RE: RFC: CFMX Runtime Server
So do u still get a cfadmin if u do this ? -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 January 2007 11:20 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: RFC: CFMX Runtime Server AJ Mercer wrote: If the EAR contains the CF engine, wouldn't this require a license too (for each server it is deployed on)? That is what the ISV does. He delivers a complete application that can be deployed on any standard J2EE server with a license for X CPUs. The hosting party does not have to know anything about CF, they don't have a have any licenses for CF, they just deploy the EAR/WAR. Jochem ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265916 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: RFC: CFMX Runtime Server
They already have something to complete with Railo/Smith/BD Its called ColdFusion MX Russ -Original Message- From: AJ Mercer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 January 2007 03:01 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: RFC: CFMX Runtime Server Yep - something for Adobe to release - to compete with Railo/smith/BD. On 1/5/07, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess the free/trail developer edition should not be able to produce the package that can be deployed to the runtime version. Oh, your idea is that Adobe would develop this tool? I thought you had this idea for yourself ;-) -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265772 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: RFC: CFMX Runtime Server
Nothing would stop you doing that, and I presume that is why CF has this feature. I believe you need CFMX Enterprise to actually do the sourceless deployment though. Russ -Original Message- From: Neil Middleton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 January 2007 10:02 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: RFC: CFMX Runtime Server OK, well working on that basis - what is to stop me from buying only one server for building my WAR files and deploying them to a whole host of j2ee containers in my test and production environments? Even more than that, do I even have to pay for CFMX is dev edition is free (assuming it can also do WAR deployment - haven't got a copy to hand)? Neil On 1/5/07, Jochem van Dieten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AJ Mercer wrote: I have an idea for a free ColdFusion server product that would I like to put out there for discussion : A CF runtime server The runtime server is like the CF server, but with no compiler. You develop and compile your web application on a licensed product, and then package it up as a sourceless deploy. This could then be put on a server with the CF runtime product. Your runtime server already exists. Just compile your application into an EAR file in your development environment and deploy it to any J2EE server. Jochem ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265774 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Richest ColdFusion E-Commerce Site
Perhaps the best solution would be to develop it in the way you are most comfortable with, and provide an API for everyone else to make modifications. Russ -Original Message- From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 January 2007 01:50 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Richest ColdFusion E-Commerce Site Port it to FB 4 or 5 and it'll be the sexiest EVER! Is it in an MVC pattern in FB3? No way! A large percentage of my users struggle with just the FB, MVC would shatter their brains. LOL Seriously, the number of people that buy my software that even have a clue about stuff like MVC and OO is so low that it just isn't even a consideration to go there. That's assuming I had a year or more to kill and completely reprogram it that way. Ecommerce buyers generally care about two main things...the features the software has, and how easy it will be for them to go in and make modifications. I try very hard to cover both bases well, and moving to MVC really would not serve either. Honestly, I do get far more people that complain that FB is too confusing than ones that want something like MVC. Granted, there are *definitely* some users that would like this, but it's a very small minority. In a recent survey of my users, less than 20% even cared about converting the software from FB3 to 4. They cared *way* more about the actual feature set. So I've spent over a year making it the best, most feature-rich software that I could. And I do believe I have that...I just have to get all the last bits of code completed, everything beta-tested, update all the docs, write all those complicated update scripts, etc. No problem, I just won't sleep this month. ;-) And even after this release is done, I have a pretty long list of even more feature and code improvements I want to make and I hope to do another major release in a relatively short time (1 year as opposed to typically several years.) E-commerce is still a rapidly growing field and everytime people see something cool on Amazon.com, they want it too. ;-) I think there are some experts around with alot of experience porting apps from FB3 to 4 or 5. Sure, if I had thousands of dollars to pay them for it. Believe me, it would be a pretty big undertaking to do, because it's not just a matter of converting the basic code (which is difficult enough.) It has to be done in a way that I don't have to make my current users completely redo all their store layouts (the current system for product/category/store pages, etc. is very tied into a FB3 layout system) and it has to deal with converting my entire role permissions and content access system that is based on the Hal Helms security model for FB3. The security system has been extended to do all kinds of things in the software, from selling memberships to the store to controlling which products an admin can edit, so it's going to be very tricky to deal with and to update existing sites as well. It's a very different matter to take an off-the-shelf software product and convert from FB3 to FB5 than it is to take an individual site and do it, because I can't leave all my current customers in the dust. I bet if you gave a few licenses away to some Fuseboxers you'd get all the help you need. I would help out. Oh, I have offered, to the ones that have bought my software. And a number have offered to help in the past, but once they look at what *really* is involved and the hurdles that have to be cleared, it usually scares them off. After all, even a couple licenses doesn't go far in paying a developer's salary. ;-) Still, if the CF community continues to grow and my new version is as successful as I hope it will be, it may be more feasible for me to pay a really top-notch Fuseboxer to help convert the code. I agree that the improvements in FB4/5 are nothing to sneer at, and even though I do believe it's a fair amount harder for newcomers to understand than 3, it's still a goal of mine to get there at some point. But I still am proud of having one of the few e-commerce products out there that follows *any* kind of framework. It may not be the latest and greatest framework...but even if I did get it converted, it would just be out-of-date again in a few years any way! Mary Jo Sminkey http://www.cfwebstore.com CFWebstore, ColdFusion E-commerce ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265771 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: ColdFusion OOP Security Framework
I have the following roles based security model.
Every resource in my applications have a permission. Use use actual plain
text permission names so they are easy to remember, but a unique UUID can be
generated instead.
E.G.
USERS
-View Users
-Edit Users
-Delete Users
-Create users
I have a permission configuration tool that is part of my framework admin
interface.
I create my resources and then create all the permissions.
I then Create Groups (roles), and assign resources/permissions to those
groups.
A user is then assigned to a group.
When a user logs in, all their permissions are read in and stored in their
session.
I then have a UDF that checks permissions for each page for each user.
E.g.
cfif request.HasPermissions('permission required')
process as normal
cfelse
call my access denied module
/cfif
The UDF can easily be replaced by a CFC for your OOP type application.
--
Russ
-Original Message-
From: Dan Vega [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 January 2007 14:33
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion OOP Security Framework
What does your security manager need from your generic Authenticator? Got a
quick uml of methods and variables from each? Im not sure what side of the
fence im on yet as far as cf needing interfaces. I am testing bd out right
now because their beta has interfaces.
On 1/5/07, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Friday 05 January 2007 13:28, Dan Vega wrote:
II have some notes on a new security model I am working on. Any
feedback
is
welcome.
We inject a project specific 'Authenticator' CFC into a generic
'SecurityManager' using ColdSpring.
And it'd look a lot nicer with cfinterface too :-)
--
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RE: RFC: CFMX Runtime Server
And how would they compile your CFML pages into Java ? You need ColdFusion server for that. -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 January 2007 15:24 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: RFC: CFMX Runtime Server Snake wrote: I believe you need CFMX Enterprise to actually do the sourceless deployment though. No, you need a J2EE server (like the free JBoss and Glassfish) or a Servlet engine (like Tomcat). Jochem ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265838 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: TinyMCE editor problem
I guess this is normal, cozz it happens on mine too. -Original Message- From: Chad McCue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 January 2007 18:01 To: CF-Talk Subject: TinyMCE editor problem I am using TinyMCE theme Simple on some of my pages, but when I submit the form (Using ColdFusion MX 7) the textarea the TinyMCE is attached to clears out. The correct information in the textbox before I click the Submit button is sent to the submit page. I can't have the textbox clear out because people are thinking the text they enter is being erased and not saved. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265839 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: RFC: CFMX Runtime Server
Correct! -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 January 2007 18:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: RFC: CFMX Runtime Server Snake wrote: And how would they compile your CFML pages into Java ? You need ColdFusion server for that. The developer needs CF to create the EAR file. At the place you are deploying all you need is a J2EE server. Jochem ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265866 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Query of Queries question
Or even easier, without the loop. cfset list_id = ValueList(qMyQuery.id) cfquery dbtype=query SELECT * FROM qMyQuery WHERE id IN (#list_id#) /cfquery -- Russ -Original Message- From: Terry Sta. Maria [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 January 2007 20:52 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Query of Queries question You don't necessarily have to create a query from scratch. Instead, if there is a column (with a simple datatype) that uniquely identifies each row, this can be done with a list and a query of queries. If qMyQuery.id is such a column, then you can get those all into a list: cfset list_id = '' cfloop query=qMyQuery cfif qMyQuery.currentRow gte int_rowStart and qMyQuery.currentRow lte int_rowEnd cfset list_id = listAppend(list_id, qMyQuery.id) cfelseif qMyQuery.currentRow gt int_rowEnd cfbreak /cfif /cfloop Then you can do your query of queries with this list: cfquery dbtype=query SELECT * FROM qMyQuery WHERE id IN (#list_id#) /cfquery If your id column isn't numeric, you can loop through the list creating LIKE clauses for string, or similar comparisons for other simple data types. Hope this helps. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265875 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Basic Level CMS Solution?
ActiveEdit is not a CMS solution, it is just the WYSIWYG component that you would use in a CMS solution. Take a look at savvy CMS from www.besavvy.com There are also some even more basic ones such as Sparkplug Russ -Original Message- From: Paul Henderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 January 2007 22:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: Basic Level CMS Solution? I'm trying to find a very basic level CMS solution for small businesses that would allow the user to edit images and text on a page, any recommendations? I've spent today figuring out Farcry and it seems to be a little more complex of a solution than I need. Or maybe there is an easy way to apply Farry to a CF site that is already built and I am missing it? I also tried out activsoftware's ActiveEdit but I wasn't impressed. Thanks in advance. -Paul ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265899 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Question on CFC's
You can do that with a single table. [categories] categoryID int primary key CategoryName varchar parentCat int default (0) If parentCat is 0, then it is a parent Category, if it has a value, then it is a subCategory of the specified parent. Then your query would be for example cfquery name=categories SELECT categoryID, CategoryName, parentCat FROM categories Order by parentCat /cfquery Then to display it you just do a nested loop to get all subcategories for each parent category. This will only work if you have nested 1 level. Otherwise your better off to write a UDF or custom tag to output the list and then you can infinitely nest by calling itself. cfoutput ul cfloop query=categories cfset currentCat = categoryID cfif parentCat EQ 0 li#CategoryName# cfloop query=categories cfif parentCat EQ currentCat li#CategoryName#/li /cfif /cfloop /li /cfif /ul /cfoutput -- Russ -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 January 2007 00:36 To: CF-Talk Subject: Question on CFC's I am not overly familiar with CFC's and need a little help with something. I have two tables that hold categories and sub categories. [categories] categoryID categoryName [sub_categories] SCategoryID categoryID SCategoryName I have a query pulling the main categories, and now I need to pull all the sub categories that are related to the main ones. What I would like to do is have a page like so dispursed into 3 or 4 seperate colums MainCategory sub,sub,sub,sub, sub,sub,sub,sub Here is where I am getting my main cats CFFUNCTION name=InitGetAllMCats access=public returntype=query output=no hint=Get All Main Categories CFSET var GetAllMCats = CFQUERY name=GetAllMCats datasource=#APPLICATION.DB# username=#APPLICATION.UN# password=#APPLICATION.PW# SELECT CategoryID,CategoryName,CategoryImage,CatStatus,pricePerAd FROM #APPLICATION.DBPRE#Categories ORDER BY CatPos ASC /CFQUERY CFRETURN GetAllMCats /CFFUNCTION Doug B. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265903 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Modifying an existing PDF
Also, the latest version of PDF now uses XML schemas, so I believe you can now use this to insert dynamic data and text too. -Original Message- From: Richard Kroll [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 January 2007 18:24 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Modifying an existing PDF Is it possible, using the built in features of CF, to modify and add information on top of an existing pdf file? What do you mean by modify and add information? Are you referring to filling in PDF Forms? Adding additional pages to the end of an existing page? Modifying existing text inside an existing PDF? The reason I ask is that I've done some work in this area. We had a requirement to populate pre-existing PDF's with dynamic data, and a later requirement to dynamically add additional pages to the end of these pre-configured PDF documents and insert user defined text. The solution I found (which can be tricky depending on your java knowledge) was to use the iText Java library. An older version of iText ships with CF and is what powers CFDocument from what I understand. Using the iText library you can get to virtually every part of a PDF, but some are a lot harder to manipulate than others. The link to the home of iText is http://www.lowagie.com/iText/ Depending what you are trying to do I might be able to provide some code samples of how to manipulate PDFs within CF. HTH Rich Kroll ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265659 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CFMX Runtime Server
There are already quite a number of alternatives to CFMX, some of which are FREE, and I know at least one of them pretty much does that, even allows you to deploy form a CD. Russ -Original Message- From: AJ Mercer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 January 2007 02:41 To: CF-Talk Subject: RFC: CFMX Runtime Server I have an idea for a free ColdFusion server product that would I like to put out there for discussion : A CF runtime server The runtime server is like the CF server, but with no compiler. You develop and compile your web application on a licensed product, and then package it up as a sourceless deploy. This could then be put on a server with the CF runtime product. ISPs would then be able to provide Free CF hosting and be able to compete with PHP and ASP, and Adobe would still get to sell licenses. Cheers, Andrew ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265736 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Combo Box in CF
