Re: AJAX Libraries

2007-06-11 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
JQuery is not unique in this regard.






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-Original Message-
From: Ariel Jakobovits
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Sun Jun 10 23:08:57 2007
Subject: Re: AJAX Libraries

Just like to throw in that unlike the other toolkits, jQuery is a unique and
expressive language to use for adding your own javascript functionality to
webpages with very little coding. It teaches you the DOM structure very well
and will hone your CSS/XPath skills. Discovering it was like writing my
first Lisp program, except that I ended up doing lots of things with my
javascript capabilities.

I think jQuery's strength lies in its ability to target and modify specific
DOM elements. Conversely, I think its weakness is that you give up on a lot
of its power when using other people's plugins. I believe there are lots of
plugins because it is easy for people to create their own functionality, not
so much because the community at large is asking for them. Dojo has
pre-built widgets you are encouraged to use, Ext even more, and a
developer's strength is based in his/her ability to use the existing
widgets. As a jQuery programmer, you want to be good at adding the
functionalities yourself on the fly as you decide to add them.

- Original Message 
From: Michael E. Carluen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 12:25:43 PM
Subject: RE: AJAX Libraries

Brook,

One thing that I like about jQuery is the growing number of community
developed plugins and extensions. It seems like one is added everyday.
http://docs.jquery.com/Plugins

Also it also good to know that the list of recognizable brands have deployed
sites on it.
http://docs.jquery.com/Sites_Using_jQuery

Finally, it is also good to find reputable CF gurus (or even novice to
intermediate to advance CFers) being quite visible in its already active
community. As in, don't hesitate to ask anything CF-related.
http://www.reybango.com/index.cfm/2007/2/2/Holy-Cow-Anothe-CF-BigWig-Using-t
he-jQuery-Ajax-Library

 
Hth you... and good luck on your search and on your decision.  Again it'll
all just boil down to your personal preference of features you are looking
for, as others have indicated.  The 3 points I stated above was personally
important to me at the time I was deciding.



 -Original Message-
 From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 5:57 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: AJAX Libraries
 
 I would look at such libraries as Yahoos, googles, spry, Dojo to name a
 few
 before cfajax and mxAjax.
 
 Even jQuery would be on my list to look at.
 
 Anyway, its up to you what your looking for. CF8 has intergration into
 Yahoo's ajax library yui.
 
 For one of the best resources for Ajax, visit www.ajaxian.com
 
 
 
 
 On 6/10/07, Brook Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
 
 
  Does anyone have suggestions on an ajax library? I read that CF8 has an
  integrated AJAX 'gateway',  but is that really worth waiting for? There
  most
  be some good AJAX libraries out there. Has anyone had success with
 cfajax
  or
  mxAjax?
 
 
 
  Brook
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 





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Re: Flash forms errors

2007-06-11 Thread AJ Mercer
Doh!
but correct James :-)


On 6/11/07, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wrong thread? :-)

 On 6/11/07, AJ Mercer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  it is dated 11 June
  http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flex/
 
  maybe those that are going to do the flex study course should hold off
  installing this until we start - that is if it as a 30 day trial thing
 
 
  Does any one know how to go about reinstalling the Flex 2 builder if it
 has
  expired?

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Re: Simultaneous Requests/CF vs ASP.NET for Flash Remoting

2007-06-11 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
He could port to BD with little or no changes to code.



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-Original Message-
From: Andrew Scott
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Mon Jun 11 06:09:25 2007
Subject: Re: Simultaneous Requests/CF vs ASP.NET for Flash Remoting

Yes but his consideration of going BD is that he already has written CFML
code and that he has been told .Net is better in under Loads.

Please try to keep up with conversation.



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 Well you have a point, but given that he's considering going BD as well,
 this at least gives him some breathing room and a pretty decent example
 albeit back in the day...

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RE: Finding current queries

2007-06-11 Thread Brad Wood
What scope are the query object(s) in?

Do you mean on error just doing something like

cfoutput
cfloop collection=#variables# item=i
cfif isquery(variables[i])
#i#: #variables[i].recordcount# recordsbr
/cfif
/cfloop
/cfoutput


That code would assume the queries existed in the variables scope and
had been run on that page.  You obviously have access to any query
objects in the application scope in the same manner.  If you have
queries persisted in session, then the question becomes the active
user's session or ALL sessions on the server.  The sessiontracker method
in the service factory will give you everyone's sessions, but I don't
know that the performance of recursing that struct would be advisable.
If you want to see all the query objects in the variables scope for ALL
users at that instant I think you are out of luck.  The contents of the
variables scope is destroyed at the end of the page load anyway so it's
not like you could get a list of recent queries anyway.  It would have
to be recent queries whose request are still running.

~Brad

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From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 3:09 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Finding current queries

 Ok, I'm still a little confused.  If the query is still active then
the
result set wouldn't be defined yet. 

Brad, I'm talking of CF queries objects, not SQL queries in the database

engine itself.
The SQL query may be not active, but there is still a query object 
defined in the CF application.
I just want to know their names and how many records they got.

Just like in a template invoked by CFERROR, I can get le list of fields 
in the FORM scope
and dump their values.


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RE: SLQ Injection on CF7 Site

2007-06-11 Thread Brad Wood
Also look for dynamic SQL in stored procs which concatenate a SQL string and 
then execute it.  

-Original Message-
From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 9:20 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SLQ Injection on CF7 Site

Just use cfqueryparam everywhere and your queries are safe.

On 6/11/07, Michael Grove [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What does this do and how do I stop it?

 and 1=convert(int,system_user)--sp_password

 I recently received an email from some one showing me my ID and Password of a 
 site I work. They also stated that they could get our customer information.

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http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/



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Re: Finding current queries

2007-06-11 Thread Andrew Scott
I think the best way for such an answer would be to look at a server
monitor, CF8 has this ability and so does Fusion Reactor
which is also great for threads an other things as well. Which is the best
form of debugging you can buy, from a seerver point of view.

But unless the queries are stored in a peristant scope then you will not get
them.


On 6/8/07, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 Beside declaring them in the session scope, is there any mean to find
 all currently active queries in an application?
 Both in CFMX and CF 5 ?


 

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Re: Finding current queries

2007-06-11 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
As does SeeFusion.




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-Original Message-
From: Andrew Scott
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Mon Jun 11 08:03:41 2007
Subject: Re: Finding current queries

I think the best way for such an answer would be to look at a server
monitor, CF8 has this ability and so does Fusion Reactor
which is also great for threads an other things as well. Which is the best
form of debugging you can buy, from a seerver point of view.

But unless the queries are stored in a peristant scope then you will not get
them.


On 6/8/07, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 Beside declaring them in the session scope, is there any mean to find
 all currently active queries in an application?
 Both in CFMX and CF 5 ?


 



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Re: A Date Problem that's got me tearing out my hair!

2007-06-11 Thread Ariel Jakobovits
did you get an answer to this?

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Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 7:43:28 PM
Subject: Re: A Date Problem that's got me tearing out my hair!

I have worked with this all weekend, and can find no rhyme or reason at 
all for what's happening here.

I enter into my forms:
start date: 6/1/2007
end date: 6/10/2007

and what gets returned is:
start date: 5/31/2007
end date: 6/09/2007

I'm completely stumped!

What in the hell could be causing this?

Just to recap - the website with form located in Guernsey.
The forms calls a webservice that uses a CFC located on a HostMySite 
server here in the US and writes to a database here in the US.

Are the HostMysite servers located in Deleware?
There's a 5 hour difference between the server time in Guernsey and 
Deleware. It doesn't seem to matter what time of day I enter information 
into a form, the problem still occurs, so I'm not sure that's got 
anything to do with it.

Anybody got any further ideas?



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Re: A Date Problem that's got me tearing out my hair!

2007-06-11 Thread Dinner
Post the dates a day in advance.

Problem solved!  ;]

Sorry, I know, I know... had to do it...

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Re: A Date Problem that's got me tearing out my hair!

2007-06-11 Thread Paul Hastings
Les Mizzell wrote:
 What in the hell could be causing this?

hard to diagnose w/out knowing what you're doing to the datetime objects but it 
appears to be a simple tz issue. what tz is the Guernsey actually in? is the 
Guernsey server a cf one? if so, are you manipulating the datetime on that 
server? on the HMS server?

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Re: Set server var at startup?

2007-06-11 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 08 Jun 2007, Phill B wrote:
 Well I guess there isn't a way to hack CF to always load a variable
 during the start process. Suck. 

I outlined one way of doing exactly that.
Just add a call to wget (or curl, nc or whatever you prefer) to the install 
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Re: A Date Problem that's got me tearing out my hair!

2007-06-11 Thread Ariel Jakobovits
Sounds like the data incoming has UTC data that is being taken into 
consideration before it gets to your printf statement. would something in http 
headers affect deserialization of values from the FORM scope before they are 
printable?

- Original Message 
From: Ariel Jakobovits [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 9:39:03 PM
Subject: Re: A Date Problem that's got me tearing out my hair!

did you get an answer to this?

- Original Message 
From: Les Mizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 7:43:28 PM
Subject: Re: A Date Problem that's got me tearing out my hair!

I have worked with this all weekend, and can find no rhyme or reason at 
all for what's happening here.

I enter into my forms:
start date: 6/1/2007
end date: 6/10/2007

and what gets returned is:
start date: 5/31/2007
end date: 6/09/2007

I'm completely stumped!

What in the hell could be causing this?

Just to recap - the website with form located in Guernsey.
The forms calls a webservice that uses a CFC located on a HostMySite 
server here in the US and writes to a database here in the US.

Are the HostMysite servers located in Deleware?
There's a 5 hour difference between the server time in Guernsey and 
Deleware. It doesn't seem to matter what time of day I enter information 
into a form, the problem still occurs, so I'm not sure that's got 
anything to do with it.

Anybody got any further ideas?





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Re: AJAX Libraries

2007-06-11 Thread Ariel Jakobovits
YUI also has a good Custom Event framework and one very important parameter 
built into all of their event handling functions that you will discover is 
essential.

But just to add, I thought their widgets were poor. Ext has the nicest ones but 
hardest to work with. Dojo's API looks sloppy. MooTools has beautiful examples 
and simple code. And I don't know much about Prototype except that I didn't 
choose it.

This is what I was doing before I decided to move to Flex.

