Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

2009-11-11 Thread Demir Ajvazi
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Dale Alton 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:08 AM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw



  I gont my 10 sliding from a pond shop and only paid about $100 for it. It
  is a Dellta Side kick.

  _ 

  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:54 PM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

  A good bit heavier, and because of the rails to slide on, they do take up a
  bit more room. 

  I had a Dewalt I think it was a 705. A 12 inch stationary compound miter.
  Had because one of my houses was broken into while being remodeled and I had
  stuck the saw in a closet. Someone got a beauty. 

  The stationary compound weighed about 45 pounds and I could carry it in one
  hand. 

  I now own a Dewalt 708, and it's massive compared to the 718 model that's
  out now. The rails that mine slide on are about an inch and a half in
  diameter, and just guessing but I'd bet it's double the weight of my first
  saw. 

  The 718 has a little wider cut than mine but I picked mine up as a payment
  for some back rent. So I couldn't beat the price... they don't make it now,
  and the 718 is the bells and whistles model. 

  If you're thinking of getting one, check out several different brands and do
  some checking online. I've seen a bunch of them from Ryobi to Festool. And
  the prices go up steadily until you go to Festool and then the curve becomes
  a wall... $1300 at last check. 

  Also try to get a hold of a radial arm saw and see which one you like
  better. The knock on the radial arm is that you can pull the blade over your
  hand. You can do that with a slider too if you don't pay attention. 

  They both seem to take up about as much bench top but in reality, a radial
  arm is more versatile. You can raise the blade much like a table saw, just
  in reverse order. you can put a stack of dado blades and cut very accurate
  dados as wide as the arm can go. You can't do that with a slider. 

  I know this will open the old discussion again about which is better. I'll
  just say the best saw is the one you like most. Play with a few different
  brands and you'll develop a favorite. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan  Terrie Robbins 
  To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:43 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

  Bob,

  Are the sliding compound units considerably larger in size and heavier in
  weight?

  Al
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  From: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
  yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
  yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:30 PM
  To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

  A standard miter can cut the width of the blade or part of that width as
  some goes beyond the fence.

  A sliding compound can get close to 16 inches in some cases. I have a 12
  inch model and I'm between 15 and 16 inches in cross cut width.
  - Original Message -
  From: Alan  Terrie Robbins
  To: Blindhandyman
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:26 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

  My understanding is there are a couple of different type
  power miter saws? I am borrowing my son-in-law's standard 10
  inch one and love it. He tells me there is a type with a
  sliding arm as well to accomplish the ability to cut a wider
  board. Any idea how much wider?

  Al

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

2009-11-11 Thread Demir Ajvazi
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Dale Alton 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:08 AM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw



  I gont my 10 sliding from a pond shop and only paid about $100 for it. It
  is a Dellta Side kick.

  _ 

  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:54 PM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

  A good bit heavier, and because of the rails to slide on, they do take up a
  bit more room. 

  I had a Dewalt I think it was a 705. A 12 inch stationary compound miter.
  Had because one of my houses was broken into while being remodeled and I had
  stuck the saw in a closet. Someone got a beauty. 

  The stationary compound weighed about 45 pounds and I could carry it in one
  hand. 

  I now own a Dewalt 708, and it's massive compared to the 718 model that's
  out now. The rails that mine slide on are about an inch and a half in
  diameter, and just guessing but I'd bet it's double the weight of my first
  saw. 

  The 718 has a little wider cut than mine but I picked mine up as a payment
  for some back rent. So I couldn't beat the price... they don't make it now,
  and the 718 is the bells and whistles model. 

  If you're thinking of getting one, check out several different brands and do
  some checking online. I've seen a bunch of them from Ryobi to Festool. And
  the prices go up steadily until you go to Festool and then the curve becomes
  a wall... $1300 at last check. 

  Also try to get a hold of a radial arm saw and see which one you like
  better. The knock on the radial arm is that you can pull the blade over your
  hand. You can do that with a slider too if you don't pay attention. 

  They both seem to take up about as much bench top but in reality, a radial
  arm is more versatile. You can raise the blade much like a table saw, just
  in reverse order. you can put a stack of dado blades and cut very accurate
  dados as wide as the arm can go. You can't do that with a slider. 

  I know this will open the old discussion again about which is better. I'll
  just say the best saw is the one you like most. Play with a few different
  brands and you'll develop a favorite. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan  Terrie Robbins 
  To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:43 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

  Bob,

  Are the sliding compound units considerably larger in size and heavier in
  weight?

  Al
  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
  yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
  yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:30 PM
  To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

  A standard miter can cut the width of the blade or part of that width as
  some goes beyond the fence.

  A sliding compound can get close to 16 inches in some cases. I have a 12
  inch model and I'm between 15 and 16 inches in cross cut width.
  - Original Message -
  From: Alan  Terrie Robbins
  To: Blindhandyman
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:26 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

  My understanding is there are a couple of different type
  power miter saws? I am borrowing my son-in-law's standard 10
  inch one and love it. He tells me there is a type with a
  sliding arm as well to accomplish the ability to cut a wider
  board. Any idea how much wider?

