Re: [cia-drugs] Re: barry seal's brother?
Funny thing though, that the Mohammed Atta was Amanda Keller's boyfriend was confirmed by two newspapers in Florida and several eye- witnesses, including neighbors, landlords and postal employees. It's just mud being thrown. Peace, K On Jan 20, 2007, at 8:58 PM, Synthetic Sound wrote: > It seems that a recanting statement such as that cannot be ignored as > inconvienient, but must be placed in context. > > My guess is that Dan, as an investigative journalist who seems to be > sued at every left turn,, has much more substance to his reports than > just his claims or unsubstantiated reports. > > Slasher > > Vigilius Haufniensis wrote: > > >>> In the summer of 2006, Amanda Keller denied ever knowing Mohammed >>> Atta. She says it was another Mohammed. If this is the case, you can >>> see how it weakens the underpinning of Dan's thesis about Atta's >>> psychology. >>> >> >> VMANN: heh. >> she also said that dan was trying to "bribe" her and weird shit >> like that. >> it seems quite plain to me that she was probably intimidated by >> the FBI. >> vigilius haufniensis >> >> >> > > > > > Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ > > Please let us stay on topic and be civil. > > OM > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
Re: [cia-drugs] Re: barry seal's brother?
It seems that a recanting statement such as that cannot be ignored as inconvienient, but must be placed in context. My guess is that Dan, as an investigative journalist who seems to be sued at every left turn,, has much more substance to his reports than just his claims or unsubstantiated reports. Slasher Vigilius Haufniensis wrote: > > In the summer of 2006, Amanda Keller denied ever knowing Mohammed > > Atta. She says it was another Mohammed. If this is the case, you can > > see how it weakens the underpinning of Dan's thesis about Atta's > > psychology. > > VMANN: heh. > she also said that dan was trying to "bribe" her and weird shit like that. > it seems quite plain to me that she was probably intimidated by the FBI. > vigilius haufniensis > >
Re: [cia-drugs] Re: barry seal's brother?
> In the summer of 2006, Amanda Keller denied ever knowing Mohammed > Atta. She says it was another Mohammed. If this is the case, you can > see how it weakens the underpinning of Dan's thesis about Atta's > psychology. VMANN: heh. she also said that dan was trying to "bribe" her and weird shit like that. it seems quite plain to me that she was probably intimidated by the FBI. vigilius haufniensis
[cia-drugs] Re: barry seal's brother?
Amanda Keller was the "personal escort" whom Atta was boffing when he was in Florida prior to 911. Hopsicker tracked her down and interviewed her extensively. She brought up all kinds of interesting things about Atta that gave Daniel keen insight into Atta's mind. Daniel has used many of the insights he got from Amanda Keller to draw the conclusion that Atta could in fact do 911 and that he was not a patsy. In the summer of 2006, Amanda Keller denied ever knowing Mohammed Atta. She says it was another Mohammed. If this is the case, you can see how it weakens the underpinning of Dan's thesis about Atta's psychology. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, "Vigilius Haufniensis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Seal's brother (Barebottoms on the Free Republic Bulletin Board) is > > covering very old turf. I guess Shaab and his bride knew Porter > > Goss, Frank Sturgis, Barry Seal, Felix Rodriguez and Oswald's double > > as they are all present in that Rosetta Stone photo. > > > VMANN: yeah, that was my response on the packers usenet board. > > > > > > I am waiting to see what Barry Seal's brother has to say about > > Amanda Keller. She apparently is not capable of identifying which > > Mohammed she was screwing prior to 911 and she has repudiated all of > > her prior claims. Sooo! not to put too fine a point on it, the basis > > of Dan's argument that Atta was a psycho because he was able to tear > > apart cute kittens in revenge for being jilted by a bimbo just > > vanishes into thin air, as does the dancing in a green speedo, > > listening to the Beastie Boys, tearing up bibles and calling a blond > > German named Wolfgang his "brother". > > > VMANN: i dont follow. > vigilius haufniensis >
Re: [cia-drugs] Re: barry seal's brother?
> Seal's brother (Barebottoms on the Free Republic Bulletin Board) is > covering very old turf. I guess Shaab and his bride knew Porter > Goss, Frank Sturgis, Barry Seal, Felix Rodriguez and Oswald's double > as they are all present in that Rosetta Stone photo. VMANN: yeah, that was my response on the packers usenet board. > I am waiting to see what Barry Seal's brother has to say about > Amanda Keller. She apparently is not capable of identifying which > Mohammed she was screwing prior to 911 and she has repudiated all of > her prior claims. Sooo! not to put too fine a point on it, the basis > of Dan's argument that Atta was a psycho because he was able to tear > apart cute kittens in revenge for being jilted by a bimbo just > vanishes into thin air, as does the dancing in a green speedo, > listening to the Beastie Boys, tearing up bibles and calling a blond > German named Wolfgang his "brother". VMANN: i dont follow. vigilius haufniensis
[cia-drugs] Re: barry seal's brother?
