Re: Registry growing

2005-05-27 Thread Matt Robertson
If you have a lot of just-looking visitors, then thats normal.  The
client I had a problem with was getting much of his traffic from bots,
who seemed to generate a new cfid and cftoken on every page visit. 
Maybe you have a similar situation.

I wouldn't bother moving the data into a db.  I'd just set cvars to
expire (in the cf administrator.  I think its in the Variables
section) after some short period (2 days?) and zap 'em that way,
unless you are using client variables and want to preserve the values.

Then set up a db repository and just point CF to it.  CF will take
care of the old vars still in the registry all by itself.

And if you don't use cvars, don't set CF to keep them for the default
of 90 days or your database will balloon in size just as the registry
did.  Chances are you can leave the above 2-day setting in place
forever.

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Re: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and Windows' future

2005-05-27 Thread dave
and apples sales were up a whopping 24% so far this year :)

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From: Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 3:50 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Re: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and Windows' future 

On 5/27/05, Vince Bonfanti  wrote:
> MS's cash reserves have dropped from 60 to 30 billion because they've been
> giving it their stockholders as dividends, 

To try to stimulate growth because they have none.

> not because they're losing money

Thing happen with companies before they start to lose money (as you
know) - they are trying like mad to keep it from happening, but a
stalled stock is often a sign of bad things to come. And depending on
how you look at it, not gaining is losing.

> (they're not--MS continues to be the most profitable company in the history
> of the world). And don't forget that it took the Roman Empire over 400 years
> to fall, depending on where you measure its "peak".

True. They were quite a bit bigger - point is they fell though.

> The link came from the original message in this thread:
> 
> http://lists.matrixlist.com/pipermail/pc_support/2005-May/000393.html

danke :)



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CFUNITED interview 12 - Verity text search; CSS box model; new hotel room block

2005-05-27 Thread Michael Smith
In this issue of ColdFusion conference and training news:

1. CFUNITED News - New hotel room block at Doubletree
2. ColdFusion Live! Every Thursday 12:30pm
3. "CSS - The Box Model Demystified" interview with Sandra Clark
4. "Verity Fast Text Searching" interview with Raymond Camden

Happy coding
- Michael Smith,
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   Due to TeraTech's growth we are seeking developers and sales people
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The CFUNITED-05 Conference is a great way to see what is coming down the 
pike
for coldfusion. It gives developers like myself a chance to step away from
application development for a few days and look at the bigger picture of 
what
if going in the world of Coldfusion. Also, networking opportunities are
plentiful because many Coldfusion experts attend the conference. All of this
sounds good enough without even talking about a chance to get away to
America's capital city.  - Lindan Elliott


1. CFUNITED News

* Only 5 weeks until CFUNITED-05. Regular price $649 expires in 2 weeks 6/10/05

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* 609 people have already registered for CFUNITED-05. That is more than CFUN-04 
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  - and we have 5 weeks left for more registrations!

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* Upcoming classes:

FB201 - Intermediate FuseboxJun 7 2005
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CU202 - Simon Horwith - Roll Your Own API - Maximizing Code ReUse with CFCs and 
Custom Tags Jun 27 2005
CU203 - Geoff Snowman - Intro to .NET for CFers Jun 27 2005
CU204 - Nate Nelson - Beyond Basic SQL for CF   Jun 27 2005
CU205 - Charlie Arehart - CFML Leveraging .NET StrengthsJun 28 2005
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2. ColdFusion Live! Every Thursday  12:30pm

ColdFusion Live! A CFUNITED preview every Thursday

Two 15 minute "preview" talks from CFUNITED speakers.  They
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This week's speakers:


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5/26 Glenda Vigoreaux - Leveraging Web Services with ColdFusion
  Sean  Corfield - Enterprise Integration with ColdFusion

Future speakers are:


6/2  Michael  Dinowitz - Consuming popular web services
  Steve  Rittler - Farcry: A Free ColdFusion-based CMS
6/9  Charlie Arehart - Integrating CFML and ASP.NET Server Controls
  Lou  Honick - How to Build, Refresh or Rebuild Your Datacenter on Time 
and 
Under Budget
6/16 Jeffry Houser - Creating Sound for  Flash Movies
  David Epler - LAMBDA Boxes: ColdFusion Apps on the Cheap




3. "CSS - The Box Model Demystified" interview with Sandra Clark

Michael Smith: This time we are talking with Sandra Clark about her CFUNITED-05
talk "CSS - The Box Model Demystified". So why should a developer come to your
session Sandra?

Sandra Clark: During this past year, one of the things I have noticed with
questions I receive is that a lot of frustration with CSS comes from an
incomplete knowledge of the CSS Box Model and the rules that define it. This
talk aims to give developers the knowledge they need to be successful with the
box model in CSS (and in CSS, EVE

Re: CPU usage per page

2005-05-27 Thread Nathan Strutz
David,

I'm on CFMX 6.1. That sounds like the database driver problem from when 
6.1 first came out.

We were running DataDirect 3.3 (i think?) before updating over the last 
couple days to DD 3.4. The new drivers appear totally solid, FYI. I 
think I'll reply to my question about 3.4 (asked on tue.) next week when 
we've got sturdy evidence.

Yeah, we haven't quite had the guts to plunge into cfmx7. While it seems 
like it's got a solid reputation so far, we havn't had the time to test 
it out.

-nathan strutz


David Critchley wrote:
> What version of CF are you running?  We ran into a problem with CF MX7 where 
> jrun had high CPU usage on our server (up around 90%), everytime someone hit 
> one of our pages, hence our server began running very slowly and crashed a 
> lot.  Memory also went wonky, for some queries, memory wasnt being flushed 
> properly.  We updated our CF, and the problem went away, so we probably had a 
> buggy version of CF.  Not sure if this would fix your problem or not, but 
> might be something worth looking into.
> 
> 
>>I've got this little problem... We have a few web servers, and we keep 
>>having to buy more and load balance them to keep the CPU usage down. 
>>Higher CPU = unstable CF = crashes galore. Yeah, it's the pain of being 
>>popular i guess. Anyways, the question:
>>
>>Is there any way I can tell what pages or processes are taking up our 
>>CPU usage?
>>
>>Does anyone have recommendations on, like, a Java profiler app or 
>>anything that would help us? This is on Windows 2k3. No memory problems, 
>>or any others, except, of course for being busy, which is a problem all 
>>on its own.
>>
>>Thanks
>>-nathan strutz
>>http://www.dopefly.com/
> 
> 
> 

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CPU usage per page

2005-05-27 Thread David Critchley
What version of CF are you running?  We ran into a problem with CF MX7 where 
jrun had high CPU usage on our server (up around 90%), everytime someone hit 
one of our pages, hence our server began running very slowly and crashed a lot. 
 Memory also went wonky, for some queries, memory wasnt being flushed properly. 
 We updated our CF, and the problem went away, so we probably had a buggy 
version of CF.  Not sure if this would fix your problem or not, but might be 
something worth looking into.

>I've got this little problem... We have a few web servers, and we keep 
>having to buy more and load balance them to keep the CPU usage down. 
>Higher CPU = unstable CF = crashes galore. Yeah, it's the pain of being 
>popular i guess. Anyways, the question:
>
>Is there any way I can tell what pages or processes are taking up our 
>CPU usage?
>
>Does anyone have recommendations on, like, a Java profiler app or 
>anything that would help us? This is on Windows 2k3. No memory problems, 
>or any others, except, of course for being busy, which is a problem all 
>on its own.
>
>Thanks
>-nathan strutz
>http://www.dopefly.com/

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RE: Registry growing

2005-05-27 Thread Coleman, Brian
Thanks for the info guys. I do have lots of client.cfid, etc under
currentversion/clients. I'll write something this weekend to move cvars
into a db and see what happens. Does CF automatically delete them out of
the registry after a period of inactivity? It seems like every one I
looked at had a hitcount of only 2 which I thought was weird.

Thanks,
Brian

-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 3:43 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Registry growing

You can pretty well bet that its client variable storage in the
registry.  Just because you haven't explicitly turned client var
storage on doesn't leave it off.

I'll bet you are accumulating just basic client.cfid, client.cftoken,
client.hitcount and client.lastvisit data.

I saw this happen to a client of mine running CF 5.  His registry
ballooned to over 200 mb before I got called in and got it under
control.

Move cvar storage to a database.  Anything.  Even Access is better
than the registry.  Then set cvar expiration to maybe 2 days and watch
to see if that fixes it.  Not sure if the registry shrinks when the
cvars get deleted

You should be able to go into the registry and find the repository
fairly easily.  Don't remember the exact location.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Macromedia/ColdFusion/CurrentVersion/Clients

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Re: CPU usage per page

2005-05-27 Thread Nathan Strutz
Ryan, thanks a lot for your response. I'll answer a few statements you made.

We have logging turned on for anything over 30 seconds. These errors 
only happen during database optimization times, or on credit card/echeck 
processing pages which have to connect out to our bank transaction 
processing companies.

Besides that one page, which doesn't run every second or anything, the 
rest of the site is really optimized, and runs very quickly. It's just 
the CPU will travel up around 50-75% on peak times (aka, time to add 
another box).

~98% or so of our database connections are through stored procs, 
connecting to a ms sql server on a separate box. Our dbas work night & 
day to keep it optimized, and they do a good job, though historically, 
whenever sql has problems, CF crashes.

-nathan strutz




Ryan Hartwich wrote:
> Try going into the debugging area if CF Admin and making sure that it is 
> logging pages that run longer than X seconds.  Set it to 60 seconds or so and 
> watch which files show up in the logs.  Then, run those files in development 
> with the full debugging turned on and see if 1) there are sql statements or 
> stored procedure calls that take a long time  2) if the page calls many sub 
> pages and any of them take a long time to run.
> 
> Most likely you will identify a few key pages that everyone runs that are 
> very cpu intensive.  
> 
> Here are a few of the things I 'fix'
> 
> rewrite queries that take a long time if possible (adding indexes to tables 
> may help)
> 
> rewrite stored procedures
> 
> look for queries that are called on every page or repeatedly on the same page 
> (in a loop) that can be cached.  You may find that you have 3-5 queries in 
> your application.cfm page that run for every request that pull back the same 
> information.  Running these could take a tenth of a second or more, adding 
> load to CF, the database, lag time to connect, etc.
> 
> If you have a page with a loop with a query inside it and the only thing in 
> the query that changes is the primary key, try rewriting the query so that 
> you can put it on the outside of the loop and use a query of query inside the 
> loop.  i.e. you have a query called 100 times (loop 1 to 100), each time 
> returning 1 row.   Rewrite to return all 100 rows, place outside loop.  
> Inside loop, query the 100 row record set for the individual row.  this cuts 
> database connects from 100 to 1.
> 
> If you are running MS Access, get rid of it :-)
> 
> 

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Digest Authentication

2005-05-27 Thread Mitch Rose
Is this possible with CF, and if so, can someone post some sample code or point 
me in the right direction?

thanks, 
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Re: Verity and languages

2005-05-27 Thread Steven Erat
I've been giving you instructions for ColdFusion MX 7, not 6.1. 

You are correct about double byte character sets and CFMX 6.1.  
Initially, double-byte character sets didn't work with that version of 
Verity in CFMX 6.x for any OS at all, but then a hotfix was made that 
permitted it work on Windows only.  As far as I know CFMX 6.1 still 
doesn't support double byte collections when on a non-Windows OS.  I'll 
double check that...