You mean like this? http://webfx.eae.net/dhtml/combobox/combobox.htm Russ -Original Message- From: Varun Dixit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 January 2007 16:12 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Combo Box in CF Brian, Thanks for your reply. I came up with a combobox too yesterday, and its using javascript which as you said is indeed very reponsive. The was I have it set up is a text box seating on top of Select inside a DIV. Than, i got few javascript functions googling, and kinna of created a hybrid which does what I have been looking for. Its close to what you have on your page, I can send you the functions or put them here. Let me know, how would you like to have it. If you do at all. Thanks, Varun Varun, I came up with something that simulates a combo box, but I don't think it quite meets what you're looking for. It gives the user a text box control and a select control. At first, the select control contains all of the options in the list, but as the user types text in the text box, the options in the select box that don't match what's being typed are essentially removed, leaving only similar entries. If the user clicks on an option in the select box, the value of that option is copied to the text box. I've posted a page with this control up on my website at http://www. swartzfager.org/combo_box_demo.cfm. You can see all of the code involved by viewing the page source. It's JavaScript-powered but does not use Ajax, so it's very responsive. Like I said, I don't think it's quite what you're looking for, but maybe the techniques/functions involved will be of some help. --Brian ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265544 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse
What would be handy is a quick tips list of how to do all the common things in CFE that you do in homesite, rather than having to hunt around for the solution. What I really miss is the right click context menu - insert tag or insert Expression. I often cannot remember all the CF functions/tags as I don't use all of them all the time, and it was a handy way to view a list of them all and their parameters. Russ -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 January 2007 17:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse On 1/3/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from EP to Eclipse who could give me some pointers? Secondly, are there some good basic tutorials on using Eclipse? Robert Blackburn did some articles for Fusion Authority: http://fusionauthority.com/Techniques/4599-CFEclipse-CFExplained-Part-I.htm http://fusionauthority.com/Techniques/4607-CFEclipse-CFExplained-Part-II.htm Mark Drew (the man himself) has some video podcast tutorials: http://www.markdrew.co.uk/blog/index.cfm/2006/5/2/podcast_01 FWIW, i tried to get into Eclipse (and CFEclipse) after using CF Studio/HS+ for ages. I quit after about a week and went back to HS+. A lil' while later, people were still talking about Eclipse and CFE so I forced myself to go back. And it took a good few weeks of forcing myself. Now, I couldn't even imagine using another IDE. Love the plugins (using CFEclipse (obviously), Aptana plugin for CSS, and JSEclipse for JavaScript). Takes getting used to, but I think it's well worth the investment. -- Charlie Griefer ...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with a swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265545 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse
I still use homesite for quick edits for that very purpose, so I can double click a file and edit it. I also still use DWMX to deploy files via FTP cozz the right click put file is very quick and handy for that. Russ -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 January 2007 19:01 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse I agree... I honestly think that not being able to open a file in Eclipse by double clicking on it is a complete deal breaker. If I'm working on a site, I generally like to open a Windows Explorer window to the working directory and use that as a reference. -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 12:26 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse What would be handy is a quick tips list of how to do all the common things in CFE that you do in homesite, rather than having to hunt around for the solution. What I really miss is the right click context menu - insert tag or insert Expression. I often cannot remember all the CF functions/tags as I don't use all of them all the time, and it was a handy way to view a list of them all and their parameters. Russ -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 January 2007 17:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse On 1/3/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from EP to Eclipse who could give me some pointers? Secondly, are there some good basic tutorials on using Eclipse? Robert Blackburn did some articles for Fusion Authority: http://fusionauthority.com/Techniques/4599-CFEclipse-CFExplained-Part-I.htm http://fusionauthority.com/Techniques/4607-CFEclipse-CFExplained-Part-II.htm Mark Drew (the man himself) has some video podcast tutorials: http://www.markdrew.co.uk/blog/index.cfm/2006/5/2/podcast_01 FWIW, i tried to get into Eclipse (and CFEclipse) after using CF Studio/HS+ for ages. I quit after about a week and went back to HS+. A lil' while later, people were still talking about Eclipse and CFE so I forced myself to go back. And it took a good few weeks of forcing myself. Now, I couldn't even imagine using another IDE. Love the plugins (using CFEclipse (obviously), Aptana plugin for CSS, and JSEclipse for JavaScript). Takes getting used to, but I think it's well worth the investment. -- Charlie Griefer ...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with a swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265557 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse
So do u edit your CFML in Aptana as well? Is it like cfclipse, or a plugin so you can still use the cfeclipse features? -Original Message- From: Dan Skaggs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 January 2007 20:12 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse I grabbed the Aptana plug-in last week and am seriously enjoying the FTP upload features it gives. It's almost as easy as the DW upload. You still have to do a configuration for each project, but once that is done you right click on a file, hover over the Synchronize item in the menu and then click Upload (however I do wish I could turn off the confirmation message that insists on popping up when it's complete). I still use homesite for quick edits for that very purpose, so I can double click a file and edit it. I also still use DWMX to deploy files via FTP cozz the right click put file is very quick and handy for that. Russ ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265561 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse
So how would u use the FTP deployment, just setup the same project in both cfeclipse in Aptana and toggle between the 2 ? -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 January 2007 22:11 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse You can edit it just like an html file, you do not get the intellisense as far as I am aware. I use Aptana for Ajax work and sometimes JS but on the whole for the latter I use Interakts plugin for that. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Snake To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed Jan 03 21:39:05 2007 Subject: RE: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse So do u edit your CFML in Aptana as well? Is it like cfclipse, or a plugin so you can still use the cfeclipse features? -Original Message- From: Dan Skaggs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 January 2007 20:12 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse I grabbed the Aptana plug-in last week and am seriously enjoying the FTP upload features it gives. It's almost as easy as the DW upload. You still have to do a configuration for each project, but once that is done you right click on a file, hover over the Synchronize item in the menu and then click Upload (however I do wish I could turn off the confirmation message that insists on popping up when it's complete). I still use homesite for quick edits for that very purpose, so I can double click a file and edit it. I also still use DWMX to deploy files via FTP cozz the right click put file is very quick and handy for that. Russ ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265566 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Not sure what it is call. Textbox Thingy?
Here you go. http://binnyva.blogspot.com/2006/01/dynamic-form-field-generation-in.html Russ -Original Message- From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 January 2007 23:07 To: CF-Talk Subject: Not sure what it is call. Textbox Thingy? Hello all. I have a form that I am going to want the user to be able to fill out but the number of rows of text boxes is never going to be known, so I am going to want to give them an option of filling out the first row, then if they want to they can add subsequent rows. The trick is that the information in the rows filled out needs to be retained. I found some JS to do something close, but it wants you to enter in how many rows you want and then submit a button to generate these rows, but the information is not retained. Is there a CF script out there that can do this, or is there some built in function of CF that can do this? I am using CF 7. Thanks, Bruce Sorge Contractor City of Los Angeles Department of Neighborhood Empowerment ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265578 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Can cflogin help me block basic http authentication?
Yes you can, here is an example. http://www.peej.co.uk/articles/http-auth-with-html-forms.html Russ -Original Message- From: Jonathan Block [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 January 2007 23:08 To: CF-Talk Subject: Can cflogin help me block basic http authentication? If I know the username + password for an area of my site that requires basic http auth, can i use a cf tag to preset the authentication credentials that the browser will be passing when the user logs into my site so that when they hit the locked pages, that they never see the prompt? Jon ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265579 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: HostMySite Followup
If your concerned about the security of the files and other people downloading them, why not password protect the download folder, so that users need a password to get the files. I'm sure HMS must provide such a facility. We use IISPASSWORD for this. Russ -Original Message- From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 January 2007 21:56 To: CF-Talk Subject: HostMySite Followup Just wanted to drop a quick note on how things ended up with the timeout issues at HostMySite. I was finally able to get them to add an exception rule for me, after sending them the information that it *was* possible and I would be able to restrict it to just my download function. However, I still had some customers running into timeout problems. I won't go into all the details, and we're still not even sure on whose end the problem is occuring, and what exactly SeeFusion was doing. But I decided I might as well at this point just recode the darn download method so I don't have to deal with the issue any more and so that I can include that code for all my customers in a future release and not have them run into similar problems on HMS or any other hosts that sets up similar timeouts. I used the suggestion of moving the download file to a new temp directory and I appended the date to the directory name so I can easily go through the list and delete any directories more than a day old. Seems to work pretty well and while it's theoretically not as secure, it certainly is less of a drain on the ColdFusion server. Thanks to everyone for their help and suggestions, and to HostMySite for doing their best to work through this. I'm still concerned about other things hitting that SeeFusion timeout, but at least I know with enough insistence on my part that I can get them to set up an exception when needed. --- Mary Jo ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265503 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: tool generate sql insert / update statements
Dreamweaver. -Original Message- From: Dwayne Cole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 December 2006 15:00 To: CF-Talk Subject: tool generate sql insert / update statements I'm looking for a tool that would alow me select a table and then it automatically generates a series SQL statements to select, insert, update, delete records from the taable. Any suggestions. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265420 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: handling timeouts
Unless you specially want someone to be logged out, you can simply re-create the session after it expires and carry on as normal. If you do want the user to be logged out, then you could save the current form data in a cookie, or alternately save the submitted data and post it to the the login page and then return the user including the data back to where they were after they login again. -Original Message- From: Richard White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 December 2006 14:41 To: CF-Talk Subject: handling timeouts hi, i am just configuring my system to handle timeouts for the first time. i was just wondering if i could get some opinions on the best way to do this, or how most of the experts do it. specifically, i was wondering how to deal with data that needs to be saved. my system has some features that require the user to think about their input, maybe for some time so i was thinking that i should set the timeout to about an hour. but if they extend this time is there a way to automatically save the data they have not saved before it logs them out. do i put the save code in the timeout code in the application .cfc? i would appreciate any general opinions or advice regarding handling timeouts just so i can get a grasp on how you guys handle it. thanks very much for any help ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265427 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CFID and CFToken
Checkout UrlSessionFormat() Russ -Original Message- From: Cutter (CFRelated) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 December 2006 18:00 To: CF-Talk Subject: CFID and CFToken Does anyone know of a way to programmatically add the CFID and CFToken variables to every link within a rendered page (if needed)? Links, form actions, etc., via some regex or something. Cutter ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265321 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CFID and CFToken
Because no everyone has cookies enabled. -Original Message- From: Christopher Jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 December 2006 18:23 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFID and CFToken I'm not sure why you'd want to do that, (and there may be security risks in doing so), but the CFID and CFToken are typically stored in the cookie scope. You could get them from there to add them to all your links. Cheers, Chris Cutter (CFRelated) wrote: Does anyone know of a way to programmatically add the CFID and CFToken variables to every link within a rendered page (if needed)? Links, form actions, etc., via some regex or something. Cutter ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265370 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: HostMySite Issue
We also apply max timeouts with fusionreactor that causes similar problems, but if a client has a page that needs to run longer, we ad dit to the exclusion list. Perhaps u can ask HMS to do the same. Russ -Original Message- From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 December 2006 17:13 To: CF-Talk Subject: HostMySite Issue I recently moved my site to HostMySite and am now having major problems as a result. Here's the issue: I use a cfcontent tag to send downloaded software down to the client, as is commonly done so the file can be kept in a secure location. The file is around 10 megs so can take anywhere from 10-15 seconds to a minute or two to download. The problem is that HMS is using SeeFusion and has recently set it to end any threads running more than 50 seconds. This is a major problem because it overrides normal ColdFusion behavior that allows tags like cfcontent and cfftp to run to completion. And it even overrides use of a cfsetting tag for pages you expect to take awhile to run so I have no way to override this. So now my customers go to download the software and for many, it keeps timing out on them, and the customer tries again and again until they run out of download attemptsand then of course I get an annoyed email and have to deal with sending them the file another way. HostMySite's suggestion? Use ASPUpload instead! They say they have no problem with the setting causing problems for some people if it keeps the servers running better for everyone else. So this post is for two reasons...to warn anyone that might be considering using HMS shared hosting that they better not ever need a ColdFusion page to run more than 50 seconds. And to see if anyone knows of a way to get the cfcontent to complete faster. Is there any way to get the thread to run to completion without it having to wait for the client to receive the entire file? Any other options I could look at that will integrate into ColdFusion? I hope that when the improved server monitoring with Scorpio comes out that will allow for better handling of things like this. I totally appreciate the need to kill hanging threads and keep the server up and running. But I totally disagree with being able to override normal use of ColdFusion like this. --- Mary Jo ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265371 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: HostMySite Issue
While I understand their need ot do this (we do it too), 50 seconds is just too low. Russ -Original Message- From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 December 2006 22:13 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: HostMySite Issue We also apply max timeouts with fusionreactor that causes similar problems, but if a client has a page that needs to run longer, we ad dit to the exclusion list. Perhaps u can ask HMS to do the same. I'm trying! But as others in the thread have mentioned, this seems to be their policy on shared servers, no exceptions or exclusions. Oh, just thought of another instance where my customers will be effected by this...those that use verity searching on their stores, the indexing often will take a couple minutes to run if they have a lot of pages and products. So this will kill that process as well. --- Mary Jo ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265373 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: CFC vs Customtag performance.
