RE: Access on CFMX Linux?

[Brian Scandale]

Perhaps just dump the subscriber list to a csv file, and use that as the input to your 
app... Assuming it's a once a month affair it could work.



At 11:14 PM 7/9/02, you wrote:
>Thanks Matt, Peter for your advise.
>
>The situation I'm in is my customer is given MS Access databases which
>contains subscribers' info. He needs to use the data to generate
>newsletter emails to these subscribers. Unfortunately, the hosting setup
>is on Linux and that's what I was concerned about. Part of my app will
>be to to read in targeted subscribers in the database and send the email
>newsletter out. From your responses, does that mean the best way would
>be to migrate the data from the MS Access database to MySQL/Postgres
>everytime?
>
>Thank you and regards
>David Siew
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>Sent: 10 July 2002 13:47
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: Access on CFMX Linux?
>
>
>Generally speaking, nothing should be referred to as a database unless
>it is ACID compliant. MySQL is not ACID compliant therefore it makes
>more sense to think of it as a SQL interface to a file system than a
>database.
>
>Matt Liotta
>President & CEO
>Montara Software, Inc.
>http://www.montarasoftware.com/
>V: 415-577-8070
>F: 415-341-8906
>P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Tilbrook, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:26 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: Access on CFMX Linux?
>> 
>> Like MySQL
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, 10 July 2002 3:20 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: Access on CFMX Linux?
>> 
>> 
>> Well, yes and no. It is possible to run MS Access using Wine, but I
>would
>> highly recommend against it. If you are just looking for a cheap (free
>> even)
>> database that is easy to use and works with CFMX then check out some
>of
>> the
>> open source databases.
>> 
>> Matt Liotta
>> President & CEO
>> Montara Software, Inc.
>> http://www.montarasoftware.com/
>> V: 415-577-8070
>> F: 415-341-8906
>> P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: David Siew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:25 PM
>> > To: CF-Talk
>> > Subject: Access on CFMX Linux?
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Sorry. I havent got experience with CF on Linux.
>> >
>> > Is there anyway that I can set up a MS Access database as a
>datasource
>> > on a Linux server installed with CFMX? Any advise is much
>appreciated.
>> >
>> > Thank you and regards
>> > David
>> >
>> >
>> 
>> 
>
>
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RE: Access on CFMX Linux?

[Brian Scandale]

Yeah, perhaps true but truthfully mySQL smokes as a readonly filesystem... Different 
tools for different problems.

Hey while you're at it maybe one of you geniuses can help me get my head around my 
problem with CFMX vs CFM5 causing a "Refresh to Repost the Form Data" notice on the 
exact same code but with only the server being different.

I have a two urls available I can send off list to test with if you think you might 
have an idea.  The current discussions today (RE: CFMX caching...) give insight but 
still no Cigar!

Any takers?


At 11:28 PM 7/9/02, you wrote:
>You may be shocked to realize that I disagree. While conforming to the
>exact definition of an RDBMS doesn't require one to be ACID compliant,
>it is assumed that ACID compliance is a standard feature of a database.
>If you want to debate on definitions then surely I would lose. However,
>if you take a look at the expectations of database customers, you will
>see that ACID compliance is assumed. Thus, any RDBMS that isn't ACID
>compliant should be pointed out as such to keep people from finding out
>the hardware.
>
>If you want to talk theory a little then you might look at what
>functionality differentiates a database from a file system. You might be
>surprised to learn that MySQL is closer to a SQL front-ended file system
>than the traditional idea of a database. Again, ACID compliance being
>the main difference.
>
>For those interested in history, you might check out MySQL's roots.
>Again you will see that MySQL started out as a really complex file
>system that is slowly making its way towards that of a traditional
>database.
>
>Matt Liotta
>President & CEO
>Montara Software, Inc.
>http://www.montarasoftware.com/
>V: 415-577-8070
>F: 415-341-8906
>P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 11:21 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: Access on CFMX Linux?
>> 
>> > Generally speaking, nothing should be referred to as a
>> > database unless it is ACID compliant.
>> 
>> That seems like an awfully stringent definition. How do you justify
>that
>> restriction on a common term of art which generally is interpreted
>pretty
>> broadly? There are lots of databases that aren't adequate for handling
>> transactions, but that doesn't mean they're not databases. They might
>not
>> be
>> GOOD databases, but that's another thing entirely.
>> 
>> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>> http://www.figleaf.com/
>> voice: (202) 797-5496
>> fax: (202) 797-5444
>> 
>
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RE: Access on CFMX Linux?

[Matt Liotta]

You may be shocked to realize that I disagree. While conforming to the
exact definition of an RDBMS doesn't require one to be ACID compliant,
it is assumed that ACID compliance is a standard feature of a database.
If you want to debate on definitions then surely I would lose. However,
if you take a look at the expectations of database customers, you will
see that ACID compliance is assumed. Thus, any RDBMS that isn't ACID
compliant should be pointed out as such to keep people from finding out
the hardware.

If you want to talk theory a little then you might look at what
functionality differentiates a database from a file system. You might be
surprised to learn that MySQL is closer to a SQL front-ended file system
than the traditional idea of a database. Again, ACID compliance being
the main difference.

For those interested in history, you might check out MySQL's roots.
Again you will see that MySQL started out as a really complex file
system that is slowly making its way towards that of a traditional
database.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
V: 415-577-8070
F: 415-341-8906
P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 11:21 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Access on CFMX Linux?
> 
> > Generally speaking, nothing should be referred to as a
> > database unless it is ACID compliant.
> 
> That seems like an awfully stringent definition. How do you justify
that
> restriction on a common term of art which generally is interpreted
pretty
> broadly? There are lots of databases that aren't adequate for handling
> transactions, but that doesn't mean they're not databases. They might
not
> be
> GOOD databases, but that's another thing entirely.
> 
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> voice: (202) 797-5496
> fax: (202) 797-5444
> 
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cfparam using CGI variables

[Whiterod, David (PLNSA)]

Hi,

Please exuse this humble question about cfparam.

I have an app where I want a server name variable to be optionally supplied
to a template via the url.

i.e.

somepage.cfm?server=myserver.com.au

If this parameter is not supplied I would like to default to the current
server name (stored in CGI.SERVER_NAME).

My question is can I use CFDEFAULT to to this.

i.e.



I ask because I will not be able to test this until tonight (I only have a
production only environment current - so this kind of limits my testing
ablilty and I don't what to break stuff).

Cheers

David
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RE: Access on CFMX Linux?

[Dave Watts]

> Generally speaking, nothing should be referred to as a 
> database unless it is ACID compliant.

That seems like an awfully stringent definition. How do you justify that
restriction on a common term of art which generally is interpreted pretty
broadly? There are lots of databases that aren't adequate for handling
transactions, but that doesn't mean they're not databases. They might not be
GOOD databases, but that's another thing entirely.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202) 797-5444
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RE: Access on CFMX Linux?

[David Siew]

Thanks Matt, Peter for your advise.

The situation I'm in is my customer is given MS Access databases which
contains subscribers' info. He needs to use the data to generate
newsletter emails to these subscribers. Unfortunately, the hosting setup
is on Linux and that's what I was concerned about. Part of my app will
be to to read in targeted subscribers in the database and send the email
newsletter out. From your responses, does that mean the best way would
be to migrate the data from the MS Access database to MySQL/Postgres
everytime?

Thank you and regards
David Siew


-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 10 July 2002 13:47
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Access on CFMX Linux?


Generally speaking, nothing should be referred to as a database unless
it is ACID compliant. MySQL is not ACID compliant therefore it makes
more sense to think of it as a SQL interface to a file system than a
database.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
V: 415-577-8070
F: 415-341-8906
P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: Tilbrook, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:26 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Access on CFMX Linux?
> 
> Like MySQL
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, 10 July 2002 3:20 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Access on CFMX Linux?
> 
> 
> Well, yes and no. It is possible to run MS Access using Wine, but I
would
> highly recommend against it. If you are just looking for a cheap (free
> even)
> database that is easy to use and works with CFMX then check out some
of
> the
> open source databases.
> 
> Matt Liotta
> President & CEO
> Montara Software, Inc.
> http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> V: 415-577-8070
> F: 415-341-8906
> P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: David Siew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:25 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Access on CFMX Linux?
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Sorry. I havent got experience with CF on Linux.
> >
> > Is there anyway that I can set up a MS Access database as a
datasource
> > on a Linux server installed with CFMX? Any advise is much
appreciated.
> >
> > Thank you and regards
> > David
> >
> >
> 
> 

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Re: onTap chat room...

[Chris Montgomery]

Isaac,

SID> http://www.turnkey.to/talkontap

SID> It's the first commercial release.

Still can't get the chat box to display in Moz 1.0. Is this something
you're working on?

-- 
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Web Development, Web Project Management, Software Sales
210-490-3249/888-745-7603

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RE: Access on CFMX Linux?

[Matt Liotta]

Generally speaking, nothing should be referred to as a database unless
it is ACID compliant. MySQL is not ACID compliant therefore it makes
more sense to think of it as a SQL interface to a file system than a
database.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
V: 415-577-8070
F: 415-341-8906
P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: Tilbrook, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:26 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Access on CFMX Linux?
> 
> Like MySQL
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, 10 July 2002 3:20 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Access on CFMX Linux?
> 
> 
> Well, yes and no. It is possible to run MS Access using Wine, but I
would
> highly recommend against it. If you are just looking for a cheap (free
> even)
> database that is easy to use and works with CFMX then check out some
of
> the
> open source databases.
> 
> Matt Liotta
> President & CEO
> Montara Software, Inc.
> http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> V: 415-577-8070
> F: 415-341-8906
> P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: David Siew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:25 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Access on CFMX Linux?
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Sorry. I havent got experience with CF on Linux.
> >
> > Is there anyway that I can set up a MS Access database as a
datasource
> > on a Linux server installed with CFMX? Any advise is much
appreciated.
> >
> > Thank you and regards
> > David
> >
> >
> 
> 
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RE: Macromedia DevCon 2002

[Mike Brunt]

Todd, I was a presenter back in 2000 in DC.  All the rooms I presented in or
attended were well mice'd and I am pretty certain hearing what was said was
clear in all parts of the rooms.  As Ben said the rooms are usually of many
different sizes.  I can't think of a better place to meet the luminaries and
see what is planned for the future.  I really enjoyed the ones I went to and
if time permits intend to go this year, (we're just very busy at present).

Mike Brunt - CTO
Webapper Services LLC
http://www.webapper.com
Downey CA Office
562.243.6255

"Making the NET Work"

-Original Message-
From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 6:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Macromedia DevCon 2002


I'm seriously considering scraping my own money to go, however... before I
commit I'd like to ask those people that have gone to these things in the
past.

I have a slight hearing impairment and was wondering how big the rooms are,
how many people are in it ... are the speakers mic'ed up and such?  Not
really interested in shelling out money if all I'm going to hear is a bunch
of mumbling speakers.  Hopefully someone can relate...

Thanks,
~Todd


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RE: Access on CFMX Linux?

[Tilbrook, Peter]

Like MySQL

-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, 10 July 2002 3:20 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Access on CFMX Linux?


Well, yes and no. It is possible to run MS Access using Wine, but I would
highly recommend against it. If you are just looking for a cheap (free even)
database that is easy to use and works with CFMX then check out some of the
open source databases.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
V: 415-577-8070
F: 415-341-8906
P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: David Siew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:25 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Access on CFMX Linux?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Sorry. I havent got experience with CF on Linux.
> 
> Is there anyway that I can set up a MS Access database as a datasource 
> on a Linux server installed with CFMX? Any advise is much appreciated.
> 
> Thank you and regards
> David
> 
> 

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RE: Access on CFMX Linux?

[Matt Liotta]

Well, yes and no. It is possible to run MS Access using Wine, but I
would highly recommend against it. If you are just looking for a cheap
(free even) database that is easy to use and works with CFMX then check
out some of the open source databases.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
V: 415-577-8070
F: 415-341-8906
P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: David Siew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:25 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Access on CFMX Linux?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Sorry. I havent got experience with CF on Linux.
> 
> Is there anyway that I can set up a MS Access database as a datasource
> on a Linux server installed with CFMX? Any advise is much appreciated.
> 
> Thank you and regards
> David
> 
> 
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Re: Skimmin the list.......? [oT]

[Brian Scandale]

Way to go critz... Yep. I got the same Spam today too.

At 04:16 PM 7/9/02, you wrote:
>oi CF-Talk,!!
>
>  I  use  this  addy  only  for this list. (almost positive) today I received an
>  email to it from:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  (The Recruitment Consultant)
>
>  someone here sucking off the list ?
>
>-- 
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>Certified Advanced Bald White Barefoot ColdFusion Developer
>
>Crit[s2k] - 
>
>
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Access on CFMX Linux?

[David Siew]

Hi all,

Sorry. I havent got experience with CF on Linux.

Is there anyway that I can set up a MS Access database as a datasource
on a Linux server installed with CFMX? Any advise is much appreciated.