  Al

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

2009-11-11 Thread Matt
That is the kind I have as well.  I use it for cutting wood, and I also swich 
out the blades and cut metal pipe some with it too.
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  From: Demir Ajvazi 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:01 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw



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  - Original Message - 
  From: Dale Alton 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:08 AM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

  I gont my 10 sliding from a pond shop and only paid about $100 for it. It
  is a Dellta Side kick.

  _ 

  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:54 PM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

  A good bit heavier, and because of the rails to slide on, they do take up a
  bit more room. 

  I had a Dewalt I think it was a 705. A 12 inch stationary compound miter.
  Had because one of my houses was broken into while being remodeled and I had
  stuck the saw in a closet. Someone got a beauty. 

  The stationary compound weighed about 45 pounds and I could carry it in one
  hand. 

  I now own a Dewalt 708, and it's massive compared to the 718 model that's
  out now. The rails that mine slide on are about an inch and a half in
  diameter, and just guessing but I'd bet it's double the weight of my first
  saw. 

  The 718 has a little wider cut than mine but I picked mine up as a payment
  for some back rent. So I couldn't beat the price... they don't make it now,
  and the 718 is the bells and whistles model. 

  If you're thinking of getting one, check out several different brands and do
  some checking online. I've seen a bunch of them from Ryobi to Festool. And
  the prices go up steadily until you go to Festool and then the curve becomes
  a wall... $1300 at last check. 

  Also try to get a hold of a radial arm saw and see which one you like
  better. The knock on the radial arm is that you can pull the blade over your
  hand. You can do that with a slider too if you don't pay attention. 

  They both seem to take up about as much bench top but in reality, a radial
  arm is more versatile. You can raise the blade much like a table saw, just
  in reverse order. you can put a stack of dado blades and cut very accurate
  dados as wide as the arm can go. You can't do that with a slider. 

  I know this will open the old discussion again about which is better. I'll
  just say the best saw is the one you like most. Play with a few different
  brands and you'll develop a favorite. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan  Terrie Robbins 
  To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:43 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

  Bob,

  Are the sliding compound units considerably larger in size and heavier in
  weight?

  Al
  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
  yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
  yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:30 PM
  To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

  A standard miter can cut the width of the blade or part of that width as
  some goes beyond the fence.

  A sliding compound can get close to 16 inches in some cases. I have a 12
  inch model and I'm between 15 and 16 inches in cross cut width.
  - Original Message -
  From: Alan  Terrie Robbins
  To: Blindhandyman
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:26 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

  My understanding is there are a couple of different type
  power miter saws? I am borrowing my son-in-law's standard 10
  inch one and love it. He tells me there is a type with a
  sliding arm as well to accomplish the ability to cut a wider
  board. Any idea how much wider?

  Al

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

2009-11-11 Thread john schwery
So, what are the advantages of a miter saw over a radial arm saw?

earlier, Dale Alton, wrote:


I gont my 10 sliding from a pond shop and only paid about $100 for it. It
is a Dellta Side kick.

_

From: 
mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:54 PM
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

A good bit heavier, and because of the rails to slide on, they do take up a
bit more room.

I had a Dewalt I think it was a 705. A 12 inch stationary compound miter.
Had because one of my houses was broken into while being remodeled and I had
stuck the saw in a closet. Someone got a beauty.

The stationary compound weighed about 45 pounds and I could carry it in one
hand.

I now own a Dewalt 708, and it's massive compared to the 718 model that's
out now. The rails that mine slide on are about an inch and a half in
diameter, and just guessing but I'd bet it's double the weight of my first
saw.

The 718 has a little wider cut than mine but I picked mine up as a payment
for some back rent. So I couldn't beat the price... they don't make it now,
and the 718 is the bells and whistles model.

If you're thinking of getting one, check out several different brands and do
some checking online. I've seen a bunch of them from Ryobi to Festool. And
the prices go up steadily until you go to Festool and then the curve becomes
a wall... $1300 at last check.

Also try to get a hold of a radial arm saw and see which one you like
better. The knock on the radial arm is that you can pull the blade over your
hand. You can do that with a slider too if you don't pay attention.

They both seem to take up about as much bench top but in reality, a radial
arm is more versatile. You can raise the blade much like a table saw, just
in reverse order. you can put a stack of dado blades and cut very accurate
dados as wide as the arm can go. You can't do that with a slider.

I know this will open the old discussion again about which is better. I'll
just say the best saw is the one you like most. Play with a few different
brands and you'll develop a favorite.
- Original Message -
From: Alan  Terrie Robbins
To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:43 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

Bob,

Are the sliding compound units considerably larger in size and heavier in
weight?

Al
-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com
[mailto:blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:30 PM
To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

A standard miter can cut the width of the blade or part of that width as
some goes beyond the fence.

A sliding compound can get close to 16 inches in some cases. I have a 12
inch model and I'm between 15 and 16 inches in cross cut width.
- Original Message -
From: Alan  Terrie Robbins
To: Blindhandyman
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:26 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

My understanding is there are a couple of different type
power miter saws? I am borrowing my son-in-law's standard 10
inch one and love it. He tells me there is a type with a
sliding arm as well to accomplish the ability to cut a wider
board. Any idea how much wider?