Dan, The reason for the decrease in performance is when CF must instantiate the CFC each time, I.E. when using cfinvoke or createobject. The solution is to cache the CFC by storing it in a persistant scope such as application scope, so it only needs to be instantiated once. One solution is to use an object factory like this http://www.nictunney.com/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=6DACBE6F-65B8-F252-76EC1 06E89049009 - Russ Michaels -Original Message- From: Dan Singerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 December 2006 13:47 To: CF-Talk Subject: CFC vs Customtag performance. I was lead to believe that CFC performance (apart from instantiation) should beat custom tag performance, partly due to posts like this: http://www.numtopia.com/terry/blog/archives/2006/05/empirical_testing_of_cus tom_tag_vs_cfc_for_output.cfm However my own experiments tell me otherwise. See: http://musttryharder.wordpress.com/2006/12/28/coldfusion-mx-performance/ What's going on there, and who's right? ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265192 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CFC vs Customtag performance.
You are getting your TickCount value prior to instantiating the CFC and also including the init method in the caluclation. cfset reset() cfset stringAppendCFC = createObject(component,string_append).init() If you want to get a representation of time to call an already instantiated CFC, then you should move your cfset reset() after the createobject. - Russ -Original Message- From: Dan Singerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 December 2006 14:05 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFC vs Customtag performance. Hi Russ, If you look at the code what you say is valid for the case of the uninstantiated CFC (i.e. where createObject is called within the loop) However, in the instantiated CFC case, where createObject is only called once, and hence will be in memory for that request (to that file anyway) I don't think that applies. Please correct me if I am wrong Cheers, Dan Dan, The reason for the decrease in performance is when CF must instantiate the CFC each time, I.E. when using cfinvoke or createobject. The solution is to cache the CFC by storing it in a persistant scope such as application scope, so it only needs to be instantiated once. One solution is to use an object factory like this http://www.nictunney.com/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=6DACBE6F-65B8-F252- 76EC1 06E89049009 - Russ Michaels -Original Message- From: Dan Singerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 December 2006 13:47 To: CF-Talk Subject: CFC vs Customtag performance. I was lead to believe that CFC performance (apart from instantiation) should beat custom tag performance, partly due to posts like this: http://www.numtopia.com/terry/blog/archives/2006/05/empirical_testing_o f_cus tom_tag_vs_cfc_for_output.cfm However my own experiments tell me otherwise. See: http://musttryharder.wordpress.com/2006/12/28/coldfusion-mx-performance / What's going on there, and who's right? ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265197 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: how do I reunite 2 separate requests
This is a pretty standard callback method, most systems will use it. When you sent the request, you should have the option of sending a custom value, such as your own generated transaction or invoiceID. If not then you could always send the CFID and CFTOKEN. This is what you need to use on the callback page to process the returned data and validate the transaction. So if your orginal request page needs to wait for approval and then do something, you could simply check the database for the data saved by your callback page and then you will know if it failed or was successful. Russ -Original Message- From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 December 2006 15:45 To: CF-Talk Subject: how do I reunite 2 separate requests Need a bit help - my poor ol' brain is struggling with how best to impelment this... I am just starting to integrate this payment service provider into our system to handle credit card payments for our customers in the Asia Pacific region. I already use a PSP here in the UK and I have a cfc which nicely implements the process - I feed in credit card, expiry date, amount currency etc etc and after an cfhttp call the cfhttp.filecontent contains the response as an XML packet... nice. For paydollar the implementation is slight different - I still do an cfhttp call but then I have to declare a URL to 'receive the results in realtime' and in addition declare 3 separate pages to display in case of error, decline or success. So paydollar in effect spawn a separate request to pass me the results and all I get back in the cfhttp.filecontent is one of the three pages I nominated. So I know broadly if it has been authorised, declined or some error - but the details are in another request! Any ideas on the best way to tie the requests together again? Can the results page know about the correct CF session scope? The nominated 'results URL' is not dynamic with each request by the way - just declared to them once. When it is run however it has access to the transactio details in the form scope. I really want to abstract the whole credit card payment so that it will pass to the appropriate PSP behind the scenes and pass back a standard response and codes. confused of UK -- Mike T Blog http://www.socialpoints.com/ ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265200 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CFC vs Customtag performance.
The instantiation of a CFC does in fact add execution time, so it will be having an impact on his reults. If instantiating a CFC took no time at all, then there would be no reason to cache them in a persistent scope. There may of course be other factors involved too. Russ -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 December 2006 14:56 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFC vs Customtag performance. Snake wrote: You are getting your TickCount value prior to instantiating the CFC and also including the init method in the caluclation. cfset reset() cfset stringAppendCFC = createObject(component,string_append).init() If you want to get a representation of time to call an already instantiated CFC, then you should move your cfset reset() after the createobject. That is not his problem. I bet I know where his problem is but since he is disinclined to share his code and configuration to debug it I am disinclined to share the solution. If you post incomplete questions, you get incomplete answers. Jochem ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265202 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: how do I reunite 2 separate requests
Well there is a potential problem with that method. What if the users browser crashes, they close the browser, their internet connection drops, the page times out etc. Then the data will never be returned. Thus why having a separate callback that happens behind the scenes is useful. Russ -Original Message- From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 December 2006 16:30 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: how do I reunite 2 separate requests Thanks Russ, Yes I guess getting the callback page to write to the database, and then the original request read and wait for that database value is a way to solve this. And yes we do pass a unique transaction reference to identify the value - its just a bit clunky compared to it all being in one request which is how our other PSP, 'datacash' (who I highly recommend BTW) handle things. On 12/28/06, Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a pretty standard callback method, most systems will use it. When you sent the request, you should have the option of sending a custom value, such as your own generated transaction or invoiceID. If not then you could always send the CFID and CFTOKEN. This is what you need to use on the callback page to process the returned data and validate the transaction. So if your orginal request page needs to wait for approval and then do something, you could simply check the database for the data saved by your callback page and then you will know if it failed or was successful. Russ -Original Message- From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 December 2006 15:45 To: CF-Talk Subject: how do I reunite 2 separate requests Need a bit help - my poor ol' brain is struggling with how best to impelment this... I am just starting to integrate this payment service provider into our system to handle credit card payments for our customers in the Asia Pacific region. I already use a PSP here in the UK and I have a cfc which nicely implements the process - I feed in credit card, expiry date, amount currency etc etc and after an cfhttp call the cfhttp.filecontent contains the response as an XML packet... nice. For paydollar the implementation is slight different - I still do an cfhttp call but then I have to declare a URL to 'receive the results in realtime' and in addition declare 3 separate pages to display in case of error, decline or success. So paydollar in effect spawn a separate request to pass me the results and all I get back in the cfhttp.filecontent is one of the three pages I nominated. So I know broadly if it has been authorised, declined or some error - but the details are in another request! Any ideas on the best way to tie the requests together again? Can the results page know about the correct CF session scope? The nominated 'results URL' is not dynamic with each request by the way - just declared to them once. When it is run however it has access to the transactio details in the form scope. I really want to abstract the whole credit card payment so that it will pass to the appropriate PSP behind the scenes and pass back a standard response and codes. confused of UK -- Mike T Blog http://www.socialpoints.com/ ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265210 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: random cfc
That brings back some memories. I actually wrote a banner system once, and I believe the method I used back then, was to query all the primary keys, then pick a random row from the query, extract the primary key and selectthat record. This was many years ago back in the days of CF4 though :-) Russ -Original Message- From: Dan Vega [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 December 2006 22:17 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: random cfc Christopher, Please remember that I am asking these same questions so there is no such thing as ignorance just different perspectives. With that being said I would read the two posts because even if you do not need the random cfc they are very good articles. Here is a situation where you would need a random row. You could use it in a banner ad program where you just want to display a random ad, or a shopping cart where you want to show a random product from the products table. Maybe you would even like to customize it for our shopping cart application. Lets say we have a featured flag in our products table, you could add to that and featured = 1 Now on our home page instead of writing a featuredProduct rotator component we can just grab a random row. These are just ideas but who knows, maybe someone else can make use of it. I needed it for a specific reason that I am not at liberty to share. Feedback is always welcome so thank you for your thoughts Christopher! Dan Vega On 12/28/06, Christopher Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay. I'm gonna show some ignorance here. Ready? Good. :oP I read your blog entry, Dan, and the entire CFC. I did not read either of the other two blog articles you mentioned (so maybe that's where this ignorance is coming from). I understand how your code works. That's not my problem. uh... what's the point? Why would you want to get a random row from a table? Okay, to be fare, I just thought of one reason. So maybe there are more. Are there folks out there clamoring for the ability to get a random rows, random directories and random colors? Random strings and numbers I see more use for, but there are already plenty of UDFs written that can obtain a random string of characters (numbers included). I guess I just don't understand. There must be a reason I'm missing. Help me. :o) Cheers, Chris Dan Vega wrote: All, I just created a quick and dirty random cfc component and a quick posting to go with it. I could really use some feedback on how to split it up if anyone gets a chance. http://www.danvega.org/blog/index.cfm/2006/12/28/Random-CFC -- http://www.cjordan.info ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265264 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Access denied
On one of our CFMx7 enterprise servers, we have in the last 6 months or so started getting access denied Coldfusion errors. This is caused by the fact that we use sandboxing, and if the client enables session variables in their application.cfm, then the entire site is denied access to itself. The solution is to create a sandbox for the site, and the problem goes away. But I am at a loss as to why a sandbox is required just to use session variables. This never used to be the case on any other server or on this one, and a sandbox was only required to use disabled tags. Can anyone shed any light on this ? It is rather anoying having to create a sandbox for every site that doesn't really need one. Russ ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265186 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: How to determine if zipfile has been fully uploaded by FTP?
The file will not exist in the destination folder until it has fully uploaded as CF moves the file from the TEMP folder to the destination. So in that case you only need to use fileExists(). I presume your dealing with the files via another process, otherwise you wouldn't need to test if the file has uploade dyet, as you would simply process it after the cffile upload completes. Youc ould always store the filenames into the database afte rthe upload completes, and have your other process check the database for new files. Russ -Original Message- From: David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 December 2006 02:19 To: CF-Talk Subject: How to determine if zipfile has been fully uploaded by FTP? Hi all, I have a question about testing a zipfile in CF. We currently have a client's application that lets them use CFFile via a form to upload a zip file to process, then unzips and imports etc, one file at a time. We now want to allow user to FTP (or other ways) as many zipfiles as they want, and CF will check which are fully uploaded, and process them. It's CF7 Standard, so directory watcher gateway isn't an option. FTP uploads using the same name (no temp name while it's on the way), so we need to tell if it's complete. (BTW, does the directorywatcher gateway fire only on complete files?) My thinking is to test the zipfile; if any errors, not fully uploaded so ignore. Would this throw an error in the FTP upload, or should that be safe? One way is to use CFX_Zip's Test action. Short of that, is there a way using java.util.zip (maybe starting with Massimo Foti's tmt_zip.cfc) to test the zipfile? Found code to enumerate the entries (shouldn't be more than 2 in this case), but how to test each included file without trying to extract? Thanks, - David ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265187 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: CF Gets Slammed at Christmas Breakfast
Hey she started it, it would only have been fair :-) -Original Message- From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 December 2006 13:21 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Gets Slammed at Christmas Breakfast LOL, I would have just laughed and laughed at her and said only people who don't understand it don't like it, so I guess its you that sucks, at programming. LOL! Even at Christmas breakfast??? Sheeesh! I do think I remember telling her, you don't know what the hell you're talkin about! It's like a blur, like a car accident or somethin. My adrenaline kicked in when she opened her mouth. :) Will ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265003 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Image display question?
If you load them all into a JS array then they will all have to load with
the page, with rather defeats the purpose of having a thumbnail.
Just have the palce holder with a blank 1px image and then reload it when
clicking on the thumb
E.g.
img name=placeholder id=placeholder src=blank.gif
img src=thumb.gif onclick=document.getElementById('placeholder').src =
'newimage.gif'
russ
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Sent: 24 December 2006 14:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Image display question?
I have a page that I am working on, and am using imageCR3 for resizing and
displaying the thumbnail images, but what I would like to do, is not have to
load another page to show the larger version of the thumbnail images. I
would like a placeholder for the larger image and then the thumbnails below
where they can be clicked on and load the larger images into the
placeholder. I would imagine I would need to place all the larger images in
an array to do this, and do not have much experience with arrays. Can anyone
give me a little guidance in this?
Doug B.
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RE: web servers - apache or IIS
Unless you have any very specific reason to use Apache, as in a feature that IIS does not support, then there is no reason not to use IIS if your running on windows, it will do everything you need. The most common reason people always had to use Apache was mod_rewrite, but this now exists for IIS in the form of IISREWRITE among others. Russ -Original Message- From: Richard White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 December 2006 09:10 To: CF-Talk Subject: web servers - apache or IIS hi, i am about to deploy my first coldfusion application within my clients site but have been asked the question in regard to the best web server. I havent really done alot of research on web servers, am doing some now but would be extremely grateful of some expert advice. I know my client would prefer to use an IIS web server, in order for it to sit on a windows server platform. Do most people use IIS with Coldfusion? can anybody tell me if this is adequate or whether i should really be pushing for a different environment? I asked a question on here a long time ago in regard to web servers and was told that apache may be the best one to use. This question is more in regard to whether IIS is good enough or whether i need to consider other factors. Pardon my ignorance but I dont really know the difference between any of the web servers. thanks very much for any advice merry xmas to all and a very prosperous new year :) ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264955 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: web servers - apache or IIS
Only if you leave your server wide open, don't have a hav a firewall and never patch it. -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 December 2006 13:09 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: web servers - apache or IIS Is there not alot more security concern for IIS as compared to Apache? I have always heard this, so have always ran Apache on my windows server. Things may have changed in IIS with the release of windows 2003 server. Doug B. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264958 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Thumbnail gallery custom tag?