Thank you and regards
David

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SOT: internet.com - Macromedia Unveils New Communications Server

[Tilbrook, Peter]

http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/10792_1382281

==
Peter Tilbrook
ColdFusion Applications Developer
Defence Housing Authority
26 Brisbane Ave
Barton ACT 2600
AUSTRALIA

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Fax: 02 6217 8500
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RE: Accessing a dll on client machine

[Kwang Suh]

Oh yeah, forgot about that.  Have a muffin :)

> -Original Message-
> From: Lewis Sellers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:18 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Accessing a dll on client machine
> 
> 
> On Tue, 09 Jul 2002 11:28:19 -0600, in cf-talk you wrote:
> 
> >ActiveX will do what you need.  The user will get a slew of warnings 
> >however (unless they've set their security differently).
> 
> Unless you pay a couple hundred a year for a security certificate for
> your business AND write the ActiveX to promise windows it's SAFE
> (there's a couple methods to do that -- IObjectSafety, etc).
> 
> Then you only get the one dialog box under the default IE settings.
> 
> --min
> 
> 
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RE: cf and xml

[Tony Weeg]

like this...

















-Original Message-
From: Timothy Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 12:24 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cf and xml


Use cfsavecontent wrapped around whatever code you use to generate the
xml
document.  Then use the variable produced as the cffile output.

Tim

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 12:21 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cf and xml


ok, question guys and gals

i would like to write the contents of an xml document, based on user
input from some form elements.

is the cffile tag what i need to use? so that the structure is what
i am looking for? or is there a better method. i played with it tonight
however i am unable to use cf tags or " quotation marks within the
output
parameter of the cffile tag.  that severely limits what i am able to
create.

can anyone add some insight into this?

thanks!

tony

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410.334.6331



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RE: Skimmin the list.......? [oT]

[Kwang Suh]

Oh carp, there goes my nice shiny new email address.

Now I have to deal with transvestite donkeys.  Sigh.

> -Original Message-
> From: Critter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 5:16 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Skimmin the list...? [oT]
> 
> 
> oi CF-Talk,!!
> 
>   I  use  this  addy  only  for this list. (almost positive) 
> today I received an
>   email to it from:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  (The Recruitment Consultant)
> 
>   someone here sucking off the list ?
> 
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> 
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> 
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RE: cf and xml

[Timothy Heald]

Use cfsavecontent wrapped around whatever code you use to generate the xml
document.  Then use the variable produced as the cffile output.

Tim

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 12:21 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cf and xml


ok, question guys and gals

i would like to write the contents of an xml document, based on user
input from some form elements.

is the cffile tag what i need to use? so that the structure is what
i am looking for? or is there a better method. i played with it tonight
however i am unable to use cf tags or " quotation marks within the
output
parameter of the cffile tag.  that severely limits what i am able to
create.

can anyone add some insight into this?

thanks!

.tony

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cf and xml

[Tony Weeg]

ok, question guys and gals

i would like to write the contents of an xml document, based on user
input from some form elements.

is the cffile tag what i need to use? so that the structure is what
i am looking for? or is there a better method. i played with it tonight
however i am unable to use cf tags or " quotation marks within the
output
parameter of the cffile tag.  that severely limits what i am able to
create.

can anyone add some insight into this?

thanks!

..tony

tony weeg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.revolutionwebdesign.com
rEvOlUtIoN wEb DeSiGn
410.334.6331 

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Re: Accessing a dll on client machine

[Lewis Sellers]

On Tue, 09 Jul 2002 11:28:19 -0600, in cf-talk you wrote:

>ActiveX will do what you need.  The user will get a slew of warnings 
>however (unless they've set their security differently).

Unless you pay a couple hundred a year for a security certificate for
your business AND write the ActiveX to promise windows it's SAFE
(there's a couple methods to do that -- IObjectSafety, etc).

Then you only get the one dialog box under the default IE settings.

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RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

[dev]

>>I doubt that you can do this without some assistance from the intervening
>>page. While browsers have a history object,
<<<

>>> > I currently use #CGI.HTTP_REFERER# to see the last page my user came
>>> > from, is there a way to look back 2 pages?<<<

This is not exactly the same thing, but the following does access the
history object successfully. I don't know JavaScript that well, but it's not
a stretch to think you could access and capture the url.

This may help too:
http://www.dannyg.com/javascript/quickref/index.html

HTH

-Craig





GO BACK




function goHistory(form)
{

window.history.go(parseInt(form.num.value));
}









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RE: CFMX caching...

[MW]

I am no master of the http protocol. It is very interesting that you
have isolated everything down to the CF 5 and CF MX servers. How
different is the actual html file -- just a little whitespace? I expect
that this can't be the cause.

It has to be some difference in the http communication itself, which
leads me to think that it is not curable. Here is a tool called
TracePlus32 Web Detective 2.20 on download.com that can be used in
demo-mode and may help.

http://download.com.com/3000-2068-10110784.html?tag=lst-0-1

"TracePlus32 Web Detective is a trace/analysis tool specifically
designed for Web development. The Web Detective decodes the HTTP
protocol and displays it in an easy to understand format."

Running a side by side analysis might give us some answers. Even still,
I'd be willing to bet some users of your site had this problem, it just
wasn't 100% of the time. At our company, maybe 3 people have it 100% and
3 people never, and 8 people intermittently.

Matt
--
Matt Wisdom
CTO
Turbo Squid 

> -Original Message-
> From: Brian Scandale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:28 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CFMX caching...
> 
> At 07:12 PM 7/9/02, you wrote:
> >I can give you the definitive answer on this after much research. It
is
> >caused by the following:
> >
> >1) The user submits a form as a 'post'
> >2) The browser displays the results of the post
> >3) The user goes to another page
> >4) The user hits the back button to return to the results page from
the
> >post
> >5) The browser has dropped the page from its cache
> >6) Wisely, the browser asks you if you would like to re-post the form
> >vars that generated the results page. If it automatically did this
for
> >you, it could trigger repurchases and all other kinds of mayhem.
> 
> Yes... I understand the above... I only put the
javascript:history.back(); in places
> where it makes sense to use it.
> 
> The problem is repeatable ... the EXACT same code using the EXACT same
> computer & browser against CF5 does not ask to repost while against
CFMX it
> does.
> 
> Looking at the headers shows them to be IDENTICAL... unless you are
referring to
> header information that is not displayed using ViewSource.
> 
> I'm WAY stumped.
> 
> 
> >The simplest solution to this is to change your form to 'get' instead
of
> >'post'. This will cause the browser to change all of your form vars
to
> >url vars on the fly. Thus when the user hits the back button, if the
> >page is no longer cached the browser will reload it without issuing
the
> >workflow-killing refresh error because there is assumed to be no
chance
> >(by convention) of danger. This solution is quite simple and is
employed
> >by ebay. The only limit I know of is url length, which I found to be
for
> >IE 6 about 1250 characters (I forget the exact figure).
> 
> Could work on some pages... Unfortunately some forms hold 100 plus
hidden
> fields.
> 
> 
> >There is another way to approach this, to use a javascript trick to
try
> >to change order of the results page in the browser's history so that
it
> >gets confused and will re-post the form without asking permission. I
> >haven't tried this and I can't speak to whether or not it works.
> 
> Interesting... but would rather just find the cause and set the
appropriate switches
> to make it stop happening.
> 
> 
> 
> >So, the reason why this intermittent plague of non-cached form
results
> >happens is related to either 1) the browser version of the user and
when
> >it decides to purge its cache, or 2) the headers and/or meta tags
> >returned by the server which help it make that decision. While some
> >browsers give this error 100% of the time, others do it every now and
> >then, and typically longer into a browsing session. My assumption is
> >that MX has a different header which is causing a different action by
> >the browser, although you might have just changed out your browser
> >without realizing it. For reference, Netscape and Mozilla have this
> >behavior, too. It is the natural and correct behavior once the cache
has
> >been purged. The optimal solution is getting the browser to always
cache
> >*your* server's pages, but killing the error is the second best
option.
> >
> >To research further yourself, search in google groups with the text
of
> >your warning. There are hundreds of people asking this very same
> >question.
> >
> >Matt
> >--
> >Matt Wisdom
> >CTO
> >Turbo Squid
> >
> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Brian Scandale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:39 PM
> >> To: CF-Talk
> >> Subject: CFMX caching...
> >>
> >> I switched to CFMX a few days ago...
> >>
> >> Suddenly (when clicking back) Many pages declare the Warning: Page
has
> >> Expired. The page you requested was created using information you
> >submitted in a
> >> form. This page is no longer available.
> >>
> >> To resubmit your information and view this Web page, click the
Refresh
> >button.
> >>
> >>

RE: onTap chat room...

[S . Isaac Dealey]

> Hey,
>   I have been watching this thread some, but not seen
>   mention of either a URL
> or FTP addy to grab and or demo this at.  Is it a beta
> test or something?

Oh hey Tim ... Sorry about that, I prolly could do a better job of repeating
it. :)

http://www.turnkey.to/talkontap

It's the first commercial release. the past couple days have been beta
testing. :) It was just something I figured I could do quickly ( built in a
weekend ) and add features gradually and maybe bring in a little extra
income while I was at it... It turned out to be both easier and harder than
I'd expected in many ways...


Isaac

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RE: Regular Expressions/Speed

[S . Isaac Dealey]

> Oops.  Gulp.  (And other sounds of cringing terror.)
> Er...what's a regex library?

You're using the default regex library that's native to whatever version of
CF you're using... I've heard that the regex libraries in cfmx are better --
not having the 2000 character limitation and possibly faster and closer in
practice to PERL's interpretation of the syntax. There were some complaints
about regex in previous versions of CF server although I never had any
problems with it personally... You had to occasionally get creative if you
suspected there might be a chance the string would be over 2000
characters... and then you'd wonder "is my script going to chop something in
half that would otherwise be seen by the regex?" ... I'm not sure about
optimizations specifically -- I'm usually happy to have it working. :)
Though if you need to validate a short variable with exacting standards (
like a url, email address, etc ), it's certainly going to be a lot faster
than performing a bucket-full of other evaluations of length, data type,
etc... development time may be similar depending on your comfortability with
regex tho. :)

Isaac

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RE: onTap chat room...

[Timothy Heald]

Hey,
I have been watching this thread some, but not seen mention of either a URL
or FTP addy to grab and or demo this at.  Is it a beta test or something?

Tim

-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 11:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: onTap chat room...


> One interesting thing - if two messages are sent at the
> same time, they end up appending - like this:
>
> 07:58:26 [Steini -> tsherr] I wonder if you can change the
> look and feel07:58:27 [tsherr] I'm not sure if that is healthy. :)
>
> I can see that being a problem with a lot of people
> chatting.

I got the fix for this in now. :) Plus I fixed the whisper-deselect
problem... wow that was a holy nightmare ... you cant just use
object.setSelectedIndex(-1) or (null) as would be logical for JavaScript --
Flash either ignores the statement or chokes... turns out the only way to
deselect an item in the list box is to empty the list box and rebuild all
the entries ... in any event, it's fixed now...

I also added to the demo an example of how to include navigation element(s)
so that users may move between rooms and linking on the fly, so
http://mydomain.com or www.mydomain.com or [EMAIL PROTECTED] will all be
converted into links when a message is sent... this is an optional feature
you can turn off... There's a new attribute also called opMode which is
intended to allow the app to be moded to work in a particular way, such as
"speed" which would optimize for speed at the possible expense of certain
other things ... at the moment it's just at the expense of some entries in
the history not having proper line-breaks the way they should... Preserving
the line-breaks requires slightly more work from CF server on each refresh.

Anyway, I'm rambling now... :)

I hope everyone enjoys the chat... Please let me know if you have any
feature suggestions or if you have any problems with it.

p.s. What were you not sure was healthy? I'm guessing it wasn't changing the
look and feel. :)

Isaac

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RE: onTap chat room...

[S . Isaac Dealey]

> One interesting thing - if two messages are sent at the
> same time, they end up appending - like this:
>
> 07:58:26 [Steini -> tsherr] I wonder if you can change the
> look and feel07:58:27 [tsherr] I'm not sure if that is healthy. :)
>
> I can see that being a problem with a lot of people
> chatting.

I got the fix for this in now. :) Plus I fixed the whisper-deselect
problem... wow that was a holy nightmare ... you cant just use
object.setSelectedIndex(-1) or (null) as would be logical for JavaScript --
Flash either ignores the statement or chokes... turns out the only way to
deselect an item in the list box is to empty the list box and rebuild all
the entries ... in any event, it's fixed now...

I also added to the demo an example of how to include navigation element(s)
so that users may move between rooms and linking on the fly, so
http://mydomain.com or www.mydomain.com or [EMAIL PROTECTED] will all be
converted into links when a message is sent... this is an optional feature
you can turn off... There's a new attribute also called opMode which is
intended to allow the app to be moded to work in a particular way, such as
"speed" which would optimize for speed at the possible expense of certain
other things ... at the moment it's just at the expense of some entries in
the history not having proper line-breaks the way they should... Preserving
the line-breaks requires slightly more work from CF server on each refresh.

Anyway, I'm rambling now... :)

I hope everyone enjoys the chat... Please let me know if you have any
feature suggestions or if you have any problems with it.

p.s. What were you not sure was healthy? I'm guessing it wasn't changing the
look and feel. :)

Isaac

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RE: Skimmin the list.......? [oT]

[Tilbrook, Peter]

Here! Here!

I get enough spam as it is!

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Re: Skimmin the list.......? [oT]

[Howie Hamlin]

They could also be using the archives for skimming...