-Ariel

- Original Message 
From: blists [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 9:34:37 PM
Subject: RE: AJAX Libraries

Thanks everyone for the great suggestions, I will start to check them out.
Is the yahoo stuff what yahoo used to make yahoo mail, because I have found
the new yahoo mail to be very solid and a very cool RIA app. So if it uses
the same lib, then that might be interesting to me. 

I'm gonna check them all out :)

Brook


-Original Message-
From: Ariel Jakobovits [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: June 10, 2007 3:09 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: AJAX Libraries

Just like to throw in that unlike the other toolkits, jQuery is a unique and
expressive language to use for adding your own javascript functionality to
webpages with very little coding. It teaches you the DOM structure very well
and will hone your CSS/XPath skills. Discovering it was like writing my
first Lisp program, except that I ended up doing lots of things with my
javascript capabilities.

I think jQuery's strength lies in its ability to target and modify specific
DOM elements. Conversely, I think its weakness is that you give up on a lot
of its power when using other people's plugins. I believe there are lots of
plugins because it is easy for people to create their own functionality, not
so much because the community at large is asking for them. Dojo has
pre-built widgets you are encouraged to use, Ext even more, and a
developer's strength is based in his/her ability to use the existing
widgets. As a jQuery programmer, you want to be good at adding the
functionalities yourself on the fly as you decide to add them.

- Original Message 
From: Michael E. Carluen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 12:25:43 PM
Subject: RE: AJAX Libraries

Brook,

One thing that I like about jQuery is the growing number of community
developed plugins and extensions. It seems like one is added everyday.
http://docs.jquery.com/Plugins

Also it also good to know that the list of recognizable brands have deployed
sites on it.
http://docs.jquery.com/Sites_Using_jQuery

Finally, it is also good to find reputable CF gurus (or even novice to
intermediate to advance CFers) being quite visible in its already active
community. As in, don't hesitate to ask anything CF-related.
http://www.reybango.com/index.cfm/2007/2/2/Holy-Cow-Anothe-CF-BigWig-Using-t
he-jQuery-Ajax-Library

 
Hth you... and good luck on your search and on your decision.  Again it'll
all just boil down to your personal preference of features you are looking
for, as others have indicated.  The 3 points I stated above was personally
important to me at the time I was deciding.



 -Original Message-
 From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 5:57 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: AJAX Libraries
 
 I would look at such libraries as Yahoos, googles, spry, Dojo to name a
 few
 before cfajax and mxAjax.
 
 Even jQuery would be on my list to look at.
 
 Anyway, its up to you what your looking for. CF8 has intergration into
 Yahoo's ajax library yui.
 
 For one of the best resources for Ajax, visit www.ajaxian.com
 
 
 
 
 On 6/10/07, Brook Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
 
 
  Does anyone have suggestions on an ajax library? I read that CF8 has an
  integrated AJAX 'gateway',  but is that really worth waiting for? There
  most
  be some good AJAX libraries out there. Has anyone had success with
 cfajax
  or
  mxAjax?
 
 
 
  Brook
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 







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Re: Finding current queries

2007-06-11 Thread Andrew Scott
Thanks Neil, couldn't recall that one. When I tested them both, I found
seeFusion hard to get going on first install on one server and that turned
me away. But I can say that it is better in some areas than Fusion Reactor
though.



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 As does SeeFusion.




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 -Original Message-
 From: Andrew Scott
 To: CF-Talk
 Sent: Mon Jun 11 08:03:41 2007
 Subject: Re: Finding current queries

 I think the best way for such an answer would be to look at a server
 monitor, CF8 has this ability and so does Fusion Reactor
 which is also great for threads an other things as well. Which is the best
 form of debugging you can buy, from a seerver point of view.

 But unless the queries are stored in a peristant scope then you will not
 get
 them.


 On 6/8/07, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  Beside declaring them in the session scope, is there any mean to find
  all currently active queries in an application?
  Both in CFMX and CF 5 ?
 
 
 



 

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RE: Simultaneous Requests/CF vs ASP.NET for Flash Remoting

2007-06-11 Thread Eric Roberts
I have worked for several large high traffic companies(American Medical 
Association, Smith Bucklin and Associates, Shedd Aquarium, ATT, etc..) that 
use CF for their sites and haven't seen a problem.  Even back in the 3.4.5 
days, the company I worked for got millions of hits a day (American Medical 
Association).  This was on a NT4 server (don’t remember how much memory).

Eric

-Original Message-
From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 11:55 PM
To: CF-Talk
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Well originally they ran CF5.  Truthfully though, I wonder how well CF is
suited for high traffic sites until it's supported on 64-bit JDK.  2gigs of
RAM is not much these days, especially if you're replicating sessions over a
lot of cluster members. 

Russ

 -Original Message-
 From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:40 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Simultaneous Requests/CF vs ASP.NET for Flash Remoting
 
 Actually that runs on .NET via BD, so it's not the best example in
 this argument...
 
 On 6/11/07, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   ... a bunch of crap. There are plenty of high-volume sites using CF.
 
  No doubt. Two words as one... MySpace. If that isn't the most defining
  example of a high load application, I don't know what is.
 
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RE: A Date Problem that's got me tearing out my hair!

2007-06-11 Thread Dan G. Switzer, II
Les,

It sounds like maybe it's attempting to convert the time you entered to a local 
time to the server. 

Is the web service doing anything with dateConvert()? 

Are you sure you're not supposed to be entering the date/times in GMT format?

-Dan

-Original Message-
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Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 10:43 PM
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Subject: Re: A Date Problem that's got me tearing out my hair!

I have worked with this all weekend, and can find no rhyme or reason at
all for what's happening here.

I enter into my forms:
start date: 6/1/2007
end date: 6/10/2007

and what gets returned is:
start date: 5/31/2007
end date: 6/09/2007

I'm completely stumped!

What in the hell could be causing this?

Just to recap - the website with form located in Guernsey.
The forms calls a webservice that uses a CFC located on a HostMySite
server here in the US and writes to a database here in the US.

Are the HostMysite servers located in Deleware?
There's a 5 hour difference between the server time in Guernsey and
Deleware. It doesn't seem to matter what time of day I enter information
into a form, the problem still occurs, so I'm not sure that's got
anything to do with it.

Anybody got any further ideas?



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RE: Simultaneous Requests/CF vs ASP.NET for Flash Remoting

2007-06-11 Thread Eric Roberts
I think the only places where you have probs in switching to BD is anything
that uses flash as that is not supported in BD servers.  Otherwise, the tags
work the same.

Eric

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He could port to BD with little or no changes to code.



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Yes but his consideration of going BD is that he already has written CFML
code and that he has been told .Net is better in under Loads.

Please try to keep up with conversation.



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Re: A Date Problem that's got me tearing out my hair!

2007-06-11 Thread Les Mizzell
 It sounds like maybe it's attempting to convert the time you entered to a 
 local time to the server. 

That was my first thought. BUT - right now (8:40 AM) it's 6/11/2007 both 
here and there. I've run test all hours and it happens regardless. 
Still, this *has* to have something to do with it, I just can't figure 
out WHY. I've tested with dates in the past as well. Something on the 
Guernsey server seems to be the cause, but jezz - what?

 Is the web service doing anything with dateConvert()? 

Nothing at all.

On the Guernsey side (simplified...):
cfinvoke webservice=#request.cfcLOCATION#..
WSdepDATE=#form.depDATE# ... 

On the US side it's a simple insert statement with the date handled thusly:
cfqueryparam cfsqltype=CF_SQL_DATE value=#WSdepDATE# /

That's it.

Now, on the US side - it's also creating/recording the date the record 
is inserted using now(), and *THAT* date is correct. Go figure...

 Are you sure you're not supposed to be entering the date/times in GMT format?

I'm doing a calculation between two dates on the form, and the 
calculation is coming out correct - the date just end up one day off.

The only solution I can actually come up with was an earlier 
tongue-and-cheeck just post the dates a day in advance.

Still, I'd like to know *why* it's happening exactly. I've never seen 
anything like this before.

Coffee - must have more coffee input.

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Anyone using the SmarterMail web services on CrystalTech?

2007-06-11 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus
I'm trying to use the SmarterMail 4.1 web services on CrystalTech to create
new email accounts for an app that I am building.  I tried Joe Danziger's
SmarterMail REST Wrapper (http://smartermail.riaforge.org/) but I am getting
nothing but connection timeout failures.  Has anyone here used the
SmarterMail REST wrapper, or direct SOAP invocation, to access CrystalTech's
smartermail web services?

Thanks

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Re: Simultaneous Requests/CF vs ASP.NET for Flash Remoting

2007-06-11 Thread Vince Bonfanti
 1/ Will CF8 have equal or better integration with .NET compared to 
 Bluedragon.Net?

No. CF8 is still written in Java, and its .NET integration is done using a 
Java-to-.NET bridge licensed from a third party. BlueDragon.NET on the other 
hand is a 100% pure .NET implementation. Compared to BD.NET, the CF8 
Java-to-.NET bridge will not perform as well, will have some limitations on the 
types of .NET objects you can create, and does not integrate with ASP.NET.

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pink folders

2007-06-11 Thread coldfusion . developer
I know this is mostly cf, but does anyone know why folders turn pink in 
Dreamweaver
on dev side? Using latest CS3, it's my dev files are stored on a mapped drive 
on our
network.

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RE: AJAX Libraries

2007-06-11 Thread Andy Matthews
Quite a few of the people on this list use jQuery.

Several people use Dojo, or Scriptaculous, or Prototype. There's also
moo.fx, Dom-ext, Ext-js and more.

I'd use jQuery though.

:)

-Original Message-
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Subject: AJAX Libraries

Hello,

 

Does anyone have suggestions on an ajax library? I read that CF8 has an
integrated AJAX 'gateway',  but is that really worth waiting for? There most
be some good AJAX libraries out there. Has anyone had success with cfajax or
mxAjax?  

 

Brook






 






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Appscan for ColdFusion

2007-06-11 Thread Matthew Williams
Anyone using a vulnerability scanning tool before deploying their code?  I've 
been asked to look into automated tools to replace our manual process.  Anyone 
have any experience with this in regards to testing CF?


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RE: AJAX Libraries

2007-06-11 Thread Andy Matthews
I'm shocked that list doesn't contain jQuery. 

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Andrew,

Check this out: http://bluedragon.blog-city.com/ajaxlibraries.htm

Ravi.

Andrew Scott wrote:
   
 Hello,



 Does anyone have suggestions on an ajax library? I read that CF8 has 
 an integrated AJAX 'gateway',  but is that really worth waiting for? 
 There most be some good AJAX libraries out there. Has anyone had 
 success with cfajax or mxAjax?