Refer to this article:

ColdFusion MX: Searching for words with non-English characters in 
non-English Verity Collections fail to return results
http://www.macromedia.com/go/tn_18973

With the new Verity version in CFMX 7, double byte characters sets can 
be indexed and searched with the language packs on all platforms.





chad gray wrote:

>Is there anyone from Macromedia that can validate that i can install the 
>windows language pack for verity on my Linux box running version 6.1 MX?
>
>This is really making me nervous.
>
>Is the documentation on the macromedia web site wrong?
>
>
>
>  
>
>>Here is what the dowload page displays:
>>
>>Windows
>>verity_win_asia_eur.zip - Asian/European Search Pack (ZIP, 41.41MB)
>>verity_win_en.zip - English Search Pack (ZIP, 8.40MB)
>>
>>Solaris
>>verity_solaris_asia_eur.tar - Asian/European Search Pack (TAR, 103.
>>83MB)
>>verity_solaris_en.tar - English Search Pack (TAR, 32.23MB)
>>
>>Linux
>>verity_linux_eur.tar - European Search Pack (TAR, 60.21MB)
>>verity_linux_en.tar - English Search Pack (TAR, 18.09KB)
>>
>>HP-UX
>>verity_hpux_eur.tar - Asian/European Search Pack (TAR, 79.42MB)
>>verity_hpux_en.tar - English Search Pack (TAR, 37.
>>
>>
>32MB)
>
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Re: Verity and languages

2005-05-27 Thread chad gray
Hmmm.. i punch in my 6.1 serial number and i get this:  (not the linux only 
mentions European and not Asian)

Windows
verity_win_asia_eur.zip - Asian/European Search Pack (ZIP, 41.41MB)
verity_win_en.zip - English Search Pack (ZIP, 8.40MB)

Solaris
verity_solaris_asia_eur.tar - Asian/European Search Pack (TAR, 103.83MB)
verity_solaris_en.tar - English Search Pack (TAR, 32.23MB)

Linux
verity_linux_eur.tar - European Search Pack (TAR, 60.21MB)
verity_linux_en.tar - English Search Pack (TAR, 18.09KB)

HP-UX
verity_hpux_eur.tar - Asian/European Search Pack (TAR, 79.42MB)
verity_hpux_en.tar - English Search Pack (TAR, 37.32MB

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Re: Verity and languages

2005-05-27 Thread Steven Erat
That's not what I see.

For ColdFusion MX 7, first I go to http://www.macromedia.com/go/verity

Then I enter a serial number and get redirected to a page where the 
Language Packs are at the top, with 4 different zip files with different 
locales, and at the bottom are the OS specific ColdFusion MX Search 
Service installation kits for installing verity seperately.

Here's the page content of what I see:

Welcome to the Verity Search Packs for ColdFusion MX 7. This product 
allows ColdFusion MX 7 applications to index and search European and 
Asian languages. The following Search Packs include:

* The European Search Pack provides the ability to index and search
  Danish, Dutch, English, Finnish, French, German, Italian,
  Norwegian (Bokmal), Norwegian (Nynorsk), Portuguese, Spanish, and
  Swedish.
* The Asian Search Pack provides the ability to index and search
  Japanese, Traditional and Simplified Chinese, and Korean.
* The Eastern European and Middle Eastern Search Pack provides the
  ability to index and search Arabic, Bulgarian, Czech, Greek,
  Hebrew, Hungarian, Polish, Russian, and Turkish.
* The English Search Pack restores your environment to the English
  only default.

Be sure to read the installation instructions 
 completely before 
installing the software.

* verity_asian_locales.zip
  

  (ZIP, 2.40MB) includes Japanese, Korean, Chinese (Simplified), and
  Chinese (Traditional)
* verity_ee_me_locales.zip
  

  (ZIP, 3.09MB) includes Arabic, Bulgarian, Czech, Greek, Hebrew,
  Hungarian, Polish, Russian, and Turkish
* verity_weuropean_locales.zip
  

  (ZIP, 3.09MB) includes Danish, Dutch, Finnish, French, German,
  Italian, Norwegian (Bokmal), Norwegian (Nynorsk), Portuguese,
  Spanish, and Swedish
* verity_multilanguage_locale.zip
  

  (ZIP, 3.09MB) this file locale index content across multiple languages

 


Verity Search Pack Installers for ColdFusion MX 7

* Windows Verity Installer
  

  (EXE 63.16MB)
* Linux Verity Installer
  

  (BIN 96.03MB)
* Solaris Verity Installer
  

  (BIN 101.55MB)



chad gray wrote:

>Thanks for the help Steven.  it just scares the heck out of me when the 
>Download page has the verity files split up into windows, HP/UX, solaris, and 
>Linux.
>
>Why is the Linux tar 60 megabytes and the windows zip 41 megabytes?  They 
>appear different!
>
>I will make sure to back up the system before i unzip the windows file 
>"verity_win_asia_eur.zip" on my linux machine.
>
>Here is what the dowload page displays:
>
>Windows
>verity_win_asia_eur.zip - Asian/European Search Pack (ZIP, 41.41MB)
>verity_win_en.zip - English Search Pack (ZIP, 8.40MB)
>
>Solaris
>verity_solaris_asia_eur.tar - Asian/European Search Pack (TAR, 103.83MB)
>verity_solaris_en.tar - English Search Pack (TAR, 32.23MB)
>
>Linux
>verity_linux_eur.tar - European Search Pack (TAR, 60.21MB)
>verity_linux_en.tar - English Search Pack (TAR, 18.09KB)
>  
>


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Re: Verity and languages

2005-05-27 Thread chad gray
Is there anyone from Macromedia that can validate that i can install the 
windows language pack for verity on my Linux box running version 6.1 MX?

This is really making me nervous.

Is the documentation on the macromedia web site wrong?



> Here is what the dowload page displays:
> 
> Windows
> verity_win_asia_eur.zip - Asian/European Search Pack (ZIP, 41.41MB)
> verity_win_en.zip - English Search Pack (ZIP, 8.40MB)
> 
> Solaris
> verity_solaris_asia_eur.tar - Asian/European Search Pack (TAR, 103.
> 83MB)
> verity_solaris_en.tar - English Search Pack (TAR, 32.23MB)
> 
> Linux
> verity_linux_eur.tar - European Search Pack (TAR, 60.21MB)
> verity_linux_en.tar - English Search Pack (TAR, 18.09KB)
> 
> HP-UX
> verity_hpux_eur.tar - Asian/European Search Pack (TAR, 79.42MB)
> verity_hpux_en.tar - English Search Pack (TAR, 37.
32MB)

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CPU usage per page

2005-05-27 Thread Ryan Hartwich
Try going into the debugging area if CF Admin and making sure that it is 
logging pages that run longer than X seconds.  Set it to 60 seconds or so and 
watch which files show up in the logs.  Then, run those files in development 
with the full debugging turned on and see if 1) there are sql statements or 
stored procedure calls that take a long time  2) if the page calls many sub 
pages and any of them take a long time to run.

Most likely you will identify a few key pages that everyone runs that are very 
cpu intensive.  

Here are a few of the things I 'fix'

rewrite queries that take a long time if possible (adding indexes to tables may 
help)

rewrite stored procedures

look for queries that are called on every page or repeatedly on the same page 
(in a loop) that can be cached.  You may find that you have 3-5 queries in your 
application.cfm page that run for every request that pull back the same 
information.  Running these could take a tenth of a second or more, adding load 
to CF, the database, lag time to connect, etc.

If you have a page with a loop with a query inside it and the only thing in the 
query that changes is the primary key, try rewriting the query so that you can 
put it on the outside of the loop and use a query of query inside the loop.  
i.e. you have a query called 100 times (loop 1 to 100), each time returning 1 
row.   Rewrite to return all 100 rows, place outside loop.  Inside loop, query 
the 100 row record set for the individual row.  this cuts database connects 
from 100 to 1.

If you are running MS Access, get rid of it :-)

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Re: Search questions

2005-05-27 Thread Adam Churvis
Yeah, I've had K2 on the brain ever since we standardized on it.

We always setup Verity so that we can directly map VDK collections 1:1 with
K2 aliases, which enables us to migrate to/from K2 as needed without
changing anything in the code.  We have an XML configuration file element
named "search-name" that contains the collection name, which is either
CollectionName_VDK or CollectionName_K2, and our searches just point to the
appropriate collection.  That way if a customer needs to migrate to a host
that doesn't offer K2, or if K2 is giving him a problem for some reason, we
simply change the search-name from _K2 to _VDK and he's set.

The only way we can do this is by always keeping Custom index entries out of
the collections that contain File and Path index entries.  Hell, I've got
Plum on the brain! ;)

Thanks for pointing this out, Dave.  Sorry for any confusion, folks.

Respectfully,

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To: "CF-Talk" 
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 1:07 PM
Subject: RE: Search questions


> > You can create a single collection contains both File and Path
> > index entries, but that collection cannot also contain Custom index
> > entries. This is because while both File and Path index entries
> > are based on disk files as indexing targets, Custom index entries
> > are based on database content as an indexing target, so the
> > configuration of Custom entries cannot coexist in the same collection.
>
> Actually, this is incorrect. You can use database and filesystem content
> within the same Verity collection if you're using the Verity VDK as
opposed
> to K2. When you search the collection, you can differentiate between
> database and filesystem results by looking at the key column, which will
> contain a filesystem path if the result points to a file, or whatever you
> put in there (presumably a primary key or some custom unique identifier)
if
> the result points to a database record.
>
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Re: Verity and languages

2005-05-27 Thread chad gray
Thanks for the help Steven.  it just scares the heck out of me when the 
Download page has the verity files split up into windows, HP/UX, solaris, and 
Linux.

Why is the Linux tar 60 megabytes and the windows zip 41 megabytes?  They 
appear different!

I will make sure to back up the system before i unzip the windows file 
"verity_win_asia_eur.zip" on my linux machine.

Here is what the dowload page displays:

Windows
verity_win_asia_eur.zip - Asian/European Search Pack (ZIP, 41.41MB)
verity_win_en.zip - English Search Pack (ZIP, 8.40MB)

Solaris
verity_solaris_asia_eur.tar - Asian/European Search Pack (TAR, 103.83MB)
verity_solaris_en.tar - English Search Pack (TAR, 32.23MB)

Linux
verity_linux_eur.tar - European Search Pack (TAR, 60.21MB)
verity_linux_en.tar - English Search Pack (TAR, 18.09KB)

HP-UX
verity_hpux_eur.tar - Asian/European Search Pack (TAR, 79.42MB)
verity_hpux_en.tar - English Search Pack (TAR, 37.32MB)

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CPU usage per page

2005-05-27 Thread Nathan Strutz
I've got this little problem... We have a few web servers, and we keep 
having to buy more and load balance them to keep the CPU usage down. 
Higher CPU = unstable CF = crashes galore. Yeah, it's the pain of being 
popular i guess. Anyways, the question:

Is there any way I can tell what pages or processes are taking up our 
CPU usage?

Does anyone have recommendations on, like, a Java profiler app or 
anything that would help us? This is on Windows 2k3. No memory problems, 
or any others, except, of course for being busy, which is a problem all 
on its own.

Thanks
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Re: Verity and languages

2005-05-27 Thread Steven Erat
The linux utility 'unzip' is for this purpose.  The .zip extension 
doesn't imply that the archive is for Windows only.

Here's a good howto:
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/1324

Of course, see also: man unzip

And don't forget about my correction to my first reply.  The place to 
unzip to is $verity/k2/common such as /opt/coldfusionmx7/verity/k2/common




chad gray wrote:

>Can i use the Windows file verity_win_asia_eur.zip  with my Linux install?
>
>
>
>  
>
>>We are using 6.1 on Linux.  According to the language pack download 
>>page for 6.1 there is only European not asian.  
>>
>>There is asian for Windows 6.1
>>
>>
>>


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RE: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and Windows' future

2005-05-27 Thread Damien McKenna
To finish the thread (to CF-OT we go?) please read some more of Bryan's
comments at
http://lists.matrixlist.com/pipermail/pc_support/2005-May/date.html
before completely dismissing the .NET-Java tie.

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Re: Verity and languages

2005-05-27 Thread chad gray
Can i use the Windows file verity_win_asia_eur.zip  with my Linux install?