- Original Message -
From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: Skimmin the list...? [oT]


> I'll check out if this group is subscribed and remove them. I'll also ban the domain 
>from the list. SKIMMING IS NOT
ALLOWED HERE. I find out the name of the person who uses this list for spam the world 
will know it and he'll be
blacklisted from any resource I have any connection with.
>


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Re: Skimmin the list.......? [oT]

[Michael Dinowitz]

I'll check out if this group is subscribed and remove them. I'll also ban the domain 
from the list. SKIMMING IS NOT ALLOWED HERE. I find out the name of the person who 
uses this list for spam the world will know it and he'll be blacklisted from any 
resource I have any connection with. 

> oi CF-Talk,!!
> 
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>   email to it from:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  (The Recruitment Consultant)
> 
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> 
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> 
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RE: onTap chat room...

[S . Isaac Dealey]

> Btw, Isaac?  It's working @ work now (WinNT, IE6) as well.
> Weird thing tho, twice that I've been on, someone always
> signs out just when I sign on .. sup with that?  Am I that much
> of a beast to talk too? ;)

Nah... users who've closed the browser get expired and removed from the
users list for the room on each refresh ( sent from within the talkontap.swf
movie ), however, when you log in, your own info is added to the users list
prior to your first refresh, so what happens is the enter message gets
posted, then on your first pass it checks for people who are idle past the
timeout duration and removes them from the user list and posts their part
messages... So if one or two people leave the room or close the browser
quickly, the room could be vacant for any length of time before you enter,
at which point it purges their user info. So those folks who're splitting
when you enter may have actually left quite some time ago. The application
is on a 30 minute timout, but people come and go from different rooms, so
you may be seeing people who left hours ago.

Hope you enjoy it. :)

Isaac

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RE: CFMX caching...

[Brian Scandale]

At 07:12 PM 7/9/02, you wrote:
>I can give you the definitive answer on this after much research. It is
>caused by the following:
>
>1) The user submits a form as a 'post'
>2) The browser displays the results of the post
>3) The user goes to another page
>4) The user hits the back button to return to the results page from the
>post
>5) The browser has dropped the page from its cache
>6) Wisely, the browser asks you if you would like to re-post the form
>vars that generated the results page. If it automatically did this for
>you, it could trigger repurchases and all other kinds of mayhem.

Yes... I understand the above... I only put the javascript:history.back(); in places 
where it makes sense to use it.

The problem is repeatable ... the EXACT same code using the EXACT same computer & 
browser against CF5 does not ask to repost while against CFMX it does.

Looking at the headers shows them to be IDENTICAL... unless you are referring to 
header information that is not displayed using ViewSource.

I'm WAY stumped. 


>The simplest solution to this is to change your form to 'get' instead of
>'post'. This will cause the browser to change all of your form vars to
>url vars on the fly. Thus when the user hits the back button, if the
>page is no longer cached the browser will reload it without issuing the
>workflow-killing refresh error because there is assumed to be no chance
>(by convention) of danger. This solution is quite simple and is employed
>by ebay. The only limit I know of is url length, which I found to be for
>IE 6 about 1250 characters (I forget the exact figure).

Could work on some pages... Unfortunately some forms hold 100 plus hidden fields.


>There is another way to approach this, to use a javascript trick to try
>to change order of the results page in the browser's history so that it
>gets confused and will re-post the form without asking permission. I
>haven't tried this and I can't speak to whether or not it works.

Interesting... but would rather just find the cause and set the appropriate switches 
to make it stop happening.



>So, the reason why this intermittent plague of non-cached form results
>happens is related to either 1) the browser version of the user and when
>it decides to purge its cache, or 2) the headers and/or meta tags
>returned by the server which help it make that decision. While some
>browsers give this error 100% of the time, others do it every now and
>then, and typically longer into a browsing session. My assumption is
>that MX has a different header which is causing a different action by
>the browser, although you might have just changed out your browser
>without realizing it. For reference, Netscape and Mozilla have this
>behavior, too. It is the natural and correct behavior once the cache has
>been purged. The optimal solution is getting the browser to always cache
>*your* server's pages, but killing the error is the second best option.
>
>To research further yourself, search in google groups with the text of
>your warning. There are hundreds of people asking this very same
>question.
>
>Matt
>--
>Matt Wisdom
>CTO
>Turbo Squid
>
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Brian Scandale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:39 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: CFMX caching...
>> 
>> I switched to CFMX a few days ago...
>> 
>> Suddenly (when clicking back) Many pages declare the Warning: Page has
>> Expired. The page you requested was created using information you
>submitted in a
>> form. This page is no longer available.
>> 
>> To resubmit your information and view this Web page, click the Refresh
>button.
>> 
>> 
>> This is NEW behavior in just the last few days and I am having trouble
>tracking it
>> down.
>> 
>> I have pulled out all the META caching tags like:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> but I am still getting all the Warnings.
>> 
>> Prior to CFMX I had no problems backing up across the pages... Anyone
>know
>> what might be doing this?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Brian
>> 
>> 
>> 
>
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RE: Macromedia DevCon 2002

[Ben Forta]

Todd,

The rooms are all different sizes, depending on the audience size. All
speakers where mics, and attendees also have printouts of slides to
follow along with.

--- Ben


-Original Message-
From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Macromedia DevCon 2002


I'm seriously considering scraping my own money to go, however... before
I 
commit I'd like to ask those people that have gone to these things in
the past.

I have a slight hearing impairment and was wondering how big the rooms
are, 
how many people are in it ... are the speakers mic'ed up and such?  Not 
really interested in shelling out money if all I'm going to hear is a
bunch 
of mumbling speakers.  Hopefully someone can relate...

Thanks,
~Todd


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RE: ANNOUNCE: Axis beta-3 version ready for download

[Matt Liotta]

I haven't tried upgrading CFMX with the latest Axis beta yet, but it is
on the task list this month. That should be plenty of time to figure out
how to do it before Axis 1.0 is complete.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
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F: 415-341-8906
P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:45 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: ANNOUNCE: Axis beta-3 version ready for download
> 
> *gulp*
> 
> Have u tried it ? lol
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:11 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: FW: ANNOUNCE: Axis beta-3 version ready for download
> 
> See below. This looks like a good time to find out how upgradeable the
> version of Axis that ships with CFMX is.
> 
> Matt Liotta
> President & CEO
> Montara Software, Inc.
> http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> V: 415-577-8070
> F: 415-341-8906
> P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Glen Daniels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 3:45 PM
> To: Axis-Dev (E-mail); '[EMAIL PROTECTED]';
> '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]';
> '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: ANNOUNCE: Axis beta-3 version ready for download
> 
> 
> Hi all you SOAP fans out there!
> 
> Apache Axis (http://xml.apache.org/axis) has just released our third
> beta, on our way to a 1.0 release this summer.
> 
> Axis:
> 
> * Is a flexible, extensible Web Services framework for Java
developers.
> * Has an almost complete implementation of Sun's JAX-RPC and SAAJ
> specifications
>   (we are currently working on passing the compatibility tests)
> * Is easy to use (including "instant deployment" by dropping a Java
> source file
>   into a webapp)
> * Supports bidirectional WSDL<->Java generation, both via command line
> tools
>   and automatically in the runtime
> * Contains support for the new version of the DIME specification for
>   attachments
> * Contains preliminary SOAP 1.2 support (this should be fleshed out by
> the
>   next release)
> 
> To download the release, you can visit
> http://xml.apache.org/axis/dist/beta3.
> 
> Please check it out, and send feedback to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> --The Axis Team
> 
> 
> 
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RE: ANNOUNCE: Axis beta-3 version ready for download

[Stacy Young]

*gulp*

Have u tried it ? lol


-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:11 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: FW: ANNOUNCE: Axis beta-3 version ready for download

See below. This looks like a good time to find out how upgradeable the
version of Axis that ships with CFMX is.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
V: 415-577-8070
F: 415-341-8906
P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Glen Daniels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 3:45 PM
To: Axis-Dev (E-mail); '[EMAIL PROTECTED]';
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]';
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: ANNOUNCE: Axis beta-3 version ready for download


Hi all you SOAP fans out there!

Apache Axis (http://xml.apache.org/axis) has just released our third
beta, on our way to a 1.0 release this summer.

Axis:

* Is a flexible, extensible Web Services framework for Java developers.
* Has an almost complete implementation of Sun's JAX-RPC and SAAJ
specifications
  (we are currently working on passing the compatibility tests)
* Is easy to use (including "instant deployment" by dropping a Java
source file
  into a webapp)
* Supports bidirectional WSDL<->Java generation, both via command line
tools
  and automatically in the runtime
* Contains support for the new version of the DIME specification for
  attachments
* Contains preliminary SOAP 1.2 support (this should be fleshed out by
the
  next release)

To download the release, you can visit
http://xml.apache.org/axis/dist/beta3.

Please check it out, and send feedback to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks!

--The Axis Team


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RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

[mark brinkworth]

I doubt that you can do this without some assistance from the intervening 
page. While browsers have a history object, this is usually not available 
for extracting information from. Users are hesitant enough about the 
browsing history within a given site, let alone across multiple sites.

Cheers


>From: "Jim Vosika" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER
>Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:03:45 -0500
>
>I mean for pages out of my control. Like say the user first goes to a
>google result page then clicks through to some website where there is a
>link to me. This is a bad example but I would want to see the google
>url.
>
>Thanks,
>Jim Vosika
>http://tinyclick.com
>Free URL Shortening!
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:15 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER
>
>Save it as a variable?
>
>Pete
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Jim Vosika" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 6:19 PM
>Subject: CGI.HTTP_REFERER
>
>
> > I currently use #CGI.HTTP_REFERER# to see the last page my user came
> > from, is there a way to look back 2 pages?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Jim Vosika
> > http://www.softwaresupermall.com
> > http://www.jimvosika.com
> >
> >
>
>
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RE: CFMX caching...

[MW]

I can give you the definitive answer on this after much research. It is
caused by the following:

1) The user submits a form as a 'post'
2) The browser displays the results of the post
3) The user goes to another page
4) The user hits the back button to return to the results page from the
post
5) The browser has dropped the page from its cache
6) Wisely, the browser asks you if you would like to re-post the form
vars that generated the results page. If it automatically did this for
you, it could trigger repurchases and all other kinds of mayhem.

The simplest solution to this is to change your form to 'get' instead of
'post'. This will cause the browser to change all of your form vars to
url vars on the fly. Thus when the user hits the back button, if the
page is no longer cached the browser will reload it without issuing the
workflow-killing refresh error because there is assumed to be no chance
(by convention) of danger. This solution is quite simple and is employed
by ebay. The only limit I know of is url length, which I found to be for
IE 6 about 1250 characters (I forget the exact figure).

There is another way to approach this, to use a javascript trick to try
to change order of the results page in the browser's history so that it
gets confused and will re-post the form without asking permission. I
haven't tried this and I can't speak to whether or not it works.

So, the reason why this intermittent plague of non-cached form results
happens is related to either 1) the browser version of the user and when
it decides to purge its cache, or 2) the headers and/or meta tags
returned by the server which help it make that decision. While some
browsers give this error 100% of the time, others do it every now and
then, and typically longer into a browsing session. My assumption is
that MX has a different header which is causing a different action by
the browser, although you might have just changed out your browser
without realizing it. For reference, Netscape and Mozilla have this
behavior, too. It is the natural and correct behavior once the cache has
been purged. The optimal solution is getting the browser to always cache
*your* server's pages, but killing the error is the second best option.

To research further yourself, search in google groups with the text of
your warning. There are hundreds of people asking this very same
question.

Matt
--
Matt Wisdom
CTO
Turbo Squid



> -Original Message-
> From: Brian Scandale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:39 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: CFMX caching...
> 
> I switched to CFMX a few days ago...
> 
> Suddenly (when clicking back) Many pages declare the Warning: Page has
> Expired. The page you requested was created using information you
submitted in a
> form. This page is no longer available.
> 
> To resubmit your information and view this Web page, click the Refresh
button.
> 
> 
> This is NEW behavior in just the last few days and I am having trouble
tracking it
> down.
> 
> I have pulled out all the META caching tags like:
> 
> 
> 
> but I am still getting all the Warnings.
> 
> Prior to CFMX I had no problems backing up across the pages... Anyone
know
> what might be doing this?
> 
> Thanks,
> Brian
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Skimmin the list.......? [oT]

[Brad Roberts]

me too

Brad

> -Original Message-
> From: Timothy Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 8:11 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Skimmin the list...? [oT]
> 
> 
> Hey,
>   Just got the same one.
> 
>   I hate spammers.
> 
> Tim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Critter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:16 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Skimmin the list...? [oT]
> 
> 
> oi CF-Talk,!!
> 
>   I  use  this  addy  only  for this list. (almost positive) today I
> received an
>   email to it from:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  (The Recruitment Consultant)
> 
>   someone here sucking off the list ?
> 
> --
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> 
> 
> 
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RE: Regular Expressions/Speed

[Cornillon, Matthieu]

Oops.  Gulp.  (And other sounds of cringing terror.)  Er...what's a regex
library?

Matthieu

-Original Message-
From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:55 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Regular Expressions/Speed


What regex library are you using? That's the defining factor --the parser.
Just like xml parsers are different so are regex libs/utilities.

