Re: cfeclipse + phpeclipse?
Create a new Project in CFEclipse -> Plugin-Project and go from there ;) I got hooked... ahhh.. the first time is always the sweetest.. err.. for coding eclipse plugins of course.. ehem Mark Drew On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 22:04:47 -0500, Lewis Sellers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wow. That is hidden... and convoluted. But it looks like it will work > (and could be powerful). > > Makes me wonder though ... ... just how difficult it would be to start > making my own plug-ins. Hmm. :) > > Thanks. > > > Rob wrote: > > The somewhat hidden way to do that with eclipse is to do > > Search>Search... from the main tool bar. then at the bottom of the > > windows is "Scope" - I select selected Resource (after having chosen > > the project root in the navigator view), but if you only have one > > project open you can choose Workspace. Then at the very bottom is > > "replace..." clicking that will run the search then ask if you want to > > replace, and with what. > > > > Bit hidden, but does the same thing. As for a cool studio style find > > and replace plugin I haven't seen one. > > > > Rob > > > > On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 16:56:09 -0500, Lewis Sellers > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>Speaking of eclipse ... I've been keeping a copy of Homesite around just > >>explicity for it's global file replace feature. I occasionally want to > >>change a string of text that might might be repeated in dozen or so > >>files and this handy. > >> > >>Has anyone sighted such a feature or plugin for eclipse? > >> > >>-- > >>--Lewis Sellers (AKA min) > >>Intrafoundation Software > >>http://www.intrafoundation.com > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - RUWebby http://www.ruwebby.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:188186 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfeclipse + phpeclipse?
Wow. That is hidden... and convoluted. But it looks like it will work (and could be powerful). Makes me wonder though ... ... just how difficult it would be to start making my own plug-ins. Hmm. :) Thanks. > Rob wrote: > The somewhat hidden way to do that with eclipse is to do > Search>Search... from the main tool bar. then at the bottom of the > windows is "Scope" - I select selected Resource (after having chosen > the project root in the navigator view), but if you only have one > project open you can choose Workspace. Then at the very bottom is > "replace..." clicking that will run the search then ask if you want to > replace, and with what. > > Bit hidden, but does the same thing. As for a cool studio style find > and replace plugin I haven't seen one. > > Rob > > On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 16:56:09 -0500, Lewis Sellers > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Speaking of eclipse ... I've been keeping a copy of Homesite around just >>explicity for it's global file replace feature. I occasionally want to >>change a string of text that might might be repeated in dozen or so >>files and this handy. >> >>Has anyone sighted such a feature or plugin for eclipse? >> >>-- >>--Lewis Sellers (AKA min) >>Intrafoundation Software >>http://www.intrafoundation.com >> >> > > > ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - CFDynamics http://www.cfdynamics.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:188180 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfeclipse + phpeclipse?
The somewhat hidden way to do that with eclipse is to do Search>Search... from the main tool bar. then at the bottom of the windows is "Scope" - I select selected Resource (after having chosen the project root in the navigator view), but if you only have one project open you can choose Workspace. Then at the very bottom is "replace..." clicking that will run the search then ask if you want to replace, and with what. Bit hidden, but does the same thing. As for a cool studio style find and replace plugin I haven't seen one. Rob On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 16:56:09 -0500, Lewis Sellers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Speaking of eclipse ... I've been keeping a copy of Homesite around just > explicity for it's global file replace feature. I occasionally want to > change a string of text that might might be repeated in dozen or so > files and this handy. > > Has anyone sighted such a feature or plugin for eclipse? > > -- > --Lewis Sellers (AKA min) > Intrafoundation Software > http://www.intrafoundation.com > > ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - CFDynamics http://www.cfdynamics.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:188179 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfeclipse + phpeclipse?
On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:37:12 +0800, Kay Smoljak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also projects. The first thing I wanted to do after installing > CFEclipse was open a file and start editing it but I had to jump > through a whole stack of hoops first. It's funny because for a long time I'd used DW and was always a bit annoyed that I needed a site defined to edit anything but gradually I got used to it and found that I actually *did* have sites defined for anywhere that I had CF code... Then DW sprouted the ability to edit files *without* a site... and I've used it maybe half a dozen times. So when I switched to Eclipse, the project-based approach was just like the site-based approach I was used to. And with Spike's File Explorer I have exactly the same functionality that I had with DW for those odd occasions that I wanted to edit a file outside a project. I tend to have Eclipse open 24x7 so I never find myself double-clicking a file in the (Windows) Explorer / (Mac) Finder to edit a file - I just switch to Eclipse and navigate to the file in the Navigator or File Explorer panel. But, yes, the whole view / perspective thing is a bit strange to start with (and "natures" are yet another weirdness). That's the downside of a very, very flexible product like Eclipse and it was part of what RichPalette were trying to do with He3 - hide the complexity. -- Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://www.fusebox.org/ Breeze Me! -- http://www.corfield.org/breezeme "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:188177 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfeclipse + phpeclipse?
On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 10:56:56 -0500, Lewis Sellers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Perspectives" and the way it handes file types is rather confusing to > say the least. It's the most annoying/unintuitive part of the program > for me. Also projects. The first thing I wanted to do after installing CFEclipse was open a file and start editing it but I had to jump through a whole stack of hoops first. Are there any tutorials on getting started with Eclipse that walk through all these concepts for beginners? -- Kay Smoljak http://kay.smoljak.com/ ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - CFDynamics http://www.cfdynamics.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:188172 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfeclipse + phpeclipse?