Geez Kris, you're right. Why is it that everybody related to Seal wants to deny what he did? I would think there would be a lot of "badboy" cache' associated with the the legend of Barry Seal. It would be worth free drinks in the right bars and lots of fascinating conversation at the barbecue pit - not exactly something good ol boys want to pass up as they age in the south. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, RoadsEnd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wendell is Barry's brother. Bear Bottoms is not, BB is Barry Seal's > brother-in-law. > > And Wendell's comment is years old and was shown to be false when > Wendell first made the comment. It is just recycling shit to see if > maybe it will stick. > > By the way the Mossad/Israel, the Nazis and Bush regime are all the > same group. > > Peace, > K > > On Jan 20, 2007, at 4:08 AM, mark urban wrote: > > > Hey, > > > > Seal's brother (Barebottoms on the Free Republic Bulletin Board) is > > covering very old turf. I guess Shaab and his bride knew Porter > > Goss, Frank Sturgis, Barry Seal, Felix Rodriguez and Oswald's double > > as they are all present in that Rosetta Stone photo. > > > > Then again, maybe it is all part of a campaign designed to get you > > chasing your tail like Little Black Sambo's tiger. > > > > Allegedly, Seal flew guns to Castro in pre-revolution Cuba, flew the > > JFK assassins out of Texas, flew Cocaine into the USA during Iran > > Contra, and had GHWB's personal phone number in his wallet when he > > was gunned down by supposed drug cartel hitmen. > > > > I think it is funny (odd not humorous) as hell that Daniel does most > > of his interviews with Dave Emory - a man who would have you believe > > that the Nazis are behind todays illicit drug traffic and Islamic > > terrorism. > > > > For the sake of perspective, anyone who was twenty years old in 1945 > > would be in their eighties today - hardly an age at which > > effectiveness in the management of a worldwide criminal enterprise > > can be claimed. In addition, it is difficult for me to believe that > > these so called Nazis were able to recruit so many proselytes to the > > cause. Then again, the Mossad connection to drugs and false flag > > terror is ignored completely. You see, Dan and Dave know which side > > of the bread has butter on it and who owns the sticks of butter. > > > > I am waiting to see what Barry Seal's brother has to say about > > Amanda Keller. She apparently is not capable of identifying which > > Mohammed she was screwing prior to 911 and she has repudiated all of > > her prior claims. Sooo! not to put too fine a point on it, the basis > > of Dan's argument that Atta was a psycho because he was able to tear > > apart cute kittens in revenge for being jilted by a bimbo just > > vanishes into thin air, as does the dancing in a green speedo, > > listening to the Beastie Boys, tearing up bibles and calling a blond > > German named Wolfgang his "brother". > > > > As Matt Damon says in THE GOOD SHEPHERD > > > > "Wer war der tor, wer weiser, wer bettler oder kaiser, ob arm ob > > reich, im tode gleich!" > > > > > > --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, "Vigilius Haufniensis" > > wrote: > > > >> > >> wrote in message > >> > > news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > > > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >>> by Wendell Seal > >>> > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >>> Hopsicker has lied about my brother Barry Seal if any one wants > >>> > > to hear > > > >> > >> > >>> about it email me the "Holy Grail Picture" that he used to > >>> > > say it > > > >> > >> > >>> was CIA spooks meeting in Mexico City was a snapshot of a > >>> > > wedding party > > > >> > >> > >>> of Ronny Shaab's sisters batchlor party. > >>> > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ > > > > Please let us stay on topic and be civil. > > > > OM > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >
[cia-drugs] Re: barry seal's brother?
Maybe it is just me, but I do not think Nazis are the problem
nowadays. However, elite deviants of all stripes can take heart
every time Emory talks about islamofascism and its relationship to
what came out of Germany in WW2.
--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, "norgesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Your generalised over-simplified reduction of Dave Emory's work
could be dismissed easily by just listening to a few of his
broadcasts,
> or by reading yesterday's post by Jeff Wells that refutes your
belief that the Nazi's began and ended with Hitler in the 1940's.
>
> Let's remember the worlds that the word Nazi can hold. The street-
brawling thugs are always dispensable; even Hitler, who came up from
the streets, dispensed with them. And to the SS conniving behind his
back, Hitler could be done away with, too. It's such quiet and
refined elite, whose members belong to the community of
international money, that can smash more than our windows. Those are
the Nazis to whom Allen Dulles delivered the keys to America. They
were not the alien other, like European Jewry or the Communists.
They were blutsbrüder.
>
> http://rigint.blogspot.com/2007/01/patterns-of-force.html
>
> Friday, January 19, 2007
> Patterns of Force
>
>
> There's a black Mercedes rollin' through the combat zone - Bob
Dylan
>
>
>
> I've been dipping into Charles Higham's out-of-print American
Swastika ("The Shocking Story of Nazi Collaborators in Our Midst
from 1933 to the Present Day"), and the chapter on the negotiations
mid-war between future CIA Director Allen Dulles and the SS just
jumped up and said Yup, you got me.