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Cornillon, Matthieu wrote:

> Does anyone have anything concrete to say about the speed of searching
using
> regular expressions?  Are giant RegExes a mistake?  I am hardly seeing any
> performance hit at all right now with mine, which is quite big.  Of
course,
> I am not live with piles of simultaneous users, either.  Am I going to hit
> trouble?  Does anyone have any feedback on optimization of RegExes (i.e.,
is
> on(click|mouseup|mousedown) much different from
> onclick|onmousedown|onmouseup from on(click|(mouse(up|down)))?
>
> TIA,
> Matthieu
> 

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RE: CMemoryException

[Mark A. Kruger - CFG]

Yeah - this is one of the lovely messages I've seen coming from query of a
query - informative eh?  Something is wrong with your query syntax I'll
wager.

-mk

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 3:05 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CMemoryException


Has anyone seen this before?

CMemoryException: unknown cause

PCodeRuntimeContextImp::executeSQLTagCFQuery::endTag


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Macromedia DevCon 2002

[Todd]

I'm seriously considering scraping my own money to go, however... before I 
commit I'd like to ask those people that have gone to these things in the past.

I have a slight hearing impairment and was wondering how big the rooms are, 
how many people are in it ... are the speakers mic'ed up and such?  Not 
really interested in shelling out money if all I'm going to hear is a bunch 
of mumbling speakers.  Hopefully someone can relate...

Thanks,
~Todd


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Re: Regular Expressions/Speed

[Alex]

What regex library are you using? That's the defining factor --the parser.
Just like xml parsers are different so are regex libs/utilities.

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Cornillon, Matthieu wrote:

> Does anyone have anything concrete to say about the speed of searching using
> regular expressions?  Are giant RegExes a mistake?  I am hardly seeing any
> performance hit at all right now with mine, which is quite big.  Of course,
> I am not live with piles of simultaneous users, either.  Am I going to hit
> trouble?  Does anyone have any feedback on optimization of RegExes (i.e., is
> on(click|mouseup|mousedown) much different from
> onclick|onmousedown|onmouseup from on(click|(mouse(up|down)))?
>
> TIA,
> Matthieu
> 
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Regular Expressions/Speed

[Cornillon, Matthieu]

Does anyone have anything concrete to say about the speed of searching using
regular expressions?  Are giant RegExes a mistake?  I am hardly seeing any
performance hit at all right now with mine, which is quite big.  Of course,
I am not live with piles of simultaneous users, either.  Am I going to hit
trouble?  Does anyone have any feedback on optimization of RegExes (i.e., is
on(click|mouseup|mousedown) much different from
onclick|onmousedown|onmouseup from on(click|(mouse(up|down)))?

TIA,
Matthieu
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FW: ANNOUNCE: Axis beta-3 version ready for download

[Matt Liotta]

See below. This looks like a good time to find out how upgradeable the
version of Axis that ships with CFMX is.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
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http://www.montarasoftware.com/
V: 415-577-8070
F: 415-341-8906
P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Glen Daniels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 3:45 PM
To: Axis-Dev (E-mail); '[EMAIL PROTECTED]';
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]';
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: ANNOUNCE: Axis beta-3 version ready for download


Hi all you SOAP fans out there!

Apache Axis (http://xml.apache.org/axis) has just released our third
beta, on our way to a 1.0 release this summer.

Axis:

* Is a flexible, extensible Web Services framework for Java developers.
* Has an almost complete implementation of Sun's JAX-RPC and SAAJ
specifications
  (we are currently working on passing the compatibility tests)
* Is easy to use (including "instant deployment" by dropping a Java
source file
  into a webapp)
* Supports bidirectional WSDL<->Java generation, both via command line
tools
  and automatically in the runtime
* Contains support for the new version of the DIME specification for
  attachments
* Contains preliminary SOAP 1.2 support (this should be fleshed out by
the
  next release)

To download the release, you can visit
http://xml.apache.org/axis/dist/beta3.

Please check it out, and send feedback to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks!

--The Axis Team

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CFMX caching...

[Brian Scandale]

I switched to CFMX a few days ago...

Suddenly (when clicking back) Many pages declare the Warning: Page has Expired. The 
page you requested was created using information you submitted in a form. This page is 
no longer available. 

To resubmit your information and view this Web page, click the Refresh button. 


This is NEW behavior in just the last few days and I am having trouble tracking it 
down.

I have pulled out all the META caching tags like: 



but I am still getting all the Warnings.

Prior to CFMX I had no problems backing up across the pages... Anyone know what might 
be doing this?

Thanks,
Brian


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re: Search Engine-Friendly URLs

[Todd]

Your right, I get the 500 server error from Apache, not the 404 error. =)

~Todd

At 08:05 PM 7/9/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>For Apache 1.x (don't know about 2) you have to add the following 
>directive to the [virtual] host setup:
>
>ScriptAliasMatch (.*\.cfm) "c:/site_root$1"
>
>where c:/site_root is the physical path to your site.  This will "enable" 
>the CGI.SCRIPT_NAME variable so it contains the full extended path info 
>for .cfm requests.
>
>However not having this setting should not cause 404 errors, so you 
>probably have other issues as well.
>
>HTH,
>-Max
>
>
>
>At 7/9/2002 04:30 PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >FYI, since this has come up and someone has mentioned Apache, has anyone
> >gotten this to work on Apache without having to use mod_rewrite?  As it
> >stands right now, I can't get apache to accept the subsitution of ? for /
> >without Apache throwing me a 404 error... Anyone know how to configure
> >Apache for this?  I'd appreciate it.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >~Todd
>
>
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RE: Skimmin the list.......? [oT]

[Timothy Heald]

Hey,
Just got the same one.

I hate spammers.

Tim

-Original Message-
From: Critter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Skimmin the list...? [oT]


oi CF-Talk,!!

  I  use  this  addy  only  for this list. (almost positive) today I
received an
  email to it from:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  (The Recruitment Consultant)

  someone here sucking off the list ?

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Certified Advanced Bald White Barefoot ColdFusion Developer

Crit[s2k] - 


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re: Search Engine-Friendly URLs

[Max Paperno]

For Apache 1.x (don't know about 2) you have to add the following directive to the 
[virtual] host setup:

ScriptAliasMatch (.*\.cfm) "c:/site_root$1"

where c:/site_root is the physical path to your site.  This will "enable" the 
CGI.SCRIPT_NAME variable so it contains the full extended path info for .cfm requests.

However not having this setting should not cause 404 errors, so you probably have 
other issues as well.

HTH,
-Max



At 7/9/2002 04:30 PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>FYI, since this has come up and someone has mentioned Apache, has anyone 
>gotten this to work on Apache without having to use mod_rewrite?  As it 
>stands right now, I can't get apache to accept the subsitution of ? for / 
>without Apache throwing me a 404 error... Anyone know how to configure 
>Apache for this?  I'd appreciate it.
>
>Thanks,
>~Todd

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RE: Javescript help

[Matthew Walker]

Check this out 
http://www.webreference.com/js/column5/
:-)

> -Original Message-
> From: Bruce, Rodney S HQISEC/SIGNAL
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: mercredi 10 juillet 2002 11:56
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Javescript help
> 
> 
> getting closer anyway
> document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value.replace(/[0-9]/, '')
> will replace the first non number.
> 
> thanks for the start
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 4:38 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Javescript help
> 
> 
> REReplaceNoCase() is a CF function. Regex in JS works something like
> this: 
> 
> document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value =
> document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value.replace('[0-9]', '')
> 
> But I'm no expert. A JS list could help you.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bruce, Rodney S HQISEC/SIGNAL
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: mercredi 10 juillet 2002 11:29
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Javescript help
> > 
> > 
> > I am trying to write it in javascript, but am not getting the 
> > JS reg exp
> > right.
> > and maybe confusion the regexp.
> > 
> > My code was:
> > 
> >function enterbldgnum() {
> > document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value =
> > REReplaceNoCase(document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value, 
> >  "[:digit:]", "", "All");
> >  }
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > which has no CF in it (well maybe the REReplaceNoCase()).
> >  it is not.
> > this function is with all the rest of the JS functions at the 
> > top of my
> > page.
> > I am far from an expert(or I wouldn't need this help), but I 
> > do know the
> > differnce between CF and JS and were they run.
> > 
> > So my question still stands how would I get this to work in JS?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Matthew Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 4:17 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Javescript help
> > 
> > 
> > You are confusing server-side (CF) and client-side (JS). 
> While you can
> > mix CF and JS together, you need to understand how it 
> works. The CF is
> > processed in entirety before the page loads. So you can use 
> > it to insert
> > values into JS variables for example, or to dynamically build 
> > different
> > JS code. But CF cannot access client-side variables such as
> > document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value . 
> > 
> > JS has regular expression parsing so perhaps you can 
> rewrite it all in
> > JS.
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Bruce, Rodney S HQISEC/SIGNAL
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: mercredi 10 juillet 2002 11:05
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: OT: Javescript help
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hello all
> > > 
> > > I am missing something to get this javascript to work, hoping 
> > > someone can
> > > help.
> > > 
> > > Am just trying to remove all but numbers from a form field 
> > > and then enter
> > > the new var into a differnt field.
> > > 
> > > I have tried:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > function enterbldgnum() {
> > >   document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value =
> > > REReplaceNoCase(document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value, 
> > > "[:digit:]", "", "All");
> > > }
> > > 
> > > function enterbldgnum() {
> > >   x = document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value;
> > >   document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value = REReplaceNoCase(x, 
> > > "[:digit:]",
> > > "", "All");
> > > }
> > > 
> > > function enterbldgnum() {
> > >   x = REReplaceNoCase("22we445rt", "[:digit:]", "", "All");
> > >   document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value = x;
> > > }
> > > 
> > > function enterbldgnum() {
> > >   x = document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value;
> > >   REReplaceNoCase(x, "[:digit:]", "", "All");
> > >   document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value = x;
> > > }
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > All get the same error "object expected", for the 
> > > REReplaceNoCase line.
> > > this simple check works(just making sure all my names were 
> > > good and function
> > > was being called)
> > > 
> > > function enterbldgnum() {
> > >   document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value = 
> > > document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value;
> > > }
> > > 
> > > 
> > > What am I missing?
> > > Thanks
> > > Rodney
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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RE: Javescript help

[Bruce, Rodney S HQISEC/SIGNAL]

getting closer anyway
document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value.replace(/[0-9]/, '')
will replace the first non number.

thanks for the start

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 4:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Javescript help


REReplaceNoCase() is a CF function. Regex in JS works something like
this: 

document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value =
document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value.replace('[0-9]', '')

But I'm no expert. A JS list could help you.

> -Original Message-
> From: Bruce, Rodney S HQISEC/SIGNAL
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: mercredi 10 juillet 2002 11:29
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Javescript help
> 
> 
> I am trying to write it in javascript, but am not getting the 
> JS reg exp
> right.
> and maybe confusion the regexp.
> 
> My code was:
> 
>function enterbldgnum() {
>   document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value =
> REReplaceNoCase(document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value, 
>  "[:digit:]", "", "All");
>  }
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
>   
> 
> 
> 
> which has no CF in it (well maybe the REReplaceNoCase()).
>  it is not.
> this function is with all the rest of the JS functions at the 
> top of my
> page.
> I am far from an expert(or I wouldn't need this help), but I 
> do know the
> differnce between CF and JS and were they run.
> 
> So my question still stands how would I get this to work in JS?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 4:17 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Javescript help
> 
> 
> You are confusing server-side (CF) and client-side (JS). While you can
> mix CF and JS together, you need to understand how it works. The CF is
> processed in entirety before the page loads. So you can use 
> it to insert
> values into JS variables for example, or to dynamically build 
> different
> JS code. But CF cannot access client-side variables such as
> document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value . 
> 
> JS has regular expression parsing so perhaps you can rewrite it all in
> JS.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bruce, Rodney S HQISEC/SIGNAL
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: mercredi 10 juillet 2002 11:05
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: OT: Javescript help
> > 
> > 
> > Hello all
> > 
> > I am missing something to get this javascript to work, hoping 
> > someone can
> > help.
> > 
> > Am just trying to remove all but numbers from a form field 
> > and then enter
> > the new var into a differnt field.
> > 
> > I have tried:
> > 
> > 
> > function enterbldgnum() {
> > document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value =
> > REReplaceNoCase(document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value, 
> > "[:digit:]", "", "All");
> > }
> > 
> > function enterbldgnum() {
> > x = document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value;
> > document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value = REReplaceNoCase(x, 
> > "[:digit:]",
> > "", "All");
> > }
> > 
> > function enterbldgnum() {
> > x = REReplaceNoCase("22we445rt", "[:digit:]", "", "All");
> > document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value = x;
> > }
> > 
> > function enterbldgnum() {
> > x = document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value;
> > REReplaceNoCase(x, "[:digit:]", "", "All");
> > document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value = x;
> > }
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > All get the same error "object expected", for the 
> > REReplaceNoCase line.
> > this simple check works(just making sure all my names were 
> > good and function
> > was being called)
> > 
> > function enterbldgnum() {
> > document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value = 
> > document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value;
> > }
> > 
> > 
> > What am I missing?
> > Thanks
> > Rodney
> > 
> > 
> 
> 

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RE: Javescript help

[Matthew Walker]

REReplaceNoCase() is a CF function. Regex in JS works something like
this: 

document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value =
document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value.replace('[0-9]', '')

But I'm no expert. A JS list could help you.

