Re: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick vs. Fuertes
Force of habit. There's a certain threshold of persistence required to accomplish an honorary name change, and the Cayuga Bird Club seems never to have risen to it. Even the club website refers to the place as Renwick Sanctuary, so club members can't be faulted for following along. Fuertes Sanctuary is a fine name, though, and perhaps the club should give another effort. Geo Kloppel Bowmaker Restorer 227 Tupper Rd Spencer NY 14883 607 564 7026 On May 8, 2012, at 8:26 AM, Matthew Medler m...@cornell.edu wrote: Hi All, The discovery of the Yellow-throated Warbler in the woods south of Stewart Park highlighted a question that I've wondered about for some time: why do most Ithaca birders refer to this area as Renwick Woods or Renwick Bird Sanctuary rather than Fuertes Bird Sanctuary? Based on the City of Ithaca's web site, it appears that the official name for this area is in fact Fuertes Bird Sanctuary: http://www.ci.ithaca.ny.us/parks/stewartpark.cfm Even putting this aside, it's always puzzled me that Ithaca birders would favor the name of an early Ithaca settler over Louis Agassiz Fuertes. Not only is Fuertes one of America's greatest bird artists, but he is also one of our most illustrious Ithaca birding ancestors, having been very active in the Cayuga Bird Club and the local birding community for many years. I would think that we would want to celebrate Fuertes's name and use it to refer to the bird sanctuary that was named in his memory after his untimely death. I am truly interested in learning why it is that so many use the name Renwick to refer to the Fuertes Bird Sanctuary. But, in the absence of any compelling reason for favoring Renwick over Fuertes, I'd also encourage birders to use the sanctuary's official name and honor Fuertes's legacy in the process. Matt Medler Ithaca -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[PMX:#] Re: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick vs. Fuertes
Having grown up in Ithaca and after 64 years it is hard to change old habits. Also some of us are resistant to change :?) Having said that here is a piece of Ithaca history that you might find interesting. In the late 1790s, Andrew Moodie received Military Lot No. 88 as part of his land grant after service in the Revolutionary War. James Renwick http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Renwick,_Jr., a prominent American architect, bought part of this grant. In the early 1890s, the Cascadilla School purchased forty acres of land to develop athletic facilities.Then a trolley line was constructed to the lake and the Cayuga Lake Electric Railway Company developed an amusement park. These forty acres and Port Renwick became Renwick Park, which opened in 1894 to the general public. In the early nineteen-teens, the Renwick Park and Traffic Association privately leased the park to the Wharton brothers to use as a film studio. The City purchased the park from the Renwick Park and Traffic Association in 1921. One month before the park's formal opening, Mayor Stewart died and the park was renamed Stewart Park in his honor. In the mid-twentieth century, the park contained a zoo, a merry-go-round, and the renovation of the dance pavilion for use as Ithaca's first vaudeville theater. In 1908, due to the decrease in ridership, the Cayuga Lake Electric Railway Company was dissolved and the Renwick Park and Traffic Association was formed to replace it. Sometime around 1915, trolley access to the park was discontinued. At this same time, 55 acres south of the park were set aside as a bird sanctuary and maintained by the Cayuga Bird Club.The area at the southeastern end of Cayuga Lake where Stewart Park and the Newman Municipal Golf Course was a marsh until the early twentieth century, when the marsh was filled in to extend available area for homes and businesses in the West End. In 1927 Fuertes died in an automobile accident in Ithaca. At that time he was the President of the Cayuga Bird Club. The club, in his honor, renamed this part of the Renwick Estate Fuertes Bird Sanctuary. So now you can see why there is some confusion, and now you know the rest of the story One more little bit of trivia that Dave Nutter reminded me of, The access to where the Yellow-throated Warbler was seen was the original access to Stewart Park. Rt. 13 as we know it now didn't exist until the early 1960s Carl Steckler -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [PMX:#] Re: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick vs. Fuertes