Al

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

2009-11-11 Thread Tom Hodges
I have had both saws and I only have a 12 inch Deewalt miter saw now.  I
miss the radial arm saw very much.  I sold it because I was moving from
Houston to Newport, Kentucky, and I didn't want to haul it around.

 

The miter saw is much more accurate, since the radial arm saw has so many
places to loose accuracy from the table up to the rolling motor mount.

 

If close accuracy isn't a problem. The radial arm saw is very versatile.  I
especially like the fact that you can rip long boards on it.  I also used as
a drill press on occasion by placing a drill chuck on it.  I also used it to
mount 

Wire brush wheels and polishing wheels.

 

As I said, I love both saws, for different reasons.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Regards, Tom

 

 

 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of john schwery
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:55 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

 

  

So, what are the advantages of a miter saw over a radial arm saw?

earlier, Dale Alton, wrote:


I gont my 10 sliding from a pond shop and only paid about $100 for it. It
is a Dellta Side kick.

_

From: 
mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com  
[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ]
On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:54 PM
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

A good bit heavier, and because of the rails to slide on, they do take up a
bit more room.

I had a Dewalt I think it was a 705. A 12 inch stationary compound miter.
Had because one of my houses was broken into while being remodeled and I
had
stuck the saw in a closet. Someone got a beauty.

The stationary compound weighed about 45 pounds and I could carry it in one
hand.

I now own a Dewalt 708, and it's massive compared to the 718 model that's
out now. The rails that mine slide on are about an inch and a half in
diameter, and just guessing but I'd bet it's double the weight of my first
saw.

The 718 has a little wider cut than mine but I picked mine up as a payment
for some back rent. So I couldn't beat the price... they don't make it now,
and the 718 is the bells and whistles model.

If you're thinking of getting one, check out several different brands and
do
some checking online. I've seen a bunch of them from Ryobi to Festool. And
the prices go up steadily until you go to Festool and then the curve
becomes
a wall... $1300 at last check.

Also try to get a hold of a radial arm saw and see which one you like
better. The knock on the radial arm is that you can pull the blade over
your
hand. You can do that with a slider too if you don't pay attention.

They both seem to take up about as much bench top but in reality, a radial
arm is more versatile. You can raise the blade much like a table saw, just
in reverse order. you can put a stack of dado blades and cut very accurate
dados as wide as the arm can go. You can't do that with a slider.

I know this will open the old discussion again about which is better. I'll
just say the best saw is the one you like most. Play with a few different
brands and you'll develop a favorite.
- Original Message -
From: Alan  Terrie Robbins
To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:43 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

Bob,

Are the sliding compound units considerably larger in size and heavier in
weight?

Al
-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com
[mailto:blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:30 PM
To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

A standard miter can cut the width of the blade or part of that width as
some goes beyond the fence.

A sliding compound can get close to 16 inches in some cases. I have a 12
inch model and I'm between 15 and 16 inches in cross cut width.
- Original Message -
From: Alan  Terrie Robbins
To: Blindhandyman
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:26 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

My understanding is there are a couple of different type
power miter saws? I am borrowing my son-in-law's standard 10
inch one and love it. He tells me there is a type with a
sliding arm as well to accomplish the ability to cut a wider
board. Any idea how much wider?

Al

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

2009-11-11 Thread Terry Klarich
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:46:37 -0500you write:

I have had both saws and I only have a 12 inch Deewalt miter saw now.  I
miss the radial arm saw very much.  I sold it because I was moving from
Houston to Newport, Kentucky, and I didn't want to haul it around.

 

The miter saw is much more accurate, since the radial arm saw has so many
places to loose accuracy from the table up to the rolling motor mount.



I have both a Delta 33-890 radial arm saw and a bosch 10 sliding compound 
miter saw.  I would say the miter saw is good enough for
most folks.

However, for my needs, I would give up my bosch miter saw before I'd let go of 
my Delta radial arm saw.  The radial arm saw does
everything the miter saw will do and more.

When makeing multiple repitive cuts, there is no need to turn off the saw.
I can make dados, rabits, half lap joints with a dado blade.
The saw swings any direction 360 degrees.
The blade will tilt both left and right for those compound cuts.
The saw is much quieter.
The motor is much more powerful.
I can measure a cut easier and much more accurately because the saw can be 
pulled forward to the point where the measurement needs
to take place.

What I don't like about radial arm saws:
Their setup is more involved then a miter saw.
They are very dangerous.
They take up a lot of room

I think radial arm saws got a bad wrap because of the later saws produced by 
some of the manufactures who were trying to produce a
saw that would compete with the miter saws.  The later craftsman saws (ridgid) 
were very sloppy because of the lighter arm.

I think the only new radial arm saw you can buy is one by Delta and General 
International.  I'd stay away from everything else due
to the lighter construction.