> We are using 6.1 on Linux.  According to the language pack download 
> page for 6.1 there is only European not asian.  
> 
> There is asian for Windows 6.1
> 
> 
> 
> > Have you installed the verity_asian_locales.zip?
> > 
> > http://www.macromedia.com/go/cfmx7_verity_install
> > 
> > Download the appropriate Verity Locales package, and save it to your 
> 
> > /cf_root/ directory.
> > 

> 
> > * verity_asian_locales.zip - includes Japanese, Korean, Chinese
  
> 
> > (Simplified), and Chinese (Traditional)

> 
> > * verity_ee_me_locales.zip - includes Arabic, Bulgarian, Czech,
  
> 
> > Greek, Hebrew, Hungarian, Polish, Russian, and Turkish

> 
> > * verity_weuropean_locales.zip - includes Danish, Dutch, Finnish,
  
> 
> > French, German, Italian, Norwegian (Bokmal), Norwegian (Nynorsk),
  
> 
> > Portuguese, Spanish, and Swedish

> 
> > * verity_multilanguage_locale.zip
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > chad gray wrote:
> > 
> > >I have run into another problem.
> > >
> > >Apparently Linux can only do European languages with verity.  All 
> of 
> > the other OS's can so double byte like Chinese, Korean, Japanese etc... 
> 
> > why cant Linux?
> > >
> > >Does anyone have a workaround or a way to get double byte languages 
> 
> > in Linux verity???
> > >  
> > 
>

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Re: Verity and languages

2005-05-27 Thread chad gray
We are using 6.1 on Linux.  According to the language pack download page for 
6.1 there is only European not asian.  

There is asian for Windows 6.1



> Have you installed the verity_asian_locales.zip?
> 
> http://www.macromedia.com/go/cfmx7_verity_install
> 
> Download the appropriate Verity Locales package, and save it to your 
> /cf_root/ directory.
> 

> * verity_asian_locales.zip - includes Japanese, Korean, Chinese
  
> (Simplified), and Chinese (Traditional)

> * verity_ee_me_locales.zip - includes Arabic, Bulgarian, Czech,
  
> Greek, Hebrew, Hungarian, Polish, Russian, and Turkish

> * verity_weuropean_locales.zip - includes Danish, Dutch, Finnish,
  
> French, German, Italian, Norwegian (Bokmal), Norwegian (Nynorsk),
  
> Portuguese, Spanish, and Swedish

> * verity_multilanguage_locale.zip
> 
> 
> 
> 
> chad gray wrote:
> 
> >I have run into another problem.
> >
> >Apparently Linux can only do European languages with verity.  All of 
> the other OS's can so double byte like Chinese, Korean, Japanese etc... 
> why cant Linux?
> >
> >Does anyone have a workaround or a way to get double byte languages 
> in Linux verity???
> >  
> >

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Re: Registry growing

2005-05-27 Thread Matt Robertson
You can pretty well bet that its client variable storage in the
registry.  Just because you haven't explicitly turned client var
storage on doesn't leave it off.

I'll bet you are accumulating just basic client.cfid, client.cftoken,
client.hitcount and client.lastvisit data.

I saw this happen to a client of mine running CF 5.  His registry
ballooned to over 200 mb before I got called in and got it under
control.

Move cvar storage to a database.  Anything.  Even Access is better
than the registry.  Then set cvar expiration to maybe 2 days and watch
to see if that fixes it.  Not sure if the registry shrinks when the
cvars get deleted

You should be able to go into the registry and find the repository
fairly easily.  Don't remember the exact location.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Macromedia/ColdFusion/CurrentVersion/Clients

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Re: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and Windows' future

2005-05-27 Thread Kwang Suh
>You just answered your own question. If you pay more dividends, more
>people buy the stock, more people buying your stock == higher stock
>value == growth

What you are talking about is stock price appreciation, which is not "growth".  
"Growth" is stuff like selling more products and increasing revenue.  Stock 
price appreciation can occur for a number of reasons, of which "growth" is but 
one.

Higher dividends may lead to stock price appreciation due to increased demand 
of that stock, and solely because of that reason.

>
>
>Why? And what is "short term" is 3 years too short?

Yes.  If 3 years is "long term", then what's 25 years?

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Re: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and Windows' future

2005-05-27 Thread Rob
BAH! this is getting(?) way off topic Kwang email me off list if you
want to continue :)

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Re: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and Windows' future

2005-05-27 Thread Jordan Michaels
Kwang Suh wrote:

>>On 5/27/05, Vince Bonfanti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>MS's cash reserves have dropped from 60 to 30 billion because they've been
>>>giving it their stockholders as dividends, 
>>>  
>>>
>>To try to stimulate growth because they have none.
>>
>>
>
>How does giving dividends to shareholders stimulate growth?
>  
>
It's the "I gotta get me some of that!" syndrome.

Who among us hasn't envied the success of MS? Whether we like them or not...

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RE: Registry growing

2005-05-27 Thread Calvin Ward
I don't know the answer to your final question, but one thing you can do is
set your default client variable storage to cookie.

Personally I agree with Sean and try to avoid client variable usage
altogether.

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Coleman, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 4:31 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Registry growing

On the production server I'm using for Cold Fusion (Windows 2000 Server,
1 processor, 1gig ram), the registry has steadily grown from below 32
meg to 110meg. CF MX 6.1 has been running on the server for almost two
years without the registry growing and I haven't made any changes to the
CF admin settings.
 
I have added a couple new applications but they have also been running
for 4-5 months whereas the registry growing has happened in the last 2-3
weeks. All my application.cfm files look like this
 

 
if I need to use variables I use session variables and have never used
client variables
 
There is one other application.cfm my boss is using for his site that
looks like this
 

His site is not live though and the only person using it is himself.
 
There are a couple other non CF web applications installed on the server
that have also been installed for a couple years.
 
Is there any way to see registry sizes for different parts of the
registry to see if CF is really the culprit or if there's something else
I don't know about?
 
Thanks,
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Re: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and Windows' future

2005-05-27 Thread Rob
On 5/27/05, Kwang Suh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On 5/27/05, Vince Bonfanti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> MS's cash reserves have dropped from 60 to 30 billion because they've been
> >> giving it their stockholders as dividends,
> >
> >To try to stimulate growth because they have none.
> 
> How does giving dividends to shareholders stimulate growth?
> 
> MS shareholders have been clamoring for _years_ to have the share dividend 
> raised.

You just answered your own question. If you pay more dividends, more
people buy the stock, more people buying your stock == higher stock
value == growth

> 
> >
> >> not because they're losing money
> >
> >Thing happen with companies before they start to lose money (as you
> >know) - they are trying like mad to keep it from happening, but a
> >stalled stock is often a sign of bad things to come. And depending on
> >how you look at it, not gaining is losing.
> 
> Looking at the short term stock price as a gauge of company health is invalid.

Why? And what is "short term" is 3 years too short?


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RE: Registry growing

2005-05-27 Thread Dave Watts
> Is there any way to see registry sizes for different parts 
> of the registry to see if CF is really the culprit or if 
> there's something else I don't know about?

You can simply look at the CF registry key to see if CF is the culprit:
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Allaire\ColdFusion\CurrentVersion, I think.

Alternatively, you can use change tracking software to see what's being
changed over time. I like WhatChanged for Windows for this. It's about $60
per seat.

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Registry growing

2005-05-27 Thread Coleman, Brian
On the production server I'm using for Cold Fusion (Windows 2000 Server,
1 processor, 1gig ram), the registry has steadily grown from below 32
meg to 110meg. CF MX 6.1 has been running on the server for almost two
years without the registry growing and I haven't made any changes to the
CF admin settings.
 
I have added a couple new applications but they have also been running
for 4-5 months whereas the registry growing has happened in the last 2-3
weeks. All my application.cfm files look like this
 

 
if I need to use variables I use session variables and have never used
client variables
 
There is one other application.cfm my boss is using for his site that
looks like this
 

His site is not live though and the only person using it is himself.
 
There are a couple other non CF web applications installed on the server
that have also been installed for a couple years.
 
Is there any way to see registry sizes for different parts of the
registry to see if CF is really the culprit or if there's something else
I don't know about?
 
Thanks,
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Re: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and Windows' future

2005-05-27 Thread Kwang Suh
>On 5/27/05, Vince Bonfanti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> MS's cash reserves have dropped from 60 to 30 billion because they've been
>> giving it their stockholders as dividends, 
>
>To try to stimulate growth because they have none.

How does giving dividends to shareholders stimulate growth?

MS shareholders have been clamoring for _years_ to have the share dividend 
raised.

>
>> not because they're losing money
>
>Thing happen with companies before they start to lose money (as you
>know) - they are trying like mad to keep it from happening, but a
>stalled stock is often a sign of bad things to come. And depending on
>how you look at it, not gaining is losing.

Looking at the short term stock price as a gauge of company health is invalid.

There are other alternatives for MS.  They could just as easily turn into an 
income trust, for instance.

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Re: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and Windows' future

2005-05-27 Thread Kwang Suh
>On 5/27/05, Vince Bonfanti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> MS's cash reserves have dropped from 60 to 30 billion because they've been
>> giving it their stockholders as dividends, 
>
>To try to stimulate growth because they have none.

How does giving dividends to shareholders stimulate growth?

MS shareholders have been clamoring for _years_ to have the share dividend 
raised.

>
>> not because they're losing money
>
>Thing happen with companies before they start to lose money (as you
>know) - they are trying like mad to keep it from happening, but a
>stalled stock is often a sign of bad things to come. And depending on
>how you look at it, not gaining is losing.

Looking at the short term stock price as a gauge of company health is invalid.

There are other alternatives for MS.  They could just as easily turn into an 
income trust, for instance.

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Re: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and Windows' future

2005-05-27 Thread Rob
On 5/27/05, Vince Bonfanti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > To try to stimulate growth because they have none.
> >
> 
> To stimulate growth of the stock price--is that what you mean? 

It is.

> Yes, but if we're all dead by the time Microsoft falls, it won't matter much
> to us, will it?

True that. (It doesn't even really matter much now I guess - I've
gotten along fine without them so I shouldn't complain) .

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RE: One more try... 7 >= 7?

2005-05-27 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
Good catch! I'd completely forgotten about that one... I'll have to
tattoo that on the back of my eyelids for easy reference. :)

> Rick -

> Try setting max pooled statements to 0 in CF admin for the
> problematic
> datasource(s).

> I've seen "x >= x" errors and "Variable cannot be
> converted to requested
> type" errors when adding / removing columns from tables.

> Changing the max pooled statements setting fixed our
> problem.

> See more in the thread below.

> http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/messages.cfm/Threadi
> d=34563&forumi
> d=4𪣞


> Pat

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RE: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and Windows' future

2005-05-27 Thread Vince Bonfanti
> -Original Message-
> From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 3:49 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and 
> Windows' future
> 
> On 5/27/05, Vince Bonfanti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > MS's cash reserves have dropped from 60 to 30 billion 
> because they've 
> > been giving it their stockholders as dividends,
> 
> To try to stimulate growth because they have none.
>

To stimulate growth of the stock price--is that what you mean? Giving money
to shareholders as dividends doesn't stimulate revenue growth, but certainly
will cause the stock price to rise.

> > not because they're losing money
> 
> Thing happen with companies before they start to lose money (as you
> know) - they are trying like mad to keep it from happening, 
> but a stalled stock is often a sign of bad things to come. 
> And depending on how you look at it, not gaining is losing.
> 
> > (they're not--MS continues to be the most profitable company in the 
> > history of the world). And don't forget that it took the 
> Roman Empire 
> > over 400 years to fall, depending on where you measure its "peak".
> 
> True. They were quite a bit bigger - point is they fell though.
> 

Yes, but if we're all dead by the time Microsoft falls, it won't matter much
to us, will it?

Vince



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Re: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and Windows' future

2005-05-27 Thread Rob
> p.s. I'll allow your silly comparison between MS and the Romans to pass only
> to counter-act my silly estimate of MS's financial net worth.

Deal ;)

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Re: Verity and languages

2005-05-27 Thread Steven Erat
It just occurred to me.