Thanks, Carl for the history lesson. I agree with you about the name. I've lived in the area nearly 51 yrs. have NEVER connected the name Fuertes with Renwick or Stewart because NO ONE ever, in my hearing, called it that, even the elderly woman I knew whose bro., a conductor on the trolley, was killed by a robber. And yes, the old entrance to Stewart Park was much different than today. Fritzie - Original Message - From: Carl Steckler To: cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 10:31 AM Subject: [PMX:#] Re: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick vs. Fuertes Having grown up in Ithaca and after 64 years it is hard to change old habits. Also some of us are resistant to change :?) Having said that here is a piece of Ithaca history that you might find interesting. In the late 1790s, Andrew Moodie received Military Lot No. 88 as part of his land grant after service in the Revolutionary War. James Renwick, a prominent American architect, bought part of this grant. In the early 1890s, the Cascadilla School purchased forty acres of land to develop athletic facilities.Then a trolley line was constructed to the lake and the Cayuga Lake Electric Railway Company developed an amusement park. These forty acres and Port Renwick became Renwick Park, which opened in 1894 to the general public. In the early nineteen-teens, the Renwick Park and Traffic Association privately leased the park to the Wharton brothers to use as a film studio. The City purchased the park from the Renwick Park and Traffic Association in 1921. One month before the park's formal opening, Mayor Stewart died and the park was renamed Stewart Park in his honor. In the mid-twentieth century, the park contained a zoo, a merry-go-round, and the renovation of the dance pavilion for use as Ithaca's first vaudeville theater. In 1908, due to the decrease in ridership, the Cayuga Lake Electric Railway Company was dissolved and the Renwick Park and Traffic Association was formed to replace it. Sometime around 1915, trolley access to the park was discontinued. At this same time, 55 acres south of the park were set aside as a bird sanctuary and maintained by the Cayuga Bird Club.The area at the southeastern end of Cayuga Lake where Stewart Park and the Newman Municipal Golf Course was a marsh until the early twentieth century, when the marsh was filled in to extend available area for homes and businesses in the West End. In 1927 Fuertes died in an automobile accident in Ithaca. At that time he was the President of the Cayuga Bird Club. The club, in his honor, renamed this part of the Renwick Estate Fuertes Bird Sanctuary. So now you can see why there is some confusion, and now you know the rest of the story One more little bit of trivia that Dave Nutter reminded me of, The access to where the Yellow-throated Warbler was seen was the original access to Stewart Park. Rt. 13 as we know it now didn't exist until the early 1960s Carl Steckler -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] My comments re: Renwick vs. Fuertes
Sorry for re-sending Carl's letter with my comments. -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Fuertes Birds Sanctuary article
I found an interesting article from the Cornell Daily Sun, Issue 128, 22 March, 1928, page 5, titled Fuertes Bird Sanctuary Will Represent Extensive Development of Stewart Park. Subtitle: Dredging on project to develop marshlands at head of Cayuga Lake in memorial to Louis A. Fuertes '97 begun last week... An architect's drawing is included. Jane Graves -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Hawthorn Orchard - 8 May 2012 - Rainy and Quiet
This morning, I decided to check out the Hawthorn Orchard, in the event of a potential fallout, despite the drizzle and wind. I birded there from about 8:00am to 8:45am. Highlights are below: 1 GREEN HERON (likely built a nest, growls heard and bird later seen in flight, SW corner near Shagbark Hickory) 3 House Wrens 1 SWAINSON'S THRUSH (middle of Northern side, about 150' South of the North ravine edge; foraging up in trees, mid-height; likely new overnight arrival) 1 WOOD THRUSH (singing just NE of NE corner) 6 Gray Catbirds 2 Nashville Warblers (no song, just giving pink notes - different from seet notes) 1 YELLOW WARBLER (likely a new arrival overnight, first in several days) 3 Magnolia Warblers 2 American Redstarts 3 Common Yellowthroats (missed the Wilson's Warbler, which was seen again today by Jay and Livia) 1 SWAMP SPARROW (just SSE of the fire hydrant field, this is likely an arrival from overnight, it has not been seen prior this season) (Zero White-throated Sparrows) 2 Baltimore Orioles 1 Purple Finch (flight song, over East Ithaca Recreation Way near NW entrance to Hawthorn Orchard) Meager list, but not bad considering the condtions. Good birding! Sincerely, Chris T-H -- Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes TARU Product Line Manager and Field Applications Engineer Bioacoustics Research Program, Cornell Lab of Ornithology 159 Sapsucker Woods Road, Ithaca, New York 14850 W: 607-254-2418 M: 607-351-5740 F: 607-254-1132 http://www.birds.cornell.edu/brp -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Stewart Park - Common Terns, Prairie Warbler