> -Original Message-
> From: Bruce, Rodney S HQISEC/SIGNAL
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: mercredi 10 juillet 2002 11:29
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Javescript help
> 
> 
> I am trying to write it in javascript, but am not getting the 
> JS reg exp
> right.
> and maybe confusion the regexp.
> 
> My code was:
> 
>function enterbldgnum() {
>   document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value =
> REReplaceNoCase(document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value, 
>  "[:digit:]", "", "All");
>  }
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
>   
> 
> 
> 
> which has no CF in it (well maybe the REReplaceNoCase()).
>  it is not.
> this function is with all the rest of the JS functions at the 
> top of my
> page.
> I am far from an expert(or I wouldn't need this help), but I 
> do know the
> differnce between CF and JS and were they run.
> 
> So my question still stands how would I get this to work in JS?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 4:17 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Javescript help
> 
> 
> You are confusing server-side (CF) and client-side (JS). While you can
> mix CF and JS together, you need to understand how it works. The CF is
> processed in entirety before the page loads. So you can use 
> it to insert
> values into JS variables for example, or to dynamically build 
> different
> JS code. But CF cannot access client-side variables such as
> document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value . 
> 
> JS has regular expression parsing so perhaps you can rewrite it all in
> JS.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bruce, Rodney S HQISEC/SIGNAL
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: mercredi 10 juillet 2002 11:05
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: OT: Javescript help
> > 
> > 
> > Hello all
> > 
> > I am missing something to get this javascript to work, hoping 
> > someone can
> > help.
> > 
> > Am just trying to remove all but numbers from a form field 
> > and then enter
> > the new var into a differnt field.
> > 
> > I have tried:
> > 
> > 
> > function enterbldgnum() {
> > document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value =
> > REReplaceNoCase(document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value, 
> > "[:digit:]", "", "All");
> > }
> > 
> > function enterbldgnum() {
> > x = document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value;
> > document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value = REReplaceNoCase(x, 
> > "[:digit:]",
> > "", "All");
> > }
> > 
> > function enterbldgnum() {
> > x = REReplaceNoCase("22we445rt", "[:digit:]", "", "All");
> > document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value = x;
> > }
> > 
> > function enterbldgnum() {
> > x = document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value;
> > REReplaceNoCase(x, "[:digit:]", "", "All");
> > document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value = x;
> > }
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > All get the same error "object expected", for the 
> > REReplaceNoCase line.
> > this simple check works(just making sure all my names were 
> > good and function
> > was being called)
> > 
> > function enterbldgnum() {
> > document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value = 
> > document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value;
> > }
> > 
> > 
> > What am I missing?
> > Thanks
> > Rodney
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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RE: Javescript help

[Bruce, Rodney S HQISEC/SIGNAL]

I am trying to write it in javascript, but am not getting the JS reg exp
right.
and maybe confusion the regexp.

My code was:

   function enterbldgnum() {
document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value =
REReplaceNoCase(document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value, 
 "[:digit:]", "", "All");
 }









which has no CF in it (well maybe the REReplaceNoCase()).
 it is not.
this function is with all the rest of the JS functions at the top of my
page.
I am far from an expert(or I wouldn't need this help), but I do know the
differnce between CF and JS and were they run.

So my question still stands how would I get this to work in JS?





-Original Message-
From: Matthew Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 4:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Javescript help


You are confusing server-side (CF) and client-side (JS). While you can
mix CF and JS together, you need to understand how it works. The CF is
processed in entirety before the page loads. So you can use it to insert
values into JS variables for example, or to dynamically build different
JS code. But CF cannot access client-side variables such as
document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value . 

JS has regular expression parsing so perhaps you can rewrite it all in
JS.

> -Original Message-
> From: Bruce, Rodney S HQISEC/SIGNAL
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: mercredi 10 juillet 2002 11:05
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: OT: Javescript help
> 
> 
> Hello all
> 
> I am missing something to get this javascript to work, hoping 
> someone can
> help.
> 
> Am just trying to remove all but numbers from a form field 
> and then enter
> the new var into a differnt field.
> 
> I have tried:
> 
> 
> function enterbldgnum() {
>   document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value =
> REReplaceNoCase(document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value, 
> "[:digit:]", "", "All");
> }
> 
> function enterbldgnum() {
>   x = document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value;
>   document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value = REReplaceNoCase(x, 
> "[:digit:]",
> "", "All");
> }
> 
> function enterbldgnum() {
>   x = REReplaceNoCase("22we445rt", "[:digit:]", "", "All");
>   document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value = x;
> }
> 
> function enterbldgnum() {
>   x = document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value;
>   REReplaceNoCase(x, "[:digit:]", "", "All");
>   document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value = x;
> }
> 
> 
> 
> All get the same error "object expected", for the 
> REReplaceNoCase line.
> this simple check works(just making sure all my names were 
> good and function
> was being called)
> 
> function enterbldgnum() {
>   document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value = 
> document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value;
> }
> 
> 
> What am I missing?
> Thanks
> Rodney
> 
> 

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RE: Javescript help

[Matthew Walker]

You are confusing server-side (CF) and client-side (JS). While you can
mix CF and JS together, you need to understand how it works. The CF is
processed in entirety before the page loads. So you can use it to insert
values into JS variables for example, or to dynamically build different
JS code. But CF cannot access client-side variables such as
document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value . 

JS has regular expression parsing so perhaps you can rewrite it all in
JS.

> -Original Message-
> From: Bruce, Rodney S HQISEC/SIGNAL
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: mercredi 10 juillet 2002 11:05
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: OT: Javescript help
> 
> 
> Hello all
> 
> I am missing something to get this javascript to work, hoping 
> someone can
> help.
> 
> Am just trying to remove all but numbers from a form field 
> and then enter
> the new var into a differnt field.
> 
> I have tried:
> 
> 
> function enterbldgnum() {
>   document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value =
> REReplaceNoCase(document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value, 
> "[:digit:]", "", "All");
> }
> 
> function enterbldgnum() {
>   x = document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value;
>   document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value = REReplaceNoCase(x, 
> "[:digit:]",
> "", "All");
> }
> 
> function enterbldgnum() {
>   x = REReplaceNoCase("22we445rt", "[:digit:]", "", "All");
>   document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value = x;
> }
> 
> function enterbldgnum() {
>   x = document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value;
>   REReplaceNoCase(x, "[:digit:]", "", "All");
>   document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value = x;
> }
> 
> 
> 
> All get the same error "object expected", for the 
> REReplaceNoCase line.
> this simple check works(just making sure all my names were 
> good and function
> was being called)
> 
> function enterbldgnum() {
>   document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value = 
> document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value;
> }
> 
> 
> What am I missing?
> Thanks
> Rodney
> 
> 
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OT: Javescript help

[Bruce, Rodney S HQISEC/SIGNAL]

Hello all

I am missing something to get this javascript to work, hoping someone can
help.

Am just trying to remove all but numbers from a form field and then enter
the new var into a differnt field.

I have tried:


function enterbldgnum() {
document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value =
REReplaceNoCase(document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value, "[:digit:]", "", "All");
}

function enterbldgnum() {
x = document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value;
document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value = REReplaceNoCase(x, "[:digit:]",
"", "All");
}

function enterbldgnum() {
x = REReplaceNoCase("22we445rt", "[:digit:]", "", "All");
document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value = x;
}

function enterbldgnum() {
x = document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value;
REReplaceNoCase(x, "[:digit:]", "", "All");
document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value = x;
}



All get the same error "object expected", for the REReplaceNoCase line.
this simple check works(just making sure all my names were good and function
was being called)

function enterbldgnum() {
document.bldginfo.Bldgname.value = document.bldginfo.Bldgnumt.value;
}


What am I missing?
Thanks
Rodney

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Re: Best e-mail regex?

[Joseph Thompson]

Erik Voldengen  sent this one to the list a while back:

It handles "multiple top levels", checks for valid "root domains", disallows
double @@ and will ensure that the email address contains just
"alphanumeric" characters.

Very nice piece of work!




.good..

.bad..


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Re: SOT SSL

[Cary Gordon]

This was bound to happen with Thawte.  Verisign's original strategy was to 
keep the Thawte price low, but make them maor challenging to deal with. Now 
they have almost doubled the price, bringing it to just above half of the 
Verisign offering.

I think that the low priced offering from Equifax 
 has taken the regulatory pressure off of 
them to keep their price down.

At 05:27 PM 7/9/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>personally - I am on the 4th week of a simple renewal to one of my sites
>that has 10,000 unique shoppers a day..
>
>They are horribly slow - I recommend renewing NO less than 1 + months
>prior.
>
>As for the pricing update - for $60 or so dollars a year - I don;t think
>thatis that crazy for the low end cert- still cheaper then other
>options.
>jay miller


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RE: Search Engine-Friendly URLs

[Pete Freitag]

I wrote an ISAPI filter designed to only do the search engine safe url
replacement, so it's pretty fast.  You can get the DLL and source here:
http://www.cfdev.com/products/

-pete

-Original Message-
From: Jamie Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 4:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Search Engine-Friendly URLs


I couldn't find the old thread I vaguely remember on this list.

What's the preferred custom tag for replacing & and ? in the query
string? I think Ben Forta wrote one, but I can't find it now.

I'm already using the URLReplacer ISAPI filter, but I wanted to
explore alternatives.

Thanks,
Jamie

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Re: SOT SSL

[Jason Miller]

personally - I am on the 4th week of a simple renewal to one of my sites
that has 10,000 unique shoppers a day..

They are horribly slow - I recommend renewing NO less than 1 + months
prior.

As for the pricing update - for $60 or so dollars a year - I don;t think
thatis that crazy for the low end cert- still cheaper then other
options.
jay miller

Jim McAtee wrote:


Thawte recently announced a substantial price increase, although it's
not yet
reflected on their web site.  I'm also hearing a lot of horror stories
on the
ISP lists regarding turnaround times at Thawte for new certs.  What used
to
take two or three days is now taking as long as four weeks.  Another
Verisign
disaster story.

>From an email dated July 4th.  The 'SGC' product is the 128 bit
supercert.


The new pricing is as follows:
Product New  Renew
SSL 1 Year $199   $159
SSL 2 Year $349   $299
SGC 1 Year $449   $399
SGC 2 Year $849   $749
Codesigning 1 Year $199   $159
Codesigning 2 Year $399   $319


Jim


- Original Message -
From: "Kevin Langevin"   
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk"   
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: SSL



Nope...they have 128 bit Supercerts now...

They're actually only $300 per year.  I thought they were more than
that...

http://www.thawte.com/getinfo/products/supercert/contents.html
 

- Original Message -
From: "Dave Hannum"    <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk"   
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: SSL



Make your own:
But your visitors will have to download the key to use it first visit.
This can be a problem.  Many (maybe most) won't do it.

I believe Thawt (owned by Verisign) only has up to 40 bit certs.

http://cognac.epfl.ch/SIC/SL/CA/  

Dave

- Original Message -
From: "Chad Gray"    <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk"   
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 1:28 PM
Subject: OT: SSL


Is Verisign the only company you buy a 128bit certificate from?  $900
per year, per site seems a bit steep.






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Re: Best e-mail regex?

[BEN MORRIS]

I want to use this for form validation when they enter the email in the first place.

>>> Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 07/09/02 03:57PM >>>
The true answer is no. The reason is that different people write their valuators based 
on different criteria. For example:
\.[a-z]{2,4}$ - means that the string has to end with a period followed by a 
combination of characters that must have a length of 2-4. This gets .uk and .info with 
no problem as they're official domains. On the other hand, someone said that .museum 
is now a legal domain and that means that the code has to be {2,6} now. 
I'd say take a few of the best ones, look at them to decide why they were done 
differently and then roll your own. 
Oh, a side question. Do you want to do pre-sending validation or post?


> There are a lot of different examples of regular expressions that validate an e-mail 
>address.  Does anyone have a true e-mail validation regex, meaning that it really 
>parallels the criteria of a valid e-mail?
> 
> TIA
> 
> ---
> 
>   Ben Morris
> 
>   Web Site Developer
>   American Federation of Government Employees, AFL-CIO
>   (202) 639-6448
>   www.afge.org 
> 
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Re: Search Engine-Friendly URLs

[Jamie Jackson]

Thanks, I'm reading
http://www.sys-con.com/coldfusion/article.cfm?id=388 right now.

Thanks,
Jamie

On Tue,  9 Jul 2002 13:31:59 -0700, in cf-talk you wrote:

>Here's a version of that tag.  Snipped it out of an app I have that uses it.  Got it 
>from a link on http://forta.com awhile back.  I think the only meaningful thing I 
>changed was add a test to see if cgi.query_string was GT 0.
>
>If you use Apache, you'll need to substitute CGI.REQUEST_URI for CGI.PATH_INFO
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>   variables.query_string_length)> 
>
>
>
>   ATTRIBUTES.delimiter)>
>   ATTRIBUTES.delimiter)> 
>   
>   
>   
>
>
>
> 
> 
>
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re: Search Engine-Friendly URLs,

[Matt Robertson]

My dev server at home uses Apache - I forget which version...  Its about 9 months old 
- and it works fine, with that one cgi var change.  I didn't reconfig anything, which 
wasn't the case with IIS.  If there's something I can check for you, or you want a 
copy of my config file, let me know.