The current installations are incorrect and will be updated shortly.

The correct directory to extract the language pack zips is to 
$verity_root/k2/common not $cfroot.


Steven Erat wrote:

>Have you installed the verity_asian_locales.zip?
>
>http://www.macromedia.com/go/cfmx7_verity_install
>
>Download the appropriate Verity Locales package, and save it to your 
>/cf_root/ directory.
>
>* verity_asian_locales.zip - includes Japanese, Korean, Chinese
>  (Simplified), and Chinese (Traditional)
>* verity_ee_me_locales.zip - includes Arabic, Bulgarian, Czech,
>  Greek, Hebrew, Hungarian, Polish, Russian, and Turkish
>* verity_weuropean_locales.zip - includes Danish, Dutch, Finnish,
>  French, German, Italian, Norwegian (Bokmal), Norwegian (Nynorsk),
>  Portuguese, Spanish, and Swedish
>* verity_multilanguage_locale.zip
>
>
>
>
>chad gray wrote:
>
>  
>
>>I have run into another problem.
>>
>>Apparently Linux can only do European languages with verity.  All of the 
>>other OS's can so double byte like Chinese, Korean, Japanese etc... why cant 
>>Linux?
>>
>>Does anyone have a workaround or a way to get double byte languages in Linux 
>>verity???
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

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Re: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and Windows' future

2005-05-27 Thread Rob
On 5/27/05, Vince Bonfanti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> MS's cash reserves have dropped from 60 to 30 billion because they've been
> giving it their stockholders as dividends, 

To try to stimulate growth because they have none.

> not because they're losing money

Thing happen with companies before they start to lose money (as you
know) - they are trying like mad to keep it from happening, but a
stalled stock is often a sign of bad things to come. And depending on
how you look at it, not gaining is losing.

> (they're not--MS continues to be the most profitable company in the history
> of the world). And don't forget that it took the Roman Empire over 400 years
> to fall, depending on where you measure its "peak".

True. They were quite a bit bigger - point is they fell though.

> The link came from the original message in this thread:
> 
> http://lists.matrixlist.com/pipermail/pc_support/2005-May/000393.html

danke :)

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Re: Verity and languages

2005-05-27 Thread Steven Erat
Have you installed the verity_asian_locales.zip?

http://www.macromedia.com/go/cfmx7_verity_install

Download the appropriate Verity Locales package, and save it to your 
/cf_root/ directory.

* verity_asian_locales.zip - includes Japanese, Korean, Chinese
  (Simplified), and Chinese (Traditional)
* verity_ee_me_locales.zip - includes Arabic, Bulgarian, Czech,
  Greek, Hebrew, Hungarian, Polish, Russian, and Turkish
* verity_weuropean_locales.zip - includes Danish, Dutch, Finnish,
  French, German, Italian, Norwegian (Bokmal), Norwegian (Nynorsk),
  Portuguese, Spanish, and Swedish
* verity_multilanguage_locale.zip




chad gray wrote:

>I have run into another problem.
>
>Apparently Linux can only do European languages with verity.  All of the other 
>OS's can so double byte like Chinese, Korean, Japanese etc... why cant Linux?
>
>Does anyone have a workaround or a way to get double byte languages in Linux 
>verity???
>  
>


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Re: How to make my checkbox insert values

2005-05-27 Thread Will Tomlinson
Thanks for the responses.

To answer some of these questions, I'm using a html cfform. And this 
functionality is  mainly for aesthetics. I was on a site yesterday and when you 
checked their box it filled in the ship to inputs. I was like, cool! 

Whether it fills in the inputs or not, I'm using the values from the bill to 
boxes anyway, so they can't screw it up. 

Hope this makes sense. 

Thanks again, I'm working on it now. 

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Re: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and Windows' future

2005-05-27 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Damien McKenna wrote:
> From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> 
>> Who is Bryan J. Smith?
> 
> A local knowledgable geek.

In the land of the blind ...

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RE: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and Windows' future

2005-05-27 Thread Kwang Suh
>He may be talking about the object model?

No, he is not.  I suspect he doesn't know what he's talking about.

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RE: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and Windows' future

2005-05-27 Thread Mike Klostermeyer
"Who's Marc?"
 - No idea

OK, you're right.  Their total assets are only 92,389,000,000, not a
trillion.  In my mind I was adding to that their total impact on the IT
industry, in which case trillion is vastly under-estimated.

My point was this: for the author to insinuate that because some 'Marc' guy
(whom nobody seems to know who the hell he is) left a multi-billion dollar,
market dominating, company is THE sign that the company was 'over' is just
plain stupid, and I feel dumber for having read it.

p.s. I'll allow your silly comparison between MS and the Romans to pass only
to counter-act my silly estimate of MS's financial net worth.

Mike

-Original Message-
From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 1:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and Windows'
future


On 5/27/05, Mike Klostermeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "...once Marc left last year, I think that was the sign that Microsoft is
> over as a software company..."

Who's Marc?

> Yep, couldn't agree more.  I'm tossing all of my MS servers/desktops and
all
> MS software out in the trash today.  That trillion dollar, market
> dominating, company is finished!

It's not trillion, it's billion, was 60 now 30, and the dollar amount
has been steadily falling.

> give me a break...

Rome fall? give me a break...


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RE: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and Windows' futur e

2005-05-27 Thread Dave Watts
> > "...because .NET 2.0 is based on Java 1.4 (thanx to 
> > Microsoft's recent re-license), whereas .NET 1.1 is based on
> > Java 1.1..."
> 
> Why is that foolishness?

While there are many similarities between how .NET and Java work, it is
simply not true that .NET is based on Java, beyond folks at MS saying to
themselves, "hey, the idea of having code run in a VM is a good idea if you
want to run that code in different environments".

> I'm not sure which Marc he's talking about, but they sure do have a
> problem living up to their own hype.  If someone he sees as a key
> developer leaves then he might see their software development
> capabilities tarnished to where the quality deteriorates to the point
> they are unable to compete.

What company doesn't have a problem living up to its own hype? Do you really
think a company the size of Microsoft depends on one key developer, no
matter how smart said developer is?

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Re: Verity and languages

2005-05-27 Thread chad gray
I have run into another problem.

Apparently Linux can only do European languages with verity.  All of the other 
OS's can so double byte like Chinese, Korean, Japanese etc... why cant Linux?

Does anyone have a workaround or a way to get double byte languages in Linux 
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RE: apache and j2ee config with cfmx

2005-05-27 Thread Dave Watts
> I don't think I gave all the details. I have 7 instances of 
> CFMX deployed on JRun4. I have about 20 VHosts for Apache. I 
> thought that I HAD to use different connectors for each VHost 
> because it had to know which JRun proxy to communicate with.

Oh, ok. Each instance requires a different connector. Each vhost does not,
if multiple vhosts share the same instance. However, if you have multiple
instances and multiple Apache virtual hosts, I suspect that each virtual
host will require its own connector. Unfortunately, I don't work enough with
Apache to know for sure. With IIS, this isn't the case.

> I am not sure I am following you, my goal is to do some application 
> separation so that some rogue process within the portal 
> application does not affect other parts of the site. So what I 
> have done was to create another instance of CFMX on JRun and 
> am running my portal application separating. Currently it has a 
> context root of / but I could change it to /portal. but then how 
> do i get the same virtual host to connect to the correct CFMX 
> instance when it comes in? It seems like I can define only 
> one connector per vhost.

Honestly, I don't work enough with multiple context roots using Apache to
tell you exactly how to do this - I'd need to set it up myself first.
However, if each application server instance has a separate context root,
you can connect multiple instances to the same virtual web server. I don't
know if you can do this directly from the wsconfig tool with Apache, though.

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RE: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and Windows' future

2005-05-27 Thread Damien McKenna
> -Original Message-
> From: Kwang Suh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> >> "...because .NET 2.0 is based on Java 1.4 (thanx to 
> >> Microsoft's recent re-license), whereas .NET 1.1 is based on
> >> Java 1.1..."
> >Why is that foolishness?
> 
> Because it's nonsense.
> Besides the fact that .NET isn't "based" (whatever the hell 
> that means) off any version of Java, I think your 
> "knowledgable (sic) geek" meant that C#2.0 resembles Java 
> 1.5.  There are no equivalents to VB.NET and ASP.NET in the 
> J2EE world.

He may be talking about the object model?

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RE: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and Windows' future

2005-05-27 Thread Matthew Small
I've never heard that .NET is based on Java.  Where did that information
come from?  

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RE: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and Windows' future

2005-05-27 Thread Vince Bonfanti
> -Original Message-
> From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 3:07 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and 
> Windows' future
> 

> 
> > These two statements of his strike me as utter foolishness:
> > 
> > "...because .NET 2.0 is based on Java 1.4 (thanx to 
> Microsoft's recent 
> > re-license), whereas .NET 1.1 is based on Java 1.1..."
> 
> Why is that foolishness?
> 

Because it's simply not true, regarding either .NET 1.1 or 2.0.

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RE: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and Windows' future

2005-05-27 Thread Kwang Suh
>> "...because .NET 2.0 is based on Java 1.4 (thanx to 
>> Microsoft's recent re-license), whereas .NET 1.1 is based on
>> Java 1.1..."
>
>Why is that foolishness?

Because it's nonsense.

Besides the fact that .NET isn't "based" (whatever the hell that means) off any 
version of Java, I think your "knowledgable (sic) geek" meant that C#2.0 
resembles Java 1.5.  There are no equivalents to VB.NET and ASP.NET in the J2EE 
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RE: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and Windows' future

2005-05-27 Thread Damien McKenna
> -Original Message-
> From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> Who is Bryan J. Smith?

A local knowledgable geek.

> These two statements of his strike me as utter foolishness:
> 
> "...because .NET 2.0 is based on Java 1.4 (thanx to 
> Microsoft's recent re-license), whereas .NET 1.1 is based on
> Java 1.1..."

Why is that foolishness?

> "...once Marc left last year, I think that was the sign 
> that Microsoft is over as a software company..."

I'm not sure which Marc he's talking about, but they sure do have a
problem living up to their own hype.  If someone he sees as a key
developer leaves then he might see their software development
capabilities tarnished to where the quality deteriorates to the point
they are unable to compete.  He may also have been talking strictly
about the quality of their software as opposed to their monopolistic
abilities to push their latest on the market and have idiot managers and
media lap it up.

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Re: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and Windows' future

2005-05-27 Thread John Dowdell
Rob wrote:
> On 5/27/05, Mike Klostermeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>"...once Marc left last year, I think that was the sign that Microsoft is
>>over as a software company..."
> 
> Who's Marc?

Mark Lucovsky...?
http://mark-lucovsky.blogspot.com/
http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2/0,1995,1772125,00.asp

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RE: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and Windows' future

2005-05-27 Thread Vince Bonfanti
MS's cash reserves have dropped from 60 to 30 billion because they've been
giving it their stockholders as dividends, not because they're losing money
(they're not--MS continues to be the most profitable company in the history
of the world). And don't forget that it took the Roman Empire over 400 years
to fall, depending on where you measure its "peak".

The link came from the original message in this thread:

http://lists.matrixlist.com/pipermail/pc_support/2005-May/000393.html

Vince 

> -Original Message-
> From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 2:36 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and 
> Windows' future
> 
> On 5/27/05, Mike Klostermeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "...once Marc left last year, I think that was the sign 
> that Microsoft 
> > is over as a software company..."
> 
> Who's Marc?
> 
> > Yep, couldn't agree more.  I'm tossing all of my MS 
> servers/desktops 
> > and all MS software out in the trash today.  That trillion dollar, 
> > market dominating, company is finished!
> 
> It's not trillion, it's billion, was 60 now 30, and the 
> dollar amount has been steadily falling.
> 
> > give me a break...
> 
> Rome fall? give me a break...
> 
> 
> Where is that comming from Vince?
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RE: setting session vars to database field values

2005-05-27 Thread daniel kessler
that worked great.  I had to fix a bunch of things but the concept was 
right-on.  and I was about to reply, "gosh darnit, I can't get it to do 
anything..." but nope.  Wonderful.  I get it too.  And nice to know about 
columnlist.  I had some code from someone else that did it my way and that's 
why I was using it but it was very old code.

hey have a great weekend.  I hope to.