Hi all, Highlights at Stewart Park around 8:00-8:45 this morning included 8 COMMON TERNS on a log near the red lighthouse, 1 CLIFF SWALLOW with the dozens of (mostly Barn) swallows way offshore, and a Western PALM WARBLER singing in the willows along the shore near the tennis courts. No sign of either Cerulean or Yellow-throated in Renwick Fuertes, but it was raining pretty steadily at that point. Still, redstarts and Yellow-throated Vireos were singing. Livia and I checked Stewart Park again around 12:15 today and found even more terns--8 COMMON TERNS on the driftwood just offshore of the eastern tennis courts (just west of the dock) and another 6+ COMMON TERNS flying around over the water. The highlight for me a was a beautiful male PRAIRIE WARBLER singing sporadically and foraging in the willows along the shore by the tennis courts with PALM and YELLOW-RUMPED WARBLERS. This is only the second eBird record for Stewart Park, the only other one being from the same day in 2007. Here at the Lab, two WILSON'S WARBLERS and two NORTHERN PARULAS were the only birds of note on the Wilson Trail. A lot of CAPE MAY WARBLERS have been seen by various students on the Cornell Campus recently, especially in spruces around north campus. It was raining pretty steadily, but last night I was able to find a male foraging in a spruce along the eastern end of Wait Avenue just south of the Triphammer intersection. Good birding, -Jay -- Jay McGowan Macaulay Library Cornell Lab of Ornithology jw...@cornell.edu -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE:[cayugabirds-l] Fuertes Birds Sanctuary article
Thanks to Bill Hecht, I have placed his scan of said article here: http://www.northeastbirding.com/FuertesSanctuary.jpg After reading this article, it would appear that the Swan Pen is actually the Fuertes Memorial Bird Sanctuary, (a.k.a. Fuertes Sanctuary?), following the untimely death of Fuertes. The top listed name on the planning committee was none other than Arthur A. Allen (founder of the Lab of Ornithology and close friend of Fuertes's). This may suggest that the original Fuertes Sanctuary was indeed originally located at the Swan Pen area at Stewart Park...but, what about Renwick Sanctuary? What is the label on the cement archway at the old SE entrance to Renwick? I'm wondering when that was created and, if labeled Fuertes Sanctuary, why so? What happened to the Fuertes Memorial Bird Sanctuary and the seasonal museum in the old Cascadilla boat house as described in the article? Did that ever come to fruition? What about the stone masonry piers (sic) with Fuertes Memorial bronze tablets on East that were to be positioned immediately SE of the Swan Pen at Stewart Park (are they still there?)? Sincerely, Chris T-H -- Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes TARU Product Line Manager and Field Applications Engineer Bioacoustics Research Program, Cornell Lab of Ornithology 159 Sapsucker Woods Road, Ithaca, New York 14850 W: 607-254-2418 M: 607-351-5740 F: 607-254-1132 http://www.birds.cornell.edu/brp From: bounce-55993034-3488...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-55993034-3488...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Jane Graves Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:13 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Fuertes Birds Sanctuary article I found an interesting article from the Cornell Daily Sun, Issue 128, 22 March, 1928, page 5, titled Fuertes Bird Sanctuary Will Represent Extensive Development of Stewart Park. Subtitle: Dredging on project to develop marshlands at head of Cayuga Lake in memorial to Louis A. Fuertes '97 begun last week... An architect's drawing is included. Jane Graves -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fuertes Birds Sanctuary article
Chris wrote: After reading this article, it would appear that the “Swan Pen” is actually the Fuertes Memorial Bird Sanctuary Well that would certainly give us good excuse for having retained Renwick Sanctuary as the proper name for the woods! -Geo -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fuertes Birds Sanctuary article
Geo Kloppel Bowmaker Restorer 227 Tupper Rd Spencer NY 14883 607 564 7026 On May 8, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes c...@cornell.edu wrote: What is the label on the cement archway at the old SE entrance to Renwick? I’m wondering when that was created -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fuertes Birds Sanctuary article