My Delta is every bit as accurate as my miter saw.  Although, it took me about 
4 or 5 hours to get it tuned up.

hth
Terry


Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

2009-11-11 Thread chiliblindman
John, a radial arm saw will not do as many angle functions.  It will take a 
bigger cross-cut than a miter saw.  A radial arm saw is accurate on cutoffs and 
ripping lengthwise and can be set up very fast for those and also doing dado 
work.
 The miter saw will cut bevel angle cuts and can be set up in seconds to do 
that kind of cut, and they are accurate.  My sears will do a bevel compound cut 
at up to 60 degrees angle on a 2x12 and easily cut 6x6's.
 My radial is used in my shop where as my sliding compound miter saw 
travels on a stand with wheels and pullout extensions to hold lumber.  With the 
hand holds I can carry it or roll it, much sooner rolling.
bob

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

2009-11-11 Thread Alan Terrie Robbins
If memory serves me correctly, I remember years ago when I could see a
friend had a radial arm saw. They are quite large and have a rather large
table, correct? Or, have they made them more compact.

Al
  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Tom Hodges
  Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:47 AM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw



  I have had both saws and I only have a 12 inch Deewalt miter saw now. I
  miss the radial arm saw very much. I sold it because I was moving from
  Houston to Newport, Kentucky, and I didn't want to haul it around.

  The miter saw is much more accurate, since the radial arm saw has so many
  places to loose accuracy from the table up to the rolling motor mount.

  If close accuracy isn't a problem. The radial arm saw is very versatile. I
  especially like the fact that you can rip long boards on it. I also used
as
  a drill press on occasion by placing a drill chuck on it. I also used it
to
  mount

  Wire brush wheels and polishing wheels.

  As I said, I love both saws, for different reasons.

  Hope this helps.

  Regards, Tom

  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
  On Behalf Of john schwery
  Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:55 AM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

  So, what are the advantages of a miter saw over a radial arm saw?

  earlier, Dale Alton, wrote:
  
  
  I gont my 10 sliding from a pond shop and only paid about $100 for it.
It
  is a Dellta Side kick.
  
  _
  
  From:
  mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ]
  On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:54 PM
  To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw
  
  A good bit heavier, and because of the rails to slide on, they do take up
a
  bit more room.
  
  I had a Dewalt I think it was a 705. A 12 inch stationary compound miter.
  Had because one of my houses was broken into while being remodeled and I
  had
  stuck the saw in a closet. Someone got a beauty.
  
  The stationary compound weighed about 45 pounds and I could carry it in
one
  hand.
  
  I now own a Dewalt 708, and it's massive compared to the 718 model that's
  out now. The rails that mine slide on are about an inch and a half in
  diameter, and just guessing but I'd bet it's double the weight of my
first
  saw.
  
  The 718 has a little wider cut than mine but I picked mine up as a
payment
  for some back rent. So I couldn't beat the price... they don't make it
now,
  and the 718 is the bells and whistles model.
  
  If you're thinking of getting one, check out several different brands and
  do
  some checking online. I've seen a bunch of them from Ryobi to Festool.
And
  the prices go up steadily until you go to Festool and then the curve
  becomes
  a wall... $1300 at last check.
  
  Also try to get a hold of a radial arm saw and see which one you like
  better. The knock on the radial arm is that you can pull the blade over
  your
  hand. You can do that with a slider too if you don't pay attention.
  
  They both seem to take up about as much bench top but in reality, a
radial
  arm is more versatile. You can raise the blade much like a table saw,
just
  in reverse order. you can put a stack of dado blades and cut very
accurate
  dados as wide as the arm can go. You can't do that with a slider.
  
  I know this will open the old discussion again about which is better.
I'll
  just say the best saw is the one you like most. Play with a few different
  brands and you'll develop a favorite.
  - Original Message -
  From: Alan  Terrie Robbins
  To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:43 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw
  
  Bob,
  
  Are the sliding compound units considerably larger in size and heavier in
  weight?
  
  Al
  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
  yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
  yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:30 PM
  To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw
  
  A standard miter can cut the width of the blade or part of that width as
  some goes beyond the fence.
  
  A sliding compound can get close to 16 inches in some cases. I have a 12
  inch model and I'm between 15 and 16 inches in cross cut width.
  - Original Message -
  From: Alan  Terrie Robbins
  To: Blindhandyman
  Sent: Monday

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

2009-11-11 Thread john schwery
Bob, interesting, getting one with a stand.  I didn't think of that.

earlier, chiliblindman, wrote:


John, a radial arm saw will not do as many angle 
functions. It will take a bigger cross-cut than 
a miter saw. A radial arm saw is accurate on 
cutoffs and ripping lengthwise and can be set up 
very fast for those and also doing dado work.
The miter saw will cut bevel angle cuts and can 
be set up in seconds to do that kind of cut, and 
they are accurate. My sears will do a bevel 
compound cut at up to 60 degrees angle on a 2x12 and easily cut 6x6's.
My radial is used in my shop where as my sliding 
compound miter saw travels on a stand with 
wheels and pullout extensions to hold lumber. 
With the hand holds I can carry it or roll it, much sooner rolling.
bob

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

2009-11-11 Thread Jim King


-Original Message-
From: john schwery jschw...@embarqmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:54 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

So, what are the advantages of a miter saw over a radial arm saw?

earlier, Dale Alton, wrote:


I gont my 10 sliding from a pond shop and only paid about $100 for it. It
is a Dellta Side kick.