BTW in that previous code snippet you can probably do without that 
#variables.firstpart# stuff.  I forget why I put that in, but it looks useless to me 
now ;D

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-- Original Message --
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date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 16:30:46 -0400 (EDT)

FYI, since this has come up and someone has mentioned Apache, has anyone 
gotten this to work on Apache without having to use mod_rewrite?  As it 
stands right now, I can't get apache to accept the subsitution of ? for / 
without Apache throwing me a 404 error... Anyone know how to configure 
Apache for this?  I'd appreciate it.

Thanks,
~Todd

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crystal reports

[Tim Do]

I'm running cf 5.0, crystal report 8.5, on win2k

I tried calling the report with cfreport tag but am getting timeout errors,
I also noticed other developers having the same problem on the messsage
boards. So what I'm doing is calling the report via URL. 

This is the url that I'm using:
RentAdjustmentReporttest.rpt?sf={cases.caseStatus}+%3d+1&{cases.receivedDate
}+%3d+06/01/2002&promptonrefresh=1

The report name is RentAdjustmentReporttest.rpt and two parameters that I
want to pass thru is cases.caseStatus and cases.receivedDate.

These are the formulas:
{Cases.ReceivedDate} >= {?receivedDate} and
{Cases.CaseStatus} = {?caseStatus}

Whats happening is that the first parameter caseStatus is working but the
receivedDate doesn't seem to go thru. When I view the source this is what I
see: 

Dim webSource0
Set webSource0 = CreateObject("WebReportSource.WebReportSource")
webSource0.ReportSource = webBroker
webSource0.URL = "/RentAdjustmentReport.rpt"
webSource0.PromptOnRefresh = True
webSource0.AddParameter "sf", "{cases.casestatus} = 1"


am I passing the parameters in correctly? or is there another way of doing
this?

Please advise,

Thanks 

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RE: onTap chat room...

[todd]

Btw, Isaac?  It's working @ work now (WinNT, IE6) as well.  Weird thing 
tho, twice that I've been on, someone always signs out just when I sign on 
.. sup with that?  Am I that much of a beast to talk too? ;)

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re: Search Engine-Friendly URLs,

[todd]

FYI, since this has come up and someone has mentioned Apache, has anyone 
gotten this to work on Apache without having to use mod_rewrite?  As it 
stands right now, I can't get apache to accept the subsitution of ? for / 
without Apache throwing me a 404 error... Anyone know how to configure 
Apache for this?  I'd appreciate it.

Thanks,
~Todd

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RE: Server Side Checking: Is this OK?

[Chris Lofback]

Definitely validate at the server.  Here's one way to do the client-side JS:


function doValidate(oForm) {
if (oForm.FieldName.value.length > 7500) {
alert("Your data has exceeded its length");
oForm.FieldName.focus();
return false;
}
return true;
}







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TRX Integration
28051 US 19 N., Ste. C
Clearwater, FL  33761
www.trxi.com


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 4:09 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Server Side Checking: Is this OK?


IMHO, even if you use client-side data checks, you still need to do it on
the back-end as well.  It's way to easy to subvert client-side only checks.

Keep in mind that CF code will only execute on the server side, so the alert
will only get returned when the user submits the page.

Kevin

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/09/02 01:00PM >>>
Its been awhile since I subscribed to the list. Its nice to be back.  A
quick question.  I'm checking data when the user submits a form and was
wondering if something like this is OK to do.  I can't get the javascript to
work so I tried this.  This is a textarea field.



alert(" Your data has exceeded its length");
   



Daniel Bogesdorfer
Senior Programmer / Analyst
Office Of Research Health Sciences
University of Pittsburgh
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Re: Search Engine-Friendly URLs

[Matt Robertson]

Here's a version of that tag.  Snipped it out of an app I have that uses it.  Got it 
from a link on http://forta.com awhile back.  I think the only meaningful thing I 
changed was add a test to see if cgi.query_string was GT 0.

If you use Apache, you'll need to substitute CGI.REQUEST_URI for CGI.PATH_INFO



 


 
 
 
 

 






 
 
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RE: RE: onTap chat room...

[S . Isaac Dealey]

> That's ok, you have done well so far :-)

Thanks. :) Can you tell I was frustrated when I wrote this reply in the wee
hours of the morning? :)


Isaac

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RE: Search Engine-Friendly URLs

[Jim Vosika]

It was featured in the January 2001 issue of CFDJ. In his code example
he shows the tag .

HTH, 
Jim Vosika
http://tinyclick.com
Free URL Shortening!

-Original Message-
From: Jamie Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 3:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Search Engine-Friendly URLs

I couldn't find the old thread I vaguely remember on this list.

What's the preferred custom tag for replacing & and ? in the query
string? I think Ben Forta wrote one, but I can't find it now.

I'm already using the URLReplacer ISAPI filter, but I wanted to
explore alternatives.

Thanks,
Jamie

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RE: SSL

[Dan Phillips]

I agree. Geotrust is *very* fast. And their support team is wonderful. They
have really gone out of their way for me several times.

Dan Phillips
CFXHosting.com

-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 4:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SSL


You just can't beat 30 minutes or so - counting the cert request generation
on the server - which is how fast GeoTrust does it.  I thought I was getting
a good deal at $80 as a reseller.  Now I see from another post someone else
is retailing the things for $49.

One thing to watch out for is that QuickSSL certs are restricted to v4.x+
browsers.  If you want the same kind of compatibility from thawte/verisign
you need the $159 ''premium'' version.

---
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-- Original Message --
from: "Kevin Langevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:19:53 -0400

I recently obtained a Thawte cert for a client, and they were FAST.  I
contacted them by phone after submitting the request and the info aboutthe
company.  I didn't have the company's articles of incorporation or some
other doc that was required...I forget which.  While I was on the phone, the
rep I was talking to went to the D&B site, found the company's entry,
verified theinfo in the request, and two days later the info was double
verified (it goes through two people for a check & balance).  The next day I
had the cert.  It took a total of about 6 days, including a Saturday and
Sunday.  Not all requests will be this fast, most likely, but they were very
helpful and responsive.

I wouldn't be surprised at a price increase, though...they've got a lot of
breathing room to keep the price down below their parent company (Verisign).
Still not sure why they haven't just absorbed Thatwe and kept just one cert
service.

-Kev

- Original Message -
From: "Jim McAtee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: SSL


> Thawte recently announced a substantial price increase, although it's not
yet
> reflected on their web site.  I'm also hearing a lot of horror stories on
the
> ISP lists regarding turnaround times at Thawte for new certs.  What used
to
> take two or three days is now taking as long as four weeks.  Another
Verisign
> disaster story.
>
> From an email dated July 4th.  The 'SGC' product is the 128 bit supercert.
>
> > The new pricing is as follows:
> > Product New  Renew
> > SSL 1 Year $199   $159
> > SSL 2 Year $349   $299
> > SGC 1 Year $449   $399
> > SGC 2 Year $849   $749
> > Codesigning 1 Year $199   $159
> > Codesigning 2 Year $399   $319
>
> Jim
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kevin Langevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 11:56 AM
> Subject: Re: SSL
>
>
> > Nope...they have 128 bit Supercerts now...
> >
> > They're actually only $300 per year.  I thought they were more than
that...
> >
> > http://www.thawte.com/getinfo/products/supercert/contents.html
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Dave Hannum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 1:41 PM
> > Subject: Re: SSL
> >
> >
> > > Make your own:
> > > But your visitors will have to download the key to use it first visit.
> > > This can be a problem.  Many (maybe most) won't do it.
> > >
> > > I believe Thawt (owned by Verisign) only has up to 40 bit certs.
> > >
> > > http://cognac.epfl.ch/SIC/SL/CA/
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Chad Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 1:28 PM
> > > Subject: OT: SSL
> > >
> > >
> > > Is Verisign the only company you buy a 128bit certificate from?  $900
> > > per year, per site seems a bit steep.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>


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Re: SSL

[Matt Robertson]

You just can't beat 30 minutes or so - counting the cert request generation on the 
server - which is how fast GeoTrust does it.  I thought I was getting a good deal at 
$80 as a reseller.  Now I see from another post someone else is retailing the things 
for $49.

One thing to watch out for is that QuickSSL certs are restricted to v4.x+ browsers.  
If you want the same kind of compatibility from thawte/verisign you need the $159 
''premium'' version.

---
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-- Original Message --
from: "Kevin Langevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:19:53 -0400

I recently obtained a Thawte cert for a client, and they were FAST.  I
contacted them by phone after submitting the request and the info aboutthe
company.  I didn't have the company's articles of incorporation or some
other doc that was required...I forget which.  While I was on the phone, the
rep I was talking to went to the D&B site, found the company's entry,
verified theinfo in the request, and two days later the info was double
verified (it goes through two people for a check & balance).  The next day I
had the cert.  It took a total of about 6 days, including a Saturday and
Sunday.  Not all requests will be this fast, most likely, but they were very
helpful and responsive.

I wouldn't be surprised at a price increase, though...they've got a lot of
breathing room to keep the price down below their parent company (Verisign).
Still not sure why they haven't just absorbed Thatwe and kept just one cert
service.

-Kev

- Original Message -
From: "Jim McAtee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: SSL


> Thawte recently announced a substantial price increase, although it's not
yet
> reflected on their web site.  I'm also hearing a lot of horror stories on
the
> ISP lists regarding turnaround times at Thawte for new certs.  What used
to
> take two or three days is now taking as long as four weeks.  Another
Verisign
> disaster story.
>
> From an email dated July 4th.  The 'SGC' product is the 128 bit supercert.
>
> > The new pricing is as follows:
> > Product New  Renew
> > SSL 1 Year $199   $159
> > SSL 2 Year $349   $299
> > SGC 1 Year $449   $399
> > SGC 2 Year $849   $749
> > Codesigning 1 Year $199   $159
> > Codesigning 2 Year $399   $319
>
> Jim
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kevin Langevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 11:56 AM
> Subject: Re: SSL
>
>
> > Nope...they have 128 bit Supercerts now...
> >
> > They're actually only $300 per year.  I thought they were more than
that...
> >
> > http://www.thawte.com/getinfo/products/supercert/contents.html
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Dave Hannum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 1:41 PM
> > Subject: Re: SSL
> >
> >
> > > Make your own:
> > > But your visitors will have to download the key to use it first visit.
> > > This can be a problem.  Many (maybe most) won't do it.
> > >
> > > I believe Thawt (owned by Verisign) only has up to 40 bit certs.
> > >
> > > http://cognac.epfl.ch/SIC/SL/CA/
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Chad Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 1:28 PM
> > > Subject: OT: SSL
> > >
> > >
> > > Is Verisign the only company you buy a 128bit certificate from?  $900
> > > per year, per site seems a bit steep.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> 

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Search Engine-Friendly URLs

[Jamie Jackson]

I couldn't find the old thread I vaguely remember on this list.

What's the preferred custom tag for replacing & and ? in the query
string? I think Ben Forta wrote one, but I can't find it now.

I'm already using the URLReplacer ISAPI filter, but I wanted to
explore alternatives.

Thanks,
Jamie
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Re: regular expression help

[Michael Dinowitz]

If you have a limited range of accepted tags then the following will probably be your 
best bet. 
1. find all of the tags you want to allow. 
2. replace their brackets with some non-standard character (like a yen symbol). 
3. remove all other tags that exist.
4. replace your yen with brackets again.



> Hello,
> 
> I've got a form field in which I want to allow people to enter HTML tags
> (formatted stories for the web), but only a limited set of them such as
> heading, bold, and italic tags so that they don't mess up the overall
> formatting of the page.
> 
> What I'd like to do is automatically strip out any other HTML tag (or
> JavaScript, CSS, DHTML, etc.) from the submission but leave the safe tags.
> I'm thinking that using a regular expression string to do this would be the
> way to go, however there is something to consider about that idea.  The data
> ends up in an NTEXT field in the SQL database which is capable of storing a
> lot of data and I suspect people might be typing as much as a few pages of
> text into this field.  So I'm worried that a regular expression might take
> too long to parse through all the entered text.
> 
> Perhaps I'm missing something obvious here.  Anyone have any suggestions?
> 
> ---mark
> 
> 
> Mark Warrick ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Best e-mail regex?

[Jamie Jackson]

IsEmail() takes those into account:
http://cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=216

Jamie

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:57:01 -0400, in cf-talk you wrote:

>The true answer is no. The reason is that different people write their valuators 
>based on different criteria. For example:
>\.[a-z]{2,4}$ - means that the string has to end with a period followed by a 
>combination of characters that must have a length of 2-4. This gets .uk and .info 
>with no problem as they're official domains. On the other hand, someone said that 
>.museum is now a legal domain and that means that the code has to be {2,6} now. 
>I'd say take a few of the best ones, look at them to decide why they were done 
>differently and then roll your own. 
>Oh, a side question. Do you want to do pre-sending validation or post?
>
>
>> There are a lot of different examples of regular expressions that validate an 
>e-mail address.  Does anyone have a true e-mail validation regex, meaning that it 
>really parallels the criteria of a valid e-mail?
>> 
>> TIA
>> 
>> ---
>> 
>>   Ben Morris
>> 
>>   Web Site Developer
>>   American Federation of Government Employees, AFL-CIO
>>   (202) 639-6448
>>   www.afge.org
>> 
>> 
>> 
>
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Re: Server Side Checking: Is this OK?

