RE: TCPClient Second Edition (COM Object)

2000-12-21 Thread Rich Wild

 As a general note, CFX_TCPClient 1.x is now "dead". Went 
 ahead and put up
 the brand new TCPClient Second Edition just now.

Nice one Min!

We've been using the old 1.1 for a while - so useful it hurts!

You da man. :)


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 Subject: TCPClient Second Edition (COM Object)
 
 
 As a general note, CFX_TCPClient 1.x is now "dead". Went 
 ahead and put up
 the brand new TCPClient Second Edition just now.
 
 Pretty much all new C++ code. It's a CON object, err COM 
 object. :) Suitable
 for ASP, CF, PHP4(?), etc. Full source, etc.
 
 Completely replaces the old 1.x hack. :-)
 
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Duplicate supported in CF4.0

2000-12-21 Thread Johan Coens

Quick question
is the Duplicate function supported in CF4.0?

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RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0

2000-12-21 Thread Allan Pichler

No it's not!

Allan Pichler
Machine Dreams Inc.

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Subject: Duplicate supported in CF4.0


Quick question
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RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0

2000-12-21 Thread Allan Pichler


StructCopy(structure)


-Original Message-
From: Johan Coens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 1:54 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0


How do you duplicate a structure in CF4.0?

-Original Message-
From: Allan Pichler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: donderdag 21 december 2000 10:40
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0


No it's not!

Allan Pichler
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-Original Message-
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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Duplicate supported in CF4.0


Quick question
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RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0

2000-12-21 Thread DeVoil, Nick

Johan

I believe you have to do a structNew() then CFLOOP through the original
structure copying each element.

This is easy if you know up front what elements the structure contains.
Otherwise you have to use isStruct() and isArray() on each element to
see if it's a nested structure or array,  if so create a corresponding
new one in the target structure.

Nick

-Original Message-
From: Johan Coens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 10:11 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0


Using StrucyCopy you still reference the original structure. So, when using
structCopy of an application or session variable you still have a pointer to
the shared memory


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Sent: donderdag 21 december 2000 10:55
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Subject: RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0



StructCopy(structure)


-Original Message-
From: Johan Coens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 1:54 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0


How do you duplicate a structure in CF4.0?

-Original Message-
From: Allan Pichler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: donderdag 21 december 2000 10:40
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0


No it's not!

Allan Pichler
Machine Dreams Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Johan Coens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 1:47 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Duplicate supported in CF4.0


Quick question
is the Duplicate function supported in CF4.0?

Best regards,
Johan Coens

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RE: Fusebox book

2000-12-21 Thread Chris Eland

Have been trying to get to either PDF or printed version from the
www.secretagents.com site - as soon as I click Add to order then I get a 404
- is it just me? 



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 It's VERY good.  A wonderful primer on practical CF 
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RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0

2000-12-21 Thread Johan Coens

Thanks Nick,

I was afraid I had to do it that way, I hoped 4.0 had some mechanism to do
it, but unfortunattly I have to do it my own.
Just came up with an idea (from Spectra). In Spectra there is a customtag
called deepcopy. What it does:

cfwddx action="cfml2wddx" input="(your struct to duplicate)" output="(the
wddx packet)"
cfwddx action="wddx2cfml" input="(the wddx packet)" output="(your
duplicated structure)"

This way you can easy dulpicate structs in CF4.0!

Regards,
Johan

-Original Message-
From: DeVoil, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: donderdag 21 december 2000 11:25
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0


Johan

I believe you have to do a structNew() then CFLOOP through the original
structure copying each element.

This is easy if you know up front what elements the structure contains.
Otherwise you have to use isStruct() and isArray() on each element to
see if it's a nested structure or array,  if so create a corresponding
new one in the target structure.

Nick

-Original Message-
From: Johan Coens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 10:11 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0


Using StrucyCopy you still reference the original structure. So, when using
structCopy of an application or session variable you still have a pointer to
the shared memory


-Original Message-
From: Allan Pichler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: donderdag 21 december 2000 10:55
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0



StructCopy(structure)


-Original Message-
From: Johan Coens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 1:54 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0


How do you duplicate a structure in CF4.0?

-Original Message-
From: Allan Pichler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: donderdag 21 december 2000 10:40
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0


No it's not!

Allan Pichler
Machine Dreams Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Johan Coens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 1:47 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Duplicate supported in CF4.0


Quick question
is the Duplicate function supported in CF4.0?

Best regards,
Johan Coens

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RE: append variable to a variable??

2000-12-21 Thread cfxvx100

I believe there is a function in CF called SetVariable that will allow you
to create custom vars.

-Original Message-
From: Paul Mone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 11:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: append variable to a variable??


You can use evaluate to do this to display variables:

cfset EdName1 = "one"
cfset EdName2 = "two"
cfset EdName3 = "three"

cfloop from="1" to="3" index="nIndex"
cfoutput#evaluate("EdName"  nIndex)#br/cfoutput
/cfloop

However you cannot use it on the left side of an experssion, i.e

THIS WONT WORK
cfset evaluate("EdName"  1) = "test"
/THIS WONT WORK

Maybe you should use an array.


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From: S R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 4:56 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: append variable to a variable??


Is there anyway to do this?

I have six variables in my database they are called:

EdName1, EdName2, etc.

It would be awesome if I could set a variable that could dynamically change
the number of each variable for me so I don't have to hard code the
variable.

For example (I know this doesn't work but it will get my point across:

cfset numvar = "2"

#EdName#numvar## = EdName2

Thanks for your help

Sal
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RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0

2000-12-21 Thread Steve Martin

Not entirely true. Structcopy does actually duplicate the structure in
question. I think there's some confusion here over cfset
somenewvar=anoldstruct which creates a pointer to the original. Structcopy
however only performs a shallow copy in that any embedded structures within
the structure that you are trying to duplicate aren't copied wholesale but
are referenced through pointers.

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Johan Coens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 21 December 2000 10:11
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0


Using StrucyCopy you still reference the original structure. So, when using
structCopy of an application or session variable you still have a pointer to
the shared memory


-Original Message-
From: Allan Pichler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: donderdag 21 december 2000 10:55
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0



StructCopy(structure)


-Original Message-
From: Johan Coens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 1:54 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0


How do you duplicate a structure in CF4.0?

-Original Message-
From: Allan Pichler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: donderdag 21 december 2000 10:40
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0


No it's not!

Allan Pichler
Machine Dreams Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Johan Coens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 1:47 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Duplicate supported in CF4.0


Quick question
is the Duplicate function supported in CF4.0?

Best regards,
Johan Coens

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RE: FileLocking error with CFFile

2000-12-21 Thread Steve Martin

Attached is a posting from a while back which addresses this issue (IIS4).

Other workarounds include wrapping a bit of exception habdling around the
code so that should the problem occur then you can queue the process i.e.
place the source and destination file refs in a db and reexecute it later.

Steve

-Original Message-
From: John McKown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 20 December 2000 21:41
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: FileLocking error with CFFile


I am getting the same exact error, and I was just looking to
this list for an answer.   I am posting this to keep the thread
alive and see if anyone has a solution.

John McKown, VP Business Services
Delaware.Net, Inc.
30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901
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fax: 302-736-5945
icq: 1495432



 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel Lancelot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 10:25 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: FW: FileLocking error with CFFile


 Any ideas with this?

 This error message is displayed (at random) when attempting to overwrite a
 file using CFFILE action = "Move"

 The code works most of the time, but sometimes displays this
 error - if the
 error is displayed, then waiting a couple of mins and hitting
 refresh, will
 normally execute the cffile fine.  It appears as if the file is getting
 locked for some reason.  This is in an admin backend, and is executed just
 after a preview of the existing gif file has been shown (might IIS be
 locking it?)

 Can anyone help suggest a reason/solution? otherwise it means a partial
 rewrite of the backend...

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Lowton
 Sent: 08 December 2000 15:17
 To: Daniel Lancelot
 Subject:


 ==

 Error Diagnostic Information
 Error processing CFFILE

 Unable to move file
 'c:\web_sites\brearleyGreens2\public\fileStore\residential\picsoth
 er\temp\pi
 cin1137167269.gif' to path
 'c:\web_sites\brearleyGreens2\public\fileStore\residential\picsoth
 er\picin11
 37167269.gif'. Access is denied. (error 5)

 The error occurred while processing an element with a general
 identifier of
 (CFFILE), occupying document position (90:3) to (92:108).


 Date/Time: 12/08/00 15:21:49
 Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT 4.0)
 Remote Address: 195.226.55.82
 HTTP Referer:


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Re: CF regular expressions buggy?

2000-12-21 Thread Larry W. Virden


From: BORKMAN Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 This code looks doubtful to me, for a few reasons:

Most of it is okay...

 (^[[:alnum:]]([._-]?[[:alnum:]]+)*+\@[[:alnum:]]+([.-]?[[:alnum:]]+)*\.[[:al
 pha:]]{1,4}$)
  ^ no multipler for the opening character?  Does that mean only
 a single alnum allowed before punctuation?  I would expect a "+" inserted
 here.

All this means is that the first character must be alphanumber.  From that
point on, 0 or more characters (the *) can be either .,_,- or 1 or more
additional Alphanumberics.

Oh - I know I have seen emails with + in them  - that's at least one thing
that is missing from the [._-] .  Also, I'm pretty certain I've seen
commas...  There are actually RFCs (the internet standards description
documents) on what is valid.  However note - I know that a similar
type of construct for looking to see if the input string has components
relatively valid for email addresses is considerably more complex, so
I suspect that you are opting for a 'mild' formatting validation pass.
Since the string really isn't a valid email address after passing this
test (since there is no way to tell for certain whether [EMAIL PROTECTED] is
a _real_ user at a _real_ site), I'm guessing the original poster is just
trying to be a bit helpful to his/her users.




   ^ what's the significance of the "?".  I'm not familiar
with "?" as a multiplier.  Looks like it should be left out.

? provides the ability to say "this string might be present - or might not".

  ^ what's the "+" for?  What is is
modifying?  Could be left out?

I agree here.  I mentioned earlier that it doesn't look right.

 On the other hand, I've never had much luck trying to understand other
 people's REs, so I may be talking garbage.  Anyone who can explain this RE
 to me, please feel free!!

I love regular expressions.  I'm always glad to help out...
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RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0

2000-12-21 Thread Johan Coens

But why doesn't allaire use StructCopy ... ;)

-Original Message-
From: Steve Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: donderdag 21 december 2000 11:43
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0


Not entirely true. Structcopy does actually duplicate the structure in
question. I think there's some confusion here over cfset
somenewvar=anoldstruct which creates a pointer to the original. Structcopy
however only performs a shallow copy in that any embedded structures within
the structure that you are trying to duplicate aren't copied wholesale but
are referenced through pointers.