Speaking of eclipse ... I've been keeping a copy of Homesite around just explicity for it's global file replace feature. I occasionally want to change a string of text that might might be repeated in dozen or so files and this handy. Has anyone sighted such a feature or plugin for eclipse? -- --Lewis Sellers (AKA min) Intrafoundation Software http://www.intrafoundation.com ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - New Atlanta http://www.newatlanta.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:188162 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfeclipse + phpeclipse?
" Yes I do understand that your project is the CFML plug in but the idea of a single tool to handle CFML, CFCs, and XML was one of the main attractions for me" It *is* a single tool though Mike. That's Eclipse itself...the plug-ins are generally specific to a set of closely related tasks. As for XML plug-in there are a couple of freebies you can toss in...You can then customize your display with aspects of any plug-in and have a single UI with all features. -Stace -Original Message- From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 4:42 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfeclipse + phpeclipse? Thanks Rob, I'm disappointed that it doesnt handle XML files other than the way a text editor does. I had the impression since there's a XML plugin, that it had XML productivity features. (Yes I do understand that your project is the CFML plug in but the idea of a single tool to handle CFML, CFCs, and XML was one of the main attractions for me). As to the videos, I'm not worried about the low budget. In fact I think it makes them better in a way. I do a weekly radio show on a community (volunteer run) FM station and I reackon our shows are better than the ones on the commercial stations too. I had Eclipse going, and was able to pick from a dropdown menu of perspectives, so I assumed Eclipse had installed ok and went on to the next step- getting the CF plug-in. After I updated teh product with the CFEclipse plugin, the perspectives view only displays "Other" When I select "other" (easy decision since that's the only option) I get a dialog box of sorts that offers the choices of perspectives to choose from, but no matter which one I choose, nothing happens. Opening a file by using "File>Open>" I can open another file (as long as it's not XML) and the file opens, but all the other panes remain unchanged. The window is very bare (but the working space is not full-screen) and not at all like the one in the videos. There's a blank "navigator" panel on the left and an empty outline panel on the right. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com .com,.net,.org domains from AUD$20/Year On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 00:54:32 -0800, Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:33:43 +1100, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks Mark, I've seen those. Rob's obviously enthusiastic about the > > product, even if he seems pretty unenthusiastic about making the > > videos. > > I like making the videos. I feel all famous and stuff - even though I > kinda suck. > > >And in half of them the sound is barely audible so it > > renders that video unusable for me I'm afraid. > > Yeah sorry about that I can't afford a decent mic, and as I am sure > you guessed we have a limited budget. Turn up your volume really > really high :) > > >But full marks for > > doing them. I've never seen any software product that came with videos > > before. > > > > But my problem is that my installation doesnt look like the one in the > > videos. The XML stuff is not present. > > CFEclipse doesnt really do XML. XMLBuddy is a good plug-in for xml. > CFEclipse is for cfml (cfc) files > > > Once i've installed the > > CFEclipse stuff, nothing else is available. > > Um... can you be more specific? I think you may be getting lost in the > perspectives / views, but the only thing I can point you to is the > videos :( > > > Try to open a Xml file > > it wants to open another copy of CFEclipse and complains that the > > workspace is already in use. Wel DER! its in use with the copy I > > wanted this file to open into > > Again, cfeclipse is just for cfml files by default. In Eclipse when > you double click on a file and eclipse doesnt know what to do with it > it launches the default system editor. Try installing the XMLBuddy > plug-in for XML files. > > > And none of the XML is visible, even after I've followed someone > > else's suggestion and got an update for the XML plugin. > > Now I am confused. > > > Could it be that the installatoin routine (such that it is) isnt > > equipped to handle WinXPPro SP2? > > Nah it works find on winders. Spike (and I think Ollie) both use > windows to develop on. I am the only one who uses it on Mac (well, not > the *only* one, but the only one of the three) > > What happens when you open a .cfm or .cfc file? > > -- ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - New Atlanta http://www.newatlanta.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:188160 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfeclipse + phpeclipse?
