] : :' : [IRC madhatter] [ http://up.to/suck ] [PGP-Subject: get pgp key] `. `' Linux 2.4.2 i686 XFree86 Version 4.0.2 Uptime: 1 day, 2:18 `-- BOFH #344: Network failure - call NBC msg04708/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Keybindings in version 0.5.x
So, if I install woody's blackbox and bbkeys it is normal that I can't switch workspaces, but have define those bindings with bbkeys first? yes. bbkeys catches key presses, decides what you wanted them to mean, and then tells blackbox what you asked for.
Re: Keybindings in version 0.5.x
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 02:02:49PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: So, if I install woody's blackbox and bbkeys it is normal that I can't switch workspaces, but have define those bindings with bbkeys first? yes. bbkeys catches key presses, decides what you wanted them to mean, and then tells blackbox what you asked for. Is there a example file where I can see how to write my own .bbkeysrc (was that the correct file-name?) and which syntax I have to use for switching to Workspace1 by pressing Alt+F1? If so, I would build the woody packages again :-) Regards, Arvid -- .''`. [Arvid Warnecke] [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [05323-715724] : :' : [IRC madhatter] [ http://up.to/suck ] [PGP-Subject: get pgp key] `. `' Linux 2.4.2 i686 XFree86 Version 4.0.2 Uptime: 1 day, 2:42 `-- BOFH #157: Incorrect time syncronization msg04712/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Keybindings in version 0.5.x
On 07-Jan-2002 Arvid Warnecke wrote: On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 02:02:49PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: So, if I install woody's blackbox and bbkeys it is normal that I can't switch workspaces, but have define those bindings with bbkeys first? yes. bbkeys catches key presses, decides what you wanted them to mean, and then tells blackbox what you asked for. Is there a example file where I can see how to write my own .bbkeysrc (was that the correct file-name?) and which syntax I have to use for switching to Workspace1 by pressing Alt+F1? If so, I would build the woody packages again :-) I believe so, but to be sure, here is my bbkeys rc. .bbkeysrc Description: .bbkeysrc
Re: Keybindings in version 0.5.x
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 02:21:17PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: So, if I install woody's blackbox and bbkeys it is normal that I can't switch workspaces, but have define those bindings with bbkeys first? yes. bbkeys catches key presses, decides what you wanted them to mean, and then tells blackbox what you asked for. Is there a example file where I can see how to write my own .bbkeysrc (was that the correct file-name?) and which syntax I have to use for switching to Workspace1 by pressing Alt+F1? If so, I would build the woody packages again :-) I believe so, but to be sure, here is my bbkeys rc. Thanks. I set up a ~/.bbkeysrc, but how is bbkeys started? Do I have to write a line in my ~/.blackboxrc? Best regards, Arvid -- .''`. [Arvid Warnecke] [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [05323-715724] : :' : [IRC madhatter] [ http://up.to/suck ] [PGP-Subject: get pgp key] `. `' Linux 2.4.2 i686 XFree86 Version 4.0.2 Uptime: 1 day, 3:05 `-- BOFH #103: operators on strike due to broken coffee machine msg04718/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Keybindings in version 0.5.x
On 07-Jan-2002 Arvid Warnecke wrote: On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 02:21:17PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: So, if I install woody's blackbox and bbkeys it is normal that I can't switch workspaces, but have define those bindings with bbkeys first? yes. bbkeys catches key presses, decides what you wanted them to mean, and then tells blackbox what you asked for. Is there a example file where I can see how to write my own .bbkeysrc (was that the correct file-name?) and which syntax I have to use for switching to Workspace1 by pressing Alt+F1? If so, I would build the woody packages again :-) I believe so, but to be sure, here is my bbkeys rc. Thanks. I set up a ~/.bbkeysrc, but how is bbkeys started? Do I have to write a line in my ~/.blackboxrc? it is in the debian menu under Apps/tools or you can put it in either .xinitrc or .xsession.
