Fwd: looking for Clinton Thomas and Q. Cruz
Attila, I recognize some of the names from your list, but I don't know anything more than their email addresses from the time when I was active on some of the Asimov lists. I am forwarding your email to two groups that might have a better idea. Begin forwarded message: From: Torkos Attila [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: February 10, 2008 4:01:14 PM CST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ... [SNIPPED] Subject: looking for Clinton Thomas and Q. Cruz Dear Friends, Please forgive me for disturbing you. My name is Attila Torkos. I am also a fan of the late Asimov. I am the one who compiled a detailed timeline to his Robot-Empire-Foundation Universe which was published in David Brin's Foundation's Triumph and Mark Tiedemann's Aurora. I am writing to you because I know you are the most respected Asimov scholars available on the web. I am desperately trying to contact two persons, both of whom have written Asimovian fanfiction. One is Q. Cruz, the person who began writing Foundation's End. About 2 months ago I was actually able to write to him using the email address presented on the Beyond Asimov page ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and he wrote back, offering to send me a 200-page-long working copy of his novella and asking for my mail address. He never got my reply with my address, though, as my email (and my later tries, too) came back as undeliverable. Hotmail says his account ceased. I am unable to reach him. Since then I tried to track him, but I don't even know his full name so I ran into a dead end. The other person is Clinton Thomas from Manchester, England. I found his message in an Asimov discussion group (groups.yahoo.com/group/ galactica) while I was trying to track down Q. Cruz. In his message to the discussion group Clinton Thomas wrote that he nearly finished writing a 1000-pages-long (!) fan novel entitled The Solarian. Of course, his email presented on the discussion group is also out of date. I know from my correspondence with Robyn Joan (daughter of Asimov) and the Asimov Estate that there will be no further Foundation sequels written, so all we fans have for a conclusion of the Robot-Empire-Foundation saga is the works of fans. This is why I am so desperate to find the mentioned two guys. I would like to ask you if anyone knows Q. Cruz's or Clinton Thomas's new email address, ordinary mail address, telephone number, messenger ID or any other contact information. Or does anyone have the fan writings of these two people? Please please someone help me. If you do not know the answer to any of my questions, you might still help me by telling me the actual, working contact info of some other Asimov fans who participated either in the discussion list or in publishing Asimovian fanfiction: Deb Reed Alfonso Mantero Guido Nunez Harald Muecke Gary Conkle David Cross Alexander j. Vincent David Pinkston Greg Toland Wendell Urth Wei-Hwa Huang R. Jay Stan Pope Thank you so much for reading my long letter. I am looking forward to receiving your reply. Attila __ Steve Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sloan3d.com http://hsvscifiguy.livejournal.com/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: What science fiction writer are you?
On Jan 30, 2007, at 7:36 PM, Carolyn L Burke wrote: It said I was Arthur C. Clarke. AOLMe, too./AOL :-) Does that make me a Greg Benford by proxy? Maybe. __ Steve Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Digital Rights Management is evil
On Feb 4, 2007, at 1:41 PM, Charlie Bell wrote: Hmmm, I wonder if the Mac's save to pdf option in the print options will allow you to get past that. :-) It sure wouldn't surprise me. I know the Mac PDF viewer is a lot faster than the slow, bloated Adobe crap-pile on PC. __ Steve Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
WorldCon 2006 Roll Call
I'm planning to attend my first WorldCon (and first con even remotely that big) in LA at the end of this month. Is anyone else on the list going? __ Steve Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Roots of human family tree are shallow
On Jul 7, 2006, at 3:54 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: [I can't trace back to Charlemagne, AFAIK, but I know some relatives who are doing research, and they are struck in 1500 or 1600. But now I don't care for this, I want to trace me back to JESUS and claim that I must inherit the Earth and be its EVIL OVERLORD!!!] 60's Robin Holy Grail, Batman! /60's Robin __ Steve Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Br!n-L anniversary date
Steve Sloan wrote: The list is 10 years, 13 days old. Happy Anniversary! I just searched through my hard drive to find my oldest saved emails. I found a zip file containing archived digests from before I joined, including digest number #1. The first post of digest #1 was sent by Stewart Blandon on Mon, 15 Apr 1996 12:03:13 -0700 (PDT). Julia Thompson wrote: IIRC, digest mode was not set up on the first day of the list. I think the first day of the list was sometime in the 6th-10th range. I could be wrong, though. That wouldn't surprise me, because Stewart's digest #1 post was a response to an earlier email. I thought maybe it was a pre-list email thread they brought onto the list, but it makes more sense that the list was going before the digests kicked in. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Religious affiliations of superheroes
maru dubshinki wrote: Man-Faye is a bit of a running joke in anime fan-dom: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-Faye -- has the gory details. Ah man, I was afraid they meant Faye Velentine from Bebop, and I was right... Then I looked at the picture. My eyes! My eyes! __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Br!n-L anniversary date
Russell Chapman wrote: I happened to be looking for an old email in my mail folders when I came across some stuff I had saved from mid 1996 from the list. I know we went through all this 5 years ago, but I can't remember - did we ever determine when the list actually started? I'm sure there are people here who were here well before me (Julia and Steve for starters), so it must be close to a decade old. The list is 10 years, 13 days old. Happy Anniversary! I just searched through my hard drive to find my oldest saved emails. I found a zip file containing archived digests from before I joined, including digest number #1. The first post of digest #1 was sent by Stewart Blandon on Mon, 15 Apr 1996 12:03:13 -0700 (PDT). In fact, here it is... Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 12:03:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Stewart Blandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: BRIN-L@cornell.edu Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Stefan, Could you please tell me more about GURPS Uplift. I've never heard about this. I assume it's a role playing game of some kind. There seems to be a source of information on the Uplift universe. Did David Brin write this information or is it speculations by other authors? There's some discrepancy here. Startide Rising seems to state that the Milky Way is Galaxy One. I just recently reread Startide Rising and did not get the impression the Brin was locating it anywhere yet. It is in Brightness that a definitive answer is give (if I can find the page no. I forward it to you) Stewart [And here's the response:] Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 19:39:36 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: BRIN-L@cornell.edu Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 96-04-15 16:08:13 EDT, you write: Could you please tell me more about GURPS Uplift. I've never heard about this. GURPS is a role-playing system published by Steve Jackson Games (http://www.io.com/sjgames). GURPS Uplift was a worldbook that let you roleplay in the Uplift universe. It's out of print, and probably will stay that way unless I have time to update it. And people ask for it . . . I assume it's a role playing game of some kind. There seems to be a source of information on the Uplift universe. Oooh yeah. Jam-packed. And some stuff got left out! Did David Brin write this information or is it speculations by other authors? It's either derived from the books, supplied by Dave via notes, or made up by me (and some friends) and given a stamp of approval. (The Jophur/Treakie of Brightness Reef owe some to the Jophur construction kit rules in the game book, which is fine by me!) --Stefan [Julia's first post was time stamped Tue, 23 Apr 1996 08:46:07 -0500 (CDT), eight days after the first list post.] Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 08:46:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: BRIN-L@cornell.edu Subject: Re: Godel Turing problem On Tue, 23 Apr 1996, Yee Yang Li Hector wrote: Just wondering: If you're familiar with the Godel incompleteness theorem and the Turing halting problem (I've had a passing familiarity with them), could someone try to explain away the existence of sentient computers in the Galactic Center / the Startide universe / the Heart of the comet / Earth universes? If I recall correctly, Godel's theorem shows that any formal system that included arithmetic was either incomplete or inconsistent. Does that not mean that any computation system cannot be sentient because it cannot include arithmetic? Someone mentioned this in one of the newsgroups I subscribe to (can't remember which one, unfortunately) and pointed us to an essay he had put on the web: http://www.sdsc.edu/~jeff/Godel_vs_AI.html I would recommend reading this, if you're interested in the Godel/AI issue. Julia Thompson [My first presence on the list was an email I'd sent to Hector, which he forwarded to the list at Mon, 06 May 1996 15:19:48 -0400] Date: Mon, 06 May 1996 15:19:48 -0400 From: Yee Yang Li Hector [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: brin-l@cornell.edu Subject: Why Asimov chose an all-human Galaxy Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 06 May 1996 13:54:36 -0500 X-PH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cornell Modified) From: Steve Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yang Li Hector Yee) Subject: Why Asimov chose an all-human Galaxy X-URL: http://infinity.resnet.cornell.edu/brin/brin.html Actually, Isaac chose an all-human galaxy due to his editor, John W. Campbell. Campbell always believed humans would win out against aliens every time. He believed that even though aliens might have better technology, or other advantages, there was always something unusual about humans that would let our species win. Isaac felt this had something to do with some subconscious racist biases of Campbell's, and the two argued about it. Isaac wanted to avoid the whole matter by avoiding aliens. YEE YANG LI HECTOR Cornell University
Re: Hello (hello, hello)
At 09:26 PM Tuesday 3/21/2006, Steve Sloan wrote: A dance floor game I saw a couple of years ago at Con-Stellation, courtesy of Pat McAdams: Take two index cards. Write That's the way on the front of one card. Write I like it on the other. Write Uh-huh, uh-huh on the front of the second card. Write a lot of ooh ooh oohs on the back of the second card. By flipping and/or raising the right card, the vast majority of the song's lyrics can be captioned live during the song. Maybe you had to be there, Maru,,. Ronn!Blankenship wrote: And sufficiently inebriated, or at least sleep-deprived? Definitely sleep-deprived. I haven't had anything to drink at a con so far, but you never know... :-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Fwd: Southern pole star
This was interesting. I got this from one of the local Von Braun Astronomical Society mailing lists. Great information for any stories set on a far future Earth. Original Message Subject: Re: Southern pole star Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 09:44:41 +0200 From: Gent van R.H. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: History of Astronomy Discussion Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wolfgang Steinicke wrote: Does anyone know, if there was (or will be) a bright southern pole star due to precession? As the following diagram http://www.phys.uu.nl/~vgent/images/polepaths.gif , which I prepared some years ago, indicates there will be plenty of candidates in the future when the celestial south pole passes through the Carina area. In the past both alpha as beta Hydri were located near to the celestial south pole. Not shown in this diagram is the Small Magellanic Cloud which around -1000 was almost exactly on the celestial south pole. = * * * Robert H. van Gent * * E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Homepage: http://www.phys.uu.nl/~vgent/homepage.htm * * * = __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Optimism for the USA
Dave Land wrote: Heck. At least visually God resembles a human, as the Bible tell us so. It all depends on what you think the Bible means when it says that man was created in God's image. Perhaps it means that we are spiritual beings with the ability to create and make choices. This is one point where some Christians would write me off as a raving liberal. They may think so, but isn't it silly (and at least a little blasphemous) to claim that the Creator of the entire universe just happens to look like a semi-hairless upright ape, complete with a half-assed spinal column design, and other wacky internal engineering? I can see God deciding to look human when it suits some purpose, but actually looking human all the time? __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Warm today!
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: As I was coming home a little while ago I passed a business whose electronic sign said 501°F. So in other words, I live about 100 miles North of the planet Venus. ;-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Kevin Lenagh Uplift T-shirts
I got an email from Kevin Lenagh of _Contacting Aliens_ fame today. He's colorized a couple of his Uplift illustrations, and put them onto mugs and T-shirts using the CafePress.com service. You can find his store here: http://www.cafepress.com/laf_cafes __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Hello (hello, hello)
Robert Seeberger wrote: Just for a complete change of pace: Original text- I'm a soldier, znachit ya I otvyetchik i sud'ya Ya stoyu na dvukh kontsakh ognya Am I crazy, or is that the Ghost in the Shell: Stand-Alone Complex Second Gig opening theme? Or both? :-) If so, that really is a pretty song. I *thought* I was hearing snippets of English in there, even though the closed captioning just said Singing in Japanese, or something like that. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: hardware suckz
maru dubshinki wrote: Actually Linux can read NTFS, and fairly well. I once helped a friend set it up so he could listen to his music collection - but the real problem is that you have to go in via the command line (AFAIK), and Windows is *extremely* hostile to CLIs, what with all the special characters and spaces in the file names. Not to mention we couldn't seem to get tab completion to work, so it was manual copy-paste-quoting. Not fun. If this was from Linux, couldn't you have bundled together each directory -- or even large directory tree -- you wanted to keep into a tarball on the working Linux drive? That would have at least saved a lot of individual file copying. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Hello (hello, hello)
Robert Seeberger wrote: Oh, that's the way, uh-huh uh-huh A dance floor game I saw a couple of years ago at Con-Stellation, courtesy of Pat McAdams: Take two index cards. Write That's the way on the front of one card. Write I like it on the other. Write Uh-huh, uh-huh on the front of the second card. Write a lot of ooh ooh oohs on the back of the second card. By flipping and/or raising the right card, the vast majority of the song's lyrics can be captioned live during the song. Maybe you had to be there, Maru,,. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Hello (hello, hello)
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: So bye-bye, miss American pie. Drove my Chevy to the levee, But the levee was dry. And them good old boys were drinkin' whiskey and rye Singin', This'll be the day that I die. This'll be the day that I die. It's not all bad, because it inspired one of Weird Al's best ever songs, The Saga Begins. Far better than the source song and source movie. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Hello (hello, hello)
Robert Seeberger wrote: Heh! Amateurs!G So many nights I sit by my window Waiting for someone to sing me his song So many dreams I kept deep inside me Alone in the dark but now You've come along You light up my life You give me hope To carry on You light up my days and fill my nights with song That one's off topic, because it's actually a religious song in disguise. :-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Hello...
Charlie Bell wrote: Sir Steve of Sloan! Well, if you'd just turned on icq occasionally... I see from your other post you're doing well... still got the Jetta or bought a proper USian fuel hog? ;) I got the Jetta paid off last year, and it's still going strong. I'm really enjoying life without a car payment for the moment. If the gas prices take another major hike, I may consider a turbo diesel Jetta or Passat, but otherwise, no plans for anything new any time soon. At least, not until the hydrogen burning or Mr. Fusion versions come out... I have this really weird urge to be ontopic. I'm sure it'll pass... ;) On topic? What's that? ;-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Playing Ketchup was Re: Cold Pictures
Jo Anne wrote: How is everyone? Any other sleepers out there care to check in? I'm pretty good. I'm working out at Redstone Arsenal here in Huntsville, doing missile simulation-related work for a small contractor. I really like the job, and the people I work with. I bought my first house back in October, convenient to work, and to the rest of town. I'm now the editor of the local astronomy club's newsletter... http://vbas.org/ ...and the secretary of the local science fiction club: http://con-stellation.org/nasfa/ __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Hello...