> Intersting, I've never had problems getting them to work, but I do > recall tinkering from time to time which I am sure is the problem. > > The CFEclipse project, and I know you are refering to Eclipse in > general, wasn't started to make a full on IDE, but to add CFML Support > to Eclipse. Understood, and I personally think CFEclipse is great at what it does. That said, I switch tasks constantly all day so I really need an all purpose text editor more than an IDE. Eclipse (with various sundry plug-ins) is about 85% of the way there for me. Believe it or not, one of my favorite features of HomeSite is the dual file explorer because it allows me to switch to a different task without losing my place in the file system. I just wish HomeSite would let me create n number of file manager instances. > He3 was going to / is making a CFML IDE, but pehaps I'll > bundle some up. Mark Drew and I were just talking about it, but I > don't think it would be wise to burnded the CFEclipse project with > bundling an IDE on top of everything else. I agree. I was just trying to give a little perspective from someone who really wants to use Eclipse/CFEclipse for daily chores but can't quite make the switch -- yet. > Interesting... do you have a blog somewhere or can you post what > troubles you have had either to the cfeclipse mailing list or me > directly? I'd like to try to limit the issuse people are having with > Eclipse in general as much as I can so people dont get too much of a > bad taste :) That's greatly appreciated. I actually gave Eclipse a shot before CFEclipse existed but didn't make it nearly as far as I did once you guys started work on CFEclipse. Your work is greatly appreciated. > I'll try to build a quick informal bare bones eclipse .dmg with the > following support: > CFML, JS, CSS, Basic XML (cant use xmlbuddy its commerical). I'll list > the steps if you don't yet have a Mac ;) if you think that'll help. Don't go out of your way. I actually just started a new instance of Eclipse (because of this conversation). I downloaded the non-SDK version this time. I program very little Java, and it seem like the non-SDK version takes up much less RAM and runs faster (two other issues I have with Eclipse). I'll report back issues as I run into them. > Open source guys are not marketing guys, so often the versions do not > reflect the maturity of the project. Hell Apache was a 1.3 just a bit > ago now they are at 2. Its often the marketing people who want to jack > the version up to give a false sense of maturity I agree in general, but I think that it really depends on the plug-in. The ones I mention seem to run the gamut. > Well cfeclipse is comming up on its 1 year birthday, and it can be use > daily for sure there are a lot of people doing just that. I didn't mean to suggest otherwise. In fact, I think CFEclipse goes a long way towards making Eclipse usable for me. > I think the > main hangup is getting it all setup correctly, which again, is not a > cfeclipse duity - but the cfeclipse mailing list and the side projects > that may be coming up might fix a lot of that I agree, and I'm looking forward to it. > Thanks for trying it out Ben, if you give it another go, join the > cfeclipse mailing list and we'll try to get you going. Will do. I'm already subscribed to many mailing lists. I get roughly 1000 (legitimate) messages a day. So, I try to be careful about which lists I join. As long as general (though related) Eclipse questions are tolerated, I think the cfeclipse list would be a good one to join. Thanks. Ben Rogers http://www.c4.net v.508.240.0051 f.508.240.0057 ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:188158 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfeclipse + phpeclipse?
On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 11:29:34 -0500, Ben Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well Eclipse can do most any kind of file so it is a single tool just > > like you want. I use it for Java, JSP, CFML, C++, XML, PHP, and SQL > > almost daily. > > > > But the CFEclipse part is just for cfml. There is a C# > > plug-in, a XML plug-in, a regular expression plugin, an xpath plugin > > (the list goes on and on and on). The reason eclipse is so cool is > > that the work is broken up between the different plugins - meaning no > > one plugin does everything. > > For some of us, I think the abstraction between Eclipse the SDK and Eclipse > the IDE is not a very meaningful one in the practical sense. Certainly, we > like the idea of an editor that can be extended with commercial and open > source third party plug-ins. However, if we can't get the various plug-ins > installed -- those we happen to consider necessary -- Eclipse is not very > useful to us. > > I can't speak for Mike, but I've had a great deal of difficulty adding > support for many of the languages and applications that I routinely use. > Those languages include CFML, ASP, SQL, HTML, > JavaScript/Jscript/ActionScript, XML, Java, and VBScript. Though I've found > individual plug-ins for each, I have yet to get support for all of these > languages installed and working simultaneously. Intersting, I've never had problems getting them to work, but I do recall tinkering from time to time which I am sure is the problem. The CFEclipse project, and I know you are refering to Eclipse in general, wasn't started to make a full on IDE, but to add CFML Support to Eclipse. He3 was going to / is making a CFML IDE, but pehaps I'll bundle some up. Mark Drew and I were just talking about it, but I don't think it would be wise to burnded the CFEclipse project with bundling an IDE on top of everything else. > By that I mean that every time I install Eclipse (about 10 attempts so far > or three different computers), I download various plug-ins. Several of the > plug-ins are recommended on the CFEclipse page. Invariably, one or two of > the plug-ins causes issues, though it seems to be different plug-ins each > time, which leads me to believe that the install order has something to do > with it. Interesting... do you have a blog somewhere or can you post what troubles you have had either to the cfeclipse mailing list or me directly? I'd like to try to limit the issuse people are having with Eclipse in general as much as I can so people dont get too much of a bad taste :) > I've started keeping local copies of various versions of each plug-in. I try > to store them by whether or not they seem to play well with the other > plug-ins I have installed. Still, I haven't quite achieved a stable, > functional Eclipse. > > For reference, the plug-ins that I've tried recently include: > > - cfecplise > - dbedit, dbexplorer, and jfacedb and quantum for database connectivity > - espell for spell checking > - eclipsetidy > - csseditor for CSS > - logwatcher > - subclipse for Subversion > - xmlbuddy and xmleditor for XML > - jseditor for JavaScript > - eclipsecolorer for classic ASP and various other languages I'll try to build a quick informal bare bones eclipse .dmg with the following support: CFML, JS, CSS, Basic XML (cant use xmlbuddy its commerical). I'll list the steps if you don't yet have a Mac ;) if you think that'll help. > Many of these plug-ins are still at a pre-version 1 release state. In fact, > most Eclipse plug-ins in general seem to be pre-version 1. Others haven't > been around for a very long time or were just recently ported Eclipse 3. So, > maybe this is all to be expected. Nevertheless, finding a working > combination of plug-ins for Eclipse can be a long tedious process for some > of us. Open source guys are not marketing guys, so often the versions do not reflect the maturity of the project. Hell Apache was a 1.3 just a bit ago now they are at 2. Its often the marketing people who want to jack the version up to give a false sense of matruity > Anyway, I think Eclipse is a great idea, and I really -- really -- like the > work going into CFEclipse. Unfortunately, I'm not able to use Eclipse for my > daily tasks quite yet. But, if the rate of progress on just the CFEclipse > plug-in is any sign, I have a hunch that this time next year, I'll have a > radically different opinion. Well cfeclipse is comming up on its 1 year birthday, and it can be use daily for sure there are a lot of people doing just that. I think the main hangup is getting it all setup correctly, which again, is not a cfeclipse duity - but the cfeclipse mailing list and the side projects that may be coming up might fix a lot of that Thanks for trying it out Ben, if you give it another go, join the cfeclipse mailing list and we'll try to get you going. Cheers, Rob -- ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~ http://cfeclipse.tigris.org ~open source xslt IDE~ http://treebeard.s
RE: cfeclipse + phpeclipse?