Don't remember the name for certain, but I do recall that there's a date on it. On May 8, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes c...@cornell.edu wrote: What is the label on the cement archway at the old SE entrance to Renwick? I’m wondering when that was created -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fuertes Birds Sanctuary article
Rick wrote: I have a photo. I would love to work with Bird Club to restore the Arch. That ought to cement the proper name of the sanctuary into the minds of present-day club members! -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE:[cayugabirds-l] Fuertes Birds Sanctuary article
Where is Dorothy McIlroy when we need her? Marty From: bounce-56022117-3494...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-56022117-3494...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 2:26 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: RE:[cayugabirds-l] Fuertes Birds Sanctuary article Thanks to Bill Hecht, I have placed his scan of said article here: http://www.northeastbirding.com/FuertesSanctuary.jpg After reading this article, it would appear that the Swan Pen is actually the Fuertes Memorial Bird Sanctuary, (a.k.a. Fuertes Sanctuary?), following the untimely death of Fuertes. The top listed name on the planning committee was none other than Arthur A. Allen (founder of the Lab of Ornithology and close friend of Fuertes's). This may suggest that the original Fuertes Sanctuary was indeed originally located at the Swan Pen area at Stewart Park...but, what about Renwick Sanctuary? What is the label on the cement archway at the old SE entrance to Renwick? I'm wondering when that was created and, if labeled Fuertes Sanctuary, why so? What happened to the Fuertes Memorial Bird Sanctuary and the seasonal museum in the old Cascadilla boat house as described in the article? Did that ever come to fruition? What about the stone masonry piers (sic) with Fuertes Memorial bronze tablets on East that were to be positioned immediately SE of the Swan Pen at Stewart Park (are they still there?)? Sincerely, Chris T-H -- Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes TARU Product Line Manager and Field Applications Engineer Bioacoustics Research Program, Cornell Lab of Ornithology 159 Sapsucker Woods Road, Ithaca, New York 14850 W: 607-254-2418 M: 607-351-5740 F: 607-254-1132 http://www.birds.cornell.edu/brp From: bounce-55993034-3488...@list.cornell.edumailto:bounce-55993034-3488...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-55993034-3488...@list.cornell.edu]mailto:[mailto:bounce-55993034-3488...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Jane Graves Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:13 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Fuertes Birds Sanctuary article I found an interesting article from the Cornell Daily Sun, Issue 128, 22 March, 1928, page 5, titled Fuertes Bird Sanctuary Will Represent Extensive Development of Stewart Park. Subtitle: Dredging on project to develop marshlands at head of Cayuga Lake in memorial to Louis A. Fuertes '97 begun last week... An architect's drawing is included. Jane Graves -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE:[cayugabirds-l] Fuertes Birds Sanctuary article
I have been reading the e-mails on Fuertes vs Renwick Sanctuary. I was wondering how did or could Cayuga Bird Club rename a place by something else. Did they have to go through town administrators to change the name? Secondly, if CBC can give names could some one in future change the name to some other local well known Ornithologist or somebody else? This happens routinely in India. All the politicians end up getting something named after them and after their death next one come in line, when many places were named after something of local importance, either presence of nice tree, or a museum, temple or locations etc. I would have called it (Fuertes vs Renwick Sanctuary) Great Horned Owl Woods! Just some more fuel to the discussion :-) Meena Meena Haribal Ithaca NY 14850 http://haribal.org/ http://meenaharibal.blogspot.com/ -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fuertes Birds Sanctuary article
According to a hiker's account that I've come across, the inscription on the arch reads: Renwick Wildwood Sanctuary Cayuga Bird Club -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Renwick dedication 1917
An article appeared in the Ithaca Daily News, Monday evening June 11, 1917: BIRD CLUB GIVES ARCH TO THE CITY Several Hundred Attend Impressive Ceremony In Renwick Wildwood The arch at the entrance in the Renwick wild woods presented to the city by the Cayuga Bird Club was dedicated yesterday afternoon with appropriate exercises attended by about 250 people. The speakers were Professor John G. Needham [etc.] Goes on at length, with a description of presiding luminaries, and extensive biblical recitations. Geo Kloppel Bowmaker Restorer 227 Tupper Road Spencer NY 14883 607 564 7026 g...@cornell.edu geoklop...@gmail.com -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick dedication 1917
