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On Tuesday 01 August 2006 15:29, Rick Faircloth wrote: Is there a way to set up some kind of reply formatting in Outlook like in Thunderbird? Probably. I used to use http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/ -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248601 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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On Monday 31 July 2006 18:49, Rick Faircloth wrote: I'm all for trimming posts and certainly understand the need, but I wish everyone would Post at the bottom like normal people :-) -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248389 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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I feel a fight coming up... Tom Chiverton wrote: Post at the bottom like normal people :-) ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248390 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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Fight! Fight! (Virtual crowd gathers 'round)... -Original Message- From: Mingo Hagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 7:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: (admin) List Status I feel a fight coming up... Tom Chiverton wrote: Post at the bottom like normal people :-) ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248393 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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I haven't mastered normal yet. Every time I think I've got it figured out, it changes. :o) Rick PS - Good idea for reading messages, but bad for composition... too much time to copy, paste, etc., the previous message content. Not only that, but I've also got to cut other quoted content from the sent message. :oP -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 7:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: (admin) List Status Post at the bottom like normal people :-) -- Tom Chiverton ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248394 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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On Tuesday 01 August 2006 13:46, Rick Faircloth wrote: Fight! Fight! (Virtual crowd gathers 'round)... You wanna take it outside, do ya ? Right... -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248396 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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On Tuesday 01 August 2006 13:44, Rick Faircloth wrote: too much time to copy, paste, etc., the previous message content. Get A Better Client :-) Not only that, but I've also got to cut other quoted content from the sent message. :oP Same as you have to trim N other top posted comments. Bottom posting *forces* you to trim, or your comments end up 'over the fold'. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248397 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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Why wait 'til we get outside? :o) (Virtual crowd grows larger..avatars try to maintain order...) PS - Man, Tom...you've got the longest signature block in history. Takes 2 minutes just to cut that out :o) Rick You wanna take it outside, do ya ? Right... -- Tom Chiverton ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248399 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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As long as we're complaining... I hate those long disclaimers at the bottom of your e-mail... last I heard, normal people don't have those, Tom? ;-) Although as I write this I see Thunderbird has been nice enough to auto snip it off, because it's below two dashes... cool ;) Mingo. Tom Chiverton wrote: On Tuesday 01 August 2006 13:44, Rick Faircloth wrote: too much time to copy, paste, etc., the previous message content. Get A Better Client :-) Not only that, but I've also got to cut other quoted content from the sent message. :oP Same as you have to trim N other top posted comments. Bottom posting *forces* you to trim, or your comments end up 'over the fold'. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248400 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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Get A Better Client :-) What do you use? Same as you have to trim N other top posted comments. Bottom posting *forces* you to trim, or your comments end up 'over the fold'. Sorry, not following... Rick -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 9:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: (admin) List Status On Tuesday 01 August 2006 13:44, Rick Faircloth wrote: too much time to copy, paste, etc., the previous message content. Get A Better Client :-) Not only that, but I've also got to cut other quoted content from the sent message. :oP Same as you have to trim N other top posted comments. Bottom posting *forces* you to trim, or your comments end up 'over the fold'. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248401 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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I wonder if companies realise just how worthless those disclaimers are anyway -Original Message- From: Mingo Hagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 August 2006 14:32 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: (admin) List Status As long as we're complaining... I hate those long disclaimers at the bottom of your e-mail... last I heard, normal people don't have those, Tom? ;-) Although as I write this I see Thunderbird has been nice enough to auto snip it off, because it's below two dashes... cool ;) Mingo. Tom Chiverton wrote: On Tuesday 01 August 2006 13:44, Rick Faircloth wrote: too much time to copy, paste, etc., the previous message content. Get A Better Client :-) Not only that, but I've also got to cut other quoted content from the sent message. :oP Same as you have to trim N other top posted comments. Bottom posting *forces* you to trim, or your comments end up 'over the fold'. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248405 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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Apparently, they don't and I don't get why they don't, you would think that they'd get some legal advice on such matters... Assuming that the lawyers do know that they're worthless (the disclaimers, not the lawyers...) Snake wrote: I wonder if companies realise just how worthless those disclaimers are anyway ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248406 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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In Tom's defense, (although I'm sure he can defend himself), some companies auto-append those disclaimers at the mail server. So Tom's sig may only be 1 line--his name. PS - Man, Tom...you've got the longest signature block in history. Takes 2 minutes just to cut that out :o) ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248407 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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I'm thinking of writing a little disclaimer on all of my cash that says it belongs to Ken Ferguson and if it is found on the sidewalk in front of a bar, that you are not allowed to spend it and must either return it to me or dispose of it. I wonder if that works? --Ferg -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 8:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: (admin) List Status I wonder if companies realise just how worthless those disclaimers are anyway -Original Message- From: Mingo Hagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 August 2006 14:32 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: (admin) List Status As long as we're complaining... I hate those long disclaimers at the bottom of your e-mail... last I heard, normal people don't have those, Tom? ;-) Although as I write this I see Thunderbird has been nice enough to auto snip it off, because it's below two dashes... cool ;) Mingo. Tom Chiverton wrote: On Tuesday 01 August 2006 13:44, Rick Faircloth wrote: too much time to copy, paste, etc., the previous message content. Get A Better Client :-) Not only that, but I've also got to cut other quoted content from the sent message. :oP Same as you have to trim N other top posted comments. Bottom posting *forces* you to trim, or your comments end up 'over the fold'. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248408 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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On Tuesday 01 August 2006 14:50, Kris Jones wrote: In Tom's defense, (although I'm sure he can defend himself), some companies auto-append those disclaimers at the mail server. So Tom's sig may only be 1 line--his name. Indeed. My sig is *two* lines (except when I alter it for comedy value). I'm sure there should be some sort of X-Disclaimer-Link: header... -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248410 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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On Tuesday 01 August 2006 14:32, Rick Faircloth wrote: Get A Better Client :-) What do you use? KMail at work, Thunderbird at home. Same as you have to trim N other top posted comments. Bottom posting *forces* you to trim, or your comments end up 'over the fold'. Sorry, not following... If you bottom / in-line reply, and don't trim to just a few quoted lines, your reply will get lost in the mail footer. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248411 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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On Tuesday 01 August 2006 14:32, Mingo Hagen wrote: Although as I write this I see Thunderbird has been nice enough to auto snip it off, because it's below two dashes... cool ;) :nods Two dashes rock :-) I've just found 'use smaller font for quoted text' and 'show expand/collapse quote marks' :-) -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248412 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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Is there a way to set up some kind of reply formatting in Outlook like in Thunderbird? Rick -Original Message- From: Mingo Hagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 9:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: (admin) List Status As long as we're complaining... I hate those long disclaimers at the bottom of your e-mail... last I heard, normal people don't have those, Tom? ;-) Although as I write this I see Thunderbird has been nice enough to auto snip it off, because it's below two dashes... cool ;) Mingo. Tom Chiverton wrote: On Tuesday 01 August 2006 13:44, Rick Faircloth wrote: too much time to copy, paste, etc., the previous message content. Get A Better Client :-) Not only that, but I've also got to cut other quoted content from the sent message. :oP Same as you have to trim N other top posted comments. Bottom posting *forces* you to trim, or your comments end up 'over the fold'. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248418 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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Error reporting feature is great, however, I got a message too long error and it came through anyway... bug or feature? Mingo. Michael Dinowitz wrote: I've done a major redesign of the House of Fusion user interface as well as the backend system. Posting through the archives should work as long as your subscribed to the list in question. The same goes for posting by email. If there is a problem, you will get an error message as long as your email address is recognised as a site member (even if not a member of the list being posted to). If there are any questions or comments, please email me off list. Thank you ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248232 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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Feature. The email is a reminder to trim your posts, not a message saying that the job has been done for you. Error reporting feature is great, however, I got a message too long error and it came through anyway... bug or feature? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248267 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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Now, Charlie... I don't know if that is an Amen to my previous post about leaving part of the previous response in the reply or what! Where's the part of the previous post! :o) Amen to what? :o) Rick -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: (admin) List Status Amen :) -- Charlie Griefer ...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with a swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248290 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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ROFL Rick Faircloth wrote: Now, Charlie... I don't know if that is an Amen to my previous post about leaving part of the previous response in the reply or what! Where's the part of the previous post! :o) Amen to what? :o) Rick ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248298 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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I'm all for trimming posts and certainly understand the need, but I wish everyone would leave the last post (or part of it) in the reply so I could have a reference point to responses. I agree, although I do love this list for how well people generally do trim their posts. I run a few yahoogroups and people just always leave the entire previous post(s) attached and it just grows longer and longer...I wish *they* had a feature to remind people to trim their posts because I usually have to do it myself. Looks like some new features for those of us that read the list through the web, such a login box on the reply page (I always forget to login first). Thanks for adding this! ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248312 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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All I ask is that people trim content from their posts that is not important. I think the filter is set to 100 lines, which is usually more than enough for anyone. :) As for the new features, they've been on my list for a while and I just needed to get them in. If there's any others you would like, let me know off list and I'll see about adding them in. Currently my list has on it better post error messages, a tag cloud for all lists, better CSS, a book review link in place of the Amazon ads, direct ads rather than Google ones and an announcement for Sandy's CSS class so people can go to it and then give me CSS feedback. :) I agree, although I do love this list for how well people generally do trim their posts. I run a few yahoogroups and people just always leave the entire previous post(s) attached and it just grows longer and longer...I wish *they* had a feature to remind people to trim their posts because I usually have to do it myself. Looks like some new features for those of us that read the list through the web, such a login box on the reply page (I always forget to login first). Thanks for adding this! ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248316 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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I'd still like to see Michael implement some kind of automated trimming function for the mail. Perhaps it could leave the Original Message header, as below, and then leave the next 10-20 lines of the message and trim the rest, including his links etc., at the bottom. No more manual trimming and no more looong posts... Rick -Original Message- From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 3:23 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: (admin) List Status I agree, although I do love this list for how well people generally do trim their posts. I run a few yahoogroups and people just always leave the entire previous post(s) attached and it just grows longer and longer...I wish *they* had a feature to remind people to trim their posts because I usually have to do it myself. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248319 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
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The problem with that would be that every mail client (in every different language) has it's own version of 'Original Message'. Rick Faircloth wrote: I'd still like to see Michael implement some kind of automated trimming function for the mail. Perhaps it could leave the Original Message header, as below, and then leave the next 10-20 lines of the message and trim the rest, including his links etc., at the bottom. No more manual trimming and no more looong posts... ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248323 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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Is there a common data type for Original Message so that the specific language can be ignored? -Original Message- From: Mingo Hagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 3:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: (admin) List Status The problem with that would be that every mail client (in every different language) has it's own version of 'Original Message'. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248330 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
agreed
-Original Message-
From: Sicular, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
Sorry , but armpit of america status belongs to east lansing, michigan.