These are both very good points. There are a few definitions in Eclipse that you have to come to grips with first. Once you understand them, you might still think it's kind of bizarre (I do), but understanding these will at least get you over the first couple of hurdles. Plug-ins are pretty easy to install (even if they can be troublesome to get working). However, as Lewis notes, you have to understand the basic Eclipse directory structure to install many of the plug-ins. Some of the plug-ins actually assume that you've installed Eclipse in a directory called "eclipse". For example, assuming you have extracted Eclipse to a directory called eclipse, the path to your plug-ins directory will look something like this (on Windows): C:\eclipse\plugins\ Individual plug-ins will each have their own directory under the plug-ins directory. They are named using the tld.domain.project naming convention followed by an underscore and version number. So the 1.1.16 version of CFEclipse will be in a directory called: com.rohanclan.cfml_1.1.16 What I usually do is download the plug-in to a neutral place like my desktop. I then extract the plug-in to a sub-directory of the same name. You'll usually end up with one of three different directory structures: tld.domain.project_0.0.0\ plugins\tld.domain.project_0.0.0\ eclipse\plugins\tld.domain.project_0.0.0\ Identify which you have and then copy the files over accordingly. Meaning, if you have the first, copy the tld.domain.project_0.0.0 directory into the C:\eclipse\plugins\ directory. If you have the second, drag the plugins folder (and any others such as features or configuration), into the eclipse installation director, C:\eclipse\. If you have the latter, switch to the eclipse directory and do the same. I believe plug-ins can also be distributed in jar form (tld.domain.project_0.0.0.jar). I think you drop these files right in the plugins directory, but I'm not too sure about this. Ben Rogers http://www.c4.net v.508.240.0051 f.508.240.0057 > -Original Message- > From: Lewis Sellers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 10:57 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: cfeclipse + phpeclipse? > > > > > I have installed the XML plugin - well at least I THOUGHT I had - but > > it's not available in the dialog box when you select Window>Show > > Perspective>Other. When you DO select anything out of that menu, > > nothing moves. Certainly nothing like in the video. > > "Perspectives" and the way it handes file types is rather confusing to > say the least. It's the most annoying/unintuitive part of the program > for me. > > As for the plugins, if you're doing it manually, check to be sure you're > unzipping them into the correct folders. The zips vary with what they > assume is the relative folder structure. > > > -- > --Lewis Sellers (AKA min) > Intrafoundation Software > http://www.intrafoundation.com > > ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:188151 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfeclipse + phpeclipse?
> Well Eclipse can do most any kind of file so it is a single tool just > like you want. I use it for Java, JSP, CFML, C++, XML, PHP, and SQL > almost daily. > > But the CFEclipse part is just for cfml. There is a C# > plug-in, a XML plug-in, a regular expression plugin, an xpath plugin > (the list goes on and on and on). The reason eclipse is so cool is > that the work is broken up between the different plugins - meaning no > one plugin does everything. For some of us, I think the abstraction between Eclipse the SDK and Eclipse the IDE is not a very meaningful one in the practical sense. Certainly, we like the idea of an editor that can be extended with commercial and open source third party plug-ins. However, if we can't get the various plug-ins installed -- those we happen to consider necessary -- Eclipse is not very useful to us. I can't speak for Mike, but I've had a great deal of difficulty adding support for many of the languages and applications that I routinely use. Those languages include CFML, ASP, SQL, HTML, JavaScript/Jscript/ActionScript, XML, Java, and VBScript. Though I've found individual plug-ins for each, I have yet to get support for all of these languages installed and working simultaneously. By that I mean that every time I install Eclipse (about 10 attempts so far or three different computers), I download various plug-ins. Several of the plug-ins are recommended on the CFEclipse page. Invariably, one or two of the plug-ins causes issues, though it seems to be different plug-ins each time, which leads me to believe that the install order has something to do with it. I've started keeping local copies of various versions of each plug-in. I try to store them by whether or not they seem to play well with the other plug-ins I have installed. Still, I haven't quite achieved a stable, functional Eclipse. For reference, the plug-ins that I've tried recently include: - cfecplise - dbedit, dbexplorer, and jfacedb and quantum for database connectivity - espell for spell checking - eclipsetidy - csseditor for CSS - logwatcher - subclipse for Subversion - xmlbuddy and xmleditor for XML - jseditor for JavaScript - eclipsecolorer for classic ASP and various other languages Many of these plug-ins are still at a pre-version 1 release state. In fact, most Eclipse plug-ins in general seem to be pre-version 1. Others haven't been around for a very long time or were just recently ported Eclipse 3. So, maybe this is all to be expected. Nevertheless, finding a working combination of plug-ins for Eclipse can be a long tedious process for some of us. Anyway, I think Eclipse is a great idea, and I really -- really -- like the work going into CFEclipse. Unfortunately, I'm not able to use Eclipse for my daily tasks quite yet. But, if the rate of progress on just the CFEclipse plug-in is any sign, I have a hunch that this time next year, I'll have a radically different opinion. Ben Rogers http://www.c4.net v.508.240.0051 f.508.240.0057 ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:188150 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfeclipse + phpeclipse?
> > I have installed the XML plugin - well at least I THOUGHT I had - but > it's not available in the dialog box when you select Window>Show > Perspective>Other. When you DO select anything out of that menu, > nothing moves. Certainly nothing like in the video. "Perspectives" and the way it handes file types is rather confusing to say the least. It's the most annoying/unintuitive part of the program for me. As for the plugins, if you're doing it manually, check to be sure you're unzipping them into the correct folders. The zips vary with what they assume is the relative folder structure. -- --Lewis Sellers (AKA min) Intrafoundation Software http://www.intrafoundation.com ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - CFDynamics http://www.cfdynamics.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:188144 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfeclipse + phpeclipse?
> CFEclipse doesnt really do XML. XMLBuddy is a good plug-in for xml. > CFEclipse is for cfml (cfc) files I tried XML Buddy. Feature wise, it is pretty nice. However, it seems to die on large UTF-16 encoded XML files. I'm not sure if it's the file size (over 1 meg) or the encoding, but these files crash Eclipse every time. So, now I'm back to VisualStudio 2003 for XML documents. Ben Rogers http://www.c4.net v.508.240.0051 f.508.240.0057 ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - New Atlanta http://www.newatlanta.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:188143 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfeclipse + phpeclipse?
On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 21:33:25 +1100, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rob I had decided to give up on it 5 minutes ago, then your reply > arrived with some productive looking suggestions so I'll give it a bit > more effort. > > I have installed the XML plugin - well at least I THOUGHT I had - but > it's not available in the dialog box when you select Window>Show > Perspective>Other. When you DO select anything out of that menu, > nothing moves. Certainly nothing like in the video. > > As you suggest I'll join that list, and see where that leads me, and > report back here once it's all sorted out. Dont want to leave the > CF-TALK list with it all up in the air. We'll help you get it sorted over there much faster I think - it's also a better forum for cfeclipse specific stuff. I said I wouldn't talk about cfeclipse on this list anymore - and I have been so I suck - but I try to keep it to a minimum. > (Oh and my radio show is a 3 hour bluegrass show - see a bit about it > at http://atalkingdog.com - it's broadcast live on 89.9FM in Sydney > and rebroadcast 10 times a week on http://bluegrasscountry.org) My girlfriend - well my bride-to-be now - loves bluegrass amongst other things. I'll pass her the link There are people from all over on the list so someone is bound to be waking up; however, I am about to crash (its like 3am) so I'll check out anything you post tonight in the morrow. Cheers, rob -- ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~ http://cfeclipse.tigris.org ~open source xslt IDE~ http://treebeard.sourceforge.net ~open source XML database~ http://ashpool.sourceforge.net ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:188134 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfeclipse + phpeclipse?
Rob I had decided to give up on it 5 minutes ago, then your reply arrived with some productive looking suggestions so I'll give it a bit more effort. I have installed the XML plugin - well at least I THOUGHT I had - but it's not available in the dialog box when you select Window>Show Perspective>Other. When you DO select anything out of that menu, nothing moves. Certainly nothing like in the video. As you suggest I'll join that list, and see where that leads me, and report back here once it's all sorted out. Dont want to leave the CF-TALK list with it all up in the air. (Oh and my radio show is a 3 hour bluegrass show - see a bit about it at http://atalkingdog.com - it's broadcast live on 89.9FM in Sydney and rebroadcast 10 times a week on http://bluegrasscountry.org) Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com .com,.net,.org domains from AUD$20/Year On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 02:05:27 -0800, Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 20:42:27 +1100, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ooff all kinds of things going on ;-) > > > I'm disappointed that it doesnt handle XML files other than the way a > > text editor does. I had the impression since there's a XML plugin, > > that it had XML productivity features. (Yes I do understand that > > your project is the CFML plug in but the idea of a single tool to > > handle CFML, CFCs, and XML was one of the main attractions for me). > > Well Eclipse can do most any kind of file so it is a single tool just > like you want. I use it for Java, JSP, CFML, C++, XML, PHP, and SQL > almost daily. But the CFEclipse part is just for cfml. There is a C# > plug-in, a XML plug-in, a regular expression plugin, an xpath plugin > (the list goes on and on and on). The reason eclipse is so cool is > that the work is broken up between the different plugins - meaning no > one plugin does everything. > > If you want to you can set XML files to be opened (associated) with > the CFEclipse plugin and it'll color code, but you'd get the most bang > for your buck getting an XML focused plugin. What that will do will > create a special editor that starts when you open an XML file - sounds > like you are missing that plugin. > > > As to the videos, I'm not worried about the low budget. In fact I > > think it makes them better in a way. I do a weekly radio show on a > > community (volunteer run) FM station and I reackon our shows are > > better than the ones on the commercial stations too. > > It's not "Off the hook" is it ;-D > > [snip] ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - CFDynamics http://www.cfdynamics.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:188133 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfeclipse + phpeclipse?
On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 20:42:27 +1100, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ooff all kinds of things going on ;-) > I'm disappointed that it doesnt handle XML files other than the way a > text editor does. I had the impression since there's a XML plugin, > that it had XML productivity features. (Yes I do understand that > your project is the CFML plug in but the idea of a single tool to > handle CFML, CFCs, and XML was one of the main attractions for me). Well Eclipse can do most any kind of file so it is a single tool just like you want. I use it for Java, JSP, CFML, C++, XML, PHP, and SQL almost daily. But the CFEclipse part is just for cfml. There is a C# plug-in, a XML plug-in, a regular expression plugin, an xpath plugin (the list goes on and on and on). The reason eclipse is so cool is that the work is broken up between the different plugins - meaning no one plugin does everything. If you want to you can set XML files to be opened (associated) with the CFEclipse plugin and it'll color code, but you'd get the most bang for your buck getting an XML focused plugin. What that will do will create a special editor that starts when you open an XML file - sounds like you are missing that plugin. > As to the videos, I'm not worried about the low budget. In fact I > think it makes them better in a way. I do a weekly radio show on a > community (volunteer run) FM station and I reackon our shows are > better than the ones on the commercial stations too. It's not "Off the hook" is it ;-D > I had Eclipse going, and was able to pick from a dropdown menu of > perspectives, so I assumed Eclipse had installed ok and went on to the > next step- getting the CF plug-in. After I updated teh product with > the CFEclipse plugin, the perspectives view only displays "Other" Um... something is horridly wrong then. It sounds like your workspace got hosed if you have no other plugins at all. Just to verify, you are talking about Window>Show Perspective>Other... menu? > When I select "other" (easy decision since that's the only option) I > get a dialog box of sorts that offers the choices of perspectives to > choose from, but no matter which one I choose, nothing happens. So you do have other ones... when you select a different one your views (panes) don't rearrange? > Opening a file by using "File>Open>" I can open another file (as long > as it's not XML) and the file opens, but all the other panes remain > unchanged. The window is very bare (but the working space is not > full-screen) and not at all like the one in the videos. There's a > blank "navigator" panel on the left and an empty outline panel on the > right. If you want to still give it a shot, sign up on the cfeclipse mailing list and post a screen shot of what you are seeing, we'll be able to help you a more - I am scratching my head trying to visualize what you are seeing. http://cfeclipse.tigris.org/servlets/ProjectMailingListList Cheers, Rob -- ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~ http://cfeclipse.tigris.org ~open source xslt IDE~ http://treebeard.sourceforge.net ~open source XML database~ http://ashpool.sourceforge.net ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:188132 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Thanks Rob, I'm disappointed that it doesnt handle XML files other than the way a text editor does. I had the impression since there's a XML plugin, that it had XML productivity features. (Yes I do understand that your project is the CFML plug in but the idea of a single tool to handle CFML, CFCs, and XML was one of the main attractions for me). As to the videos, I'm not worried about the low budget. In fact I think it makes them better in a way. I do a weekly radio show on a community (volunteer run) FM station and I reackon our shows are better than the ones on the commercial stations too. I had Eclipse going, and was able to pick from a dropdown menu of perspectives, so I assumed Eclipse had installed ok and went on to the next step- getting the CF plug-in. After I updated teh product with the CFEclipse plugin, the perspectives view only displays "Other" When I select "other" (easy decision since that's the only option) I get a dialog box of sorts that offers the choices of perspectives to choose from, but no matter which one I choose, nothing happens. Opening a file by using "File>Open>" I can open another file (as long as it's not XML) and the file opens, but all the other panes remain unchanged. The window is very bare (but the working space is not full-screen) and not at all like the one in the videos. There's a blank "navigator" panel on the left and an empty outline panel on the right. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com .com,.net,.org domains from AUD$20/Year On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 00:54:32 -0800, Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:33:43 +1100, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks Mark, I've seen those. Rob's obviously enthusiastic about the > > product, even if he seems pretty unenthusiastic about making the > > videos. > > I like making the videos. I feel all famous and stuff - even though I > kinda suck. > > >And in half of them the sound is barely audible so it > > renders that video unusable for me I'm afraid. > > Yeah sorry about that I can't afford a decent mic, and as I am sure > you guessed we have a limited budget. Turn up your volume really > really high :) > > >But full marks for > > doing them. I've never seen any software product that came with videos > > before. > > > > But my problem is that my installation doesnt look like the one in the > > videos. The XML stuff is not present. > > CFEclipse doesnt really do XML. XMLBuddy is a good plug-in for xml. > CFEclipse is for cfml (cfc) files > > > Once i've installed the > > CFEclipse stuff, nothing else is available. > > Um... can you be more specific? I think you may be getting lost in the > perspectives / views, but the only thing I can point you to is the > videos :( > > > Try to open a Xml file > > it wants to open another copy of CFEclipse and complains that the > > workspace is already in use. Wel DER! its in use with the copy I > > wanted this file to open into > > Again, cfeclipse is just for cfml files by default. In Eclipse when > you double click on a file and eclipse doesnt know what to do with it > it launches the default system editor. Try installing the XMLBuddy > plug-in for XML files. > > > And none of the XML is visible, even after I've followed someone > > else's suggestion and got an update for the XML plugin. > > Now I am confused. > > > Could it be that the installatoin routine (such that it is) isnt > > equipped to handle WinXPPro SP2? > > Nah it works find on winders. Spike (and I think Ollie) both use > windows to develop on. I am the only one who uses it on Mac (well, not > the *only* one, but the only one of the three) > > What happens when you open a .cfm or .cfc file? > > -- ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - New Atlanta http://www.newatlanta.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:188130 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfeclipse + phpeclipse?
On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:33:43 +1100, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Mark, I've seen those. Rob's obviously enthusiastic about the > product, even if he seems pretty unenthusiastic about making the > videos. I like making the videos. I feel all famous and stuff - even though I kinda suck. >And in half of them the sound is barely audible so it > renders that video unusable for me I'm afraid. Yeah sorry about that I can't afford a decent mic, and as I am sure you guessed we have a limited budget. Turn up your volume really really high :) >But full marks for > doing them. I've never seen any software product that came with videos > before. > > But my problem is that my installation doesnt look like the one in the > videos. The XML stuff is not present. CFEclipse doesnt really do XML. XMLBuddy is a good plug-in for xml. CFEclipse is for cfml (cfc) files > Once i've installed the > CFEclipse stuff, nothing else is available. Um... can you be more specific? I think you may be getting lost in the perspectives / views, but the only thing I can point you to is the videos :( > Try to open a Xml file > it wants to open another copy of CFEclipse and complains that the > workspace is already in use. Wel DER! its in use with the copy I > wanted this file to open into Again, cfeclipse is just for cfml files by default. In Eclipse when you double click on a file and eclipse doesnt know what to do with it it launches the default system editor. Try installing the XMLBuddy plug-in for XML files. > And none of the XML is visible, even after I've followed someone > else's suggestion and got an update for the XML plugin. Now I am confused. > Could it be that the installatoin routine (such that it is) isnt > equipped to handle WinXPPro SP2? Nah it works find on winders. Spike (and I think Ollie) both use windows to develop on. I am the only one who uses it on Mac (well, not the *only* one, but the only one of the three) What happens when you open a .cfm or .cfc file? -- ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~ http://cfeclipse.tigris.org ~open source xslt IDE~ http://treebeard.sourceforge.net ~open source XML database~ http://ashpool.sourceforge.net ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - CFDynamics http://www.cfdynamics.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:188129 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfeclipse + phpeclipse?
Thanks Mark, I've seen those. Rob's obviously enthusiastic about the product, even if he seems pretty unenthusiastic about making the videos. And in half of them the sound is barely audible so it renders that video unusable for me I'm afraid. But full marks for doing them. I've never seen any software product that came with videos before. But my problem is that my installation doesnt look like the one in the videos. The XML stuff is not present. Once i've installed the CFEclipse stuff, nothing else is available.Try to open a Xml file it wants to open another copy of CFEclipse and complains that the workspace is already in use. Wel DER! its in use with the copy I wanted this file to open into And none of the XML is visible, even after I've followed someone else's suggestion and got an update for the XML plugin. Could it be that the installatoin routine (such that it is) isnt equipped to handle WinXPPro SP2? Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com .com,.net,.org domains from AUD$20/Year On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 09:22:36 +0100, Mark Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike > sorry to hear that you are tearing your hair out.. but help is at > hand... Rob has made some nice videos of the installation of eclipse + > cfeclipse > > head over to > http://www.rohanclan.com/projects/cfeclipse/index.cfm > > and download the Install Eclipse and Install CFEclipse videos > .. then get the software > > I hope that helps > > Regards > > Mark Drew > ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - RUWebby http://www.ruwebby.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:188128 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfeclipse + phpeclipse?
