Re: linux-mint findings

2016-09-16 Thread Jude DaShiell
I have linux-mint almost working accessibly.  What's missing is orca 
talking during a login.  Is there anything I can do with gsettings to 
make this happen?
With linux-mint hitting the super key brings up the apps and puts you in 
a text box for searching.  hit tab then right arrow and you end up in 
the list of apps on the system and use up and down arrows to select the 
app and enter to run the app.
The accessibility section of linux-mint is messed up since it doesn't 
know orca screen reader has already been installed and asks users to 
install orca screen reader but that's all it does.


On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, Paul Merrell wrote:


Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 22:42:19
From: Paul Merrell 
Reply-To: Linux for blind general discussion 
To: Linux for blind general discussion 
Subject: Re: linux-mint findings

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 7:17 AM, Jude DaShiell  wrote:

I got some sighted assistance and here's what I found out so far.



If you try turning orca with alt-f2 orca, the welcome screen comes up and
turns the screen reader off for you, so turn it back on again.


At least with the Mate desktop, the Mint welcome screen has a checkbox
in the lower right corner to turn off the display of that screen on
startup. It can still be accessed through Main Menu > Control Center.

Best regards,

Paul




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Re: VirtualBox

2016-09-16 Thread Janina Sajka
Hmmm, this is info I will certainly investigate. Thanks for pointing
this out.

Luke Yelavich writes:
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 12:14:01AM AEST, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > Hi, Luke:
> > 
> > Just to clarify, this approach would support other distributions of
> > Linux but not totaly foreign OS like Windows 10. Is that correct?
> 
> No, that is not correct. Windows can indeed be run in a KVM based virtual 
> machine. You can even see how well various versions of Windows work here. 
> http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Guest_Support_Status. You can find various 
> Windows drivers for KVM guests here. 
> http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/WindowsGuestDrivers.
> 
> Luke
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Speakup and backups

2016-09-16 Thread Fernando Botelho

Hi everyone,

I must be getting old, because I have become backup-obssessed.

In addition to a backup of my home folder, I would like to use the ARCH 
pacman off-line alternate process, where one keeps a list of packages 
and the actual packages on disk, just in case Internet access is not 
available or is too slow.


In that context, do Kernel changes like Speakup appear in the list of 
installed packages?  I imagine not, is this correct?


Also, what is the best source of instructions on how to install Speakup?

Thanks,

Fernando

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Re: Speakup and backups

2016-09-16 Thread Zahari Yurukov
Hi,
I don't know about your other questions, but about the speakup installation:
I wrote a small script a while ago  to assist me in speakup installation for 
the current kernel under Fedora.
It uses a generic kernel for the compilation, compiles only speakup and copies 
it into the current kernel's module directory.
https://github.com/zahyur/speakup-installer

It has also a 'prepare' option - for installing dependancies.
I've tried to adapt it for apt-get, dnf and pacman based distributions, but 
actually tested it only under Fedora.

I posted it to the speakup mailing list, but no one responded so far.
I'll be glad to hear your opinion.

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Best wishes,
Zahari

  Fernando Botelho wrote:
Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 01:27:05PM -0300

> Hi everyone,
> 
> I must be getting old, because I have become backup-obssessed.
> 
> In addition to a backup of my home folder, I would like to use the ARCH
> pacman off-line alternate process, where one keeps a list of packages and
> the actual packages on disk, just in case Internet access is not available
> or is too slow.
> 
> In that context, do Kernel changes like Speakup appear in the list of
> installed packages?  I imagine not, is this correct?
> 
> Also, what is the best source of instructions on how to install Speakup?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Fernando
> 
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Enabling Console Speech Inside Vinux?

2016-09-16 Thread Hart Larry
Well, I tried posting a similar inquiree in the Speakup list, but it never went 
through.

Also, I tried joining the Vinux list, but they require you to sign in to google.
So here are comments-and-questions?
#1 It would be much simpler if they also were to provide a windows executable, 
as dealing with an iso is not always convenient.
#2 I was pleasantly surprised that installing Vinux along side windows vista 
did not nuke a JAWS10 authorization.
#3 The Vinux WIKI hardly mentions screen-readers-and-how to enable them. I did 
purchase Voxen, as I would never wanna hear e-speak for anything.
#4 Ideally, can some1 please inform what to edit so it will boot in console with 
either Speakup or YASR? I don't mind having access to a graphical, but I would 
rather boot in a TCSH shell.
I can certainly use Notepad in windows to edit any configs, unless, a duel boot 
won't see the windows side of the house?
#5 And yes I would want great sounding speech in both console-and-graphical on a 
64bit image on a laptop.

Thanks so much in advance for guidance
Hart

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Joining the Vinux list [was {Re: Enabling Console Speech Inside Vinux?"]

2016-09-16 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I'm not sure why you think you need to sign into Google to join the 
Vinux mailing list. Try emailing vinux-support+subscr...@googlegroups.com


On 16/09/16 22:21, Hart Larry wrote:

Well, I tried posting a similar inquiree in the Speakup list, but it
never went through.
Also, I tried joining the Vinux list, but they require you to sign in to
google.
So here are comments-and-questions?
#1 It would be much simpler if they also were to provide a windows
executable, as dealing with an iso is not always convenient.
#2 I was pleasantly surprised that installing Vinux along side windows
vista did not nuke a JAWS10 authorization.
#3 The Vinux WIKI hardly mentions screen-readers-and-how to enable them.
I did purchase Voxen, as I would never wanna hear e-speak for anything.
#4 Ideally, can some1 please inform what to edit so it will boot in
console with either Speakup or YASR? I don't mind having access to a
graphical, but I would rather boot in a TCSH shell.
I can certainly use Notepad in windows to edit any configs, unless, a
duel boot won't see the windows side of the house?
#5 And yes I would want great sounding speech in both
console-and-graphical on a 64bit image on a laptop.
Thanks so much in advance for guidance
Hart

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Re: Enabling Console Speech Inside Vinux?

2016-09-16 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Sorry, I didn't see the rest of your questions. I asume you're talking 
about Vinux.


I don't run Windows myself, but I'm pretty sure the wiki points people 
to some various options to build a bootable USB stick under Windows.


Vinux comes up with Orca enabled, and I'm not sure what other screen 
reader options exist for Linux, so I'm not sure why Vinux would have to 
provide information on the wiki on how to enable Orca.


You can purchase Voxin through the Vinux pages, but I use eSpeak myself.

On 16/09/16 22:21, Hart Larry wrote:

Well, I tried posting a similar inquiree in the Speakup list, but it
never went through.
Also, I tried joining the Vinux list, but they require you to sign in to
google.
So here are comments-and-questions?
#1 It would be much simpler if they also were to provide a windows
executable, as dealing with an iso is not always convenient.
#2 I was pleasantly surprised that installing Vinux along side windows
vista did not nuke a JAWS10 authorization.
#3 The Vinux WIKI hardly mentions screen-readers-and-how to enable them.
I did purchase Voxen, as I would never wanna hear e-speak for anything.
#4 Ideally, can some1 please inform what to edit so it will boot in
console with either Speakup or YASR? I don't mind having access to a
graphical, but I would rather boot in a TCSH shell.
I can certainly use Notepad in windows to edit any configs, unless, a
duel boot won't see the windows side of the house?
#5 And yes I would want great sounding speech in both
console-and-graphical on a 64bit image on a laptop.
Thanks so much in advance for guidance
Hart

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