> Another hint, when you run a  tag in coldfusion, it returns a 
> list of columns in #queryname.columnlist#.
> 
> So to rewrite you code.
> 
> 

> 
 
> 

> SELECT *

> FROM empower_project_data

> WHERE project_id = #project_id#
  
> 
>   
 
> 
>   
> 
  
> #col#
>   

> 
> 
> 
> Untested and just written in this e-mail, but this should be close to 
> what I THINK you are trying to do.
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Re: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and Windows' future

2005-05-27 Thread Rob
On 5/27/05, Mike Klostermeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "...once Marc left last year, I think that was the sign that Microsoft is
> over as a software company..."

Who's Marc?

> Yep, couldn't agree more.  I'm tossing all of my MS servers/desktops and all
> MS software out in the trash today.  That trillion dollar, market
> dominating, company is finished!

It's not trillion, it's billion, was 60 now 30, and the dollar amount
has been steadily falling.

> give me a break...

Rome fall? give me a break...


Where is that comming from Vince?

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Re: OT Checking for video plugins

2005-05-27 Thread Nathan Mische
Have you looked at BrowserHawk?

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RE: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and Windows' future

2005-05-27 Thread Mike Klostermeyer
"...once Marc left last year, I think that was the sign that Microsoft is
over as a software company..."

Yep, couldn't agree more.  I'm tossing all of my MS servers/desktops and all
MS software out in the trash today.  That trillion dollar, market
dominating, company is finished!

give me a break...

Mike

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 1:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and Windows'
future


Who is Bryan J. Smith? These two statements of his strike me as utter
foolishness:

"...because .NET 2.0 is based on Java 1.4 (thanx to Microsoft's recent
re-license), whereas .NET 1.1 is based on Java 1.1..."

"...once Marc left last year, I think that was the sign that Microsoft
is over as a software company..."

Vince

> -Original Message-
> From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 1:27 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: OT: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and
> Windows' future
>
> While the world is starting to catch on to Longhorn not being
> the promised land it was promoted as over the past five years
> (http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1820686,00.asp
>  ), the
> ties between .NET and Java continue
> (http://lists.matrixlist.com/pipermail/pc_support/2005-May/000393.html
>  393.html>
> ).
>
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RE: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and Windows' future

2005-05-27 Thread Vince Bonfanti
Who is Bryan J. Smith? These two statements of his strike me as utter
foolishness:

"...because .NET 2.0 is based on Java 1.4 (thanx to Microsoft's recent
re-license), whereas .NET 1.1 is based on Java 1.1..."

"...once Marc left last year, I think that was the sign that Microsoft
is over as a software company..."

Vince

> -Original Message-
> From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 1:27 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: OT: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and 
> Windows' future
> 
> While the world is starting to catch on to Longhorn not being 
> the promised land it was promoted as over the past five years 
> (http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1820686,00.asp
>  ), the 
> ties between .NET and Java continue 
> (http://lists.matrixlist.com/pipermail/pc_support/2005-May/000393.html
>  393.html>
> ).
>  
> --
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Re: apache and j2ee config with cfmx

2005-05-27 Thread jw
> 
> You can either configure CFMX to use a separate connector for each virtual
> web server, or one connector for all virtual web servers. I don't have a 
> lot
> of experience setting this up for Apache - our clients using Apache
> typically have a single virtual server - but I'd guess that you originally
> had separate connectors for each virtual server and now you don't. This
> doesn't generally matter unless you want to customize functionality on a
> per-virtual-server basis.


I don't think I gave all the details. I have 7 instances of CFMX deployed on 
JRun4. I have about 20 VHosts for Apache. I thought that I HAD to use 
different connectors for each VHost because it had to know which JRun proxy 
to communicate with. Here is an example of a VHost I have: 


ServerName portal.mysite.com 

DocumentRoot /usr/local/home/portal
Alias /CFIDE/ 
"/usr/local/jrun4/servers/portal/cfusion-ear/cfusion-war/CFIDE/"


order deny,allow
deny from all
allow from 192.


order allow,deny
allow from all

JRunConfig Serverstore /usr/local/jrun4/lib/wsconfig/portal/jrunserver.store
JRunConfig BootStrap 127.0.0.1:51000 


Here is how I load the JRun module before all my VHosts:

LoadModule jrun_module /usr/local/jrun4/lib/wsconfig/1/mod_jrun20.so

JRunConfig Verbose false
JRunConfig Apialloc false
JRunConfig Ssl false
JRunConfig Ignoresuffixmap false
#JRunConfig Serverstore /usr/local/jrun4/lib/wsconfig/1/jrunserver.store
#JRunConfig Bootstrap 127.0.0.1:51020 
#JRunConfig Errorurl 
AddHandler jrun-handler .jws .cfm .cfml .cfc



I thought it was required to define the Serverstore and the BootStrap so 
that it could communicate to the correct instance of CFMX on JRun. 

Like I said after I ran the wsconfig command, it deleted all of the wsconfig 
subfolders. I know before that if they were not there, nothing would work, 
but is still working. Even after a restart of both jrun and apache. 


Yes, you can do this by specifying context roots for each CFMX/JRun
> instance. Typically, you do this by running the EAR/WAR install option,
> during which you can specify your context root. Otherwise, I think you can
> change your context root by editing one of the myriad xml configuration
> files - I don't know which offhand. I'm pretty sure there are some 
> articles
> about using context roots on the MM Devnet.
> 

I am not sure I am following you, my goal is to do some application 
separation so that some rogue process within the portal application does not 
affect other parts of the site. So what I have done was to create another 
instance of CFMX on JRun and am running my portal application separating. 
Currently it has a context root of / but I could change it to /portal. but 
then how do i get the same virtual host to connect to the correct CFMX 
instance when it comes in? It seems like I can define only one connector per 
vhost.

There might be a simpler way to do this, but I do not know exactly how.

thanks for you help so far,
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Re: How to deal with the african money scams

2005-05-27 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Katz, Dov B (IT) wrote:
> 
> I have a site. It requires user registration to communicate with other
> users.  The communication is sent via email.  Users who register are
> reuqired to confirm their randomly assigned password via email before
> completing registration.
> 
> So, lets say we have one such newly registered user, who decides to
> communicate with other users on my site, by sending this stuff out to
> them.
> 
> How do I prevent a registered user on my site from easily blasting
> others with these types of message.

While it is a good idea to implement such a mechanism, since it 
will also stop scammers in other regions, how much business would 
you really lose if you just firewalled that IP, ISP, country or 
continent?

Presuming you don't have any legitimate customers using that ISP, 
I would just block the entire netblock of that ISP.  Put up a 
scheduled task that does a weekly check of AfriNIC to see if the 
timestamp on the record changed so you catch any changes to the 
range. 
http://www.afrinic.net/cgi-bin/whois?searchtext=213.136.122.149

You can implement this in CF code, in the webserver, in the 
server or even in the router (you would just block AS 29571).


> Is there an open database or filter web service I could compare the
> attempted-to-be-sent message to see whether it is spam before I CFMAIL
> it?   Should I just keep a message-send counter which counts similar
> messages sent during an existing session and lock down the ability to
> send more than X messages per Y minutes per session?

I think rate limiting is a good way to start.

Jochem

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RE: setting session vars to database field values

2005-05-27 Thread Ian Skinner
Another hint, when you run a  tag in coldfusion, it returns a list of 
columns in #queryname.columnlist#.

So to rewrite you code.



 
SELECT *
FROM empower_project_data
WHERE project_id = #project_id#
  

 

  
  #col#




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Re: How to deal with the african money scams

2005-05-27 Thread Adrocknaphobia
Well, speaking with guys at SS, the short story is that SS was at one
time one of the more technically advanced bureaus. SS and FBI used to
be responsible for online fraud, in a very competitive sense. After
9/11 they shook hands and now there is a separation between
hacking/intrusion (FBI) and fraud (SS). However the FBI guys says SS
still tries to beat them to the punch on corporate network incidents.

SS is actually part of DHS now, no longer Treasury.

-Adam

On 5/27/05, Matt Osbun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> IIRC, the Secret Service is a part of the Treasury Department, so this
> makes a degree of sense.
> 
> Although that does lead to the question of how guarding U.S. politicians
> falls into their scope of service.
> 
> Matt Osbun
> Web Developer
> Health Systems, International
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 4:32 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: How to deal with the african money scams
> 
> 
> On 5/26/05, Adrocknaphobia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Report them to the Secret Service. (Honestly, I know, but Secret
> > Service is the government branch that goes after online fraud)
> 
> WHAT?!?
> 
> Actually I shouldn't laugh.  When I saw the first one of these several
> years ago I actually called the local branch of the US Secret Service
> to report it.  I got about three lines into the description and the
> case officer interrupted me with a very bored "Yeah yeah its in
> Nigeria, right?"  Followed by "we know.  Don't worry about it."
> 
> I'm sure they are still in hot pursuit of that lead.
> 
> --
> --mattRobertson--
> Janitor, MSB Web Systems
> mysecretbase.com
> 
> 
> 
> 

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OT: Regarding Java and .NET's incestuous ties, and Windows' future

2005-05-27 Thread Damien McKenna
While the world is starting to catch on to Longhorn not being the
promised land it was promoted as over the past five years
(http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1820686,00.asp
 ),
the ties between .NET and Java continue
(http://lists.matrixlist.com/pipermail/pc_support/2005-May/000393.html

).
 
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RE: setting session vars to database field values

2005-05-27 Thread daniel kessler
I couldn't get this one to work but I did get it to work with the 
"session.#column_name#". It now gives a different message that a column is 
undefined.  I'll go looking into that now and see how it goes.  Maybe once I 
fix that problem, this version will work too.  The problem may be that I have 
no records yet.  I'll see.

thanks!


>Or much easier
>
>
>
>
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> 
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>- Cynthia Dunning
>
>...-Original Message-
>...From: Ben Mueller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>...Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 8:32 AM
>...To: CF-Talk
>...Subject: setting session vars to database field values
>...
>...I'm pretty sure that you don't need the evaluate in the first part of
>...your ...
>..evaluate('project_retrieval.#column_name#')>
>...
>...The evaluate statement is going to try to return a value, but you don't
>...have a value for session.#column_name# yet.
>...
>...Try this instead:
>...
>..evaluate("project_retrieval.#column_name#")>
>...
>...There may be other issues with your code, but that's the one that stood
>...out to me.
>...
>...
>...
>...>I have a database with an unknown field set.  I want to take whatever
>...>is in the DB and make a session variable for it.
>...>
>...>
>...> 
>...> 
>...> select column_name
>...> from user_tab_columns
>...> where upper(table_name) = upper('empower_project_data')
>...> ORDER BY column_name
>...> 
>...>
>...> 
>...>SELECT *
>...>FROM empower_project_data
>...>WHERE project_id = #project_id#
>...>  
>...>
>...>
>...>
>...>   
>...>
>...>   
>...>  #column_name#
>...>
>...>  
>...>  ...>evaluate('project_retrieval.#column_name#')>
>...>
>...>
>...>
>...>This gives an error that you can't set a value to a function, which I
>...>understand.  I'm not sure how to set a session var where I want it to
>...>be the same name as the column in the database, without knowing that
>...>column name ahead of time.
>...>
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RE: apache and j2ee config with cfmx

2005-05-27 Thread Dave Watts
> First. I just added a another instance of coldfusion to my 
> jrun container and ran the wsconfig to configure it for my 
> new app. When I ran wsconf it deleted all of the folders that
> i had for each instances that contained the jrun.serverstore 
> files. ( $JRUN_HOM/lib/wsconfig/appname ) i stopped jrun and 
> my webserver and restarted everything and everything is 
> working but i do not understand how/why cause in my httpd.conf 
> file for each virtual host directive references the 
> folders/jrun.serverstore file that was deleted by wsconfig. how 
> is apache and jrun communication? did i ever need those 
> folders for each of my instances of cfmx? 