Re: Keybindings in version 0.5.x
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 02:39:16PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: Is there a example file where I can see how to write my own .bbkeysrc (was that the correct file-name?) and which syntax I have to use for switching to Workspace1 by pressing Alt+F1? I believe so, but to be sure, here is my bbkeys rc. Thanks. I set up a ~/.bbkeysrc, but how is bbkeys started? Do I have to write a line in my ~/.blackboxrc? it is in the debian menu under Apps/tools or you can put it in either .xinitrc or .xsession. Ok, thanks. Seems to work now. Only problem I have: bbkeys is started. I use 'bbkeys -i ' in my .xinitrc because I won't see it the whole day opened on the desktop. Is that the best way or is there another chance to run it in behind? BTW can I set a wallpaper in blackbox directly? I only found some posts which told that you should use display in .xinitrc, which isn't that nice... Best regards, Arvid -- .''`. [Arvid Warnecke] [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [05323-715724] : :' : [IRC madhatter] [ http://up.to/suck ] [PGP-Subject: get pgp key] `. `' Linux 2.4.2 i686 XFree86 Version 4.0.2 Uptime: 1 day, 3:28 `-- BOFH #192: runaway cat on system. msg04725/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Keybindings in version 0.5.x
On 07-Jan-2002 Arvid Warnecke wrote: On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 02:39:16PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: Is there a example file where I can see how to write my own .bbkeysrc (was that the correct file-name?) and which syntax I have to use for switching to Workspace1 by pressing Alt+F1? I believe so, but to be sure, here is my bbkeys rc. Thanks. I set up a ~/.bbkeysrc, but how is bbkeys started? Do I have to write a line in my ~/.blackboxrc? it is in the debian menu under Apps/tools or you can put it in either .xinitrc or .xsession. Ok, thanks. Seems to work now. Only problem I have: bbkeys is started. I use 'bbkeys -i ' in my .xinitrc because I won't see it the whole day opened on the desktop. Is that the best way or is there another chance to run it in behind? that is a good way. BTW can I set a wallpaper in blackbox directly? I only found some posts which told that you should use display in .xinitrc, which isn't that nice... most of us let the style we use set the background image. display is still one of the best tools to use. There are some GUI ones as well. blackbox itself does not set the background or touch it in any way. So however you choose to do it will work.
Re: Keybindings in version 0.5.x
On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 12:18:47AM +0100, Arvid Warnecke wrote: On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 03:05:34PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: I believe so, but to be sure, here is my bbkeys rc. Thanks. I set up a ~/.bbkeysrc, but how is bbkeys started? Do I have to write a line in my ~/.blackboxrc? it is in the debian menu under Apps/tools or you can put it in either .xinitrc or .xsession. bbkeys is started. I use 'bbkeys -i ' in my .xinitrc because I won't see it the whole day opened on the desktop. Is that the best way or is there another chance to run it in behind? that is a good way. Ok, so I will leave it that way. BTW can I set a wallpaper in blackbox directly? I only found some posts which told that you should use display in .xinitrc, which isn't that nice... most of us let the style we use set the background image. display is still one of the best tools to use. There are some GUI ones as well. blackbox itself does not set the background or touch it in any way. So however you choose to do it will work. Ok, so if I want to handle it by the style I have to take a look in those files?! Might be a better solution than in .xinitrc because then I don't have to restart X to change the wallpapers I think. I will check that out then. Thanks for the support. Now I am at a point where I can really enjoy my new WM and remove that other ugly crap ;-) btw, if you're looking to edit the styles on your computer, there's a program to help you out with that. Check out bbconf.sourceforge.net. xOr -- I am damn unsatisfied to be killed in this way. msg04729/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Keybindings in version 0.5.x
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 03:30:09PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: Ok, so if I want to handle it by the style I have to take a look in those files?! Might be a better solution than in .xinitrc because then I don't have to restart X to change the wallpapers I think. you can change your style at any time, same with your wallpaper. In each style is a line like this: rootCommand: setbg ~/.blackbox/Backgrounds/aphex.jpg setbg is not available here. I only have display. Is 'setbg' faster? I use 1280x1024, so it takes some time to load the wallpaper :-( this is how the style sets the background image. The other option is the various GUI background controllers. Some of them offer rotation at intervals and other nifty features. I tried 'chbg' but it has to many functions. I only need one wallpaper. Rotating makes me nervous ;-) Regards, Arvid -- .''`. [Arvid Warnecke] [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [05323-715724] : :' : [IRC madhatter] [ http://up.to/suck ] [PGP-Subject: get pgp key] `. `' Linux 2.4.2 i686 XFree86 Version 4.0.2 Uptime: 1 day, 4:51 `-- BOFH #399: We are a 100% Microsoft Shop. msg04734/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Keybindings in version 0.5.x