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Johan Coens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 21 December 2000 10:11
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0


Using StrucyCopy you still reference the original structure. So, when using
structCopy of an application or session variable you still have a pointer to
the shared memory


-Original Message-
From: Allan Pichler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: donderdag 21 december 2000 10:55
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0



StructCopy(structure)


-Original Message-
From: Johan Coens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 1:54 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0


How do you duplicate a structure in CF4.0?

-Original Message-
From: Allan Pichler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: donderdag 21 december 2000 10:40
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0


No it's not!

Allan Pichler
Machine Dreams Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Johan Coens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 1:47 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Duplicate supported in CF4.0


Quick question
is the Duplicate function supported in CF4.0?

Best regards,
Johan Coens

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Re: WAY OT: C++ now Java

2000-12-21 Thread Larry W. Virden

I didn't see anyone else mention this one yet - Thinking in Java, by
Bruce Eckel, has two areas in which it has come recommended.  Mr. Eckel
has been writing books on teaching languages for quite some time - his
"Thinking in C++" is highly regarded.  His Thinking in Java is also
said to be quite good.

The second reason is more pragmatic.  I believe both books are available
in PDF format for downloading for free!

Check out http://www.bruceeckel.com/
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RE: [Compress HTML output]

2000-12-21 Thread Steve Martin

I just stumbled across this thread and I must say that it had never occurred
to me that you could zip html and have it unzipped at the client - should
read a few more RFCs eh!
Anyway, as excited as a small boy in a big room full of sweets I knocked up
a quick tag. Everyone please feel free to use/ignore/modify/etc.

!--- cf_gzip by Steve Martin 21/Dec/2000
Utilises cfx_gzip by Michael Peacock, New Media Designs, Inc., which is
based upon public domain code.

Usage: Enclose an entire page in cf_gzipyada yada/cf_gzip
 ---

cfswitch expression="#ThisTag.Executionmode#"
cfcase value="end"
!--- Set a couple of defaults. ---
!--- attributes.compress allows you to turn off compression for
ebugging  ---
cfparam name="attributes.compress" default="1"
!--- Compression level ---
cfparam name="attributes.level" default="7"
!--- Does the browser support gzip ---
CFIF listcontainsnocase(cgi.http_accept_encoding,"gzip") and
attributes.compress
!--- Create a temp filename ---
cfset tmpFile=ExpandPath(CreateUUID()  ".tmp")
!--- Write the generated content to the file ---
cffile action="WRITE"
file="#tmpFile#"
output="#ThisTag.GeneratedContent#"
addnewline="Yes"
!--- Blank out the generated content ---
cfset ThisTag.GeneratedContent=""
!--- Zip the file (creates a new file with .gz appended)---
CFX_GZip LEVEL="#attributes.level#" action=GZip 
infile=#tmpFile#
!--- Delete the original tempfile ---
cffile action="DELETE"
file="#tmpFile#"
!--- Serve the gzipped file  delete ---
cfheader name="Content-Encoding" value="gzip"
cfcontent type="text/html"
   file="#tmpFile#.gz"
   deletefile="Yes"
/CFIF
/cfcase
/cfswitch

ATB Steve Martin



-Original Message-
From: Zachary Bedell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 20 December 2000 17:55
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: [Compress HTML output]


-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Thanks for the reminder on that one!  I was going to do that...  I
even had RFC 2616 on my desk to look up how to do that, and I
completely forgot...

I've actually got some "real work" to do today (darn clients
always interrupting my fun!), but once I get that taken care of, I'll
integrate the various suggestions on this  see if I can turn it into
a real tag

Thanks again to everyone for the tips  pointers!

Best regards,
Zac Bedell


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RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0

2000-12-21 Thread Steve Martin

They do and they don't  ;-)
The Advanced CF course teaches the bits about structures and pointers with
reference to StructCopy(). However Duplicate() is much more generic than
StructCopy() i.e. can copy more than just structs, and (IIRC) performs a
deep copy.

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Johan Coens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 21 December 2000 11:11
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0


But why doesn't allaire use StructCopy ... ;)

-Original Message-
From: Steve Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: donderdag 21 december 2000 11:43
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0


Not entirely true. Structcopy does actually duplicate the structure in
question. I think there's some confusion here over cfset
somenewvar=anoldstruct which creates a pointer to the original. Structcopy
however only performs a shallow copy in that any embedded structures within
the structure that you are trying to duplicate aren't copied wholesale but
are referenced through pointers.

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Johan Coens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 21 December 2000 10:11
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0


Using StrucyCopy you still reference the original structure. So, when using
structCopy of an application or session variable you still have a pointer to
the shared memory


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Sent: donderdag 21 december 2000 10:55
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0



StructCopy(structure)


-Original Message-
From: Johan Coens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 1:54 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0


How do you duplicate a structure in CF4.0?

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Sent: donderdag 21 december 2000 10:40
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0


No it's not!

Allan Pichler
Machine Dreams Inc.

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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Duplicate supported in CF4.0


Quick question
is the Duplicate function supported in CF4.0?

Best regards,
Johan Coens

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RE: LOCKING revisited...

2000-12-21 Thread Philip Arnold - ASP

 Actually the reverse is true. You should as a developer place your READ
 locks. The way that the code optimizer in CF works it basically puts the
 lock around the assignments then processes. You will gain much better
 performance by manually placing these then allowing CF to do it
 for you. The main issue is that CF has to do the work to parse your
 file and ensure the
 locks are in place, then reprocess the code. By not allowing CF
 to perform this, it simply processes your code.

 I disagree, but I won't debate it any longer until I can carry
 out the performance test I posted a few messages ago and we will
 all know for sure one way or the other.

Actually, if you don't put your own locks in, CF puts it's own locks around
every command that needs one and since it's locking and unlocking a lot if
you have a whole list of commands that need them, this slows down the server

It's always good practice to do your own locking rather than let CF do it -
I know it's a bind, but it's worth it for speed and reliability

Philip Arnold
Director
Certified ColdFusion Developer
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RE: FileLocking error with CFFile

2000-12-21 Thread Steve Martin

Oops, no atachments allowed. Here it is in full:

Originally posted by Gregory Narain - ages ago.
===
All of the entries go into the
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\InetInfo\Parameters
key

ObjectCacheTTL (DWORD)
--
This thing supposedly tells IIS how long to hold on to the files.  They
have a special value (as opposed to using just 0!) of 0x that
supposedly disables the scavenger.

Defaults to 10 minutes.


ObjectFilesInCache (DWORD)
--
This reduces the total memory allowed to be in cache.  You can simply
set this one to zero.

Defaults to 1000 for every 32MB of memory.


MemoryCacheSize (DWORD)
---
This puppy caches system handles and other things for IIS (directory
listings, etc.)  You can set this to 0 and eliminate the caching
supposedly.

Defaults to 3072000, 3MB.


DisableMemoryCache (DWORD)
--
Well, this one I found from a reference to a knowledge book in the
forums.  Apparently, setting MemoryCache to 0 wasn't intuitive enough so
they made an an extra value.  Set this to 1 and it REALLY will work.  I
tried this one yesterday and it's all good to go now. KB Article Q191742
for reference.

Defaults.. it wasn't ever meant to be used!

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RE: Netscape 6 out UGH!!!!

2000-12-21 Thread Philip Arnold - ASP

 Known Netscape 6 bug list.
 http://www.richinstyle.com/bugs/mozilla.html

I just got a phone call from Rentokill about my Netscape 6 installation

hehehehe

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automated response

2000-12-21 Thread AArhin



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RE: append variable to a variable??

2000-12-21 Thread BORKMAN Lee

CFSET "var#num#" = num

It's beautiful.

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RE: Page Tracking hits :: User Movments on an Intranet

2000-12-21 Thread Paul Ihrig

is there a tutorial for this in the advanced wack book?
guess i should just look my self, sorry.

i cant use server logs.
they are turned off
thanks
-paul

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 Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 1:25 PM
 To:   CF-Talk
 Subject:  RE: Page Tracking  hits :: User Movments on an Intranet
 
 The anonymous way would be to assign a random ID to each new visitor and
 then record that ID with every page view (or fuseaction) into a database
 or text file.
 
 The membership-based way would be to have a user login  then track them
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  -Original Message-
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  Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 5:47 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Page Tracking  hits :: User Movments on an Intranet
  
  
  hello all!
  i know this has been asked befor, but i cant find the email.
  
  What software or utilities do you guys use to track user movments on
 your
  site?
  i need to see what parts of our intranet are really being utalized 
 what
  isnt.
  
  so i can do a rebuild.
  
  any helpp would be great!
  
  thank you
  
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cfhttp.responseheader

2000-12-21 Thread Tracy Bost

After writing an application that depends on the cfhttp.responseheader to find 
attributes returned in a cookie, all of a sudden, nothing
returns. no cfhttp.filecontent, nothing. The folks on the other end insist they 
haven't changed anything, although I have tried it with different browsers, cold 
fusion servers in different locations.  I'm not getting any connection failure errors 
or anything like that. Its just returning a completely blank page. Please someone help 
!


Thanks,
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RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0

2000-12-21 Thread Raymond Camden

Be aware that there is a similar issue in Duplicate. If you duplicate a
structure that has an array that has an element that is a struct, you will
get a pointer. To see this, run this code:

CFSET A = StructNew()
CFSET A.Arr = ArrayNew(1)
CFSET A.Arr[1] = "Simple"
CFSET A.Arr[2] = StructNew()

CFSET B = Duplicate(A)
CFSET B.Arr[1] = "Not simple"
CFOUTPUT
The simple value is NOT a pointer, #A.Arr[1]#
P
/CFOUTPUT

CFSET B.Arr[2].Foo = "Jedi"
CFOUTPUT
B.Arr[2].Foo is a pointer. Here is the proof:
#A.Arr[2].Foo#
/CFOUTPUT

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 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 5:43 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0


 Not entirely true. Structcopy does actually duplicate the structure in
 question. I think there's some confusion here over cfset
 somenewvar=anoldstruct which creates a pointer to the original.
 Structcopy
 however only performs a shallow copy in that any embedded
 structures within
 the structure that you are trying to duplicate aren't copied wholesale but
 are referenced through pointers.

 Steve



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RE: Fusebox book

2000-12-21 Thread Michael She

I just bought the book last night (PDF version)... and the first few pages 
are pretty good.


For 7 bucks, I think it was well worth it (so far!)


At 10:30 AM 12/21/00 +, Chris Eland you wrote:

Have been trying to get to either PDF or printed version from the
www.secretagents.com site - as soon as I click Add to order then I get a 404
- is it just me?