 Brook












 

 



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Re: pink folders

2007-06-11 Thread Jerry Johnson
Because you code like a girl, and even Dreamweaver knows it?

Are these folders on your testing server?

Try to check your IIS settings, and make sure the profile you are
running as has permissions, or at least correct anonymous permissions
in IIS.

On 6/11/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I know this is mostly cf, but does anyone know why folders turn pink in 
 Dreamweaver
 on dev side? Using latest CS3, it's my dev files are stored on a mapped drive 
 on our
 network.


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How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???

2007-06-11 Thread coldfusion . developer
I was just curious ... about how many live corporate Web sites does the average
CF developer manage?  I'm not talking side jobs, or pet projects.  I'm talking 
you
work for XYZ company with more than 100 employyes and manage x number of 
Web sites all by yourself.  The reason why I ask is I'm managing 6 and 
throughout
most of my career I've only had to manage 1.

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RE: AJAX Libraries

2007-06-11 Thread Andy Matthews
FYI, while jQuery doesn't do this out of the box, there is a plugin to manage 
the back button. 

-Original Message-
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Dojo kicks freaking arse.  It roxerz on so many levels, I can't contemplate any 
other library.

If you really want to do some heavy AJAX, I'd go Dojo.

If you're looking for a bit of flash, heck, they're all good.  'prolly use what 
James sugged, since it ties with CF.

I wonder tho... have any libraries 'sides dojo tackled the back button, and 
normal pages that just get AJAXed, like Dojo does?

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RE: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???

2007-06-11 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
We manage over 350+ but that is probably not the norm!







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Subject: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???

I was just curious ... about how many live corporate Web sites does the
average
CF developer manage?  I'm not talking side jobs, or pet projects.  I'm
talking you
work for XYZ company with more than 100 employyes and manage x number of 
Web sites all by yourself.  The reason why I ask is I'm managing 6 and
throughout
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Re: SLQ Injection on CF7 Site

2007-06-11 Thread JJ Cool
 What does this do and how do I stop it?
 
 and 1=convert(int,system_user)--sp_password 
 
 I recently received an email from some one showing me my ID and 
 Password of a site I work. They also stated that they could get our 
 customer information.
 

This is a SQL injection technique used to glean information from your server by 
getting it to throw back errors by trying to convert MS SQL server variables to 
integers. In the instance you posted you are seeing them gleaning your system 
user name by trying to convert it to an integer during the comparison to 1. 
Obviously a character string can't be converted to one, so it throws back an 
error that 'yoursystemusername' can't be converted to an integer. Now the 
hacker knows your system username. They can also figure out several other 
things using this method, such as server name (convert(int, @@servername)), 
version (convert(int, @@version)), database name (convert(int, db_name())), 
etc. Further, it might be possible to execute commands depending on the 
privileges of the user setup for the database connection from ColdFusion.

You must not trust any input coming from the client side. Make sure to check 
all inputs, whether from forms or the url, for datatype. In addition, escape 
any quotes to prevent sql injection from string fields.

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RE: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???

2007-06-11 Thread Huff, Jerome P.
I'm doing 6, with two more in development. 

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I was just curious ... about how many live corporate Web sites does the
average CF developer manage?  I'm not talking side jobs, or pet
projects.  I'm talking you work for XYZ company with more than 100
employyes and manage x number of Web sites all by yourself.  The reason
why I ask is I'm managing 6 and throughout most of my career I've only
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Re: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???

2007-06-11 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Monday 11 Jun 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 average CF developer manage?

Define 'manage'. 
Does that mean 'have needed development work in the last 12 months' or 'are 
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Re: Finding current queries

2007-06-11 Thread Claude Schneegans
 cfoutput

cfloop collection=#variables# item=i
cfif isquery(variables[i])
#i#: #variables[i].recordcount# recordsbr
/cfif
/cfloop
/cfoutput

 That code would assume the queries existed in the variables scope and
had been run on that page.

Exact, but even so, it appears that the variable scope itself is not 
available from the error template,
though the form scope is.
By the way, may be the request scope is, so putting all queries in the 
request scope could be a solution.
Having all queries in the session scope is definitely too costly 
performance wise, and using the Application
scope would made the application a one user only application.

 The sessiontracker method
in the service factory will give you everyone's sessions, but I don't
know that the performance of recursing that struct would be advisable.

If the queries were defined in the session, I wouldn't have to parse 
everyone's session, only the session
that caused the error, but I don't think putting all queries in session 
variables wouls be wise.

 The contents of the
variables scope is destroyed at the end of the page load anyway

Right, but by definition, errors occur before the end of the page load, 
so there is no reason the variable
scope would not be available from the error template defined in CFERROR, 
just like the form scope,
which is also destroyed after page load.

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RE: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???

2007-06-11 Thread Robert Harrrison
It really depends on the sites. I've managed as many as 50 CF sites and also
do new development at the same time. Some of them are stable and hardly ever
get touched. Others are constantly changing and require a lot of work. It's
not really the number of sites that's the issue, it's the total number hours
all site together require. If you have three hundred sites that work with
little problem and are stable, possibly get one update per year, then you
might be able to manage all 300. If you have one site where the client add
new procedures each week, then that site alone may be a full time job. 


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average CF developer manage?  I'm not talking side jobs, or pet projects.
I'm talking you work for XYZ company with more than 100 employyes and manage
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6 and throughout most of my career I've only had to manage 1.



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Re: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???

2007-06-11 Thread Jim Wright
On 6/11/07, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Monday 11 Jun 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  average CF developer manage?

 Define 'manage'.
 Does that mean 'have needed development work in the last 12 months' or 'are
 running on the live server' ?


Also define site...are you talking about separate CF installs?
Different apps under the same URL?  Different URL's on the same web
server?  Does manage mean development or administration or both?  I
think you'll find that for a group of developers who all manage n
sites, n != n != n...

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AJAX/Fusebox Question

2007-06-11 Thread Phillip M. Vector
Since there is some discussion about AJAX on the list, I thought I would 
repost this issue and see if anyone has any ideas as to why it isn't 
working.

form
Message: input type=text id=Message onkeyup=showmessages()
onenter=entermessage() size=40
input type=Hidden id=Room value=1
/form

function entermessage()
{
xmlHttp=GetXmlHttpObject()
var url=#self#Chat.EnterMessage;
url=url+room=+document.getElementById(Room).value;
url=url+message=+document.getElementById(Message).value;
xmlHttp.onreadystatechange=stateChanged;
xmlHttp.open(GET,url,true);
xmlHttp.send(null);
}

cfquery datasource=#datasource#
Insert into Chat_Messages
(Message, Room)
VALUES
('#url.Message#', #url.Room#)
/cfquery


Anyone know why this wouldn't work? It keeps not being able to go to the
proper fusebox circuit.


#self# is defined as index.cfm?fuseaction=

But it's getting sent to index.cfm?

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embedded cfml in system messaging...

2007-06-11 Thread D F
Hmmm so I'm thinking that it would be nice to store all generated email content 
in the DB so that the admins could update it. 

However, what of messages that could contain embedded CFM? ( I suppose I could 
filter out all CFM constructs so that it would be hidden from the admins, but 
this seems like it could be problematic.

Any anyone have any general ideas on how this kind of system could be set up 
while being able to preserve the CFM content of the messages?

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Re: SLQ Injection on CF7 Site

2007-06-11 Thread JJ Cool
I guess I should also add that if hackers are seeing useful errors reported 
back to them you have a couple more problems besides sql injection showing 
unintended data in your normal query output.

1. Your queries are not wrapped with cftry - cfcatch.
2. Your queries are not cfqueryparam'd.
3. Your website is not showing a custom error template with a cleaned up user 
friendly hacker safe message.
4. Client supplied data is not scrubbed for safeness and problems reported in a 
user friendly way.

Others suggested cfqueryparam'ing your queries, but while this will prevent sql 
injection, you still have ugly errors with possibly useful information 
presented to the hacker. Fixing the above 3 problems will get you a safer 
website and the 4th a nice user experience should a normal user make a mistake.

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Instant Credit Check

2007-06-11 Thread Robert Harrrison
Does anyone know of a plug-in I can use (in a secure setting) that would
return an applicants credit score so I could process a credit application
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Looking for a sample

2007-06-11 Thread Pete
Hi there

 

I'm trying to get an idea of where I can find some javascript.

 

Basically I want to be able to create vertical menu - which has both images
and words displayed on it.

 

Basically the menu will have a number of Main Sections such as Pages, Admin,
Templates.

 

Each section will probably closed when a person first accesses the site.
When they click on a section it will open up to display items underneath
these.

 

This information will come from the database.

 

i.e. Page names, template details etc.

 

Hope this makes sense.

 

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RE: Looking for a sample

2007-06-11 Thread Pete
I guess I should be a little more specific - a menu structure where I have
the main parts of the menu and then the sub items are generated from entries
in the data base.  So for the pages section, there might be initially About
Us, Products, Contact Us etc.

So menu should look a bit like this

Pages
-   About Us
-   products
-   Contact Us

Admin   
-   Users

Templates
-   Main
-   2-column
-   3 column

Etc

Thanks in advance



-Original Message-
From: Pete [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 12 June 2007 1:05 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Looking for a sample

Hi there

 

I'm trying to get an idea of where I can find some javascript.

 

Basically I want to be able to create vertical menu - which has both images
and words displayed on it.

 

Basically the menu will have a number of Main Sections such as Pages, Admin,
Templates.

 

Each section will probably closed when a person first accesses the site.
When they click on a section it will open up to display items underneath
these.

 

This information will come from the database.

 

i.e. Page names, template details etc.

 

Hope this makes sense.

 

P






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Frames in Fusebox

2007-06-11 Thread Phillip M. Vector
I seem to have allot of questions today. :)

frameset cols=215,0,* frameborder=no border=0 framespacing=0
frame name=Navigation src=index.cfm?fuseaction=Main.Menu 
scrolling=Auto noresize
frame name=Music src=index.cfm?fuseaction=Main.Music 
scrolling=No noresize
frame name=Main Window src=index.cfm?fuseaction=Main.Welcome 
noresize
/frameset

The fuseactions are defined like this..

fuseaction name=default
include template=dsp_ShowFramesTest.cfm/
/fuseaction

fuseaction name=Music
include template=qry_GetPlayer.cfm/
include template=dsp_music.cfm/
/fuseaction

When I go to that fuseaction of main.default, it doesn't display any 
frames. It just goes to a blank screen.