Charlie Bell wrote: Hey chaps and chapesses, Thought I'd pop in to see how things are. So what's new in Brin-L land? Charlie Hey, Charlie, long time no see! __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: My Uncles Website
Robert G. Seeberger wrote: http://www.wormanizer.com/ Its..well.its a worm call. For fishing worms. No kidding! And it worksG Pretty cool. Wonder if it works on Arrakis... ;-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Query: spoken numbers in 1200 AD
Max Battcher wrote: As a person who has had to work across radixes it is much easier to deal with radixes that are powers of two (binary, base 4, octal, hexadecimal) than any other arbitrary base. There's a reason computers use binary or unary. They make significantly more sense than base 10, for most things. Base 12 sounds ridiculous, Not if you routinely have to divide numbers into thirds or sixths, something that's not too uncommon in the real world. Thirds and sixths are pretty common in nature. 12 is evenly divisible by 2, 3, 4, and 6, a much better list of factors than the puny 2 and 5 you get with base 10. and all the more ridiculous for your religious ranting and racism. To quote Bailiff Bull Shannon, Oookay... I didn't see either of those things in Robert's post. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: More Debris Around Uranus
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: --Ronn! :) Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country and two words have been added to the pledge of Allegiance... UNDER GOD. Wouldn't it be a pity if someone said that is a prayer and that would be eliminated from schools too? -- Red Skelton (Someone asked me to change my .sig quote back, so I did.) Judging from the title of the post, I thought we'd get an American Standard sig... ;-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Defeat in Victory
Doug Pensinger wrote: These are the kinds of things that characterize the President; reckless disregard for the law. We hear about a man that calls the principals that have built this nation and to some extent have made the world what it is today a goddamned piece of paper What is the reference for that quote? I saw someone mention that he said that about the US Constitution in an earlier post, but I think I missed the post giving an actual reference for that. If he actually said that, then that's really scary. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: NZ devil Santas terrorise Auckland
Steve Sloan wrote: Yes, from the Multiple Santa episode of The Tick. :-) Jim Sharkey wrote: Thanks, Steve! That's a great episode, and it was neat to see an extension of the comic that hadn't gotten explored. Your post reminded me to check TVShowsOnDVD.com, to see if there was any news about The Tick cartoon on DVD. No such luck, but I voted for it on the site. Maybe one of these days... __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: NZ devil Santas terrorise Auckland
Jim Sharkey wrote: Sounds like some people have been watching too many Ben Edlund cartoons. :-) Jim Will anyone get this? Maru Yes, from the Multiple Santa episode of The Tick. :-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Rita
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Anyone in the affected area have anything to report (assuming that they have power and are able to do so)? My brother and his wife, who live in the Clear Lake community in Houston, didn't get a chance to fly to Alabama this weekend to see the Alabama/Arkansas game as planned. The good news is, they made it to College Station, along with their two new kittens, to stay with her parents during the storm. It took the whole gang about 13 hours to get there, a drive that usually takes two hours. The kittens are named Amminadab and Scooter, BTW. :-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: FLCL and Paranoia Agent
Robert Seeberger wrote: Soap opera. Samurai Champloo: Rocks tha' hizzouse. Kurosawa goes toon.) Also soapy, but the action is awesome. I can't wait for Jin and Rap-Bastard to get into a fight again.G Good show, and the warning at the beginning of the show was just funny. The beat-box samurai thing was hilarious. But there are a couple of sterling anime examples they've been retransmitting. FLCL, at just six 30-minute episodes, is arguably the strangest, but definitely the most creative. The storyline is more or less standard alien-invasion fare, but the series makes bold experiments with the toon genre, breaking into maga style just for kicks, for instance, and the end titles are set to Ride on Shooting Star, an interesting and energetic example of the punk genre as interpreted by a Japanese mindset, capably rendered by The Pillows. I like the music, but everything else about this series sucks IMO. There are occasional fun things in the show. I particularly liked one behind the scenes scene, where the actors were back in their trailer, complaining about filming a stunt sequence that had just happened on the show. At one time, the Adult Swim bumper comments for this show said it was just a way for the animators in the studio to blow off steam, and that makes sense. There's no real storyline, just a bunch of experimental gags strung together. I notice a lot of Plimpton influence, with all that weird stuff about pulling things out of your head. Paranoia Agent is weird too with its story centering around a rollerblading boy with a metal bat who begins by stunning people who are at the ends of their ropes -- and who becomes something much more sinister. I haven't missed an episode. Very addicting and the plot twists are tasty. It's a very weird show, but it's a weird show that makes sense. If you pay attention, there is an actual storyline there, and it came together nicely in last night's final episode. I'm still pondering the old guy with the chalk, and how he might have tied into history. Now that I think about it, wasn't he in the opening sequence, laughing with a mushroom cloud in the background? I shouldn't say any more without spoiler warnings, though. I think my favorite is FullMetal Alchemist. The backstory is complex with interesting social implications and with every episode I want to chew chew chew. I agree completely. Back when it and Ghost in the Shell: Stand-Alone Complex premiered together, I thought I would like Ghost more, because of the style and subject matter. FullMetal turned out to be much more interesting than I thought from the previews. But have you been watching Justice League Unlimited, Zatch Bell, and One Piece? Is Justice League Unlimited dead? Or maybe the team that's been making these shows since Batman: The Animated Series? I say that, because the last episode sure looked like a goodbye. The title, Epilogue, sounds like it, but that's not all. It wrapped up the Batman Beyond storyline. The way it told stories about Batman reminded me of a funeral. It also ended with a scene that mirrored the first scene of Batman: Animated: heavy clouds over Gotham, two cops patrolling in a floating police vehicle, and a mysterious bat figure flying by. I think the cops' dialog was even the same. The two scenes showed two different eras of Gotham, and the vehicles were different (a police blimp vs. some kind of futuristic antigrav car), and the bat figures were different (Man-Bat vs. McGinnis as Batman), but there was an obvious homage there. Maybe it's just a way of passing the torch to The Batman. The Batman isn't a bad show, but it's not even remotely as good as Batman: Animated. The villains are much more shallow, for one thing. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: FLCL and Paranoia Agent
The Fool wrote: Neon Genesis Evangelion (coming) That's good news. I keep hearing about that show, but I've never seen it. Gundam Seed Yup, that was worth watching. It reminds me of a Heinlein juvenile, where kids have to learn duty and moral lessons against the backdrop of a space war. These Gundam spinoffs never seem to run out of excuses for Earth and the space colonies to fight in big mecha -- this time, over human genetic engineering. The genocidal descendants of the Greens rule Earth, while the space colonies are full of Coordinators (aka the genetically engineered) and neutrals. .hack//Legend of The Twilight Bracelet Really weak, compared to the earlier series, .hack/Sign. The story, characters, style, and look are nowhere near as good. Much more of a kiddie show. MEGAS XLR Hilarious. G.I. Joe Sigma Six (coming) CGI, I presume, like the other recent GI Joe movies? FullMetal Alchemist New--in 4 weeks Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex: 2nd Gig (coming) Damn good news, on both counts! Escaflown Movie --in 3 weeks Also good news. The little bit of a series I saw a few years back, I think on Fox Kids, was pretty interesting. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: USA bashing is fun
Alberto Monteiro wrote: No idea. Maybe it's because the USA likes to single it out against the rest of the world - like refusing to use metric, using the middle-endian calendar system, I'll grant you that doing day-month-year dates makes more sense than what we do, but only slightly. Day-month-year is still stupid, because it makes more sense for the highest-order to be first, so it should really be year-month-day. That way, you can sort on a computer much more easily, and it just makes more sense in general. It bugs me almost as much as my alarm clock, which turns a little LED on in the display to denote AM. It would make *much* more sense for PM to be the high bit, if you have to use 12-hour time at all. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: It's a boy!