There are loads of tags that will resize images and create thumbnails, look at Ricks ImageCFC There are also things like cfx_image, cfx_jpegresize etc Russ -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 December 2006 13:07 To: CF-Talk Subject: Thumbnail gallery custom tag? I was wondering if someone has or knows of a good thumbnail gallery custom tag. What I want to do is have users upload there images and then in the display I would like to have a larger image with thumbnails below that they can click on to show them a larger version of the thumbnail. Doug B. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264703 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Web services being called by non cf source
Ah ok. Well I'll try that. We have found the cause of the problem, but why is still a mystery. It seems that a new cfm file was deployed, which connects to an external non cf web service to collect some data. Whenever this file is executed it somehow screws up OUR web service, but only when the toolbar calls it, we can still call our web service via a CF page just fine. I have no idea how or why as the two things are totally separate files, do not even access the same tables in the database, so how one can affect the other I do not know, very odd Russ -Original Message- From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 December 2006 01:31 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Web services being called by non cf source Actually that is not true, if the webservice is coldfusion then you can debug the request:-) Have done it already myself. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 20 December 2006 12:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Web services being called by non cf source Alas fusion debug wont help me here as it is a VB application. The web service is returning nothing to the app, no response at all. Neithe rthe VB app or the web service has been changed, which is the odd thing, yet the problem occurs on both dev and live servers. Russ ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264549 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Web services being called by non cf source
Well I consider this, but it is only the toolbar that is getitng no response from the cfc. I fI call the cfc via a cfm test page, it works fine. So the only difference here is whether it is being called via CFM or via the tooobar (VB) -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 December 2006 15:44 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Web services being called by non cf source so how one can affect the other I do not know, very odd Just some random thoughts. Can one be using up some resource when it is running; bandwidth, cpu, threads, something. So that the toobar is not waiting and timing out, while the cf version is more patient and waits for the resource to become available and returns the desired result. -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA - | 1 | | - Binary Soduko | | | - C code. C code run. Run code run. Please! - Cynthia Dunning Confidentiality Notice: This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264606 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Web services being called by non cf source
No, otherwise the toolbar would never work. There is no way a cfm page on a server can access the clients firewall setitngs. I think you don't quite understand the scenario. We have mywebservice.cfc, which is called by the toolbar, all workds fine. This toolbar is used by hundreds of different people on different pc's in different locations. We then have callremoteservice.cfm, this page has nothing to do with the above one. IT invokes another webservice on another site that is nothing to do with us. When callremoteservice.cfm is run, it somehow breaks mywebservice.cfc and the toolbar can no longer get a response from it. I have been using a http packet sniffer to watch what happens, and the result is this. The toolbar will be calling mywebservice.cfc After callremoteservice.cfm is executed The sniffer then shows that the url being called by the toolbar changes to mywebservice.cfc?wsdl, and thus the response it gets back is the WSDL schema, and the cfc never executes. The toolbar itself doesn't change the url, as it would have no knowledge of callremoteservice.cfm and if it has been executed. So I'm wondering if CF is somehow redirecting or something? Russ -Original Message- From: Jim Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 December 2006 12:17 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Web services being called by non cf source Snake wrote: Yet calling the same web service in the same way via a CFM page causes no problems, even when the toolbar cannot get any response, the cfm page gets a response from the web service just fine. Is it possible that you have a software firewall that is blocking calls from that app? ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264605 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Web services being called by non cf source
Having been monitoring the http traffic more, I have noticed this. The toolbar normally does a POST to mycfc.cfc As soon as we run the CFM file that calls the other web service, the toolbar then mysteriously starts doing a GET to mycfc.cfc?wsdl, thus why it is failing. I have no idea how this could happen. There is no prior communication to this happening, no data sent back that could force the toolbar to use GET instead of POST, i.e. no redirection header or anything. Very weird -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 December 2006 16:41 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Web services being called by non cf source So the only difference here is whether it is being called via CFM or via the tooobar (VB) That's why I was suggesting, probably a long shot, that the VB code maybe very impatient. That it is not waiting long enough for a delayed response where as the CFM page is more patient and waits. -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA - | 1 | | - Binary Soduko | | | - C code. C code run. Run code run. Please! - Cynthia Dunning Confidentiality Notice: This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264635 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Web services being called by non cf source
Dave, OK I missed the fact that it did an initial GET, this wasn't showing in my packet sniffer, but I can now see it. The endpoint does resolve successfully, you can browse the cfc?wsdl via the browser. I have now noticed the following. The first time round, the response to the GET has the following data types in the response. wsdl:message name=getLoginRequest wsdl:part name=GUID type=xsd:string/ wsdl:part name=UserName type=xsd:string/ wsdl:part name=Password type=xsd:string/ /wsdl:message After we run our VRN page that contacts the other remote web service, the toolbar then starts doing GETS again (not sure why), but stops posting. But I noticed that CF has now changed the data types it sends back in the response, which I presume is the problem. wsdl:message name=getLoginRequest wsdl:part name=GUID type=soapenc:string/ wsdl:part name=UserName type=soapenc:string/ wsdl:part name=Password type=soapenc:string/ /wsdl:message Does this shed any light on the situation. Russ -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 December 2006 19:41 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Web services being called by non cf source Having been monitoring the http traffic more, I have noticed this. The toolbar normally does a POST to mycfc.cfc As soon as we run the CFM file that calls the other web service, the toolbar then mysteriously starts doing a GET to mycfc.cfc?wsdl, thus why it is failing. I have no idea how this could happen. There is no prior communication to this happening, no data sent back that could force the toolbar to use GET instead of POST, i.e. no redirection header or anything. I'm a bit confused. Normally, if you publish a SOAP web service, the URL given to the client is that of the WSDL file, so your toolbar appears to be doing the right thing. The client GETs the WSDL, and learns the details of your service from it. It can't POST to the actual service endpoint without this information. So, these questions come to mind: Why were you expecting something different? Is the client able to retrieve the WSDL successfully? Can you resolve the endpoint URL successfully from one of the clients in question? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264671 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Web services being called by non cf source
Solved it. It is some screwed up problem with the encoding that AXIS does. For whatever reason the encoding method is changed from XSD to SOAPENC after calling an external web service. Upgrading to 7.0.2 resolves this, presumably due to an updated AXIS driver. Russ -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 December 2006 23:31 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Web services being called by non cf source Dave, OK I missed the fact that it did an initial GET, this wasn't showing in my packet sniffer, but I can now see it. The endpoint does resolve successfully, you can browse the cfc?wsdl via the browser. I have now noticed the following. The first time round, the response to the GET has the following data types in the response. wsdl:message name=getLoginRequest wsdl:part name=GUID type=xsd:string/ wsdl:part name=UserName type=xsd:string/ wsdl:part name=Password type=xsd:string/ /wsdl:message After we run our VRN page that contacts the other remote web service, the toolbar then starts doing GETS again (not sure why), but stops posting. But I noticed that CF has now changed the data types it sends back in the response, which I presume is the problem. wsdl:message name=getLoginRequest wsdl:part name=GUID type=soapenc:string/ wsdl:part name=UserName type=soapenc:string/ wsdl:part name=Password type=soapenc:string/ /wsdl:message Does this shed any light on the situation. Russ -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 December 2006 19:41 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Web services being called by non cf source Having been monitoring the http traffic more, I have noticed this. The toolbar normally does a POST to mycfc.cfc As soon as we run the CFM file that calls the other web service, the toolbar then mysteriously starts doing a GET to mycfc.cfc?wsdl, thus why it is failing. I have no idea how this could happen. There is no prior communication to this happening, no data sent back that could force the toolbar to use GET instead of POST, i.e. no redirection header or anything. I'm a bit confused. Normally, if you publish a SOAP web service, the URL given to the client is that of the WSDL file, so your toolbar appears to be doing the right thing. The client GETs the WSDL, and learns the details of your service from it. It can't POST to the actual service endpoint without this information. So, these questions come to mind: Why were you expecting something different? Is the client able to retrieve the WSDL successfully? Can you resolve the endpoint URL successfully from one of the clients in question? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264676 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Web services being called by non cf source
I guess I missed that, easy to do on this list :-) -Original Message- From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 December 2006 00:56 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Web services being called by non cf source Seems strange that I told you to update to 7.02 if you hadn't in my first post to that there where some bug fixes with webservices:-) Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 21 December 2006 11:02 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Web services being called by non cf source Solved it. It is some screwed up problem with the encoding that AXIS does. For whatever reason the encoding method is changed from XSD to SOAPENC after calling an external web service. Upgrading to 7.0.2 resolves this, presumably due to an updated AXIS driver. Russ -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 December 2006 23:31 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Web services being called by non cf source Dave, OK I missed the fact that it did an initial GET, this wasn't showing in my packet sniffer, but I can now see it. The endpoint does resolve successfully, you can browse the cfc?wsdl via the browser. I have now noticed the following. The first time round, the response to the GET has the following data types in the response. wsdl:message name=getLoginRequest wsdl:part name=GUID type=xsd:string/ wsdl:part name=UserName type=xsd:string/ wsdl:part name=Password type=xsd:string/ /wsdl:message After we run our VRN page that contacts the other remote web service, the toolbar then starts doing GETS again (not sure why), but stops posting. But I noticed that CF has now changed the data types it sends back in the response, which I presume is the problem. wsdl:message name=getLoginRequest wsdl:part name=GUID type=soapenc:string/ wsdl:part name=UserName type=soapenc:string/ wsdl:part name=Password type=soapenc:string/ /wsdl:message Does this shed any light on the situation. Russ -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 December 2006 19:41 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Web services being called by non cf source Having been monitoring the http traffic more, I have noticed this. The toolbar normally does a POST to mycfc.cfc As soon as we run the CFM file that calls the other web service, the toolbar then mysteriously starts doing a GET to mycfc.cfc?wsdl, thus why it is failing. I have no idea how this could happen. There is no prior communication to this happening, no data sent back that could force the toolbar to use GET instead of POST, i.e. no redirection header or anything. I'm a bit confused. Normally, if you publish a SOAP web service, the URL given to the client is that of the WSDL file, so your toolbar appears to be doing the right thing. The client GETs the WSDL, and learns the details of your service from it. It can't POST to the actual service endpoint without this information. So, these questions come to mind: Why were you expecting something different? Is the client able to retrieve the WSDL successfully? Can you resolve the endpoint URL successfully from one of the clients in question? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264680 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: CF 7.02 won't install ond Windows Server Enterprise 2003, Service Pack
Did any part of the install fail, it would have told you when it completed if there were any errors. Check the install log. Is the service running. -Original Message- From: Tom Hines [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 December 2006 05:18 To: CF-Talk Subject: CF 7.02 won't install ond Windows Server Enterprise 2003, Service Pack CF 7.02 won't install on Windows Server Enterprise 2003, Service Pack 1, IIS 6.0. When I run the Administrator the message indicates that MX has been installed but when I open the page with the web browser the message is Service Unavailable. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264436 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Application.cfc vs cfm
While on this subject. Considering CFC's are slower to instantiate compared to regular .cfm files, how does this affect application.cfm, has anyone tested? Is it slower than using application.cfm and onrequestend.cfm Russ -Original Message- From: Gert Franz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 December 2006 15:11 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Application.cfc vs cfm Hi Ray, in Railo 1.1 you can configure this setting. In the Railo administrator you will be able to set the Application Listeners as follows: Type: none - No Application.cfm and Application.cfc will be included classic - First look for Application.cfm and after the request for OnRequestEnd.cfm (like CF7) modern - Look only for Application.cfc mixed - Looks for Application.cfc and if not existing for Application.cfm/OnRequestEnf.cfm (Like = CF7) Mode: Current: Look only in the current directory for one of the files above Root: Look only in the root directory for one of the files above Curr2Root: Like CF So you can configure Railo in the way you like... Greetings / Grüsse Gert Franz Customer Care Railo Technologies GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.railo.ch Join our Mailing List / Treten Sie unserer Mailingliste bei: deutsch: http://de.groups.yahoo.com/group/railo/ english: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/railo_talk/ Ray Champagne schrieb: Say I have the following directory/file structure: /root - Application.cfc - Index.cfm /subdirectory o Application.cfm o index.cfm My question is, since there is an Application.cfc in the parent directory, will the Application.cfm file be processed when calling /root/subdirectory/index.cfm, or will the Application.cfc be read? I know when a .cfm and a .cfc reside in the same directory, the .cfc is used, but I'm not sure about the above situation. Thanks, Ray ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:26 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Application.cfc vs cfm
Should read how does this affect application.cfc -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 December 2006 15:48 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Application.cfc vs cfm While on this subject. Considering CFC's are slower to instantiate compared to regular .cfm files, how does this affect application.cfm, has anyone tested? Is it slower than using application.cfm and onrequestend.cfm Russ -Original Message- From: Gert Franz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 December 2006 15:11 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Application.cfc vs cfm Hi Ray, in Railo 1.1 you can configure this setting. In the Railo administrator you will be able to set the Application Listeners as follows: Type: none - No Application.cfm and Application.cfc will be included classic - First look for Application.cfm and after the request for OnRequestEnd.cfm (like CF7) modern - Look only for Application.cfc mixed - Looks for Application.cfc and if not existing for Application.cfm/OnRequestEnf.cfm (Like = CF7) Mode: Current: Look only in the current directory for one of the files above Root: Look only in the root directory for one of the files above Curr2Root: Like CF So you can configure Railo in the way you like... Greetings / Grüsse Gert Franz Customer Care Railo Technologies GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.railo.ch Join our Mailing List / Treten Sie unserer Mailingliste bei: deutsch: http://de.groups.yahoo.com/group/railo/ english: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/railo_talk/ Ray Champagne schrieb: Say I have the following directory/file structure: /root - Application.cfc - Index.cfm /subdirectory o Application.cfm o index.cfm My question is, since there is an Application.cfc in the parent directory, will the Application.cfm file be processed when calling /root/subdirectory/index.cfm, or will the Application.cfc be read? I know when a .cfm and a .cfc reside in the same directory, the .cfc is used, but I'm not sure about the above situation. Thanks, Ray ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264446 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Application.cfc vs cfm
Well I have noticed that the time to instantiate a CFC, using cfinvoke or createobject is slower than using a customtag, a clinclude or a UDF. And the only way to avoid this is to cache the cfc in a persistent scope, such as application. When I first tried out the Model-Glue framework I found the speed to be dire, the pages took seconds to load, compared to milliseconds for the same site not done using CFC's Russ -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 December 2006 17:09 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Application.cfc vs cfm While on this subject. Considering CFC's are slower to instantiate compared to regular .cfm files, how does this affect application.cfm, has anyone tested? Is it slower than using application.cfm and onrequestend.cfm I haven't bothered doing any testing. However, I haven't seen any evidence that CFCs are inherently slower than CFM files. I don't see any reason why they would be, either, once compiled. I can see why they might take longer to compile, since every method is compiled into a separate class, but this shouldn't be an issue in a busy production environment. It is slower to invoke a CFC from within a CFM file than not to. It appears, in my limited testing, to be slower to use any formal code reuse mechanism (CFC invocation, CFML custom tags) than to run code inline or to use a CFINCLUDE. Finally, even if there were a cost to doing this, you should only have to pay it once, when Application.cfc is compiled. So, in summary, I wouldn't avoid Application.cfc because of performance concerns. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264482 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Insert an image in a generated MS word