What am I doing wrong?

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Re: Looking for a sample

2007-06-11 Thread Phillip M. Vector
I personally use dtree. It's easy to set up and with a minor 
modification, works in Firefox.

Pete wrote:
 I guess I should be a little more specific - a menu structure where I have
 the main parts of the menu and then the sub items are generated from entries
 in the data base.  So for the pages section, there might be initially About
 Us, Products, Contact Us etc.
 
 So menu should look a bit like this
 
 Pages
   -   About Us
   -   products
   -   Contact Us
 
 Admin 
   -   Users
   
 Templates
   -   Main
   -   2-column
   -   3 column
 
 Etc
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pete [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, 12 June 2007 1:05 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Looking for a sample
 
 Hi there
 
  
 
 I'm trying to get an idea of where I can find some javascript.
 
  
 
 Basically I want to be able to create vertical menu - which has both images
 and words displayed on it.
 
  
 
 Basically the menu will have a number of Main Sections such as Pages, Admin,
 Templates.
 
  
 
 Each section will probably closed when a person first accesses the site.
 When they click on a section it will open up to display items underneath
 these.
 
  
 
 This information will come from the database.
 
  
 
 i.e. Page names, template details etc.
 
  
 
 Hope this makes sense.
 
  
 
 P
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: embedded cfml in system messaging...

2007-06-11 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Monday 11 Jun 2007, D F wrote:
 However, what of messages that could contain embedded CFM? ( I suppose I
 could filter out all CFM constructs so that it would be hidden from the
 admins, but this seems like it could be problematic.

You'll probably need to invent some sort of token subsituation based language 
(i.e. Dear %userFriendlyName% have you seen our new range 
of %mailingProductType%), and translate that into real CFM/HTML when 
needed...

 Any anyone have any general ideas on how this kind of system could be set
 up while being able to preserve the CFM content of the messages?

...though have you seen CF Template on RIAForge ?

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RE: SLQ Injection on CF7 Site

2007-06-11 Thread Dave Watts
 I guess I should also add that if hackers are seeing useful 
 errors reported back to them you have a couple more problems 
 besides sql injection showing unintended data in your normal 
 query output.
 
 1. Your queries are not wrapped with cftry - cfcatch.
 2. Your queries are not cfqueryparam'd.
 3. Your website is not showing a custom error template with a 
 cleaned up user friendly hacker safe message.
 4. Client supplied data is not scrubbed for safeness and 
 problems reported in a user friendly way.
 
 Others suggested cfqueryparam'ing your queries, but while 
 this will prevent sql injection, you still have ugly errors 
 with possibly useful information presented to the hacker. 
 Fixing the above 3 problems will get you a safer website and 
 the 4th a nice user experience should a normal user make a mistake.

You don't need to wrap every query with CFTRY/CFCATCH; you're better off
reserving that for specific exceptions where you can present a specific
solution. If you just use CFERROR/onError to capture runtime exceptions, you
can get the same results in a more structured way.

While I'm not sure I fully agree with this, there is a cogent argument to be
made in favor of not scrubbing client data:
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Wrong.html

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Re: AJAX/Fusebox Question

2007-06-11 Thread Charlie Griefer
are you sure #self# is defined as index.cfm?fuseaction=?

generally i've seen #self# referenced as index.cfm and #myself#
referenced as index.cfm?fuseaction=

On 6/11/07, Phillip M. Vector [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Since there is some discussion about AJAX on the list, I thought I would
 repost this issue and see if anyone has any ideas as to why it isn't
 working.

 form
 Message: input type=text id=Message onkeyup=showmessages()
 onenter=entermessage() size=40
 input type=Hidden id=Room value=1
 /form

 function entermessage()
 {
 xmlHttp=GetXmlHttpObject()
 var url=#self#Chat.EnterMessage;
 url=url+room=+document.getElementById(Room).value;
 url=url+message=+document.getElementById(Message).value;
 xmlHttp.onreadystatechange=stateChanged;
 xmlHttp.open(GET,url,true);
 xmlHttp.send(null);
 }

 cfquery datasource=#datasource#
 Insert into Chat_Messages
 (Message, Room)
 VALUES
 ('#url.Message#', #url.Room#)
 /cfquery


 Anyone know why this wouldn't work? It keeps not being able to go to the
 proper fusebox circuit.


 #self# is defined as index.cfm?fuseaction=

 But it's getting sent to index.cfm?

 *scratches his head*

 

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Re: AJAX/Fusebox Question

2007-06-11 Thread Phillip M. Vector
cfset defaultindex = index.cfm
cfset self = #defaultindex#?#application.fusebox.fuseactionVariable#=

Yeah. I made #self# to include the fuseaction as well.

Charlie Griefer wrote:
 are you sure #self# is defined as index.cfm?fuseaction=?
 
 generally i've seen #self# referenced as index.cfm and #myself#
 referenced as index.cfm?fuseaction=
 
 On 6/11/07, Phillip M. Vector [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Since there is some discussion about AJAX on the list, I thought I would
 repost this issue and see if anyone has any ideas as to why it isn't
 working.

 form
 Message: input type=text id=Message onkeyup=showmessages()
 onenter=entermessage() size=40
 input type=Hidden id=Room value=1
 /form

 function entermessage()
 {
 xmlHttp=GetXmlHttpObject()
 var url=#self#Chat.EnterMessage;
 url=url+room=+document.getElementById(Room).value;
 url=url+message=+document.getElementById(Message).value;
 xmlHttp.onreadystatechange=stateChanged;
 xmlHttp.open(GET,url,true);
 xmlHttp.send(null);
 }

 cfquery datasource=#datasource#
 Insert into Chat_Messages
 (Message, Room)
 VALUES
 ('#url.Message#', #url.Room#)
 /cfquery


 Anyone know why this wouldn't work? It keeps not being able to go to the
 proper fusebox circuit.


 #self# is defined as index.cfm?fuseaction=

 But it's getting sent to index.cfm?

 *scratches his head*


 
 

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Re: AJAX Libraries

2007-06-11 Thread Christopher Jordan
My suggestion for you would be jQuery. Its community is very friendly, 
excited to welcome new comers, and growing all the time.

Also, since what you asked for was an 'Ajax library', I would suggest 
Rob Gonda's AjaxCFC. It can be used alone (he incorporates a javascript 
library called DWR), or you can use the new jQuery branch that Rob has 
created.

With the addition of AjaxCFC to jQuery you have the option of using 
jQuery's in-built ajax calls or Rob's AjaxCFC which can make 
asynchronous calls directly to a CFC (something that jQuery's in-built 
ajax doesn't do well).

I'd also like to add that jQuery partnered with Jack Slocum's Ext project.

You can read details on that here 
http://jquery.com/blog/2007/02/19/jquery-and-jack-slocums-ext.

Cheers!
Chris

Andy Matthews wrote:
 Quite a few of the people on this list use jQuery.

 Several people use Dojo, or Scriptaculous, or Prototype. There's also
 moo.fx, Dom-ext, Ext-js and more.

 I'd use jQuery though.

 :)

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 6:54 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: AJAX Libraries

 Hello,

  

 Does anyone have suggestions on an ajax library? I read that CF8 has an
 integrated AJAX 'gateway',  but is that really worth waiting for? There most
 be some good AJAX libraries out there. Has anyone had success with cfajax or
 mxAjax?  

  

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Re: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???

2007-06-11 Thread coldfusion . developer
By manage sites I mean, manage all cf code on both developement and production 
servers.  Manage all aspects of expansion/creation of existing and new CF 
applications. Manage all aspects of database. Creation of Flash movies, which
include Actionscript and video editing using Premiere Pro. Working with product
managers, and manage a part-time Jr. developer. 

I love what I do, I was just curious what everyone else was doing.

We manage over 350+ but that is probably not the norm!







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Subject: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???

I was just curious ... about how many live corporate Web sites does the
average
CF developer manage?  I'm not talking side jobs, or pet projects.  I'm
talking you
work for XYZ company with more than 100 employyes and manage x number of 
Web sites all by yourself.  The reason why I ask is I'm managing 6 and
throughout
most of my career I've only had to manage 1.

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Re: Frames in Fusebox

2007-06-11 Thread Phillip M. Vector
If it's any help, I'm using a headed (which just puts up the stuff up to 
and including body) and footer (which closes body and html tags). When I 
look at the source, the frameset commands aren't there.

Phillip M. Vector wrote:
 I seem to have allot of questions today. :)
 
 frameset cols=215,0,* frameborder=no border=0 framespacing=0
   frame name=Navigation src=index.cfm?fuseaction=Main.Menu 
 scrolling=Auto noresize
   frame name=Music src=index.cfm?fuseaction=Main.Music 
 scrolling=No noresize
   frame name=Main Window src=index.cfm?fuseaction=Main.Welcome 
 noresize
 /frameset
 
 The fuseactions are defined like this..
 
   fuseaction name=default
   include template=dsp_ShowFramesTest.cfm/
   /fuseaction
 
   fuseaction name=Music
   include template=qry_GetPlayer.cfm/
   include template=dsp_music.cfm/
   /fuseaction
 
 When I go to that fuseaction of main.default, it doesn't display any 
 frames. It just goes to a blank screen.
 
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Re: embedded cfml in system messaging...

2007-06-11 Thread D F
Just had a look. Interesting. 

What would the advantage be with transmorphing CF tags to another language ( ie 
% ).  Certainly I couldn't it just populate a textarea and use JS to limit the 
editability of the embedded CFML code? or is this barking up the wrong tree?


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Re: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???

2007-06-11 Thread JJ Cool
By the title of this thread I thought this was going to be a joke. :(

disappointed,
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Re: Frames in Fusebox solved.. kinda.

2007-06-11 Thread Phillip M. Vector
Strange...

I have header loading up before the framesets are generated and that 
seems to be the issue. Is there a rule that says framesets need to be 
above the body tag?

Phillip M. Vector wrote:
 If it's any help, I'm using a headed (which just puts up the stuff up to 
 and including body) and footer (which closes body and html tags). When I 
 look at the source, the frameset commands aren't there.
 
