Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-10 Thread Raffaella Traniello

Ciao!

On 11/07/2012 05:27 PM, Nicola Ferralis wrote:

Raffaella, would you please add a line in the webpage stating how to
install cinelerra, once the the PPA has been enabled?


Done!

Ciao!
Raffaella


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RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-09 Thread Murray Strome
I removed Cinelerra and installed Cinelerra-CV and this time it works. Thanks 
for all the discussion on this topic. It CV could not install because of 
dependency problems in Ubuntu 12.10 when I first tried it. However, it did work 
this week.
Murray

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From: raffaella.tranie...@g-raffa.eu raffaella.tranie...@g-raffa.eu
Subject: RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Received: Thursday, November 8, 2012, 2:33 AM

Ciao!

 I finally migrated cinelerra's builds to use the new name
 cinelerra-cv.

Thank you so much! :-)

 Raffaella, would you please add a line in the webpage stating how to
 install cinelerra, once the the PPA has been enabled?

Sure. Sorry for the delay. Somehow I messed up my git push ability to update 
the Cin site. I have to fix that first.

Ciao
Raffaella



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RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-08 Thread raffaella . traniello

Ciao!


I finally migrated cinelerra's builds to use the new name
cinelerra-cv.


Thank you so much! :-)


Raffaella, would you please add a line in the webpage stating how to
install cinelerra, once the the PPA has been enabled?


Sure. Sorry for the delay. Somehow I messed up my git push ability to 
update the Cin site. I have to fix that first.


Ciao
Raffaella



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RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-07 Thread Nicola Ferralis
Dear All,

I finally migrated cinelerra's builds to use the new name cinelerra-cv. The 
name change will affect all the related libraries. The new builds are available 
in the main PPA:

https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa

If you have been using such PPA, I recommend installing the cinelerra-cv 
package. This will remove the old series (cinelerra) and install the new one. 
It goes without saying that the older cinelerra builds are no longer available 
nor maintained.

Raffaella, would you please add a line in the webpage stating how to install 
cinelerra, once the the PPA has been enabled?

sudo apt-get install cinelerra-cv

Please let me know if you find any issue.

Thanks.
Nicola

 

From: blchu...@iinet.net.au
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 22:07:53 +1100


  

  
  
On 06/11/12 20:32, Raffaella Traniello
  wrote:


Ciao!
  

  

  On 11/06/2012 05:20 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
  

  I looked at this-


http://cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php


which shows that Cinelerra CV has not been compiled for Ubuntu
for quite


some time


  
  

  ... actually it shows only that I forgot to update that page!!
  

  

  Sorry about that.
  

  I'll fix it as soon as I can.
  

  

  Ciao!
  

  Raffaella
  




Ah! Well, there you are: the answer is readily at hand  :-) .



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Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-06 Thread Raffaella Traniello

Ciao!

On 11/06/2012 05:20 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:

I looked at this-
http://cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php
which shows that Cinelerra CV has not been compiled for Ubuntu for quite
some time


... actually it shows only that I forgot to update that page!!

Sorry about that.
I'll fix it as soon as I can.

Ciao!
Raffaella


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Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-06 Thread Basil Chupin

On 06/11/12 20:32, Raffaella Traniello wrote:

Ciao!

On 11/06/2012 05:20 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:

I looked at this-
http://cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php
which shows that Cinelerra CV has not been compiled for Ubuntu for quite
some time


... actually it shows only that I forgot to update that page!!

Sorry about that.
I'll fix it as soon as I can.

Ciao!
Raffaella


Ah! Well, there you are: the answer is readily at hand :-) .

BC

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Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-05 Thread Sean M. Pappalardo

On 11/3/2012 9:24 PM, Nicola Ferralis wrote:

https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa

I created the cinelerra-cv  PPA repository for cases where multiple
version of cinelerra repositories were to be installed. However, that
created much trouble and the cinelerra-cv is now deprecated, and out of
date.


Does this apply to everyone? Like is the CV version itself no longer 
maintained and we should all use Heroine's version 4.x? If that's not 
the case, for those of us running straight Debian, is deb-multimedia 
still the recommended place to get the packages?


Thanks for the clarification.

Sincerely,
Sean M. Pappalardo


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Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-05 Thread Basil Chupin

On 05/11/12 20:26, Sean M. Pappalardo wrote:

On 11/3/2012 9:24 PM, Nicola Ferralis wrote:

https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa

I created the cinelerra-cv  PPA repository for cases where multiple
version of cinelerra repositories were to be installed. However, that
created much trouble and the cinelerra-cv is now deprecated, and out of
date.


Does this apply to everyone? Like is the CV version itself no longer 
maintained and we should all use Heroine's version 4.x? If that's not 
the case, for those of us running straight Debian, is deb-multimedia 
still the recommended place to get the packages?


Thanks for the clarification.