>
> Higham writes:
>
> SS officers came from the right-wing elite, those with money and
commercial interests that lay outside the German border. Thus, the
fact that it was the SD [the SS intelligence service of the SS]which
specialized in every kind of subversion, intrigue, and ruination
appealed directly to Allied connections more than any other service.
Its leaders belonged to the community of world money; their
allegiance was not to the upstart, working-class Hitler, but to the
memory of SS leader Heinrich Himmler's idol, King Henry I of Saxony,
and to the Stein bank of Cologne, which financed Himmler's inner
circle under the aegis of the international banker Kurt von
Schroeder.
>
> In 1942 Dulles became the OSS station chief in Switzerland, while
continuing to serve as director and legal advisor to the New York
branch of the same Schroeder bank. Early the following year, acting
without the authority of Franklin Roosevelt (though he made false
assertion to the contrary), Dulles opened a channel of appeasement
with SS nobility, mostly Prussian elite, acting without the
knowledge of Adolph Hitler. Dulles met three times with Prince Max
von Hohenlohe, whom he knew from Vienna in 1916 and New York in
the '20s. Higham examined the original SS records of the meetings
and had no doubt to their authenticity, despite post-war attempts to
discredit them because their translation had first appeared in the
communist journal New Times.
>
> Dulles opened the first meeting cordially, saying he was "sick and
tired of listening to stories of ruined politicians, emigrants, and
prejudiced Jews." He said that Germany needed to remain in existence
to "maintain order," that the question of Czech sovereignty was
inconsequential, and that most important was the establishment of a
bulwark in the East against Bolshevism.
>
> Dulles pressed ahead. He said that it would be unbearable for any
decent European to think that the Jews might return someday, and
that there must be no toleration of a return of the Jewish power
positions. He reiterated his desire for a greater European political
federation - and foresaw the federal Germany that in fact took
place. He said that Hitler would not be accepted as the leader of a
restored Germany. He made the curious assertion that the Americans
were only continuing the war to get ride of the Jews and that there
were people in America who were intending to send the Jews to
Africa. This was Hitler's dream of course: that the Jews would go to
Madagascar and stay there. Dulles seems to have confused the
clubland view of blacks and Jews.
>
> Dulles now proceeded to supply Hohenlohe with dollops of secret
intelligence, announcing that the US Army would not land in Spain
but, after conquering Tunisia, would advance from Africa toward the
Ploesti oil fields to cut off the German oil supplies. He said that
it was likely the Allies would land in Sicily to cut off Rommel and
control Italy from there, and thus secure the advance in the
Balkans.
>
> Having given virtually the entire battle plan for Europe, top
secret at the time, to one of Germany's agents, Allen Dulles
proceeded to the almost unneccessary rider that he had very good
relations with the Vatican. He said American Catholics had a
decisive voice in such matters.
>
> The negotiation
[cia-drugs] UPDATE - Great-grandma seeks Justice from System she Knows is Broken
UPDATE - Great-grandma seeks Justice from System she Knows is Broken. In December, without fanfare, I was handcuffed and ruthlessly deposited on the well-worn trail of justice. The trip thus far has only been verification of what I already know: The Justice system isn't doing what it was designed to do and it's spending a lot of money not doing it. I have never before been the target of law enforcement and in fact, should not be standing in line for justice now. As you know, while healing from heart surgery, I was arrested and charged with "THC Possession" by the state of Wisconsin, despite a state statute* that should have protected me from such foolishness. Between WI Statute 961.41** and the ***10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, a trial should be the last thing on my mind. When I lived in Berkeley in 2002, Dr. Mike Alcalay [CA] confirmed in writing that marijuana raises my quality of life, and in Wisconsin that's supposed to be all I need to remain a law-abiding citizen. But the law turned out to be a moot point. On January 11th, in Eau Claire Branch #3 courtroom, I met Judge Gabler, who will be determining my future; and my attorney, Bryon Walker, who will see it's done fairly. I was impressed with them both. I wasn't as taken in by the system itself. I've sat in courtrooms with other people many times, so the choreographed-rote-perfunctory-ritual that has become the legal process doesn't so much surprise me anymore as sadden me. It seemed a tremendously expensive waste for that busy courtroom and all it's actors to have to stop and focus on me, however briefly. It would have made more sense to me if we just showed the judge my doctor's order and a copy of the law so he, as well as we, could get on with more important matters. Seems that's not the way things work. I was told intake court wasn't a place where I could simply show my documentation and the judge would make it go away. Instead, apparently all we were there to do was enter my plea of "Not Guilty", and even then the prosecutor kept assuring us that we didn't have to enter a plea that day. In fact, up to that point, I was the only one who did enter a plea. A wasted day in court? What's that all about? My attorney, Mr. Bryon Walker, took lots of