Believe me , I spent two years there and yes, we did call it the armpit of
america.
Alexander Sicular
Chief Technology Architect
Neurological Institute of New York
Columbia University
as867 [at] columbia {dot} edu
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|I spent a lifetime in Buffalo one Saturday...
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|-Original Message-
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|Buffalo the armpit of America even Clevelands better than
|buffalo.well just barely
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Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
Here here. Australia... Too young for Florida deg a former Olympic Stadium to hold Michael's presentations in. It's not doing anything a few days of the year.About 360 days a year at last count. __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
and alligators, water moccasins and creepy guys that have been to one to many bar (For the natives: the ones (guys) in Central Florida that wear that ball cap like thing . . . think Palatka) I shudder. - Original Message - From: Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 4:27 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE ..and sharks At 11:20 AM 5/15/2002 -0700, you wrote: What are you afraid of: terrorists, hurricaines, train derailments, voting scandals, tourist taxes, water shortages, impossible traffic, lightning, speaking spanish, Jimmy Buffet, or sunburn? Certainly there's nothing wrong with Florida that Jeb Bush or Janet Reno can't fix. It helps if you say that over and over. Good Fortune, Richard Walters, Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (800) 604-5227 x 3525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 02:07PM No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth. What about Buffalo, NY? -Original Message- From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Perhaps we should start planning the CF-Talk Expo here in Florida? Good Fortune, Richard Walters, Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (800) 604-5227 x 3525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been consuming that gift. Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug, or license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will get back to the news ha. -Original Message- From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR: Our goal is $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us! -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I think you misread my intentions. I figured that if someone could see that the goal was not yet reached then they would be more inclined to donate. People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a goal was not reached. If, say, someone waits a few weeks before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that there were enough donations. If, however, they could see that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to donate $100. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin) Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things, and what he's put in place. Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the group. But I trust Michael and his decisions. Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be hidden.. And I have NO doubt that Michael is above that. However, ANYTHING he receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we gain from this list, and ultimately his support. Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if anything. If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do with it.. I'm sure. Just my .02 __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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I'll second that Buffalo nomination! Jeff - Original Message - From: Ryan Pieszak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:07 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth. What about Buffalo, NY? -Original Message- From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Perhaps we should start planning the CF-Talk Expo here in Florida? Good Fortune, Richard Walters, Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (800) 604-5227 x 3525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been consuming that gift. Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug, or license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will get back to the news ha. -Original Message- From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR: Our goal is $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us! -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I think you misread my intentions. I figured that if someone could see that the goal was not yet reached then they would be more inclined to donate. People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a goal was not reached. If, say, someone waits a few weeks before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that there were enough donations. If, however, they could see that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to donate $100. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin) Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things, and what he's put in place. Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the group. But I trust Michael and his decisions. Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be hidden.. And I have NO doubt that Michael is above that. However, ANYTHING he receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we gain from this list, and ultimately his support. Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if anything. If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do with it.. I'm sure. Just my .02 __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
If you come to Seattle, we'll promise not to tear-gas ya! -Original Message- From: Development [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 7:21 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I'll second that Buffalo nomination! Jeff - Original Message - From: Ryan Pieszak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:07 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth. What about Buffalo, NY? -Original Message- From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Perhaps we should start planning the CF-Talk Expo here in Florida? Good Fortune, Richard Walters, Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (800) 604-5227 x 3525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been consuming that gift. Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug, or license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will get back to the news ha. -Original Message- From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR: Our goal is $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us! -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I think you misread my intentions. I figured that if someone could see that the goal was not yet reached then they would be more inclined to donate. People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a goal was not reached. If, say, someone waits a few weeks before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that there were enough donations. If, however, they could see that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to donate $100. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin) Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things, and what he's put in place. Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the group. But I trust Michael and his decisions. Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be hidden.. And I have NO doubt that Michael is above that. However, ANYTHING he receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we gain from this list, and ultimately his support. Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if anything. If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do with it.. I'm sure. Just my .02 __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
I'm going unilateral in my vote for Bournemouth, England. I'm confident that this one will be a winner, I really am. -Original Message- From: Development [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 May 2002 15:21 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I'll second that Buffalo nomination! Jeff - Original Message - From: Ryan Pieszak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:07 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth. What about Buffalo, NY? -Original Message- From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Perhaps we should start planning the CF-Talk Expo here in Florida? Good Fortune, Richard Walters, Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (800) 604-5227 x 3525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been consuming that gift. Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug, or license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will get back to the news ha. -Original Message- From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR: Our goal is $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us! -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I think you misread my intentions. I figured that if someone could see that the goal was not yet reached then they would be more inclined to donate. People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a goal was not reached. If, say, someone waits a few weeks before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that there were enough donations. If, however, they could see that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to donate $100. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin) Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things, and what he's put in place. Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the group. But I trust Michael and his decisions. Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be hidden.. And I have NO doubt that Michael is above that. However, ANYTHING he receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we gain from this list, and ultimately his support. Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if anything. If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do with it.. I'm sure. Just my .02 __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
Not terribly long.. Its a 400 or so mile trip... Quicker to take a plane Beleive it or not, Buffalo even has its own airport.. ;-) Jeff - Original Message - From: Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:14 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE How long does it take to get there by train from Manhatten? At 02:07 PM 5/15/02, you wrote: No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth. What about Buffalo, NY? -Original Message- From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Perhaps we should start planning the CF-Talk Expo here in Florida? Good Fortune, Richard Walters, Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (800) 604-5227 x 3525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been consuming that gift. Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug, or license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will get back to the news ha. -Original Message- From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR: Our goal is $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us! -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I think you misread my intentions. I figured that if someone could see that the goal was not yet reached then they would be more inclined to donate. People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a goal was not reached. If, say, someone waits a few weeks before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that there were enough donations. If, however, they could see that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to donate $100. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin) Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things, and what he's put in place. Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the group. But I trust Michael and his decisions. Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be hidden.. And I have NO doubt that Michael is above that. However, ANYTHING he receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we gain from this list, and ultimately his support. Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if anything. If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do with it.. I'm sure. Just my .02 __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
ROTFLMAO! My niece lives in East Palatka. Fortunately she still has all her teeth. Sharon - Original Message - From: Shawnea Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 7:44 AM Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE and alligators, water moccasins and creepy guys that have been to one to many bar (For the natives: the ones (guys) in Central Florida that wear that ball cap like thing . . . think Palatka) I shudder. __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
A third vote for the Buffalo nomination - Original Message - From: Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I'll second that Buffalo nomination! Jeff - Original Message - From: Ryan Pieszak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:07 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth. What about Buffalo, NY? -Original Message- From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Perhaps we should start planning the CF-Talk Expo here in Florida? Good Fortune, Richard Walters, Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (800) 604-5227 x 3525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been consuming that gift. Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug, or license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will get back to the news ha. -Original Message- From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR: Our goal is $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us! -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I think you misread my intentions. I figured that if someone could see that the goal was not yet reached then they would be more inclined to donate. People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a goal was not reached. If, say, someone waits a few weeks before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that there were enough donations. If, however, they could see that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to donate $100. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin) Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things, and what he's put in place. Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the group. But I trust Michael and his decisions. Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be hidden.. And I have NO doubt that Michael is above that. However, ANYTHING he receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we gain from this list, and ultimately his support. Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if anything. If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do with it.. I'm sure. Just my .02 __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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Michael Dinowitz 3501 Ave K Brooklyn, NY 11210 I got just rid of my Paypal acct when I hit my max and they wanted a bank acct #. Got a Plan B (mail address or something) Michael? Cheers, --Matt-- -- Original Message -- from: Bob Lehman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] date: Tue, 14 May 2002 18:33:05 -0400 Just donated my 10 bucks. More than worth it. Good luck Michael Enjoy Bob Lehman New Horizon Mgmt and Consulting 440-542-0992 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Paul Giesenhagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [admin] List status Everyone who gets help from this list pitch in .. a server license is thousands of $$$ and the help and support is priceless... If everyone pitched in $10.00 from the list, he would get about $35,000 that would keep it running reay smooth! Paul Giesenhagen QuillDesign I've started the ball rolling on my side and some people from the list have started donating. It's a good thing as the list archives are currently 550 meg in an access DB. A disaster waiting to happen. At 03:42 PM 5/14/02, you wrote: Wow, searching the archives would be 'the heat'! how can we help to get the sql box online? Tony Gruen __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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Can you say crap. :) I am not a big fan of MySQL. I have to do some work in it and it pales in comparison. -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 5:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status Can you say MySQL? g - Original Message - From: Margaret Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 6:10 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status Actually, we just priced this: It is about $5000 per cpu if you get SQL Server Standard edition and about 20,000 (not sure about this one) per cpu if you want Enterprise edition. The difference between the editions is failover and uptime tools. __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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I am not a big fan of MySQL. I have to do some work in it and it pales in comparison. Yes, but compared to the performance of MS Access how does it do? I'm just talking performance, not administration. There are admin tools out there for the front end. -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 5:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status Can you say MySQL? g - Original Message - From: Margaret Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 6:10 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status Actually, we just priced this: It is about $5000 per cpu if you get SQL Server Standard edition and about 20,000 (not sure about this one) per cpu if you want Enterprise edition. The difference between the editions is failover and uptime tools. __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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I am sure performance wise it is better, but the admin tools aren't great. There is nothing even close to Enterprise Manager. And someone correct me if I am wrong, but does MySQL support stored procs yet? Last time I checked it still didn't. It just seems clunky to me. Mike, who hosts the lists, do they have a dedicated SQL box that you could use rather than purchasing your own, or do you host the lists yourself? -Original Message- From: David Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 7:57 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status I am not a big fan of MySQL. I have to do some work in it and it pales in comparison. Yes, but compared to the performance of MS Access how does it do? I'm just talking performance, not administration. There are admin tools out there for the front end. -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 5:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status Can you say MySQL? g - Original Message - From: Margaret Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 6:10 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status Actually, we just priced this: It is about $5000 per cpu if you get SQL Server Standard edition and about 20,000 (not sure about this one) per cpu if you want Enterprise edition. The difference between the editions is failover and uptime tools. __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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I know that MySQL cannot really stand up to MS SQL but when you are talking about the amount that MS SQL costs versus using MySQL, I would us MySQL unless someone just wanted to pay for MS SQL. -- Clint Tredway -- Through Him, anything is possible. Can you say crap. :) I am not a big fan of MySQL. I have to do some work in it and it pales in comparison. -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 5:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status Can you say MySQL? g - Original Message - From: Margaret Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 6:10 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status Actually, we just priced this: It is about $5000 per cpu if you get SQL Server Standard edition and about 20,000 (not sure about this one) per cpu if you want Enterprise edition. The difference between the editions is failover and uptime tools. __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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Michael are we talking getting an actually box at your place (or where ever to do this) or you can you piggy back on an already live sql enterprise box (thats not even close to being utilized)? I am not sure how legal this might be or even if my boss would go for it, but at $500 for sql 2000 enterprise (state prices!!!) maybe something else could be done... [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 08:59AM I know that MySQL cannot really stand up to MS SQL but when you are talking about the amount that MS SQL costs versus using MySQL, I would us MySQL unless someone just wanted to pay for MS SQL. -- Clint Tredway -- Through Him, anything is possible. Can you say crap. :) I am not a big fan of MySQL. I have to do some work in it and it pales in comparison. -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 5:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status Can you say MySQL? g - Original Message - From: Margaret Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 6:10 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status Actually, we just priced this: It is about $5000 per cpu if you get SQL Server Standard edition and about 20,000 (not sure about this one) per cpu if you want Enterprise edition. The difference between the editions is failover and uptime tools. __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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I've seen independent tests that showed that MySql was actually faster than MSSQL. Of course, results may vary but the point is that MySql is no slouch. MySql 4.1 (yes, it's vaporware currently) is slated to support stored procedures... Regards, -- Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager On-Line Data Solutions, Inc. - www.CoolFusion.com - 631-737-4668 x101 inFusion Mail Server (iMS) - The Award-winning, Intelligent Mail Server Find out how iMS Stacks up to the competition: http://www.coolfusion.com/imssecomparison.cfm - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 8:59 AM Subject: RE: [admin] List status I know that MySQL cannot really stand up to MS SQL but when you are talking about the amount that MS SQL costs versus using MySQL, I would us MySQL unless someone just wanted to pay for MS SQL. -- Clint Tredway -- Through Him, anything is possible. __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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Does mysql have full text searching capabilities like MS SQL if not then they would be almost pointless to use MY SQL to search through the list archives. Josh -Original Message- From: Michael Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status Michael are we talking getting an actually box at your place (or where ever to do this) or you can you piggy back on an already live sql enterprise box (thats not even close to being utilized)? I am not sure how legal this might be or even if my boss would go for it, but at $500 for sql 2000 enterprise (state prices!!!) maybe something else could be done... [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 08:59AM I know that MySQL cannot really stand up to MS SQL but when you are talking about the amount that MS SQL costs versus using MySQL, I would us MySQL unless someone just wanted to pay for MS SQL. -- Clint Tredway -- Through Him, anything is possible. Can you say crap. :) I am not a big fan of MySQL. I have to do some work in it and it pales in comparison. -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 5:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status Can you say MySQL? g - Original Message - From: Margaret Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 6:10 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status Actually, we just priced this: It is about $5000 per cpu if you get SQL Server Standard edition and about 20,000 (not sure about this one) per cpu if you want Enterprise edition. The difference between the editions is failover and uptime tools. __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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Does mysql have full text searching capabilities like MS SQL if not then they would be almost pointless to use MY SQL to search through the list archives. I don't know whether MySQL provides that, but you could just as easily use Verity for that, assuming you're writing the front end in CF. The K2 stuff in CF 5 and CF MX is pretty nice. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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Ever hear of Verity? __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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Duh Verity I forgot about that. But still wouldnt the back end of sql be alot faster than cf verity? -Original Message- From: Joshua Tipton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status Does mysql have full text searching capabilities like MS SQL if not then they would be almost pointless to use MY SQL to search through the list archives. Josh -Original Message- From: Michael Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status Michael are we talking getting an actually box at your place (or where ever to do this) or you can you piggy back on an already live sql enterprise box (thats not even close to being utilized)? I am not sure how legal this might be or even if my boss would go for it, but at $500 for sql 2000 enterprise (state prices!!!) maybe something else could be done... [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 08:59AM I know that MySQL cannot really stand up to MS SQL but when you are talking about the amount that MS SQL costs versus using MySQL, I would us MySQL unless someone just wanted to pay for MS SQL. -- Clint Tredway -- Through Him, anything is possible. Can you say crap. :) I am not a big fan of MySQL. I have to do some work in it and it pales in comparison. -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 5:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status Can you say MySQL? g - Original Message - From: Margaret Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 6:10 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status Actually, we just priced this: It is about $5000 per cpu if you get SQL Server Standard edition and about 20,000 (not sure about this one) per cpu if you want Enterprise edition. The difference between the editions is failover and uptime tools. __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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Allow me to interject a word of reason here, from the perspective of someone who runs a well-used web resource that I almost shut down because of the time/money involved. A very limited number of people offered some financial donations, which covered about half of what it cost to host the site...enough to convince me to keep it running. But a FAR greater number of people tried to tell me where to host the site (it was already some pretty inexpensive hosting, with good features and support), what technologies to use (Why use CF when PHP is free...idiotic stuff like that), how to build it, what database to use, etc. In the end, I was almost sorry that the save the site effort even got started. Here's what we need to give Michael. Financial and moral support. PayPal him a couple of bucks. If he has a question about what sort of database to use, he'll ask it, but I don't think he did ask that question (considering he said he had a license for SQL7 that he could use), so we should all just let him get on with it. Anything more is just noise. Sorry, I just had to pipe in with my 1/50th of a buck. Pete __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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Ok - Michael, send the details for giving you money via paypal (are there details)? CFWT will send some payola to you g. Mark -Original Message- From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:37 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status Allow me to interject a word of reason here, from the perspective of someone who runs a well-used web resource that I almost shut down because of the time/money involved. A very limited number of people offered some financial donations, which covered about half of what it cost to host the site...enough to convince me to keep it running. But a FAR greater number of people tried to tell me where to host the site (it was already some pretty inexpensive hosting, with good features and support), what technologies to use (Why use CF when PHP is free...idiotic stuff like that), how to build it, what database to use, etc. In the end, I was almost sorry that the save the site effort even got started. Here's what we need to give Michael. Financial and moral support. PayPal him a couple of bucks. If he has a question about what sort of database to use, he'll ask it, but I don't think he did ask that question (considering he said he had a license for SQL7 that he could use), so we should all just let him get on with it. Anything more is just noise. Sorry, I just had to pipe in with my 1/50th of a buck. Pete __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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Still didn't hear... Michael, How many of us on this list? And do you have any stats on how many are active? __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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Sorry, Judith's sick in bed and I just got into work and online. The list membership for CF-Talk has been down reciently to 1856 members on list. If you add in the NNTP readers, archive readers and all we'd have about double that. This is the reason I want to provide better resources. To get the information to more people through more channels. My goal for the lists are to have them as lists with immediate delivery, digests on the hour on up to once a day. An archive that can be searched and posted from that will include the proper threading (message id and reference id) when a message is posed from them. An NNTP interface so that a post can go from NNTP to the list and the archives in one fell swoop. Finally, a web service interface so that other devices can get the data. This may sound like a lot of work but it's rather easy if done in steps. The staggered digests and the archive are done. Plugging a verity search into that is simple to do and automating parts of it are one of my specialties (I think I use the scheduler more than anyone else around). The posting from the archives to the list is done on the back end and just needs a nice front end for it. I wrote a new CF_MakeTree that's tighter than hell to get the threading done right. NNTP is something that I'm talking to someone about and they can comment on it if they want. Web services is just a quick CFC to the archives with no real front end. Step by step it's being done and will get done. At 11:21 AM 5/15/02, you wrote: Still didn't hear... Michael, How many of us on this list? And do you have any stats on how many are active? __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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Ok.. Putting on my board of directors hat... So, if I read things properly, we're (at best) about 3700, and at worst (if you figure 1/2 are simply not active) 900. To be conservative, we're looking at 3/4 of the actual subscriber base (not NNTP) as potential donors. That makes it about 1400. After all is said and done, you'll need more than $5000, even with the wonderful generosity of some who are donating systems (thanks guys!!). I'm guessing more like $6500. Simple math says... 6500 / 1400 = $4.64 per subscriber. Reality is, that's a perfect world scenario. But it also shows that it's not a huge issue to overcome. So, I will offer a challenge to all of whom are able to do so. Donate $200 to the fund to build up this list. If you cannot donate $200, then donate whatever you can. However, if we cut the number above in 1/2, it's about $10 each. If you cut it into 1/4, it's about $20. So, I'm willing to pay for 40 of the 1400... Anyone else? Let's move this forward quickly, and support the person/entity that has tirelessly supported us. He deserves it. Check's on the way Michael, payable to you. Lee Fuller Chief Technical Officer PrimeDNA / AAA Web Hosting Corporations | -Original Message- | From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:01 AM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: RE: [admin] List status | | | Sorry, Judith's sick in bed and I just got into work and | online. The list membership for CF-Talk has been down | reciently to 1856 members on list. If you add in the NNTP | readers, archive readers and all we'd have about double that. | This is the reason I want to provide better resources. To get | the information to more people through more channels. | My goal for the lists are to have them as lists with | immediate delivery, digests on the hour on up to once a day. | An archive that can be searched and posted from that will | include the proper threading (message id and reference id) | when a message is posed from them. An NNTP interface so that | a post can go from NNTP to the list and the archives in one | fell swoop. Finally, a web service interface so that other | devices can get the data. | This may sound like a lot of work but it's rather easy if | done in steps. The staggered digests and the archive are | done. Plugging a verity search into that is simple to do and | automating parts of it are one of my specialties (I think I | use the scheduler more than anyone else around). The posting | from the archives to the list is done on the back end and | just needs a nice front end for it. I wrote a new CF_MakeTree | that's tighter than hell to get the threading done right. | NNTP is something that I'm talking to someone about and they | can comment on it if they want. Web services is just a quick | CFC to the archives with no real front end. | Step by step it's being done and will get done. | | At 11:21 AM 5/15/02, you wrote: | Still didn't hear... | | Michael, | | How many of us on this list? And do you have any stats on | how many are | active? | | | | __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