You can either configure CFMX to use a separate connector for each virtual
web server, or one connector for all virtual web servers. I don't have a lot
of experience setting this up for Apache - our clients using Apache
typically have a single virtual server - but I'd guess that you originally
had separate connectors for each virtual server and now you don't. This
doesn't generally matter unless you want to customize functionality on a
per-virtual-server basis.

> Secondly. i am trying to create some application serperation 
> of some of our bigger apps, but they are part of the same 
> virtual host. is there a way to have multiple jrun(cfmx) 
> applications defined inside the same virtual host? 
> 
> for example, I want 
> 
> mysite.com/*  to be served by one 
> coldfusion instances mysite.com/portal 
>  to be servered by a different 
> one

Yes, you can do this by specifying context roots for each CFMX/JRun
instance. Typically, you do this by running the EAR/WAR install option,
during which you can specify your context root. Otherwise, I think you can
change your context root by editing one of the myriad xml configuration
files - I don't know which offhand. I'm pretty sure there are some articles
about using context roots on the MM Devnet.

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RE: cfcomponent/function inheritence issue?

2005-05-27 Thread Dave Watts
> If you do this:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Then s is not a struct, but a pointer to mystruct, so 
> whenever you set a property of s, you are in fact setting a 
> property of mystruct.

There are two things worth pointing out here, I think. The first, trivial,
point is that I think you meant to type "". The second and more important point is that there's a subtle
error in your conclusion. While "s" would be a pointer to a structure rather
than the structure itself, so would "mystruct"! That is, when you do this:



the variable "mystruct" is just a reference to a structure object.

When you then do this:



you now have two references to the same structure object. Neither reference
is the thing itself - they are just both names you can use to get to the
thing itself. Here's a description of stack and heap allocation in Python,
which is for our purposes similar enough to how things work in CF:

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/tutor/2001-July/007318.html

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Re: Robot.txt question... security issue?

2005-05-27 Thread Rob
Hacker:

Originally, a hacker was someone who made furniture with an axe. In
computing slang it is a person who enjoys exploring the details of
programmable systems and how to stretch their capabilities, as opposed
to most users, who prefer to learn only the minimum necessary. Also,
one who programs enthusiastically (even obsessively) or who enjoys
programming rather than just theorizing about programming.

Although this term has come to refer to a 'computer vandal,' or 'one
who breaks, unauthorized, into other peoples' computer systems' in the
popular media, it does not have such negative connotations in computer
circles. Rather, a 'hacker' has traditionally meant a computer
programmer (not a mere user) of breathtaking technical and creative
proficiency. Steven Levy offers a sympathetic portrayal of hackers,
and the motivations that drive them, in his 1984 book of the same
name. (Levy, 1984.) See also nerd, geek, guru, wizard.

I think the term you mean is "criminal" not hacker.


On 5/27/05, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Che Vilnonis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 11:49 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Robot.txt question... security issue?
> >
> > Jim, that is the recommendation I told my boss. :)
> >
> > The client in question is being audited by Visa/Mastercard and they are
> > using a 'canned' software package/service to perform the audit. In the
> > future, that recommendation may become a requirement in order to help stop
> > online fraud.
> 
> I'm familiar with the drill (I work for a big financial company myself).
> 
> Like I said - I think it's worth it for the audit to bring up, it's just one
> of those things that doesn't seem doable.
> 
> Just to clear however I assume that the directories listed in the Robots.txt
> file are actually linked from the site, right?  A log in form, a protected
> link, etc?
> 
> If they are then any hacker would start there in any case.  If they're not
> then you probably don't need to include them in the Robots file anyway - how
> could a search engine "find" them?  (Although I'd err on the side of safety
> and leave them in anyway just in case somebody links them later.)
> 
> Jim Davis
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: cfcomponent/function inheritance issue?

2005-05-27 Thread Ben Mueller
Good to know.  Thanks, Ian.

> The way you are using init() it is unnecessary.  You can do this in 
> the components pseudo constructor.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
.
> 
> 
> Anything that is placed between the opening  and the 
> first  will always be run.  The main problem with this is 
> there is no way to pass arguments to the "constructor".  If one needs 
> the constructor then, the init() function is the way to go.
> 
> 
> 
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> 
.
> -Original Message-
.
> From: Ben Mueller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
.
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 8:27 AM
.
> To: CF-Talk
.
> Subject: cfcomponent/function inheritence issue?
.
> 
.
> I've just started learning cfcomponents as of a few days ago, and 
> have
.
> liked what I've seen so far, but I'm having what I think is an
.
> inheritence issue.
.
> 
.
> I have a component with three functions:  an init, and then two other
.
> functions.  The init function sets a bunch of variables that I'd like 
> to
.
> have access to throughout the component.  The other functions invoke 
> the
.
> init function if the init variables haven't been set yet.
.
> 
.
> In each function, I'd like to return the global vars returned by the 
> init
.
> function, plus a bunch of stuff unique to each function.  The trouble 
> is
.
> that the variables from the first function call end up as part of the
.
> overall instance data, and are then somehow getting returned in
.
> subsequent function calls.
.
> 
.
> I'm sure it's something silly, but here's my sample code:
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> and here's how I'm invoking it:
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> What I would expect from the first cfdump is a structure containing 
> the
.
> "initvar" and "func1var"; and from the second cfdump a structure with
.
> "initvar" and "func2var".  However, my second cfdump call returns
.
> "initvar", "func1var" and "func2var".
.
> 
.
> So, it would seem that the line of code where I declare this in my 
> first
.
> function:
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> is not only setting s to the value of mystruct, but also the other 
> way
.
> around.  That is a surprise to me.
.
> 
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> Any help is appreciated.
.
> 
.
> Thanks in advance,
.
> Ben Mueller
.
> 
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RE: cfcomponent/function inheritence issue?

2005-05-27 Thread Dave Watts
> Thanks again for the suggestions.  Last question, I swear:  
> why do you not like using the  tag at the top of 
> your components?  That seems to be the cleanest solution, 
> since you don't have to explicitly call the init function 
> outside of the component.  Is there a performance hit to this 
> method, or do you simply prefer to not have functionality 
> buried in your components that resides outside of the functions?

There are two reasons why you might want to do this. First, it's
unnecessarily complicated. Why have the init function if you're going to
call it without passing arguments? Why not just create the instance
variables directly? Second, you may not want to create the instance
variables unless you explicitly call an init function when you instantiate
the component, because it's my understanding that those variables will also
be created when CF instantiates the component to look at its metadata (for
example, when you browse it to see the system-generated documentation).

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RE: Search questions

2005-05-27 Thread Dave Watts
> You can create a single collection contains both File and Path 
> index entries, but that collection cannot also contain Custom index 
> entries. This is because while both File and Path index entries 
> are based on disk files as indexing targets, Custom index entries
> are based on database content as an indexing target, so the 
> configuration of Custom entries cannot coexist in the same collection.

Actually, this is incorrect. You can use database and filesystem content
within the same Verity collection if you're using the Verity VDK as opposed
to K2. When you search the collection, you can differentiate between
database and filesystem results by looking at the key column, which will
contain a filesystem path if the result points to a file, or whatever you
put in there (presumably a primary key or some custom unique identifier) if
the result points to a database record.

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RE: Robot.txt question... security issue?

2005-05-27 Thread Dave Watts
> A client of ours recently had a security audit on their web 
> site. The audit recommended that we remove all 'disallow: /xyz/' 
> entries since a potential hacker could read the robots.txt file 
> and surmise which folders may be sensitive.
> 
> Here's my question, if I remove all of the [disallow: /xyz/] 
> lines from the robots.txt file, how do I stop the search engines 
> from indexing those directories?

Unfortunately, this kind of information leakage is largely unavoidable. For
most security audits, you may have to provide a case-by-case justification
for each line within robots.txt explaining why the information leakage isn't
important - for example, if the URL patterns in question don't actually lead
to sensitive information. Very often, they don't.

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RE: Invalid precision value

2005-05-27 Thread Dave Watts
> I am receiving the following CF error:
> 
> Error Executing Database Query.  
> [Macromedia][SequeLink JDBC Driver][ODBC 
> Socket][Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver]Invalid 
> precision value  
> 
> If I try to run the query directly from MS Access, using the 
> same SQL, I receive no error and the results are returned properly.
> 
> Any ideas on this one?
> 
> The SQL is:
> 
> SELECT * FROM foo 
> WHERE targetCoStage LIKE '%Start-up%' 
> AND targetCoStage LIKE '%Development%' 
> AND targetCoStage LIKE '%Early Stage%' 
> AND targetCoStage LIKE '%Late Stage%' 
> AND targetCoStage LIKE '%Middle Stage%'
> AND UpdateStatus = 'Updated' 
> AND 0 = 0 
> ORDER BY ID ASC
> 
> The query above will run successfully in CF as long as I have 
> no more than four "AND" clauses.  Once I add a fifth, no 
> matter what the clause is, CF chokes, but Access is fine.
> 
> The "targetCoStage" column contains a comma delimited values, e.g.:
> 
> "Start-up,Growth,Development,Early Stage"

I don't have an answer for the question you asked, but I think you're asking
the wrong question.

First, instead of having a column which contains a comma-delimited list,
you'd probably be better off with a lookup table with those values instead,
and an intersection table between your table and the lookup table. Your
database doesn't appear to be in third normal form, and it should be.

Second, instead of doing a bunch of LIKE searches to find values within
database columns, you'd probably be better off using full-text indexing.
Searching for a string in the middle of a larger string using LIKE is very
expensive, since your database can't use indexes for such a search.
Fortunately, CF comes with Verity, which is ideal for these sorts of
searches. Of course, if you redesign the database properly you can avoid
this kind of search in this specific case, but you may run into future cases
where full-text indexing is the better approach.

Finally, you might try using the Access with Unicode driver instead. This
driver uses ADODB instead of ODBC, I think, so it may not suffer from the
same limitations. To see if it's an ODBC limitation, you could try running
the query from an ODBC client directly (like MS Query) rather than from CF.

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RE: cfcomponent/function inheritence issue?

2005-05-27 Thread Ben Mueller
Thanks again for the suggestions.  Last question, I swear:  why do you not like 
using the  tag at the top of your components?  That seems to be the 
cleanest solution, since you don't have to explicitly call the init function 
outside of the component.  Is there a performance hit to this method, or do you 
simply prefer to not have functionality buried in your components that resides 
outside of the functions?




>Well, theres a lot of answers to that question, but heres two:
>
>
>Way I would do it:
>
>
> testcom = createobject("component","path.to.component");
> testcom.init();
>
>
>
>Another way, which I wouldnt do:
>
>
>
>
>   init();
>
>
>
>   
>   
>
>
>

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RE: One more try... 7 >= 7?

2005-05-27 Thread Pat Wenke
Rick -

Try setting max pooled statements to 0 in CF admin for the problematic
datasource(s).  

I've seen "x >= x" errors and "Variable cannot be converted to requested
type" errors when adding / removing columns from tables.

Changing the max pooled statements setting fixed our problem.

See more in the thread below.

http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/messages.cfm/Threadid=34563&forumi
d=4𪣞


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-Original Message-
From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 7:57 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: One more try... 7 >= 7?

Anyone ever seen this?

Error Occurred While Processing Request
7 >= 7

the query is a simple select query...

SELECT * FROM GALLERY_PHOTOS
where
blog_id=
and gallery_id=

This is occuring in SQL Server 2000... sporadically, according to the 
person who reported the bug.  I can't duplicate it though.

Rick




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RE: cfcomponent/function inheritance issue?

2005-05-27 Thread Ian Skinner
The way you are using init() it is unnecessary.  You can do this in the 
components pseudo constructor.  