_

From: 
mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:54 PM
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

A good bit heavier, and because of the rails to slide on, they do take up a
bit more room.




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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

2009-11-11 Thread chiliblindman
Al, some radial arm saws can have a 4 foot draw for cutting a full 4 foot by 8 
foot sheet of plywood.  Average used to be around 18 to 20 inches with a better 
than 2 foot deep table top.
..bob

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

2009-11-11 Thread Dale Leavens
You are correct, they are large. Not so much when you bring one home from the 
store, then they are tall and heavy but you will immediately want to add a 
fairly long table and it will need to be well supported on the ends so as not 
to tip it over.

Most, maybe all are 220 volt tools as well and big and heavy. They were once 
quite popular, about 40 years ago but I don't often see them any more, most 
prefer a table saw for versatility and accuracy. The one place they excel is at 
cross cutting but sliding miter saws do that more accurately, a lot cheaper and 
in a much smaller shop foot print.

Having said all that, there is always personal taste and of course special task 
stations like in production shops where the radial arm saw may be the best 
solution.




  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan  Terrie Robbins 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 12:14 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw



  If memory serves me correctly, I remember years ago when I could see a
  friend had a radial arm saw. They are quite large and have a rather large
  table, correct? Or, have they made them more compact.

  Al
  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Tom Hodges
  Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:47 AM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

  I have had both saws and I only have a 12 inch Deewalt miter saw now. I
  miss the radial arm saw very much. I sold it because I was moving from
  Houston to Newport, Kentucky, and I didn't want to haul it around.

  The miter saw is much more accurate, since the radial arm saw has so many
  places to loose accuracy from the table up to the rolling motor mount.

  If close accuracy isn't a problem. The radial arm saw is very versatile. I
  especially like the fact that you can rip long boards on it. I also used
  as
  a drill press on occasion by placing a drill chuck on it. I also used it
  to
  mount

  Wire brush wheels and polishing wheels.

  As I said, I love both saws, for different reasons.

  Hope this helps.

  Regards, Tom

  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
  On Behalf Of john schwery
  Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:55 AM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

  So, what are the advantages of a miter saw over a radial arm saw?

  earlier, Dale Alton, wrote:
  
  
  I gont my 10 sliding from a pond shop and only paid about $100 for it.
  It
  is a Dellta Side kick.
  
  _
  
  From:
  mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com ]
  On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:54 PM
  To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw
  
  A good bit heavier, and because of the rails to slide on, they do take up
  a
  bit more room.
  
  I had a Dewalt I think it was a 705. A 12 inch stationary compound miter.
  Had because one of my houses was broken into while being remodeled and I
  had
  stuck the saw in a closet. Someone got a beauty.
  
  The stationary compound weighed about 45 pounds and I could carry it in
  one
  hand.
  
  I now own a Dewalt 708, and it's massive compared to the 718 model that's
  out now. The rails that mine slide on are about an inch and a half in
  diameter, and just guessing but I'd bet it's double the weight of my
  first
  saw.
  
  The 718 has a little wider cut than mine but I picked mine up as a
  payment
  for some back rent. So I couldn't beat the price... they don't make it
  now,
  and the 718 is the bells and whistles model.
  
  If you're thinking of getting one, check out several different brands and
  do
  some checking online. I've seen a bunch of them from Ryobi to Festool.
  And
  the prices go up steadily until you go to Festool and then the curve
  becomes
  a wall... $1300 at last check.
  
  Also try to get a hold of a radial arm saw and see which one you like
  better. The knock on the radial arm is that you can pull the blade over
  your
  hand. You can do that with a slider too if you don't pay attention.
  
  They both seem to take up about as much bench top but in reality, a
  radial
  arm is more versatile. You can raise the blade much like a table saw,
  just
  in reverse order. you can put a stack of dado blades and cut very
  accurate
  dados as wide as the arm can go. You can't do that with a slider.
  
  I know this will open the old discussion again about which is better.
  I'll
  just say the best saw is the one you like most. Play with a few different
  brands and you'll develop a favorite.
  - Original Message -
  From: Alan  Terrie Robbins

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

2009-11-11 Thread Dale Leavens
Safety, size, cost ease of set-up and accuracy, particularly for cross cutting.
  - Original Message - 
  From: john schwery 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:54 AM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw



  So, what are the advantages of a miter saw over a radial arm saw?

  earlier, Dale Alton, wrote:
  
  
  I gont my 10 sliding from a pond shop and only paid about $100 for it. It
  is a Dellta Side kick.
  
  _
  
  From: 
  mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:54 PM
  To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw
  
  A good bit heavier, and because of the rails to slide on, they do take up a
  bit more room.
  
  I had a Dewalt I think it was a 705. A 12 inch stationary compound miter.
  Had because one of my houses was broken into while being remodeled and I had
  stuck the saw in a closet. Someone got a beauty.
  