Jeroen van Baardwijk wrote: Great news, everyone! Earlier today, on Stardate 20050726.1325, or 26 July 2005, 15:25 hours local time, Sonja gave birth to our second son! Just like our first son, Tom, he will go through life with a very short name: we have named him Max. Way to go, Sonja and Jeroen! And welcome to the world, Max! __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Are You a Science-Fiction Scholar? (Quiz)
Travis Edmunds wrote: http://encarta.msn.com/quiz_168/Are_You_a_Science-Fiction_Scholar.html Everybody knows that Klingons are crabby and that Jedis use the Force. But how much do you really know about science fiction? Take a tour through science-fiction history and see how you measure up. I'm embarrassed to say that I got only 10/11 right. I somehow guessed the right answer for the obscure Kirk question, and yet I confused the Bene Gesserit chant with the Mentat chant. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Government DRM in the broadcast flag may be law th
Rumor has it that someone on the senate appropriations committee is going to try and sneak an amendment in to make the broadcast flag (DRM in digital television broadcasts) law this week. The EFF has an action alert where - if you are from Alabama, Alaska, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Dakota, Ohio, Philadelphia, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia, or Wisconsin - you can contact your senator on the committee, and tell them to stop the amendment. To take action on this issue, click on the link below: https://secure.eff.org/site/Advocacy?s_oo=b4qiJD1vBroKp4ScbxcFXQ..amp;id=145 If the text above does not appear as a link or it wraps across multiple lines, then copy and paste it into the address area of your browser. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Yet another on-line test . . .
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=15145961900538302649* Non-Mormon -5 Orthodoxy, -2 LDS knowledge, -11 Cultural homogeneity My test tracked 3 variables How you compared to other people your age and gender: You scored higher than 34% on Orthodoxy You scored higher than 8% on LDS knowledge You scored higher than 47% on Homogeneity __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Just call me Grampa
Doug Pensinger wrote: As of 5:25 or so this morning. My daughter gave birth to a healthy baby boy, 7 lb 4 oz., 20.5 in. (sorry Alberto). Congratulations! __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Fwd: Whale-Dolphin Hybrid Has Baby 'Wholphin'
HONOLULU (AP) _ The only whale-dolphin mix in captivity has given birth to a playful female calf, officials at Sea Life Park Hawaii said Thursday. The calf was born on Dec. 23 to Kekaimalu, a mix of a false killer whale and an Atlantic bottlenose dolphin. Park officials said they waited to announce the birth until now because of recent changes in ownership and operations at the park. http://www.livescience.com/animalworld/ap_050415_wolphin.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Get your hands off me, you damn dirty ape!
Julia Thompson wrote: Let's hope it's just a pet. (Spank, spank...) How shocking! I think somewhere in here, there's a joke about a Peter, Gabriel. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: The Other Christianity (was Re: Babble theory, and comments)
Nick Arnett wrote: You are aware, surely, that tremendous regime changes have taken place without wars? The most recent example is South Africa. I agree with that example. Perhaps closer to your heart would be a certain enormous former British colony with a primarily Hindu population? Against the British. They were misguided, but they genuinely thought they were helping the countries they colonized. Ghandi's passive resistance techniques worked on the British, but how well would they have worked against a monster like Saddam? __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Charles Stross Attains Posthuman Status
From the April 1st edition of Locus Online: http://www.locusmag.com/2005/Features/0401_Stross.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
12 Killed in SFWA Flamewar
Another LocusOnline article from April 1st. This sounds awfully familar... http://www.locusmag.com/2005/Features/0401_Flamewar.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Dirty Monitor?
Does your computer monitor have dust and crud on it? Does it need a good cleaning? This service will clean it from the inside: http://www.clean-your-screen-for-free-now.com/ __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Human Virus Scanner
Robert G. Seeberger wrote: http://totl.net/VirusScanner/? My results look awfully similar: Human Virus Scanner The virus that have infected you will be show here along with thier cures, if known. Viruses you suffer from: Pokemon Pikachu! Use your hyper-electric-get-a-life move now! Linux Install the latest version of Microsoft Windows. Learn to love it. USA Rule, Britannia! Britannia rule the waves! [repeat] Junkfood Eat some real food. Something which you can identify the source of every ingredient, not the point of manufacture. Sci-fi Stop wearing the stick-on ears. Religion Read God's Debris by Scott Adams (yes, the Dilbert guy) Windows Try MacOS X. It's based on UNIX, it has a smoother UI than Windows and it doesn't suck. As an extra feature the boxes look nice. Politics Stop caring! Hippyism Free love is passe and potentially dangerous, and patchouli smells like cat piss. Environmentalism Consume more stuff! It's easier to buy new stuff than to recycle. Macintosh Use a mouse with more than one button. Viruses you might suffer from: Free BSD (95%) The GPL isn't that bad really. Adopt a penguin at the zoo. Japan (90%) Big is good. Small is bad. Giant robots would not make a good last line of defence for Earth. UNIX (65%) Anything this old must be obselete. Go and install a nice modern operating system. I hear MSDOS has come a long way lately. Brand Names (85%) Having a well-known name doesn't make it good. X11 (60%) I hear Mac OS 10 Aqua is nice at this time of year. Computer Games (60%) Stop staring at the screen and get some fresh air. You should see a doctor about the RSI in your thumbs. Prog Rock (60%) Long hair looks dumb with a bald spot. Listen to CD's they don't crackle. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Big News for a list member
Gautam Mukunda wrote: Big news for another list member. Our very own John Giorgis has just been chosed as a Presidential Management Fellow - one of the most prestigious appointments in the civil service. Congratulations John! Way to go, John! __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Battlestar Galactica renewed
Damon Agretto wrote: Which of course one should be willing to suspend in order to enjoy SF. I personally like how they're handling this aspect. Different enough from most other SF shows that have been on TV or the movies. Nothing original (and fans of Anime have seen this before), but no less plausable than warpspeed and the like... It's essentially Asimov's Foundation FTL drive, the hyperspace Jump. It takes a lot of time to calculate the right settings, then the jump to the next location is instantantaneous. It's hard to do a space show without FTL, so at least they're not zipping around the universe willy-nilly. There are real limits to how quickly you can get to the next point in your journey. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Bill Moyers: There is no tomorrow [Update}
maru wrote: Since you must have known such a statement would not have been made and you refused or failed to do any primary research on this supposed quote, what was your motive in printing sSince you must have known such a statement would not have been made and you refused or failed to do any primary research on this supposed quote, what was your motive in printing such a damnable lie? -from the first article. You know what they say about lies, damnable lies, and statistics. We've had entirely too much of the latter, so it seems rather appropriate now to get some of the former. And knowing the story is false is a little heartening. Even though it wasn't true, it did spread pretty far. I remember hearing about that exact fictional Watt speech back in high school, when I dubbed that thinking Jesus Christ, Garbageman. Looking back, Janitor makes more sense. I believed it at the time, because around then, I heard that actual thinking from one of my sister's friends, who was quoting her preacher. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Holographic gas-saving disc a hoax
Robert Seeberger wrote: Heck..The person I heard this from got it from a bumpersticker. All the good ideas are already taken. G Another bumper sticker I saw the other day, that I liked: Things just haven't been the same, Since that house fell on my sister. :-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Oops, resend: Another irregular question . . .