The CV is being developed day-by-day and is always ahead, in one way, of 
the heroinewarrier (v4.4) because hw only takes from CV what it 
considers to be relevant to it aims.


What your problem is is that the CV is not being compiled from source 
file for Ubuntu. On the other hand, I am using openSUSE and I have the 
very latest Cinelerra CV - released only a day or so ago - readily 
available (and installed).


BC

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Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-05 Thread Raffaella Traniello

Ciao!


On 11/3/2012 9:24 PM, Nicola Ferralis wrote:

https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa
I created the cinelerra-cv  PPA repository for cases where multiple
version of cinelerra repositories were to be installed. However, that
created much trouble and the cinelerra-cv is now deprecated, and out of
date.


I remember the discussion of a few year ago about the confusion between 
Cinelerra HV and Cinelerra CV, especially for packaging. At the time 
both packages were available for Ubuntu.

Then we decided to call the community version
cinelerra-cv
and the original upstream
cinelerra

The website title was renamed accordingly
http://cinelerra.org/

and so the git repo
http://git.cinelerra.org/gitweb?p=CinelerraCV.git;a=summary

That cleared the confusion.

I'm in favour of maintaining this tradition and naming all packages of 
the community version cinelerra-cv.
I'd prefer the PPA containing the community version to be called 
cinelerra-cv

A PPA called cinelerra should contain the HV version.

Ciao!
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Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-05 Thread Murray Strome






 From: Basil Chupin blchu...@iinet.net.au
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no 
Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 5:02:17 AM
Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
 

On 05/11/12 20:26, Sean M. Pappalardo wrote:

On 11/3/2012 9:24 PM, Nicola Ferralis wrote: 

https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa 

I created the cinelerra-cv  PPA repository for cases where
multiple 
version of cinelerra repositories were to be installed. However,
that 
created much trouble and the cinelerra-cv is now deprecated, and
out of 
date. 

Does this apply to everyone? Like is the CV version itself no
  longer maintained and we should all use Heroine's version 4.x? If
  that's not the case, for those of us running straight Debian, is
  deb-multimedia still the recommended place to get the packages? 

Thanks for the clarification. 

The CV is being developed day-by-day and is always ahead, in one
way, of the heroinewarrier (v4.4) because hw only takes from CV what
it considers to be relevant to it aims.

What your problem is is that the CV is not being compiled from
source file for Ubuntu. On the other hand, I am using openSUSE and I
have the very latest Cinelerra CV - released only a day or so ago -
readily available (and installed).

BC

I am using Ubuntu 12.10 and would not want to change distributions simply to be 
able to use Cinelerra-CV. I am getting the impression that the CV version is 
not being kept up to date for Ubuntu, and perhaps not for many other 
distributions such as Debian.  Is that correct? If so, I guess I will have to 
stick with the HW Version.
Murray


RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-05 Thread Nicola Ferralis
BC

Once again, the current cinelerra PPA is compiled from source (CV) for Ubuntu, 
in fact it is for pretty much every recent release. The current binaries are 
based on the codebase 2.2 with the recent patches. I am not sure why you keep 
saying that CV is not compiled from source for CV.

I have no interest nor motivation to make another ppa for the HW, maybe someone 
else can take that task. When time will allow me, I will try to modify the 
package names to reflect that what is in the PPA really is cinelerra-cv.

NF

 

From: wmstr...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 07:21:42 -0800



From: Basil Chupin blchu...@iinet.net.au
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no 
 Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 5:02:17 AM
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
   

  

  
  
On 05/11/12 20:26, Sean M. Pappalardo
  wrote:


On
  11/3/2012 9:24 PM, Nicola Ferralis wrote:
  

  https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa




I created the cinelerra-cv  PPA repository for cases where
multiple


version of cinelerra repositories were to be installed. However,
that


created much trouble and the cinelerra-cv is now deprecated, and
out of


date.


  
  

  Does this apply to everyone? Like is the CV version itself no
  longer maintained and we should all use Heroine's version 4.x? If
  that's not the case, for those of us running straight Debian, is
  deb-multimedia still the recommended place to get the packages?
  

  

  Thanks for the clarification.
  




The CV is being developed day-by-day and is always ahead, in one
way, of the heroinewarrier (v4.4) because hw only takes from CV what
it considers to be relevant to it aims.



What your problem is is that the CV is not being compiled from
source file for Ubuntu. On the other hand, I am using openSUSE and I
have the very latest Cinelerra CV - released only a day or so ago -
readily available (and installed).



BC

I am using Ubuntu 12.10 and would not want to change distributions simply to be 
able to use Cinelerra-CV. I am getting the impression that the CV version is 
not being kept up to date for Ubuntu, and perhaps not for many other 
distributions such as Debian.  Is that correct? If so, I guess I will have to 
stick with the HW Version.
Murray
  

RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-05 Thread Nicola Ferralis
Furthermore, as suggested, if one prefers, compiling cinelerra (either version, 
really) it's simple enough.