Anything that is placed between the opening  and the first 
 will always be run.  The main problem with this is there is no way 
to pass arguments to the "constructor".  If one needs the constructor then, the 
init() function is the way to go.



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-Original Message-
From: Ben Mueller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 8:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cfcomponent/function inheritence issue?

I've just started learning cfcomponents as of a few days ago, and have
liked what I've seen so far, but I'm having what I think is an
inheritence issue.

I have a component with three functions:  an init, and then two other
functions.  The init function sets a bunch of variables that I'd like to
have access to throughout the component.  The other functions invoke the
init function if the init variables haven't been set yet.

In each function, I'd like to return the global vars returned by the init
function, plus a bunch of stuff unique to each function.  The trouble is
that the variables from the first function call end up as part of the
overall instance data, and are then somehow getting returned in
subsequent function calls.

I'm sure it's something silly, but here's my sample code:





























.and here's how I'm invoking it:









What I would expect from the first cfdump is a structure containing the
"initvar" and "func1var"; and from the second cfdump a structure with
"initvar" and "func2var".  However, my second cfdump call returns
"initvar", "func1var" and "func2var".

So, it would seem that the line of code where I declare this in my first
function:



is not only setting s to the value of mystruct, but also the other way
around.  That is a surprise to me.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Ben Mueller








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RE: cfcomponent/function inheritence issue?

2005-05-27 Thread Kerry
> how can I ensure that my init function is called
Well, theres a lot of answers to that question, but heres two:


Way I would do it:


 testcom = createobject("component","path.to.component");
 testcom.init();



Another way, which I wouldnt do:




init();











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From: Ben Mueller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 May 2005 17:15
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cfcomponent/function inheritence issue?


Kerry,

Thanks for your help.  You're certainly right about the duplicate
function...and of course I should have known that already.

But I'm a little confused about your statement that I shouldn't do this:



I could call any function in my component at any time, so I have no way of
guaranteeing that init has been called previously.  If the above code is not
advised, then how can I ensure that my init function is called?


>If you do this:
>
>
>
>
>Then s is not a struct, but a pointer to mystruct, so whenever you set a
>property of s, you are in fact setting a property of mystruct.
>
>
>Also, personally, theres no way i would do this:
>
>
>
>
>I would do:
>
>
>
>if mystruct isnt defined, then the component hasnt been inited, which means
>the code isnt right, and an error should be thrown.



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RE: One more try... 7 >= 7?

2005-05-27 Thread Pat Wenke
What version of CFMX?  I've seen similar with older drivers (pre 6.1
Updater).



-Original Message-
From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 7:57 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: One more try... 7 >= 7?

Anyone ever seen this?

Error Occurred While Processing Request
7 >= 7

the query is a simple select query...

SELECT * FROM GALLERY_PHOTOS
where
blog_id=
and gallery_id=

This is occuring in SQL Server 2000... sporadically, according to the 
person who reported the bug.  I can't duplicate it though.

Rick




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Verity & PDFs w/ Embedded Fonts

2005-05-27 Thread Gruss Gott
I'm having a problem indexing PDFs with verity and I'm hoping one of
you can help.

let's say there's this string in the PDF: "34-10-22"  When Verity
indexes it, if I search for "34-10-22" I won't get any hits, but if I
search for "341022" I get the right page.  So it's as if Verity skips
the special characters.  Any ideas how to fix this?

Thanks!

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RE: cfcomponent/function inheritence issue?

2005-05-27 Thread Ben Mueller
Kerry,

Thanks for your help.  You're certainly right about the duplicate 
function...and of course I should have known that already.

But I'm a little confused about your statement that I shouldn't do this:



I could call any function in my component at any time, so I have no way of 
guaranteeing that init has been called previously.  If the above code is not 
advised, then how can I ensure that my init function is called?


>If you do this:
>
>
>
>
>Then s is not a struct, but a pointer to mystruct, so whenever you set a
>property of s, you are in fact setting a property of mystruct.
>
>
>Also, personally, theres no way i would do this:
>
>
>
>
>I would do:
>
>
>
>if mystruct isnt defined, then the component hasnt been inited, which means
>the code isnt right, and an error should be thrown.

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Re: How to make my checkbox insert values

2005-05-27 Thread Ken Ferguson
The answer to your ? is easy, but you have to look at it from an 
end-user point of view.

My shipping address is only slightly different from my billing address, 
so as a customer it's nice to be able to check the box and then only 
have to change the addr2 field instead of having to retype all of the 
info when that's the only field I need to change.

--Ferg


Michael T. Tangorre wrote:

>Will,
>
>This is one thing I never understood. If you offer a checkbox to specify
>whether or not the billing and shipping are the same why would you copy the
>values over if the checkbox is selected... just for aesthetics? Why not just
>check the checkbox value in your action page?
>
>
>
>  
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CFMX7 installation Problems

2005-05-27 Thread Trevor Holm-Laursen
Hey All, 

 

We are in the process of setting up a new server to host our clients on and
have run into some problems.  We installed MX7 onto the box with no issues
and were able to run the administrator and test sites.  We then installed
our control panel, Plesk 7.02, and we lose MX7.  No pages will run, we just
get Page not found.  The company that makes Plesk, SWSoft, says they will
have an MX7 patch out by the fall but we have clients we need to setup on
this server that are using MX7 features, so going back to 6.1 is not an
option.  Has anyone else tried this and found a workaround or can recommend
another control panel that will setup sites in IIS6 including DNS,
Directories etc.

 

Thanks, 

 

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RE: Robot.txt question... security issue?

2005-05-27 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message-
> From: Che Vilnonis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 11:49 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Robot.txt question... security issue?
> 
> Jim, that is the recommendation I told my boss. :)
> 
> The client in question is being audited by Visa/Mastercard and they are
> using a 'canned' software package/service to perform the audit. In the
> future, that recommendation may become a requirement in order to help stop
> online fraud.

I'm familiar with the drill (I work for a big financial company myself).

Like I said - I think it's worth it for the audit to bring up, it's just one
of those things that doesn't seem doable.

Just to clear however I assume that the directories listed in the Robots.txt
file are actually linked from the site, right?  A log in form, a protected
link, etc?

If they are then any hacker would start there in any case.  If they're not
then you probably don't need to include them in the Robots file anyway - how
could a search engine "find" them?  (Although I'd err on the side of safety
and leave them in anyway just in case somebody links them later.)

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Re: OT: DB schema diagram, now what?

2005-05-27 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus
You realize that Visio will do all of that diagramming and
relationships automatically, right?  It kind of sounds like you built
the diagram manually...

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RE: cfcomponent/function inheritence issue?

2005-05-27 Thread Kerry
If you do this:




Then s is not a struct, but a pointer to mystruct, so whenever you set a
property of s, you are in fact setting a property of mystruct.


Also, personally, theres no way i would do this:




I would do:



if mystruct isnt defined, then the component hasnt been inited, which means
the code isnt right, and an error should be thrown.









-Original Message-
From: Ben Mueller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 May 2005 16:27
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cfcomponent/function inheritence issue?


I've just started learning cfcomponents as of a few days ago, and have liked
what I've seen so far, but I'm having what I think is an inheritence issue.

I have a component with three functions:  an init, and then two other
functions.  The init function sets a bunch of variables that I'd like to
have access to throughout the component.  The other functions invoke the
init function if the init variables haven't been set yet.

In each function, I'd like to return the global vars returned by the init
function, plus a bunch of stuff unique to each function.  The trouble is
that the variables from the first function call end up as part of the
overall instance data, and are then somehow getting returned in subsequent
function calls.

I'm sure it's something silly, but here's my sample code:





























..and here's how I'm invoking it:









What I would expect from the first cfdump is a structure containing the
"initvar" and "func1var"; and from the second cfdump a structure with
"initvar" and "func2var".  However, my second cfdump call returns "initvar",
"func1var" and "func2var".

So, it would seem that the line of code where I declare this in my first
function:



is not only setting s to the value of mystruct, but also the other way
around.  That is a surprise to me.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Ben Mueller








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RE: Robot.txt question... security issue?

2005-05-27 Thread Che Vilnonis
Jim, that is the recommendation I told my boss. :)

The client in question is being audited by Visa/Mastercard and they are
using a 'canned' software package/service to perform the audit. In the
future, that recommendation may become a requirement in order to help stop
online fraud.

Thanks, Che

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From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 11:39 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Robot.txt question... security issue?


> -Original Message-
> From: Che Vilnonis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 7:30 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Robot.txt question... security issue?
>
> A client of ours recently had a security audit on their web site. The
> audit
> recommended that we remove all 'disallow: /xyz/' entries since a potential
> hacker could read the robots.txt file and surmise which folders may be
> sensitive.
>
> Here's my question, if I remove all of the [disallow: /xyz/] lines from
> the
> robots.txt file, how do I stop the search engines from indexing those
> directories?

I would personally ignore the recommendation.  ;^)

(Or more specifically, consider the ramifications of the recommendation and
the choose not to follow it.)

It's like saying that putting a lock on a door let's thieves know that
there's something to protect behind it.  While it may be true that doesn't
mean you don't put a lock on it.

In other words they are correct in that the contents of the Robots.txt might
give hackers a clue, but so will form actions and many other things - that
doesn't mean you shouldn't use them.

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RE: Robot.txt question... security issue?

2005-05-27 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message-
> From: Che Vilnonis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 7:30 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Robot.txt question... security issue?
> 
> A client of ours recently had a security audit on their web site. The
> audit
> recommended that we remove all 'disallow: /xyz/' entries since a potential
> hacker could read the robots.txt file and surmise which folders may be
> sensitive.
> 
> Here's my question, if I remove all of the [disallow: /xyz/] lines from
> the
> robots.txt file, how do I stop the search engines from indexing those
> directories?

I would personally ignore the recommendation.  ;^)

(Or more specifically, consider the ramifications of the recommendation and
the choose not to follow it.)

It's like saying that putting a lock on a door let's thieves know that
there's something to protect behind it.  While it may be true that doesn't
mean you don't put a lock on it.

In other words they are correct in that the contents of the Robots.txt might
give hackers a clue, but so will form actions and many other things - that
doesn't mean you shouldn't use them.

Jim Davis





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RE: setting session vars to database field values

2005-05-27 Thread Ian Skinner
Or much easier




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-Original Message-
From: Ben Mueller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 8:32 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: setting session vars to database field values

I'm pretty sure that you don't need the evaluate in the first part of
your 

The evaluate statement is going to try to return a value, but you don't
have a value for session.#column_name# yet.

Try this instead:



There may be other issues with your code, but that's the one that stood
out to me.



>I have a database with an unknown field set.  I want to take whatever
>is in the DB and make a session variable for it.
>
>
> 
> 
> select column_name
> from user_tab_columns
> where upper(table_name) = upper('empower_project_data')
> ORDER BY column_name
> 
>
> 
>SELECT *
>FROM empower_project_data
>WHERE project_id = #project_id#
>  
>
>
>
>   
>
>   
>  #column_name#
>
>  
>  evaluate('project_retrieval.#column_name#')>
>
>
>
>This gives an error that you can't set a value to a function, which I
>understand.  I'm not sure how to set a session var where I want it to
>be the same name as the column in the database, without knowing that
>column name ahead of time.
>
>--
>Daniel Kessler
>
>Department of Public and Community Health
>University of Maryland
>Suite 2387 Valley Drive
>College Park, MD  20742-2611
>301-405-2545 Phone
>www.phi.umd.edu



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RE: Robot.txt question... security issue?

2005-05-27 Thread Che Vilnonis
the directories that need to be protected are protected...
i suppose that would be protection enough from robots, correct?

keep in mind, this is a recommendation auditing service and not a
requirement. I posted this question just to see if anyone had done anything
special if and when they were audited.

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-Original Message-
From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 11:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Robot.txt question... security issue?


Can you, or are you able to, password protect the directories?  IIS Auth?
htaccess?  IP restrictions?