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: When I tried to copy the files from my old computer which died back in November onto this new computer by putting the hard drives** from the old one into this one in the secondary position, something strange and not-wonderful happened. The first one worked fine. The second one (the primary drive from the computer that died), though, b-i-g problem: now, it, the secondary drive from that machine (with all my astronomy/teaching stuff and more), and the hard drive which came in this new machine all are considered Unknown device by this machine. Are your master/slave/cable select jumpers set up correctly on the drives? Also, is your power supply strong enough to power all your drives? (2) the computer and everything associated with it (including the phone line) is plugged into a power center with surge protection which itself is plugged into a surge-protected power strip which is plugged into the wall, and AFAIK those surge protectors are working, Are you getting enough juice through two surge protectors hooked together to power your machine? Maybe try plugging your computer into one surge protector, that's plugged directly into the wall. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Googlism _ kind of L3
Robert G. Seeberger wrote: http://www.googlism.com Googlism.com will find out what Google.com thinks of you, your friends or anything! Search for your name here or for a good laugh check out some of the popular Googlisms below. I did some for some names from the list and got some funny results. Googlism for: steve sloan steve sloan is a very funky man steve sloan is the new athletic director steve sloan is a detective for the department steve sloan is also a master in 3d imaging steve sloan is working the phone with the hurricanes to setup a three steve sloan is a homicide detective for the metropolitan police in la SNIP The vast majority of those are from two places: the TV show Diagnosis: Murder, and a fairly well-known coach here in the South. I wouldn't have known about either of these, but people keep pointing them out to me. Whenever I first meet someone, I'm constantly being asked if I'm related to the coach. Even worse, about a year ago, there was one crazy woman who sent me a couple of emails, thinking I was actually the TV detective. So now I have an idea of how celebrities feel about being stalked, without getting the benefit of actually being a celebrity. ;-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Analog Story
Warren Ockrassa wrote: John's got enough hot gas to suit all of SoCal's geothermal needs well into the next millennium, which is why there's no longer an energy crisis there either. Sorry, that's not a feasible solution. You'd have to find an economical way to pump the gas all the way from DC. ;-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Brin: Holocene Chat
David Brin wrote: Below is the list of those I already see interested. Anyone else? [EMAIL PROTECTED],Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED],Matt Grimaldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ,William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED], Please include Steve Sloan, [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: E-mail program questions
Warren Ockrassa wrote: Netscape Communicator has a very nice thread manager for discussion groups (!) and integrates more or less seamlessly with Navigator. (Freeware.) That's close to the one I'd recommend, Mozilla Thunderbird. It's free, and has a Bayesian spam filter. It also works like the old Netscape Communicator, with true email thread display. I've used Netscape Communicator and its descendants almost exclusively for home email use, since I first started on the net in the mid-90s. I've tried Eudora and Pegasus, and I've had to use Outlook at two different jobs. I haven't liked any of them as much as I like the Netscape series. Thunderbird isn't too good for keyboard-only input, though. I personally don't mind, but you may have different criteria than I do. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: No Spoilers: Talking about THE INCREDIBLES?
Steve Sloan wrote: There's still time for them to slap together a car movie, before Pixar's car movie comes out next year. That would fit a pattern, where Dreamworks only copies *every other* Pixar movie. Pixar Dreamworks - -- A Bug's Life Antz Monsters, Inc.[skipped] Alberto Monteiro wrote: Couldn't _Shrek_ count as the homolog of _Monsters, Inc._ ? I hadn't thought about it, but it's possible. I don't think MI and Shrek are as similar to each other as the examples I gave, but they do have things in common. Both present a story from the sympathetic monster's viewpoint, and both feature a big guy and his perky little sidekick. I probably didn't think of Shrek as an example because, unlike the other Dreamworks movies I listed, I really like Shrek. I don't *want* it to be just another possible ripoff of a Pixar movie -- even if all that means is that they heard about Monsters, Inc., then chose to adapt Shrek from the original book because it was kinda similar. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: No Spoilers: Talking about THE INCREDIBLES?
Warren Ockrassa wrote: Pixar does OK, yeah. Pretty consistent product. I'm just waiting for the inevitable clone movie by Dreamworks. The Amazings or something equally goofy. There's still time for them to slap together a car movie, before Pixar's car movie comes out next year. That would fit a pattern, where Dreamworks only copies *every other* Pixar movie. Pixar Dreamworks - -- A Bug's Life Antz Monsters, Inc.[skipped] Finding Nemo Shark Tale The Incredibles [skipped, at least so far] Cars [who knows?] __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: No Spoilers: Talking about THE INCREDIBLES?
Robert Seeberger wrote: Who is doing Robots? The people who did Ice Age, Blue Sky Studios, with Fox as their distributor. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question: new HD
Alberto Monteiro wrote: (b) map the _logical_ partition to it by inserting a line in /etc/fstab: /dev/hdb5 /windows2 vfatdefaults,uid=albmont 0 0 I just learned another wrinkle to editing fstabs the other day, while trying to get a Linux machine set up at work. On newer Linux distros (Redhat Fedora Core 3, in my case), they've added a new hardware auto-detect daemon called HAL. (Insert your own 2001 jokes here... ;-) ) It will automatically change your fstab when it detects a new USB or internal disk (or removal of a disk), and when it does, it deletes or changes your hand-written fstab entries. There are ways to keep it from doing that, but I didn't figure it out in the few minutes I spent looking at it. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregular Question: DVD±RW
Ronn Blankenship wrote: In looking at DVD burners and the blank discs for them, I have noticed that some are labeled DVD-RW while others are labeled DVD+RW. So, naturally, I wonder, (1) What's the difference? Good question. They are different, but the difference was too technical for even the relatively knowledgeable Screen Savers guys in TechTV to understand. (2) Which, if either, is preferable? Is this something like VHS/Beta, where those who choose wrong now will forever be stuck with discs they have burned which can't be read on any other computer, or what? Right now, it looks like both plus and dash are here to stay, because as far as I know, all DVD drives and DVD players made in the last few years can read both. Plus, DVD writers that can *write* both are fairly inexpensive right now. In fact, I don't remember even seeing single-format DVD writers on store shelves in several months. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: linux
Alberto Monteiro wrote: Has anyone here played with the xscreensaver? I am interested in using the molecule screensaver to create an animated molecule that can be exported to a file. I have trouble with two steps: (a) where are those damned .pdb files? I think you can find them, as well as a bunch of resources about them, here: http://www.povray.org/resources/links/3D_Programs/Chemical_Molecular_Modelling_Programs/ I haven't played with PDB files myself, but I remembered that file extension from my POV-Ray days, so I looked on their site, and found that links page. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: More hypocrisy on display than skin
Dan Minette wrote: Sex is tied to one's emotions, to one's sense of self in a way that cleaning toilets, flipping burgers, raking yards, going down coal mines, etc. are not. No, but all those actions could be turned into euphemisms for sex... ;-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: The Mercies of The Vatican
Warren Ockrassa wrote: I don't believe so; I was pretty specific about where I thought it existed. The list is really quite short: 1. Gorillas, chimpanzees, bonobos. 2. Bottlenosed dolphins. 3. Giant squid and/or some octopus species. The third is tentative, but cephalopods do seem to be pretty dang bright. The consciousness present in apes is sufficient for them to produce language when taught to sign. If dolphins are not communicating complexly, then it's pretty hard for us to say we are either (just because we can't decode all the elements of a language doesn't mean it doesn't exist). You may want to add parrots and crows to the list, because they're also pretty smart. In particular, I've seen parrots in documentaries show remarkable abilities for spoken and symbolic language. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Hurricane Ivan Update