You would need to parse the binary file and extract the image data. If your trying to do this for CMS purposes, there is an editor caleld Xstandard that doe sthis as default. Russ -Original Message- From: ibs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 December 2006 23:27 To: CF-Talk Subject: Insert an image in a generated MS word I am trying to insert an image in a generated MS word file. I am using css to generate the file. Thanks, AB ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264527 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Insert an image in a generated MS word
Sorry I thought u were doing the reverse and working with a MS word file and trying to extract the image. -Original Message- From: ibs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 December 2006 23:35 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Insert an image in a generated MS word What do you mean by parsing the binary image file? I am creating the MS word file by inserting p elements. AB -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 6:32 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Insert an image in a generated MS word You would need to parse the binary file and extract the image data. If your trying to do this for CMS purposes, there is an editor caleld Xstandard that doe sthis as default. Russ -Original Message- From: ibs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 December 2006 23:27 To: CF-Talk Subject: Insert an image in a generated MS word I am trying to insert an image in a generated MS word file. I am using css to generate the file. Thanks, AB ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264529 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Web services being called by non cf source
Alas fusion debug wont help me here as it is a VB application. The web service is returning nothing to the app, no response at all. Neithe rthe VB app or the web service has been changed, which is the odd thing, yet the problem occurs on both dev and live servers. Russ -Original Message- From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 December 2006 23:48 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Web services being called by non cf source What version of CF are you running? If you are not running cfmx 7.02 I would highly suggest doing that, as there was a bug fixed in webservices in one of the hotfixes regarding case sensitivity. Now if that is all fine, I would suggest you install this toolbar and FusionDebug and place a break point in the application and step through the code and see if it is running as expected. Other than this there is also a web page out there that does tell you what you need to do when returning different types of variables, structs etc for other soap related programs. Natively CF returns a different style of xml called WDDX, so the only solution here would be to check the wsdl and see if the webservice is returning the correct style of wsdl? There might be another reason, but the stepping through the code with Fusiondebug would be the best bet, because the client might be sending information or not sending the right information or even expecting something different when being returned, which the wsdl and stepping through the code would or might pick up HTH Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264535 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: A very unusual HTTP 500 Null Error
IIS6 also has a max size of form posts as well. -Original Message- From: Josh Nathanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 December 2006 00:00 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: A very unusual HTTP 500 Null Error There seems to be some form size limitation in the latest release of CFMX that is causing this error. I suppose you've played around with the Maximum size of post data setting in CF admin to no avail? Although I think it defaults to 100MB, you'd have to have some HUGE posts to cross that threshhold. Maybe it's just not expecting unbroken strings such as the ones you posted. What is your implementation that requires such long strings in input fields? -- Josh ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264536 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Passing file from form to CFC
Mike, That only exists after you have used CFFILE to save the file to the server. Adrian is referring to the form field that holds the initial file upload, which his CFC is presumably going to do the CFFILE process for. It is actually a binary file, for which there is no argument type, so try ANY. Russ -Original Message- From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 December 2006 04:49 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Passing file from form to CFC The upload process creates a struct called File containing a whole bunch of information about the file you just uploaded, and what teh upload process did with it.file size, renamed or not, location, file type stuff like that.you can pass the whole struct in a single swoop to the CFC if you like by: cfinvoke ... cfinvokeargument name=filestruct value=#file# /cfinvoke OR alternatively you can pass the bits of the struct you need in your CFC like this: cfinvokeargument name=filename value=#file.servername# cfinvokeargument name=filesize value=#file.filesize# You can have a look at the kind of information that's in teh file struct by doing a CFDUMP as in: cfdump var=#file# label=FILE / after the upload and see what it contains. You might be surprised at how much info is in there. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On 12/18/06, Adrian Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have a form from where the client can upload files to the site. I'm a bit confused about the passing on of the form field to the component here. A regular text field I'd pass on like this: cfinvoke ... cfinvokeargument name=imageName value=form.imageN /cfinvoke And in the cfc: cffunction ... cfargument name=imageName type=string /cffunction Now, there is no type 'file' for cfargument. What am I supposed to do in that case? Or is the variable I'm refering to here just a string anyhow, which refers to a file in the form scope? Would be glad about some enlightenment here. Adrian ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264289 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Still need help!! (Login cflocation)
Save the referer, and send them back to that. Russ -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 December 2006 13:57 To: CF-Talk Subject: Still need help!! (Login cflocation) This is totally driving me nuts!! For those of you who missed my troubles, I will go over it again. I have a page in the root of my site that requires a user to login. My login page is located in a child directory and I am needing to force the user back to the page they were originally looking for prior to login. I cannot seem to be able to cflocation them from the child folder back to the root folder where that page is at. I have tried the code below, but it simply does not work, as it is sending them back to the index.cfm of the current CHILD folder instead of the ROOT folder. I have also tried setting the return url prior to login, but that simply sets the login page as the last page in the CGI.SCRIPT_NAME. Has anybody handled this problem before and may have a simple solution? CFIF IsDefined(Session.RUserName) CFIF Session.RUserName is Guest CFPARAM name=attributes.thispage default=#GetFileFromPath(GetTemplatePath())# CFPARAM name=attributes.querystring default=? CFPARAM name=attributes.variablestring default=#CGI.QUERY_STRING# CFSET thispage = attributes.thispage CFSET querystring = attributes.querystring CFSET variablestring = attributes.variablestring CFLOCATION url=index.cfm?page=loginrequested=#thispage##querystring#string=#variable string# addtoken=no /CFIF /CFIF Doug ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264296 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Still need help!! (Login cflocation)
That is because you need to grab the information before you do the cflocation not after. So get the refer or the url, store it in a session or wherever then do the cflocation. Russ -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 December 2006 14:37 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Still need help!! (Login cflocation) That is not working. What happens is the user clicks a link for a page in the root directory and if they are not logged in I cflocation them to the login page. If I use the cgi.http_referrer it sets the last requested page as the login page from the cflocation Doug - Original Message - From: Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 7:17 AM Subject: RE: Still need help!! (Login cflocation) Save the referer, and send them back to that. Russ -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 December 2006 13:57 To: CF-Talk Subject: Still need help!! (Login cflocation) This is totally driving me nuts!! For those of you who missed my troubles, I will go over it again. I have a page in the root of my site that requires a user to login. My login page is located in a child directory and I am needing to force the user back to the page they were originally looking for prior to login. I cannot seem to be able to cflocation them from the child folder back to the root folder where that page is at. I have tried the code below, but it simply does not work, as it is sending them back to the index.cfm of the current CHILD folder instead of the ROOT folder. I have also tried setting the return url prior to login, but that simply sets the login page as the last page in the CGI.SCRIPT_NAME. Has anybody handled this problem before and may have a simple solution? CFIF IsDefined(Session.RUserName) CFIF Session.RUserName is Guest CFPARAM name=attributes.thispage default=#GetFileFromPath(GetTemplatePath())# CFPARAM name=attributes.querystring default=? CFPARAM name=attributes.variablestring default=#CGI.QUERY_STRING# CFSET thispage = attributes.thispage CFSET querystring = attributes.querystring CFSET variablestring = attributes.variablestring CFLOCATION url=index.cfm?page=loginrequested=#thispage##querystring#string=#variable string# addtoken=no /CFIF /CFIF Doug ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264320 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Certification
Also in a real world environment you don't try and code from memory do you. You refer to your books and documentation and lists like this one to get a job done if you don't know how to do it. -Original Message- From: Mike Chabot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 December 2006 14:56 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Certification You seem to be viewing Brainbench certs unfavorably because you can look up answers in the manual as you take the test. The Brainbench tests are intended to be open-book and the Adobe test is intended to be closed-book. So the questions you see on a Brainbench test are much harder than the questions on the Adobe test. Many of the questions cannot be answered without looking up the answer. That is what you are being tested on. Can you look up the correct answer or solve the problem within two minutes. It is not testing how well you can memorize a study guide. I would place a higher value on a vendor cert, but I would look favorably on a Brainbench cert as well. The fact that someone took the time to get certified is an indication that they are serious about their career and are interested in professional growth. -Mike Chabot On 12/17/06, Nicholas M Tunney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the staffing portion of my company, we do not pay any attention to Brainbench certs. You can look every answer up as you take the test. Many of our clients require the developers we send out to be CF certified by Adobe. Just my 2c. Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: Not really, as the fact they are worthless (not useless) is no doubt the reason they do not take them. In the professional world whether you are ColdFusion certified or not means nada - certainly from what I have seen in the UK. I mean, isn't it mostly multiple choice still?! The Brainbench is good as well a Snake noted. Perhaps better. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Dec 16 19:40:54 2006 Subject: Re: Certification Agreed, the certs are pretty much worthless in the real world. This topic come up on a regular basis, almost once every 2 or 3 months. Ever notice that generally those who say the CFMX certification is useless are those who boast that they don't have it? just a thought. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264321 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Certification
Well I have to say that I know someone who passed the Macromedia certification using random selection. He had never done a single line of CFML in his life. Russ -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 December 2006 15:38 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Certification As for looking up the answer... As noted isn't the Adobe one multiple choice still? where the answer is right in front of you on every Q! As my old Physics teacher used to say, multiple choice is not a test.. a monkey with a stick could get a pass by stroking the page randomly... Your old physics teacher could stand to brush up on instructional design. Well-written multiple choice exams will not typically be passed by a monkey with a stick. Given that most universities do not require their instructors or professors to have any skills at teaching, I'm not surprised that he would have such an opinion. A well designed multiple choice test cannot be passed by random selection. Depending on the structure, even getting 25% using random responses would be surprising. regards, larry ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264322 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Certification
Yes you can, you can view their results online. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 December 2006 18:59 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Certification You seem to be viewing Brainbench certs unfavorably because you can look up answers in the manual as you take the test. The Brainbench tests are intended to be open-book and the Adobe test is intended to be closed-book. So the questions you see on a Brainbench test are much harder than the questions on the Adobe test. Many of the questions cannot be answered without looking up the answer. That is what you are being tested on. Can you look up the correct answer or solve the problem within two minutes. It is not testing how well you can memorize a study guide. Brainbench certifications are unproctored, so you can't even tell if the applicant actually took it, can you? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264340 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Certification
The public transcript shows the persons name, all the tests they have done, their scores, when they took the test etc. Russ -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 December 2006 19:31 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Certification Yes you can, you can view their results online. I believe Dave's point was that if you don't proctor the exam, you can tell if the person who took the test is the one applying for the position. Maybe he got his really good friend Ben Forta or somebody to take the examine for him. -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA - | 1 | | - Binary Soduko | | | - C code. C code run. Run code run. Please! - Cynthia Dunning Confidentiality Notice: This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264347 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Certification
Well that much may be true, but if someone is idiotic enough to get someone else to take the test for them, I don't think they are going to keep the job very long. Russ -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 December 2006 20:07 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Certification The public transcript shows the persons name, all the tests they have done, their scores, when they took the test etc. Russ But there is NOT a webcam recording of the individual who was actually sitting at the keyboard taking the exam under that person's login. That is the point of proctoring. To make sure the person taking the test is who they say they are, and are following in rules in place. -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA - | 1 | | - Binary Soduko | | | - C code. C code run. Run code run. Please! - Cynthia Dunning Confidentiality Notice: This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264390 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Certification
No problem Dave, I'm a married man :-) -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 December 2006 20:57 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Certification Yes you can, you can view their results online. http://www.unc.edu/depts/jomc/academics/dri/idog.html I strongly advise you to avoid online dating. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264391 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Certification
I have an online test I give candidates that has real world coding questions, like 1. write a simple web service 2. write some SQL that does an inner join between the following tables 3. what is the error in the following code And I can say that I have never once had someone who is certified get a good score. The best scores I have had were from people who were not certified, and were generally self taught and often didn't have a great deal of prior experience. Although to be fair, some employers do still put some merit on it, I do see jobs asking for it now and then. Its cheap enough to get certified, and it wont do you any harm, so you may as well do it. But don't kid yourself into thinking your chances of getting a great job with a higher salary will drastically improve having the cert or you may be disapointed. Eventually companies do figure out that it makes no difference if someone has a cert, it generally doesn't make them any better then someone who doesn't have it and doesn't help their interview process either, so I would imagine they only ask for certs the first time they are interviewing and don't know better. Russ -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 December 2006 07:38 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Certification Not really, as the fact they are worthless (not useless) is no doubt the reason they do not take them. In the professional world whether you are ColdFusion certified or not means nada - certainly from what I have seen in the UK. I mean, isn't it mostly multiple choice still?! The Brainbench is good as well a Snake noted. Perhaps better. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Dec 16 19:40:54 2006 Subject: Re: Certification Agreed, the certs are pretty much worthless in the real world. This topic come up on a regular basis, almost once every 2 or 3 months. Ever notice that generally those who say the CFMX certification is useless are those who boast that they don't have it? just a thought. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264256 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Certification
If you email me offline I'll send you a copy. Russ -Original Message- From: DURETTE, STEVEN J (ASI-AIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 December 2006 12:04 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Certification Russ, You want to share that test? We've had many times where we needed to hire a contractor and when they got here even though they interviewed well and had good cf resumes, the didn't know the even the simple things. It seems a lot of temp agencies (for lack of a better term) coach their contractors on how to bs their way in. Steve -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 6:00 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Certification I have an online test I give candidates that has real world coding questions, like 1. write a simple web service 2. write some SQL that does an inner join between the following tables 3. what is the error in the following code And I can say that I have never once had someone who is certified get a good score. The best scores I have had were from people who were not certified, and were generally self taught and often didn't have a great deal of prior experience. Although to be fair, some employers do still put some merit on it, I do see jobs asking for it now and then. Its cheap enough to get certified, and it wont do you any harm, so you may as well do it. But don't kid yourself into thinking your chances of getting a great job with a higher salary will drastically improve having the cert or you may be disapointed. Eventually companies do figure out that it makes no difference if someone has a cert, it generally doesn't make them any better then someone who doesn't have it and doesn't help their interview process either, so I would imagine they only ask for certs the first time they are interviewing and don't know better. Russ -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 December 2006 07:38 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Certification Not really, as the fact they are worthless (not useless) is no doubt the reason they do not take them. In the professional world whether you are ColdFusion certified or not means nada - certainly from what I have seen in the UK. I mean, isn't it mostly multiple choice still?! The Brainbench is good as well a Snake noted. Perhaps better. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Dec 16 19:40:54 2006 Subject: Re: Certification Agreed, the certs are pretty much worthless in the real world. This topic come up on a regular basis, almost once every 2 or 3 months. Ever notice that generally those who say the CFMX certification is useless are those who boast that they don't have it? just a thought. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264258 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: interviews (was Certification)