Cayuga Bird Club was formed by luminaries like Andrew White, Anna Comstock, James Needham and other Cornell related people. Andrew White was a President and I think Anna Comstock was secretary at one time. Bill Hecht has some old articles that he had sent to me. Some of these are (or were) in a file in CBC room at Lab of O. I am not sure if they still exists there or not. Meena Meena Haribal Ithaca NY 14850 http://haribal.org/ http://meenaharibal.blogspot.com/ From: bounce-56066033-3493...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-56066033-3493...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Geo Kloppel [geoklop...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 6:23 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick dedication 1917 An article appeared in the Ithaca Daily News, Monday evening June 11, 1917: BIRD CLUB GIVES ARCH TO THE CITY Several Hundred Attend Impressive Ceremony In Renwick Wildwood The arch at the entrance in the Renwick wild woods presented to the city by the Cayuga Bird Club was dedicated yesterday afternoon with appropriate exercises attended by about 250 people. The speakers were Professor John G. Needham [etc.] Goes on at length, with a description of presiding luminaries, and extensive biblical recitations. Geo Kloppel Bowmaker Restorer 227 Tupper Road Spencer NY 14883 607 564 7026 g...@cornell.edu geoklop...@gmail.com -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick vs. Fuertes
When Drew called me about the rare Yellow-throated Warbler, and I sent out the text message from my phone, I had to be concise but clear. "Fuertes" and "Renwick" are the same number of characters, but "Renwick" is, I think, a bit less ambiguous. "Renwick" refers to a couple streets in a neighborhood nearby, while I think there are several places named for Louis Agassiz Fuertes. Wasn't the pond- and feeder-viewing area inside the old Lab of O called the Fuertes Observatory? Isn't the auditorium at the current Lab which displays so many of his paintings also named for Fuertes? There are a couple of bronze plaques by the Swan Pond, one of which honors Fuertes, and the other talks about swans.Fuertes was a great artist, so I associate his name with his wonderful paintings and drawings more than with those woods. I see no disrespect in that. Official name or no, many people do and will call it the Renwick Sanctuary, including users of the new birding guide which the club just published (see p.21).--Dave NutterOn May 08, 2012, at 08:26 AM, Matthew Medler m...@cornell.edu wrote:Hi All,The discovery of the Yellow-throated Warbler in the woods south of Stewart Park highlighted a question that I've wondered about for some time: why do most Ithaca birders refer to this area as "Renwick Woods" or "Renwick Bird Sanctuary" rather than "Fuertes Bird Sanctuary?" Based on the City of Ithaca's web site, it appears that the official name for this area is in fact "Fuertes Bird Sanctuary":http://www.ci.ithaca.ny.us/parks/stewartpark.cfmEven putting this aside, it's always puzzled me that Ithaca birders would favor the name of an early Ithaca settler over Louis Agassiz Fuertes. Not only is Fuertes one of America's greatest bird artists, but he is also one of our most illustrious Ithaca birding ancestors, having been very active in the Cayuga Bird Club and the local birding community for many years. I would think that we would want to celebrate Fuertes's name and use it to refer to the bird sanctuary that was named in his memory after his untimely death.I am truly interested in learning why it is that so many use the name Renwick to refer to the Fuertes Bird Sanctuary. But, in the absence of any compelling reason for favoring Renwick over Fuertes, I'd also encourage birders to use the sanctuary's official name and honor Fuertes's legacy in the process.Matt MedlerIthaca -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick vs. Fuertes