On 08-Jan-2002 Arvid Warnecke wrote: On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 03:30:09PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: Ok, so if I want to handle it by the style I have to take a look in those files?! Might be a better solution than in .xinitrc because then I don't have to restart X to change the wallpapers I think. you can change your style at any time, same with your wallpaper. In each style is a line like this: rootCommand: setbg ~/.blackbox/Backgrounds/aphex.jpg setbg is not available here. I only have display. Is 'setbg' faster? I use 1280x1024, so it takes some time to load the wallpaper :-( not important, display is what I actually use here (-:
keybindings
Hi, i know about bbkeys and xmodmap and xev... I wonder if it is possible to bind a key like F5 to execute a Prog like rxvt? thx regards sascha
Re: keybindings
Sascha Huedepohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, i know about bbkeys and xmodmap and xev... I wonder if it is possible to bind a key like F5 to execute a Prog like rxvt? Have you _tried_ it? KeyToGrab(F5), WithModifier(None), WithAction(ExecCommand), DoThis(rxvt) -Jan -- http://www.netmeister.org http://guinness.cs.stevens-tech.edu/~jschauma/
Keybindings patch for blackbox
After my earlier email, I got to thinking about my statement about key bindings. I realized that it couldn't be that hard to add them back into blackbox. So that's what I did. While I haven't gotten around to making a configuration option which allows you to turn them off and on, this should do for the time being. So if anyone else is tired of bbkeys, here you go. The only two available bindings are ctrl-arrows to change workspaces and alt-tab/alt-shift-tab to cycle windows, just like in the old days. You can find the patch, patched source, and Red Hat 7.1 source and binary rpms at http://crim.ece.ncsu.edu/~barlowg/blackbox -- Gregory J. Barlow http://barlow.ncssm.net NCSSM 99[EMAIL PROTECTED] NC State[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Keybindings Blackbox
Hey all, Being a lil' new to blackbox i've been unable to sucessfully use keybindings to switch between windows and workspaces. This is my part of my .blackboxrc --- session.screen0.colPlacementDirection: TopToBottom session.screen0.strftimeFormat: %I:%M %p %a %d %b session.screen0.focusModel: SloppyFocus session.screen0.rowPlacementDirection: LeftToRight session.screen0.focusLastWindow:False session.screen0.fullMaximization: False session.screen0.workspaceNames: WWW,Mail,Terminal session.doubleClickInterval:250 session.menuFile: /usr/local/share/Blackbox/menu session.opaqueMove: False session.workspaceChangeModifier:Control --- After reading the docs it seems that Ctrl (as seen above should) + Arrow-key should let me switch... however, it doesnt.. focus still seems to be on running app even after placing the cursor over the 'desktop' or toolbar (i've also tried clicking on it). can someone point to me why this isnt working? i'm using ver. 0.61 compiled from source. William
Re: Keybindings Blackbox
* William Leese [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Feb 21. 2001 19:13]: Hey all, Being a lil' new to blackbox i've been unable to sucessfully use keybindings to switch between windows and workspaces. Taken from the README file in the source tree: Third-party utilities: -- With the start of the 0.60.x series Blackbox no longer handles any keyboard shortcuts; instead it supports a communication protocol which allows other programs to handle these and related tasks. If you'd like to be able to use keyboard shortcuts with Blackbox, bbkeys (available at http://movingparts.windsofstorm.net/bbkeys.shtml) can provide you with all the previous functionality and more. Ciao, Mads Martin -- Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk "Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic and totally illogic, with just a little bit more effort." -- A. P. J.
Re: Keybindings Blackbox
* Mads Martin Joergensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Feb 21. 2001 19:21]: * Rich Lafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Feb 21. 2001 19:17]: can someone point to me why this isnt working? i'm using ver. 0.61 compiled from source. AFAIK, as of 0.61, that's entirely in bbkeys. (Not sure what docs you were reading, but it's not in 0.61.1's manpage at all.) The manual on http://bb.themes.org/ is up to date, I guess it's the docs that's beeing referred to here. And if I could type, I would have written: is not up to date.