time after court to explain all the possible outcomes to me. The "Not Guilty" plea started some kind of legal clock. Attorney Walker will speak to the DA's office to see if they would rather drop the case against me or take it to a jury trial. If the prosecutor decides to pursue the matter, the next time I have to appear in court is February 28th. I'll keep you updated. Mr. Walker is prepared to see this through as long as the case 'stays simple'. If it gets complicated, for costs, approximate $8 to 10,000, it's possible my case could be used to make law in the Wisconsin supreme court so that, in the future, this will not happen to other patients who use cannabis to raise their quality of life. We'll see what comes next. I am forever grateful for Mr. Walker's help. His services are being provided, as far as I understand, by National and Wisconsin NORML. Keith Stroup and Ben Masel, thank you so much for providing me access to Attorney Walker. ONE LAST NOTE: We hope not, but this may have to be my farewell note for awhile. The daughter who is hosting me here may have to let her internet service go temporarily, so if I seem to disappear for a bit, that is why. I will be back, but it may not be until I return to Georgia. When that will be, I do not know. I came to Wisconsin for a few weeks, but now I've been here for eight MONTHS. The doctors are still adjusting heart medicine [yuk] and with the legal system on my case, everything is uncertain. Those of you who do pray, please ask for blessings for my daughter's family. They have been very patient, although my arrest has made my daughter feel totally unsafe in her own home: Knowing it happens isn't anything like having it happen. One thing she'll never do again is let a cop inside the door without a warrant even if he is 'just here about the dog.' :>) Please consider, when the law says you should be afraid enough of non-violent cannabis users to lock them up, that is an inexcusable and hasty generalization - Despite the fact that I admittedly appreciate marijuana, I would never intentionally harm you nor your stuff - because with or without pot, I am NOT a criminal. I'm just another victim of the drug war. With so much respect for all of you, Kay Lee 2536 Harrison Street, Eau Claire, Wisconsin 54703 PS. Thank you all my readers, every one of you, for your interest in 'just another drug war story' (which has been added to 'The Wall': Thank you November Coalition http://www.november.org). I have especially appreciated the interesting responses from you, all of which I'll be sharing on my Cannabis Research site at http://www.angelfi
[cia-drugs] "Conspiracy' videos
For those who are interested, I put up my collection of drug war, etc. VHS tapes at: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120075465448 Thank you, George
[cia-drugs] OT 2 some: STATE Governors lose in power struggle over National Guard
Time to reform the local Militias and advise against joining the crown's army! TOP STORY Friday, January 12, 2007 Governors lose in power struggle over National Guard By Kavan Peterson, Staff Writer A little-noticed change in federal law packs an important change in who is in charge the next time a state is devastated by a disaster such as Hurricane Katrina. To the dismay of the nation’s governors, the White House now will be empowered to go over a governor’s head and call up National Guard troops to aid a state in time of natural disasters or other public emergencies. Up to now, governors were the sole commanders in chief of citizen soldiers in local Guard units during emergencies within the state. A conflict over who should control Guard units arose in the days after Hurricane Katrina in 2005. President Bush sought to federalize control of Guardsmen in Louisiana in the chaos after the hurricane, but Gov. Kathleen Blanco (D) refused to relinquish command. Over objections from all 50 governors, Congress in October tweaked the 200-year-old Insurrection Act to empower the hand of the president in future stateside emergencies. In a letter to Congress, the governors called the change "a dramatic expansion of federal authority during natural disasters that could cause confusion in the command-and-control of the National Guard and interfere with states' ability to respond to natural disasters within their borders." The change adds to tensions between governors and the White House after more than four years of heavy federal deployment of state-based Guard forces to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan. Since the 2001 terrorist attacks, four out of five guardsmen have been sent overseas in the largest deployment of the National Guard since World War II. Shortage of the Guard’s military equipment – such as helicopters to drop hay to snow-stranded cattle in Colorado – also is a nagging issue as much of units’ heavy equipment is left overseas and unavailable in case of a natural disaster at home. A bipartisan majority of both chambers of Congress adopted the change as part of the 439-page, $538 billion 2007 Defense Authorization Bill signed into law last October. The nation's governors through the National Governors Association (NGA) successfully lobbied to defeat a broader proposal to give the president power to federalize Guard troops without invoking the Insurrection Act. But the passage that became law also "disappointed" governors because it expands federal power and could cause confusion between state and federal authorities trying to respond to an emergency situation, said David Quam, an NGA homeland security advisor. "Governors need to be focused on assisting their citizens during an