Already gave at the paypal office - in for 75. -Original Message- From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:15 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Ok.. Putting on my board of directors hat... So, if I read things properly, we're (at best) about 3700, and at worst (if you figure 1/2 are simply not active) 900. To be conservative, we're looking at 3/4 of the actual subscriber base (not NNTP) as potential donors. That makes it about 1400. After all is said and done, you'll need more than $5000, even with the wonderful generosity of some who are donating systems (thanks guys!!). I'm guessing more like $6500. Simple math says... 6500 / 1400 = $4.64 per subscriber. Reality is, that's a perfect world scenario. But it also shows that it's not a huge issue to overcome. So, I will offer a challenge to all of whom are able to do so. Donate $200 to the fund to build up this list. If you cannot donate $200, then donate whatever you can. However, if we cut the number above in 1/2, it's about $10 each. If you cut it into 1/4, it's about $20. So, I'm willing to pay for 40 of the 1400... Anyone else? Let's move this forward quickly, and support the person/entity that has tirelessly supported us. He deserves it. Check's on the way Michael, payable to you. Lee Fuller Chief Technical Officer PrimeDNA / AAA Web Hosting Corporations | -Original Message- | From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:01 AM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: RE: [admin] List status | | | Sorry, Judith's sick in bed and I just got into work and | online. The list membership for CF-Talk has been down | reciently to 1856 members on list. If you add in the NNTP | readers, archive readers and all we'd have about double that. | This is the reason I want to provide better resources. To get | the information to more people through more channels. | My goal for the lists are to have them as lists with | immediate delivery, digests on the hour on up to once a day. | An archive that can be searched and posted from that will | include the proper threading (message id and reference id) | when a message is posed from them. An NNTP interface so that | a post can go from NNTP to the list and the archives in one | fell swoop. Finally, a web service interface so that other | devices can get the data. | This may sound like a lot of work but it's rather easy if | done in steps. The staggered digests and the archive are | done. Plugging a verity search into that is simple to do and | automating parts of it are one of my specialties (I think I | use the scheduler more than anyone else around). The posting | from the archives to the list is done on the back end and | just needs a nice front end for it. I wrote a new CF_MakeTree | that's tighter than hell to get the threading done right. | NNTP is something that I'm talking to someone about and they | can comment on it if they want. Web services is just a quick | CFC to the archives with no real front end. | Step by step it's being done and will get done. | | At 11:21 AM 5/15/02, you wrote: | Still didn't hear... | | Michael, | | How many of us on this list? And do you have any stats on | how many are | active? | | | | __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
Personally, I think that people would be more willing to donate if there was some kind of indication as to the toal amount needed (itemized) and an indicator of the amount donated. Having some kind of meter would be helpful. Something like: $10,000 -- Our goal | | $7500 | | $5000 | -- $3500 Donated so far | $2500 | | -- Also, a list of the top 10 or so contributors would be good. This way, potential donors could get an idea about what the goal is, how much is needed for the goal and the current status. The top contributors list would be a good way to thank the people that donated the most. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:14 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Ok.. Putting on my board of directors hat... So, if I read things properly, we're (at best) about 3700, and at worst (if you figure 1/2 are simply not active) 900. To be conservative, we're looking at 3/4 of the actual subscriber base (not NNTP) as potential donors. That makes it about 1400. After all is said and done, you'll need more than $5000, even with the wonderful generosity of some who are donating systems (thanks guys!!). I'm guessing more like $6500. Simple math says... 6500 / 1400 = $4.64 per subscriber. Reality is, that's a perfect world scenario. But it also shows that it's not a huge issue to overcome. So, I will offer a challenge to all of whom are able to do so. Donate $200 to the fund to build up this list. If you cannot donate $200, then donate whatever you can. However, if we cut the number above in 1/2, it's about $10 each. If you cut it into 1/4, it's about $20. So, I'm willing to pay for 40 of the 1400... Anyone else? Let's move this forward quickly, and support the person/entity that has tirelessly supported us. He deserves it. Check's on the way Michael, payable to you. Lee Fuller Chief Technical Officer PrimeDNA / AAA Web Hosting Corporations __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
Already gave at the paypal office - in for 75. what's the paypal address...I'm in. Robert Forsyth Director of Internet Operations Allbritton Communications Company (WJLA-TV) 202-364-7831 (direct) 202-364-7885 (fax) ** This transmission is intended only for the use of the addressee(s) and may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
I already gave yesterday, but I agree if we knew the costs, we could see where everyone is at and then add accordingly... I would be willing to pump in more money, if I knew where we stood! Paul Giesenhagen QuillDesign Personally, I think that people would be more willing to donate if there was some kind of indication as to the toal amount needed (itemized) and an indicator of the amount donated. Having some kind of meter would be helpful. Something like: $10,000 -- Our goal | | $7500 | | $5000 | -- $3500 Donated so far | $2500 | | -- Also, a list of the top 10 or so contributors would be good. This way, potential donors could get an idea about what the goal is, how much is needed for the goal and the current status. The top contributors list would be a good way to thank the people that donated the most. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:14 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Ok.. Putting on my board of directors hat... So, if I read things properly, we're (at best) about 3700, and at worst (if you figure 1/2 are simply not active) 900. To be conservative, we're looking at 3/4 of the actual subscriber base (not NNTP) as potential donors. That makes it about 1400. After all is said and done, you'll need more than $5000, even with the wonderful generosity of some who are donating systems (thanks guys!!). I'm guessing more like $6500. Simple math says... 6500 / 1400 = $4.64 per subscriber. Reality is, that's a perfect world scenario. But it also shows that it's not a huge issue to overcome. So, I will offer a challenge to all of whom are able to do so. Donate $200 to the fund to build up this list. If you cannot donate $200, then donate whatever you can. However, if we cut the number above in 1/2, it's about $10 each. If you cut it into 1/4, it's about $20. So, I'm willing to pay for 40 of the 1400... Anyone else? Let's move this forward quickly, and support the person/entity that has tirelessly supported us. He deserves it. Check's on the way Michael, payable to you. Lee Fuller Chief Technical Officer PrimeDNA / AAA Web Hosting Corporations __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
I propose a 10% cut, payable to myself since I'm the one who got this thread rolling after all :P Michael, your list helps in many ways. You should have a new payment in your pay pal account. Thanks again. Adam. ps. My initial post wasn't serious; just in case you had any doubts. -Original Message- From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:15 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Ok.. Putting on my board of directors hat... So, if I read things properly, we're (at best) about 3700, and at worst (if you figure 1/2 are simply not active) 900. To be conservative, we're looking at 3/4 of the actual subscriber base (not NNTP) as potential donors. That makes it about 1400. After all is said and done, you'll need more than $5000, even with the wonderful generosity of some who are donating systems (thanks guys!!). I'm guessing more like $6500. Simple math says... 6500 / 1400 = $4.64 per subscriber. Reality is, that's a perfect world scenario. But it also shows that it's not a huge issue to overcome. So, I will offer a challenge to all of whom are able to do so. Donate $200 to the fund to build up this list. If you cannot donate $200, then donate whatever you can. However, if we cut the number above in 1/2, it's about $10 each. If you cut it into 1/4, it's about $20. So, I'm willing to pay for 40 of the 1400... Anyone else? Let's move this forward quickly, and support the person/entity that has tirelessly supported us. He deserves it. Check's on the way Michael, payable to you. Lee Fuller Chief Technical Officer PrimeDNA / AAA Web Hosting Corporations | -Original Message- | From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:01 AM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: RE: [admin] List status | | | Sorry, Judith's sick in bed and I just got into work and | online. The list membership for CF-Talk has been down | reciently to 1856 members on list. If you add in the NNTP | readers, archive readers and all we'd have about double that. | This is the reason I want to provide better resources. To get | the information to more people through more channels. | My goal for the lists are to have them as lists with | immediate delivery, digests on the hour on up to once a day. | An archive that can be searched and posted from that will | include the proper threading (message id and reference id) | when a message is posed from them. An NNTP interface so that | a post can go from NNTP to the list and the archives in one | fell swoop. Finally, a web service interface so that other | devices can get the data. | This may sound like a lot of work but it's rather easy if | done in steps. The staggered digests and the archive are | done. Plugging a verity search into that is simple to do and | automating parts of it are one of my specialties (I think I | use the scheduler more than anyone else around). The posting | from the archives to the list is done on the back end and | just needs a nice front end for it. I wrote a new CF_MakeTree | that's tighter than hell to get the threading done right. | NNTP is something that I'm talking to someone about and they | can comment on it if they want. Web services is just a quick | CFC to the archives with no real front end. | Step by step it's being done and will get done. | | At 11:21 AM 5/15/02, you wrote: | Still didn't hear... | | Michael, | | How many of us on this list? And do you have any stats on | how many are | active? | | | | __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin) Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things, and what he's put in place. Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the group. But I trust Michael and his decisions. Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be hidden.. And I have NO doubt that Michael is above that. However, ANYTHING he receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we gain from this list, and ultimately his support. Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if anything. If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do with it.. I'm sure. Just my .02 | -Original Message- | From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:22 AM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE | | | Personally, I think that people would be more willing to | donate if there was some kind of indication as to the toal | amount needed | (itemized) and an indicator of the amount donated. Having | some kind of meter would be helpful. Something like: | | $10,000 -- Our goal | | | | | $7500 | | | | | $5000 | | | -- $3500 Donated so far | | | $2500 | | | | | -- | | Also, a list of the top 10 or so contributors would be good. | | This way, potential donors could get an idea about what the | goal is, how much is needed for the goal and the current status. The | top contributors list would be a good way to thank the people | that donated the most. | | Regards, | | Howie | | - Original Message - | From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:14 PM | Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE | | | Ok.. Putting on my board of directors hat... | | So, if I read things properly, we're (at best) about 3700, and at | worst (if you figure 1/2 are simply not active) 900. | | To be conservative, we're looking at 3/4 of the actual | subscriber base | (not NNTP) as potential donors. That makes it about 1400. | | After all is said and done, you'll need more than $5000, | even with the | wonderful generosity of some who are donating systems | (thanks guys!!). | I'm guessing more like $6500. | | Simple math says... | | 6500 / 1400 = $4.64 per subscriber. | | Reality is, that's a perfect world scenario. But it also | shows that | it's not a huge issue to overcome. | | So, I will offer a challenge to all of whom are able to do | so. Donate | $200 to the fund to build up this list. If you cannot donate $200, | then donate whatever you can. However, if we cut the | number above in | 1/2, it's about $10 each. If you cut it into 1/4, it's about $20. | So, I'm willing to pay for 40 of the 1400... Anyone else? | | Let's move this forward quickly, and support the person/entity that | has tirelessly supported us. He deserves it. | | Check's on the way Michael, payable to you. | | | Lee Fuller | Chief Technical Officer | PrimeDNA / AAA Web Hosting Corporations | | | | __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
I think you misread my intentions. I figured that if someone could see that the goal was not yet reached then they would be more inclined to donate. People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a goal was not reached. If, say, someone waits a few weeks before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that there were enough donations. If, however, they could see that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to donate $100. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin) Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things, and what he's put in place. Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the group. But I trust Michael and his decisions. Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be hidden.. And I have NO doubt that Michael is above that. However, ANYTHING he receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we gain from this list, and ultimately his support. Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if anything. If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do with it.. I'm sure. Just my .02 __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: [admin] List status