This is from: New York: A Guide to the Empire State Compiled by Workers of the Writers' Program of the Works Progress Administration in the State of New York Copyright 1940 page 243 Stewart Park, at the head of Cayuga Lake, the principal public park of the city, includes a bathing beach with bathhouses, picnic grounds, athletic fields, a small zoo, and the Renwick Bird Sanctuary and Fuertes Wild Fowl Sanctuary, which provide refuge for more than 300 species of birds. These sanctuaries were made possible by gifts from local citizens and were developed with the co-operation of the Department of Ornithology of Cornell University. The memorial gateway at the waterfowl pond bears a bronze plaque in honor of Louis Agassiz Fuertes ... Jim From: bounce-56070042-3494...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-56070042-3494...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Dave Nutter [nutter.d...@me.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 6:30 PM To: Matthew Medler Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick vs. Fuertes When Drew called me about the rare Yellow-throated Warbler, and I sent out the text message from my phone, I had to be concise but clear. Fuertes and Renwick are the same number of characters, but Renwick is, I think, a bit less ambiguous. Renwick refers to a couple streets in a neighborhood nearby, while I think there are several places named for Louis Agassiz Fuertes. Wasn't the pond- and feeder-viewing area inside the old Lab of O called the Fuertes Observatory? Isn't the auditorium at the current Lab which displays so many of his paintings also named for Fuertes? There are a couple of bronze plaques by the Swan Pond, one of which honors Fuertes, and the other talks about swans. Fuertes was a great artist, so I associate his name with his wonderful paintings and drawings more than with those woods. I see no disrespect in that. Official name or no, many people do and will call it the Renwick Sanctuary, including users of the new birding guide which the club just published (see p.21). --Dave Nutter On May 08, 2012, at 08:26 AM, Matthew Medler m...@cornell.edu wrote: Hi All, The discovery of the Yellow-throated Warbler in the woods south of Stewart Park highlighted a question that I've wondered about for some time: why do most Ithaca birders refer to this area as Renwick Woods or Renwick Bird Sanctuary rather than Fuertes Bird Sanctuary? Based on the City of Ithaca's web site, it appears that the official name for this area is in fact Fuertes Bird Sanctuary: http://www.ci.ithaca.ny.us/parks/stewartpark.cfm Even putting this aside, it's always puzzled me that Ithaca birders would favor the name of an early Ithaca settler over Louis Agassiz Fuertes. Not only is Fuertes one of America's greatest bird artists, but he is also one of our most illustrious Ithaca birding ancestors, having been very active in the Cayuga Bird Club and the local birding community for many years. I would think that we would want to celebrate Fuertes's name and use it to refer to the bird sanctuary that was named in his memory after his untimely death. I am truly interested in learning why it is that so many use the name Renwick to refer to the Fuertes Bird Sanctuary. But, in the absence of any compelling reason for favoring Renwick over Fuertes, I'd also encourage birders to use the sanctuary's official name and honor Fuertes's legacy in the process. Matt Medler Ithaca -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3)
[cayugabirds-l] Male Blue Grosbeak
Just now (6:45PM) at our feeders in Danby. Life bird and yard bird in one. We saw the blue and snagged the bins and when it returned (here again right now} made a positive ID. Blue with some reddish cheek spots (1st year?), chestnut-red wing bars, an absolutely gorgeous bird! Lot of activity at the feeders including Baltimore Oriole (likes the orange halves we put out, and eats the suet too) -- asher -Never play it the same way once. -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick dedication 1917
At the dedication ceremony (June 10, 1917) the Cayuga Bird Club was represented by Louis A. Fuertes, who presented the new arch to the Mayor of Ithaca, Frederick E. Bates Meena wrote: Cayuga Bird Club was formed by luminaries like Andrew White, Anna Comstock, James Needham and other Cornell related people. -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick vs. Fuertes
So Matt's puzzler devolves to the question whether the Renwick Wildwood Sanctuary was actually renamed after the untimely death of L. A. Fuertes, or whether that claim only represents a garbled memory of the creation of the Fuertes Memorial Waterfowl Sanctuary (which we've forgetfully dubbed the 'swan pen') beside the Stewart Park boathouse. Might seem like a trivial question, but it would have to be resolved if the arch was going to be restored. Does the Cayuga Bird Club have archives from the late 1920s that could provide an answer? -Geo -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Night Movement of Birds - Now (5/8/2012 at 9:35pm)