Interviews can be quite tricky. I generally find that employers really don't know what questions to ask to find out if a candidate knows their stuff. Usually the questions are very open ended, such as what do you think of OOP or Frameworks, rather than give me an example of OOP using CFML or tell me what makes a framework. This often stems from the fact there there is no-one else within the company with the required skills to determine if the people they are interviewing have the required skills. Which makes the interviewee look bad because he isn't given the opportunity to show how good he is. Bit of a catch-22 that one. One of the services I provide as a consultant, is that I will shortlist candidates and do the testing and interviewing for them. Generally I don't put too much stock in peoples CV's as lots of experience may not mean their good, and lack of experience may not mean their bad, and some people are just crap at writing CV's. Thus why I generally get everyone to take the online test to determine their CF/SQL/HTML/CSS skills. The interview is then to determine theie social skills, interaction, personality, how they deal with stress, problem solving etc. I will prepare an interview according to the role and job requirements, creating real scenarios and seeing how the candidate deals with them. I.E. provide them with a problem and ask them how they would deal with it. Provide them with a coding problem and ask them how they would approach it and solve it. -- Russ Michaels -Original Message- From: DURETTE, STEVEN J (ASI-AIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 December 2006 12:04 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Certification Russ, You want to share that test? We've had many times where we needed to hire a contractor and when they got here even though they interviewed well and had good cf resumes, the didn't know the even the simple things. It seems a lot of temp agencies (for lack of a better term) coach their contractors on how to bs their way in. Steve ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264260 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Login page and cflocation
Why not save the refer on the login page, and redirect to it after login. -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 December 2006 18:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: Login page and cflocation I am needing to send a user back to the page they were previously at prior to login, and I have a small problem. Below is the code I am using to send the user back, but it will not work properly. What happens is that a user views a page that is in the root directory of the site and when they hit a page that requires login, they are sent one directory down to the login. I cannot seem to be able to relocate them back to the root folder after login. Dir Structure ROOT Page that needs login DIRECTORY_1 Login_page CFIF IsDefined(Session.RUserName) CFIF Session.RUserName is Guest CFPARAM name=attributes.thispage default=#GetFileFromPath(GetTemplatePath())# CFPARAM name=attributes.querystring default=? CFPARAM name=attributes.variablestring default=#CGI.QUERY_STRING# CFSET thispage = attributes.thispage CFSET querystring = attributes.querystring CFSET variablestring = attributes.variablestring CFLOCATION url=index.cfm?page=loginrequested=#thispage##querystring#string=#variable string# addtoken=no /CFIF /CFIF Any help is appreciated!! Doug ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264265 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Certification
If you just want a cert to put on your CV to show off to employers and bolster your ego try www.brainbench.com Their CF certification is about the same, and your score will be listed/ranked as well, so you can even boast about your ranking if you like. -- Russ Michaels In the top 3 coldfusion developers in the UK according to brainbench.com :-) -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 December 2006 08:08 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Certification I think that is the point. It really doesn't mean a whole lot, and it should not be an indicator of how much you know (or do not), as Snake noted, it is not exactly a test, not like we took at Uni! I think if you took it now you would pass no worries. If I were were you, I would save your money. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Neil Middleton To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Dec 16 01:51:20 2006 Subject: Re: Certification To be honest, I am looking at certification mainly because it's a nice easy way of showing you aren't just mentioning it on your CV, but you do have at least a decent understanding of the topic. Something that people (esp contractors) my find quite useful to have. Neil On 12/15/06, Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe for some people. -Original Message- From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 December 2006 23:18 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Certification to improve your skills and knowledge perhaps? The process of preparing for the test forces you to look into all the nooks and crannies of CF. I actually think its a good thing to do when you are first learning CF or maybe have 1 or 2 years under your belt. On 12/15/06, Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip If you can't pass the test with your existing skills and knowledge, then what is the point in doing it? ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264243 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: website thumbnail
http://www.websitescreenshots.com/ You could use this via cfexecute. Russ -Original Message- From: Richard Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 December 2006 13:48 To: CF-Talk Subject: website thumbnail Is there any way of dynamically making thumbshots of websites using MX 7? ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264114 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Certification
Make sure you know how to write CFML. You could cheat like most people do and use the certification study guide. I personally don't think the certification is worth the paper it is printed on. I know several people who got Advanced ColdFusion developers certifications, when in reality they are nothing of the sort. Russ -Original Message- From: Neil Middleton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 December 2006 15:36 To: CF-Talk Subject: Certification Does anyone have any opinions on the best ways to prepare for the CFMX certification exams? -- Neil Middleton Visit feed-squirrel.com ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264141 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Coldfusion salaries - Nashville, TN
I have always been offered salaries greater than I was expecting plus all the extras and bonuses from the outset, so never really had to negotiate much. It all very much depends on what sort of impression you make on an employer. If they think you're the best thing since sliced bread, then they will do whatever they can to get you working for them. If your not very self confident then your probably gonna have to start at the bottom and fight your way up. Russ -Original Message- From: Steve Brownlee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 December 2006 16:32 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion salaries - Nashville, TN My first mother-in-law was a top-notch, nationally recognized professional coach and she taught me a few things about interviews and jobs that have served my very well over the years. 1. Companies can always afford to pay you more than they offer you. 2. Always counter-offer their proposed salary. It's expected, even if they say no. 3. If they give you the first opportunity to say what salary you are expecting, they are unwittingly giving you a position of strength. Take the number you would expect to get for this position and add $15,000 dollars. It's a fantastic place to start negotiations from. Now, these are very hard steps to take. These are skills that we are not born with and we've been indoctrinated during our entire lives to not negotiate when it comes to salaries as it might come across as greedy. Your first attempt at negoating will be very uncomfortable. Try practicing it with a family member or a friend, just to get comfortable with the conversation. The company wants to offer you as little as possible for your skills, and you should be asking for the most amount possible for your skills. More often than not, a compromise that makes both parties happy occurs. Good luck! Steve Brownlee http://www.fusioncube.net/ -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 7:17 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Coldfusion salaries - Nashville, TN Hey everyone... I've been offered a position with a company here in Nashville, TN. Everything that I've seen so far about the offer sounds great, including the pay. I just wanted to ask a a few general questions because I don't like talking about money. 1) Should I take the first offer they make? Should I counteroffer for the sake of counteroffering? 2) Where can I go to find real-world salaries? I checked Salary.com but their listings for my area seem really high. Thanks in advance everyone. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264145 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Certification
But that's really what the exam is, it tests how many tags and functions you know. There is very little else to it. -Original Message- From: Doug Bezona [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 December 2006 19:57 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Certification I'd have to say if a developer needs to take an exam to learn new features then perhaps they aren't a very good developer. Or perhaps the work they are doing simply doesn't expose them to some of the more esoteric functions of the language that the exam likely covers. Being a good developer has less to do with having memorized every last tag, function and feature, and much more with how that knowledge is applied to solve a problem. I can always look in the docs to get an answer to a syntax question, but the docs don't tell me how to use it to solve the particular problem in front of me - that's where experience and skill comes in. Exams, however, by their nature, tend to be more about reciting syntax and knowing the language in a broad fashion, rather than a deep one. So I can see how brushing up for an exam might give me more than a few a ha! moments as I cover aspects of the language I simply haven't had a real world use for, and it's useful information, but whether I knew it or not before hand has little bearing on how well I write software. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264214 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Certification
The study guide is basically a how to pass the certification book. You wouldn't be allowed to use such a book to pass your school exams, they would certainly call that cheating. I did not do any preperation for my test or use a study guide, in fact I took it with a hangover, and I still managed to pass. If you can't pass the test with your existing skills and knowledge, then what is the point in doing it? Russ -Original Message- From: Brian Rinaldi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 December 2006 18:52 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Certification I would like to make the point that the certs are not worthless - they answer the question as to your knowledge for 90% of the interviews you will take...you will rarely get anyone outright questioning your knowledge of CF if you have the advanced certification. I haven't gotten the 7 cert myself yet, but I have other things on my resume that fill that gap on my resume in terms of providing proof of my CF knowledge. I am also going to take serious issue with the concept that preparing for an exam is cheating. That is a seriously bone-headed comment. This exam is like any other exam and warrants preparation if you actually take it seriously...if you don't take it seriously, then don't prepare take your chances, but one would ask, why even bother taking it if you don't take the exam seriously enough to prepare. P.S. Back when I took the exam for 5 and 6, I used the cfexambuster and it was excellent. - Brian Rinaldi blog - http://www.remotesynthesis.com/blog CF Open Source List - http://www.remotesynthesis.com/cfopensourcelist ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264216 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Certification
Erm no, haven't you ready any books before ? -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 December 2006 22:30 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Certification By your definition, any textbook would be considered a how to pass a test manual right? !//-- andy matthews web developer certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 4:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Certification The study guide is basically a how to pass the certification book. You wouldn't be allowed to use such a book to pass your school exams, they would certainly call that cheating. I did not do any preperation for my test or use a study guide, in fact I took it with a hangover, and I still managed to pass. If you can't pass the test with your existing skills and knowledge, then what is the point in doing it? Russ ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264219 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Certification
Maybe for some people. -Original Message- From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 December 2006 23:18 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Certification to improve your skills and knowledge perhaps? The process of preparing for the test forces you to look into all the nooks and crannies of CF. I actually think its a good thing to do when you are first learning CF or maybe have 1 or 2 years under your belt. On 12/15/06, Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip If you can't pass the test with your existing skills and knowledge, then what is the point in doing it? ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264222 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: MX 6.1 Admin Password
Never seen that before, I checke dmy install, and just checking the box doesn't do antyhing, you do have to submit the form. You could try typing the password before checking the box. Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 December 2006 02:37 To: CF-Talk Subject: MX 6.1 Admin Password I'm kind of stuck with an admin password. I lost the password so I went into neo-security.xml to turn of the password. But when I go back in and try to enable it through the admin it throws me to a logon screen as soon as I click the enable password checkbox. I haven't reset the password yet so I can't get back in. I cycle CF service and the admin starts again w/o a password. Anybody have any ideas how to get the password to stick? ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264032 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: ImageCFC 2.10 Now Available
Couldn't you use JAVA to do it instead of CF, I think ImageMagick uses the underlying Java Image manipulation methods, maybe you could take a look and see how they do it. Russ -Original Message- From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 December 2006 15:19 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ImageCFC 2.10 Now Available Andy Matthews wrote: Word to your mom Rick! I was hoping you'd get that in there. The gaussian and box blurs are nearly unusable because of the speed. Coldfusion just can't handle doing that much math. For example, in the gaussian blur to do an image of 400x300, you're dealing with 120,000 pixels. If your radius is 5, then you're grabbing the RGB values of the nearest 5 pixels and applying a normal distribution to compute the new RGB value of the center pixel. so that's 600,000 iterations. And then you have to do it again for the vertical pass. 1.2 million iterations ... I just did some performance testing and I've discovered that doing my RGB separation calcs in a UDF is a *BAD* idea. I just modified the gaussianFilter.cfc to *NOT* use the separateRGB() udf and cut the processing time for an image from 96 to 77 seconds. It's still ridiculously slow, but that's still a 20% performance improvement. I guess there's a little overheard hitting a UDF 1.2 million times. I'm going to update the box blur too... and maybe also develop an object oriented interface to imagecfc cfscript objImage = createObject(component,imageObject); objImage.init(C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\myimage.gif); objImage.resize(400,300); objImage.addText(fontDetails,Sample Text); objImage.save(compression=95); objImage.saveAs(filename=C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\myimage.gif,compression=95); cfscript I think it might simplify use... but I don't want to mess with the main CFC. Sure would be nice if Coldfusion allowed multiple methods with the same name and different argument types, like java does... ooImage.init(filename); // initialize from a file ooImage.init(400,300); // initialize a blank image ooImage.init(bufferedImage); //initialize with a bufferedImage object Rick ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264053 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Coldfusion salaries - Nashville, TN
If your happy with what they are offering, why rock the boat. -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 December 2006 00:17 To: CF-Talk Subject: Coldfusion salaries - Nashville, TN Hey everyone... I've been offered a position with a company here in Nashville, TN. Everything that I've seen so far about the offer sounds great, including the pay. I just wanted to ask a a few general questions because I don't like talking about money. 1) Should I take the first offer they make? Should I counteroffer for the sake of counteroffering? 2) Where can I go to find real-world salaries? I checked Salary.com but their listings for my area seem really high. Thanks in advance everyone. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:264093 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
File upload max size
Someone was asking recently how you can limit the size of uploaded files, well I just came across this. http://www.cftagstore.com/tags/flashmultipleupload.cfm Russ ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:263774 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Coldfusion roadmap
And there are lots of alternative CFML application servers out there to take its place, such as BlueDragon, Railo, IgniteFusion etc. Russ -Original Message- From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 December 2006 21:28 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Coldfusion roadmap This whole thing really gets me pissed off. EVEN supposing Adobe decided they dont want ColdFusion (which i dont think they have) there would still be LOTs of coldfusion sites that need work, and they would far more likely to sell ColdFusion to someone else as a going business than just shut it down. So there's no chance we'll suddenly find ourselves out of a job. EVEN if coldfusion came to the EOL, ther would still be work for years to come afterwards. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On 12/13/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh oh, here it goes again! The ever present EOL stuff.. Let's just say, ColdFusion is alive and well.. With a major new version out next year. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:263867 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Paypal's IPN
Have u seen the tutorial for this at easycfm.com ? Russ -Original Message- From: Torrent Girl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 December 2006 00:12 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Paypal's IPN No I just want add a record of the payment to my DB and then send the payer an email. Do you want to have realtime processing? I would suggest PayPals Payflow Pro, its really easy to get going. Also another one I like is authorize.net. On 12/10/06, Torrent Girl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:263518 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: What's the name of that CF server...