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  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: Fusebox book
 
 
  It's VERY good.  A wonderful primer on practical CF
  development.  The eBook
  is a steal, but having it on paper would surely be worth the trees!!
 
  have fun,
 
 
  Lee (Bjork) Borkman
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  -Original Message-
  From: Michael She [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
  Anyone read the fusebox book?  Is it worth buying?  The download PDF
  version seems pretty cheap so I'm tempted to buy it to give
  myself a crash
  course on Fusebox.
 
 
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Re: dynamically naming variables

2000-12-21 Thread Bud

On 12/20/00, Jay Brushett penned:
Hi,

I need to use the Evaluate function to dynamically name variables in a
cfloop.
Using the function on the right hand side of a cfset works fine of course
but CF won't let me use it on the left hand side (i.e. the variable name).

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

This will show you using randrange as the value were setting each one 
at. I'd preume you're looping through a list or whatnot to get the 
values. This will name the variables var1, var2, var3, etc.

cfloop index="num" from="1" to="10"
cfset random = randrange(100, 200)
cfset varname = "var"  num
cfset "#varname#" = random
CFOUTPUTvariable #num# = #evaluate(varname)#br/CFOUTPUT
/cfloop
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Re: Fusebox

2000-12-21 Thread Jeffry Houser



"Warrick, Mark" wrote:

 The fusebox methodology has many benefits, and I really don't think it adds any time 
to the development cycle.  In fact, I'm pretty sure it helps speed up development.


  Well, that has nothing to do w/ Fusebox.  Any programming methodology will offer
this benefit.  The key is having one in place and sticking to it.



 One of the greatest advantages of the style is that you can modularize you code, and 
in doing so, you can assign pieces of your application to various developers without 
worrying about them stepping on each other's toes.


  See above.  This is not unique to fusebox.




 Another advantage is that certain companies (such as mine) require it.  So if you 
don't do it, you're not going to get a job with certain companies.


  If you are not a consultant, that is complete hogwash, I think.  Especially with 
today's job market.  Fusebox (or whatever methodology the company uses) should be more 
than
willing to train on the methodology.  If you already know the language (What company
doesn't have enough trouble finding people who know the language?), learning the
coding practices should be easy enough.

  I did one job, where the first thing they did was sit me down and outline the
coding practices.  It took about a half hour sitting down with the lead developer.
I took notes, and then followed them.  No problems.



 Lastly, it's very simple to follow the programming flow of a fusebox app.  When 
something goes wrong, you simply search for the fuseaction in the index file and then 
you'll see right away all the templates in a single handy block that could be 
involved with the problem.


  As I said previously, any methodology worth its salt should offer this.  If
I don't know fusebox, then your app isn't going to be any easier to follow than
some other unknown methodology.  (It probably will be easier to follow than
random coding, though)

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Re: dynamically naming variables

2000-12-21 Thread Jay Brushett

Thanks everyone!
Really appreciate all the help.

Jay

At 08:40 AM 12/21/2000 -0500, you wrote:
On 12/20/00, Jay Brushett penned:
 Hi,
 
 I need to use the Evaluate function to dynamically name variables in a
 cfloop.
 Using the function on the right hand side of a cfset works fine of course
 but CF won't let me use it on the left hand side (i.e. the variable name).
 
 Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

 Strategy ~ Creativity ~ Technology   

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RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0

2000-12-21 Thread Johan Coens

Isn't is than always the best to use WDDX serialize/deserialize when
duplicating structures? I think this ensures it that you always have a
unique copy, and are not referencing any shared memory. Maybe a slight
performance decrease, but you're sure your application works the way you
want.

Regards,
Johan

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From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: donderdag 21 december 2000 14:20
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0


Be aware that there is a similar issue in Duplicate. If you duplicate a
structure that has an array that has an element that is a struct, you will
get a pointer. To see this, run this code:

CFSET A = StructNew()
CFSET A.Arr = ArrayNew(1)
CFSET A.Arr[1] = "Simple"
CFSET A.Arr[2] = StructNew()

CFSET B = Duplicate(A)
CFSET B.Arr[1] = "Not simple"
CFOUTPUT
The simple value is NOT a pointer, #A.Arr[1]#
P
/CFOUTPUT

CFSET B.Arr[2].Foo = "Jedi"
CFOUTPUT
B.Arr[2].Foo is a pointer. Here is the proof:
#A.Arr[2].Foo#
/CFOUTPUT

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 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 5:43 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Duplicate supported in CF4.0


 Not entirely true. Structcopy does actually duplicate the structure in
 question. I think there's some confusion here over cfset
 somenewvar=anoldstruct which creates a pointer to the original.
 Structcopy
 however only performs a shallow copy in that any embedded
 structures within
 the structure that you are trying to duplicate aren't copied wholesale but
 are referenced through pointers.

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Re: Fusebox

2000-12-21 Thread Erki Esken

One of the important things about FuseBox that I haven't seen mentioned
yet is how easy it is to design your applications using FuseBox.

Erki


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RE: LOCKING revisited...

2000-12-21 Thread Peter Theobald

Now I *KNOW* that is not true!
I've crashed my server enough to know Cold Fusion doesn't put it's own locks in.

At 11:50 AM 12/21/00 +, Philip Arnold - ASP wrote:
 Actually the reverse is true. You should as a developer place your READ
 locks. The way that the code optimizer in CF works it basically puts the
 lock around the assignments then processes. You will gain much better
 performance by manually placing these then allowing CF to do it
 for you. The main issue is that CF has to do the work to parse your
 file and ensure the
 locks are in place, then reprocess the code. By not allowing CF
 to perform this, it simply processes your code.

 I disagree, but I won't debate it any longer until I can carry
 out the performance test I posted a few messages ago and we will
 all know for sure one way or the other.

Actually, if you don't put your own locks in, CF puts it's own locks around
every command that needs one and since it's locking and unlocking a lot if
you have a whole list of commands that need them, this slows down the server

It's always good practice to do your own locking rather than let CF do it -
I know it's a bind, but it's worth it for speed and reliability

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Certified ColdFusion Developer
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The +.htr bug strikes again

2000-12-21 Thread Kevin Schmidt

Check out Hasbro Interactive.  They run entirely CF and haven't patched the
+.htr bug yet.  I alerted them to this fact.

Kevin Schmidt, Web Technology Manager
Allaire Certified Cold Fusion Developer
pwb inc.
integrated marketing communications
350 S. Main St., Suite 350
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The +.htr bug strikes again

2000-12-21 Thread Kevin Schmidt

Check out Hasbro Interactive.  They run entirely CF and haven't patched the
+.htr bug yet.  I alerted them to this fact.

Kevin Schmidt, Web Technology Manager
Allaire Certified Cold Fusion Developer
pwb inc.
integrated marketing communications
350 S. Main St., Suite 350
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734.995.5002 (fax)
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RE: I understand that ...

2000-12-21 Thread Neil Clark

have you tried installing Service Pack 3?

N

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RE: Fusebox

2000-12-21 Thread Hal Helms

It's certainly true that there is no one, true methodology -- Fusebox or
anything else. That said, one of the main reasons for a methodology (at
least from my standpoint) is to make team development easier. A proprietary
methodology has an inherent limitation--every new team member has a learning
curve to go through. Unless the proprietary methodology has overwhelming
advantages, I think it makes much more sense to pick a popular one
(CFObjects, Fusebox, etc.) and work within that framework.

Hal Helms
== See www.ColdFusionTraining.com for info on "Best Practices with
ColdFusion  Fusebox" training, Jan 22-25 ==


-Original Message-
From: Michael She [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 11:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Fusebox


FuseBox is a methodology that is open to the public, thus adopted by others.

Some people might like it, others won't.  What you can do is designyour own
methodology... maybe picking up the best aspects from different programming
methodologies you've encountered in the past.  Programming methods are very
subjective as there is no true 'right' and only way.


At 02:22 PM 12/20/00 +, war ape you wrote:


Whats the whole point of Fusebox?
I don't see how it makes an application any less proprietary
i i know it helps modularize an application for reuse, but how does it help
make the application more understandable to other programmers?
Most don't use fusebox, so right there its been made harder
also i think it adds a dense layer of complexity to an application,
basically adding another 10-15% work to the appllication.
I don't see that it does much that could not be achieved with a
standardized
naming convention.
Sorry if i seem the philistine, but my mantra has always been simplicity,
simplicity is what makes an application more accessible to later
programmers

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Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?

2000-12-21 Thread Greg Wolfinger

Hey Guys:

I e-mail Michael Dinowitz about a week ago and havn't herd back yetbut I think it 
would be a great idea to start a new mailing list.  CF-SQL would be great because you 
could post all your questions about databasing and sql, because we all run into those 
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e-mail so that Michael strongly consiers starting CF-SQL.  So what do you guys think?

--Greg


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RE: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?

2000-12-21 Thread DeVoil, Nick

 CF-SQL would be great

Well personally I preferred it when everything was on one list,
but if there *was* a CF-SQL list I'd certainly sign up for it.

Nick

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Re: [Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?]

2000-12-21 Thread Alex

I don't see a benefit.
why don't you just join a sqlserver, oracle, or "major database"
mailing list?

"Greg Wolfinger" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey Guys:

I e-mail Michael Dinowitz about a week ago and havn't herd back yetbut I
think it would be a great idea to start a new mailing list.  CF-SQL would be
great because you could post all your questions about databasing and sql,
because we all run into those problems when working with CF.  Hopefully I will
get a good enough response from this e-mail so that Michael strongly consiers
starting CF-SQL.  So what do you guys think?

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Re: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?

2000-12-21 Thread Greg Wolfinger

 Well personally I preferred it when everything was on one list

Me too Nick, but I don't think SQL and Database questions are too welcome on
this list.  That is why I recommended a CF-SQL list.

-Greg
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Subject: RE: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?


  CF-SQL would be great

 Well personally I preferred it when everything was on one list,
 but if there *was* a CF-SQL list I'd certainly sign up for it.

 Nick

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RE: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?

2000-12-21 Thread Bernd VanSkiver

I'd sign up for a CF-SQL list.

Bernd VanSkiver
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-Original Message-
From: Greg Wolfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 9:10 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?


Hey Guys:

I e-mail Michael Dinowitz about a week ago and havn't herd back yetbut I
think it would be a great idea to start a new mailing list.  CF-SQL would be
great because you could post all your questions about databasing and sql,
because we all run into those problems when working with CF.  Hopefully I
will get a good enough response from this e-mail so that Michael strongly
consiers starting CF-SQL.  So what do you guys think?

--Greg
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RE: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?

2000-12-21 Thread DeVoil, Nick

 I don't think SQL and Database questions are too welcome on
 this list.

I must be kind of unobservant, I hadn't noticed that.
Is that right?

I mean, as you say, CF and databases are pretty inseparable.

For me, two of the things that make this a great list are:

1. The breadth of subjects covered

2. The willingness of so many people to answer supposedly
   OT questions. Unlike some lists where people mentioning
   something OT always get flamed.