I am recording and listening live right now in Etna, NY. There is a nice assortment of birds thus far: Veery, Rose-breasted Grosbeaks, Solitary Sandpiper, Warblers. Good birding! Sincerely, Chris T-H -- Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes TARU Product Line Manager and Field Applications Engineer Bioacoustics Research Program, Cornell Lab of Ornithology 159 Sapsucker Woods Road, Ithaca, New York 14850 W: 607-254-2418 M: 607-351-5740 F: 607-254-1132 http://www.birds.cornell.edu/brp -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick vs. Fuertes
I have been reading all of these posts with a great deal of interest. The 100th anniversary of the Cayuga Bird Club's founding will soon be upon us. It would be a wonderful project for club members to continue research into this history and come up with a plan to bring the names and honors into repair and visibility. I am hoping to hear from people who may want to join together and facilitate some progress in this direction Best Linda Orkin Current President of the Cayuga Bird Club. Sent from my iPhone On May 8, 2012, at 8:49 PM, geoklop...@gmail.com wrote: So Matt's puzzler devolves to the question whether the Renwick Wildwood Sanctuary was actually renamed after the untimely death of L. A. Fuertes, or whether that claim only represents a garbled memory of the creation of the Fuertes Memorial Waterfowl Sanctuary (which we've forgetfully dubbed the 'swan pen') beside the Stewart Park boathouse. Might seem like a trivial question, but it would have to be resolved if the arch was going to be restored. Does the Cayuga Bird Club have archives from the late 1920s that could provide an answer? -Geo -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Stewart Park - Common Terns, Prairie Warbler
I spent most of the morning in Stewart Park, Renwick Wildwoods, along the Cayuga Waterfront Trail by Pier Rd, along the east and north sides of Newman Golf Course, at the Cornell Biological Field Station (aka Jetty Woods), and even out to the lighthouse. It rained much of the time, which made using optics difficult, especially after the cloth I brought to dry the lenses became saturated. Here's some of my observations:* Renwick Jetty Woods have a zillion AMERICAN REDSTARTS singing in them, plus lots of other stuff, including WOOD THRUSHES and RED-EYED, WARBLING, and YELLOW-THROATED VIREOS.* A male BLUE-WINGED TEAL continues in Fall Creek by the bay midway along Renwick, and he was courting a female MALLARD.* From the White Lighthouse I was able to scope the platform on the pole in the field at Treman Marine Park: an adult OSPREY is in the nest, presumably incubating. This is my first confirmation of nesting there.* This reminds me, I think I neglected to post that on 29 April I was able to see the large dark head of a young BALD EAGLE in the nest near Glenwood Pines, so that nest was progressing too.* Viewed from the lighthouse the mix of swallows over the lake contained many BANK SWALLOWS.* There are still at least 3 COMMON LOONS at the south end of Cayuga Lake, 1 in non-breeding plumage, 2 in breeding plumage.* I heard my first-of-year BLACKPOLL WARBLER in Jetty Woods and my first-of-year WILSON'S WARBLER in Renwick.* I had a distant glimpse of a GREAT HORNED OWL flying in Renwick pursued by AMERICAN CROWS, but possibly flushed by me.* Finally in reference to Jay's note about North Campus sightings, I had to be at Cornell this afternoon with a few minutes to spare, and I quickly found a gorgeous male CAPE MAY WARBLER in a spruce behind 308 Wait Avenue. Thanks, Jay!--Dave NutterOn May 08, 2012, at 01:54 PM, Jay McGowan jw...@cornell.edu wrote:Hi all,Highlights at Stewart Park around 8:00-8:45 this morning included 8 COMMON TERNS on a log near the red lighthouse, 1 CLIFF SWALLOW with the dozens of (mostly Barn) swallows way offshore, and a Western PALM WARBLER singing in the willows along the shore near the tennis courts. No sign of either Cerulean or Yellow-throated in Renwick Fuertes, but it was raining pretty steadily at that point. Still, redstarts and Yellow-throated Vireos were singing. Livia and I checked Stewart Park again around 12:15 today and found even more terns--8 COMMON TERNS on the driftwood just offshore of the eastern tennis courts (just west of the dock) and another 6+ COMMON TERNS flying around over the water. The highlight for me a was a beautiful male PRAIRIE WARBLER singing sporadically and foraging in the willows along the shore by the tennis courts with PALM and YELLOW-RUMPED WARBLERS. This is only the second eBird record for Stewart Park, the only other one being from the same day in 2007. Here at the Lab, two WILSON'S WARBLERS and two NORTHERN PARULAS were the only birds of note on the Wilson Trail. A lot of CAPE MAY WARBLERS have been seen by various students on the Cornell Campus recently, especially in spruces around north campus. It was raining pretty steadily, but last night I was able to find a male foraging in a spruce along the eastern end of Wait Avenue just south of the Triphammer intersection. Good birding,-Jay-- Jay McGowanMacaulay LibraryCornell Lab of Ornithologyjw...@cornell.edu -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick vs. Fuertes