There are a huuuge number of people out there using cf who don't use CFC's Only the more advanced developers have jumped on cfc's, the average joe who uses CFML doesn't really have any need for them nor does he want to learn them. And let be honest, CFML is still a great language without them, and most common tasks can be done without them. They are really there for people who want more of a programming language and want CF to do OO. Russ -Original Message- From: Christopher Jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 December 2006 19:16 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: What's the name of that CF server... Smith looks cool, but (last time I checked) it doesn't support CFCs! Yikes. I would love to see it go open source and all that, but I wouldn't use it until it supports CFCs. I believe there were some other features it didn't support, that I thought were essential, but they escape me at this time. On their website, they said that they'd look at supporting CFCs if there was enough interest, but I don't see how anyone would get behind the thing if it didn't support CFCs. I'd be interested to hear if anyone else has any different experience with Smith. Cheers, Chris Rick Faircloth wrote: Anybody using Smith? -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 1:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: What's the name of that CF server... There's Railo and Smith, along with Blue Dragon. !//-- andy matthews web developer certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:263653 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CF Dedicated hosting
If your in the UK, I can suggest cfmxhosting.co.uk :-) -Original Message- From: Nick Gleason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 December 2006 20:55 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Dedicated hosting Hey there. We've had good experiences with CF Dynamics for Dedicated hosting. Feel free to contact Jason Egan there - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best, Nick . .. ... Nick Gleason | CitySoft, Inc. | http://www.citysoft.com Direct: (617) 899-5395 | Fax: (617) 507-0444 Spend Less Do More - Community Enterprise combines great features with an affordable price. . .. ... -Original Message- From: Mehdi, Agha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 2:36 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF Dedicated hosting All, I am looking for recommendations on a hosting provider for dedicated CF 7.0 enabled server. My budget is roughly $200/month +- $50. I am hoping something that can support at least 25k-50k hits and outgoing emails a day. Access to CF admin is the most important feature with the ability to host multiple instances. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks Agha Mehdi IDT - eBusiness Program Manager Work: 408.284.8239 Cell : 510.493.0491 Fax : 408.284.2766 ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:263655 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Datasources case-sensitive?
Yes I have been on the receiving end of lots of abuse for that one when the client was just blaming our servers. Took me a while realise what the problem was. Russ -Original Message- From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 December 2006 19:15 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Datasources case-sensitive? Ran into the exact same thing at my CT shared hosting. My development machine would work fine... then run a query up on the server, kaboom! Will ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:263424 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: ERROR.Template gives main .cfm file. How to the included one.
This information is actually included in the error details. If you using a try/catch, just do a CFDUMP var=#cfcatch# and you will dee the details your looking for. Russ -Original Message- From: Archie Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 December 2006 01:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: ERROR.Template gives main .cfm file. How to the included one. In a CF7 app, I display an error message that gives the line number of the error and the main template in which the error occurred. Fine if the error occurred in the main template. But what if it occurred in a file that was cfinclude 'd by the main template. Is there a way to display the name of the included template, the file that the line number actually relates to? Thanks Archie Campbell ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:263395 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Anyone familiar witht the CF_TwoSelectsRelated custom tag?
These days your better off using AJAX to achieve the result of multiple related select lists. Its going to be a lot faster if your dealing with large amounts of data not to mention reducing loading time. Russ -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 December 2006 18:05 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone familiar witht the CF_TwoSelectsRelated custom tag? Maybe...and I cannot remember everything about it. In your twoSelects custom tag you should have the select that you want to get the information from. In that select try.. select language=javascript name=select1 onChange=text.value = select1.value option value=test1Test1/option option value=test2Test2/option option value=test3Test3/option option value=test4Test4/option /select input type=text name=text - Original Message - From: Che Vilnonis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 10:30 AM Subject: Anyone familiar witht the CF_TwoSelectsRelated custom tag? I ask because I would like to populate a text box named Genus with the value that is selected from the custom tag value named SelectedCatLevel2. Does anyone know how I might do this? Traditional JS calls don't seem to work. Thanks, Che. CF_TwoSelectsRelated QUERY=TwoSelects NAME1=SelectedCatLevel2 NAME2=SelectedCatLevel3 DISPLAY1=CL2Title DISPLAY2=CL3Title VALUE1=CL2ID VALUE2=CL3ID SIZE1=1 SIZE2=1 EMPTYTEXT1=Please Choose MESSAGE1=You must select a Level 2 Category. HTMLBETWEEN=nbsp;nbsp;CATLEVEL 3:nbsp; AUTOSELECTFIRST=No FORMNAME=FormX ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:263192 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Anyone familiar with the CF_TwoSelectsRelated custom tag?
If your only talking about a select list with a few options then yes.
But if your preloading js arrays with hundreds of options this will result
in quite a hefty page. Try it, and then check the size of the resulting HTML
page.
Also using ajax it is very easy to expand to ANY number of related select
lists. Doing this by pre-generating and populating js arrays will get more
and more complicated and make the page bigger and bigger and slower to
render.
Russ
-Original Message-
From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 December 2006 19:58
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Anyone familiar with the CF_TwoSelectsRelated custom tag?
These days your better off using AJAX to achieve the result of
multiple related select lists.
Its going to be a lot faster if your dealing with large amounts of
data not to mention reducing loading time.
E... I don't think I'd totally agree with that. One load versus a load
every time you make a selection. If it's all client side and in js arrays
already, the changes would be much faster than an asynchronous call to
another process to get the info.
This all, of course, depends on how MUCH data we are talking about though.
You don't want to overload a JS array on a windows 95 machine running IE 4.5
and 64 megs of ram ;-)
As for the question. You can roll your own selects related or you could
modify the onchange event of the twoselectsrelated's generated select with
something like...
document.forms['myformname'].myselctname.setAttribute('oncchange',
'callAFunciton()');
I'm sure I typoed something, just look up the setAttribute() method. You
would want to call the above code AFTER the two selects have been rendered
to the page.
setAttributes DOES work in IE as well as FF regardless of what you read.
There are just some attributes that it doesn't work very well with. I
haven't found a definitive list of them anywhere, you'll just have to try it
and see.
Personally, id write my own from scratch. You should be able to find enough
code on Google to piece something together.
...:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com
-Original Message-
From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 2:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Anyone familiar witht the CF_TwoSelectsRelated custom tag?
These days your better off using AJAX to achieve the result of multiple
related select lists.
Its going to be a lot faster if your dealing with large amounts of data not
to mention reducing loading time.
Russ
-Original Message-
From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 December 2006 18:05
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Anyone familiar witht the CF_TwoSelectsRelated custom tag?
Maybe...and I cannot remember everything about it. In your twoSelects custom
tag you should have the select that you want to get the information from. In
that select try..
select language=javascript name=select1 onChange=text.value =
select1.value option value=test1Test1/option option
value=test2Test2/option option value=test3Test3/option option
value=test4Test4/option /select
input type=text name=text
- Original Message -
From: Che Vilnonis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 10:30 AM
Subject: Anyone familiar witht the CF_TwoSelectsRelated custom tag?
I ask because I would like to populate a text box named Genus with
the value that is selected from the custom tag value named
SelectedCatLevel2.
Does anyone know how I might do this? Traditional JS calls don't seem
to work.
Thanks, Che.
CF_TwoSelectsRelated
QUERY=TwoSelects
NAME1=SelectedCatLevel2
NAME2=SelectedCatLevel3
DISPLAY1=CL2Title
DISPLAY2=CL3Title
VALUE1=CL2ID
VALUE2=CL3ID
SIZE1=1
SIZE2=1
EMPTYTEXT1=Please Choose
MESSAGE1=You must select a Level 2 Category.
HTMLBETWEEN=nbsp;nbsp;CATLEVEL 3:nbsp;
AUTOSELECTFIRST=No
FORMNAME=FormX
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RE: Free Coldfusion Hosting that lets me connect to MS Access Database
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RE: How do they do that?
How does Jquery compare to SPRY ? -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 December 2006 14:23 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: How do they do that? But the YUI libraries are HUGE in file size. Upwards of 130k for all of your functionality. Go with jQuery and the Interface library. jQuery is currently running around 18k and the interface library probably isn't much larger (if it's larger at all). !//-- andy matthews web developer certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Dan Vega [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 7:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How do they do that? The yahoo yui is really easy to use http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/dragdrop/ On 12/5/06, Michael E. Carluen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean something like this? http://interface.eyecon.ro/demos/drag.html (jQuery) http://www.indiankey.com/mxajax/examples/mxSlushBox1.cfm (mxAjax) http://demo.script.aculo.us/shop -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 4:51 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: How do they do that? I have always wondered how google makes it to where you can sort the content on their page. IE: drag and drop content to where you want it? I tried to view their souce and cannot do it and you cannot save the page either. Hmmm any ideas? Doug ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:263056 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Any way to limit file upload size?