Robert Seeberger wrote: How is Steve? Just getting nailed by rain and wind in the last couple of hours. I got soaked by horizontal rain on the way from work back to my car. I managed to avoid any significant water in the road, and I was very happy to discover that I had power when I got home to my apartment. Most of the day was just light rain and wind. Things didn't kick in until about half an hour before I left work. (You can un-shut-up nowG) You know, if I hadn't been hundreds of messages behind when you posted that, I'd have been a lot more offended. ;-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
The Brin-L weekly chat has been a list tradition for over six years. Way back on 27 May, 1998, Marco Maisenhelder first set up a chatroom for the list, and on the next day, he established a weekly chat time. We've been through several servers, chat technologies, and even casts of regulars over the years, but the chat goes on... and we want more recruits! Whether you're an active poster or a lurker, whether you've been a member of the list from the beginning or just joined today, we would really like for you to join us. We have less politics, more Uplift talk, and more light-hearted discussion. We're non-fattening and 100% environmentally friendly... -(_() Though sometimes marshmallows do get thrown. The Weekly Brin-L chat is scheduled for Wednesday 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time. There's usually somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. If you want to attend, it's really easy now. All you have to do is send your web browser to: http://wtgab.demon.co.uk/~brinl/mud/ ...And you can connect directly from William's new web interface! My instruction page tells you how to log on, and how to talk when you get in: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html It also gives a list of commands to use when you're in there. In addition, it tells you how to connect through a MUD client, which is more complicated to set up initially, but easier and more reliable than the web interface once you do get it set up. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Fwd: Chances of aliens finding Earth disappearing
An interesting link posted to LarryNiven-L: Chances of aliens finding Earth disappearing http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns6255 Frank Gasperik: A very narrow window here. Maybe that's why we can't find aliens, they all watch CABLE! __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Fwd: Gorilla asks for HELP!
Another link from LarryNiven-L, that's even more topical on Brin-L: Gorilla Seeks Help Using Sign Language http://start.earthlink.net/newsarticle?cat=10aid=809022602_5310_lead_story Koko the gorilla makes very specific complaints about her toothache, and gets excellent service. [Insert HMO joke here] ;-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Every Single Sperm
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: If there is a God, why is it inconceivable? (I am not saying I agree or disagree with the Catholic position on contraception. I am asking the very specific question: Why it is inconceivable that if it is the case that God exists, then He has told Catholics that He does not approve of contraception? Please address all responses to answering that question. And yes, I'm still serious, and still have a point here.) Because in my (and many other people's) opinion, opposing contraception is a bad idea that would drastically lower the quality of life for almost everyone. If God opposes all contraception, then that suggests a God with very little understanding, compassion, or empathy for the human condition. If that's true, then we're all thoroughly screwed. So, inconceivable wouldn't be the right word, but terrifying might. BTW, I suspect that the real roots of Catholic opposition to contraception come from the days of the Protestant Reformation, when the Church was desperately trying to out-breed the Protestants. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
A Brief History of US Political Parties
Here's a link that appeared on LarryNiven-L, and I thought it was pretty interesting. It gives a little history of how US political parties have gained and lost stature, split up, formed different coalitions, took each other's names, etc. Origin of the Species Up from the ooze, into the mud -- a brief history of American political evolution By David Von Drehle http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A64984-2004Jul20.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started about forty minutes ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html And now, you can join without all that work setting up a telnet client. Just send your web browser to: http://wtgab.demon.co.uk/~brinl/mud/ ...And you can connect directly from William's new web interface! __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Southern-ness test
William T Goodall wrote: http://www.tricklefan.com/southern/test.html I got 30/71... Only 41/71, Southern Sympathizer. And I also had a lot of trouble with the car innard questions. :-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started a little over an hour ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html BTW, I hope to write a better, possibly more inviting chat reminder some time today, and possibly drum up some additional regulars. But for now, this is all you need to know: everyone on either list is welcome, including lurkers. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Atheists Purge History
Damon Agretto wrote: Can someone post the whole article for those of us that don't want to start an account? Or do we have a Brin-L account thre too? I went to bugmenot.com, and found this account: user name: utesfan password: sierra __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started a little over an hour ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Uplift Fan-Fic Announcement: The Dorrvi -- Added Information
I've added a new Vilyehm Teighlore fan-fic story, The Dorrvi -- Added Information: http://stories.brin-l.org/dorrvi.html To see the original Dorrvi listing it refers to, go to pages 106-109 of _Contacting Aliens_. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Unitarians not a religion
Julia Thompson wrote: And she does all kinds of crap to get her name in the headlines anyway. Any publicity is good publicity, something like that. (Egomaniacal -!) Ick. Sounds a lot like our own Judge Roy Moore. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it's starting now. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: What America Does with its Hegemony
Doug Pensinger wrote: I agree that the US should have intervened. Do you agree, if it would have done so, it would have been dissed by a great deal of the world for imperealism? Should we have been willing to violate international law to save half a million human lives? What did the U.S. have to gain by intervening in Rwanda? Diddly squat, but that doesn't mean dedicated critics of the US couldn't come up with something. Presumably, Rwanda had something useful enough for past European imperialists to colonize the country, and the critics could use that. If we were successful in preventing a genocide and that was our clear motive in interveneing, the success of our mission would speak for itself. If, instead of asking for another $25 B for Iraq, we put that kind of money and effort towards ending the AIDS epidemic, who could doubt our motive was pure? Critics would claim the politicians who proposed it were using African AIDS victims as an excuse for taking money from taxpayers, and giving it to their buddies in the pharmaceutical companies. Only those who have dishonest motives themselves. France's dishonest motives for opposing the war in Iraq haven't hurt them so far. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it's starting now. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Huntsville Forbes #8 Best Place 2004
I'm proud to see that Huntsville, Alabama is ranked number 8 in Forbes' Best Places for Business. Not bad at all, considering that it has the smallest population in the top 25 list, at only 354,000 people. Other Brineller homes are also on the list, including Houston at number 15, and Austin at number 3. http://www.forbes.com/2004/05/05/04bestplacesland.html Best Places For Business Edited by Kurt Badenhausen, 05.07.04, 7:00 AM ET The best metro areas to launch a business or a career often revolve around universities that offer a diverse, educated work force and, especially when they are far from big cities, relatively low costs. Such regions--Raleigh, Austin and Ann Arbor among them--are also attractive places to live, judging by the patterns of migration. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started about forty minutes ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: What America Does with its Hegemony