  The stationary compound weighed about 45 pounds and I could carry it in one
  hand.
  
  I now own a Dewalt 708, and it's massive compared to the 718 model that's
  out now. The rails that mine slide on are about an inch and a half in
  diameter, and just guessing but I'd bet it's double the weight of my first
  saw.
  
  The 718 has a little wider cut than mine but I picked mine up as a payment
  for some back rent. So I couldn't beat the price... they don't make it now,
  and the 718 is the bells and whistles model.
  
  If you're thinking of getting one, check out several different brands and do
  some checking online. I've seen a bunch of them from Ryobi to Festool. And
  the prices go up steadily until you go to Festool and then the curve becomes
  a wall... $1300 at last check.
  
  Also try to get a hold of a radial arm saw and see which one you like
  better. The knock on the radial arm is that you can pull the blade over your
  hand. You can do that with a slider too if you don't pay attention.
  
  They both seem to take up about as much bench top but in reality, a radial
  arm is more versatile. You can raise the blade much like a table saw, just
  in reverse order. you can put a stack of dado blades and cut very accurate
  dados as wide as the arm can go. You can't do that with a slider.
  
  I know this will open the old discussion again about which is better. I'll
  just say the best saw is the one you like most. Play with a few different
  brands and you'll develop a favorite.
  - Original Message -
  From: Alan  Terrie Robbins
  To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:43 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw
  
  Bob,
  
  Are the sliding compound units considerably larger in size and heavier in
  weight?
  
  Al
  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
  yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
  yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:30 PM
  To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw
  
  A standard miter can cut the width of the blade or part of that width as
  some goes beyond the fence.
  
  A sliding compound can get close to 16 inches in some cases. I have a 12
  inch model and I'm between 15 and 16 inches in cross cut width.
  - Original Message -
  From: Alan  Terrie Robbins
  To: Blindhandyman
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:26 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw
  
  My understanding is there are a couple of different type
  power miter saws? I am borrowing my son-in-law's standard 10
  inch one and love it. He tells me there is a type with a
  sliding arm as well to accomplish the ability to cut a wider
  board. Any idea how much wider?
  
  Al
  
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

2009-11-10 Thread Matt
Think my compound miter slides up to a foot.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan  Terrie Robbins 
  To: Blindhandyman 
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 6:26 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw



  My understanding is there are a couple of different type
  power miter saws? I am borrowing my son-in-law's standard 10
  inch one and love it. He tells me there is a type with a
  sliding arm as well to accomplish the ability to cut a wider
  board. Any idea how much wider?

  Al



  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

2009-11-10 Thread Lenny McHugh
Al, Congrats on retirement. What I have learned is for almost every new 
project that Karen asked me to do requires a new tool to do it correctly. 
There was Most(Most with a capital M) always an agreement by her. Now if I 
mention that I might like one she says go get it. It took about ten years 
for that turn around.

- Original Message - 
From: Dan Rossi d...@andrew.cmu.edu
To: Blindhandyman blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw


Al, Al, Al,

I knew it.  You retire.  Then you ask about a set of battery operated
tools, like a circ saw and drill.  Now you are asking about compound miter
saws.  It's all over for you man.

Next, you will be coming up with projects to do that require you to
purchase new tools.  Have Terry call Teresa so they can commiserate on tool
crazy husbands.


-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel: (412) 268-9081




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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

2009-11-10 Thread Carl
hav you had a play with a compound  mighter saw?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob Kennedy 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:54 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw



  A good bit heavier, and because of the rails to slide on, they do take up a 
bit more room. 

  I had a Dewalt I think it was a 705. A 12 inch stationary compound miter. Had 
because one of my houses was broken into while being remodeled and I had stuck 
the saw in a closet. Someone got a beauty. 

  The stationary compound weighed about 45 pounds and I could carry it in one 
hand. 

  I now own a Dewalt 708, and it's massive compared to the 718 model that's out 
now. The rails that mine slide on are about an inch and a half in diameter, and 
just guessing but I'd bet it's double the weight of my first saw. 

  The 718 has a little wider cut than mine but I picked mine up as a payment 
for some back rent. So I couldn't beat the price... they don't make it now, and 
the 718 is the bells and whistles model. 

  If you're thinking of getting one, check out several different brands and do 
some checking online. I've seen a bunch of them from Ryobi to Festool. And the 
prices go up steadily until you go to Festool and then the curve becomes a 
wall... $1300 at last check. 

  Also try to get a hold of a radial arm saw and see which one you like better. 
The knock on the radial arm is that you can pull the blade over your hand. You 
can do that with a slider too if you don't pay attention. 

  They both seem to take up about as much bench top but in reality, a radial 
arm is more versatile. You can raise the blade much like a table saw, just in 
reverse order. you can put a stack of dado blades and cut very accurate dados 
as wide as the arm can go. You can't do that with a slider. 

  I know this will open the old discussion again about which is better. I'll 
just say the best saw is the one you like most. Play with a few different 
brands and you'll develop a favorite. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan  Terrie Robbins 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:43 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

  Bob,

  Are the sliding compound units considerably larger in size and heavier in
  weight?