emergency instead of looking over their shoulders to see if the federal government is going to step in," Quam said. Under the U.S. Constitution, each state's National Guard unit is controlled by the governor in time of peace but can be called up for federal duty by the president. The National Guard employs 444,000 part-time soldiers between its two branches: the Army and Air National Guards. The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 forbids U.S. troops from being deployed on American soil for law enforcement. The one exception is provided by the Insurrection Act of 1807, which lets the president use the military only for the purpose of putting down rebellions or enforcing constitutional rights if state authorities fail to do so. Under that law, the president can declare an insurrection and call in the armed forces. The act has been invoked only a handful of times in the past 50 years, including in 1957 to desegregate schools and in 1992 during riots in south central Los Angeles after the acquittal of police accused of beating Rodney King. Congress changed the Insurrection Act to list "natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident" as conditions under which the president can deploy U.S. armed forces and federalize state Guard troops if he determines that "authorities of the state or possession are incapable of maintaining public order." Backers of the new rules, including U.S. Sens. John W. Warner (R-Va.) and Edward Kennedy (D
[cia-drugs] Fwd: Tony Blair's Media Mouthpiece Arrested
Begin forwarded message: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: January 20, 2007 2:45:01 AM PST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Tony Blair's Media Mouthpiece Arrested So far, three people have already been arrested in the inquiry, among them the treasury minister, Lord Levy -- who claims some documents relevant to the case were destroyed in a mysterious fire. Police believe other evidence has been shredded. Prime Minister Blair himself -- the final source of potential evidence -- is expected to be questioned within the next two months. The Times (UK) January 20, 2007 Blair aide arrested as part of 'loans for peerages' inquiry Rajeev Syal and Philip Webster http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2556515,00.html Detectives suspect perversion of justice Friends criticise police operation A member of Tony Blair’s inner circle was arrested yesterday on suspicion of perverting the course of justice by police who are investigating the loans-for-peerages allegations. Ruth Turner, the Downing Street director of government communications, was woken at 6.30am and questioned for four hours at a London police station. The Times understands that her arrest relates to missing correspondence that discusses Labour lenders and nominations for peerages. She was questioned about contact with Sir Christopher Evans, the biotech tycoon, who has also been arrested as part of the inquiry, sources said. The disclosed accusation of perverting the course of justice shows that the police have turned their attention towards an attempt to cover up the sale of honours, as revealed in this newspaper last month. Ms Turner, known as Mr Blair’s gatekeeper, reports directly to Jonathan Powell, the chief of staff, and plays a role in controlling access to the Prime Minister. She was interviewed previously under caution in September last year in relation to e- mails uncovered by detectives during a search of Downing Street files. The documents raised questions about which Labour lenders may be placed on a list to be submitted to the House of Lords Appointments Commission, sources told The Times. Ms Turner was also asked about “e-mail traffic” that appeared to have been sent both to and from her work station. In a statement released by No 10, Ms Turner said: “I have already given the police two lengthy interviews and made it clear to them that I was happy to speak to them again at any stage. I have been completely open with the police throughout and will continue to co- operate with them fully . . . I absolutely refute any allegations of wrongdoing of any nature whatsoever.” Mr Blair said yesterday that he continued to have complete confidence in Ms Turner. In a statement, he said: “Ruth is a person of the highest integrity, for whom I have great regard and I continue to have complete confidence in her.” Scotland Yard said that Ms Turner’s arrest at her London home was “in connection with alleged offences under the Honours (Prevention of Abuses) Act 1925 and also on suspicion of perverting the course of justice”. A spokesman said that this new development would require officers from the Metropolitan Police Specialist Crime Directorate to carry out additional investigations. Labour had been hoping that the investigation and any resulting action would be over before Mr Blair leaves office, giving Gordon Brown, who is almost certain to be his successor, a chance to make a fresh start. Charges as serious as perverting the course of justice could mean that the party will have a cloud over it for much longer. Ms Turner becomes the fourth person to be arrested in the inquiry, after Mr Blair’s personal fundraiser, Lord Levy, Sir Christopher and the former education adviser Des Smith. The police inquiry began in March after the House of Lords rejected nominations for four millionaire backers — Chai Patel, Sir Gulam Noon, Sir David Garrard and Barry Townsley — whose names were put forward for peerages by the Prime Minister. Mr Blair was questioned at No 10 shortly before Christmas but was not arrested or cautioned. The possibility of charges on perverting the course of justice was discussed by the CPS last year after meetings with police. Such charges can be brought if a person tries to interfere with an investigation that might bring criminal proceedings. The charge, which carries a maximum life sentence, was used against Jonathan Aitken and Lord Archer of Weston-super-Mare. Friends of Ms Turner were furious at the manner of her arrest. One said: “Four policemen turned up. They questioned her for hours and then she was allowed to go. That has undoubtedly damaged her reputation and nobody has charged her with anything. What the hell is going on here?” Lord Goldsmith, the Attorney-General, dismissed suggestions that he would stand asid