Nick


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Re: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?

2000-12-21 Thread Dave Hannum

 Well personally I preferred it when everything was on one list

Me too Nick, but I don't think SQL and Database questions are
too welcome on this list.  That is why I recommended a CF-SQL
list.


Read what you want to read;
Delete what you don't want to read;
Reply to what you want to reply to;
Don't read the "Don't Read - Test" posts;
and above all,
Unsubscribe when you're going to be away!
(especially if you have an out of office autoresponder!)

One list for eveything works for me.  That way, I only have to unsubscribe
from one list when I'm away!

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Re: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?

2000-12-21 Thread Dylan Bromby

I don't know about that. I've been on this list for well over 2 years and I
don't recall seeing people flamed for asking SQL-related questions,
*especially* if they're related to CF. I mean that's what a CF/SQL list
would be right? SQL issues related to CF? Which is what people discuss here
all the time. I'm not saying it's a bad idea, I just think it's a need
that's already fulfilled here. And I could easily be wrong :).



- Original Message -
From: "Greg Wolfinger" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?


  Well personally I preferred it when everything was on one list

 Me too Nick, but I don't think SQL and Database questions are too welcome
on
 this list.  That is why I recommended a CF-SQL list.

 -Greg
 - Original Message -
 From: "DeVoil, Nick" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 10:29 AM
 Subject: RE: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?


   CF-SQL would be great
 
  Well personally I preferred it when everything was on one list,
  but if there *was* a CF-SQL list I'd certainly sign up for it.
 
  Nick
 
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RE: Finding the Class ID for a component

2000-12-21 Thread Dave Watts

 I'm futzing around with a COM object and I keep getting this 
 error:
 
 | Error trying to create object specified in the tag.
 | COM error 0x800401F3. Invalid class string
 
 Now, I assume this is telling me I'm not giving it the CLSID 
 that it needs. If that is the case, does anyone know how I can 
 look up the class ID of the component I am trying to use? I've 
 looked all over Micorosft's site, but can't find anything and 
 Allaire's forum keeps timing out.

The likely cause of the problem is that you haven't registered your COM
object on your system. You have to do this before you can use it. To
register the component, find a copy of REGSVR32.EXE on your system, and run
it from the command line:

regsvr32 myobj.dll

Generally, you use a "friendly" name rather than a CLSID to reference most
COM objects. You can find CLSID values and other info about registered COM
objects by using the OLE/COM Object Viewer (OLEVIEW.EXE). You can get this
from somewhere on the MS site, I think, and with Visual Studio.

 Also, to make this CF related, does anyone know the syntax to 
 pass the CLSID when using cfscript to call the object instead 
 of cfobject?

If I understand correctly, you just want to know how to instantiate objects
within CFSCRIPT instead of using CFOBJECT. You can do this with the
CreateObject function, which I think was introduced in CF 4.5.x:

cfscript
myobj = CreateObject("COM", "MyObj.Name");
/cfscript

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RE: CF 4.51sp2 Memory Usage Plateau

2000-12-21 Thread Dave Watts

 At what point is memory usage excessive:
 When memory usage exceeds physical memory?
 When memory is x% of swap?
 
 Still trying to get a handle on what the memory plateau is 
 for CF

This is a hard question to answer. Generally, you want to assume that all
available memory will be available (and potentially used) by CF - you don't
want to run CF and other services on the same machine. Because of the
performance penalty incurred by releasing and reacquiring memory, CF 4.5.x
simply retains all memory used.

So, the question becomes, how much memory does your application need? You
can generally determine this by capacity planning tests. You want to provide
as much memory in the server as your application requires - memory is cheap.

The problem with CF 4.5.x memory allocation isn't that it might consume all
the available server memory, but rather that if you have any memory leaks,
the effects of those leaks will cause the server to run out of memory to
consume; in this state, the server will eventually become unresponsive and
will require a restart. The biggest cause of memory leaks, in my experience,
has been the database drivers used by CF. For example, there are memory
leaks in several versions of MDAC drivers, as well as within versions of the
Oracle Net8 client.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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Re: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?

2000-12-21 Thread Nick Call

cf_insert_2_cents_worth

I for one appreciate database and SQL discussions on this list.  I find the
information very useful.  Good database design and knowledge of the SQL
language is a key part of being a better CF programmer. However, if a
separate list is born, I will join it.

/cf_insert_2_cents_worth

cf_happy_holidays
Nick Call
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- Original Message -
From: "Greg Wolfinger" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?


  Well personally I preferred it when everything was on one list

 Me too Nick, but I don't think SQL and Database questions are too welcome
on
 this list.  That is why I recommended a CF-SQL list.

 -Greg
 - Original Message -
 From: "DeVoil, Nick" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 10:29 AM
 Subject: RE: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?


   CF-SQL would be great
 
  Well personally I preferred it when everything was on one list,
  but if there *was* a CF-SQL list I'd certainly sign up for it.
 
  Nick
 
  MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE
 
 
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Dynamic filename with CFCONTENT

2000-12-21 Thread Scott Weikert

(Sent this yesterday, but I believe it got ate due to the mail server issues Michael 
mentioned...)

Hey gang - 

Trying to set up a page to accept a few options, build up a path, and spit out a file 
via CFCONTENT to the user. But it seems to choke on using a variable in "FILE" instead 
of a flat-out path/filename. Any thoughts?

Also, in a related note - anyone know the mime type for a straight-up executable, as 
opposed to a zip file, MS Excel file, etc.?

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RE: The +.htr bug strikes again

2000-12-21 Thread Joshua Miller

What is the patch? Where can we get it?

Joshua Miller
Web Development
Eagle Technologies Group, Inc.
Business Solutions for the Next Generation
www.eagletgi.com http://www.eagletgi.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 11:08 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: The +.htr bug strikes again


Check out Hasbro Interactive.  They run entirely CF and haven't patched the
+.htr bug yet.  I alerted them to this fact.

Kevin Schmidt, Web Technology Manager
Allaire Certified Cold Fusion Developer
pwb inc.
integrated marketing communications
350 S. Main St., Suite 350
Ann Arbor, MI 48104
734.995.5000 (tel)
734.995.5002 (fax)
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Re: Finding the Class ID for a component

2000-12-21 Thread Todd Ashworth

Well, actually this is an error resulting from the code snippet you gave me
a few days back ;)

Here's what I edited it to.

cfscript
  Encoder1 = CreateObject("COM", "ASF.RealTimeEncoder");
  Encoder2 = CreateObject("COM", "ASF.RealTimeEncoder");
  Encoder1.LoadASD("C:\LowFiConfig.wme");
  Encoder2.LoadASD("C:\HiFiConfig.wme");
  Encoder1.InputSourceFile = "#URL.file#";
  Encoder2.InputSourceFile = "#URL.file#";
  Encoder1.Start();
  Encoder2.Start();
  Encoder1.RecordFileName = "z:\hifi_audio\#Variables.TempFileName2#.asf";
  Encoder2.RecordFileName = "z:\lowfi_audio\#Variables.TempFileName2#.asf";
  Encoder1.RecordStart();
  Encoder2.RecordStart();
  Encoder1.RecordStop();
  Encoder2.RecordStop();
  Encoder1.Stop();
  Encoder2.Stop();
 /cfscript

I'm not sure why the object wouldn't have been registered when I installed
the SDK, but I've seen it happen before.  I'll give regsvr32 a try.

Todd Ashworth

- Original Message -
From: "Dave Watts" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 10:53 AM
Subject: RE: Finding the Class ID for a component


|  I'm futzing around with a COM object and I keep getting this
|  error:
| 
|  | Error trying to create object specified in the tag.
|  | COM error 0x800401F3. Invalid class string
| 
|  Now, I assume this is telling me I'm not giving it the CLSID
|  that it needs. If that is the case, does anyone know how I can
|  look up the class ID of the component I am trying to use? I've
|  looked all over Micorosft's site, but can't find anything and
|  Allaire's forum keeps timing out.
|
| The likely cause of the problem is that you haven't registered your COM
| object on your system. You have to do this before you can use it. To
| register the component, find a copy of REGSVR32.EXE on your system, and
run
| it from the command line:
|
| regsvr32 myobj.dll
|
| Generally, you use a "friendly" name rather than a CLSID to reference most
| COM objects. You can find CLSID values and other info about registered COM
| objects by using the OLE/COM Object Viewer (OLEVIEW.EXE). You can get this
| from somewhere on the MS site, I think, and with Visual Studio.
|
|  Also, to make this CF related, does anyone know the syntax to
|  pass the CLSID when using cfscript to call the object instead
|  of cfobject?
|
| If I understand correctly, you just want to know how to instantiate
objects
| within CFSCRIPT instead of using CFOBJECT. You can do this with the
| CreateObject function, which I think was introduced in CF 4.5.x:
|
| cfscript
| myobj = CreateObject("COM", "MyObj.Name");
| /cfscript
|
| Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
| http://www.figleaf.com/
| voice: (202) 797-5496
| fax: (202) 797-5444
|



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Re: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?

2000-12-21 Thread Todd Ashworth

I vote not to separate them out.  There are already too many lists as it is
(cf-talk, cf-server, cf-linux, cf-community, etc, etc, etc.)

Todd Ashworth

- Original Message -
From: "Nick Call" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?


| cf_insert_2_cents_worth
|
| I for one appreciate database and SQL discussions on this list.  I find
the
| information very useful.  Good database design and knowledge of the SQL
| language is a key part of being a better CF programmer. However, if a
| separate list is born, I will join it.
|
| /cf_insert_2_cents_worth
|
| cf_happy_holidays
| Nick Call
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|
|
| - Original Message -
| From: "Greg Wolfinger" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 8:36 AM
| Subject: Re: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?
|
|
|   Well personally I preferred it when everything was on one list
| 
|  Me too Nick, but I don't think SQL and Database questions are too
welcome
| on
|  this list.  That is why I recommended a CF-SQL list.
| 
|  -Greg
|  - Original Message -
|  From: "DeVoil, Nick" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 10:29 AM
|  Subject: RE: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?
| 
| 
|CF-SQL would be great
|  
|   Well personally I preferred it when everything was on one list,
|   but if there *was* a CF-SQL list I'd certainly sign up for it.
|  
|   Nick
|  
|   MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE



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RE: Finding the Class ID for a component

2000-12-21 Thread Simon Horwith

you can download OLE View from:
http://www.microsoft.com/com/resources/oleview.asp

~Simon

 Simon Horwith
 Certified ColdFusion Instructor
 Certified ColdFusion Developer
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-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 10:53 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Finding the Class ID for a component


 I'm futzing around with a COM object and I keep getting this 
 error:
 
 | Error trying to create object specified in the tag.
 | COM error 0x800401F3. Invalid class string
 
 Now, I assume this is telling me I'm not giving it the CLSID 
 that it needs. If that is the case, does anyone know how I can 
 look up the class ID of the component I am trying to use? I've 
 looked all over Micorosft's site, but can't find anything and 
 Allaire's forum keeps timing out.

The likely cause of the problem is that you haven't registered your COM
object on your system. You have to do this before you can use it. To
register the component, find a copy of REGSVR32.EXE on your system, and run
it from the command line:

regsvr32 myobj.dll

Generally, you use a "friendly" name rather than a CLSID to reference most
COM objects. You can find CLSID values and other info about registered COM
objects by using the OLE/COM Object Viewer (OLEVIEW.EXE). You can get this
from somewhere on the MS site, I think, and with Visual Studio.

 Also, to make this CF related, does anyone know the syntax to 
 pass the CLSID when using cfscript to call the object instead 
 of cfobject?

If I understand correctly, you just want to know how to instantiate objects
within CFSCRIPT instead of using CFOBJECT. You can do this with the
CreateObject function, which I think was introduced in CF 4.5.x:

cfscript
myobj = CreateObject("COM", "MyObj.Name");
/cfscript

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RE: The +.htr bug strikes again

2000-12-21 Thread Eric Fickes

So you're wanting everybody to take advantage of Hasbro's mistake before
they can fix it?

E+htr

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Check out Hasbro Interactive.  They run entirely CF and haven't patched the
+.htr bug yet.  I alerted them to this fact.

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Allaire Certified Cold Fusion Developer
pwb inc.
integrated marketing communications
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RE: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?

2000-12-21 Thread Larry Juncker

I have to agree that I do not mind having everything here.  It makes reading
email easy and you don't have to jump all over.  However, if Michael started
a separate list, I would join.

Larry Juncker
Senior Cold Fusion Developer
Heartland Communications Group, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Greg Wolfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 9:10 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?


Hey Guys:

I e-mail Michael Dinowitz about a week ago and havn't herd back yetbut I
think it would be a great idea to start a new mailing list.  CF-SQL would be
great because you could post all your questions about databasing and sql,
because we all run into those problems when working with CF.  Hopefully I
will get a good enough response from this e-mail so that Michael strongly
consiers starting CF-SQL.  So what do you guys think?

--Greg
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Re: CF 4.51sp2 Memory Usage Plateau

2000-12-21 Thread C Frederic Valone

What versions of the net8 and mdac drivers are susceptable to the memory leak?
 Frederic

Dave Watts wrote:

  At what point is memory usage excessive:
  When memory usage exceeds physical memory?
  When memory is x% of swap?
 
  Still trying to get a handle on what the memory plateau is
  for CF

 This is a hard question to answer. Generally, you want to assume that all
 available memory will be available (and potentially used) by CF - you don't
 want to run CF and other services on the same machine. Because of the
 performance penalty incurred by releasing and reacquiring memory, CF 4.5.x
 simply retains all memory used.

 So, the question becomes, how much memory does your application need? You
 can generally determine this by capacity planning tests. You want to provide
 as much memory in the server as your application requires - memory is cheap.

 The problem with CF 4.5.x memory allocation isn't that it might consume all
 the available server memory, but rather that if you have any memory leaks,
 the effects of those leaks will cause the server to run out of memory to
 consume; in this state, the server will eventually become unresponsive and
 will require a restart. The biggest cause of memory leaks, in my experience,
 has been the database drivers used by CF. For example, there are memory
 leaks in several versions of MDAC drivers, as well as within versions of the
 Oracle Net8 client.

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
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re: RE: The +.htr bug strikes again

2000-12-21 Thread mikec

yeah my life is complete now, i have the sourcecode for hasbro, gimme a break, 
i think most of us on here have better things to do that swipe code of a site, 
especially  seeing as all you have to do is ask on the list and people usually will 
give you code if needed


 ** Original Subject: RE: The +.htr bug strikes again
 ** Original Sender: Eric Fickes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ** Original Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 12:06:58 -0500

 ** Original Message follows... 


 So you're wanting everybody to take advantage of Hasbro's mistake before
 they can fix it?
 
 E+htr
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
 Check out Hasbro Interactive.  They run entirely CF and haven't patched the
 +.htr bug yet.  I alerted them to this fact.
 
 Kevin Schmidt, Web Technology Manager
 Allaire Certified Cold Fusion Developer
 pwb inc.
 integrated marketing communications
 350 S. Main St., Suite 350
 Ann Arbor, MI 48104
 734.995.5000 (tel)
 734.995.5002 (fax)
 www.pwb.com

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RE: The +.htr bug strikes again

2000-12-21 Thread misty . d . woodward

Webexpose.net clients and all the resold client are all affected by this
as well.  I moved my site off of them because they refused to fix the
bug.  Ive emailed them for about a month now about it and trying to
contact their clients about it but they refuse to answer back or even
fix.  I just checked and even after this long they still have the bug.
guess they don't care.

Misy

-Original Message-
From: schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 10:08 AM
To: cf-talk
Cc: schmidt
Subject: The +.htr bug strikes again


Check out Hasbro Interactive.  They run entirely CF and haven't patched
the
+.htr bug yet.  I alerted them to this fact.

Kevin Schmidt, Web Technology Manager
Allaire Certified Cold Fusion Developer
pwb inc.
integrated marketing communications
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Ann Arbor, MI 48104
734.995.5000 (tel)
734.995.5002 (fax)
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Re: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?

2000-12-21 Thread Dick Applebaum

Greg

I would *not* like to see the CF list subdivide... where does it end:

   CF-SQL
   CF-Objects
   CF-Verity
   CF-Mail
   CF-WDDX
   CF-Javascript

One of the major advantages of CF is it's integration of SQL database 
(and other components).

I personally enjoy and benefit from the variety of topics on this 
list... it is easy to sort/delete/ignore items that are not of 
interest.

MHO

Dick



At 10:09 AM -0500 12/21/00, Greg Wolfinger wrote:
Hey Guys:

I e-mail Michael Dinowitz about a week ago and havn't herd back 
yetbut I think it would be a great idea to start a new mailing 
list.  CF-SQL would be great because you could post all your 
questions about databasing and sql, because we all run into those 
problems when working with CF.  Hopefully I will get a good enough 
response from this e-mail so that Michael strongly consiers starting 
CF-SQL.  So what do you guys think?

--Greg


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Re: The +.htr bug strikes again

2000-12-21 Thread Kevin Schmidt

I din't imply that.  Just thought I would let everyone know.
- Original Message -
From: "Eric Fickes" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 10:05 AM
Subject: RE: The +.htr bug strikes again


 So you're wanting everybody to take advantage of Hasbro's mistake before
 they can fix it?

 E+htr

 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

 Check out Hasbro Interactive.  They run entirely CF and haven't patched
the
 +.htr bug yet.  I alerted them to this fact.

 Kevin Schmidt, Web Technology Manager
 Allaire Certified Cold Fusion Developer
 pwb inc.
 integrated marketing communications
 350 S. Main St., Suite 350
 Ann Arbor, MI 48104
 734.995.5000 (tel)
 734.995.5002 (fax)
 www.pwb.com

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RE: The +.htr bug strikes again

2000-12-21 Thread ibtoad

I used them for a month and was also very unhappy with their service.
Be Afraid!!

Rich

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 11:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: The +.htr bug strikes again


Webexpose.net clients and all the resold client are all affected by this
as well.  I moved my site off of them because they refused to fix the
bug.  Ive emailed them for about a month now about it and trying to
contact their clients about it but they refuse to answer back or even
fix.  I just checked and even after this long they still have the bug.
guess they don't care.

Misy

-Original Message-
From: schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 10:08 AM
To: cf-talk
Cc: schmidt
Subject: The +.htr bug strikes again


Check out Hasbro Interactive.  They run entirely CF and haven't patched
the
+.htr bug yet.  I alerted them to this fact.

Kevin Schmidt, Web Technology Manager
Allaire Certified Cold Fusion Developer
pwb inc.
integrated marketing communications
350 S. Main St., Suite 350
Ann Arbor, MI 48104
734.995.5000 (tel)
734.995.5002 (fax)
www.pwb.com
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Re: (ot) Domain Name Database

2000-12-21 Thread Philip Denlinger

 What I want is a listing of:
 www.*sport*.???
 
 for domain names



http://www.domainsurfer.com/

specifically:

http://www.domainsurfer.com/ssearch.cgi?dom=sport


--philip


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Re: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?

2000-12-21 Thread paul smith

Who said that?

At 10:36 AM 12/21/00 -0500, you wrote:
Me too Nick, but I don't think SQL and Database questions are too welcome on
this list.


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Re: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?

2000-12-21 Thread Michael Dinowitz

Its set up and will be 'released' today with the Studio list. I've been a
little tied up due to the new baby.


 Hey Guys:

 I e-mail Michael Dinowitz about a week ago and havn't herd back yetbut
I think it would be a great idea to start a new mailing list.  CF-SQL would
be great because you could post all your questions about databasing and sql,
because we all run into those problems when working with CF.  Hopefully I
will get a good enough response from this e-mail so that Michael strongly
consiers starting CF-SQL.  So what do you guys think?

 --Greg



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Re: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?

2000-12-21 Thread Gregory Harris

Agreed, plus there is my favorite issue of mailing list glut, attempting
manage how many mailing lists?  Plus if I take off on vacation and want to
unsubscribe for a bit?  That could be as many as 6-7 emails, and I still
might not be able to get off all the lists. So just leave at the current
status with CF-Talk, CF-Community and the other specialist lists such as
CF-Wap and CF-Server.

Gregory Harris
Web Developer
Stirling Bridge Group LLC

- Original Message -
From: "Dick Applebaum" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?


 Greg

 I would *not* like to see the CF list subdivide... where does it end:

CF-SQL
CF-Objects
CF-Verity
CF-Mail
CF-WDDX
CF-Javascript

 One of the major advantages of CF is it's integration of SQL database
 (and other components).

 I personally enjoy and benefit from the variety of topics on this
 list... it is easy to sort/delete/ignore items that are not of
 interest.

 MHO

 Dick



 At 10:09 AM -0500 12/21/00, Greg Wolfinger wrote:
 Hey Guys:
 
 I e-mail Michael Dinowitz about a week ago and havn't herd back
 yetbut I think it would be a great idea to start a new mailing
 list.  CF-SQL would be great because you could post all your
 questions about databasing and sql, because we all run into those
 problems when working with CF.  Hopefully I will get a good enough
 response from this e-mail so that Michael strongly consiers starting
 CF-SQL.  So what do you guys think?
 
 --Greg
 


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Re: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?

2000-12-21 Thread Stephen M Aylor

But it appears the natural instincts of programmers to have extreme "order"
continues to shine thru .

instead of making seperate lists . enforcing the once desired subject
Preface codes sounds attractive

cf-talk[SQL] - whats faster? select "*" or .
cf-talk[Verity] - refreshing collection fails
cf-talk[COM] - how to register the damn object!!!

etc ..

- Original Message -
From: "Dick Applebaum" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?


 Greg

 I would *not* like to see the CF list subdivide... where does it end:

CF-SQL
CF-Objects
CF-Verity
CF-Mail
CF-WDDX
CF-Javascript

 One of the major advantages of CF is it's integration of SQL database
 (and other components).

 I personally enjoy and benefit from the variety of topics on this
 list... it is easy to sort/delete/ignore items that are not of
 interest.

 MHO

 Dick



 At 10:09 AM -0500 12/21/00, Greg Wolfinger wrote:
 Hey Guys:
 
 I e-mail Michael Dinowitz about a week ago and havn't herd back
 yetbut I think it would be a great idea to start a new mailing
 list.  CF-SQL would be great because you could post all your
 questions about databasing and sql, because we all run into those
 problems when working with CF.  Hopefully I will get a good enough
 response from this e-mail so that Michael strongly consiers starting
 CF-SQL.  So what do you guys think?
 
 --Greg
 


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Adding items to Shopping cart

2000-12-21 Thread JayB

I apologize if this was sent twice...sent it yesterday and didn't see it 
show up


Basic Question...

Most shopping carts I've seen/used require you to click to add a product or 
multiple of one product, which takes you to some calculate page, then back 
to add a different item,  the back to the calculate page etc. Many of our 
customer will buy multiples of more than 20 different items in one shopping 
visit. All this back and forth just doesn't work for our customers.

One of the things I really like about our current cgi shopping cart system 
is that a customer can add multiple items to the cart from one page with a 
single click of the add to basket button.

as in


Selection Page
qty item
[ 2 ]   widget a
[   ]widget b
[ 6 ]   widget c
[   ]widget d
[ 2 ]   widget e
[   ]widget f

[Add to cart] - One click adds all the different items to the cart.


Calculate page

You have the following in your cart

qty item
[ 2 ]   widget a
[ 6 ]   widget c
[ 2 ]   widget e


I haven't looked into it yet but I thought I'd ask first...can CF do this 
kind of thing?



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Re: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?

2000-12-21 Thread Michael Dinowitz

SQL is a technology used outside of CF so the list is for CF and JRun users.
I'm not going to sub-divide it more than that as there's really no use for
it. As for a 'mass unsubscribe', I've already written that template for
admin use and I can put it up for people who want to get off ALL the lists
for the holidays.


 Agreed, plus there is my favorite issue of mailing list glut, attempting
 manage how many mailing lists?  Plus if I take off on vacation and want to
 unsubscribe for a bit?  That could be as many as 6-7 emails, and I still
 might not be able to get off all the lists. So just leave at the current
 status with CF-Talk, CF-Community and the other specialist lists such as
 CF-Wap and CF-Server.

 Gregory Harris
 Web Developer
 Stirling Bridge Group LLC

 - Original Message -
 From: "Dick Applebaum" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 8:38 AM
 Subject: Re: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?


  Greg
 
  I would *not* like to see the CF list subdivide... where does it end:
 
 CF-SQL
 CF-Objects
 CF-Verity
 CF-Mail
 CF-WDDX
 CF-Javascript
 
  One of the major advantages of CF is it's integration of SQL database
  (and other components).
 
  I personally enjoy and benefit from the variety of topics on this
  list... it is easy to sort/delete/ignore items that are not of
  interest.
 
  MHO
 
  Dick
 
 
 
  At 10:09 AM -0500 12/21/00, Greg Wolfinger wrote:
  Hey Guys:
  
  I e-mail Michael Dinowitz about a week ago and havn't herd back
  yetbut I think it would be a great idea to start a new mailing
  list.  CF-SQL would be great because you could post all your
  questions about databasing and sql, because we all run into those
  problems when working with CF.  Hopefully I will get a good enough
  response from this e-mail so that Michael strongly consiers starting
  CF-SQL.  So what do you guys think?
  
  --Greg
  
 
 

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Re: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?

2000-12-21 Thread Greg Wolfinger

 Who said that?

It just has seemed like that in the past to me.
- Original Message -
From: "paul smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?


 Who said that?

 At 10:36 AM 12/21/00 -0500, you wrote:
 Me too Nick, but I don't think SQL and Database questions are too welcome
on
 this list.



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RE: The +.htr bug strikes again

2000-12-21 Thread Philip Arnold - ASP

 Webexpose.net clients and all the resold client are all affected by this
 as well.  I moved my site off of them because they refused to fix the
 bug.  Ive emailed them for about a month now about it and trying to
 contact their clients about it but they refuse to answer back or even
 fix.  I just checked and even after this long they still have the bug.
 guess they don't care.

Why do you think they're called WebExpose? hehehe

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Director
Certified ColdFusion Developer
ASP Multimedia Limited
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RE: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?

2000-12-21 Thread Philip Arnold - ASP

 I would *not* like to see the CF list subdivide... where does it end:
 
CF-SQL
CF-Objects
CF-Verity
CF-Mail
CF-WDDX
CF-Javascript

Not forgetting
CF-IISbugs
CF-HTMLlayoutQuestion
CF-DumbAssQuestionAsICan'tBeBotheredToReadTheDocs
CF-I'mTooLazyToTestSoCanYouDoItForMe
CF-ICan'tRemeberToTypeASubject

Or
CF-WhineAboutNothingInParticular
g

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RE: Fusebox book

2000-12-21 Thread Tobe Goldfinger

So buy it from http://www.fusionauthority.com

(the book is excellent)

Tobe


At 05:30 AM 12/21/2000 , you wrote:
Have been trying to get to either PDF or printed version from the
www.secretagents.com site - as soon as I click Add to order then I get a 404
- is it just me?



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  have fun,
 
 
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PATCH was RE: The +.htr bug strikes again

2000-12-21 Thread Giesbrecht, Jeffrey


Here is info specifically about the +.htr bug:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms00-031.asp

here is some great info on locking down your NT box:
http://x68.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=707171112.1CONTEXT=977413759.966590528hit
num=0



Jeff Giesbrecht

-Original Message-
From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 10:00 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: The +.htr bug strikes again


What is the patch? Where can we get it?

Joshua Miller
Web Development
Eagle Technologies Group, Inc.
Business Solutions for the Next Generation
www.eagletgi.com http://www.eagletgi.com
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-Original Message-
From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 11:08 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: The +.htr bug strikes again


Check out Hasbro Interactive.  They run entirely CF and haven't patched the
+.htr bug yet.  I alerted them to this fact.

Kevin Schmidt, Web Technology Manager
Allaire Certified Cold Fusion Developer
pwb inc.
integrated marketing communications
350 S. Main St., Suite 350
Ann Arbor, MI 48104
734.995.5000 (tel)
734.995.5002 (fax)
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RE: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?

2000-12-21 Thread Duane Boudreau



 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 11:56 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?
 
 
 Its set up and will be 'released' today with the Studio list. I've been a
 little tied up due to the new baby.

You'll have to get used to that say for the next 18 to 20 years ;)

Duane




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RE: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?

2000-12-21 Thread Paul Sinclair

I would also vote (if I could understand the ballot) NOT to subdivide this
list any further. I have never seen any problems getting CF-SQL related
questions answered nor do I recall any suggestions that they are unwelcome.

It is helpful for me to scan the headers on all the emails on this list and
open up those that are of interest, either because (1) I am dealing with a
similar issue at the time; (2) it is addressing something that I have had
problems with in the past; (3) calls my attention to some functionality that
I wasn't aware of or didn't understand; (4) [Purposely left blank for future
use]. I'd prefer to have this list continue as is with a general scope so
that I don't have to track several different lists to have the benefits
listed.

Having said that, yes - I would subscribe to CF-SQL if this list is
subdivided to exclude such topics.

Paul Sinclair


 -Original Message-
 From: Todd Ashworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 11:04 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?


 I vote not to separate them out.  There are already too many
 lists as it is
 (cf-talk, cf-server, cf-linux, cf-community, etc, etc, etc.)

 Todd Ashworth

 - Original Message -
 From: "Nick Call" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 10:50 AM
 Subject: Re: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?


 | cf_insert_2_cents_worth
 |
 | I for one appreciate database and SQL discussions on this list.  I find
 the
 | information very useful.  Good database design and knowledge of the SQL
 | language is a key part of being a better CF programmer. However, if a
 | separate list is born, I will join it.
 |
 | /cf_insert_2_cents_worth
 |
 | cf_happy_holidays
 | Nick Call
 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |
 |
 | - Original Message -
 | From: "Greg Wolfinger" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 8:36 AM
 | Subject: Re: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?
 |
 |
 |   Well personally I preferred it when everything was on one list
 | 
 |  Me too Nick, but I don't think SQL and Database questions are too
 welcome
 | on
 |  this list.  That is why I recommended a CF-SQL list.
 | 
 |  -Greg
 |  - Original Message -
 |  From: "DeVoil, Nick" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |  To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |  Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 10:29 AM
 |  Subject: RE: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?
 | 
 | 
 |CF-SQL would be great
 |  
 |   Well personally I preferred it when everything was on one list,
 |   but if there *was* a CF-SQL list I'd certainly sign up for it.
 |  
 |   Nick
 |  
 |   MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE




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RE: The +.htr bug strikes again

2000-12-21 Thread Dave Watts

 yeah my life is complete now, i have the sourcecode for 
 hasbro, gimme a break, i think most of us on here have 
 better things to do that swipe code of a site, especially  
 seeing as all you have to do is ask on the list and people 
 usually will give you code if needed

It's not a good idea to post information about vulnerabilities of specific
sites on this list, or anywhere else for that matter. It's analogous to
posting information around your neighborhood about who leaves their front
door unlocked. If you want to notify the owner of the site with the
vulnerability, that's fine, but it's not anyone else's business.

This isn't just a matter of the intellectual property rights of reading
someone else's source code. Reading the source code of an application is a
pretty good way to find further vulnerabilities - database information,
filesystem info, whether and how input is filtered, and so on.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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RE: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?

2000-12-21 Thread allred

I'm with Nick. I don't see an advantage to separating SQL questions from
other CF topics. I almost always read the SQL-related questions, and I
learn from them, as I do from many other topics discussed on this list. One
of the strengths of this community, IMO, is the breadth of knowledge of its
members. I think divvying the posts up into little separate islands of
interest will only serve to weaken the CF community.

--John



   
 
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List?  
   
 
12/21/2000 
 
09:48 AM   
 
Please 
 
respond to 
 
cf-talk
 
   
 
   
 




 I don't think SQL and Database questions are too welcome on
 this list.

I must be kind of unobservant, I hadn't noticed that.
Is that right?

I mean, as you say, CF and databases are pretty inseparable.

For me, two of the things that make this a great list are:

1. The breadth of subjects covered

2. The willingness of so many people to answer supposedly
   OT questions. Unlike some lists where people mentioning
   something OT always get flamed.

Nick


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RE: CF 4.51sp2 Memory Usage Plateau

2000-12-21 Thread Dave Watts

 What versions of the net8 and mdac drivers are susceptable to 
 the memory leak?

There are various leaks in various versions. Generally, new versions fix
memory leaks in older versions, so your best bet is usually to simply use
the latest versions.

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FW: The +.htr bug strikes again

2000-12-21 Thread Angél Stewart

Hahahahah!!

Am I the only one that sees the irony in a company called Webexpose,
exposing its client's private code over the web, through a highly publicised
bug?

:-)

-Gel


-Original Message-
From: ibtoad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

I used them for a month and was also very unhappy with their service.
Be Afraid!!

Rich

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Webexpose.net clients and all the resold client are all affected by this
as well.  I moved my site off of them because they refused to fix the
bug.  Ive emailed them for about a month now about it and trying to
contact their clients about it but they refuse to answer back or even
fix.  I just checked and even after this long they still have the bug.
guess they don't care.

Misy
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RE: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?

2000-12-21 Thread PEREZ, RICHARD RINGO (SBCSI)

I will sign up too!

-Original Message-
From: Duane Boudreau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 9:30 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?




 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 11:56 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?
 
 
 Its set up and will be 'released' today with the Studio list. I've been a
 little tied up due to the new baby.

You'll have to get used to that say for the next 18 to 20 years ;)

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RE: Page Tracking hits :: User Movments on an Intranet

2000-12-21 Thread Warrick, Mark

Hi Paul,

I really don't think there is a tutorial.  You can use the code below as an example.  
This is the easiest way to track visitors.  You would include this into every 
template.  (by the way, this has nothing to do with server logs)

cfset ip = "#cgi.remote_addr#"
cfset login_time = "#TimeFormat(Now(), "HH:MM:SS")#"
cfset login_date = "#DateFormat(Now(), "MM/DD/")#"


(of course you'll need to create a database for this)

cfquery name="record_visit" datasource="#dsn#"
INSERT INTO access_log (
ip,
login_date,
login_time)
VALUES (
'#ip#',
'#login_date#',
'#login_time#')
/cfquery

---mark


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 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 4:51 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Page Tracking  hits :: User Movments on an Intranet
 
 
 is there a tutorial for this in the advanced wack book?
 guess i should just look my self, sorry.
 
 i cant use server logs.
 they are turned off
 thanks
 -paul
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Warrick, Mark [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Wednesday, December 20, 2000 1:25 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject:RE: Page Tracking  hits :: User Movments on an Intranet
  
  The anonymous way would be to assign a random ID to each new visitor and
  then record that ID with every page view (or fuseaction) into a database
  or text file.
  
  The membership-based way would be to have a user login  then track them
  the same way.
  
  --
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   -Original Message-
   From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 5:47 AM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Page Tracking  hits :: User Movments on an Intranet
   
   
   hello all!
   i know this has been asked befor, but i cant find the email.
   
   What software or utilities do you guys use to track user movments on
  your
   site?
   i need to see what parts of our intranet are really being utalized 
  what
   isnt.
   
   so i can do a rebuild.
   
   any helpp would be great!
   
   thank you
   
   -paul
   
   Web Developer, NBBJ
   Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 614 241-3534
   
   Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 614 449-1681
   
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   icq:  47658358
   
   
   
  
 

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Re: Adding items to Shopping cart

2000-12-21 Thread Dick Applebaum

Yes, with the proper design,,,

Probably involves some JavaScript too, to make it efficient on the 
client side and to improve the interface.

Dick

At 10:07 AM -0700 12/21/00, JayB wrote:
I apologize if this was sent twice...sent it yesterday and didn't see it
show up


Basic Question...

Most shopping carts I've seen/used require you to click to add a product or
multiple of one product, which takes you to some calculate page, then back
to add a different item,  the back to the calculate page etc. Many of our
customer will buy multiples of more than 20 different items in one shopping
visit. All this back and forth just doesn't work for our customers.

One of the things I really like about our current cgi shopping cart system
is that a customer can add multiple items to the cart from one page with a
single click of the add to basket button.

as in


Selection Page
qty item
[ 2 ]   widget a
[   ]widget b
[ 6 ]   widget c
[   ]widget d
[ 2 ]   widget e
[   ]widget f

[Add to cart] - One click adds all the different items to the cart.


Calculate page

You have the following in your cart

qty item
[ 2 ]   widget a
[ 6 ]   widget c
[ 2 ]   widget e


I haven't looked into it yet but I thought I'd ask first...can CF do this
kind of thing?




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RE: Dynamic filename with CFCONTENT

2000-12-21 Thread Dave Watts

 Trying to set up a page to accept a few options, build up a 
 path, and spit out a file via CFCONTENT to the user. But it 
 seems to choke on using a variable in "FILE" instead of a 
 flat-out path/filename. Any thoughts?

You should be able to do this without any problem - I've done it many times.
You might make sure that your variable's value is correct.

 Also, in a related note - anyone know the mime type for a 
 straight-up executable, as opposed to a zip file, MS Excel 
 file, etc.?

Typically, you'd use application/octet-stream.

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Re: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?

2000-12-21 Thread Neil H.

Do what I do; make a new email account called [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
you can separate your real email from the list stuff :)

Neil
aka Neil-list :)

- Original Message -
From: "Gregory Harris" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?


 Agreed, plus there is my favorite issue of mailing list glut, attempting
 manage how many mailing lists?  Plus if I take off on vacation and want to
 unsubscribe for a bit?  That could be as many as 6-7 emails, and I still
 might not be able to get off all the lists. So just leave at the current
 status with CF-Talk, CF-Community and the other specialist lists such as
 CF-Wap and CF-Server.

 Gregory Harris
 Web Developer
 Stirling Bridge Group LLC

 - Original Message -
 From: "Dick Applebaum" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 8:38 AM
 Subject: Re: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?


  Greg
 
  I would *not* like to see the CF list subdivide... where does it end:
 
 CF-SQL
 CF-Objects
 CF-Verity
 CF-Mail
 CF-WDDX
 CF-Javascript
 
  One of the major advantages of CF is it's integration of SQL database
  (and other components).
 
  I personally enjoy and benefit from the variety of topics on this
  list... it is easy to sort/delete/ignore items that are not of
  interest.
 
  MHO
 
  Dick
 
 
 
  At 10:09 AM -0500 12/21/00, Greg Wolfinger wrote:
  Hey Guys:
  
  I e-mail Michael Dinowitz about a week ago and havn't herd back
  yetbut I think it would be a great idea to start a new mailing
  list.  CF-SQL would be great because you could post all your
  questions about databasing and sql, because we all run into those
  problems when working with CF.  Hopefully I will get a good enough
  response from this e-mail so that Michael strongly consiers starting
  CF-SQL.  So what do you guys think?
  
  --Greg
  
 
 

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RE: LOCKING revisited...

2000-12-21 Thread Dave Watts

 The only time it will act "single threaded" is when two 
 requests attempt to read an Application scope variable at the 
 same time.

Actually, read locks don't cause access to be single-threaded. All a read
lock does is prevent a write to the scope while the read is going on.

 On a related note, if I have automatic read locking enabled 
 for Application scope and I assign a local Variable to an 
 Application variable, it will essentially make a copy to the 
 pointer. Is CF smart enough then to automatically lock 
 accesses to this local Variables, which is pointing into 
 Application space?

CF passes simple values by value, not by reference, so there's no pointer -
it's a completely separate variable. If you assign a session query or
structure to a local scope, CF passes it by reference, so there is a
pointer, and CF will not automatically lock access to that pointer. You'd
want to force CF to create a copy, rather than a pointer. You can do this
with the Duplicate function in CF 4.5.x.

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RE: LOCKING revisited...

2000-12-21 Thread Dave Watts

 Duplicate() is an undocumented feature only present in CF4.5 
 upwards.

It's not quite undocumented. It's described in the release notes, which are
very important reading. A lot of stuff is described better in the release
notes than in the general documentation.

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RE: OT...Print Auditing

2000-12-21 Thread Dave Watts

 Sorry for the OT post, but my CF app is a classified 
 application. We need to audit the printing of documents 
 from the browser in NT. I know NT will audit who printed 
 a job, but we need a way to audit each document, if
 possible. Any leads would be helpful if anyone knows of 
 software capable of doing this. We are also generating 
 RTF files so it is not only the Netscape browser but 
 Word files, etc.

This is tough to make happen. I worked on an application with a similar
problem, and the solution for that problem was a custom Netscape plugin.
There wasn't any off-the-shelf solution.

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RE: LOCKING revisited...

2000-12-21 Thread Dave Watts

 Ok, given that we all agree:
 
 ** Access to shared variables should *ALWAYS* be locked **
 
 Then why on Earth shouldn't I just turn on Automatic Read 
 Locking for Application (and Session et al if I use them) 
 scope and only worry about write locking in my code?
 
 Why doesn't everyone do that, with the rare exception of some 
 code that has unusual locking needs.
 
 I've heard the argument that automatic read locking is a 
 slight performance hit. It couldn't be more of a hit than 
 parsing cflock /cflock around every access and still 
 doing the read lock anyway!

That's certainly an alternative. However, I'd argue that you want to write
the code so that, all other things being equal, that code is safe. You
might, for example, not have control over server configuration, or you might
be writing a shrinkwrap application.

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Re: The +.htr bug strikes again

2000-12-21 Thread Greg Wolfinger

 If you want to notify the owner of the site with the
 vulnerability, that's fine, but it's not anyone else's business.

I have stumbled accross a couple of sites that have this problem.  One
actually codes the database ip, username and password in one of the cfm
files.  I am just wondering how to protect myself from being accused of
tampering with the sites if  I notify the companies that have these security
holes.

--Greg
- Original Message -
From: "Dave Watts" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 12:30 PM
Subject: RE: The +.htr bug strikes again


  yeah my life is complete now, i have the sourcecode for
  hasbro, gimme a break, i think most of us on here have
  better things to do that swipe code of a site, especially
  seeing as all you have to do is ask on the list and people
  usually will give you code if needed

 It's not a good idea to post information about vulnerabilities of specific
 sites on this list, or anywhere else for that matter. It's analogous to
 posting information around your neighborhood about who leaves their front
 door unlocked. If you want to notify the owner of the site with the
 vulnerability, that's fine, but it's not anyone else's business.