Yes, someone already posted one -Original Message- From: Greg Luce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 December 2006 16:04 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Any way to limit file upload size? Aren't there Flash solutions for smart/multiple file uploads. That would be fairly palatable for most users. Greg On 12/6/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could potentially do it with JS, but that is obviously easily bypassed and may not work on all browsers. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Ben Nadel To: CF-Talk Sent: Tue Dec 05 15:42:31 2006 Subject: RE: Any way to limit file upload size? I am not sure if the content_length is available until the file is actually uploaded. I could be wrong on that though. ... Ben Nadel Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer www.bennadel.com Need ColdFusion Help? www.bennadel.com/ask-ben/ -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 10:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Any way to limit file upload size? What about something like so. Am I way off? It checks before the image is uploaded. page_1.cfm !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd; html head meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 titleUntitled Document/title /head body form action=page_1.cfm method=post enctype=multipart/form-data input type=file name=test1 input type=submit name=submitThis /form cfset allowedFileSize = 1000 cfif isDefined(form.submitThis) cfoutput cfif cgi.content_length gt #Val(allowedFileSize)# Error your file is way to bigbr /cfif Your file size was: #cgi.CONTENT_LENGTH# and the allowed size was #allowedFileSize# /cfoutput /cfif /body /html Doug - Original Message - From: Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 7:06 AM Subject: RE: Any way to limit file upload size? There is a setting in IIS to limit the size of form posts. But I can't find it for the life of me. -Original Message- From: Gaulin, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 December 2006 13:29 To: CF-Talk Subject: Any way to limit file upload size? Hi Is there any way in CF or IIS to limit the allowed file size for a form with a file attached? I have a situation where someone might accidentally upload a huge file when all we want is a sample file. I would want to avoid not only creating a huge temp file but also all of the bandwidth needed to send the file to the server. Thanks Mark ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:263057 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: getSessionList.cfm UDF
Just a general warning that you can do things like this on a shared host, as most people don't realise, and yes to say that find a host that has CF properly secured (yes like us). A Lot of people want everything enabled and don't really consider the consequences. And even with a secured server, some things (like CFDUMP) will still work and allow you to do things like the below. Personally I now store all my private data in request scope and not application variables for this reason. Russ -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 December 2006 00:48 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: getSessionList.cfm UDF Another reason not to use shared hosting and another example of how CFMX is just not suitable for shared hosting. In any case, can't you disable CreateObject(java,...) with security sandboxes? Yes you can, and we do, but some hosts don't, so I'm just giving a word of warning to thos eon a shared host who do have CreateObject(java) enabled. I'm confused; is your word of warning that people should only use hosts that have properly configured their servers (like you), or that they shouldn't use you either? Because most people would likely take the latter meaning from your first response. It's fine with me either way, since I don't use shared hosting. Also, you can still CFDUMP the application scope with no application name and see all the application vars. How else would you use CFDUMP to see the application scope? Or are you saying you can use CFDUMP to see the application scope of other applications? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:262851 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: path outside webroot
In the case of using / to mean the root of your site, this works if you have
no / mapping (e.g. cfinclude template=/includes/myfile.cfm). Which
implies that CF does know about your IIS settings, otherwise how would it
know the root of your site ?
Russ
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Subject: RE: path outside webroot
I indeed can, but I don't get why expandpath('/') returns something
completely different than expandpath('.') especially if, like you
said, CF doesn't know anything about my IIS setup...
Slashes are resolved using mappings, as per the docs. Dots are resolved
using the current location on the filesystem.
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RE: Any way to limit file upload size?
There is a setting in IIS to limit the size of form posts. But I can't find it for the life of me. -Original Message- From: Gaulin, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 December 2006 13:29 To: CF-Talk Subject: Any way to limit file upload size? Hi Is there any way in CF or IIS to limit the allowed file size for a form with a file attached? I have a situation where someone might accidentally upload a huge file when all we want is a sample file. I would want to avoid not only creating a huge temp file but also all of the bandwidth needed to send the file to the server. Thanks Mark ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:262868 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Full-Text Query Help
If you use CONTAINS, then full-text search will be used. Russ -Original Message- From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 December 2006 15:31 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Full-Text Query Help Does nobody have an idea on this? I'm basically trying to do something like this: select * from table1, table2 where table2.id=1 and table2.somefield like '%' + table1.someotherfield + '%' This works fine, although it's a bit slow for my taste... is there a way to optimize it, using full text search of verity? Somefield is a text field, and someotherfield is a varchar. Russ -Original Message- From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 8:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Full-Text Query Help I'm trying to do something like the following Select table1Id from table1, table2 where talbe2.tableId=1 and contains(table2.somefield, table1.someotherfield) Basically I have 2 tables that have no relationship. I want to search a single field in table2 (somefield) by using every value from the someotherfield field of the table1 table. I can't seem to get the syntax quite right. Is this even possible without looping? Russ ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:262889 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Any way to limit file upload size?
As CFML runs on the server, that code will not execute until after the file has been uploaded. Russ -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 December 2006 15:39 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Any way to limit file upload size? What about something like so. Am I way off? It checks before the image is uploaded. page_1.cfm !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd; html head meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 titleUntitled Document/title /head body form action=page_1.cfm method=post enctype=multipart/form-data input type=file name=test1 input type=submit name=submitThis /form cfset allowedFileSize = 1000 cfif isDefined(form.submitThis) cfoutput cfif cgi.content_length gt #Val(allowedFileSize)# Error your file is way to bigbr /cfif Your file size was: #cgi.CONTENT_LENGTH# and the allowed size was #allowedFileSize# /cfoutput /cfif /body /html Doug - Original Message - From: Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 7:06 AM Subject: RE: Any way to limit file upload size? There is a setting in IIS to limit the size of form posts. But I can't find it for the life of me. -Original Message- From: Gaulin, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 December 2006 13:29 To: CF-Talk Subject: Any way to limit file upload size? Hi Is there any way in CF or IIS to limit the allowed file size for a form with a file attached? I have a situation where someone might accidentally upload a huge file when all we want is a sample file. I would want to avoid not only creating a huge temp file but also all of the bandwidth needed to send the file to the server. Thanks Mark ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:262890 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Any way to limit file upload size?
IIS will read the headers first. -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 December 2006 15:49 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Any way to limit file upload size? Well, if that is so, then there should not be a way of checking. Even in IIS you would have to submit the form before any checking is done. You cannot simply select the file and have something check the size of it. At least this way the file is not processed and uploaded to the server. Doug - Original Message - From: Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 8:42 AM Subject: RE: Any way to limit file upload size? As CFML runs on the server, that code will not execute until after the file has been uploaded. Russ -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 December 2006 15:39 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Any way to limit file upload size? What about something like so. Am I way off? It checks before the image is uploaded. page_1.cfm !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd; html head meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 titleUntitled Document/title /head body form action=page_1.cfm method=post enctype=multipart/form-data input type=file name=test1 input type=submit name=submitThis /form cfset allowedFileSize = 1000 cfif isDefined(form.submitThis) cfoutput cfif cgi.content_length gt #Val(allowedFileSize)# Error your file is way to bigbr /cfif Your file size was: #cgi.CONTENT_LENGTH# and the allowed size was #allowedFileSize# /cfoutput /cfif /body /html Doug - Original Message - From: Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 7:06 AM Subject: RE: Any way to limit file upload size? There is a setting in IIS to limit the size of form posts. But I can't find it for the life of me. -Original Message- From: Gaulin, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 December 2006 13:29 To: CF-Talk Subject: Any way to limit file upload size? Hi Is there any way in CF or IIS to limit the allowed file size for a form with a file attached? I have a situation where someone might accidentally upload a huge file when all we want is a sample file. I would want to avoid not only creating a huge temp file but also all of the bandwidth needed to send the file to the server. Thanks Mark ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:262904 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Any way to limit file upload size?
If you try and upload a large file, something that would normally take a minute or 2, you will find that your code will not run until that file has fully uploaded to the server. Russ -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 December 2006 15:52 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Any way to limit file upload size? Well, This is what I have in my image upload and it works fine. The file does not get uploaded until it passes certain checks. cfset Valid = True cfset VaildSZ = True cfset Error = cfif Not IsDefined(form.AdPhoto) or Len(form.AdPhoto) lt 3 cfset Valid = False cfset VaildSZ = False cfset Error = Error liThe Upload Photo field is required./liBR /cfif cfif cgi.content_length gt #Val(APPLICATION.ALLOWEDCLADSSIZE)# cfset Valid = False cfset VaildSZ = False cfset Error = Error liThe uploaded photo is too large. Maximum allowed size is #Val(APPLICATION.ALLOWEDCLADSSIZE)#K and yours is #cgi.content_length#K./liBR /cfif cfif VaildSZ cftry !--- UPLOAD GRAPHIC TO SERVER --- cffile action=upload filefield=AdPhoto accept=#APPLICATION.ATTACHTYPE# destination=#APPLICATION.IMAGEPATH#images-ads\cats#Val(ClassAdForPhotos.SCa tegoryID)#\ nameconflict=makeunique cfset RenamePhoto = #Val(adid)#-#DateFormat(Now(), mmdd)##TimeFormat(now(), HHmmss)#.#File.serverFileExt# cffile action=rename source=#APPLICATION.IMAGEPATH#images-ads\cats#Val(ClassAdForPhotos.SCategor yID)#\#File.ServerFile# destination=#APPLICATION.IMAGEPATH#images-ads\cats#Val(ClassAdForPhotos.SCa tegoryID)#\#Trim(RenamePhoto)# cfset AdPhoto = #Trim(RenamePhoto)# cfcatch cfset Valid = False cfset Error = Error liThe uploaded photo is not in an acceptable format. Please try again./liBR /cfcatch /cftry /cfif - Original Message - From: Ben Nadel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 8:42 AM Subject: RE: Any way to limit file upload size? I am not sure if the content_length is available until the file is actually uploaded. I could be wrong on that though. .. Ben Nadel Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer www.bennadel.com Need ColdFusion Help? www.bennadel.com/ask-ben/ -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 10:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Any way to limit file upload size? What about something like so. Am I way off? It checks before the image is uploaded. page_1.cfm !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd; html head meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 titleUntitled Document/title /head body form action=page_1.cfm method=post enctype=multipart/form-data input type=file name=test1 input type=submit name=submitThis /form cfset allowedFileSize = 1000 cfif isDefined(form.submitThis) cfoutput cfif cgi.content_length gt #Val(allowedFileSize)# Error your file is way to bigbr /cfif Your file size was: #cgi.CONTENT_LENGTH# and the allowed size was #allowedFileSize# /cfoutput /cfif /body /html Doug - Original Message - From: Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 7:06 AM Subject: RE: Any way to limit file upload size? There is a setting in IIS to limit the size of form posts. But I can't find it for the life of me. -Original Message- From: Gaulin, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 December 2006 13:29 To: CF-Talk Subject: Any way to limit file upload size? Hi Is there any way in CF or IIS to limit the allowed file size for a form with a file attached? I have a situation where someone might accidentally upload a huge file when all we want is a sample file. I would want to avoid not only creating a huge temp file but also all of the bandwidth needed to send the file to the server. Thanks Mark ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:262906 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: path outside webroot
I'm pretty sure the / mapping rule doesn't apply when using expand path.
As I said before, with this rule, if you have a mapping called / this
mapping will be used, if you do not, the relative root of your website will
be used instead.
Russ
-Original Message-
From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 December 2006 16:11
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: path outside webroot
Go to command prompt and type
CD .
And then
CD /
And you will se ethe difference
No you won't :-)
C:\WINDOWScd .
C:\WINDOWScd /
C:\WINDOWS
I know what [.] [..] and [/] are as far as their meanings in a directory
structure go... which is why I didn't get that ExpandPath('.') gave me the
current directory path but ExpandPath('/') didn't give me the path of the
main webroot (relative to the site).
I saw the same thing in the docs Dave, but it still seems that it does
something other than it should or at least something other than what anyone
would want it to do even though it takes 1 option... a RELATIVE path, the
docs claim the slash is read from a mapping... but, if the path returned by
ExpandPath('/') was from a mapping, wouldn't a mapping for / need to exist?
It doesn't.
Also, if ExpandPath could read a directory from a mapping, why wouldn't
something like... ExpandPath('/acoderslife') return the correct path for the
mapping called '/acoderslife'.
I know you might not have all the answers to this, I'm more or less
thinking/talking out loud here...
Apparently someone commented on the same thing at the bottom of the livedocs
as well.
Here are some others I don't get...
GetDirectoryFromPath(.) and GetDirectoryFromPath(\) return \ no matter
where they are called from.
GetDirectoryFromPath(ExpandPath(.)) returns the parent directory of the
directory that the command was executed from.
GetDirectoryFromPath(ExpandPath(..)) returns TWO directories above the
calling dir
.but as it is, apparently you will always need to know where you are
calling any of the above from to 'dynamically' get the root of the site or
you could create a template that contains:
cfset request.rootpath = GetDirectoryFromPath(GetCurrentTemplatePath()) /
and ALWAYS put it in the root of a site then cfinclude it anytime you want
to know what the rootpath is.
I know it's all somewhat moot. I have no problem setting a global
configuration file and adjusting things between servers (which I don't
normally have to do) everything basically sets itself in my configs based on
the server but the actual directory paths are dependent on me keeping the
same directory structure like I mentioned in a previous email. If my config
file is not inside of a folder just off the root called '\include\', then
the config file would need to change so the 'root path' is set correctly.
But if ExpandPath('/') did what most people would expect it to do, that
directory structure would never matter again.
Oh well I suppose :-)
...:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com
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RE: cfform - bad hosting company
They would have had to disable the tag in order for it to not be working. What error do you get when u try and use CFFORM? Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 December 2006 16:50 To: CF-Talk Subject: cfform - bad hosting company Doesn't cfform work by defualt when CFV7 is installed? Is there something in the cf admin that needs to be enabled? I sent an email to the Web hosting company saying that cfform wasn't work based on sample code from the documentation and they want me to tell them if there's something they need to enable in order to get it working. 8-) Thanks D ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:262916 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
