Re: [ccp4bb] immobilized DNA resin

2011-04-11 Thread Phoebe Rice
As suggested, you can probably get good purification of heparin.
If your pet protein has a known specific binding site, you can make it a 
personalized column by PCR'ing up arrays of directly repeated binding sites.  
The repeats will mis-anneal in subsequent rounds, giving rise to longer and 
longer products.  If you use biotinylated primers, you can just stick the whole 
mess onto avidin beads.  We've only been desperate enough to do this once, but 
it worked nicely.
  Phoebe

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The University of Chicago
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 Original message 
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 01:05:56 -0400
From: CCP4 bulletin board CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK (on behalf of Zhijie Li 
zhijie...@utoronto.ca)
Subject: [ccp4bb] immobilized DNA resin  
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK

Hi,

I have never done this myself, but as far as I know, DNA can be directly 
conjugated through their primary amino groups to CNBr-activated beads or 
NHS-activated agarose beads. These beads are supplied by many companies: 
pierce, sigma, biorad, GE healthcare, etc.. - the same thing used for making 
protein-conjugated beads through amine coupling.

Unmodified DNA works, since the bases contain primary amines. In the early 
days some people just loaded denatured DNA onto CNBr-activated beads and 
then they would react. Here is one of the early papers:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1432-1033.1975.tb04151.x/pdf
My idea: if you generate sticky ends with some restriction enzymes or the 
Klenow fragment, it should help exposing the bases on the overhangs, then 
you should not need to denature the DNA and worry about all the crazy ways 
that the DNA sits on the beads.

Having said that, ideally, terminally amine-labeled oligos should be used 
whenever possible, as it is more likely to gives you higher degree of 
coupling and site-specific conjugation. Only one of the two chains needs the 
NH2 label, then the two complementary oligos can be annealed to make a 
one-end labeled dsDNA. When a longer piece is needed, the dsDNA can be 
generated by PCR with one 5'amine labeled primer and one regular primer. You 
can synthesize amine labeled oligos from most oligo synthesis facilities.

Here is a literature discussing such coupling through amine modified oligos:
http://www.plosbiology.org/article/info:doi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pbio.0020173#pbio-0020173-g003
Amine coupling is discussed in the part Oligonucleotide Hybridization 
Chromatography.

Zhijie


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 From: Alexandra Deaconescu deac...@brandeis.edu
 Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 8:44 PM
 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
 Subject: [ccp4bb] immobilized DNA resin

  Hello ccp4 enthusiasts:

 I am afraid this is a non-ccp4 related question. Can anyone recommend an 
 immobilized dsDNA chromatographic resin for purification of DNA-binding 
 proteins? GE seems to have something - I was wondering if people have 
 other recommendations? In the age of GST and His tags etc., these are not 
 very much used, but I do not have a tag in this case...

 Thanks a lot,
 Alex
 


Re: [ccp4bb] immobilized DNA resin

2011-04-11 Thread Nian Huang
Heparin simulates the structure of DNA and RNA, so it has nonspecific
affinity towards DNA or RNA binding protein. It has also been used as DNAse
or RNase inhibitor but it is not very good one.

Nian Huang, Ph.D.
UT Southwestern Medical Center

On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Alexandra Deaconescu
deac...@brandeis.eduwrote:

  Hello ccp4 enthusiasts:

 I am afraid this is a non-ccp4 related question. Can anyone recommend an
 immobilized dsDNA chromatographic resin for purification of DNA-binding
 proteins? GE seems to have something - I was wondering if people have other
 recommendations? In the age of GST and His tags etc., these are not very
 much used, but I do not have a tag in this case...

 Thanks a lot,
 Alex



Re: [ccp4bb] immobilized DNA resin

2011-04-11 Thread Jacob Keller
I wonder whether that is why it works as an anti-coagulant? Is it
mimicking nucleic acids? So then would DNA work as an anti-coagulant
as well...?

JPK

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Nian Huang huangn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Heparin simulates the structure of DNA and RNA, so it has nonspecific
 affinity towards DNA or RNA binding protein. It has also been used as DNAse
 or RNase inhibitor but it is not very good one.