Hey Michael, This sounds great! Can I suggest something for the people that get the list at work? How about a weekend hiatus digest version? Something for people that read during the week but don't view the list on weekends and want to stay up with what happened with a simple digest email or two. Just a thought. I like the digest-an-hour idea...this list is great, but my inbox gets pummeled on some days. Thanks for your hard work, Ryan Kime -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:01 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status Sorry, Judith's sick in bed and I just got into work and online. The list membership for CF-Talk has been down reciently to 1856 members on list. If you add in the NNTP readers, archive readers and all we'd have about double that. This is the reason I want to provide better resources. To get the information to more people through more channels. My goal for the lists are to have them as lists with immediate delivery, digests on the hour on up to once a day. An archive that can be searched and posted from that will include the proper threading (message id and reference id) when a message is posed from them. An NNTP interface so that a post can go from NNTP to the list and the archives in one fell swoop. Finally, a web service interface so that other devices can get the data. This may sound like a lot of work but it's rather easy if done in steps. The staggered digests and the archive are done. Plugging a verity search into that is simple to do and automating parts of it are one of my specialties (I think I use the scheduler more than anyone else around). The posting from the archives to the list is done on the back end and just needs a nice front end for it. I wrote a new CF_MakeTree that's tighter than hell to get the threading done right. NNTP is something that I'm talking to someone about and they can comment on it if they want. Web services is just a quick CFC to the archives with no real front end. Step by step it's being done and will get done. __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
Very true... And in retrospect, I agree. Nonetheless, I think Michael will report whatever he gets.. So it's proabably a moot issue. | -Original Message- | From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE | | | I think you misread my intentions. I figured that if someone | could see that the goal was not yet reached then they would | be more inclined to donate. People are sometimes apathetic | and need to see that a goal was not reached. If, say, | someone waits a few weeks before donating they may throw in | 10 bucks because they may figure that there were enough | donations. If, however, they could see that the donations | were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to donate $100. | | Regards, | | Howie | | - Original Message - | From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM | Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE | | | Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin) | | Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will | report on what's left after his decisions are made about | how to handle things, | and what he's put in place. Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the | group. But I trust Michael and his decisions. | | Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be hidden.. | And I have NO doubt that Michael is above that. However, | ANYTHING he | receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless | information | we gain from this list, and ultimately his support. | | Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there | afterwards, | if anything. If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote | on what to | do with it.. I'm sure. | | Just my .02 | | | | __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR: Our goal is $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us! -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I think you misread my intentions. I figured that if someone could see that the goal was not yet reached then they would be more inclined to donate. People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a goal was not reached. If, say, someone waits a few weeks before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that there were enough donations. If, however, they could see that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to donate $100. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin) Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things, and what he's put in place. Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the group. But I trust Michael and his decisions. Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be hidden.. And I have NO doubt that Michael is above that. However, ANYTHING he receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we gain from this list, and ultimately his support. Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if anything. If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do with it.. I'm sure. Just my .02 __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
An indicator of what's been given is a good idea. I'm not so hot on publishing who gave or not for a simple reason, I don't want anyone to feel bad about not giving or giving less than anyone else. Despite my reputation as the evil one (blessed be me), I do care about others feelings. :) At 12:21 PM 5/15/02, you wrote: Personally, I think that people would be more willing to donate if there was some kind of indication as to the toal amount needed (itemized) and an indicator of the amount donated. Having some kind of meter would be helpful. Something like: $10,000 -- Our goal | | $7500 | | $5000 | -- $3500 Donated so far | $2500 | | -- Also, a list of the top 10 or so contributors would be good. This way, potential donors could get an idea about what the goal is, how much is needed for the goal and the current status. The top contributors list would be a good way to thank the people that donated the most. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:14 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Ok.. Putting on my board of directors hat... So, if I read things properly, we're (at best) about 3700, and at worst (if you figure 1/2 are simply not active) 900. To be conservative, we're looking at 3/4 of the actual subscriber base (not NNTP) as potential donors. That makes it about 1400. After all is said and done, you'll need more than $5000, even with the wonderful generosity of some who are donating systems (thanks guys!!). I'm guessing more like $6500. Simple math says... 6500 / 1400 = $4.64 per subscriber. Reality is, that's a perfect world scenario. But it also shows that it's not a huge issue to overcome. So, I will offer a challenge to all of whom are able to do so. Donate $200 to the fund to build up this list. If you cannot donate $200, then donate whatever you can. However, if we cut the number above in 1/2, it's about $10 each. If you cut it into 1/4, it's about $20. So, I'm willing to pay for 40 of the 1400... Anyone else? Let's move this forward quickly, and support the person/entity that has tirelessly supported us. He deserves it. Check's on the way Michael, payable to you. Lee Fuller Chief Technical Officer PrimeDNA / AAA Web Hosting Corporations __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
uh - excuse, I started this thread. I also just offered Michael hosting and a dedicated machine in outr environment. Tony Gruen -Original Message- From: Cantrell, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I propose a 10% cut, payable to myself since I'm the one who got this thread rolling after all :P Michael, your list helps in many ways. You should have a new payment in your pay pal account. Thanks again. Adam. ps. My initial post wasn't serious; just in case you had any doubts. -Original Message- From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:15 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Ok.. Putting on my board of directors hat... So, if I read things properly, we're (at best) about 3700, and at worst (if you figure 1/2 are simply not active) 900. To be conservative, we're looking at 3/4 of the actual subscriber base (not NNTP) as potential donors. That makes it about 1400. After all is said and done, you'll need more than $5000, even with the wonderful generosity of some who are donating systems (thanks guys!!). I'm guessing more like $6500. Simple math says... 6500 / 1400 = $4.64 per subscriber. Reality is, that's a perfect world scenario. But it also shows that it's not a huge issue to overcome. So, I will offer a challenge to all of whom are able to do so. Donate $200 to the fund to build up this list. If you cannot donate $200, then donate whatever you can. However, if we cut the number above in 1/2, it's about $10 each. If you cut it into 1/4, it's about $20. So, I'm willing to pay for 40 of the 1400... Anyone else? Let's move this forward quickly, and support the person/entity that has tirelessly supported us. He deserves it. Check's on the way Michael, payable to you. Lee Fuller Chief Technical Officer PrimeDNA / AAA Web Hosting Corporations | -Original Message- | From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:01 AM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: RE: [admin] List status | | | Sorry, Judith's sick in bed and I just got into work and | online. The list membership for CF-Talk has been down | reciently to 1856 members on list. If you add in the NNTP | readers, archive readers and all we'd have about double that. | This is the reason I want to provide better resources. To get | the information to more people through more channels. | My goal for the lists are to have them as lists with | immediate delivery, digests on the hour on up to once a day. | An archive that can be searched and posted from that will | include the proper threading (message id and reference id) | when a message is posed from them. An NNTP interface so that | a post can go from NNTP to the list and the archives in one | fell swoop. Finally, a web service interface so that other | devices can get the data. | This may sound like a lot of work but it's rather easy if | done in steps. The staggered digests and the archive are | done. Plugging a verity search into that is simple to do and | automating parts of it are one of my specialties (I think I | use the scheduler more than anyone else around). The posting | from the archives to the list is done on the back end and | just needs a nice front end for it. I wrote a new CF_MakeTree | that's tighter than hell to get the threading done right. | NNTP is something that I'm talking to someone about and they | can comment on it if they want. Web services is just a quick | CFC to the archives with no real front end. | Step by step it's being done and will get done. | | At 11:21 AM 5/15/02, you wrote: | Still didn't hear... | | Michael, | | How many of us on this list? And do you have any stats on | how many are | active? | | | | __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: [admin] List status
I wonder if Macromedia could chip in? Maybe supply some licensing for Michael? At 10:59 AM 5/15/2002 -0400, you wrote: The paypal link is: https:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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Actually, MM supplied the CF 5 server and will probably do the same for the CF MX server as well. I'm going to mention some of the projects and needs to people there but I'm not sure what'll come from it. On the other hand, I know that I'm useful to them. :) At 12:56 PM 5/15/02, you wrote: I wonder if Macromedia could chip in? Maybe supply some licensing for Michael? At 10:59 AM 5/15/2002 -0400, you wrote: The paypal link is: https:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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What didn't you like about MySQL? Was it a UI issue, a performance one or something else? I'm sure others would like to know the specifics and I definitely do. Thanks At 08:52 AM 5/15/02, you wrote: Can you say crap. :) I am not a big fan of MySQL. I have to do some work in it and it pales in comparison. -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 5:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status Can you say MySQL? g - Original Message - From: Margaret Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 6:10 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status Actually, we just priced this: It is about $5000 per cpu if you get SQL Server Standard edition and about 20,000 (not sure about this one) per cpu if you want Enterprise edition. The difference between the editions is failover and uptime tools. __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will get back to the news ha. -Original Message- From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR: Our goal is $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us! -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I think you misread my intentions. I figured that if someone could see that the goal was not yet reached then they would be more inclined to donate. People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a goal was not reached. If, say, someone waits a few weeks before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that there were enough donations. If, however, they could see that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to donate $100. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin) Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things, and what he's put in place. Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the group. But I trust Michael and his decisions. Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be hidden.. And I have NO doubt that Michael is above that. However, ANYTHING he receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we gain from this list, and ultimately his support. Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if anything. If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do with it.. I'm sure. Just my .02 __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: [admin] List status
Mike, who hosts the lists, do they have a dedicated SQL box that you could use rather than purchasing your own, or do you host the lists yourself? CFHosting has been providing out bandwidth for the last year or three. They may have a shared SQL box and I've already contacted them about some of this. -Original Message- From: David Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 7:57 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status I am not a big fan of MySQL. I have to do some work in it and it pales in comparison. Yes, but compared to the performance of MS Access how does it do? I'm just talking performance, not administration. There are admin tools out there for the front end. -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 5:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status Can you say MySQL? g - Original Message - From: Margaret Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 6:10 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status Actually, we just priced this: It is about $5000 per cpu if you get SQL Server Standard edition and about 20,000 (not sure about this one) per cpu if you want Enterprise edition. The difference between the editions is failover and uptime tools. __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: [admin] List status
We could piggy back on a SQL box that's on the same network. It all has to do with the way the archives and the lists are interacting. In reality, they're one in the same and have to be together (I think I posted the layout). Now what exactly do you mean by $500 for SQL 2k? At 09:49 AM 5/15/02, you wrote: Michael are we talking getting an actually box at your place (or where ever to do this) or you can you piggy back on an already live sql enterprise box (thats not even close to being utilized)? I am not sure how legal this might be or even if my boss would go for it, but at $500 for sql 2000 enterprise (state prices!!!) maybe something else could be done... [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 08:59AM I know that MySQL cannot really stand up to MS SQL but when you are talking about the amount that MS SQL costs versus using MySQL, I would us MySQL unless someone just wanted to pay for MS SQL. -- Clint Tredway -- Through Him, anything is possible. Can you say crap. :) I am not a big fan of MySQL. I have to do some work in it and it pales in comparison. -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 5:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status Can you say MySQL? g - Original Message - From: Margaret Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 6:10 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status Actually, we just priced this: It is about $5000 per cpu if you get SQL Server Standard edition and about 20,000 (not sure about this one) per cpu if you want Enterprise edition. The difference between the editions is failover and uptime tools. __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug, or license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will get back to the news ha. -Original Message- From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR: Our goal is $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us! -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I think you misread my intentions. I figured that if someone could see that the goal was not yet reached then they would be more inclined to donate. People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a goal was not reached. If, say, someone waits a few weeks before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that there were enough donations. If, however, they could see that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to donate $100. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin) Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things, and what he's put in place. Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the group. But I trust Michael and his decisions. Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be hidden.. And I have NO doubt that Michael is above that. However, ANYTHING he receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we gain from this list, and ultimately his support. Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if anything. If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do with it.. I'm sure. Just my .02 __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