[cia-drugs] Fwd: Police Think They've Identified Litvinenko's Killer / Berezovsky Cheerful
Begin forwarded message: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: January 20, 2007 1:44:59 AM PST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Police Think They've Identified Litvinenko's Killer / Berezovsky Cheerful The Times (UK)January 20, 2007 Police match image of Litvinenko's real assassin with his death-bed description Daniel McGrory and Tony Halpin http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2556377,00.html The polonium trail Police have identified the man they believe poisoned Alexander Litvinenko. The suspected killer was captured on cameras at Heathrow as he flew into Britain to carry out the murder. Friends of the ex-spy say that the man was a hired killer, sent by the Kremlin, who vanished hours after administering a deadly dose of radioactive polonium-210 to Litvinenko. He arrived in London on a forged EU passport and reportedly slipped the poison into a cup of tea he made for Litvinenko in a London hotel room. Litvinenko was reportedly able to give vital details of his suspected killer in a bedside interview with detectives just days before he died on November 23 at University College Hospital. Police have decided not to publish pictures of this man, who was seen on CCTV cameras as he flew in from Hamburg on November 1, the day that Litvinenko fell ill. He is described as being tall and powerfully built, in his early thirties with short, cropped black hair and distinctive Central Asian features. He reportedly travelled on the same flight as Dimitri Kovtun, a Russian businessman who is being investigated for trafficking the radioactive material used in the poison plot. Oleg Gordievsky, a former KGB agent and friend of Litvinenko, who has worked closely with police on the investigation, said: “This man is believed to have used a Lithuanian or Slovak passport. He did not check into any hotel in London using the name or that passport, and he left the country using another EU passport.” German police are investigating how polonium-210 was found in various locations Mr Kovtun visited in Hamburg. According to police sources, until now it has not been revealed that Litvinenko visited a fourth-floor room at the Millennium Hotel to discuss a business deal. He had gone to the room with Mr Kovtun and another former Russian agent, Andrei Lugovoy. The three men were joined in the room later by the mystery figure who was introduced as “Vladislav”. Mr Gordievsky told The Times yesterday how “Vladislav was described as someone who could help Mr Litvinenko win a lucrative contract with a Moscow-based private security company. “Sasha (his name for Litvinenko) remembered the man making him a cup of tea. “His belief is that the water from the kettle was only lukewarm and that the polonium-210 was added, which heated the drink through radiation so he had a hot cup of tea. The poison would have showed up in a cold drink,” he added. The hotel room where Litvinenko thought he was poisoned remains sealed off. This room reportedly showed the heaviest concentration of polonium-210 found at a dozen locations across London. Both Mr Lugovoy and Mr Kovtun were questioned by Scotland Yard detectives in Moscow last month. They strenuously deny playing any role in the posion plot. Scotland Yard have asked to return to Russia so that they can continue their hunt for the suspected murderer, but have been told that they will not be allowed back until after a team of Russian investigators have completed their own inquiry in London. The fear is that the Russian investigators will use their trip to pursue enemies of President Vladimir Putin living in London. The Kremlin has offered an amnesty for some on its wanted list in return for information against Mr Putin’s main foes given asylum in Britain. They are thought to include former executives of the fallen oil giant Yukos, whose assets have been seized by the Kremlin. Alexei Golubovich, former director of corporate finance and strategic planning at Yukos, came back from Italy this month after striking a deal with Russian prosecutors, who had issued an international warrant for his arrest. Mr Golubovich was held in Italy last year but fought off extradition attempts. He is now said to be co-operating actively with Russian prosecutors. The Kremlin agreed apparently to drop fraud charges if he returned to Moscow and provided testimony against Mikhail Khodorkovsky, the founder of Yukos, and his deputy, Leonid Nevzlin. Khodorkovsky was jailed for fraud and tax evasion in 2003 in what was widely seen as a government vendetta against the oligarch, who had been highly critical of President Putin. Mr Nevzlin fled to Israel. Yuri Chaika, the Prosecutor-General in Moscow, has accused Mr Nevzlin of involvement in Litvinenko’s death, a charge dismissed by the former Yukos
Re: [cia-drugs] Re: barry seal's brother?