Hi Dave and All, I should have said this in my original message about Renwick vs. Fuertes, and that is that my message was not meant in any way to criticize you or anybody else for using the name Renwick for the area in question. I apologize if my message was taken as criticism of any sort--it was not intended in that way. And, I also should have thanked you for getting out the word about the Yellow-throated Warbler so quickly--it allowed me and several others to enjoy this nice bird. I also agree with your decision to use the term Renwick in your text message to describe where the bird was originally found. This seems to be the term that many (or most?) local birders currently use to describe this area, so using this name was undoubtedly the most effective way to help people find the bird. I have used the name Fuertes Sanctuary for many years (and raised this whole issue prior to the publication of the new birdfinding guide), but from a communication standpoint, there is not much point in using this name if it is not recognized by other birders. However, I am still puzzled as to why birders have not consistently used (let alone embraced) the name Fuertes Bird Sanctuary over the years. After all, we as a group seem quick to adopt new names (Fuller Wetlands), name changes (Park Preserve), and cumbersome names (Lindsay-Parsons Biodiversity Preserve) that lack a direct connection to our birding community. The name Fuertes Bird Sanctuary has existed for over 80 years, and yet, it appears to have been used sporadically at best. (It does appear in a few issues of The Kingbird from the 1950s...and the 1980s.) Perhaps this is due to confusion over what the name refers to. But, the City of Ithaca unambiguously uses the name Fuertes Bird Sanctuary for the wooded area south of Stewart Park, as does the Cayuga Waterfront Trail. It would be particularly interesting to learn why the City has applied this term to this specific area... Matt Medler Ithaca From: Dave Nutter nutter.d...@me.com To: Matthew Medler m...@cornell.edu Cc: cayugabirds-l cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Renwick vs. Fuertes When Drew called me about the rare Yellow-throated Warbler, and I sent out the text message from my phone, I had to be concise but clear. Fuertes and Renwick are the same number of characters, but Renwick is, I think, a bit less ambiguous. Renwick refers to a couple streets in a neighborhood nearby, while I think there are several places named for Louis Agassiz Fuertes. Wasn't the pond- and feeder-viewing area inside the old Lab of O called the Fuertes Observatory? Isn't the auditorium at the current Lab which displays so many of his paintings also named for Fuertes? There are a couple of bronze plaques by the Swan Pond, one of which honors Fuertes, and the other talks about swans. Fuertes was a great artist, so I associate his name with his wonderful paintings and drawings more than with those woods. I see no disrespect in that. Official name or no, many people do and will call it the Renwick Sanctuary, including users of the new birding guide which the club just published (see p.21). --Dave Nutter On May 08, 2012, at 08:26 AM, Matthew Medler m...@cornell.edu wrote: Hi All, The discovery of the Yellow-throated Warbler in the woods south of Stewart Park highlighted a question that I've wondered about for some time: why do most Ithaca birders refer to this area as Renwick Woods or Renwick Bird Sanctuary rather than Fuertes Bird Sanctuary? Based on the City of Ithaca's web site, it appears that the official name for this area is in fact Fuertes Bird Sanctuary: http://www.ci.ithaca.ny.us/parks/stewartpark.cfm Even putting this aside, it's always puzzled me that Ithaca birders would favor the name of an early Ithaca settler over Louis Agassiz Fuertes. Not only is Fuertes one of America's greatest bird artists, but he is also one of our most illustrious Ithaca birding ancestors, having been very active in the Cayuga Bird Club and the local birding community for many years. I would think that we would want to celebrate Fuertes's name and use it to refer to the bird sanctuary that was named in his memory after his untimely death. I am truly interested in learning why it is that so many use the name Renwick to refer to the Fuertes Bird Sanctuary. But, in the absence of any compelling reason for favoring Renwick over Fuertes, I'd also encourage birders to use the sanctuary's official name and honor Fuertes's legacy in the process. Matt Medler Ithaca -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME