RE: Cool things about cf

2006-11-14 Thread Andy Matthews
Every PHP guy I've spoken with uses a config file of some sort.

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From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 The Application scope, and Application.cfm/cfc.
 
 I was talking with my two co-workers who program in PHP which 
 doesn't have
 anything like an Application scope.

I'm trying to think how I would live without the application
scope...hard to fathom.  What do they do, store application level stuff
in files or DBs?

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RE: Cool things about cf

2006-11-14 Thread Munson, Jacob
  I'm trying to think how I would live without the application
  scope...hard to fathom.  What do they do, store application 
  level stuff
  in files or DBs?
 
 Every PHP guy I've spoken with uses a config file of some sort.

Ok, but that doesn't help for caching application level data.  For
example, to speed CFQuickDocs up, I put the data in server memory using
the application scope.  Then when /any/ site user does a query, it pulls
directly from memory.  And, it's insanely easy to do this:

cfset application.cftagsquery = variables.cftagsquery

but how would you accomplish such a thing in PHP?  It's probably
possible, but with a lot of code.  Or maybe it's not possible?


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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-14 Thread DRE
Dan,
I didnt have to deal with that.  I looked over my old code (my first cfc -
yikes!) you just use isready and readline.  There is an example here.

http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/read/86121.htm

DRE

On 11/13/06, Dan Plesse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 DRE how do you deal with EOF and the null issue?

 Do you remember where you discovered BufferedReader and do you use the
 close() methods for those
 two objects?

 thanks I use StringReader to LineNumberReader after cffile to avoid
 another
 close() method and to get
 line number if I happen to need them.


 

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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-14 Thread DRE
Jacob,
There are a bunch of php caching classes available.  Basically, the classes
usually serialize any object to a text representation and store that in a
file.  The serialization and deserialization to from file is very quick and
once you have the class, performing the process is usually a one liner.

Here is an example.
http://www.zend.com/zend/spotlight/code-gallery-wade4.php?article=code-gallery-wade4kind=slid=1899open=anc=0view=1

Its not as easy as using the application scope but it does work.

DRE

On 11/14/06, Munson, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I'm trying to think how I would live without the application
   scope...hard to fathom.  What do they do, store application
   level stuff
   in files or DBs?
 
  Every PHP guy I've spoken with uses a config file of some sort.

 Ok, but that doesn't help for caching application level data.  For
 example, to speed CFQuickDocs up, I put the data in server memory using
 the application scope.  Then when /any/ site user does a query, it pulls
 directly from memory.  And, it's insanely easy to do this:

 cfset application.cftagsquery = variables.cftagsquery

 but how would you accomplish such a thing in PHP?  It's probably
 possible, but with a lot of code.  Or maybe it's not possible?


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RE: Cool things about cf

2006-11-14 Thread Munson, Jacob
 Jacob,
 There are a bunch of php caching classes available.  
 Basically, the classes
 usually serialize any object to a text representation and 
 store that in a
 file.  The serialization and deserialization to from file is 
 very quick and
 once you have the class, performing the process is usually a 
 one liner.

Ok, so now we're comparing memory access to file access.  I'd go for
direct memory access over file system any day...


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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-14 Thread Ali Awan
Everyone has already responded to you with all the things I would have added.
But it's the simple things that make CF cool in my opinion.

Working with PHP, or .Net or Java, simple things like File Uploads and CFQuery 
are what make CF cool.

One thing I would add is CFMail.  I've been through hell dabbling with PHP, 
hitting brick walls trying to send a simple email (the details of which are for 
a different post on a different mailing list).  After that, and seeing how 
complicated it can be in ASP and .Net.  CFMail is simple yet powerful, with 
just one attribute you can easily send an HTML or plain text email.  No extra 
configuration or decoding necessary.  Coldfusion handles all of that for you.

Ali
Hey, I'm writing a short article about the cool things that cf comes with
that most others dont. I've got so far:

qoq
groupd output (Hey, I think its cool)
charting
cfdocument

I'm thinking of adding a section on custom tags but not cfc's because you
can write classes easily in most other languages.  Flash forms seem mostly
annoying and I dont like cfform all that much.

So, stuff that is very useful but only comes with cf.  Any others you can
think of?  I'm sure there is much that I have'nt thought of.

Thanks for the moment.

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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-14 Thread Dan Plesse
DRE,

I agree that's some bad stuff. It looks like when I first started coding
2 years ago.

I would readLine() first

Check Null true/false

Enter the loop

readLine again on the bottom of the loop

End loop

close() objects

null them force gc()

Look like this.

cfset variable.line = java_io_LineNumberReader.readline()

cfloop condition=#IsDefined(variable.line)#

cfif find(findThis, variable.line) GT 0

cfset variable.line = Replace(variable.line, 
http://www.opticalalert.com/r.cfm?urlvalue=,,ONE;)
cfset variable.line = Replace(variable.line, findThis, replacethis, ONE)

cfset start = REFind([[:digit:]], variable.line, 1, true).pos[1]+5

cfset some_text = left(variable.line,start)  ' target=new
style=font:none;'

cfset bigstring = bigstring  some_text

cfelse
cfset bigstring = bigstring  variable.line
/cfif

cfset variable.line = java_io_LineNumberReader.readline()

/cfloop

I had to do a big switch / remove text from all my pages. And this is inside
another recursive loop.

Big job.


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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-14 Thread DRE
Its nice to just wrap it up in a cfc.  It makes it more readable and a bit
more reeuseable(just a wee bit).

DRE

On 11/14/06, Dan Plesse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 DRE,

 I agree that's some bad stuff. It looks like when I first started
 coding
 2 years ago.

 I would readLine() first

 Check Null true/false

 Enter the loop

 readLine again on the bottom of the loop

 End loop

 close() objects

 null them force gc()

 Look like this.

 cfset variable.line = java_io_LineNumberReader.readline()

 cfloop condition=#IsDefined(variable.line)#

 cfif find(findThis, variable.line) GT 0

 cfset variable.line = Replace(variable.line, 
 http://www.opticalalert.com/r.cfm?urlvalue=,,ONE;)
 cfset variable.line = Replace(variable.line, findThis, replacethis,
 ONE)

 cfset start = REFind([[:digit:]], variable.line, 1, true).pos[1]+5

 cfset some_text = left(variable.line,start)  ' target=new
 style=font:none;'

 cfset bigstring = bigstring  some_text

 cfelse
 cfset bigstring = bigstring  variable.line
 /cfif

 cfset variable.line = java_io_LineNumberReader.readline()

 /cfloop

 I had to do a big switch / remove text from all my pages. And this is
 inside
 another recursive loop.

 Big job.


 

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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-13 Thread DRE
Nobody has any feedback?  I posted over the weekend and think I missed
everybody so here it is again.

http://increasetheknowledge.com/t-c9d22c37a5e3e708dc3971ac6_Coldfusion_out_of_the_box.html

DRE



On 11/11/06, Dan Plesse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am interested to find out how other CFers do line by line search replace
 and the insert text like Dreamweaver does it.

 What do CF developers do if there is multiple steps are needed to change a
 html file for example.

 I guess they play with the whole html file as one big chunk of text and
 use
 the mid  replace functions.

 Does anyone use something else?


 

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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-13 Thread DRE
ps, please respond directly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DRE

On 11/13/06, DRE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nobody has any feedback?  I posted over the weekend and think I missed
 everybody so here it is again.


 http://increasetheknowledge.com/t-c9d22c37a5e3e708dc3971ac6_Coldfusion_out_of_the_box.html

 DRE



 On 11/11/06, Dan Plesse  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I am interested to find out how other CFers do line by line search
  replace
  and the insert text like Dreamweaver does it.
 
  What do CF developers do if there is multiple steps are needed to change
  a
  html file for example.
 
  I guess they play with the whole html file as one big chunk of text and
  use
  the mid  replace functions.
 
  Does anyone use something else?
 
 
  

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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-13 Thread Dan Plesse
Yes I look it over and bookmarked it. I like this part In the case where
you have a very large document, it is still fairly simple to use the
underlying Java functionality to read documents in small increments and
this was my question out to all CF Dev on how
CF developers do this normally and maybe vote on the best method or methods.


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RE: Cool things about cf

2006-11-13 Thread Munson, Jacob
 The Application scope, and Application.cfm/cfc.
 
 I was talking with my two co-workers who program in PHP which 
 doesn't have
 anything like an Application scope.

I'm trying to think how I would live without the application
scope...hard to fathom.  What do they do, store application level stuff
in files or DBs?




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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-13 Thread DRE
Dan,
To do it line by line via Java, I've used java.io.FileReader and
java.io.BufferedReader. Theres plenty of info online and probably some cfc's
available that already do it.

However, in most cases, you can just turn the file into an array by using
listtoarray on the content from cffile then loop thru that array.

Make sure you use arrays as opposed to list structures, as its a fair bit
faster.

DRE

On 11/13/06, Dan Plesse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes I look it over and bookmarked it. I like this part In the case where
 you have a very large document, it is still fairly simple to use the
 underlying Java functionality to read documents in small increments and
 this was my question out to all CF Dev on how
 CF developers do this normally and maybe vote on the best method or
 methods.


 

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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-13 Thread Dan Plesse
DRE how do you deal with EOF and the null issue?

Do you remember where you discovered BufferedReader and do you use the
close() methods for those
two objects?

thanks I use StringReader to LineNumberReader after cffile to avoid another
close() method and to get
line number if I happen to need them.


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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-11 Thread DRE
Grief these tutorials take forever to write!

If anybody wants to see what I've written and or give me some feedback, it
will be welcome.

http://increasetheknowledge.com/t-c9d22c37a5e3e708dc3971ac6_Coldfusion_out_of_the_box.html

Please respond directly to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Also, please link to it if you have a coldfusion blog.

Thanks!

DRE

On 11/9/06, DRE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks Bobby, I'll use that.

 On 11/8/06, Bobby Hartsfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Here's a simple, useful example.
 
  cfscript
  function bhimginfo(imgfile){
  jFileIn = createObject(java,java.io.File).init(imgfile);
  ImageInfo = StructNew();
  ImageObject =
  createObject(java,javax.imageio.ImageIO).read(jFileIn);
 
  imageFile = CreateObject(java, java.io.File);
  imageFile.init(imgfile);
  sizeb = imageFile.length();
  sizekb = numberformat(sizeb / 1024, 9.99);
  sizemb = numberformat(sizekb / 1024, .99);
 
  bhImageInfo = StructNew();
   bhImageInfo.ImgWidth = ImageObject.getWidth();
  bhImageInfo.ImgHeight = ImageObject.getHeight();
  bhImageInfo.SizeB = sizeb;
  bhImageInfo.SizeKB = sizekb;
  bhImageInfo.SizeMB = sizemb;
  }
  /cfscript
 
 
  It will return image width, height, filesize (in bytes, kilobytes, and
  megabytes)
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: DRE [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:29 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: Cool things about cf
 
  Ben,
  I've instantiated java before using cf but its not been all that simple.
  What would be a good example of a simple but very useful java
  instantiation
  suitable for a tutorial?
 
  DRE
 
  On 11/8/06, Ben Nadel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I looked through the other responses, and I might have missed it, but
   the ability to instantiate Java objects, call underlying Java methods,
   and write your own Java classes... That's pretty freakin' nifty.
  
  
   ..
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   Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer
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   Need ColdFusion Help?
   www.bennadel.com/ask-ben/
  
   -Original Message-
   From: DRE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:01 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Cool things about cf
  
   Hey, I'm writing a short article about the cool things that cf comes
   with that most others dont. I've got so far:
  
   qoq
   groupd output (Hey, I think its cool)
   charting
   cfdocument
  
   I'm thinking of adding a section on custom tags but not cfc's because
   you can write classes easily in most other languages.  Flash forms
  seem
   mostly annoying and I dont like cfform all that much.
  
   So, stuff that is very useful but only comes with cf.  Any others you
   can think of?  I'm sure there is much that I have'nt thought of.
  
   Thanks for the moment.
  
   --
   DRE
   www.webmachineinc.com
   www.theanticool.com
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
  

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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-11 Thread Doug Brown
  Category SubCategory Sub SubCategory Name Quantity
  Birds Large Vegetarian Ibis 3
  Birds Large Vegetarian Flamingo 8
  Birds Large Meatatarian Heron 2
  Birds Large Meatatarian Vulture 2
  Birds Small Vegetarian HummingBird 20
  Birds Small Vegetarian Sparow 1
  Birds Small Vegetarian Swallow 3
  Rodent Small Vegetarian Fieldmouse 6
  Rodent Medium Vegetarian Guinea Pig 2
  Rodent Medium Omnivore Rat 2



Are meat eating birds really called Meatatarians? Too damn funny!! I thought
everything was called carnivores that ate meat



Doug B..

- Original Message - 

From: DRE [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: Cool things about cf


 Grief these tutorials take forever to write!

 If anybody wants to see what I've written and or give me some feedback, it
 will be welcome.


http://increasetheknowledge.com/t-c9d22c37a5e3e708dc3971ac6_Coldfusion_out_of_the_box.html

 Please respond directly to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Also, please link to it if you have a coldfusion blog.

 Thanks!

 DRE

 On 11/9/06, DRE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Thanks Bobby, I'll use that.
 
  On 11/8/06, Bobby Hartsfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Here's a simple, useful example.
  
   cfscript
   function bhimginfo(imgfile){
   jFileIn = createObject(java,java.io.File).init(imgfile);
   ImageInfo = StructNew();
   ImageObject =
   createObject(java,javax.imageio.ImageIO).read(jFileIn);
  
   imageFile = CreateObject(java, java.io.File);
   imageFile.init(imgfile);
   sizeb = imageFile.length();
   sizekb = numberformat(sizeb / 1024, 9.99);
   sizemb = numberformat(sizekb / 1024, .99);
  
   bhImageInfo = StructNew();
bhImageInfo.ImgWidth = ImageObject.getWidth();
   bhImageInfo.ImgHeight = ImageObject.getHeight();
   bhImageInfo.SizeB = sizeb;
   bhImageInfo.SizeKB = sizekb;
   bhImageInfo.SizeMB = sizemb;
   }
   /cfscript
  
  
   It will return image width, height, filesize (in bytes, kilobytes, and
   megabytes)
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: DRE [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:29 AM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Re: Cool things about cf
  
   Ben,
   I've instantiated java before using cf but its not been all that
simple.
   What would be a good example of a simple but very useful java
   instantiation
   suitable for a tutorial?
  
   DRE
  
   On 11/8/06, Ben Nadel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
I looked through the other responses, and I might have missed it,
but
the ability to instantiate Java objects, call underlying Java
methods,
and write your own Java classes... That's pretty freakin' nifty.
   
   
..
Ben Nadel
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-Original Message-
From: DRE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Cool things about cf
   
Hey, I'm writing a short article about the cool things that cf comes
with that most others dont. I've got so far:
   
qoq
groupd output (Hey, I think its cool)
charting
cfdocument
   
I'm thinking of adding a section on custom tags but not cfc's
because
you can write classes easily in most other languages.  Flash forms
   seem
mostly annoying and I dont like cfform all that much.
   
So, stuff that is very useful but only comes with cf.  Any others
you
can think of?  I'm sure there is much that I have'nt thought of.
   
Thanks for the moment.
   
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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-11 Thread Denny Valliant
Yup, I agree with the easy Java.  There /is/ a lot of cool java stuff out there.
Writing cf-java is super easy, compared to java java, and CF has the
nifty parts without the PITA parts, for the most part. d-:

The built in error trapping/handling is pretty slick, too.

It's super flexible, which can be dangerous for the likes of me. :)

Overall it's got a good power/ease of use ratio, I'd posit.  [:

On 11/8/06, Dan Plesse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I looked at how java works with web services i.e axis and the fact that you
 don't have to do extra work in CF to ship/send/ or receive any kind of
 object is truly amazing. In java land its yet another issue. For java web
 service on CF I have to WDDX each object before its sent and before its
 received and decompile back again.  It's a real pain and an extra step. You
 can't put a price tag
 on all the magic its priceless and its not just a bunch cool stuff to list
 off either taken in total its a step ahead.

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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-11 Thread Dan Plesse
I am interested to find out how other CFers do line by line search replace
and the insert text like Dreamweaver does it.

What do CF developers do if there is multiple steps are needed to change a
html file for example.

I guess they play with the whole html file as one big chunk of text and use
the mid  replace functions.

Does anyone use something else?


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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-11 Thread DRE
Just keeping the non coldfusioners slightly confused.

DRE

On 11/11/06, Doug Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Category SubCategory Sub SubCategory Name Quantity
   Birds Large Vegetarian Ibis 3
   Birds Large Vegetarian Flamingo 8
   Birds Large Meatatarian Heron 2
   Birds Large Meatatarian Vulture 2
   Birds Small Vegetarian HummingBird 20
   Birds Small Vegetarian Sparow 1
   Birds Small Vegetarian Swallow 3
   Rodent Small Vegetarian Fieldmouse 6
   Rodent Medium Vegetarian Guinea Pig 2
   Rodent Medium Omnivore Rat 2



 Are meat eating birds really called Meatatarians? Too damn funny!! I
 thought
 everything was called carnivores that ate meat



 Doug B..

 - Original Message -

 From: DRE [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: Cool things about cf


  Grief these tutorials take forever to write!
 
  If anybody wants to see what I've written and or give me some feedback,
 it
  will be welcome.
 
 

 http://increasetheknowledge.com/t-c9d22c37a5e3e708dc3971ac6_Coldfusion_out_of_the_box.html
 
  Please respond directly to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Also, please link to it if you have a coldfusion blog.
 
  Thanks!
 
  DRE
 
  On 11/9/06, DRE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Thanks Bobby, I'll use that.
  
   On 11/8/06, Bobby Hartsfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Here's a simple, useful example.
   
cfscript
function bhimginfo(imgfile){
jFileIn = createObject(java,java.io.File).init(imgfile);
ImageInfo = StructNew();
ImageObject =
createObject(java,javax.imageio.ImageIO).read(jFileIn);
   
imageFile = CreateObject(java, java.io.File);
imageFile.init(imgfile);
sizeb = imageFile.length();
sizekb = numberformat(sizeb / 1024, 9.99);
sizemb = numberformat(sizekb / 1024, .99);
   
bhImageInfo = StructNew();
 bhImageInfo.ImgWidth = ImageObject.getWidth();
bhImageInfo.ImgHeight = ImageObject.getHeight();
bhImageInfo.SizeB = sizeb;
bhImageInfo.SizeKB = sizekb;
bhImageInfo.SizeMB = sizemb;
}
/cfscript
   
   
It will return image width, height, filesize (in bytes, kilobytes,
 and
megabytes)
   
   
-Original Message-
From: DRE [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Cool things about cf
   
Ben,
I've instantiated java before using cf but its not been all that
 simple.
What would be a good example of a simple but very useful java
instantiation
suitable for a tutorial?
   
DRE
   
On 11/8/06, Ben Nadel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I looked through the other responses, and I might have missed it,
 but
 the ability to instantiate Java objects, call underlying Java
 methods,
 and write your own Java classes... That's pretty freakin' nifty.


 ..
 Ben Nadel
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer
 www.bennadel.com

 Need ColdFusion Help?
 www.bennadel.com/ask-ben/

 -Original Message-
 From: DRE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:01 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Cool things about cf

 Hey, I'm writing a short article about the cool things that cf
 comes
 with that most others dont. I've got so far:

 qoq
 groupd output (Hey, I think its cool)
 charting
 cfdocument

 I'm thinking of adding a section on custom tags but not cfc's
 because
 you can write classes easily in most other languages.  Flash forms
seem
 mostly annoying and I dont like cfform all that much.

 So, stuff that is very useful but only comes with cf.  Any others
 you
 can think of?  I'm sure there is much that I have'nt thought of.

 Thanks for the moment.

 --
 DRE
 www.webmachineinc.com
 www.theanticool.com





   
   
   
   
 
 

 

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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-09 Thread DRE
Thanks Bobby, I'll use that.

On 11/8/06, Bobby Hartsfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Here's a simple, useful example.

 cfscript
 function bhimginfo(imgfile){
 jFileIn = createObject(java,java.io.File).init(imgfile);
 ImageInfo = StructNew();
 ImageObject =
 createObject(java,javax.imageio.ImageIO).read(jFileIn);

 imageFile = CreateObject(java, java.io.File);
 imageFile.init(imgfile);
 sizeb = imageFile.length();
 sizekb = numberformat(sizeb / 1024, 9.99);
 sizemb = numberformat(sizekb / 1024, .99);

 bhImageInfo = StructNew();
 bhImageInfo.ImgWidth = ImageObject.getWidth();
 bhImageInfo.ImgHeight = ImageObject.getHeight();
 bhImageInfo.SizeB = sizeb;
 bhImageInfo.SizeKB = sizekb;
 bhImageInfo.SizeMB = sizemb;
 }
 /cfscript


 It will return image width, height, filesize (in bytes, kilobytes, and
 megabytes)


 -Original Message-
 From: DRE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:29 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Cool things about cf

 Ben,
 I've instantiated java before using cf but its not been all that simple.
 What would be a good example of a simple but very useful java
 instantiation
 suitable for a tutorial?

 DRE

 On 11/8/06, Ben Nadel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I looked through the other responses, and I might have missed it, but
  the ability to instantiate Java objects, call underlying Java methods,
  and write your own Java classes... That's pretty freakin' nifty.
 
 
  ..
  Ben Nadel
  Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer
  www.bennadel.com
 
  Need ColdFusion Help?
  www.bennadel.com/ask-ben/
 
  -Original Message-
  From: DRE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:01 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Cool things about cf
 
  Hey, I'm writing a short article about the cool things that cf comes
  with that most others dont. I've got so far:
 
  qoq
  groupd output (Hey, I think its cool)
  charting
  cfdocument
 
  I'm thinking of adding a section on custom tags but not cfc's because
  you can write classes easily in most other languages.  Flash forms seem
  mostly annoying and I dont like cfform all that much.
 
  So, stuff that is very useful but only comes with cf.  Any others you
  can think of?  I'm sure there is much that I have'nt thought of.
 
  Thanks for the moment.
 
  --
  DRE
  www.webmachineinc.com
  www.theanticool.com
 
 
 
 
 



 

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RE: Cool things about cf

2006-11-08 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
-Original Message-
From: DRE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Cool things about cf

Hey, I'm writing a short article about the cool things that cf comes with
that most others dont. I've got so far:

qoq
groupd output (Hey, I think its cool)
charting
cfdocument

I'm thinking of adding a section on custom tags but not cfc's because you
can write classes easily in most other languages.  Flash forms seem mostly
annoying and I dont like cfform all that much.

So, stuff that is very useful but only comes with cf.  Any others you can
think of?  I'm sure there is much that I have'nt thought of.

Thanks for the moment.

-- 
DRE
www.webmachineinc.com
www.theanticool.com




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RE: Cool things about cf

2006-11-08 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
CF-Talk... There's no other community as willing to help.

and... it's tag based, typeless and has cfdump. How much easier can it get?
;-P

-Original Message-
From: DRE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Cool things about cf

Hey, I'm writing a short article about the cool things that cf comes with
that most others dont. I've got so far:

qoq
groupd output (Hey, I think its cool)
charting
cfdocument

I'm thinking of adding a section on custom tags but not cfc's because you
can write classes easily in most other languages.  Flash forms seem mostly
annoying and I dont like cfform all that much.

So, stuff that is very useful but only comes with cf.  Any others you can
think of?  I'm sure there is much that I have'nt thought of.

Thanks for the moment.

-- 
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www.webmachineinc.com
www.theanticool.com




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RE: Cool things about cf

2006-11-08 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
Oh yeah... cffile makes file uploads and manipulation MUCH easier (or at
least less code) than other languages.


-Original Message-
From: DRE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Cool things about cf

Hey, I'm writing a short article about the cool things that cf comes with
that most others dont. I've got so far:

qoq
groupd output (Hey, I think its cool)
charting
cfdocument

I'm thinking of adding a section on custom tags but not cfc's because you
can write classes easily in most other languages.  Flash forms seem mostly
annoying and I dont like cfform all that much.

So, stuff that is very useful but only comes with cf.  Any others you can
think of?  I'm sure there is much that I have'nt thought of.

Thanks for the moment.

-- 
DRE
www.webmachineinc.com
www.theanticool.com




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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-08 Thread Cutter (CFRelated)
While I agree that flash forms aren't the greatest, you also have the 
XForms option with CFForm which is way underutilized.

Cutter
_
http://blog.cutterscrossing.com

Bobby Hartsfield wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: DRE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:01 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Cool things about cf
 
 Hey, I'm writing a short article about the cool things that cf comes with
 that most others dont. I've got so far:
 
 qoq
 groupd output (Hey, I think its cool)
 charting
 cfdocument
 
 I'm thinking of adding a section on custom tags but not cfc's because you
 can write classes easily in most other languages.  Flash forms seem mostly
 annoying and I dont like cfform all that much.
 
 So, stuff that is very useful but only comes with cf.  Any others you can
 think of?  I'm sure there is much that I have'nt thought of.
 
 Thanks for the moment.
 

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RE: Cool things about cf

2006-11-08 Thread Ben Nadel
I looked through the other responses, and I might have missed it, but
the ability to instantiate Java objects, call underlying Java methods,
and write your own Java classes... That's pretty freakin' nifty. 


..
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Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer
www.bennadel.com
 
Need ColdFusion Help?
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-Original Message-
From: DRE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Cool things about cf

Hey, I'm writing a short article about the cool things that cf comes
with that most others dont. I've got so far:

qoq
groupd output (Hey, I think its cool)
charting
cfdocument

I'm thinking of adding a section on custom tags but not cfc's because
you can write classes easily in most other languages.  Flash forms seem
mostly annoying and I dont like cfform all that much.

So, stuff that is very useful but only comes with cf.  Any others you
can think of?  I'm sure there is much that I have'nt thought of.

Thanks for the moment.

--
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www.webmachineinc.com
www.theanticool.com




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RE: Cool things about cf

2006-11-08 Thread Andy Matthews
The Application scope, and Application.cfm/cfc.

I was talking with my two co-workers who program in PHP which doesn't have
anything like an Application scope.

!//--
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web developer
certified advanced coldfusion programmer
ICGLink, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--//-

-Original Message-
From: DRE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Cool things about cf


Hey, I'm writing a short article about the cool things that cf comes with
that most others dont. I've got so far:

qoq
groupd output (Hey, I think its cool)
charting
cfdocument

I'm thinking of adding a section on custom tags but not cfc's because you
can write classes easily in most other languages.  Flash forms seem mostly
annoying and I dont like cfform all that much.

So, stuff that is very useful but only comes with cf.  Any others you can
think of?  I'm sure there is much that I have'nt thought of.

Thanks for the moment.

--
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www.webmachineinc.com
www.theanticool.com




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RE: Cool things about cf

2006-11-08 Thread Ben Nadel
CFHTTP is totally sweeet. Both for reading in CSV files and for grabbing
content.


..
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-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 9:13 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Cool things about cf

The Application scope, and Application.cfm/cfc.

I was talking with my two co-workers who program in PHP which doesn't
have anything like an Application scope.

!//--
andy matthews
web developer
certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
615.370.1530 x737
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RE: Cool things about cf

2006-11-08 Thread Konopka, David
CFC based web services -- just set a method access property to remote
and its available as a soap web service. 


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-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 9:13 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Cool things about cf

The Application scope, and Application.cfm/cfc.

I was talking with my two co-workers who program in PHP which doesn't
have
anything like an Application scope.

!//--
andy matthews
web developer
certified advanced coldfusion programmer
ICGLink, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
615.370.1530 x737
--//-

-Original Message-
From: DRE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Cool things about cf


Hey, I'm writing a short article about the cool things that cf comes
with
that most others dont. I've got so far:

qoq
groupd output (Hey, I think its cool)
charting
cfdocument

I'm thinking of adding a section on custom tags but not cfc's because
you
can write classes easily in most other languages.  Flash forms seem
mostly
annoying and I dont like cfform all that much.

So, stuff that is very useful but only comes with cf.  Any others you
can
think of?  I'm sure there is much that I have'nt thought of.

Thanks for the moment.

--
DRE
www.webmachineinc.com
www.theanticool.com






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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-08 Thread Teddy Payne
Webservice calls are made simple with cfhttp.

Creating and consuming webservices is made simple with remote CFC methods.

cfmail with cfpop provide very quick email submissions.

The ability to easily extend your base tag language using custom tags.

The ability to deploy CF with a vast majority of mainstream webservers,
operating system and database management systems.

 you get the point

Teddy



On 11/8/06, Ben Nadel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 CFHTTP is totally sweeet. Both for reading in CSV files and for grabbing
 content.


 ..
 Ben Nadel
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 www.bennadel.com

 Need ColdFusion Help?
 www.bennadel.com/ask-ben/

 -Original Message-
 From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 9:13 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Cool things about cf

 The Application scope, and Application.cfm/cfc.

 I was talking with my two co-workers who program in PHP which doesn't
 have anything like an Application scope.

 !//--
 andy matthews
 web developer
 certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 615.370.1530 x737
 --//-

 

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RE: Cool things about cf

2006-11-08 Thread Brad Wood
Rick, AjaxCFC comes with a cool utility called sdumper() which
document.write's cfdump style objects to the bottom of the page. 

It's fairly useful.

-Original Message-
From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 8:44 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Cool things about cf

Crow T. Robot wrote:
 the dump tag is enormously important on a daily basis to me.

I honestly don't know how I surved without cfdump.

One of the things that I hate about ajax development is javascript's 
inability to dump stuff.


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RE: Cool things about cf

2006-11-08 Thread Kevin Aebig
- Webservice implementation
- Application scope
- File Handling and Permissions and...

Includes. I know this might seem weird so some, but anyone who's dealt with
PHP knows what a major PITA it can be to handle include paths that aren't
within the relative scope underneath the calling file.

!k

-Original Message-
From: DRE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Cool things about cf

Hey, I'm writing a short article about the cool things that cf comes with
that most others dont. I've got so far:

qoq
groupd output (Hey, I think its cool)
charting
cfdocument

I'm thinking of adding a section on custom tags but not cfc's because you
can write classes easily in most other languages.  Flash forms seem mostly
annoying and I dont like cfform all that much.

So, stuff that is very useful but only comes with cf.  Any others you can
think of?  I'm sure there is much that I have'nt thought of.

Thanks for the moment.

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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-08 Thread Will Tomlinson
Somebody told me .net doesn't have anything like a cfparam

Is that true? 

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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-08 Thread DRE
Ben,
I've instantiated java before using cf but its not been all that simple.
What would be a good example of a simple but very useful java instantiation
suitable for a tutorial?

DRE

On 11/8/06, Ben Nadel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I looked through the other responses, and I might have missed it, but
 the ability to instantiate Java objects, call underlying Java methods,
 and write your own Java classes... That's pretty freakin' nifty.


 ..
 Ben Nadel
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer
 www.bennadel.com

 Need ColdFusion Help?
 www.bennadel.com/ask-ben/

 -Original Message-
 From: DRE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:01 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Cool things about cf

 Hey, I'm writing a short article about the cool things that cf comes
 with that most others dont. I've got so far:

 qoq
 groupd output (Hey, I think its cool)
 charting
 cfdocument

 I'm thinking of adding a section on custom tags but not cfc's because
 you can write classes easily in most other languages.  Flash forms seem
 mostly annoying and I dont like cfform all that much.

 So, stuff that is very useful but only comes with cf.  Any others you
 can think of?  I'm sure there is much that I have'nt thought of.

 Thanks for the moment.

 --
 DRE
 www.webmachineinc.com
 www.theanticool.com




 

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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-08 Thread exH
It's not just it reads like English, the tag based markup sits perfectly 
with HTML/XHTML.

To get a list of cool things about CF, just reference the docs index and 
remove the odd uncool thing(s?)

;)

- Original Message - 
From: Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: Cool things about cf


 Dont forget the syntax itself  - it almost reads like english.




 On 11/8/06, DRE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey, I'm writing a short article about the cool things that cf comes with
 that most others dont. I've got so far:

 qoq
 groupd output (Hey, I think its cool)
 charting
 cfdocument

 I'm thinking of adding a section on custom tags but not cfc's because you
 can write classes easily in most other languages.  Flash forms seem 
 mostly
 annoying and I dont like cfform all that much.

 So, stuff that is very useful but only comes with cf.  Any others you can
 think of?  I'm sure there is much that I have'nt thought of.

 Thanks for the moment.

 --
 DRE
 www.webmachineinc.com
 www.theanticool.com



 

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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-08 Thread DRE
Andy,
I learned a bunch of php lately and was stunned by this lack of application
scope as well.

I do think tho that .net and java both have similar structures so I'm a bit
wary of including it.

DRE

On 11/8/06, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The Application scope, and Application.cfm/cfc.

 I was talking with my two co-workers who program in PHP which doesn't have
 anything like an Application scope.

 !//--
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 certified advanced coldfusion programmer
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 --//-

 -Original Message-
 From: DRE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:01 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Cool things about cf


 Hey, I'm writing a short article about the cool things that cf comes with
 that most others dont. I've got so far:

 qoq
 groupd output (Hey, I think its cool)
 charting
 cfdocument

 I'm thinking of adding a section on custom tags but not cfc's because you
 can write classes easily in most other languages.  Flash forms seem mostly
 annoying and I dont like cfform all that much.

 So, stuff that is very useful but only comes with cf.  Any others you can
 think of?  I'm sure there is much that I have'nt thought of.

 Thanks for the moment.

 --
 DRE
 www.webmachineinc.com
 www.theanticool.com




 

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RE: Cool things about cf

2006-11-08 Thread Dave Watts
 Hey, I'm writing a short article about the cool things that 
 cf comes with that most others dont.

Working with XML is a lot easier in CF. Most environments force you to use
the XML DOM API, but CF exposes XML document objects as nested arrays and
structures.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-08 Thread Dan Plesse
I looked at how java works with web services i.e axis and the fact that you
don't have to do extra work in CF to ship/send/ or receive any kind of
object is truly amazing. In java land its yet another issue. For java web
service on CF I have to WDDX each object before its sent and before its
received and decompile back again.  It's a real pain and an extra step. You
can't put a price tag
on all the magic its priceless and its not just a bunch cool stuff to list
off either taken in total its a step ahead.


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RE: Cool things about cf

2006-11-08 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
Here's a simple, useful example.

cfscript
function bhimginfo(imgfile){
jFileIn = createObject(java,java.io.File).init(imgfile);
ImageInfo = StructNew();
ImageObject =
createObject(java,javax.imageio.ImageIO).read(jFileIn);

imageFile = CreateObject(java, java.io.File); 
imageFile.init(imgfile); 
sizeb = imageFile.length(); 
sizekb = numberformat(sizeb / 1024, 9.99);
sizemb = numberformat(sizekb / 1024, .99);

bhImageInfo = StructNew();
bhImageInfo.ImgWidth = ImageObject.getWidth();
bhImageInfo.ImgHeight = ImageObject.getHeight();
bhImageInfo.SizeB = sizeb;
bhImageInfo.SizeKB = sizekb;
bhImageInfo.SizeMB = sizemb;
}
/cfscript


It will return image width, height, filesize (in bytes, kilobytes, and
megabytes)


-Original Message-
From: DRE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Cool things about cf

Ben,
I've instantiated java before using cf but its not been all that simple.
What would be a good example of a simple but very useful java instantiation
suitable for a tutorial?

DRE

On 11/8/06, Ben Nadel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I looked through the other responses, and I might have missed it, but
 the ability to instantiate Java objects, call underlying Java methods,
 and write your own Java classes... That's pretty freakin' nifty.


 ..
 Ben Nadel
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer
 www.bennadel.com

 Need ColdFusion Help?
 www.bennadel.com/ask-ben/

 -Original Message-
 From: DRE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:01 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Cool things about cf

 Hey, I'm writing a short article about the cool things that cf comes
 with that most others dont. I've got so far:

 qoq
 groupd output (Hey, I think its cool)
 charting
 cfdocument

 I'm thinking of adding a section on custom tags but not cfc's because
 you can write classes easily in most other languages.  Flash forms seem
 mostly annoying and I dont like cfform all that much.

 So, stuff that is very useful but only comes with cf.  Any others you
 can think of?  I'm sure there is much that I have'nt thought of.

 Thanks for the moment.

 --
 DRE
 www.webmachineinc.com
 www.theanticool.com




 



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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-08 Thread Antony Sideropoulos
The next time someone starts a 'CF is dying' or 'Why choose CF over ASP/PHP'
thread, can they please be pointed to this thread as the answer?

How do you make a sticky on CF-Talk?


On 11/9/06, Bobby Hartsfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Here's a simple, useful example.

 cfscript
 function bhimginfo(imgfile){
jFileIn = createObject(java,java.io.File).init(imgfile);
ImageInfo = StructNew();
ImageObject =
 createObject(java,javax.imageio.ImageIO).read(jFileIn);

imageFile = CreateObject(java, java.io.File);
imageFile.init(imgfile);
sizeb = imageFile.length();
sizekb = numberformat(sizeb / 1024, 9.99);
sizemb = numberformat(sizekb / 1024, .99);

bhImageInfo = StructNew();
bhImageInfo.ImgWidth = ImageObject.getWidth();
bhImageInfo.ImgHeight = ImageObject.getHeight();
bhImageInfo.SizeB = sizeb;
bhImageInfo.SizeKB = sizekb;
bhImageInfo.SizeMB = sizemb;
 }
 /cfscript


 It will return image width, height, filesize (in bytes, kilobytes, and
 megabytes)


 -Original Message-
 From: DRE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:29 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Cool things about cf

 Ben,
 I've instantiated java before using cf but its not been all that simple.
 What would be a good example of a simple but very useful java
 instantiation
 suitable for a tutorial?

 DRE

 On 11/8/06, Ben Nadel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I looked through the other responses, and I might have missed it, but
  the ability to instantiate Java objects, call underlying Java methods,
  and write your own Java classes... That's pretty freakin' nifty.
 
 
  ..
  Ben Nadel
  Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer
  www.bennadel.com
 
  Need ColdFusion Help?
  www.bennadel.com/ask-ben/
 
  -Original Message-
  From: DRE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:01 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Cool things about cf
 
  Hey, I'm writing a short article about the cool things that cf comes
  with that most others dont. I've got so far:
 
  qoq
  groupd output (Hey, I think its cool)
  charting
  cfdocument
 
  I'm thinking of adding a section on custom tags but not cfc's because
  you can write classes easily in most other languages.  Flash forms seem
  mostly annoying and I dont like cfform all that much.
 
  So, stuff that is very useful but only comes with cf.  Any others you
  can think of?  I'm sure there is much that I have'nt thought of.
 
  Thanks for the moment.
 
  --
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  www.webmachineinc.com
  www.theanticool.com
 
 
 
 
 



 

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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-07 Thread Crow T. Robot
the dump tag is enormously important on a daily basis to me.

On 11/7/06, DRE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey, I'm writing a short article about the cool things that cf comes with
 that most others dont. I've got so far:

 qoq
 groupd output (Hey, I think its cool)
 charting
 cfdocument

 I'm thinking of adding a section on custom tags but not cfc's because you
 can write classes easily in most other languages.  Flash forms seem mostly
 annoying and I dont like cfform all that much.

 So, stuff that is very useful but only comes with cf.  Any others you can
 think of?  I'm sure there is much that I have'nt thought of.

 Thanks for the moment.

 --
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 www.webmachineinc.com
 www.theanticool.com


 

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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-07 Thread Matt Robertson
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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-07 Thread Mark Mandel
The debug output man!

Just by turning on the debug, you get SO much information about
processing, the page state etc.  You don't get that anywhere else.

Mark



On 11/8/06, DRE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey, I'm writing a short article about the cool things that cf comes with
 that most others dont. I've got so far:

 qoq
 groupd output (Hey, I think its cool)
 charting
 cfdocument

 I'm thinking of adding a section on custom tags but not cfc's because you
 can write classes easily in most other languages.  Flash forms seem mostly
 annoying and I dont like cfform all that much.

 So, stuff that is very useful but only comes with cf.  Any others you can
 think of?  I'm sure there is much that I have'nt thought of.

 Thanks for the moment.

 --
 DRE
 www.webmachineinc.com
 www.theanticool.com


 

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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-07 Thread Josh Nathanson
The robust exception output.  That saves tons of time trying to figure out 
what's going wrong.

-- Josh



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RE: Cool things about cf

2006-11-07 Thread Snake
Don't forget about CFQUERY itself.
Querying a database is much easier in CF than in other languages.

Russ 

-Original Message-
From: DRE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 November 2006 00:01
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Cool things about cf

Hey, I'm writing a short article about the cool things that cf comes with
that most others dont. I've got so far:

qoq
groupd output (Hey, I think its cool)
charting
cfdocument

I'm thinking of adding a section on custom tags but not cfc's because you
can write classes easily in most other languages.  Flash forms seem mostly
annoying and I dont like cfform all that much.

So, stuff that is very useful but only comes with cf.  Any others you can
think of?  I'm sure there is much that I have'nt thought of.

Thanks for the moment.

--
DRE
www.webmachineinc.com
www.theanticool.com




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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-07 Thread Will Tomlinson
How about cfset 

:)

Will

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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-07 Thread Rick Root
Crow T. Robot wrote:
 the dump tag is enormously important on a daily basis to me.

I honestly don't know how I surved without cfdump.

One of the things that I hate about ajax development is javascript's 
inability to dump stuff.

Rick

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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-07 Thread Rick Root
Crow T. Robot wrote:
 the dump tag is enormously important on a daily basis to me.