 Nian Huang, Ph.D.
 UT Southwestern Medical Center

 On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Alexandra Deaconescu deac...@brandeis.edu
 wrote:

  Hello ccp4 enthusiasts:

 I am afraid this is a non-ccp4 related question. Can anyone recommend an
 immobilized dsDNA chromatographic resin for purification of DNA-binding
 proteins? GE seems to have something - I was wondering if people have other
 recommendations? In the age of GST and His tags etc., these are not very
 much used, but I do not have a tag in this case...

 Thanks a lot,
 Alex





-- 
***
Jacob Pearson Keller
Northwestern University
Medical Scientist Training Program
cel: 773.608.9185
email: j-kell...@northwestern.edu
***


Re: [ccp4bb] immobilized DNA resin

2011-04-10 Thread Garnett, James A
Hi Alex,

as you have a DNA binding protein does it have a high pI? If so, good old ion 
exchange with an S-sepharose column should do it.

Cheers

James

Dr James Garnett
Division of Molecular Biosciences, Imperial College London,
Level 5, Biochemistry Building,
South Kensington,
LONDON SW7 2AZ,
UK.

Tel: +44 (0) 207 594 5464
Fax: +44 (0) 207 594 3057

- Reply message -
From: Raji Edayathumangalam r...@brandeis.edu
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] immobilized DNA resin
Date: Sun, Apr 10, 2011 03:38



Hi Alex,

Most DNA-binding proteins has decent affinity to heparin columns. Have you 
tried purifying your protein over heparin columns?

Cheers,
Raji



On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Alexandra Deaconescu 
deac...@brandeis.edumailto:deac...@brandeis.edu wrote:
 Hello ccp4 enthusiasts:

I am afraid this is a non-ccp4 related question. Can anyone recommend an 
immobilized dsDNA chromatographic resin for purification of DNA-binding 
proteins? GE seems to have something - I was wondering if people have other 
recommendations? In the age of GST and His tags etc., these are not very much 
used, but I do not have a tag in this case...

Thanks a lot,
Alex



--

---
Raji Edayathumangalam
Research Fellow in Neurology, Harvard Medical School
Postdoctoral Fellow, Center for Neurologic Diseases, Brigham and Women's 
Hospital
Visiting Research Scholar, Brandeis University



Re: [ccp4bb] immobilized DNA resin

2011-04-10 Thread Jacob Keller
Related fact I learned recently, perhaps of interest for fellow record-keepers:

heparin sulfate has the highest negative charge density of any known
biological molecule.

JPK

On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Raji Edayathumangalam r...@brandeis.edu wrote:
 Hi Alex,

 Most DNA-binding proteins has decent affinity to heparin columns. Have you
 tried purifying your protein over heparin columns?

 Cheers,
 Raji



 On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Alexandra Deaconescu deac...@brandeis.edu
 wrote:

  Hello ccp4 enthusiasts:

 I am afraid this is a non-ccp4 related question. Can anyone recommend an
 immobilized dsDNA chromatographic resin for purification of DNA-binding
 proteins? GE seems to have something - I was wondering if people have other
 recommendations? In the age of GST and His tags etc., these are not very
 much used, but I do not have a tag in this case...

 Thanks a lot,
 Alex



 --

 ---
 Raji Edayathumangalam
 Research Fellow in Neurology, Harvard Medical School
 Postdoctoral Fellow, Center for Neurologic Diseases, Brigham and Women's
 Hospital
 Visiting Research Scholar, Brandeis University





-- 
***
Jacob Pearson Keller
Northwestern University
Medical Scientist Training Program
cel: 773.608.9185
email: j-kell...@northwestern.edu
***


Re: [ccp4bb] immobilized DNA resin

2011-04-10 Thread Dima Klenchin

heparin sulfate has the highest negative charge density of any known
biological molecule.


Seems to me that phytic acid (IP6, C6H6-(H2P04)6) and inositol 
heptakisphosphate (IP7) should have higher charge per mass and per volume.