 Phillip M. Vector wrote:
 I seem to have allot of questions today. :)

 frameset cols=215,0,* frameborder=no border=0 framespacing=0
  frame name=Navigation src=index.cfm?fuseaction=Main.Menu 
 scrolling=Auto noresize
  frame name=Music src=index.cfm?fuseaction=Main.Music 
 scrolling=No noresize
  frame name=Main Window src=index.cfm?fuseaction=Main.Welcome 
 noresize
 /frameset

 The fuseactions are defined like this..

  fuseaction name=default
  include template=dsp_ShowFramesTest.cfm/
  /fuseaction

  fuseaction name=Music
  include template=qry_GetPlayer.cfm/
  include template=dsp_music.cfm/
  /fuseaction

 When I go to that fuseaction of main.default, it doesn't display any 
 frames. It just goes to a blank screen.

 What am I doing wrong?


 
 

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RE: Instant Credit Check

2007-06-11 Thread Robert Rawlins - Think Blue
Hi Robert,

I've not had any experience with this kind of thing myself but I think you will 
probably be better off looking for an API rather than a plug-in per se.

The API would probably come as a web service which you can publish your clients 
data too in XML format and it will then return the credit report as an XML for 
you to parse and make your decision.

After a quick Google around for 'credit api' I found a few different ones 
available from the leading credit agencies, I also found a couple of apps which 
seem work as an 'aggregator'. These sit on your server and you publish xml to 
them, they then return the xml reports from the 3 different leading agencies.

Take a look, I'm not sure how simple they'll be to interact with as they will 
require some rather complex encryption and security guidelines to be met due to 
the sensitivity of the data, but once up and running I'm sure they'll require 
little maintenance.

Robert (also)

-Original Message-
From: Robert Harrrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 11 June 2007 15:59
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Instant Credit Check

Does anyone know of a plug-in I can use (in a secure setting) that would
return an applicants credit score so I could process a credit application
with instant approval?
 
Thanks,
 
Robert B. Harrison
Director of Interactive services
Austin  Williams
125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788
T : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 
F : 631.434.7022
www.austin-williams.com

Great advertising can't be either/or... It must be .
 

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Re: Frames in Fusebox solved for real

2007-06-11 Thread Phillip M. Vector
Ok.. It seems that I was using Do instead of include in the 
fusebox.xml file. :)

Phillip M. Vector wrote:
 Strange...
 
 I have header loading up before the framesets are generated and that 
 seems to be the issue. Is there a rule that says framesets need to be 
 above the body tag?
 
 Phillip M. Vector wrote:
 If it's any help, I'm using a headed (which just puts up the stuff up to 
 and including body) and footer (which closes body and html tags). When I 
 look at the source, the frameset commands aren't there.

 Phillip M. Vector wrote:
 I seem to have allot of questions today. :)

 frameset cols=215,0,* frameborder=no border=0 framespacing=0
 frame name=Navigation src=index.cfm?fuseaction=Main.Menu 
 scrolling=Auto noresize
 frame name=Music src=index.cfm?fuseaction=Main.Music 
 scrolling=No noresize
 frame name=Main Window src=index.cfm?fuseaction=Main.Welcome 
 noresize
 /frameset

 The fuseactions are defined like this..

 fuseaction name=default
 include template=dsp_ShowFramesTest.cfm/
 /fuseaction

 fuseaction name=Music
 include template=qry_GetPlayer.cfm/
 include template=dsp_music.cfm/
 /fuseaction

 When I go to that fuseaction of main.default, it doesn't display any 
 frames. It just goes to a blank screen.

 What am I doing wrong?



 
 

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RE: Instant Credit Check

2007-06-11 Thread Billy Cox
There is always the sub-prime credit approval API:

1. Customer fills-in amount of credit they want to qualify for.
2. If amount is greater than zero and less than $1 million, then API returns
'yes' to approve loan.

This saves alot of headaches and is a snap to set up.  :)



-Original Message-
From: Robert Rawlins - Think Blue
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 11:00 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Instant Credit Check


Hi Robert,

I've not had any experience with this kind of thing myself but I think you
will probably be better off looking for an API rather than a plug-in per se.

The API would probably come as a web service which you can publish your
clients data too in XML format and it will then return the credit report as
an XML for you to parse and make your decision.

After a quick Google around for 'credit api' I found a few different ones
available from the leading credit agencies, I also found a couple of apps
which seem work as an 'aggregator'. These sit on your server and you publish
xml to them, they then return the xml reports from the 3 different leading
agencies.

Take a look, I'm not sure how simple they'll be to interact with as they
will require some rather complex encryption and security guidelines to be
met due to the sensitivity of the data, but once up and running I'm sure
they'll require little maintenance.

Robert (also)

-Original Message-
From: Robert Harrrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 June 2007 15:59
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Instant Credit Check

Does anyone know of a plug-in I can use (in a secure setting) that would
return an applicants credit score so I could process a credit application
with instant approval?

Thanks,

Robert B. Harrison
Director of Interactive services
Austin  Williams
125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788
T : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119
F : 631.434.7022
www.austin-williams.com

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Re: Robust Permissions System

2007-06-11 Thread Christopher Jordan
A friend of mine and I have built one for a client of ours, but it 
doesn't handle things the way we'd really like it to. It's never a very 
big priority to our client (well, not enough for them to give us the 
time to fix it), and yet they're coming up with new needs for 
permissions everyday (or so it seems).

So, yeah, I'd be interested in seeing a robust permissions system, and I 
wouldn't mind helping out on the project either. Perhaps it should be 
entered as an open source project on riaforge.org.

Now having said that, I'm a bit cramped for time this week, but I'd 
still like to contribute to a project like this. Contact me off list if 
you want to discuss further collaboration.

Cheers,
Chris

James Wolfe wrote:
 If noone is aware of a package that does this, are there any of you out there 
 that would be interested in helping me architech/develop it so that it can be 
 a resource available/useful to everyone?

 I can build it for myself with the features that only I need, but it would 
 probably be much more useful for the community if we had some extra input in 
 the requirements gathering phase.



   
 I have to build a robust permissions system for one of my clients. 
 Basically, I need the concept of users and groups and both users and 
 groups are able to be members of other groups. Optimally, it would 
 have Allow/Deny flags so that I could exclude specific users from 
 specific features (like Windows does).

 For example Jon is a member of the SuperAdmins group and the 
 SuperAdmins group is a member of the CalendarEditors group.

 I would then need a CF or SQL function to pass a user and permission 
 to. Something like:

 

   
 hasPermission(Jon,CalendarEditors) 

 to get a true false which would recurse through all the permissions 
 and see if Jon was a member.

 Finally, I would need a way of creating users and groups (though I 
 have most of that from other sites I have built for other clients) and 
 associating users/groups with groups.

 I'd rather not rebuild the wheel and I feel like this MUST be out 
 there in some form.

 Anyone know of an open-source (or otherwise) ColdFusion/MS-SQL (or 
 otherwise) package that does this?
 

 

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RE: Finding current queries

2007-06-11 Thread Brad Wood
I think I see what you are saying now.  You want to examine the query
objects in memory for that the specific request which errored at the
time it errors, but you can't access the variables scope in the error
logging code.  I know that I reference form, url, server, client, and
some others, but I can't say that I have referenced the variables scope
before. I would have try mess around and try it.  I wonder if you have
to do something special like caller.

How are you trapping the errors?  Cfcatch, or onerror()?

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From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 8:11 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Finding current queries

 cfoutput

cfloop collection=#variables# item=i
cfif isquery(variables[i])
#i#: #variables[i].recordcount# recordsbr
/cfif
/cfloop
/cfoutput

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RE: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???

2007-06-11 Thread Brad Wood
So many variables...  Our company is at least 2000 employees, we have 5
CF developers and 6 SQL developers, but only 2 sites.  Of course they
are pretty complex and very database driven, support over 50
child-companies, and require constant new development for new features
and functionality.  If we were simply maintaining a set code-base, it
would only take a few of us though.

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Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:00 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???

I was just curious ... about how many live corporate Web sites does the
average
CF developer manage?  I'm not talking side jobs, or pet projects.  I'm
talking you
work for XYZ company with more than 100 employyes and manage x number of

Web sites all by yourself.  The reason why I ask is I'm managing 6 and
throughout
most of my career I've only had to manage 1.

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Re: AJAX/Fusebox Question

2007-06-11 Thread Brian Kotek
Use Firebug or Charles to look at what is actually getting sent in the AJAX
request. Also confirm that the exact same URL works if you call it in your
browser directly. I've used AJAX with Fusebox (and the other frameworks as
well) so I know it is definitely possible.

HTH,

Brian

On 6/11/07, Phillip M. Vector [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 cfset defaultindex = index.cfm
 cfset self = #defaultindex#?#application.fusebox.fuseactionVariable#=

 Yeah. I made #self# to include the fuseaction as well.

 Charlie Griefer wrote:
  are you sure #self# is defined as index.cfm?fuseaction=?
 
  generally i've seen #self# referenced as index.cfm and #myself#
  referenced as index.cfm?fuseaction=
 
  On 6/11/07, Phillip M. Vector [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Since there is some discussion about AJAX on the list, I thought I
 would
  repost this issue and see if anyone has any ideas as to why it isn't
  working.
 
  form
  Message: input type=text id=Message onkeyup=showmessages()
  onenter=entermessage() size=40
  input type=Hidden id=Room value=1
  /form
 
  function entermessage()
  {
  xmlHttp=GetXmlHttpObject()
  var url=#self#Chat.EnterMessage;
  url=url+room=+document.getElementById(Room).value;
  url=url+message=+document.getElementById(Message).value;
  xmlHttp.onreadystatechange=stateChanged;
  xmlHttp.open(GET,url,true);
  xmlHttp.send(null);
  }
 
  cfquery datasource=#datasource#
  Insert into Chat_Messages
  (Message, Room)
  VALUES
  ('#url.Message#', #url.Room#)
  /cfquery
 
 
  Anyone know why this wouldn't work? It keeps not being able to go to
 the
  proper fusebox circuit.
 
 
  #self# is defined as index.cfm?fuseaction=
 
  But it's getting sent to index.cfm?
 
  *scratches his head*
 
 
 
 

 

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Re: Finding current queries

2007-06-11 Thread Josh Nathanson
I think this thread was discussed before, and you can't get the variables 
scope in onError or with cferror.

You can use cfthrow to set specific messages so you know where the error is 
coming from:
cfif error causing condition 1
cfsavecontent variable=query1
   cfdump var=#myquery#
/cfsavecontent
cfthrow message=Code block 1 has failed because of error causing 
condition 1. #query1#
/cfif

That savecontent part I haven't tested but it should work if you want to 
dump the query.