Whenever I'm having trouble coding.. like I just get stopped up... 
taking a good cfdump always helps.

Rick

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RE: Cool things about cf

2006-11-07 Thread Matt Quackenbush
If you use Rob Gonda's ajaxCFC, he has a dump() method for the js built into
it.  It's a rather nice feature!  Thank you Rob!!  :-)


-Original Message-
From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 8:44 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Cool things about cf

Crow T. Robot wrote:
 the dump tag is enormously important on a daily basis to me.

I honestly don't know how I surved without cfdump.

One of the things that I hate about ajax development is javascript's
inability to dump stuff.

Rick



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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-07 Thread Mike Kear
Dont forget the syntax itself  - it almost reads like english.

As a freelance, I work a lot on other people's code and when I
encounter a tag i havent used before or a custom tag, usually the name
itself tells me what it's doing.

When i first came in contact with ASP all those years ago, i spend
AGES trying to figure out what the sections of the code were doing -
just finding the piece of code took a long time.

Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks
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ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month




On 11/8/06, DRE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey, I'm writing a short article about the cool things that cf comes with
 that most others dont. I've got so far:

 qoq
 groupd output (Hey, I think its cool)
 charting
 cfdocument

 I'm thinking of adding a section on custom tags but not cfc's because you
 can write classes easily in most other languages.  Flash forms seem mostly
 annoying and I dont like cfform all that much.

 So, stuff that is very useful but only comes with cf.  Any others you can
 think of?  I'm sure there is much that I have'nt thought of.

 Thanks for the moment.

 --
 DRE
 www.webmachineinc.com
 www.theanticool.com



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RE: Cool things about cf

2006-11-07 Thread Doug Bezona
I would disagree that Flash forms are just annoying. They are actually a subset 
of Flex (albeit version 1.5 - hopefully CF 8 updates it to Flex 2), and can be 
extremely powerful - check out some of the articles on www.asfusion.com

There's a lot of capability there.

-Original Message-
From: DRE [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: 11/7/06 7:02 PM
Subject: Cool things about cf

Hey, I'm writing a short article about the cool things that cf comes with
that most others dont. I've got so far:

qoq
groupd output (Hey, I think its cool)
charting
cfdocument

I'm thinking of adding a section on custom tags but not cfc's because you
can write classes easily in most other languages.  Flash forms seem mostly
annoying and I dont like cfform all that much.

So, stuff that is very useful but only comes with cf.  Any others you can
think of?  I'm sure there is much that I have'nt thought of.

Thanks for the moment.

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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-07 Thread James Holmes
You need to check out DP_Debug, which solves this problem. It's
available online and also bundled with mxAjax.

http://www.depressedpress.com/Content/Development/JavaScript/Extensions/DP_Debug/Index.cfm

On 11/8/06, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Crow T. Robot wrote:
 One of the things that I hate about ajax development is javascript's
 inability to dump stuff.

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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-07 Thread Chuck Weidler
How about the flexibility to write you code in either tag based or cfscript.  
Not to mention the use of CFCs has brought CF into a whole new light.

:)

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RE: Cool things about cf

2006-11-07 Thread Eric Roberts
Ben Forta has a good article on the true cost differential of CF vs ASP.
That might give you some inspiration.  I know they have it on the CF
Developer Journal site, but may Ben would be so kind as to post a link to it
(and maybe he can give you a few items as well...I don't think anyone know
CF like Ben knows CF).

Eric 

-Original Message-
From: DRE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 07 November 2006 18:01
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Cool things about cf

Hey, I'm writing a short article about the cool things that cf comes with
that most others dont. I've got so far:

qoq
groupd output (Hey, I think its cool)
charting
cfdocument

I'm thinking of adding a section on custom tags but not cfc's because you
can write classes easily in most other languages.  Flash forms seem mostly
annoying and I dont like cfform all that much.

So, stuff that is very useful but only comes with cf.  Any others you can
think of?  I'm sure there is much that I have'nt thought of.

Thanks for the moment.

--
DRE
www.webmachineinc.com
www.theanticool.com




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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-07 Thread Tony Hicks
The triple support of Arrays, Lists, and Structures. You can store your data
however you want. Obviously, you don't want to store complex data in lists,
but when you're working in setups where you recieve from a list, the intense
support for list functions allows easy manipulation and extraction.

Structs having the the triple access to variables
Struct[key]
Struct.key
StructFind(Struct,key) (Although this method feels like code-bloat that
should have been deprecated versions ago.

My favorite is struct[key] because you can use it easy with looping and
get dynamic values without using evaluate.

I have to agree on another point dual cfscript/traditional cf is nice.

I really wish cf would put the traditional comparisons into code... = along
with eq, != along with neq,  along with and. At least in cfscript...

On 11/7/06, Eric Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ben Forta has a good article on the true cost differential of CF vs ASP.
 That might give you some inspiration.  I know they have it on the CF
 Developer Journal site, but may Ben would be so kind as to post a link to
 it
 (and maybe he can give you a few items as well...I don't think anyone know
 CF like Ben knows CF).

 Eric

 -Original Message-
 From: DRE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, 07 November 2006 18:01
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Cool things about cf

 Hey, I'm writing a short article about the cool things that cf comes with
 that most others dont. I've got so far:

 qoq
 groupd output (Hey, I think its cool)
 charting
 cfdocument

 I'm thinking of adding a section on custom tags but not cfc's because you
 can write classes easily in most other languages.  Flash forms seem mostly
 annoying and I dont like cfform all that much.

 So, stuff that is very useful but only comes with cf.  Any others you can
 think of?  I'm sure there is much that I have'nt thought of.

 Thanks for the moment.

 --
 DRE
 www.webmachineinc.com
 www.theanticool.com




 

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Re: Cool things about cf

2006-11-07 Thread Dan Plesse
I think coldfusion allows beginners access to java at a level never before
seen and hooks into a wealth
of open source projects which no other lanaguage can. I just wrote a CF jode
decompiler in under 15 minutes and the day before I found out how to delete
a row within a cfquery object using its data as the reference. Cool stuff!


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