Wendell is Barry's brother. Bear Bottoms is not, BB is Barry Seal's brother-in-law. And Wendell's comment is years old and was shown to be false when Wendell first made the comment. It is just recycling shit to see if maybe it will stick. By the way the Mossad/Israel, the Nazis and Bush regime are all the same group. Peace, K On Jan 20, 2007, at 4:08 AM, mark urban wrote: > Hey, > > Seal's brother (Barebottoms on the Free Republic Bulletin Board) is > covering very old turf. I guess Shaab and his bride knew Porter > Goss, Frank Sturgis, Barry Seal, Felix Rodriguez and Oswald's double > as they are all present in that Rosetta Stone photo. > > Then again, maybe it is all part of a campaign designed to get you > chasing your tail like Little Black Sambo's tiger. > > Allegedly, Seal flew guns to Castro in pre-revolution Cuba, flew the > JFK assassins out of Texas, flew Cocaine into the USA during Iran > Contra, and had GHWB's personal phone number in his wallet when he > was gunned down by supposed drug cartel hitmen. > > I think it is funny (odd not humorous) as hell that Daniel does most > of his interviews with Dave Emory - a man who would have you believe > that the Nazis are behind todays illicit drug traffic and Islamic > terrorism. > > For the sake of perspective, anyone who was twenty years old in 1945 > would be in their eighties today - hardly an age at which > effectiveness in the management of a worldwide criminal enterprise > can be claimed. In addition, it is difficult for me to believe that > these so called Nazis were able to recruit so many proselytes to the > cause. Then again, the Mossad connection to drugs and false flag > terror is ignored completely. You see, Dan and Dave know which side > of the bread has butter on it and who owns the sticks of butter. > > I am waiting to see what Barry Seal's brother has to say about > Amanda Keller. She apparently is not capable of identifying which > Mohammed she was screwing prior to 911 and she has repudiated all of > her prior claims. Sooo! not to put too fine a point on it, the basis > of Dan's argument that Atta was a psycho because he was able to tear > apart cute kittens in revenge for being jilted by a bimbo just > vanishes into thin air, as does the dancing in a green speedo, > listening to the Beastie Boys, tearing up bibles and calling a blond > German named Wolfgang his "brother". > > As Matt Damon says in THE GOOD SHEPHERD > > "Wer war der tor, wer weiser, wer bettler oder kaiser, ob arm ob > reich, im tode gleich!" > > > --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, "Vigilius Haufniensis" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >> > news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> by Wendell Seal >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> Hopsicker has lied about my brother Barry Seal if any one wants >>> > to hear > >> >> >>> about it email me the "Holy Grail Picture" that he used to >>> > say it > >> >> >>> was CIA spooks meeting in Mexico City was a snapshot of a >>> > wedding party > >> >> >>> of Ronny Shaab's sisters batchlor party. >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > > Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ > > Please let us stay on topic and be civil. > > OM > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
[cia-drugs] Fairfax County Resolves
http://www.gunstonhall.org/documents/resolves.html
Fairfax County Resolves
(July 18, 1774)
At a general Meeting of the Freeholders and Inhabitants of the County
of Fairfax on Monday the 18th day of July 1774, at the Court House,
George Washington Esquire Chairman, and Robert Harrison Gent. Clerk
of the said Meeting--
1. Resolved that this Colony and Dominion of Virginia can not be
considered as a conquered Country; and if it was, that the present
Inhabitants are the Descendants not of the Conquered, but of the
Conquerors.
That the same was not setled at the national Expence of England, but
at the private Expence of the Adventurers, our Ancestors, by solemn
Compact with, and under the Auspices and Protection of the British
Crown; upon which we are in every Respect as dependant, as the People
of Great Britain, and in the same Manner subject to all his Majesty's
just, legal, and constitutional Prerogatives. That our Ancestors,
when they left their native Land, and setled in America, brought with
them (even if the same had not been confirmed by Charters) the Civil-
Constitution and Form of Government of the Country they came from;
and were by the Laws of Nature and Nations, entitled to all it's
Privileges, Immunities and Advantages; which have descended to us
their Posterity, and ought of Right to be as fully enjoyed, as if we
had still continued within the Realm of England.
2. Resolved that the most important and valuable Part of the British
Constitution, upon which it's very Existence depends, is the
fundamental Principle of the People's being governed by no Laws, to
which they have not given their Consent, by Representatives freely
chosen by themselves; who are affected by the Laws they enact equally
with their Constituents; to whom they are accountable, and whose
Burthens they share; in which consists the Safety and Happiness of
the Community: for if this Part of the Constitution was taken away,
or materially altered, the Government must degenerate either into an
absolute and despotic Monarchy, or a tyrannical Aristocracy, and the
Freedom of the People be annihilated.
3. Resolved therefore, as the Inhabitants of the american Colonies
are not, and from their situation can not be represented in the
British Parliament, that the legislative Power here can of Right be
exercised only by {our} own Provincial Assemblys or Parliaments,
subject to the Assent or Negative of the British Crown, to be
declared within some proper limited Time. But as it was thought just
and reasonable that the People of Great Britain shou'd reap
Advantages from these Colonies adequate to the Protection they
afforded them, the British Parliament have claimed and exercised the
Power of regulating our Trade and Commerce, so as to restrain our
importing from foreign Countrys, such Articles as they cou'd furnish
us with, of their own Growth or Manufacture, or exporting to foreign
Countrys such Articles and Portions of our Produce, as Great Britain
stood in Need of, for her won Consumption or Manufactures. Such a
Power directed with Wisdom and Moderation, seems necessary for the
general Good of that great Body-politic of which we are a Part;
altho' in some Degree repugnant to the Principles of the
Constitution. Under this Idea our Ancestors submitted to it: the
Experience of more than a Century, during the government of the
reciprocal Benefits flowing from it produced mutual uninterrupted
Harmony and Good- Will, between the Inhabitants of Great Britain and
her Colonies; who during that long Period, always considered
themselves as one and same People: and tho' such a Power is capable
of Abuse, and in some Instances hath been stretched beyond the
original Design and Institution. Yet to avoid Strife and Contention
with our fellow-Subjects, and strongly impressed with the Experience
of mutual Benefits, we always Chearfully acquiesced in it, while the
entire Regulation of our internal Policy, and giving and granting our
own Money were preserved to our own provincial Legislatures.