[Kevin Miller]

IMHO, even if you use client-side data checks, you still need to do it on the back-end 
as well.  It's way to easy to subvert client-side only checks.

Keep in mind that CF code will only execute on the server side, so the alert will only 
get returned when the user submits the page.

Kevin

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/09/02 01:00PM >>>
Its been awhile since I subscribed to the list. Its nice to be back.  A
quick question.  I'm checking data when the user submits a form and was
wondering if something like this is OK to do.  I can't get the javascript to
work so I tried this.  This is a textarea field.



alert(" Your data has exceeded its length");
   



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CMemoryException

[Dwayne Cole]

Has anyone seen this before?

CMemoryException: unknown cause

PCodeRuntimeContextImp::executeSQLTagCFQuery::endTag


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RE: regular expression help

[Tangorre, Michael]

Mark,

I am fairly new to RegEx, but I can tell you we did this on our University's site when 
I was in college.
We allowed the different departments to submit formatted text using an assortment of 
HTML tags that we specified.
We used RegEx to do this, and did not notice a performace hit at all.

For what that's worth...

Mike


-Original Message-
From: Mark Warrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 3:50 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: regular expression help


Hello,

I've got a form field in which I want to allow people to enter HTML tags
(formatted stories for the web), but only a limited set of them such as
heading, bold, and italic tags so that they don't mess up the overall
formatting of the page.

What I'd like to do is automatically strip out any other HTML tag (or
JavaScript, CSS, DHTML, etc.) from the submission but leave the safe tags.
I'm thinking that using a regular expression string to do this would be the
way to go, however there is something to consider about that idea.  The data
ends up in an NTEXT field in the SQL database which is capable of storing a
lot of data and I suspect people might be typing as much as a few pages of
text into this field.  So I'm worried that a regular expression might take
too long to parse through all the entered text.

Perhaps I'm missing something obvious here.  Anyone have any suggestions?

---mark


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Server Side Checking: Is this OK?

[Bogesdorfer, Dan]

Its been awhile since I subscribed to the list. Its nice to be back.  A
quick question.  I'm checking data when the user submits a form and was
wondering if something like this is OK to do.  I can't get the javascript to
work so I tried this.  This is a textarea field.



alert(" Your data has exceeded its length");
   



Daniel Bogesdorfer
Senior Programmer / Analyst
Office Of Research Health Sciences
University of Pittsburgh
412.648.2366

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Re: CF 4.51 and Delete query Row (td)

[Jamie Jackson]

D'oh! Neither are UDFs (which I suggested), though you could recreate
this process in a custom tag.

Jamie

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:28:18 -0400 (EDT), in cf-talk you wrote:

>QueryofQueries isn't available in CF 4.51 :)
>
>On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Ken Beard wrote:
>
>> i would use Query of queries.
>> 
>> select from #queryname#
>> WHERE recordid<>#excludeme#
>> 
>> ken
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jamie Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 2:42 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: CF 4.51 and Delete query Row (td)
>> 
>> 
>> QueryDeleteRows()
>> http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=11
>> 
>> .Though it repopulates a new query with a loop, so I don't know how
>> efficient it is.
>> 
>> Jamie
>> 
>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2002 18:41:45 -0400, in cf-talk you wrote:
>> 
>> >It appears that the following does not work:
>> >
>> >Since a query is a Structure of mostly Arrays, I figure that I can use
>> >the column list to get a list of arrays in the query structure and use
>> >the ArrayDeleteAt Function to delete the associated element for the row.
>> >
>> >Anyone know how to delete a row from a query structure?
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >Troy
>> >
>> >Troy Simpson wrote:
>> >
>> >> All,
>> >>
>> >> I am utilizing a query structure and using query functions to add more
>> >> data to the structure.  I'm able to add new rows to the query structure
>> >> and add new data, but how do I delete a row of data from the query
>> >> structure?
>> >>
>> >> Since a query is a Structure of mostly Arrays, I figure that I can use
>> >> the column list to get a list of arrays in the query structure and use
>> >> the ArrayDeleteAt Function to delete the associated element for the row.
>> >>
>> >> Is this the way to do this in CF 4.51?
>> >>
>> >> On a side note, is CF 5 or better have a better way to do this?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Troy
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> -
>> >> Troy Simpson
>> >>   Applications Analyst/Programmer
>> >>   Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer
>> >>   Oracle Certified Professional DBA
>> >> North Carolina State University Libraries
>> >> Campus Box 7111 | Raleigh | North Carolina
>> >> ph.919.515.3855 | fax.919.513.3330
>> >> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> 
>> 
>
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Re: Best e-mail regex?

[Michael Dinowitz]

The true answer is no. The reason is that different people write their valuators based 
on different criteria. For example:
\.[a-z]{2,4}$ - means that the string has to end with a period followed by a 
combination of characters that must have a length of 2-4. This gets .uk and .info with 
no problem as they're official domains. On the other hand, someone said that .museum 
is now a legal domain and that means that the code has to be {2,6} now. 
I'd say take a few of the best ones, look at them to decide why they were done 
differently and then roll your own. 
Oh, a side question. Do you want to do pre-sending validation or post?


> There are a lot of different examples of regular expressions that validate an e-mail 
>address.  Does anyone have a true e-mail validation regex, meaning that it really 
>parallels the criteria of a valid e-mail?
> 
> TIA
> 
> ---
> 
>   Ben Morris
> 
>   Web Site Developer
>   American Federation of Government Employees, AFL-CIO
>   (202) 639-6448
>   www.afge.org
> 
> 
> 
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regular expression help

[Mark Warrick]

Hello,

I've got a form field in which I want to allow people to enter HTML tags
(formatted stories for the web), but only a limited set of them such as
heading, bold, and italic tags so that they don't mess up the overall
formatting of the page.

What I'd like to do is automatically strip out any other HTML tag (or
JavaScript, CSS, DHTML, etc.) from the submission but leave the safe tags.
I'm thinking that using a regular expression string to do this would be the
way to go, however there is something to consider about that idea.  The data
ends up in an NTEXT field in the SQL database which is capable of storing a
lot of data and I suspect people might be typing as much as a few pages of
text into this field.  So I'm worried that a regular expression might take
too long to parse through all the entered text.

Perhaps I'm missing something obvious here.  Anyone have any suggestions?

---mark


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Founder, Fusioneers.com / CTO, ZapConnect.com
Phone: 714-547-5386 / 714-667-0203 / Efax: 801-730-7289
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Best e-mail regex?

[BEN MORRIS]

There are a lot of different examples of regular expressions that validate an e-mail 
address.  Does anyone have a true e-mail validation regex, meaning that it really 
parallels the criteria of a valid e-mail?

TIA

---

  Ben Morris

  Web Site Developer
  American Federation of Government Employees, AFL-CIO
  (202) 639-6448
  www.afge.org


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RE: CF SQL Tool

[Steve Drucker]

Actually, the tool does auto-generate select,insert,update, and delete
stored procedures. You may have to set a flag in the application.cfm file in
order to see the options.  Also, make sure that you've got a SQL server
datasource selected.  The wizard options should appear.

-S

> -Original Message-
> From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 2:31 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF SQL Tool
> 
> 
> My version of this tool has auto-generation of SQL and 
> procedures as well. I have not ironed out the bugs yet but 
> there will be alot more of this to come.
> 
> That tool is pretty cool.
> 
> -- Original Message --
> from: Steve Drucker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:57:48 -0400 
> 
> You might want to try this out...
> 
> http://www.cfugorama.com/cfugorama/codelibrary/sqltool.cfm
> 
> (it's got better support for running and testing stored procs)
> 
> We'll be releasing a new version in a couple days that is 
> CFMX and MS-access
> compatible as well.
> 
> Regards,
> Steve Drucker
> CEO
> Fig Leaf Software
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 11:13 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: CF SQL Tool
> > 
> > 
> > Not at the moment if there was enough interest I would 
> > consider building one.
> > 
> > Clint
> > -- Original Message --
> > from: "Pete Ruckelshaus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:27:47 -0400
> > 
> > Any chance of a version that works with MS Access?
> > 
> > :-)
> > 
> > Pete
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Clint Tredway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:38 AM
> > Subject: RE: CF SQL Tool
> > 
> > 
> > > This is a web based MS SQL Server manager. It is somewhat 
> > like Enterprise
> > Manager in a browser.
> > >
> > > You can create/drop tables, create/drop/edit stored 
> > procedures, view table
> > data, document your database, and move data from one database 
> > to another.
> > >
> > > I added some more stuff to it this morning as I am using it 
> > heavily on a
> > project I am working on. I thought that people may have a 
> > use/need for it so
> > I am sharing it for now.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Clint
> > >
> > >
> > > -- Original Message --
> > > from: Bud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 09:28:20 -0400
> > >
> > > Sorry if I've missed this along the way, but what's it do?
> > > --
> > >
> > > Bud Schneehagen - Tropical Web Creations
> > >
> > > _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
> > > ColdFusion Solutions / eCommerce Development
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > http://www.twcreations.com/
> > > 954.721.3452
> > >
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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filemaker

[Won Lee]

Does anyone have a stable ODBC driver for Filemaker pro?
OR can I use any of the other drivers?

Won Lee

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RE: CF 4.51 and Delete query Row (td)

[todd]

QueryofQueries isn't available in CF 4.51 :)

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Ken Beard wrote:

> i would use Query of queries.
> 
> select from #queryname#
> WHERE recordid<>#excludeme#
> 
> ken
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jamie Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 2:42 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF 4.51 and Delete query Row (td)
> 
> 
> QueryDeleteRows()
> http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=11
> 
> .Though it repopulates a new query with a loop, so I don't know how
> efficient it is.
> 
> Jamie
> 
> On Mon, 01 Jul 2002 18:41:45 -0400, in cf-talk you wrote:
> 
> >It appears that the following does not work:
> >
> >Since a query is a Structure of mostly Arrays, I figure that I can use
> >the column list to get a list of arrays in the query structure and use
> >the ArrayDeleteAt Function to delete the associated element for the row.
> >
> >Anyone know how to delete a row from a query structure?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Troy
> >
> >Troy Simpson wrote:
> >
> >> All,
> >>
> >> I am utilizing a query structure and using query functions to add more
> >> data to the structure.  I'm able to add new rows to the query structure
> >> and add new data, but how do I delete a row of data from the query
> >> structure?
> >>
> >> Since a query is a Structure of mostly Arrays, I figure that I can use
> >> the column list to get a list of arrays in the query structure and use
> >> the ArrayDeleteAt Function to delete the associated element for the row.
> >>
> >> Is this the way to do this in CF 4.51?
> >>
> >> On a side note, is CF 5 or better have a better way to do this?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Troy
> >>
> >> --
> >> -
> >> Troy Simpson
> >>   Applications Analyst/Programmer
> >>   Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer
> >>   Oracle Certified Professional DBA
> >> North Carolina State University Libraries
> >> Campus Box 7111 | Raleigh | North Carolina
> >> ph.919.515.3855 | fax.919.513.3330
> >> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >>
> >
> 
> 
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RE: CF 4.51 and Delete query Row (td)

[Ken Beard]

i would use Query of queries.

select from #queryname#
WHERE recordid<>#excludeme#

ken

-Original Message-
From: Jamie Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 2:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF 4.51 and Delete query Row (td)


QueryDeleteRows()
http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=11

.Though it repopulates a new query with a loop, so I don't know how
efficient it is.

Jamie

On Mon, 01 Jul 2002 18:41:45 -0400, in cf-talk you wrote:

>It appears that the following does not work:
>
>Since a query is a Structure of mostly Arrays, I figure that I can use
>the column list to get a list of arrays in the query structure and use
>the ArrayDeleteAt Function to delete the associated element for the row.
>
>Anyone know how to delete a row from a query structure?
>
>Thanks,
>Troy
>
>Troy Simpson wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> I am utilizing a query structure and using query functions to add more
>> data to the structure.  I'm able to add new rows to the query structure
>> and add new data, but how do I delete a row of data from the query
>> structure?
>>
>> Since a query is a Structure of mostly Arrays, I figure that I can use
>> the column list to get a list of arrays in the query structure and use
>> the ArrayDeleteAt Function to delete the associated element for the row.
>>
>> Is this the way to do this in CF 4.51?
>>
>> On a side note, is CF 5 or better have a better way to do this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Troy
>>
>> --
>> -
>> Troy Simpson
>>   Applications Analyst/Programmer
>>   Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer
>>   Oracle Certified Professional DBA
>> North Carolina State University Libraries
>> Campus Box 7111 | Raleigh | North Carolina
>> ph.919.515.3855 | fax.919.513.3330
>> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>

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Re: SSL

[Kevin Langevin]

I recently obtained a Thawte cert for a client, and they were FAST.  I
contacted them by phone after submitting the request and the info aboutthe
company.  I didn't have the company's articles of incorporation or some
other doc that was required...I forget which.  While I was on the phone, the
rep I was talking to went to the D&B site, found the company's entry,
verified theinfo in the request, and two days later the info was double
verified (it goes through two people for a check & balance).  The next day I
had the cert.  It took a total of about 6 days, including a Saturday and
Sunday.  Not all requests will be this fast, most likely, but they were very
helpful and responsive.