Gary Denton wrote: Well, I learned about the reliability of the American press last year when I went to independent sources and found out that Iraq had shut down its nuclear weapons program immediately after the first Gulf War. Where did this information come from? That definitely sounds like one of those extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence sorta situations... God, where have you been? Do you just watch Fox? Sorry, this has been in my blog so many times and finally filtered out to mainstream media months ago. Here Is USATODAY 12/1/03 but I think it is more than a little self-serving and also was set up to provide an out for intel in the US who got it wrong. Iraqi scientists never revived their long-dead nuclear bomb program, and in fact lied to Saddam Hussein about how much progress they were making before U.S.-led attacks shut the operation down for good in 1991, Iraqi physicists say. Other leading physicists, in Baghdad interviews, said the hope for an Iraqi atomic bomb was never realistic. It was all like building sand castles, said Abdel Mehdi Talib, Baghdad University's dean of sciences. http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-12-01-iraq-arms_x.htm OK, that essentially fixes what I was having so much trouble buying. I couldn't see any reason why Saddam would quit trying to build or buy nuclear weapons, because he certainly wouldn't do it out of the goodness of his heart. These articles give a reason, and I *can* believe that his scientists tried for a long time and failed, then he gave it up to move on to some other scheme after Gulf War I wrecked his facilities. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: What America Does with its Hegemony
Gary Denton wrote: Well, I learned about the reliability of the American press last year when I went to independent sources and found out that Iraq had shut down its nuclear weapons program immediately after the first Gulf War. Where did this information come from? That definitely sounds like one of those extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence sorta situations... __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Battlestar Galactica
Nick Lidster wrote: Perfectly true, anyone can be a grunt, however when your in the middle of no where, have no backup, and need to get the job done what do you do? Though you fly in the clouds, a marine is a grunt first. The 58th was heralded as the best of the best. To me they were flying grunts, more then once the played in the dirt. And aside from the other objections, why would that war even *need* ground troops? The enemy on the show constantly wore spacesuits in Earth-like environments, suggesting that they couldn't live on the planets they were trying to conquer. Early in the show, an alien prisoner even turned into a puddle of green goo after drinking ordinary water! Why would the aliens want to conquer planets where humans live, if they can't live there? Maybe they want to terraform the Earth-like planets so they can live there. Maybe the planets they've been living on are in the same solar systems as the human colonies, and they're too territorial to allow human colonies in solar systems they already claim. In either case, why wouldn't they just bomb the colonists from orbit, instead of wasting their ground troops? Ship-to-ship fighting and dogfights would make sense in that scenario, as humans fight to keep alien bombers or terraforming machines from their colonies, but I can't think of a good reason for ground fighting. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
[Larryniven-L] The army is working on impact armor
This is a pretty cool article that got posted to LarryNiven-L earlier today. Looks like a potentially very useful new technology. http://apnews1.iwon.com/article/20040429/D828HIG00.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: ADMIN: Wonky server
Nick Arnett wrote: I do most of my development and day-to-day work on W3K and XP... they've been very stable. I should hope so, since they had an extra thousand years to work on that first one! ;-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Neanderthal growth rate
David Hobby wrote: It is an interesting idea: Neanderthals, though intelligent, were adapted for a low-tech, cold weather evolutionary niche. So maybe they were a different species--the debate goes on. Because dental growth is an excellent indicator of somatic development, our results suggest that Neanderthals developed faster even than their immediate ancestor, H. heidelbergensis. Dental growth became longer and brain size increased from the Plio-Pleistocene in hominid evolution. Neanderthals, despite having a large brain, were characterized by a short period of development. This autapomorphy in growth is an evolutionary reversal, and points strongly to a specific distinction between H. sapiens and H. neanderthalensis. So Neanderthals really did live fast and die young. I guess since their creative, neotonous childhoods were so short, they wouldn't have had a chance to develop the kind of mental flexibility modern humans have. I've also seen speculation that they couldn't develop much culture, because they didn't have enough old people for oral tradition to start. If they grew up quickly, they may have also aged quickly, which would support that theory. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started about three hours ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Fwd: [Larryniven-l] ALERT: The LATEST of SCAMS
Subject: [Larryniven-l] ALERT: The LATEST of SCAMS Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 02:23:10 -0700 From: Frank Gasperik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Larry Niven Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This one is good for a real laugh! From THE REGISTER I suppose it had to happen some day. Frank G. Cosmic 419er lost in space By Lester Haines Published Friday 16th April 2004 14:51 GMT For aficionados of the advance fee fraud email genre, we have a truly delicious 419 solicitation to brighten your Friday. Just when you thought you'd heard it all, try the one about the Nigerian astronaut stuck on Soyuz: Subject: Nigerian Astronaut Wants To Come Home Dr. Bakare Tunde Astronautics Project Manager National Space Research and Development Agency (NASRDA) Plot 555 Misau Street PMB 437 Garki, Abuja, FCT NIGERIA Dear Mr. Sir, REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE-STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL I am Dr. Bakare Tunde, the cousin of Nigerian Astronaut, Air Force Major Abacha Tunde. He was the first African in space when he made a secret flight to the Salyut 6 space station in 1979. He was on a later Soviet spaceflight, Soyuz T-16Z to the secret Soviet military space station Salyut 8T in 1989. He was stranded there in 1990 when the Soviet Union was dissolved. His other Soviet crew members returned to earth on the Soyuz T-16Z, but his place was taken up by return cargo. There have been occasional Progrez supply flights to keep him going since that time. He is in good humor, but wants to come home. In the 14-years since he has been on the station, he has accumulated flight pay and interest amounting to almost $15,000,000 American Dollars. This is held in a trust at the Lagos National Savings and Trust Association. If we can obtain access to this money, we can place a down payment with the Russian Space Authorities for a Soyuz return flight to bring him back to Earth. I am told this will cost $ 3,000,000 American Dollars. In order to access the his trust fund we need your assistance. Consequently, my colleagues and I are willing to transfer the total amount to your account or subsequent disbursement, since we as civil servants are prohibited by the Code of Conduct Bureau (Civil Service Laws) from opening and/ or operating foreign accounts in our names. Needless to say, the trust reposed on you at this juncture is enormous. In return, we have agreed to offer you 20 percent of the transferred sum, while 10 percent shall be set aside for incidental expenses (internal and external) between the parties in the course of the transaction. You will be mandated to remit the balance 70 percent to other accounts in due course. Kindly expedite action as we are behind schedule to enable us include downpayment in this financial quarter. Please acknowledge the receipt of this message via my direct number 234 (0) 9-234-2220 only. Yours Sincerely, Dr. Bakare Tunde Astronautics Project Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nasrda.gov.ng/ __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Alternate History
Gautam Mukunda wrote, on the Massachusetts Munster: It's from the Adams family, right? Nope, it's actually from a very similar series that ran at the same time (1964-6 according to IMDB) called The Munsters. Like the Addams, the Munsters freaked out ordinary people every week. Unlike most of the the Addams, the Munsters actually looked like monsters, including a Frankenstein's monster dad, a bride-of- Frankenstein/vampire mom, a vampire grampa, a werewolf son, and the joke: a generically beautiful blonde daughter who the others think is plain. Since the Addams Family started out in cartoons before the TV show, I would imagine that The Munsters are a rip-off of them. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: The Return Of The Cows
Alberto Monteiro wrote: Jewish Capitalism: You have two cows. Your palestin neighbour has a (baby cow? what's the english name for that?). Calf. Also used for elephant and whale babies. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Calafia Contest --6th try