Mike sorry to hear that you are tearing your hair out.. but help is at hand... Rob has made some nice videos of the installation of eclipse + cfeclipse head over to http://www.rohanclan.com/projects/cfeclipse/index.cfm and download the Install Eclipse and Install CFEclipse videos .. then get the software I hope that helps Regards Mark Drew On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 13:38:44 +1100, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm going to have to do that too - after 4 hours of tinkering around > with it, I havent written a single line of code on the thing. As the > more patient readers of this list will know by now, this is reaching > the limit of my tolerance with a software program. I'm about to dump > it out the window, whether it's good or not. > > The software could do with a proper installation routine, so you dont > have to manually update all the filetypes, and it would be good to > have a download package too. It took me over an hour to find the > right file to download When I tried to download i was repeatedly > sent to a directory with a whole bunch of files, with esoteric names > that probably meant a lot to the people working on the project but > which meant nothing to me. I had no idea which one I had to download > and I certainly wasn't going to download them all. > > The main attraction for me was that I saw Geoff Bowers using it on his > excellent Breeze presentation, and figured it looked like something I > ought to know about, but then I saw it had capabilities for XML and I > wanted to check them out.I've been able to see some of what this > thing can do with ColdFusion but nothing at all for XML. I havent > got a clue what it can do in that field and I have no idea where to go > looking either. > > If anyone tells me I have to go to sourceforge to find out about > anything to do with eclipse, then thats it for this program - every > time i do a page call anywhere near sourceforge I have to click away a > password challenge box 4 times. Every page. I only go to sourceforge > if there is no other way to do what I REALLY want to do. > > sigh. > > It's probably something I've done to upset the Internet Gods, but the > week before Christmas I just dont have time to stuff around with > things. Either they work and I can look at what they do and maybe use > them, or they're out. > > Cheers > Mike Kear > Windsor, NSW, Australia > AFP Webworks > http://afpwebworks.com > .com,.net,.org domains from AUD$20/Year > > On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 13:52:37 -0500, Damien McKenna > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for that, Spike, I'll give it a shot tonight. If it works, and I > > like what I see, I'll probably change over my laptop for my day job too. > > > > -- > > Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 > > #include > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 11:32 AM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: Re: cfeclipse + phpeclipse? > > > > > > Damien, > > > > > > You can check the status of any of your installed plugins by > > > going to the Help menu then choosing: > > > > > > Software Updates > Manage Configuration... > > [snip] > > > > > > ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - New Atlanta http://www.newatlanta.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:188127 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfeclipse + phpeclipse?
I'm going to have to do that too - after 4 hours of tinkering around with it, I havent written a single line of code on the thing. As the more patient readers of this list will know by now, this is reaching the limit of my tolerance with a software program. I'm about to dump it out the window, whether it's good or not. The software could do with a proper installation routine, so you dont have to manually update all the filetypes, and it would be good to have a download package too. It took me over an hour to find the right file to download When I tried to download i was repeatedly sent to a directory with a whole bunch of files, with esoteric names that probably meant a lot to the people working on the project but which meant nothing to me. I had no idea which one I had to download and I certainly wasn't going to download them all. The main attraction for me was that I saw Geoff Bowers using it on his excellent Breeze presentation, and figured it looked like something I ought to know about, but then I saw it had capabilities for XML and I wanted to check them out.I've been able to see some of what this thing can do with ColdFusion but nothing at all for XML. I havent got a clue what it can do in that field and I have no idea where to go looking either. If anyone tells me I have to go to sourceforge to find out about anything to do with eclipse, then thats it for this program - every time i do a page call anywhere near sourceforge I have to click away a password challenge box 4 times. Every page. I only go to sourceforge if there is no other way to do what I REALLY want to do. sigh. It's probably something I've done to upset the Internet Gods, but the week before Christmas I just dont have time to stuff around with things. Either they work and I can look at what they do and maybe use them, or they're out. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com .com,.net,.org domains from AUD$20/Year On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 13:52:37 -0500, Damien McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for that, Spike, I'll give it a shot tonight. If it works, and I > like what I see, I'll probably change over my laptop for my day job too. > > -- > Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 > #include > > > -Original Message- > > From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 11:32 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: cfeclipse + phpeclipse? > > > > Damien, > > > > You can check the status of any of your installed plugins by > > going to the Help menu then choosing: > > > > Software Updates > Manage Configuration... > [snip] > > ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - RUWebby http://www.ruwebby.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:188116 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfeclipse + phpeclipse?
Thanks for that, Spike, I'll give it a shot tonight. If it works, and I like what I see, I'll probably change over my laptop for my day job too. -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include > -Original Message- > From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 11:32 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: cfeclipse + phpeclipse? > > Damien, > > You can check the status of any of your installed plugins by > going to the Help menu then choosing: > > Software Updates > Manage Configuration... [snip] ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - New Atlanta http://www.newatlanta.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:188034 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfeclipse + phpeclipse?
Damien,
You can check the status of any of your installed plugins by going to
the Help menu then choosing:
Software Updates > Manage Configuration...
That will allow you to see if Eclipse thinks there is a problem with
your configuration for either cfeclipse or PHPEclipse.
Help > About will allow you to view some more details about exactly what
has been installed which may give you some pointers.
Also, in your {eclipse}\workspace\.metadata directory there should be a
file called .log which may have some information about anything that's
going wrong.
If you find anything that seems a bit odd in any of those places feel
free to get in touch with me directly, or post to the cfeclipse users
list on tigris.org. Debugging it would be a bit OT for this list.
Spike
Damien McKenna wrote:
> Last night I downloaded eclipse 3.0 onto my freshly installed
> workstation. I then installed phpeclipse, did the "eclipse -clean" to
> finish the install, and then installed cfeclipse. To my surprise the
> phpeclipse functionality disappeared! Does anyone know what I might
> have done wrong, I really need both if I'm going to bother with either
> of them. Thanks.
>
--
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Re: cfeclipse + phpeclipse?
install CFEclipse THEN install PHP . that works for me Regards Mark Drew On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:27:07 -0500, Damien McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Last night I downloaded eclipse 3.0 onto my freshly installed > workstation. I then installed phpeclipse, did the "eclipse -clean" to > finish the install, and then installed cfeclipse. To my surprise the > phpeclipse functionality disappeared! Does anyone know what I might > have done wrong, I really need both if I'm going to bother with either > of them. Thanks. > > -- > Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 > #include > > ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187998 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