 This isn't just a matter of the intellectual property rights of reading
 someone else's source code. Reading the source code of an application is a
 pretty good way to find further vulnerabilities - database information,
 filesystem info, whether and how input is filtered, and so on.

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 voice: (202) 797-5496
 fax: (202) 797-5444


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Re: Adding items to Shopping cart

2000-12-21 Thread paul smith

At 10:07 AM 12/21/00 -0700, you wrote:

One of the things I really like about our current cgi shopping cart system
is that a customer can add multiple items to the cart from one page with a
single click of the add to basket button.

The WebMonkey demo cart does this:

http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/99/49/index4a.html

best,  paul



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RE: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List? - existing list

2000-12-21 Thread JustinMacCarthy

There is an existing SQL (mssql7) list below
High Volume 100 mails a day? but some excellent minds subscribed including
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RE: Shopping Cart

2000-12-21 Thread Simon Horwith

I used able commerce once in a former life and found it to be a pretty good
"out of the box" product.  Read over the documentation closely before use,
and definitely play around with it on a test server for a while, first.  I
recommend purchasing the open source version... it's much easier to imlement
and customize when you can read up on what's going on under the hood.  If
you need to set up a "shopping mall" style site, the product saves you some
time... for a single store site, there are probably cheaper and easier to
use solutions, as Able comes with a lot of bells and whistles that a single
store probably won't take advantage of.

Good Luck.

~Simon

 Simon Horwith
 Certified ColdFusion Instructor
 Certified ColdFusion Developer
 Fig Leaf Software
 1400 16th St NW, # 220
 Washington DC 20036
 202.797.6570 (direct line)
 www.figleaf.com
 


-Original Message-
From: Eric Homa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 12:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Shopping Cart


Looks like the boss wants to try Able Commerce.  Anyone have any good or bad
experiences with it?  Any undocumented features (bugs) that I should know
about?

Thanks,

Eric Homa
compudigital.com

-Original Message-
From: Warrick, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 2:34 PM
Subject: RE: Shopping Cart


AbleCommerce is a nice out-of-the-box solution.
(http://www.ablecommerce.com) - It requires no ColdFusion knowledge to
maintain.

I haven't tried this one, but it's cheaper than AbleCommerce:
http://www.cartease.com/

If you want to "roll your own" you might try this tutorial:
http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/99/49/index4a.html?tw=programming

I'm sure there's more.  These just came off the top of my head.


---mark

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 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Homa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 9:44 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Shopping Cart


 Can anyone recommend a shopping cart that is written in CF that
 can be integrated into our own code?  Any shopping cart
 experiences, good and bad, would be welcome information.

 Thanks,

 Eric Homa
 compudigital.com




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database update?

2000-12-21 Thread Peter Benoit

I have an ODBC connection to my access database.  Once a week I update that
connection with a new database.  It seems to take roughly 15 mins or so for
that update to take place.  Is there a reason for that, and can I shorten
the length?



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RE: Adding items to Shopping cart

2000-12-21 Thread Phoeun Pha

of course CF can do this kind of thing








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From: JayB [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 11:08 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Adding items to Shopping cart


I apologize if this was sent twice...sent it yesterday and didn't see it 
show up


Basic Question...

Most shopping carts I've seen/used require you to click to add a product or 
multiple of one product, which takes you to some calculate page, then back 
to add a different item,  the back to the calculate page etc. Many of our 
customer will buy multiples of more than 20 different items in one shopping 
visit. All this back and forth just doesn't work for our customers.

One of the things I really like about our current cgi shopping cart system 
is that a customer can add multiple items to the cart from one page with a 
single click of the add to basket button.

as in


Selection Page
qty item
[ 2 ]   widget a
[   ]widget b
[ 6 ]   widget c
[   ]widget d
[ 2 ]   widget e
[   ]widget f

[Add to cart] - One click adds all the different items to the cart.


Calculate page

You have the following in your cart

qty item
[ 2 ]   widget a
[ 6 ]   widget c
[ 2 ]   widget e


I haven't looked into it yet but I thought I'd ask first...can CF do this 
kind of thing?
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RE: Shopping Cart

2000-12-21 Thread Larry Juncker

I have used version 2.61, 2.91 and version 3.0.  Straight out of the box
works fine.  Gets a little trickier when you want to do any custom coding
unless you know Cold Fusion very well.

The product works super out of the box though.  VERY EASY admin section for
maintaining the inventory etc.

Larry Juncker
Senior Cold Fusion Developer
Heartland Communications Group, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Eric Homa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 11:14 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Shopping Cart


Looks like the boss wants to try Able Commerce.  Anyone have any good or bad
experiences with it?  Any undocumented features (bugs) that I should know
about?

Thanks,

Eric Homa
compudigital.com

-Original Message-
From: Warrick, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 2:34 PM
Subject: RE: Shopping Cart


AbleCommerce is a nice out-of-the-box solution.
(http://www.ablecommerce.com) - It requires no ColdFusion knowledge to
maintain.

I haven't tried this one, but it's cheaper than AbleCommerce:
http://www.cartease.com/

If you want to "roll your own" you might try this tutorial:
http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/99/49/index4a.html?tw=programming

I'm sure there's more.  These just came off the top of my head.


---mark

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 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Homa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 9:44 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Shopping Cart


 Can anyone recommend a shopping cart that is written in CF that
 can be integrated into our own code?  Any shopping cart
 experiences, good and bad, would be welcome information.

 Thanks,

 Eric Homa
 compudigital.com




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Re: Who wants a CF-SQL Mailing List?

2000-12-21 Thread Billy Cravens

I really don't like the idea, simply because such a list would have to
be a little too broad.  You can implement your application using a
variety of databases: Access, SQL Server, Oracle, etc.  Each vendor has
a slighly different version of SQL.  I find it far more useful to join a
well established list that covers a specific database: if I develop in
Oracle, I'll probably get more out of an Oracle list than I would from a
list where most posts will be about Access ;)

For a good SQL Server list, go to Swynk.com

-- 
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Greg Wolfinger wrote:
 
 Hey Guys:
 
 I e-mail Michael Dinowitz about a week ago and havn't herd back yetbut I think 
it would be a great idea to start a new mailing list.  CF-SQL would be great because 
you could post all your questions about databasing and sql, because we all run into 
those problems when working with CF.  Hopefully I will get a good enough response 
from this e-mail so that Michael strongly consiers starting CF-SQL.  So what do you 
guys think?
 
 --Greg
 

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cfgrid showing up as gray block in IE

2000-12-21 Thread Paul Sinclair

I've got a cfgrid that allows edits to items in a db. I know it requires a
Java enabled browser to view it. My IE v5.5 sees the grid fine. A user who
needs access to it also has IE v5.5 but cannot view it - it comes up with
the blank Java gray block where the grid should be.

I've looked at Internet Options | Security | Microsoft VM | Java Permissions
to make sure Java is enabled on the user's system. It is set at High Safety,
which is the same setting as my machine.

Is there some setting somewhere else that needs to be checked to get the
cfgrid function working in the second user's IE?

Here is a truncated version of the template that creates the
cfformcfgrid if this is any help determining what the problem is:

cfform action="mytemplate.cfm"
method="POST"
enablecab="Yes"
name="mytemplatename"
cfgrid name="items"
query="queryname"
insert="No"
delete="Yes"
sort="Yes"
selectmode="EDIT"
picturebar="No"
sortascendingbutton="Sort Ascending"
sortdescendingbutton="Sort Descending"
/cfgrid
/cfform


Thanks for help.

Paul Sinclair



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RE: The +.htr bug strikes again

2000-12-21 Thread misty . d . woodward

Good point!

Misty

-Original Message-
From: pra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 11:12 AM
To: cf-talk
Cc: pra
Subject: RE: The +.htr bug strikes again


 Webexpose.net clients and all the resold client are all affected by
this
 as well.  I moved my site off of them because they refused to fix the
 bug.  Ive emailed them for about a month now about it and trying to
 contact their clients about it but they refuse to answer back or even
 fix.  I just checked and even after this long they still have the bug.
 guess they don't care.

Why do you think they're called WebExpose? hehehe

Philip Arnold
Director
Certified ColdFusion Developer
ASP Multimedia Limited
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Re: The +.htr bug strikes again

2000-12-21 Thread Billy Cravens

Don't you think it would have been better to wait until after Hasbro
patched it to alert a list of hundreds of developers?  I often run
across cf sites with the htr bug (it's hardly uncommon).  I usually
email the webmaster personally, as opposed to the "Hey guys!  Look what
I found!"  

Just out of curiosity (nothing against you Kevin): what are the legal
implications for something like this?  Even if it's just a hole which a
person could find on their own, can pointing it out be a cause for
liability?

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Kevin Schmidt wrote:
 
 Check out Hasbro Interactive.  They run entirely CF and haven't patched the
 +.htr bug yet.  I alerted them to this fact.
 
 Kevin Schmidt, Web Technology Manager
 Allaire Certified Cold Fusion Developer
 pwb inc.
 integrated marketing communications
 350 S. Main St., Suite 350
 Ann Arbor, MI 48104
 734.995.5000 (tel)
 734.995.5002 (fax)
 www.pwb.com
 

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RE: The +.htr bug strikes again

2000-12-21 Thread Jennifer

Look at the security section of the Allaire site and if you can't find it 
there, search for information on the Microsoft site. I promise not to hack 
your site in the meantime.

At 10:59 AM 12/22/00 -0500, you wrote:
What is the patch? Where can we get it?




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Re: COM and CFOBJECT - beginner problem

2000-12-21 Thread Joel Firestone

Mike:

Thanks. They're actually weren't anything. So after running, I simply set
cfset ErrNumber = AuthCtl1.ErrNumber

and so on, and it worked. Thanks for the guidance. That's what I get for
trying to copy  paste from another code snippet. : )

Joel

: Looks to me like the .Fields is not a property of the OCX control  The
: reason that it would appear to work in the ASP code is that the ASP code
: does not try to call AuthCtl.Fields and so does not error.
:
: Try using something like OLEView to see all the properties and methods
: available in the OCX
:
: HTH
:
: Mike



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RE: TCPClient Second Edition (COM Object)

2000-12-21 Thread lsellers


  As a general note, CFX_TCPClient 1.x is now "dead". Went
  ahead and put up
  the brand new TCPClient Second Edition just now.

 Nice one Min!

 We've been using the old 1.1 for a while - so useful it hurts!

 You da man. :)

;-

Danke. According to the weblogs something like 20 to 50 copies have been
downloaded every week for the last year plus. So I know someone's finding it
useful.

Been meaning it overhaul her for a while. The 1.x was... a bit of a beast to
use. :)

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Locking CFHTTP

2000-12-21 Thread Jim Gurfein

1) Should CFHTTP calls be locked?
2) If so, how? As a readonly? Named? Scoped?


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