No but you do get a copy of Bob Edwards new book My voice is smoother than yours. -Original Message- From: David Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 12:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug, or license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will get back to the news ha. -Original Message- From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR: Our goal is $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us! -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I think you misread my intentions. I figured that if someone could see that the goal was not yet reached then they would be more inclined to donate. People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a goal was not reached. If, say, someone waits a few weeks before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that there were enough donations. If, however, they could see that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to donate $100. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin) Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things, and what he's put in place. Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the group. But I trust Michael and his decisions. Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be hidden.. And I have NO doubt that Michael is above that. However, ANYTHING he receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we gain from this list, and ultimately his support. Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if anything. If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do with it.. I'm sure. Just my .02 __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: [admin] List status
Yeah - sign us up for that price (is that a vendor in the Caymen Islands or what?) -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status We could piggy back on a SQL box that's on the same network. It all has to do with the way the archives and the lists are interacting. In reality, they're one in the same and have to be together (I think I posted the layout). Now what exactly do you mean by $500 for SQL 2k? At 09:49 AM 5/15/02, you wrote: Michael are we talking getting an actually box at your place (or where ever to do this) or you can you piggy back on an already live sql enterprise box (thats not even close to being utilized)? I am not sure how legal this might be or even if my boss would go for it, but at $500 for sql 2000 enterprise (state prices!!!) maybe something else could be done... [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 08:59AM I know that MySQL cannot really stand up to MS SQL but when you are talking about the amount that MS SQL costs versus using MySQL, I would us MySQL unless someone just wanted to pay for MS SQL. -- Clint Tredway -- Through Him, anything is possible. Can you say crap. :) I am not a big fan of MySQL. I have to do some work in it and it pales in comparison. -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 5:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status Can you say MySQL? g - Original Message - From: Margaret Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 6:10 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status Actually, we just priced this: It is about $5000 per cpu if you get SQL Server Standard edition and about 20,000 (not sure about this one) per cpu if you want Enterprise edition. The difference between the editions is failover and uptime tools. __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
I missed the part where someone mentioned a paypal address? Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug, or license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will get back to the news ha. -Original Message- From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR: Our goal is $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us! -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I think you misread my intentions. I figured that if someone could see that the goal was not yet reached then they would be more inclined to donate. People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a goal was not reached. If, say, someone waits a few weeks before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that there were enough donations. If, however, they could see that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to donate $100. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin) Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things, and what he's put in place. Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the group. But I trust Michael and his decisions. Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be hidden.. And I have NO doubt that Michael is above that. However, ANYTHING he receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we gain from this list, and ultimately his support. Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if anything. If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do with it.. I'm sure. Just my .02 __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
Or you can get My Voice Annoys the Hell Out of You by Diane Rheim -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE No but you do get a copy of Bob Edwards new book My voice is smoother than yours. -Original Message- From: David Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 12:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug, or license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will get back to the news ha. -Original Message- From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR: Our goal is $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us! -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I think you misread my intentions. I figured that if someone could see that the goal was not yet reached then they would be more inclined to donate. People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a goal was not reached. If, say, someone waits a few weeks before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that there were enough donations. If, however, they could see that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to donate $100. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin) Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things, and what he's put in place. Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the group. But I trust Michael and his decisions. Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be hidden.. And I have NO doubt that Michael is above that. However, ANYTHING he receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we gain from this list, and ultimately his support. Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if anything. If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do with it.. I'm sure. Just my .02 __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been consuming that gift. Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug, or license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will get back to the news ha. -Original Message- From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR: Our goal is $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us! -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I think you misread my intentions. I figured that if someone could see that the goal was not yet reached then they would be more inclined to donate. People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a goal was not reached. If, say, someone waits a few weeks before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that there were enough donations. If, however, they could see that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to donate $100. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin) Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things, and what he's put in place. Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the group. But I trust Michael and his decisions. Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be hidden.. And I have NO doubt that Michael is above that. However, ANYTHING he receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we gain from this list, and ultimately his support. Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if anything. If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do with it.. I'm sure. Just my .02 __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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We only have to pay that for a Enterprise license (I hope I don't get in trouble for saying that out loud..its an educational/state thing). If stuff can sit somewhere else I could probably get my boss to provide space I don't know just try to help..or something [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:11PM We could piggy back on a SQL box that's on the same network. It all has to do with the way the archives and the lists are interacting. In reality, they're one in the same and have to be together (I think I posted the layout). Now what exactly do you mean by $500 for SQL 2k? At 09:49 AM 5/15/02, you wrote: Michael are we talking getting an actually box at your place (or where ever to do this) or you can you piggy back on an already live sql enterprise box (thats not even close to being utilized)? I am not sure how legal this might be or even if my boss would go for it, but at $500 for sql 2000 enterprise (state prices!!!) maybe something else could be done... [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 08:59AM I know that MySQL cannot really stand up to MS SQL but when you are talking about the amount that MS SQL costs versus using MySQL, I would us MySQL unless someone just wanted to pay for MS SQL. -- Clint Tredway -- Through Him, anything is possible. Can you say crap. :) I am not a big fan of MySQL. I have to do some work in it and it pales in comparison. -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 5:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status Can you say MySQL? g - Original Message - From: Margaret Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 6:10 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status Actually, we just priced this: It is about $5000 per cpu if you get SQL Server Standard edition and about 20,000 (not sure about this one) per cpu if you want Enterprise edition. The difference between the editions is failover and uptime tools. __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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Microsoft's academic pricing a quite low. Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 10:11AM We could piggy back on a SQL box that's on the same network. It all has to do with the way the archives and the lists are interacting. In reality, they're one in the same and have to be together (I think I posted the layout). Now what exactly do you mean by $500 for SQL 2k? At 09:49 AM 5/15/02, you wrote: Michael are we talking getting an actually box at your place (or where ever to do this) or you can you piggy back on an already live sql enterprise box (thats not even close to being utilized)? I am not sure how legal this might be or even if my boss would go for it, but at $500 for sql 2000 enterprise (state prices!!!) maybe something else could be done... [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 08:59AM I know that MySQL cannot really stand up to MS SQL but when you are talking about the amount that MS SQL costs versus using MySQL, I would us MySQL unless someone just wanted to pay for MS SQL. -- Clint Tredway -- Through Him, anything is possible. Can you say crap. :) I am not a big fan of MySQL. I have to do some work in it and it pales in comparison. -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 5:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status Can you say MySQL? g - Original Message - From: Margaret Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 6:10 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status Actually, we just priced this: It is about $5000 per cpu if you get SQL Server Standard edition and about 20,000 (not sure about this one) per cpu if you want Enterprise edition. The difference between the editions is failover and uptime tools. __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
Perhaps we should start planning the CF-Talk Expo here in Florida? Good Fortune, Richard Walters, Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (800) 604-5227 x 3525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been consuming that gift. Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug, or license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will get back to the news ha. -Original Message- From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR: Our goal is $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us! -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I think you misread my intentions. I figured that if someone could see that the goal was not yet reached then they would be more inclined to donate. People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a goal was not reached. If, say, someone waits a few weeks before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that there were enough donations. If, however, they could see that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to donate $100. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin) Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things, and what he's put in place. Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the group. But I trust Michael and his decisions. Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be hidden.. And I have NO doubt that Michael is above that. However, ANYTHING he receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we gain from this list, and ultimately his support. Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if anything. If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do with it.. I'm sure. Just my .02 __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=mdinowit%40i-2000.com We're currently at $378.23 At 01:23 PM 5/15/02, you wrote: I missed the part where someone mentioned a paypal address? Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug, or license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will get back to the news ha. -Original Message- From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR: Our goal is $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us! -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I think you misread my intentions. I figured that if someone could see that the goal was not yet reached then they would be more inclined to donate. People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a goal was not reached. If, say, someone waits a few weeks before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that there were enough donations. If, however, they could see that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to donate $100. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin) Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things, and what he's put in place. Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the group. But I trust Michael and his decisions. Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be hidden.. And I have NO doubt that Michael is above that. However, ANYTHING he receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we gain from this list, and ultimately his support. Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if anything. If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do with it.. I'm sure. Just my .02 __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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I sent my $10.. I am thankful for this list and the services that Michael provides. -- Clint Tredway -- Through Him, anything is possible. https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=mdinowit%40i-2000.com We're currently at $378.23 At 01:23 PM 5/15/02, you wrote: I missed the part where someone mentioned a paypal address? Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug, or license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will get back to the news ha. -Original Message- From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR: Our goal is $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us! -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I think you misread my intentions. I figured that if someone could see that the goal was not yet reached then they would be more inclined to donate. People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a goal was not reached. If, say, someone waits a few weeks before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that there were enough donations. If, however, they could see that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to donate $100. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin) Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things, and what he's put in place. Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the group. But I trust Michael and his decisions. Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be hidden.. And I have NO doubt that Michael is above that. However, ANYTHING he receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we gain from this list, and ultimately his support. Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if anything. If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do with it.. I'm sure. Just my .02 __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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Nah, go exotic, bring it north... to Calgary... then I don't have to travel so farLOL But then again, Florida sounds nice.. h business trip maybe. Shawn Grover -Original Message- From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:47 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Perhaps we should start planning the CF-Talk Expo here in Florida? Good Fortune, Richard Walters, Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (800) 604-5227 x 3525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been consuming that gift. Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug, or license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will get back to the news ha. -Original Message- From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR: Our goal is $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us! -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I think you misread my intentions. I figured that if someone could see that the goal was not yet reached then they would be more inclined to donate. People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a goal was not reached. If, say, someone waits a few weeks before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that there were enough donations. If, however, they could see that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to donate $100. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin) Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things, and what he's put in place. Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the group. But I trust Michael and his decisions. Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be hidden.. And I have NO doubt that Michael is above that. However, ANYTHING he receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we gain from this list, and ultimately his support. Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if anything. If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do with it.. I'm sure. Just my .02 __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth. What about Buffalo, NY? -Original Message- From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Perhaps we should start planning the CF-Talk Expo here in Florida? Good Fortune, Richard Walters, Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (800) 604-5227 x 3525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been consuming that gift. Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug, or license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will get back to the news ha. -Original Message- From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR: Our goal is $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us! -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I think you misread my intentions. I figured that if someone could see that the goal was not yet reached then they would be more inclined to donate. People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a goal was not reached. If, say, someone waits a few weeks before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that there were enough donations. If, however, they could see that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to donate $100. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin) Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things, and what he's put in place. Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the group. But I trust Michael and his decisions. Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be hidden.. And I have NO doubt that Michael is above that. However, ANYTHING he receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we gain from this list, and ultimately his support. Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if anything. If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do with it.. I'm sure. Just my .02 __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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Actually, we ran the community suite at the last MM conference and will be doing the same this year. For those who missed it, we had food, games, community speakers, about 60 or so books to raffle off and a reading library with over 20 titles. It was a blast! Of course, I have a standing offer to speak anywhere I am or can be brought to. I'll probably be in Florida around July 8th At 01:47 PM 5/15/02, you wrote: Perhaps we should start planning the CF-Talk Expo here in Florida? Good Fortune, Richard Walters, Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (800) 604-5227 x 3525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been consuming that gift. Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug, or license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will get back to the news ha. -Original Message- From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR: Our goal is $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us! -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I think you misread my intentions. I figured that if someone could see that the goal was not yet reached then they would be more inclined to donate. People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a goal was not reached. If, say, someone waits a few weeks before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that there were enough donations. If, however, they could see that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to donate $100. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin) Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things, and what he's put in place. Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the group. But I trust Michael and his decisions. Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be hidden.. And I have NO doubt that Michael is above that. However, ANYTHING he receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we gain from this list, and ultimately his support. Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if anything. If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do with it.. I'm sure. Just my .02 __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
How long does it take to get there by train from Manhatten? At 02:07 PM 5/15/02, you wrote: No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth. What about Buffalo, NY? -Original Message- From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Perhaps we should start planning the CF-Talk Expo here in Florida? Good Fortune, Richard Walters, Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (800) 604-5227 x 3525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been consuming that gift. Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug, or license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will get back to the news ha. -Original Message- From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR: Our goal is $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us! -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I think you misread my intentions. I figured that if someone could see that the goal was not yet reached then they would be more inclined to donate. People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a goal was not reached. If, say, someone waits a few weeks before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that there were enough donations. If, however, they could see that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to donate $100. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin) Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things, and what he's put in place. Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the group. But I trust Michael and his decisions. Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be hidden.. And I have NO doubt that Michael is above that. However, ANYTHING he receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we gain from this list, and ultimately his support. Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if anything. If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do with it.. I'm sure. Just my .02 __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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It'd be great for me there... better than everything running to Rochester ;) Hatton (in Snyder) Ryan Pieszak wrote: No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth. What about Buffalo, NY? -Original Message- From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Perhaps we should start planning the CF-Talk Expo here in Florida? Good Fortune, Richard Walters, Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (800) 604-5227 x 3525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been consuming that gift. Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug, or license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will get back to the news ha. -Original Message- From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR: Our goal is $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us! -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I think you misread my intentions. I figured that if someone could see that the goal was not yet reached then they would be more inclined to donate. People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a goal was not reached. If, say, someone waits a few weeks before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that there were enough donations. If, however, they could see that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to donate $100. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin) Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things, and what he's put in place. Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the group. But I trust Michael and his decisions. Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be hidden.. And I have NO doubt that Michael is above that. However, ANYTHING he receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we gain from this list, and ultimately his support. Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if anything. If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do with it.. I'm sure. Just my .02 __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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I'll think on the weekend off version. It'll be interesting. :) The big problem I had with the new digests was that you can't have a single digest a day with a huge list like CF-Talk. It gets really messy with timeouts and such. I think the slowest I'm setting it for this list is 4 times a day. Other lists can have it as once a day. Again, not perfect but better than what's here now. At 12:39 PM 5/15/02, you wrote: Hey Michael, This sounds great! Can I suggest something for the people that get the list at work? How about a weekend hiatus digest version? Something for people that read during the week but don't view the list on weekends and want to stay up with what happened with a simple digest email or two. Just a thought. I like the digest-an-hour idea...this list is great, but my inbox gets pummeled on some days. Thanks for your hard work, Ryan Kime -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:01 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status Sorry, Judith's sick in bed and I just got into work and online. The list membership for CF-Talk has been down reciently to 1856 members on list. If you add in the NNTP readers, archive readers and all we'd have about double that. This is the reason I want to provide better resources. To get the information to more people through more channels. My goal for the lists are to have them as lists with immediate delivery, digests on the hour on up to once a day. An archive that can be searched and posted from that will include the proper threading (message id and reference id) when a message is posed from them. An NNTP interface so that a post can go from NNTP to the list and the archives in one fell swoop. Finally, a web service interface so that other devices can get the data. This may sound like a lot of work but it's rather easy if done in steps. The staggered digests and the archive are done. Plugging a verity search into that is simple to do and automating parts of it are one of my specialties (I think I use the scheduler more than anyone else around). The posting from the archives to the list is done on the back end and just needs a nice front end for it. I wrote a new CF_MakeTree that's tighter than hell to get the threading done right. NNTP is something that I'm talking to someone about and they can comment on it if they want. Web services is just a quick CFC to the archives with no real front end. Step by step it's being done and will get done. __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
There was also a lot of bouncy bouncy at the community suite, if I recall... g - Original Message - From: Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:12 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Actually, we ran the community suite at the last MM conference and will be doing the same this year. For those who missed it, we had food, games, community speakers, about 60 or so books to raffle off and a reading library with over 20 titles. It was a blast! Of course, I have a standing offer to speak anywhere I am or can be brought to. I'll probably be in Florida around July 8th __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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What are you afraid of: terrorists, hurricaines, train derailments, voting scandals, tourist taxes, water shortages, impossible traffic, lightning, speaking spanish, Jimmy Buffet, or sunburn? Certainly there's nothing wrong with Florida that Jeb Bush or Janet Reno can't fix. It helps if you say that over and over. Good Fortune, Richard Walters, Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (800) 604-5227 x 3525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 02:07PM No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth. What about Buffalo, NY? -Original Message- From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Perhaps we should start planning the CF-Talk Expo here in Florida? Good Fortune, Richard Walters, Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (800) 604-5227 x 3525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been consuming that gift. Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug, or license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will get back to the news ha. -Original Message- From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR: Our goal is $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us! -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I think you misread my intentions. I figured that if someone could see that the goal was not yet reached then they would be more inclined to donate. People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a goal was not reached. If, say, someone waits a few weeks before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that there were enough donations. If, however, they could see that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to donate $100. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin) Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things, and what he's put in place. Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the group. But I trust Michael and his decisions. Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be hidden.. And I have NO doubt that Michael is above that. However, ANYTHING he receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we gain from this list, and ultimately his support. Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if anything. If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do with it.. I'm sure. Just my .02 __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