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (The list is still too serious.) ---this time without hitting the control button with my wrist: In GURPS Uplift, the main continent on Calafia is named Farley. Anybody know why? I have my own idea and want to see if anyone's thinking along the same lines. (Lurker Stefan Jones need not answer---yet.) William Taylor Were they all living in a van... down by the river? ;-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Weekly Chat Reminder
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Re: Anti-War Protesters Climb London's Big Ben
Robert Seeberger wrote: Two anti-war protesters evaded tight security to climb London's landmark Big Ben clock tower at the Houses of Parliament as thousands marched on the first anniversary of the invasion of Iraq on Saturday. The pair unfurled a banner which read Time for Truth before rappelling down from the clockface 328 feet above the capital six hours later. They were arrested on suspicion of causing criminal damage. We want to send a clear message to (Prime Minister) Tony Blair that we and the British people are fed up with the half-truths and evasions on Iraq, said Stephen Tindale, executive director of environmental group Greenpeace, which organized the stunt. So does this mean that Greepeace finally admits that they're motivated by unrelated politics, rather than actual concern for the environment? __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Deep South Con 42 Report
have approached him then. He came in on time, when my back was turned, so my Dad flagged him down. We talked for a few minutes, and then a spark of realization popped into his eyes... Oh, you're *that* Steve Sloan! I've been communicating with you by email for years! David had sent him pictures of my early Streaker models, as examples. It felt really good to be remembered. I got him to sign _Contacting Aliens_, but I hadn't thought to bring _Brightness Reef_ and _Infinity's Shore_, so my Dad ran out to the car to get them, and we talked some more. He talked more about the challenges in putting the guide together. He complained about the name change, and how they decided to shrink most of his pictures down from full pages, often to very small sizes in the final book. A lot of that was because the book's text grew much bigger than originally planned, and writing and putting together the text was the part he found most difficult about the whole project. He offered to scan in all his finished work for the book for Bantam, but they were nervous about using newer technologies, and since they didn't know much about it, they were afraid that he wouldn't either. So, instead of just letting him scan them himself and email the results, they had him FedEx his art to them, where it got relayed to their old-fashioned print house out-of-state, then it went back to the home office, then back to him. In the end, it cost them a lot of money in shipping and artwork insurance, but they still felt better about it. When he sold the movie rights to Mace Neufeld, David put in a requirement that Kevin be in charge of concept design for the movie. I feel a lot better about any possible movie because of that. Several years back, during the Trevor Sands era, Kevin hd been subscribed to Brin-L, but not for very long, because the volume was just too overwhelming. He read, liked, and took a copy of the Trilateral Commission flyer, that Vilyehm wrote, and I printed, but I never found a good time to talk to him about V's other project ideas. He also took one of my T-shirt flyers. He doesn't go to cons very often, so I was lucky to catch him at this one. He asked me what software I used to create my Streaker pictures. I said it was pretty obscure, Hash Animation: Master. He had actually heard of it, and considered getting it at one time. He pointed out a particularly funny error in _Contacting Aliens_ on page 182, in the Urs patronymics. He wrote placeholders there, to be fixed later, then forgot to fix them: a Urs/ -ab some / -ul a few. Stefan Jones came to the rescue, by correcting his spelling in the new edition of GURPS Uplift, page 58: A-Urs, ab-Som, ab-Afue, ab-Mani. :-) My Dad took pictures of us together with his camera, my camera, and Kevin's. I was honored that he also wanted a picture of me. I will put the picture up on the memberpix page eventually. During a break in the conversation, I went over and got C.J. Cherryh to sign all the books I own of hers. She was the only other person I'd really heard of there, so she was really the only other autograph I asked for. After the autograph session, we went to the Humor in SF panel. One fun standout was the author of _Fat White Vampire Blues_. I've only read a snippet of the book in FSF, but it sounds pretty funny. We then attended the Art Auction, hosted by the con's toast master, actor Michael Sheard, who is originally from Aberdeen. He was an Admiral in Star Wars, a Nazi and Hitler in Indiana Jones movies, and he was in an incredible number of Dr. Who episodes. He was pretty funny, with a very impressive voice. The three pieces we'd bid on did not have enough bids to actually be in the auction, but it was still pretty fun, even though it was also a butt-numbingly *long* three hours. :-) Masquerade was fun. It started with a goofy skit involving some of the guests, starring a goddess, Michael Sheard, Carolyn Cherryh in a motorcycle helmet, Selina Rosen playing what I gather is her loud, brash, cigar-chomping character from the Queen of Denial books (after seeing her at Con-Stellation and DSC, I don't think it was much of a stretch ;-) ), and some other wacky characters. After that, the actual contestants started... * Cute little kid costumes. * A nice Princess Amidala gown, a Princess Leia, and a Jedi. * The dueling Boba Fetts entry was fun, with two guys dressed as the Star Wars character, where one whips out a guitar and starts playing Dueling Banjos. :-) * Leeloo from Fifth Element (very nice! ;-) ) * One of those Sand People from Star Wars -- there was a *lot* of Star Wars! * A buff, tentacled Jedi knight who had just added a new weapon to his arsenal -- a tight outfit and large codpiece! * Another funny one was a guy dressed in a white outfit, who was covered by mutant radioactive pollen spores, because he'd just escaped from the planet Clarinex. * An impressive costume of a fox-like Digimon. * A woman pirate, leaving my Dad wondering what pirates had to do
Weekly Chat Reminder
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Weekly Chat Reminder
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Re: Libertarian Purity Test
Kevin Tarr wrote: http://www.bcaplan.com/cgi/purity.cgi I had 40. Kevin T. - VRWC Failed again 41, even though a lot of the questions were pretty crappy. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer thruout Gov't
The Fool wrote a particular word every paragraph: FUCK FUCK SNIP I've heard claims that men think of sex every x-number of seconds. Is this proof? ;-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: America, land of the Ashcroft-haters
Robert Seeberger wrote: Quote: Bill Maher responded with the suggestion that the suicide hijackers of September 11th, 2001 were not cowardly because they stayed in the plane and died whereas the US military firing a cruise missile from 2000 miles away was cowardly. I uderstood it that way too. In particular, I though the comment was targeted at Clinton's actions, when he responded to the bombing of the Cole by flinging a couple of missiles at an Al Quaeda training camp, with no visible follow-through. A conservative wrote: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24606 Lay off Bill Maher. Debbie Schlussel One of PI's recurring guests, BTW. Julia Thompson wrote: And it was a really cool show, even when I thought that *everyone* was totally wrong on something. Agreed. I enjoyed the show from the moment I discovered it on Comedy Central all those years ago, until the final episode. I like Bill Maher, although I don't always agree with him. Plus, how many other network shows have SF writers like Ray Bradbury and Harlan Ellison as guests, and actually let them *talk* for more than a couple of minutes? The only other national show I can think of that did that was the late-night Tom Snyder show. I always hoped that they'd have Dr. Brin on Politically Incorrect. A discussion of Transparent Society would have been particularly interesting. Do you think it would have been shut down if it had still been on Comedy Central at that point? Anybody? Just curious. Probably not, because about the same time PI died on ABC, Comedy Central started airing Tough Crowd with Colin Quinn, a remarkably similar show. It's not as good as PI was, though, because it limits the guests to almost entirely standup comedians, and the discussions tend to have a lot less depth. It's the sort of show you'd get if PI and a comedy roast mated. ;-) __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Race to the Bottom
Gautam Mukunda wrote: Well, sort of. But it's already happened to secretaries, right? That's what voicemail/PIMs has done to that job. It's happened to a lot of manufacturing jobs - that's what automation has done. There's not any _conceptual_ difference between the two scenarios. Other than the amount of education/training required to learn to do the job that got replaced. A better analogy would probably be the highly trained artisans who lost their jobs to assembly line manufacturing. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