This is not as robust as being able to use onError, but it does allow you to 
do some dumping at the time of your error.


-- Josh


- Original Message - 
From: Brad Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 7:50 AM
Subject: RE: Finding current queries


I think I see what you are saying now.  You want to examine the query
 objects in memory for that the specific request which errored at the
 time it errors, but you can't access the variables scope in the error
 logging code.  I know that I reference form, url, server, client, and
 some others, but I can't say that I have referenced the variables scope
 before. I would have try mess around and try it.  I wonder if you have
 to do something special like caller.

 How are you trapping the errors?  Cfcatch, or onerror()?

 -Original Message-
 From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 8:11 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Finding current queries

 cfoutput

 cfloop collection=#variables# item=i
 cfif isquery(variables[i])
 #i#: #variables[i].recordcount# recordsbr
 /cfif
 /cfloop
 /cfoutput

 

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Re: Frames in Fusebox solved.. kinda.

2007-06-11 Thread Charlie Griefer
pages with frameset frame don't get body tags.

On 6/11/07, Phillip M. Vector [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Strange...

 I have header loading up before the framesets are generated and that
 seems to be the issue. Is there a rule that says framesets need to be
 above the body tag?

 Phillip M. Vector wrote:
  If it's any help, I'm using a headed (which just puts up the stuff up to
  and including body) and footer (which closes body and html tags). When I
  look at the source, the frameset commands aren't there.
 
  Phillip M. Vector wrote:
  I seem to have allot of questions today. :)
 
  frameset cols=215,0,* frameborder=no border=0 framespacing=0
   frame name=Navigation src=index.cfm?fuseaction=Main.Menu
  scrolling=Auto noresize
   frame name=Music src=index.cfm?fuseaction=Main.Music
  scrolling=No noresize
   frame name=Main Window src=index.cfm?fuseaction=Main.Welcome 
  noresize
  /frameset
 
  The fuseactions are defined like this..
 
   fuseaction name=default
   include template=dsp_ShowFramesTest.cfm/
   /fuseaction
 
   fuseaction name=Music
   include template=qry_GetPlayer.cfm/
   include template=dsp_music.cfm/
   /fuseaction
 
  When I go to that fuseaction of main.default, it doesn't display any
  frames. It just goes to a blank screen.
 
  What am I doing wrong?
 
 
 
 

 

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Yahoo ColdFusion Developer Center

2007-06-11 Thread Wil Genovese
Has anyone here seen this?  Maybe, just maybe some are finally seeing the 
light?  CF isn't dead.  Or it's just a deal Adobe made with Yahoo since the 
JavaScript libraries included in CF8 are from The Yahoo! User Interface (YUI) 
Library.

http://developer.yahoo.com/coldfusion/



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Re: Yahoo ColdFusion Developer Center

2007-06-11 Thread Charlie Griefer
i don't think it was a deal between Adobe and Yahoo.

my understanding is that ray camden brokered the deal.
http://www.coldfusionjedi.com/index.cfm/2007/6/7/It-is-here--Yahoo-launches-ColdFusion-Developer-Center

but yes... very cool to be getting some positive exposure :)

On 6/11/07, Wil Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Has anyone here seen this?  Maybe, just maybe some are finally seeing the 
 light?  CF isn't dead.  Or it's just a deal Adobe made with Yahoo since the 
 JavaScript libraries included in CF8 are from The Yahoo! User Interface (YUI) 
 Library.

 http://developer.yahoo.com/coldfusion/



 

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Re: Yahoo ColdFusion Developer Center

2007-06-11 Thread J.J. Merrick
Ray Camden has been helping get it going, you can check out his blog entry
here:

http://www.coldfusionjedi.com/index.cfm/2007/6/7/It-is-here--Yahoo-launches-ColdFusion-Developer-Center


J.J.

On 6/11/07, Wil Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Has anyone here seen this?  Maybe, just maybe some are finally seeing the
 light?  CF isn't dead.  Or it's just a deal Adobe made with Yahoo since the
 JavaScript libraries included in CF8 are from The Yahoo! User Interface
 (YUI) Library.

 http://developer.yahoo.com/coldfusion/



 

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Re: Yahoo ColdFusion Developer Center

2007-06-11 Thread Josh Nathanson
Yeah, Ray Camden announced this last week on his blog -- he was instrumental 
in making this happen.

But they STILL haven't added the CF link in the left side menu, and it's 
been a few days now.  CF = Rodney Dangerfield.  Don't get no respect.

-- Josh

- Original Message - 
From: Wil Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:02 AM
Subject: Yahoo ColdFusion Developer Center


 Has anyone here seen this?  Maybe, just maybe some are finally seeing the 
 light?  CF isn't dead.  Or it's just a deal Adobe made with Yahoo since 
 the JavaScript libraries included in CF8 are from The Yahoo! User 
 Interface (YUI) Library.

 http://developer.yahoo.com/coldfusion/



 

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Re: SLQ Injection on CF7 Site

2007-06-11 Thread JJ Cool
 I guess I should also add that if hackers are seeing useful 

You don't need to wrap every query with CFTRY/CFCATCH; you're better off
reserving that for specific exceptions where you can present a specific
solution. If you just use CFERROR/onError to capture runtime exceptions, you
can get the same results in a more structured way.

While I'm not sure I fully agree with this, there is a cogent argument to be
made in favor of not scrubbing client data:
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Wrong.html


Good point about cftry cfcatch, depends on how you want to do it I guess. Using 
a CFERROR/OnError, what would you do if you wanted to handle different types of 
errors in different ways depending on the situation?

I think Joel's article is speaking more about coding practices when dealing 
with unsafe data rather than whether or not you should scrub data. His little 
code samples are even scrubbing data before outputs by using the Encode() 
function. The point is that you should code in such a way to make it clear and 
easy for the eye to catch if you are doing outputs without cleaning up user 
inputs in some way. Further, even if you want to store unsafe inputs into a 
database you will still most definitely want to clean up the inputs to make 
sure that no SQL injecting is going to happen. Good article though by the way. 

CoolJJ

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RE: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???

2007-06-11 Thread Brad Wood
You were thinking of How many CF developers does it take to screw in a light 
bulb?.

Just one.  The light bulb costs more than open source alternatives, but is 
easier to turn on and off and leverages the power of the same underlying Java 
filament.

~Brad

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From: JJ Cool [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:47 AM
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Subject: Re: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???

By the title of this thread I thought this was going to be a joke. :(

disappointed,
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Re: Yahoo ColdFusion Developer Center

2007-06-11 Thread Wil Genovese
OK, I get the picture now, Ray got this going.  Thanks Ray!


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Performance advantage - LIMIT VS. maxrows?

2007-06-11 Thread Will Tomlinson
MX7 / MySQL 5. 

I need to query a large table of data, but only want to pull the top 10 rows or 
so. 

Is there an advantage to using LIMIT 10 in the query, over cfquery 
maxrows=10? 

Or vice versa?

Thanks,
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RE: Performance advantage - LIMIT VS. maxrows?

2007-06-11 Thread Russ
I believe if you specify maxrows=10 it will pull down the whole resultset
and then only grab the first 10 rows.  Similar to doing cfoutput
query=queryName maxrows=10

Using Top/Limit is preferable. 

Russ


 -Original Message-
 From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 1:37 PM
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 Subject: Performance advantage - LIMIT VS. maxrows?
 
 MX7 / MySQL 5.
 
 I need to query a large table of data, but only want to pull the top 10
 rows or so.
 
 Is there an advantage to using LIMIT 10 in the query, over cfquery
 maxrows=10?
 
 Or vice versa?
 
 Thanks,
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Re: Performance advantage - LIMIT VS. maxrows?

2007-06-11 Thread Charlie Griefer
I'll have to double check this... but I believe recent versions of CF
(as of MX perhaps?) do -not- pull down the whole resultset.

If this is the case (and I stress -if-...), then I'd say that using
maxrows would be preferrable as it'd make your applications more
portable across different databases.



On 6/11/07, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I believe if you specify maxrows=10 it will pull down the whole resultset
 and then only grab the first 10 rows.  Similar to doing cfoutput
 query=queryName maxrows=10

 Using Top/Limit is preferable.

 Russ


  -Original Message-
  From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 1:37 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Performance advantage - LIMIT VS. maxrows?
 
  MX7 / MySQL 5.
 
  I need to query a large table of data, but only want to pull the top 10
  rows or so.
 
  Is there an advantage to using LIMIT 10 in the query, over cfquery
  maxrows=10?
 
  Or vice versa?
 
  Thanks,
  Will
 
 

 

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Re: Yahoo ColdFusion Developer Center

2007-06-11 Thread Raymond Camden
The lack of the link is due to a redesign. I'm not sure if I'm
supposed to say that outloud or not - but they definitely know about
it and it is in the new design.

On 6/11/07, Josh Nathanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yeah, Ray Camden announced this last week on his blog -- he was instrumental
 in making this happen.

 But they STILL haven't added the CF link in the left side menu, and it's
 been a few days now.  CF = Rodney Dangerfield.  Don't get no respect.

 -- Josh

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 Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:02 AM
 Subject: Yahoo ColdFusion Developer Center


  Has anyone here seen this?  Maybe, just maybe some are finally seeing the
  light?  CF isn't dead.  Or it's just a deal Adobe made with Yahoo since
  the JavaScript libraries included in CF8 are from The Yahoo! User
  Interface (YUI) Library.
 
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RE: Performance advantage - LIMIT VS. maxrows?

2007-06-11 Thread Andy Matthews
That's correct. Unless you NEED the whole dataset, it's always better to
limit at the query level, rather than the output level. 

-Original Message-
From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:49 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Performance advantage - LIMIT VS. maxrows?

I believe if you specify maxrows=10 it will pull down the whole resultset
and then only grab the first 10 rows.  Similar to doing cfoutput
query=queryName maxrows=10

Using Top/Limit is preferable. 

Russ


 -Original Message-
 From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 1:37 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Performance advantage - LIMIT VS. maxrows?
 
 MX7 / MySQL 5.
 
 I need to query a large table of data, but only want to pull the top 
 10 rows or so.
 
 Is there an advantage to using LIMIT 10 in the query, over cfquery 
 maxrows=10?
 
 Or vice versa?
 
 Thanks,
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Re: Finding current queries

2007-06-11 Thread Claude Schneegans
 I think this thread was discussed before, and you can't get the 
variables
scope in onError or with cferror.