  Al
  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:30 PM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

  A standard miter can cut the width of the blade or part of that width as
  some goes beyond the fence.

  A sliding compound can get close to 16 inches in some cases. I have a 12
  inch model and I'm between 15 and 16 inches in cross cut width.
  - Original Message -
  From: Alan  Terrie Robbins
  To: Blindhandyman
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:26 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

  My understanding is there are a couple of different type
  power miter saws? I am borrowing my son-in-law's standard 10
  inch one and love it. He tells me there is a type with a
  sliding arm as well to accomplish the ability to cut a wider
  board. Any idea how much wider?

  Al

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

2009-11-10 Thread Dale Alton
I gont my 10 sliding from a pond shop and only paid about $100 for it.  It
is a Dellta Side kick.

  _  

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:54 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw


  

A good bit heavier, and because of the rails to slide on, they do take up a
bit more room. 

I had a Dewalt I think it was a 705. A 12 inch stationary compound miter.
Had because one of my houses was broken into while being remodeled and I had
stuck the saw in a closet. Someone got a beauty. 

The stationary compound weighed about 45 pounds and I could carry it in one
hand. 

I now own a Dewalt 708, and it's massive compared to the 718 model that's
out now. The rails that mine slide on are about an inch and a half in
diameter, and just guessing but I'd bet it's double the weight of my first
saw. 

The 718 has a little wider cut than mine but I picked mine up as a payment
for some back rent. So I couldn't beat the price... they don't make it now,
and the 718 is the bells and whistles model. 

If you're thinking of getting one, check out several different brands and do
some checking online. I've seen a bunch of them from Ryobi to Festool. And
the prices go up steadily until you go to Festool and then the curve becomes
a wall... $1300 at last check. 

Also try to get a hold of a radial arm saw and see which one you like
better. The knock on the radial arm is that you can pull the blade over your
hand. You can do that with a slider too if you don't pay attention. 

They both seem to take up about as much bench top but in reality, a radial
arm is more versatile. You can raise the blade much like a table saw, just
in reverse order. you can put a stack of dado blades and cut very accurate
dados as wide as the arm can go. You can't do that with a slider. 

I know this will open the old discussion again about which is better. I'll
just say the best saw is the one you like most. Play with a few different
brands and you'll develop a favorite. 
- Original Message - 
From: Alan  Terrie Robbins 
To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:43 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

Bob,

Are the sliding compound units considerably larger in size and heavier in
weight?

Al
-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com
[mailto:blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:30 PM
To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

A standard miter can cut the width of the blade or part of that width as
some goes beyond the fence.

A sliding compound can get close to 16 inches in some cases. I have a 12
inch model and I'm between 15 and 16 inches in cross cut width.
- Original Message -
From: Alan  Terrie Robbins
To: Blindhandyman
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:26 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

My understanding is there are a couple of different type
power miter saws? I am borrowing my son-in-law's standard 10
inch one and love it. He tells me there is a type with a
sliding arm as well to accomplish the ability to cut a wider
board. Any idea how much wider?

Al

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

2009-11-09 Thread Bob Kennedy
A standard miter can cut the width of the blade or part of that width as some 
goes beyond the fence.  

A sliding compound can get close to 16 inches in some cases.  I have a 12 inch 
model and I'm between 15 and 16 inches in cross cut width.  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan  Terrie Robbins 
  To: Blindhandyman 
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:26 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw



  My understanding is there are a couple of different type
  power miter saws? I am borrowing my son-in-law's standard 10
  inch one and love it. He tells me there is a type with a
  sliding arm as well to accomplish the ability to cut a wider
  board. Any idea how much wider?

  Al



  

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

2009-11-09 Thread Alan Terrie Robbins
Bob,

Are the sliding compound units considerably larger in size and heavier in
weight?

Al
  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:30 PM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw



  A standard miter can cut the width of the blade or part of that width as
some goes beyond the fence.

  A sliding compound can get close to 16 inches in some cases. I have a 12
inch model and I'm between 15 and 16 inches in cross cut width.
  - Original Message -
  From: Alan  Terrie Robbins
  To: Blindhandyman
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:26 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

  My understanding is there are a couple of different type
  power miter saws? I am borrowing my son-in-law's standard 10
  inch one and love it. He tells me there is a type with a
  sliding arm as well to accomplish the ability to cut a wider
  board. Any idea how much wider?

  Al

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

2009-11-09 Thread Dale Leavens
Most 10 inch models will cut 12 inch width at 90 degrees, 8 inches at 45.

12 inch models don't generally give much more but do give a bit more depth. My 
old 10 inch will cut through a 4 by 12, I have never had such a piece of timber 
but I have cut through 3 2 by 10s in a single pass several times.

Sliding saws do cost quite a bit more though.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan  Terrie Robbins 
  To: Blindhandyman 
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:26 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw



  My understanding is there are a couple of different type
  power miter saws? I am borrowing my son-in-law's standard 10
  inch one and love it. He tells me there is a type with a
  sliding arm as well to accomplish the ability to cut a wider
  board. Any idea how much wider?