4. Resolved that it is the Duty of these Colonies, on all
Emergencies, to contribute, in Proportion to their Abilities,
Situation and Circumstances, to the necessary Charge of supporting
and defending the British Empire, of which they are Part; that while
we are treated upon an equal Footing with our fellow Subjects, the
Motives of Self-Interest and Preservation will be a sufficient
Obligation; as was evident thro' the Course of the last War; and that
no Argument can be fairly applyed to the British Parliament's taxing
us, upon a Presumption that we shou'd refuse a just and reasonable
Contribution, but will equally operate in Justification of the
Executive-Power taxing the People of England, upon a Supposition of
their Representatives refusing to grant the necessary Supplies.
5. Resolved that the Claim lately assumed and exercised
[cia-drugs] The Ballad of Bushie and Flashy: MAUREEN DOWD +
DOWD: George Bush may have lost his swagger, but Harry Flashman hasnt. THE COMPLETE ARTICLE AND MORE OP-ED COLUMNIST The Ballad of Bushie and Flashy By MAUREEN DOWD Published: January 20, 2007 WASHINGTON Maybe the president presiding over a quicksand empire got a vicarious thrill out of the fictional Victorian brigadier general who roamed from Chillianwalla to Isandlwana to Abyssinia at the height of the British Empire, always making conquests in love and war despite his cowardly, caddish behavior. In our continuing odyssey of discovery through the presidents reading list, we learned that he perused two of George MacDonald Frasers Flashman books, Flashman at the Charge and Flash for Freedom. There are those who are skeptical of the presidents souped-up reading list, a result of a book-reading contest with Karl Rove. I dont think he understands the world, Jay Rockefeller, the new chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, told The Timess Mark Mazzetti. I dont think hes particularly curious about the world. I dont think he reads like he says he does. Every time hes read something he tells you about it. I just wish W. had read more about the perils of empire before he naïvely dived into one. --MORE-- mparent-2.blogspot.com/2007/01/ballad-of-bushie-and-flashy.html Labels: Afghanistan, Bush, Empire, history, Iraq, Maureen Dowd, The New York Times, UK Leading Senator Assails President Over Iran Stance mparent-2.blogspot.com/2007/01/leading-senator-assails-president-over.html Anti-war protests move from streets to the Internet mparent-2.blogspot.com/2007/01/anti-war-protests-move-from-streets-to.html U.S. plans envision broad attack on Iran: analyst mparent-2.blogspot.com/2007/01/us-plans-envision-broad-attack-on-iran.html And More http://mparent.blogspot.com/ New website http://mparent.blogspot.com/ Alternate website with unique articles CRIMES AND CORRUPTIONS OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER NEWS MARC PARENT mparent mparent CCNWON - All new Yahoo! Mail - - Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane.
[cia-drugs] Re: barry seal's brother?
Hey, Seal's brother (Barebottoms on the Free Republic Bulletin Board) is covering very old turf. I guess Shaab and his bride knew Porter Goss, Frank Sturgis, Barry Seal, Felix Rodriguez and Oswald's double as they are all present in that Rosetta Stone photo. Then again, maybe it is all part of a campaign designed to get you chasing your tail like Little Black Sambo's tiger. Allegedly, Seal flew guns to Castro in pre-revolution Cuba, flew the JFK assassins out of Texas, flew Cocaine into the USA during Iran Contra, and had GHWB's personal phone number in his wallet when he was gunned down by supposed drug cartel hitmen. I think it is funny (odd not humorous) as hell that Daniel does most of his interviews with Dave Emory - a man who would have you believe that the Nazis are behind todays illicit drug traffic and Islamic terrorism. For the sake of perspective, anyone who was twenty years old in 1945 would be in their eighties today - hardly an age at which effectiveness in the management of a worldwide criminal enterprise can be claimed. In addition, it is difficult for me to believe that these so called Nazis were able to recruit so many proselytes to the cause. Then again, the Mossad connection to drugs and false flag terror is ignored completely. You see, Dan and Dave know which side of the bread has butter on it and who owns the sticks of butter. I am waiting to see what Barry Seal's brother has to say about Amanda Keller. She apparently is not capable of identifying which Mohammed she was screwing prior to 911 and she has repudiated all of her prior claims. Sooo! not to put too fine a point on it, the basis of Dan's argument that Atta was a psycho because he was able to tear apart cute kittens in revenge for being jilted by a bimbo just vanishes into thin air, as does the dancing in a green speedo, listening to the Beastie Boys, tearing up bibles and calling a blond German named Wolfgang his "brother". As Matt Damon says in THE GOOD SHEPHERD "Wer war der tor, wer weiser, wer bettler oder kaiser, ob arm ob reich, im tode gleich!" --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, "Vigilius Haufniensis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > > > > > > by Wendell Seal > > > > > > Hopsicker has lied about my brother Barry Seal if any one wants to hear > > > about it email me the "Holy Grail Picture" that he used to say it > > > was CIA spooks meeting in Mexico City was a snapshot of a wedding party > > > of Ronny Shaab's sisters batchlor party. > > > >