 

From: feran...@hotmail.com
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 08:03:13 -0800




BC

Once again, the current cinelerra PPA is compiled from source (CV) for Ubuntu, 
in fact it is for pretty much every recent release. The current binaries are 
based on the codebase 2.2 with the recent patches. I am not sure why you keep 
saying that CV is not compiled from source for CV.

I have no interest nor motivation to make another ppa for the HW, maybe someone 
else can take that task. When time will allow me, I will try to modify the 
package names to reflect that what is in the PPA really is cinelerra-cv.

NF

 


From: wmstr...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 07:21:42 -0800



From: Basil Chupin blchu...@iinet.net.au
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no 
 Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 5:02:17 AM
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
   

  

  
  
On 05/11/12 20:26, Sean M. Pappalardo
  wrote:


On
  11/3/2012 9:24 PM, Nicola Ferralis wrote:
  

  https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa




I created the cinelerra-cv  PPA repository for cases where
multiple


version of cinelerra repositories were to be installed. However,
that


created much trouble and the cinelerra-cv is now deprecated, and
out of


date.


  
  

  Does this apply to everyone? Like is the CV version itself no
  longer maintained and we should all use Heroine's version 4.x? If
  that's not the case, for those of us running straight Debian, is
  deb-multimedia still the recommended place to get the packages?
  

  

  Thanks for the clarification.
  




The CV is being developed day-by-day and is always ahead, in one
way, of the heroinewarrier (v4.4) because hw only takes from CV what
it considers to be relevant to it aims.



What your problem is is that the CV is not being compiled from
source file for Ubuntu. On the other hand, I am using openSUSE and I
have the very latest Cinelerra CV - released only a day or so ago -
readily available (and installed).



BC

I am using Ubuntu 12.10 and would not want to change distributions simply to be 
able to use Cinelerra-CV. I am getting the impression that the CV version is 
not being kept up to date for Ubuntu, and perhaps not for many other 
distributions such as Debian.  Is that correct? If so, I guess I will have to 
stick with the HW Version.
Murray

  

RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-05 Thread Nicola Ferralis
Due to the confusion over the two repositories, I am updating the cinelerra-cv 
ppa with the latest builds (currently building, available in a few hours):

A: https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/cinelerra-cv

The only difference (to the user) between these builds and those in the main PPA

B: https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa


is the different name for cinelerra (now cinelerra-cv). I would appreciate if 
anybody interested could test these new builds. A few precautions:

1. Uninstall the current cinelerra you might have from the PPA. 
2. Disable the main PPA (B, above).
3. Enable the cinelerra-ppa PPA (A, above)
4. Install cinelerra-cv. 

If no issues are found, I will port those builds to the official PPA, so that 
the only available build will be, cinelerra-cv.

Thanks,
Nicola

 

From: feran...@hotmail.com
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 08:04:36 -0800




Furthermore, as suggested, if one prefers, compiling cinelerra (either version, 
really) it's simple enough.

 


From: feran...@hotmail.com
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 08:03:13 -0800




BC

Once again, the current cinelerra PPA is compiled from source (CV) for Ubuntu, 
in fact it is for pretty much every recent release. The current binaries are 
based on the codebase 2.2 with the recent patches. I am not sure why you keep 
saying that CV is not compiled from source for CV.

I have no interest nor motivation to make another ppa for the HW, maybe someone 
else can take that task. When time will allow me, I will try to modify the 
package names to reflect that what is in the PPA really is cinelerra-cv.

NF

 


From: wmstr...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 07:21:42 -0800



From: Basil Chupin blchu...@iinet.net.au
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no 
 Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 5:02:17 AM
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
   

  

  
  
On 05/11/12 20:26, Sean M. Pappalardo
  wrote:


On
  11/3/2012 9:24 PM, Nicola Ferralis wrote:
  

  https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa




I created the cinelerra-cv  PPA repository for cases where
multiple


version of cinelerra repositories were to be installed. However,
that


created much trouble and the cinelerra-cv is now deprecated, and
out of


date.


  
  

  Does this apply to everyone? Like is the CV version itself no
  longer maintained and we should all use Heroine's version 4.x? If
  that's not the case, for those of us running straight Debian, is
  deb-multimedia still the recommended place to get the packages?
  

  

  Thanks for the clarification.
  




The CV is being developed day-by-day and is always ahead, in one
way, of the heroinewarrier (v4.4) because hw only takes from CV what
it considers to be relevant to it aims.



What your problem is is that the CV is not being compiled from
source file for Ubuntu. On the other hand, I am using openSUSE and I
have the very latest Cinelerra CV - released only a day or so ago -
readily available (and installed).