I wouldn't be surprised at a price increase, though...they've got a lot of
breathing room to keep the price down below their parent company (Verisign).
Still not sure why they haven't just absorbed Thatwe and kept just one cert
service.

-Kev

- Original Message -
From: "Jim McAtee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: SSL


> Thawte recently announced a substantial price increase, although it's not
yet
> reflected on their web site.  I'm also hearing a lot of horror stories on
the
> ISP lists regarding turnaround times at Thawte for new certs.  What used
to
> take two or three days is now taking as long as four weeks.  Another
Verisign
> disaster story.
>
> From an email dated July 4th.  The 'SGC' product is the 128 bit supercert.
>
> > The new pricing is as follows:
> > Product New  Renew
> > SSL 1 Year $199   $159
> > SSL 2 Year $349   $299
> > SGC 1 Year $449   $399
> > SGC 2 Year $849   $749
> > Codesigning 1 Year $199   $159
> > Codesigning 2 Year $399   $319
>
> Jim
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kevin Langevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 11:56 AM
> Subject: Re: SSL
>
>
> > Nope...they have 128 bit Supercerts now...
> >
> > They're actually only $300 per year.  I thought they were more than
that...
> >
> > http://www.thawte.com/getinfo/products/supercert/contents.html
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Dave Hannum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 1:41 PM
> > Subject: Re: SSL
> >
> >
> > > Make your own:
> > > But your visitors will have to download the key to use it first visit.
> > > This can be a problem.  Many (maybe most) won't do it.
> > >
> > > I believe Thawt (owned by Verisign) only has up to 40 bit certs.
> > >
> > > http://cognac.epfl.ch/SIC/SL/CA/
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Chad Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 1:28 PM
> > > Subject: OT: SSL
> > >
> > >
> > > Is Verisign the only company you buy a 128bit certificate from?  $900
> > > per year, per site seems a bit steep.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
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RE: SSL

[Jack Dalaa]

No, they sell it to everyone.


Jack

On 7/9/2002 Dan O'Keefe wrote:

> Is this only if you host with them though?
> 
> Dan
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jack Dalaa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 2:58 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: SSL
> 
> 
> These hosting people resell Geotrust 128bit ssl certificates for
$49/year.
> 
> http://www.rackshack.net/quickssldetails.asp
> 
> 
> Jack
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chad Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 1:28 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: OT: SSL
> 
> 
> Is Verisign the only company you buy a 128bit certificate from?  $900
> per year, per site seems a bit steep.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Emulate Slow Connection?

[Jamie Jackson]

Cool, that does what I need, thanks. It *does* tend to over-throttle,
from my limited experience (5 minutes worth).

Jamie

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:38:38 -0700, in cf-talk you wrote:

>I use Shunra's Nimbus to throttle my network connection to the speed of
>my choosing for testing user experience speeds. It's available for free
>at http://www.shunra.com/nimbus.htm
>
>-Jeremy
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Jamie Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:56 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Emulate Slow Connection?
>
>
>Does anyone know if there's a (fairly) easy way to throttle one's own
>network connection, or more specifically, to deliberately slow the
>connection to a Website? (Not in IIS. Rather, in my desktop.)
>
>I'd like to "pretend" that I have a slow dialup to my Websites, so I can
>compare page response times to what's reported in server.log, among
>other things.
>
>(Win2K)
>
>Thanks,
>Jamie
>
>
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RE: SOT: page breaks

[Brad Roberts]

This is for internal use, so controlling the browser isn't a problem.  I
can't page break before every table.  Some tables will have 2 rows and
others will have 20 rows.  I'd end up with 100's of pages.

I want the page break to happen before the table only if the table will
spill over to the next page.

Thanks for the info.

-Brad

> -Original Message-
> From: Lawrence B. Afrin, M.D. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 2:16 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: SOT: page breaks
>
>
> Short answer?  You can't.  In fact, as my own quest for an answer to this
> problem revealed a few weeks ago, though you're on the right
> track with the
> page-break-inside: avoid directive, there are few browsers out there that
> recognize it, and no browsers that actually implement it correctly
> (including the latest from Netscape and Opera).
>
> Your best alternative may be to put a page-break-before:always directive
> before you launch into your table, so your table always starts at the top
> of the printed page.
>
> -- LBA
>
> --On Tuesday, July 09, 2002 1:00 PM -0400 Brad Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Anyone know how I can avoid page breaks within a table?  The following
> > isn't working:
> >
> > 
> >   
> >   ...
> >   
> > 
> >
> >
> 
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RE: SSL

[Dan O'Keefe]

Is this only if you host with them though?

Dan

-Original Message-
From: Jack Dalaa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 2:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SSL


These hosting people resell Geotrust 128bit ssl certificates for $49/year.

http://www.rackshack.net/quickssldetails.asp


Jack

-Original Message-
From: Chad Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 1:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: SSL


Is Verisign the only company you buy a 128bit certificate from?  $900
per year, per site seems a bit steep.



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Re: OT: SSL

[Jon Hall]

*ahem*
https://www.openssl.org/

- Original Message -
From: "Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: OT: SSL


> www.openssl.org
> You can make your own for free. The only reason you would buy one is
> to show the websurfer you are who you say you are.
>
> On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Chad Gray wrote:
>
> > Is Verisign the only company you buy a 128bit certificate from?  $900
> > per year, per site seems a bit steep.
> >
> >
> >
> 
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Re: SSL

[Jim McAtee]

Thawte recently announced a substantial price increase, although it's not yet
reflected on their web site.  I'm also hearing a lot of horror stories on the
ISP lists regarding turnaround times at Thawte for new certs.  What used to
take two or three days is now taking as long as four weeks.  Another Verisign
disaster story.

>From an email dated July 4th.  The 'SGC' product is the 128 bit supercert.

> The new pricing is as follows:
> Product New  Renew
> SSL 1 Year $199   $159
> SSL 2 Year $349   $299
> SGC 1 Year $449   $399
> SGC 2 Year $849   $749
> Codesigning 1 Year $199   $159
> Codesigning 2 Year $399   $319

Jim


- Original Message -
From: "Kevin Langevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: SSL


> Nope...they have 128 bit Supercerts now...
>
> They're actually only $300 per year.  I thought they were more than that...
>
> http://www.thawte.com/getinfo/products/supercert/contents.html
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dave Hannum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 1:41 PM
> Subject: Re: SSL
>
>
> > Make your own:
> > But your visitors will have to download the key to use it first visit.
> > This can be a problem.  Many (maybe most) won't do it.
> >
> > I believe Thawt (owned by Verisign) only has up to 40 bit certs.
> >
> > http://cognac.epfl.ch/SIC/SL/CA/
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Chad Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 1:28 PM
> > Subject: OT: SSL
> >
> >
> > Is Verisign the only company you buy a 128bit certificate from?  $900
> > per year, per site seems a bit steep.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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RE: SSL

[Jack Dalaa]

These hosting people resell Geotrust 128bit ssl certificates for $49/year.

http://www.rackshack.net/quickssldetails.asp


Jack

-Original Message-
From: Chad Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 1:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: SSL


Is Verisign the only company you buy a 128bit certificate from?  $900
per year, per site seems a bit steep.


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Re: OT: SSL

[Kevin Miller]

If you only need one or two certs, I wouldn't go with the homebrew method.  To much 
work, and you don't end up saving much money, if any.

Kevin

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/09/02 11:53AM >>>
www.openssl.org 
You can make your own for free. The only reason you would buy one is
to show the websurfer you are who you say you are.

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Chad Gray wrote:

> Is Verisign the only company you buy a 128bit certificate from?  $900
> per year, per site seems a bit steep.
>
>
> 

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Re: OT: SSL

[Alex]

www.openssl.org
You can make your own for free. The only reason you would buy one is
to show the websurfer you are who you say you are.

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Chad Gray wrote:

> Is Verisign the only company you buy a 128bit certificate from?  $900
> per year, per site seems a bit steep.
>
>
> 
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Re: OT: SSL

[Chris Norloff]

There's other places, though I can't give an example right off. Thawte provided 
competition to Verisign until Verisign bought them.

Also, it depends what you want the certificate for. If it's for commercial use and for 
people to trust you, Verisign is well recognized.

If all you want is a certificate to turn on the encryption, get a 2-week trial 
certificate from Verisign.  When it expires, you still keep the encryption, you just 
get a message when the browser sees the certificate is expired.

And, anyone can write and issue a certificate - you can, too.  www.openSSL.org

Chris Norloff



-- Original Message --
from: "Chad Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:28:28 -0400

>Is Verisign the only company you buy a 128bit certificate from?  $900
>per year, per site seems a bit steep.
>
>
>
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Re: CF 4.51 and Delete query Row (td)

[Jamie Jackson]

QueryDeleteRows()
http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=11

..Though it repopulates a new query with a loop, so I don't know how
efficient it is.

Jamie

On Mon, 01 Jul 2002 18:41:45 -0400, in cf-talk you wrote:

>It appears that the following does not work:
>
>Since a query is a Structure of mostly Arrays, I figure that I can use
>the column list to get a list of arrays in the query structure and use
>the ArrayDeleteAt Function to delete the associated element for the row.
>
>Anyone know how to delete a row from a query structure?
>
>Thanks,
>Troy
>
>Troy Simpson wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> I am utilizing a query structure and using query functions to add more
>> data to the structure.  I'm able to add new rows to the query structure
>> and add new data, but how do I delete a row of data from the query
>> structure?
>>
>> Since a query is a Structure of mostly Arrays, I figure that I can use
>> the column list to get a list of arrays in the query structure and use
>> the ArrayDeleteAt Function to delete the associated element for the row.
>>
>> Is this the way to do this in CF 4.51?
>>
>> On a side note, is CF 5 or better have a better way to do this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Troy
>>
>> --
>> -
>> Troy Simpson
>>   Applications Analyst/Programmer
>>   Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer
>>   Oracle Certified Professional DBA
>> North Carolina State University Libraries
>> Campus Box 7111 | Raleigh | North Carolina
>> ph.919.515.3855 | fax.919.513.3330
>> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> 
>
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RE: Emulate Slow Connection?

[Jeremy Babcock]

I use Shunra's Nimbus to throttle my network connection to the speed of
my choosing for testing user experience speeds. It's available for free
at http://www.shunra.com/nimbus.htm

-Jeremy


-Original Message-
From: Jamie Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:56 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Emulate Slow Connection?


Does anyone know if there's a (fairly) easy way to throttle one's own
network connection, or more specifically, to deliberately slow the
connection to a Website? (Not in IIS. Rather, in my desktop.)

I'd like to "pretend" that I have a slow dialup to my Websites, so I can
compare page response times to what's reported in server.log, among
other things.

(Win2K)

Thanks,
Jamie

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RE: CF SQL Tool

[Clint Tredway]

My version of this tool has auto-generation of SQL and procedures as well. I have not 
ironed out the bugs yet but there will be alot more of this to come.

That tool is pretty cool.

-- Original Message --
from: Steve Drucker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:57:48 -0400 

You might want to try this out...

http://www.cfugorama.com/cfugorama/codelibrary/sqltool.cfm

(it's got better support for running and testing stored procs)

We'll be releasing a new version in a couple days that is CFMX and MS-access
compatible as well.

Regards,
Steve Drucker
CEO
Fig Leaf Software


> -Original Message-
> From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 11:13 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF SQL Tool
> 
> 
> Not at the moment if there was enough interest I would 
> consider building one.
> 
> Clint
> -- Original Message --
> from: "Pete Ruckelshaus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:27:47 -0400
> 
> Any chance of a version that works with MS Access?
> 
> :-)
> 
> Pete
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Clint Tredway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:38 AM
> Subject: RE: CF SQL Tool
> 
> 
> > This is a web based MS SQL Server manager. It is somewhat 
> like Enterprise
> Manager in a browser.
> >
> > You can create/drop tables, create/drop/edit stored 
> procedures, view table
> data, document your database, and move data from one database 
> to another.
> >
> > I added some more stuff to it this morning as I am using it 
> heavily on a
> project I am working on. I thought that people may have a 
> use/need for it so
> I am sharing it for now.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Clint
> >
> >
> > -- Original Message --
> > from: Bud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 09:28:20 -0400
> >
> > Sorry if I've missed this along the way, but what's it do?
> > --
> >
> > Bud Schneehagen - Tropical Web Creations
> >
> > _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
> > ColdFusion Solutions / eCommerce Development
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://www.twcreations.com/
> > 954.721.3452
> >
> > 
> 
> 

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Dreamweaver mass file upload

[mynews]

Are DWMX questions OT here?

If they are ignore this:  I am working with DWMX and I have it 
set-up to 'open file in remote view' and 'save to remote server'. 
I have a develope on a dev server and when I get things working 
I upload to the production server.

This is very easy to do in CF-Studio 5; I would open the 2nd 
file browser to my live server and I would just drag and drop 
all the files I created on DEV to the live server.

QUESTION: How do you do this in DWMX? Do I have to 'SAVE AS' 
each file to my local production copy?


Thanks,
David Murphy
http://www.cfugcny.org

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