 - Dima


Re: [ccp4bb] immobilized DNA resin

2011-04-10 Thread Jacob Keller
Hey, does Wikipedia lie? Also, the reference is to Lehninger's text,
although I did not verify it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heparin

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Dima Klenchin
klenc...@facstaff.wisc.edu wrote:

 heparin sulfate has the highest negative charge density of any known
 biological molecule.

 Seems to me that phytic acid (IP6, C6H6-(H2P04)6) and inositol
 heptakisphosphate (IP7) should have higher charge per mass and per volume.

  - Dima










-- 
***
Jacob Pearson Keller
Northwestern University
Medical Scientist Training Program
cel: 773.608.9185
email: j-kell...@northwestern.edu
***


[ccp4bb] immobilized DNA resin

2011-04-09 Thread Alexandra Deaconescu

 Hello ccp4 enthusiasts:

I am afraid this is a non-ccp4 related question. Can anyone recommend an 
immobilized dsDNA chromatographic resin for purification of DNA-binding 
proteins? GE seems to have something - I was wondering if people have 
other recommendations? In the age of GST and His tags etc., these are 
not very much used, but I do not have a tag in this case...


Thanks a lot,
Alex


Re: [ccp4bb] immobilized DNA resin

2011-04-09 Thread Raji Edayathumangalam
Hi Alex,

Most DNA-binding proteins has decent affinity to heparin columns. Have you
tried purifying your protein over heparin columns?

Cheers,
Raji



On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Alexandra Deaconescu
deac...@brandeis.eduwrote:

  Hello ccp4 enthusiasts:

 I am afraid this is a non-ccp4 related question. Can anyone recommend an
 immobilized dsDNA chromatographic resin for purification of DNA-binding
 proteins? GE seems to have something - I was wondering if people have other
 recommendations? In the age of GST and His tags etc., these are not very
 much used, but I do not have a tag in this case...

 Thanks a lot,
 Alex




-- 

---
Raji Edayathumangalam
Research Fellow in Neurology, Harvard Medical School
Postdoctoral Fellow, Center for Neurologic Diseases, Brigham and Women's
Hospital
Visiting Research Scholar, Brandeis University


[ccp4bb] immobilized DNA resin

2011-04-09 Thread Zhijie Li

Hi,

I have never done this myself, but as far as I know, DNA can be directly 
conjugated through their primary amino groups to CNBr-activated beads or 
NHS-activated agarose beads. These beads are supplied by many companies: 
pierce, sigma, biorad, GE healthcare, etc.. - the same thing used for making 
protein-conjugated beads through amine coupling.


Unmodified DNA works, since the bases contain primary amines. In the early 
days some people just loaded denatured DNA onto CNBr-activated beads and 
then they would react. Here is one of the early papers:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1432-1033.1975.tb04151.x/pdf
My idea: if you generate sticky ends with some restriction enzymes or the 
Klenow fragment, it should help exposing the bases on the overhangs, then 
you should not need to denature the DNA and worry about all the crazy ways 
that the DNA sits on the beads.


Having said that, ideally, terminally amine-labeled oligos should be used 
whenever possible, as it is more likely to gives you higher degree of 
coupling and site-specific conjugation. Only one of the two chains needs the 
NH2 label, then the two complementary oligos can be annealed to make a 
one-end labeled dsDNA. When a longer piece is needed, the dsDNA can be 
generated by PCR with one 5'amine labeled primer and one regular primer. You 
can synthesize amine labeled oligos from most oligo synthesis facilities.


Here is a literature discussing such coupling through amine modified oligos:
http://www.plosbiology.org/article/info:doi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pbio.0020173#pbio-0020173-g003
Amine coupling is discussed in the part Oligonucleotide Hybridization 
Chromatography.


Zhijie



--
From: Alexandra Deaconescu deac...@brandeis.edu
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 8:44 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] immobilized DNA resin


 Hello ccp4 enthusiasts:

I am afraid this is a non-ccp4 related question. Can anyone recommend an 
immobilized dsDNA chromatographic resin for purification of DNA-binding 
proteins? GE seems to have something - I was wondering if people have 
other recommendations? In the age of GST and His tags etc., these are not 
very much used, but I do not have a tag in this case...


Thanks a lot,
Alex