Exact, I was the one to asked the question.
However, I just found that the request scope is available from the 
CFERROR template.
For instance, this works:

CFERROR TYPE=EXCEPTION TEMPLATE=testError.cfm
!--- Create a query ---
CFQUERY NAME=request.testQuery DATASOURCE=FAFO
  SELECT * from events
/CFQUERY
!--- Make an error ---
CFSET test = request.testQuery.columnDoesntExist

Then in testError.cfm:

CFLOOP COLLECTION=#request# ITEM=item
CFIF isQuery (request[item])
  CFOUTPUTQuery #item# has #request[item].recordCount# records/CFOUTPUT
/CFIF
/CFLOOP

Having all queries in the request scope isn't so bad, but this would 
mean changing a lot
of references to columns in the code.

 You can use cfthrow to set specific messages so you know where the 
error is
coming from:

Yes, but that would also require modifying hundreds of queries in the code.

cfif error causing condition 1
cfsavecontent variable=query1
   cfdump var=#myquery#
/cfsavecontent
cfthrow message=Code block 1 has failed because of error causing
condition 1. #query1#
/cfif

 This is not as robust as being able to use onError, but it does allow 
you to
do some dumping at the time of your error.

Considering the work it would imply, I think putting queries in the 
request scope could be a better solution.

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Re: Yahoo ColdFusion Developer Center

2007-06-11 Thread Josh Nathanson
 The lack of the link is due to a redesign. I'm not sure if I'm
 supposed to say that outloud or not - but they definitely know about
 it and it is in the new design.

Geez, the bureaucracy...how hard is it to pop a link in there in the 
meantime.  Oh well.

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Re: Finding current queries

2007-06-11 Thread Claude Schneegans
 How are you trapping the errors?  Cfcatch, or onerror()?

I use CFCATCH for all errors that could normally happen, ie: CFHTTP on a 
site which does not respond.

I use CFERROR for all unexpected errors.

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Re: Yahoo ColdFusion Developer Center

2007-06-11 Thread Raymond Camden
Heh, folks could say the same things to me about some of my sites. ;)
Cut em a break.

On 6/11/07, Josh Nathanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The lack of the link is due to a redesign. I'm not sure if I'm
  supposed to say that outloud or not - but they definitely know about
  it and it is in the new design.

 Geez, the bureaucracy...how hard is it to pop a link in there in the
 meantime.  Oh well.

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Re: Performance advantage - LIMIT VS. maxrows?

2007-06-11 Thread Charlie Griefer
not 100% confirmed, but a 95% confirmation from mr camden:

(pasted with permission from #coldfusion on IRC/DALnet)

[11:02] [CJ] so in response to a question on cf-talk... i'm
wondering if anyone can confirm that recent versions of CF (as of MX?)
do NOT pull all records from the database when the MAXROWS attribute
is specified in the cfquery tag?
[11:03] [CJ] i know older versions pulled all records but just
delivered the number specified in the MAXROWS.  i remember hearing
that this was resolved in newer versions tho
[11:03] Boyzoid I don;t recall hearing that
[11:03] cfjedimaster correct
[11:03] Boyzoid though I rarely use MAXROWS
[11:03] cfjedimaster in MX, it uses the JDBC
[11:03] cfjedimaster so its cool to use
[11:03] cfjedimaster as long as the driver supports it
[11:03] [CJ] sweet.  thanks :)
[11:03] phill_nacelli I think the amount of data returned from the
db to cf is still the same isnt' it??
[11:04] cfjedimaster phil, no
[11:04] cfjedimaster afaik
[11:04] cfjedimaster im not 100% on this
[11:04] cfjedimaster but around 95% ;)
[11:04] cfjedimaster i dont think it changes the sql-
[11:04] cfjedimaster but does a more direct thing to the db
[11:04] cfjedimaster ie, Hey db! listen, in this sql, just give me
top N rows

On 6/11/07, Charlie Griefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'll have to double check this... but I believe recent versions of CF
 (as of MX perhaps?) do -not- pull down the whole resultset.

 If this is the case (and I stress -if-...), then I'd say that using
 maxrows would be preferrable as it'd make your applications more
 portable across different databases.



 On 6/11/07, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I believe if you specify maxrows=10 it will pull down the whole resultset
  and then only grab the first 10 rows.  Similar to doing cfoutput
  query=queryName maxrows=10
 
  Using Top/Limit is preferable.
 
  Russ
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 1:37 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Performance advantage - LIMIT VS. maxrows?
  
   MX7 / MySQL 5.
  
   I need to query a large table of data, but only want to pull the top 10
   rows or so.
  
   Is there an advantage to using LIMIT 10 in the query, over cfquery
   maxrows=10?
  
   Or vice versa?
  
   Thanks,
   Will
  
  
 
  

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Re: SLQ Injection on CF7 Site

2007-06-11 Thread Claude Schneegans
 You don't need to wrap every query with CFTRY/CFCATCH; you're better off
reserving that for specific exceptions where you can present a specific
solution. If you just use CFERROR/onError to capture runtime exceptions, you
can get the same results in a more structured way.

Exact.
In the CFERROR template, I do this :
if the server is localhost dump everything you can (form scope, url, 
session, application, etc)
else dump everything in a variable and store it in a memo in the 
database for further looking (or mail it to the developer)

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RE: SLQ Injection on CF7 Site

2007-06-11 Thread Dave Watts
 Good point about cftry cfcatch, depends on how you want to do 
 it I guess. Using a CFERROR/OnError, what would you do if you 
 wanted to handle different types of errors in different ways 
 depending on the situation?

You'd look at the exception information that's exposed to your CFERROR
page(s). If you really have a specific problem and a specific solution, by
all means you should use CFTRY/CFCATCH. Usually, though, you have a specific
problem but a more general solution - for example, if you have a problem
with database queries, you might handle that problem the same way with any
database query you have.

 I think Joel's article is speaking more about coding 
 practices when dealing with unsafe data rather than whether 
 or not you should scrub data. His little code samples are 
 even scrubbing data before outputs by using the Encode() 
 function. The point is that you should code in such a way to 
 make it clear and easy for the eye to catch if you are doing 
 outputs without cleaning up user inputs in some way. Further, 
 even if you want to store unsafe inputs into a database you 
 will still most definitely want to clean up the inputs to 
 make sure that no SQL injecting is going to happen. Good 
 article though by the way.

Joel's article covers a lot of ground - the evolution and misappropriation
of Hungarian notation, the value of self-documenting coding strategies, the
history of Microsoft Word, how exception handling violates self-documenting
coding strategies - but it specifically addresses storing unsafe strings
instead of converting them to safe strings when they're received. The
assumption is that you may need the original string data for certain things,
but that you would always sanitize it before writing it to an HTML page.

And, if you use CFQUERYPARAM or CFPROCPARAM or any other mechanism that lets
you build prepared statements or their analogues, no SQL injecting will
happen - the specific purpose of a prepared statement is to separate
executable code (your SQL statement) from data (your inputs). It doesn't
matter what's in the data, it won't be treated as executable SQL code by the
database. You may still want to sanitize it to prevent XSS, but as Joel's
article points out, this could happen when you accept the values, or when
you display the values.

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Re: Performance advantage - LIMIT VS. maxrows?

2007-06-11 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Charlie Griefer wrote:
 I'll have to double check this... but I believe recent versions of CF
 (as of MX perhaps?) do -not- pull down the whole resultset.
 
 If this is the case (and I stress -if-...), then I'd say that using
 maxrows would be preferrable as it'd make your applications more
 portable across different databases.

Even then limit is still preferable performance wise. It gives the 
database the opportunity to better optimize the query and choose an 
execution plan that may have a higher cost at a large number of records, 
but a lower cost at a low number of records.

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Re: SOT: quick file publisher for CFEclipse

2007-06-11 Thread Cutter (CFRelated)
Use Ant to publish a build from Subversion

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Jake Pilgrim wrote:
 I'm finally taking the plunge to CFEclipse. So far I am liking it quite a 
 bit, but with one catch - I'm not finding a quick way to publish files. I 
 have a mapped network drive to our development server and our production 
 server. In Dreamweaver I was able to set up the development server drive as 
 my 'workspace' and the production server drive as the remote server - this 
 allowed me to upload files by simply clicking 'put'. I have seen the export 
 feature and it does perform the same task, but there are quite a few steps to 
 this that I would prefer not to have to take. Anyone know of a good plugin 
 for this?
 
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Server Cluster

2007-06-11 Thread James Smith
I am thinking of setting up a virtual cluster to run our website for
reliability reasons. Does anyone have any good documentation
(preferably in a PDF or other offline readable format) in the form of
a beginners guide to CF clusters?

Also, what is the licencing requirement for this, I am aware I can use
the same copy of Windows Server in multiple virtual machines but will
each one require it's own CF licence or can they share a licence since
they run on the same processor(s)?

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qForms - How to maintain selections?

2007-06-11 Thread Will Tomlinson
I've screwed with this for a few hours now and can't figure out howta maintain 
the selections in my form, after the form is submitted. 

Select test eval 1 in the top dropdown. Then choose Business technologies  
Business Administration  ITN.

Click view report. 

I can't get the form to save the selects and pre-select them. 

Any ideas?

Thanks,
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Re: qForms - How to maintain selections?

2007-06-11 Thread Will Tomlinson
Oops, here's the link:

http://208.106.220.252/soundings/T8Report.cfm

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16 character limit on SQL pass

2007-06-11 Thread Brad Wood
Does anyone know why ColdFusion datasources have a 16 character limit on
passwords?  My DBA just created a monster 38 character password which
looked like someone sat on his keyboard while he was typing.  I had to
tell him to trim it down a little.  :-)

 

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Re: AJAX Libraries

2007-06-11 Thread Dinner
On 6/11/07, Andy Matthews wrote:
 FYI, while jQuery doesn't do this out of the box, there is a plugin to manage 
 the back
 button.

Sweet! Gotta have that back button handled, neh!

Are you using the plugin?  Does it use a hidden iframe, or another method?

I like the fact that the stuff is sorta baked in with dojo... from
the beginning
it was meant to be robust, which is a different philosophy than the small but
pluggable- better or worse depends on the scale of the app, somewhat.