-Original Message-
From: Che Vilnonis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 7:30 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Robot.txt question... security issue?

A client of ours recently had a security audit on their web site. The audit
recommended that we remove all 'disallow: /xyz/' entries since a potential
hacker could read the robots.txt file and surmise which folders may be
sensitive.

Here's my question, if I remove all of the [disallow: /xyz/] lines from the
robots.txt file, how do I stop the search engines from indexing those
directories?

Thanks, Che






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setting session vars to database field values

2005-05-27 Thread Ben Mueller
I'm pretty sure that you don't need the evaluate in the first part of your 


The evaluate statement is going to try to return a value, but you don't have a 
value for session.#column_name# yet.

Try this instead:



There may be other issues with your code, but that's the one that stood out to 
me.



>I have a database with an unknown field set.  I want to take whatever 
>is in the DB and make a session variable for it.
>
>
> 
> 
> select column_name
> from user_tab_columns
> where upper(table_name) = upper('empower_project_data')
> ORDER BY column_name
> 
>
> 
>SELECT *
>FROM empower_project_data
>WHERE project_id = #project_id#
>  
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
>   
>  #column_name#
>
>  
>  evaluate('project_retrieval.#column_name#')>
>
>
>
>This gives an error that you can't set a value to a function, which I 
>understand.  I'm not sure how to set a session var where I want it to 
>be the same name as the column in the database, without knowing that 
>column name ahead of time.
>
>-- 
>Daniel Kessler
>
>Department of Public and Community Health
>University of Maryland
>Suite 2387 Valley Drive
>College Park, MD  20742-2611
>301-405-2545 Phone
>www.phi.umd.edu

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RE: Robot.txt question... security issue?

2005-05-27 Thread Jacob
Can you, or are you able to, password protect the directories?  IIS Auth?
htaccess?  IP restrictions?

-Original Message-
From: Che Vilnonis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 7:30 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Robot.txt question... security issue?

A client of ours recently had a security audit on their web site. The audit
recommended that we remove all 'disallow: /xyz/' entries since a potential
hacker could read the robots.txt file and surmise which folders may be
sensitive.

Here's my question, if I remove all of the [disallow: /xyz/] lines from the
robots.txt file, how do I stop the search engines from indexing those
directories?

Thanks, Che




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Re: Robot.txt question... security issue?

2005-05-27 Thread Chris Norloff
I think the distinction needs to be make between what's sensitive and what you 
don't want to be indexed by a spider.

If the information is sensitive, it shouldn't be where a spider can get to it 
at all - and robots.txt is no protection. 

If the information just shouldn't be indexed, then robots.txt will work ... at 
least for well-behaved spiders.

Chris Norloff


-- Original Message --
From: "Che Vilnonis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Date:  Fri, 27 May 2005 10:30:08 -0400

>A client of ours recently had a security audit on their web site. The audit
>recommended that we remove all 'disallow: /xyz/' entries since a potential
>hacker could read the robots.txt file and surmise which folders may be
>sensitive.
>
>Here's my question, if I remove all of the [disallow: /xyz/] lines from the
>robots.txt file, how do I stop the search engines from indexing those
>directories?
>
>Thanks, Che
>
>
>

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cfcomponent/function inheritence issue?

2005-05-27 Thread Ben Mueller
I've just started learning cfcomponents as of a few days ago, and have liked 
what I've seen so far, but I'm having what I think is an inheritence issue.  

I have a component with three functions:  an init, and then two other 
functions.  The init function sets a bunch of variables that I'd like to have 
access to throughout the component.  The other functions invoke the init 
function if the init variables haven't been set yet.

In each function, I'd like to return the global vars returned by the init 
function, plus a bunch of stuff unique to each function.  The trouble is that 
the variables from the first function call end up as part of the overall 
instance data, and are then somehow getting returned in subsequent function 
calls.

I'm sure it's something silly, but here's my sample code:





























.and here's how I'm invoking it:









What I would expect from the first cfdump is a structure containing the 
"initvar" and "func1var"; and from the second cfdump a structure with "initvar" 
and "func2var".  However, my second cfdump call returns "initvar", "func1var" 
and "func2var".

So, it would seem that the line of code where I declare this in my first 
function:



is not only setting s to the value of mystruct, but also the other way around.  
That is a surprise to me.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Ben Mueller






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setting session vars to database field values

2005-05-27 Thread Daniel Kessler
I have a database with an unknown field set.  I want to take whatever 
is in the DB and make a session variable for it.


 
 
 select column_name
 from user_tab_columns
 where upper(table_name) = upper('empower_project_data')
 ORDER BY column_name
 

 
SELECT *
FROM empower_project_data
WHERE project_id = #project_id#
  
 
 
 

 

  #column_name#

  
  



This gives an error that you can't set a value to a function, which I 
understand.  I'm not sure how to set a session var where I want it to 
be the same name as the column in the database, without knowing that 
column name ahead of time.

-- 
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Department of Public and Community Health
University of Maryland
Suite 2387 Valley Drive
College Park, MD  20742-2611
301-405-2545 Phone
www.phi.umd.edu

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RE: How to make my checkbox insert values

2005-05-27 Thread Connie DeCinko
On my form, I actually hide the ship to if they check the box that the
addresses are the same.


-Original Message-
From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 7:54 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How to make my checkbox insert values

> From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> In my cart app there's the billing/shipping info page. I'm 
> using cfform. 
> 
> Is there a way to make my "use billing info for ship to info" 
> checkbox automatically insert the values that were entered in 
> the billing part into the ship to cfinputs? 

Will,

This is one thing I never understood. If you offer a checkbox to specify
whether or not the billing and shipping are the same why would you copy the
values over if the checkbox is selected... just for aesthetics? Why not just
check the checkbox value in your action page?





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RE: Invalid precision value

2005-05-27 Thread Kevin Aebig
Its not CF thats choking, its the DB driver. Unless you can replace it with
something more stable, you might need to change your query to something else
that gets the job done. Also, why do you have 0=0 within your query? That
seems a little odd...

Kevin



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From: Mike Rogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 8:41 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Invalid precision value


I am receiving the following CF error:

Error Executing Database Query.
[Macromedia][SequeLink JDBC Driver][ODBC Socket][Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft
Access Driver]Invalid precision value

If I try to run the query directly from MS Access, using the same SQL, I
receive no error and the results are returned properly.

Any ideas on this one?

The SQL is:

SELECT * FROM foo
WHERE targetCoStage LIKE '%Start-up%'
AND targetCoStage LIKE '%Development%'
AND targetCoStage LIKE '%Early Stage%'
AND targetCoStage LIKE '%Late Stage%'
AND targetCoStage LIKE '%Middle Stage%'
AND UpdateStatus = 'Updated'
AND 0 = 0
ORDER BY ID ASC

The query above will run successfully in CF as long as I have no more than
four "AND" clauses.  Once I add a fifth, no matter what the clause is, CF
chokes, but Access is fine.

The "targetCoStage" column contains a comma delimited values, e.g.:

"Start-up,Growth,Development,Early Stage"

Thanks!
Mike



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RE: How to make my checkbox insert values

2005-05-27 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> In my cart app there's the billing/shipping info page. I'm 
> using cfform. 
> 
> Is there a way to make my "use billing info for ship to info" 
> checkbox automatically insert the values that were entered in 
> the billing part into the ship to cfinputs? 

Will,

This is one thing I never understood. If you offer a checkbox to specify
whether or not the billing and shipping are the same why would you copy the
values over if the checkbox is selected... just for aesthetics? Why not just
check the checkbox value in your action page?




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Re: How to make my checkbox insert values

2005-05-27 Thread Ken Ferguson
Will, are you using flash forms or just using cfform with standard html 
forms?


Will Tomlinson wrote:

>In my cart app there's the billing/shipping info page. I'm using cfform. 
>
>Is there a way to make my "use billing info for ship to info" checkbox 
>automatically insert the values that were entered in the billing part into the 
>ship to cfinputs? 
>
>Thanks,
>Will
>
>

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Invalid precision value

2005-05-27 Thread Mike Rogan
I am receiving the following CF error:

Error Executing Database Query.  
[Macromedia][SequeLink JDBC Driver][ODBC Socket][Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft 
Access Driver]Invalid precision value  

If I try to run the query directly from MS Access, using the same SQL, I 
receive no error and the results are returned properly.

Any ideas on this one?

The SQL is:

SELECT * FROM foo 
WHERE targetCoStage LIKE '%Start-up%' 
AND targetCoStage LIKE '%Development%' 
AND targetCoStage LIKE '%Early Stage%' 
AND targetCoStage LIKE '%Late Stage%' 
AND targetCoStage LIKE '%Middle Stage%'
AND UpdateStatus = 'Updated' 
AND 0 = 0 
ORDER BY ID ASC

The query above will run successfully in CF as long as I have no more than four 
"AND" clauses.  Once I add a fifth, no matter what the clause is, CF chokes, 
but Access is fine.

The "targetCoStage" column contains a comma delimited values, e.g.:

"Start-up,Growth,Development,Early Stage"

Thanks! 
Mike

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RE: OT: DB schema diagram, now what?

2005-05-27 Thread Damien McKenna
I was more thinking of extra fields and entities that could be added to
the diagram as we already have the database itself ;-)

-- 
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The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014
#include 
 

> -Original Message-
> From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 10:22 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: OT: DB schema diagram, now what?
> 
> If you have the enterprise version of visio, you can use it to create
> the database, although I would recommend against it as it creates old
> style 'trigger' relationships.  I've had much better results using
> Diagrams on Enterprise manager.


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RE: CF-Talk: Digest every 8 hours

2005-05-27 Thread Manuel Gomez
 


Manuel Gómez Barrera
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T 614.429.1253
www.interceramic.com
 

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Sent: Viernes, 27 de Mayo de 2005 07:01 a.m.
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF-Talk: Digest every 8 hours

CF-Talk  27-May-05 Issue:1753
In this issue:
 cfexecute and wget
 CFMX 7 and JRun updater 5
 CFMX7 and OSX 10.4 install issue
 CFMX7 and OSX 10.4 install issue
 CFMX7 and OSX 10.4 install issue
 CFMX7 and OSX 10.4 install issue
 CFMX7 and OSX 10.4 install issue
 CFX tags and JRE 1.4
 CFX tags and JRE 1.4
 How to deal with the african money scams
 How to deal with the african money scams
 How to deal with the african money scams
 How to deal with the african money scams
 How to deal with the african money scams
 How to make my checkbox insert values
 How to make my checkbox insert values
 How to make my checkbox insert values
 I'd Like To Know What My Customers Are Shopping For - In Real Time...
 Multiple table join statement question
 Multiple table join statement question
 OT Checking for video plugins
 OT:  using js to include files
 OT:  using js to include files
 OT:  using js to include files
 OT:  using js to include files
 OT:  using js to include files
 OT:  using js to include files
 OT:  using js to include files
 OT: traffic monitoring software
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Robot.txt question... security issue?

2005-05-27 Thread Che Vilnonis
A client of ours recently had a security audit on their web site. The audit
recommended that we remove all 'disallow: /xyz/' entries since a potential
hacker could read the robots.txt file and surmise which folders may be
sensitive.

Here's my question, if I remove all of the [disallow: /xyz/] lines from the
robots.txt file, how do I stop the search engines from indexing those
directories?

Thanks, Che


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Re: OT: DB schema diagram, now what?

2005-05-27 Thread Marlon Moyer
If you have the enterprise version of visio, you can use it to create
the database, although I would recommend against it as it creates old
style 'trigger' relationships.  I've had much better results using
Diagrams on Enterprise manager.


On 5/27/05, Damien McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In our efforts to rewrite our systems I've developed a diagram of one of
> our databases using Visio and added the key relationships.  Is there
> anything else I can do with Visio to further this, I'm kind-of a n00b at
> this?  Thanks.
> 
> --
> Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/
>   - 407-804-1014
> #include 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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