hmmm?? When is the MM Confrence this year? Paul Giesenhagen QuillDesign There was also a lot of bouncy bouncy at the community suite, if I recall... g - Original Message - From: Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:12 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Actually, we ran the community suite at the last MM conference and will be doing the same this year. For those who missed it, we had food, games, community speakers, about 60 or so books to raffle off and a reading library with over 20 titles. It was a blast! Of course, I have a standing offer to speak anywhere I am or can be brought to. I'll probably be in Florida around July 8th __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
I went by train from Orlando to NY back in like 93. I think it took like 30 hours. Tim Heald ACP/CCFD :) Application Development www.schoollink.net -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:15 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE How long does it take to get there by train from Manhatten? At 02:07 PM 5/15/02, you wrote: No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth. What about Buffalo, NY? -Original Message- From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Perhaps we should start planning the CF-Talk Expo here in Florida? Good Fortune, Richard Walters, Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (800) 604-5227 x 3525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been consuming that gift. Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug, or license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will get back to the news ha. -Original Message- From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR: Our goal is $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us! -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I think you misread my intentions. I figured that if someone could see that the goal was not yet reached then they would be more inclined to donate. People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a goal was not reached. If, say, someone waits a few weeks before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that there were enough donations. If, however, they could see that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to donate $100. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin) Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things, and what he's put in place. Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the group. But I trust Michael and his decisions. Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be hidden.. And I have NO doubt that Michael is above that. However, ANYTHING he receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we gain from this list, and ultimately his support. Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if anything. If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do with it.. I'm sure. Just my .02 __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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There is a new higher res version out now... :) - Original Message - From: Howie Hamlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE There was also a lot of bouncy bouncy at the community suite, if I recall... g __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
Actually I am afraid of getting run over by one of the thousands of old people driving that can't see 10 feet in front of themselves and can't remember where they are going. -Original Message- From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE What are you afraid of: terrorists, hurricaines, train derailments, voting scandals, tourist taxes, water shortages, impossible traffic, lightning, speaking spanish, Jimmy Buffet, or sunburn? Certainly there's nothing wrong with Florida that Jeb Bush or Janet Reno can't fix. It helps if you say that over and over. Good Fortune, Richard Walters, Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (800) 604-5227 x 3525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 02:07PM No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth. What about Buffalo, NY? -Original Message- From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Perhaps we should start planning the CF-Talk Expo here in Florida? Good Fortune, Richard Walters, Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (800) 604-5227 x 3525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been consuming that gift. Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug, or license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will get back to the news ha. -Original Message- From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR: Our goal is $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us! -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I think you misread my intentions. I figured that if someone could see that the goal was not yet reached then they would be more inclined to donate. People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a goal was not reached. If, say, someone waits a few weeks before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that there were enough donations. If, however, they could see that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to donate $100. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin) Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things, and what he's put in place. Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the group. But I trust Michael and his decisions. Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be hidden.. And I have NO doubt that Michael is above that. However, ANYTHING he receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we gain from this list, and ultimately his support. Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if anything. If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do with it.. I'm sure. Just my .02 __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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October 27... http://www.macromedia.com/v1/conference/ Regards, -- Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager On-Line Data Solutions, Inc. - www.CoolFusion.com - 631-737-4668 x101 inFusion Mail Server (iMS) - The Award-winning, Intelligent Mail Server Find out how iMS Stacks up to the competition: http://www.coolfusion.com/imssecomparison.cfm - Original Message - From: Paul Giesenhagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE hmmm?? When is the MM Confrence this year? Paul Giesenhagen QuillDesign __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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That was the most surprising part of it all. We turned the game on and a female programmer walked through the door every time. And no one was upset or anything about the content. It was just a place to 'hang' with your people. At 02:17 PM 5/15/02, you wrote: There was also a lot of bouncy bouncy at the community suite, if I recall... g - Original Message - From: Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:12 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Actually, we ran the community suite at the last MM conference and will be doing the same this year. For those who missed it, we had food, games, community speakers, about 60 or so books to raffle off and a reading library with over 20 titles. It was a blast! Of course, I have a standing offer to speak anywhere I am or can be brought to. I'll probably be in Florida around July 8th __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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Actually, I wasn't serious. The big joke here in Buffalo is that nobody comes here on purpose, that nobody wants to be here, it's a rotting city. If anybody *actually* wants this CF-Talk Expo to be held in Buffalo, you'll have to let me know what you need. Is this something that's been done in the past? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:15 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE It'd be great for me there... better than everything running to Rochester ;) Hatton (in Snyder) Ryan Pieszak wrote: No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth. What about Buffalo, NY? -Original Message- From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Perhaps we should start planning the CF-Talk Expo here in Florida? Good Fortune, Richard Walters, Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (800) 604-5227 x 3525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been consuming that gift. Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug, or license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will get back to the news ha. -Original Message- From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR: Our goal is $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us! -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I think you misread my intentions. I figured that if someone could see that the goal was not yet reached then they would be more inclined to donate. People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a goal was not reached. If, say, someone waits a few weeks before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that there were enough donations. If, however, they could see that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to donate $100. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin) Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things, and what he's put in place. Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the group. But I trust Michael and his decisions. Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be hidden.. And I have NO doubt that Michael is above that. However, ANYTHING he receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we gain from this list, and ultimately his support. Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if anything. If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do with it.. I'm sure. Just my .02 __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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Yeah the only thing worth it in Buffalo was the Rob Johnson, Doug Flutie controversyand I dont even live there :) - Original Message - From: Ryan Pieszak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:28 AM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Actually, I wasn't serious. The big joke here in Buffalo is that nobody comes here on purpose, that nobody wants to be here, it's a rotting city. If anybody *actually* wants this CF-Talk Expo to be held in Buffalo, you'll have to let me know what you need. Is this something that's been done in the past? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:15 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE It'd be great for me there... better than everything running to Rochester ;) Hatton (in Snyder) Ryan Pieszak wrote: No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth. What about Buffalo, NY? -Original Message- From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Perhaps we should start planning the CF-Talk Expo here in Florida? Good Fortune, Richard Walters, Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (800) 604-5227 x 3525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been consuming that gift. Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug, or license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will get back to the news ha. -Original Message- From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR: Our goal is $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us! -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I think you misread my intentions. I figured that if someone could see that the goal was not yet reached then they would be more inclined to donate. People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a goal was not reached. If, say, someone waits a few weeks before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that there were enough donations. If, however, they could see that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to donate $100. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin) Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things, and what he's put in place. Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the group. But I trust Michael and his decisions. Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be hidden.. And I have NO doubt that Michael is above that. However, ANYTHING he receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we gain from this list, and ultimately his support. Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if anything. If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do with it.. I'm sure. Just my .02 __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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http://www.macromedia.com/v1/conference/ October 27-30, 2002 At 02:22 PM 5/15/02, you wrote: hmmm?? When is the MM Confrence this year? Paul Giesenhagen QuillDesign There was also a lot of bouncy bouncy at the community suite, if I recall... g - Original Message - From: Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:12 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Actually, we ran the community suite at the last MM conference and will be doing the same this year. For those who missed it, we had food, games, community speakers, about 60 or so books to raffle off and a reading library with over 20 titles. It was a blast! Of course, I have a standing offer to speak anywhere I am or can be brought to. I'll probably be in Florida around July 8th __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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Yeah, we're glad those days are FAR behind us. Now we're looking Super Bowl with Bledsoe in charge. But this is off topic, sorry... Real question now...where can I send a payment for this list if I'm not part of PayPal? Maybe just send a personal check or something? Thanks. -Original Message- From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:36 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Yeah the only thing worth it in Buffalo was the Rob Johnson, Doug Flutie controversyand I dont even live there :) - Original Message - From: Ryan Pieszak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:28 AM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Actually, I wasn't serious. The big joke here in Buffalo is that nobody comes here on purpose, that nobody wants to be here, it's a rotting city. If anybody *actually* wants this CF-Talk Expo to be held in Buffalo, you'll have to let me know what you need. Is this something that's been done in the past? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:15 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE It'd be great for me there... better than everything running to Rochester ;) Hatton (in Snyder) Ryan Pieszak wrote: No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth. What about Buffalo, NY? -Original Message- From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Perhaps we should start planning the CF-Talk Expo here in Florida? Good Fortune, Richard Walters, Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (800) 604-5227 x 3525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been consuming that gift. Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug, or license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will get back to the news ha. -Original Message- From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR: Our goal is $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us! -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE I think you misread my intentions. I figured that if someone could see that the goal was not yet reached then they would be more inclined to donate. People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a goal was not reached. If, say, someone waits a few weeks before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that there were enough donations. If, however, they could see that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to donate $100. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! grin) Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things, and what he's put in place. Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the group. But I trust Michael and his decisions. Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be hidden.. And I have NO doubt that Michael is above that. However, ANYTHING he receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we gain from this list, and ultimately his support. Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if anything. If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do with it.. I'm sure. Just my .02 __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