  Al



  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

2009-11-09 Thread Bob Kennedy
A good bit heavier, and because of the rails to slide on, they do take up a bit 
more room.  

I had a Dewalt I think it was a 705.  A 12 inch stationary compound miter.  Had 
because one of my houses was broken into while being remodeled and I had stuck 
the saw in a closet.  Someone got a beauty.  

The stationary compound weighed about 45 pounds and I could carry it in one 
hand.  

I now own a Dewalt 708, and it's massive compared to the 718 model that's out 
now.  The rails that mine slide on are about an inch and a half in diameter, 
and just guessing but I'd bet it's double the weight of my first saw.  

The 718 has a little wider cut than mine but I picked mine up as a payment for 
some back rent.  So I couldn't beat the price...  they don't make it now, and 
the 718 is the bells and whistles model.  

If you're thinking of getting one, check out several different brands and do 
some checking online.  I've seen a bunch of them from Ryobi to Festool.  And 
the prices go up steadily until you go to Festool and then the curve becomes a 
wall...  $1300 at last check.  

Also try to get a hold of a radial arm saw and see which one you like better.  
The knock on the radial arm is that you can pull the blade over your hand.  You 
can do that with a slider too if you don't pay attention.  

They both seem to take up about as much bench top but in reality, a radial arm 
is more versatile.  You can raise the blade much like a table saw, just in 
reverse order.  you can put a stack of dado blades and cut very accurate dados 
as wide as the arm can go.  You can't do that with a slider.  

I know this will open the old discussion again about which is better.  I'll 
just say the best saw is the one you like most.  Play with a few different 
brands and you'll develop a favorite.  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan  Terrie Robbins 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:43 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw



  Bob,

  Are the sliding compound units considerably larger in size and heavier in
  weight?

  Al
  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:30 PM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

  A standard miter can cut the width of the blade or part of that width as
  some goes beyond the fence.

  A sliding compound can get close to 16 inches in some cases. I have a 12
  inch model and I'm between 15 and 16 inches in cross cut width.
  - Original Message -
  From: Alan  Terrie Robbins
  To: Blindhandyman
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:26 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

  My understanding is there are a couple of different type
  power miter saws? I am borrowing my son-in-law's standard 10
  inch one and love it. He tells me there is a type with a
  sliding arm as well to accomplish the ability to cut a wider
  board. Any idea how much wider?

  Al

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

2009-11-09 Thread Bob Kennedy
Yours is a slider isn't it? 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dale Leavens 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 8:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw



  Most 10 inch models will cut 12 inch width at 90 degrees, 8 inches at 45.

  12 inch models don't generally give much more but do give a bit more depth. 
My old 10 inch will cut through a 4 by 12, I have never had such a piece of 
timber but I have cut through 3 2 by 10s in a single pass several times.

  Sliding saws do cost quite a bit more though.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan  Terrie Robbins 
  To: Blindhandyman 
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:26 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

  My understanding is there are a couple of different type
  power miter saws? I am borrowing my son-in-law's standard 10
  inch one and love it. He tells me there is a type with a
  sliding arm as well to accomplish the ability to cut a wider
  board. Any idea how much wider?

  Al

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

2009-11-09 Thread Dale Leavens
Yes, a Makita about 18 years old now. I would take a12 inch as a gift but the 
only time I ever really needed the extra length was while cutting some vertical 
siding on an angle for my gable ends, I finished the cuts by hand. I have often 
cut wider pieces of plywood by flipping them over and lining the blade with the 
cut. Just the extra cost of a 12 inch model hardly seems worth while except 
maybe in a production shop. A fixed saw though is really quite limiting if you 
do any construction.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob Kennedy 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 9:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw



  Yours is a slider isn't it? 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dale Leavens 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 8:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

  Most 10 inch models will cut 12 inch width at 90 degrees, 8 inches at 45.

  12 inch models don't generally give much more but do give a bit more depth. 
My old 10 inch will cut through a 4 by 12, I have never had such a piece of 
timber but I have cut through 3 2 by 10s in a single pass several times.

  Sliding saws do cost quite a bit more though.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan  Terrie Robbins 
  To: Blindhandyman 
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 7:26 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

  My understanding is there are a couple of different type
  power miter saws? I am borrowing my son-in-law's standard 10
  inch one and love it. He tells me there is a type with a
  sliding arm as well to accomplish the ability to cut a wider
  board. Any idea how much wider?

  Al

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

2009-11-09 Thread chiliblindman
Al, my sears will knock off a 1 x 12 on any angle you want.  it must cut at 
least 14 to 16 inches.
..bob

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Power Miter Saw

2009-11-09 Thread Dan Rossi
Al, Al, Al,

I knew it.  You retire.  Then you ask about a set of battery operated 
tools, like a circ saw and drill.  Now you are asking about compound miter 
saws.  It's all over for you man.

Next, you will be coming up with projects to do that require you to 
purchase new tools.  Have Terry call Teresa so they can commiserate on tool 
crazy husbands.


-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel:(412) 268-9081