I wasn't aware of the Accessibility aspect of dojo, which I think is HUGE (it
sorta peeves me that Accessibility takes a back seat in so many places,
which is ironic, as I've put it in the back seat of 90% of what I've done.).
Thanks, Sandra!  You'd think a fan would know that! =-P

Another exciting aspect is the Internationalization stuff- again, not so much
a plugin (but you can exclude it) as a concept-  It's important to the library
as a whole, you know?  I dig that.

Themes are slowly making their way out the door...

It's just really, really, robust.  Tests for just about everything, etc..

Part of the deal, I guess, is the bit about using ORMs vs. knowing SQL.
It's a good thing to know SQL, even tho it can be startlingly easy to
slap together a site now without knowing any.  It's still awful hard to do
some stuff via ORM alone, tho, so...  same applies to JS, in a manner.

There has just been a /ton/ of thought (and debate, etc.) put into dojo,
with things in mind that I think a lot of the other libraries are just now
sorta getting to the point of needing/thinking about.

It's always tougher when you didn't foresee something getting so big,
if you read me.  Script scope separation, for instance.  Does your lib
handle script separation? (--question directed toward potential library
pickers, not Andy specifically. :).

Does your library have ways to specify events are connected just once?
Does your library have a robust event system?  Will your library grow
with your needs, to the point of off-line accessibility?  Comet?
And do it pretty cohesively?

Do all your plugins play nice with each other?  Do /you/ (the end user)
have to verify that when you add plugin X, it doesn't mess up plugin Y?
*   *   *

With such an nice, open subject, I figured I'd throw these questions/
considerations out there, keep the good info flowing, etc..

And it's a slight battle of the libraries, which I think is good, no? =]

PS- dojo's api seems clear enough to me.  I don't have any problems with
the source, at least.  Pretty easy to see what does what, etc..

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RE: qForms - How to maintain selections?

2007-06-11 Thread Dan G. Switzer, II
You're never calling the setDefault() function...

Call that after your objForm initialization code at the bottom of the script
or during the window.onload event.

-Dan

-Original Message-
From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 4:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: qForms - How to maintain selections?

Oops, here's the link:

http://208.106.220.252/soundings/T8Report.cfm

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RE: Server Cluster

2007-06-11 Thread Brad Wood
To answer one of your many questions.  You will need CF Enterprise. Once
you have obtained the appropriate license for each physical server (and
all their processors) you can add as many CF instances as you want.
Each of them belonging to one big cluster or several smaller clusters.
You name it-- there are no restrictions on the number or configuration
of your clusters.

There are several adobe technotes and blogs about setting up clusters.
I found most of them through people on this list and Google though I
don't remember there being any one definitive document that answered all
my questions.  

~Brad


Also, what is the licencing requirement for this, I am aware I can use
the same copy of Windows Server in multiple virtual machines but will
each one require it's own CF licence or can they share a licence since
they run on the same processor(s)?

--
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RE: qForms - How to maintain selections?

2007-06-11 Thread Dan G. Switzer, II
You're never calling the setDefault() function...

Call that after your objForm initialization code at the bottom of the
script
or during the window.onload event.

Better yet, put it in the init() function.

FYI - Used Firebug to add the following HTML code right after the View
Report button:

input type=button onclick=setDefault() value=Defaults/

When I click that button, the defaults get set. Which further proves you're
never calling that code...

-Dan


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RE: Server Cluster

2007-06-11 Thread Dave Watts
 I am thinking of setting up a virtual cluster to run our 
 website for reliability reasons. Does anyone have any good 
 documentation (preferably in a PDF or other offline readable 
 format) in the form of a beginners guide to CF clusters?

There's plenty of stuff in the documentation itself, as well as Adobe
Devnet.

 Also, what is the licencing requirement for this, I am aware 
 I can use the same copy of Windows Server in multiple virtual 
 machines but will each one require it's own CF licence or can 
 they share a licence since they run on the same processor(s)?

Actually, you can't just use the same copy of Windows Server in multiple
virtual machines. Microsoft has a VM licensing calendar here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/howtobuy/licensing/calculator.msp
x

As for CF, though, it's licensed per two physical processors, so there's no
limitation as far as installing it into multiple VMs. However, if your goal
is purely reliability of your site, instead of using multiple VMs you might
just want to set up multiple instances of CF within a single physical OS
instance per physical server.

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Re: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???

2007-06-11 Thread Dinner
1

Heck, I manage a bunch.  Too much, actually.

Just got a couple of contractors turned comrades in arms tho.
It was trial by fire.  No one died, so we're good to go.

Still bringing them up to speed on the frameworks, but it's been
nice having people who understand what I do around...  people
to tell coding jokes too, etc..
* * *

Klingon function calls do not have parameters-- they have
arguments-- AND THEY ALWAYS WIN THEM.

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Re: Server Cluster

2007-06-11 Thread James Smith
so would you recomend one server with multiple jrun instances or multiple
virtual servers with one on each?

On 11/06/07, Brad Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 To answer one of your many questions.  You will need CF Enterprise. Once
 you have obtained the appropriate license for each physical server (and
 all their processors) you can add as many CF instances as you want.
 Each of them belonging to one big cluster or several smaller clusters.
 You name it-- there are no restrictions on the number or configuration
 of your clusters.

 There are several adobe technotes and blogs about setting up clusters.
 I found most of them through people on this list and Google though I
 don't remember there being any one definitive document that answered all
 my questions.

 ~Brad


 Also, what is the licencing requirement for this, I am aware I can use
 the same copy of Windows Server in multiple virtual machines but will
 each one require it's own CF licence or can they share a licence since
 they run on the same processor(s)?

 --
 Jay




 

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Re: Server Cluster

2007-06-11 Thread James Smith
 Actually, you can't just use the same copy of Windows Server in multiple
 virtual machines. Microsoft has a VM licensing calendar here:
 http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/howtobuy/licensing/calculator.msp
 x

Good catch, I would have missed that.

 As for CF, though, it's licensed per two physical processors, so there's no
 limitation as far as installing it into multiple VMs. However, if your goal
 is purely reliability of your site, instead of using multiple VMs you might
 just want to set up multiple instances of CF within a single physical OS
 instance per physical server.

So I can have as many instances as I like so long as they are all on
the 2 processors, that may be a better option then since reliability
and up time is my only concern here.

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Re: qForms - How to maintain selections?

2007-06-11 Thread Will Tomlinson

Better yet, put it in the init() function.

FYI - Used Firebug to add the following HTML code right after the View
Report button:

Thanks for helpin' me with this Dan. I'm trying to setDefault() in the init(). 
It still doesn't seem to work. I know I'm not doin' somethin' right here.

This is the end of my JS now:

function init(){
// initialize the qForm object
objForm = new qForm(evalfilterform);

// make these fields required
objForm.required(Tier7,Tier6,Tier5);
// this example shows how you could pre-populate the form

function setDefault(){
cfoutput
objForm.Tier7.setValue(#FORM.tier7#);
objForm.Tier6.setValue(#FORM.tier6#);
objForm.Tier5.setValue(#FORM.tier5#);
objForm.Tier4.setValue(#FORM.tier4#);
objForm.Tier3.setValue(#FORM.tier3#);
objForm.Tier2.setValue(#FORM.tier2#);
objForm.Tier1.setValue(#FORM.tier1#);
/cfoutput 
}


}
//--
/script
!--// [ end ] initialize all default extension libraries  //--


http://208.106.220.252/soundings/T8Report.cfm

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RE: qForms - How to maintain selections?

2007-06-11 Thread Dan G. Switzer, II
Will,

Move the function back to where it was and do this:

function init(){
// initialize the qForm object
objForm = new qForm(evalfilterform);

// make these fields required
objForm.required(Tier7,Tier6,Tier5);

// this example shows how you could pre-populate the form
setDefaults();
}

While you're defining the function, you're never actually *executing* the
function...

-Dan

-Original Message-
From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 5:54 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: qForms - How to maintain selections?


Better yet, put it in the init() function.

FYI - Used Firebug to add the following HTML code right after the View
Report button:

Thanks for helpin' me with this Dan. I'm trying to setDefault() in the
init(). It still doesn't seem to work. I know I'm not doin' somethin' right
here.

This is the end of my JS now:

function init(){
   // initialize the qForm object
   objForm = new qForm(evalfilterform);

   // make these fields required
   objForm.required(Tier7,Tier6,Tier5);
   // this example shows how you could pre-populate the form

   function setDefault(){
   cfoutput
   objForm.Tier7.setValue(#FORM.tier7#);
   objForm.Tier6.setValue(#FORM.tier6#);
   objForm.Tier5.setValue(#FORM.tier5#);
   objForm.Tier4.setValue(#FORM.tier4#);
   objForm.Tier3.setValue(#FORM.tier3#);
   objForm.Tier2.setValue(#FORM.tier2#);
   objForm.Tier1.setValue(#FORM.tier1#);
   /cfoutput
   }


   }
//--
/script
!--// [ end ] initialize all default extension libraries  //--


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Using sessions with Flash Remoting

2007-06-11 Thread John Robinson
I'm trying to use session with remoting, but not having any luck. I  
simply want to store some user vars (temporary user_id) in a cookie,  
and when the session ends (or hopefully, the user closes the window)  
the server takes those vars and executes a query to delete that user  
from a database.  Could anyone point in the right direction, either  
with code samples or links?

Thanks,
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Re: Robust Permissions System

2007-06-11 Thread Dinner
Jim has his DP libraries, you might check out the security one.

http://tinyurl.com/256snz

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 A friend of mine and I have built one for a client of ours, but it
 doesn't handle things the way we'd really like it to. It's never a very
 big priority to our client (well, not enough for them to give us the
 time to fix it), and yet they're coming up with new needs for
 permissions everyday (or so it seems).

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RE: Server Cluster

2007-06-11 Thread Brad Wood
I would definitely recommend having multiple JRUN instances of CF on a
single OS.  If you have crazy code it's just going to take down one
instance.  Generally I don't think CF servers crash due to OS
instability.  Why waste the overhead of windows times 5?

~Brad

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Subject: Re: Server Cluster

so would you recomend one server with multiple jrun instances or
multiple
virtual servers with one on each?

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Re: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???

2007-06-11 Thread Dinner
On 6/11/07, Brad Wood wrote:
 You were thinking of How many CF developers does it take to screw in a light 
 bulb?.

Just one, but don't ask me how it got in there.

Or,

3 hundred, but don't ask me why.  =-P
(the short made me laugh.  Good job whoever!)

Yes, much better.  Good point CoolJJ!

Oh, wait, you probably meant /good/ jokes... (Yer'z was ok, B-dubbs :)

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