Re: keybindings
On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Peter Peltonen wrote: "Gregory J. Barlow" wrote: What makes you think that people would bother to read that either? Because that's what it's for. People tend to search information from the software's web page. In the web page there is a link called "List of Changes" to a page that does not contain the information about key bindings. There is also the FAQ which does not contain this information. The person who asked the question also had searched the mailing list archives. IMHO that is enough background work done before sending a question to the list. I've also experienced that people who use RPMs (mostly newbie linux users) don't even know about the /usr/doc directory where the Changelogs et cetera are installed. They install the binary and if they run into problems they search the web page and then post to the newsgroup / mailing list. Of course they _should_ read every help/text-file what comes with the package, but that's just how people tend to do. A lot of bandwidth is saved with a good FAQ. From man blackbox (the first place one should turn): -- From version 0.60.x, Blackbox does no keyboard handling by itself; instead it relies on an external program bbkeys(1) for this. -- If this person had actually searched the mailing list archives, he would have found the answer to his question several times over, its not the first time someone has asked the question. I would like to know what FAQ you are looking at. The only one I see off of the main blackbox page is under the blackbox guide from bb.themes.org. In the introduction to this guide, it says: -- Please note, this guide is designed for use with the 0.5x.x series of Blackbox. The Guide for the beta 0.6x.x series is under development. -- This guide is in much the same state it was in when I wrote it ... in July 1999. Who knows if a guide for the current version will ever appear. Of course, the current bb.themes.org staff couldn't bother to include any credit to those who actually wrote the current version, but thats another story entirely. I am not against a good FAQ, I think it would be nice. I certainly dont enjoy having to answer the same question of newbies every week or so. There are two problems. Who is going to maintain it? And will most new users actually read it? -- Gregory J. Barlow http://barlow.ncssm.net NCSSM 99[EMAIL PROTECTED] NC State[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- "If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein
FAQ (was: keybindings)
I am not against a good FAQ, I think it would be nice. I certainly dont enjoy having to answer the same question of newbies every week or so. There are two problems. Who is going to maintain it? And will most new users actually read it? I am willing to spend five minutes each month maintaining a blackbox FAQ. I do have a FAQ at http://www.reedmedia.net/misc/blackbox/faq.html which I know needs lots of updates and additions. (I have compiled many updates -- which I just need to add. I'll try to do it today.) Themes.org asked me a couple months ago if they could publish my FAQ and I said yes, but I haven't heard back from them since. I now see that themes.org has changed their layout and you have to go a few levels deep (to see all the advertisements) before you can get to the link to my FAQ. I can quickly create a backend for my FAQ so it can easily generate clean text and HTML. Once cleaned up and updated, I'll submit the text FAQ to be included with the blackbox source. Also, if anyone wants to re-use my FAQ, please let me know. Also it would be good if the FAQ was mentioned in the mailing list "welcome" message and is available as a link from the official blackbox webpage. Jeremy C. Reed http://www.reedmedia.net/ http://bsd.reedmedia.net/
Re: FAQ (was: keybindings)
On Tue, 31 Oct 2000 13:32:24 -0800 (PST) "Jeremy C. Reed" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I can quickly create a backend for my FAQ so it can easily generate clean text and HTML. Once cleaned up and updated, I'll submit the text FAQ to be included with the blackbox source. Also, if anyone wants to re-use my FAQ, please let me know. Also it would be good if the FAQ was mentioned in the mailing list "welcome" message and is available as a link from the official blackbox webpage. I'm now trying to translate the blackbox documentations in japanese. (,and I had already finished your one.) So, would you like to make your latest backend FAQ (DocBook? ) avalable from your web, etc? thanks, --- SATO Satoru - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alt+tab keybindings
is there a way to bind alt+tab to change window, etc? i dont know if there is a program to do this or not.. http://movingparts.windsofstorm.net/bbkeys.shtml, bbkeys does all keybindings in bb v0.5.31 /lenix -- HP:http://lenix.web.ag Phone: 0173 - 80 99 196 No, CTRL-ALT-DEL is not the proper way to end a programm. (RFC 1882) ___ 1.000.000 DM gewinnen - kostenlos tippen - http://millionenklick.web.de [EMAIL PROTECTED], 8MB Speicher, Verschluesselung - http://freemail.web.de
alt+tab keybindings
is there a way to bind alt+tab to change window, etc? i dont know if there is a program to do this or not.. just switched over from kde to blackbox, love the styles and i like it better than kde.. hell of a lot faster.. latah -- .x([ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://cheba.darktech.org ])x. .x([ absolute zero: http://www.absolutezero.cx ])x.