BC

I am using Ubuntu 12.10 and would not want to change distributions simply to be 
able to use Cinelerra-CV. I am getting the impression that the CV version is 
not being kept up to date for Ubuntu, and perhaps not for many other 
distributions such as Debian.  Is that correct? If so, I guess I will have to 
stick with the HW Version.
Murray

  

Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-05 Thread Sean M. Pappalardo



On 11/05/2012 02:02 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:

The CV is being developed day-by-day and is always ahead, in one way, of
the heroinewarrier (v4.4) because hw only takes from CV what it
considers to be relevant to it aims.


Okay, so we needn't worry about the different version numbers then? So 
Cin-CV built on 7 Aug 2012, though version 2.2 still has many/most 
features as Cin-HV 4.4 built on 12 Sept 2012? (The cinelerra.org home 
page doesn't have any posts since 2011.)


Sincerely,
Sean M. Pappalardo



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Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-05 Thread Herman Robak

På Mon, 05 Nov 2012 14:02:17 +0100, skrev Basil Chupin blchu...@iinet.net.au:
The CV is being developed day-by-day and is always ahead, in one
way, of the heroinewarrier (v4.4) because hw only takes from CV what
it considers to be relevant to it aims.
Nope. CinHV used to be "upstream", which CinCV _followed_,by merging with CinHV's releases. CinHV has progressed fastermost of the time between those merges.And CinCV broke off with upstream after CinHV 4.0, becausemerging became hard. Since then CinCV must have fallenbehind quite considerably, though I have not tested CinHVlately to see how big the difference is.-- Herman Robak

Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-05 Thread Raffaella Traniello

Ciao!

 And CinCV broke off with upstream after CinHV 4.0, because

merging became hard.  Since then CinCV must have fallen
behind quite considerably,


I don't think so.
They diverged.
CV has some feature that are not in HV
and HV has some features that are not on CV.

A clear distinction on the website is needed.

Anyone here is using both Cinelerras?
Can we make a collection of differences?

Ciao!
Raffaella


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Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-05 Thread Basil Chupin

On 06/11/12 03:03, Nicola Ferralis wrote:

BC

Once again, the current cinelerra PPA is compiled from source (CV) for 
Ubuntu, in fact it is for pretty much every recent release. The 
current binaries are based on the codebase 2.2 with the recent 
patches. I am not sure why you keep saying that CV is not compiled 
from source for CV.


I have no interest nor motivation to make another ppa for the HW, 
maybe someone else can take that task. When time will allow me, I will 
try to modify the package names to reflect that what is in the PPA 
really is cinelerra-cv.


NF


Ummm, what would you compile it from other than the source? :-)

I looked at this-

http://cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php

which shows that Cinelerra CV has not been compiled for Ubuntu for quite 
some time - but I got my copy updated only a few hours ago with the 
latest update release made available only some 4 hours ago (at the time 
of writing this).


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Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-05 Thread Basil Chupin

On 06/11/12 02:21, Murray Strome wrote:




*From:* Basil Chupin blchu...@iinet.net.au
*To:* cinelerra@skolelinux.no
*Sent:* Monday, November 5, 2012 5:02:17 AM
*Subject:* Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

On 05/11/12 20:26, Sean M. Pappalardo wrote:

On 11/3/2012 9:24 PM, Nicola Ferralis wrote:
https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa 
https://launchpad.net/%7Ecinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa


I created the cinelerra-cv  PPA repository for cases where multiple
version of cinelerra repositories were to be installed. However, that
created much trouble and the cinelerra-cv is now deprecated, and out of
date.


Does this apply to everyone? Like is the CV version itself no longer 
maintained and we should all use Heroine's version 4.x? If that's not 
the case, for those of us running straight Debian, is deb-multimedia 
still the recommended place to get the packages?


Thanks for the clarification.


The CV is being developed day-by-day and is always ahead, in one way, 
of the heroinewarrier (v4.4) because hw only takes from CV what it 
considers to be relevant to it aims.


What your problem is is that the CV is not being compiled from source 
file for Ubuntu. On the other hand, I am using openSUSE and I have the 
very latest Cinelerra CV - released only a day or so ago - readily 
available (and installed).


BC

I am using Ubuntu 12.10 and would not want to change distributions 
simply to be able to use Cinelerra-CV. I am getting the impression 
that the CV version is not being kept up to date for Ubuntu, and 
perhaps not for many other distributions such as Debian.  Is that 
correct? If so, I guess I will have to stick with the HW Version.

Murray


Which distro you use is not for me to say but I have tried (almost) all 
of them and there is nothing as good as... :-) .


I looked here to see which versions were available for which distro-

http://cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php

Whether this list is up to date, I don' know.

BC

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RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-05 Thread Nicola Ferralis
Basil,

If you refer to packages in in the official Ubuntu repositories, well you won't 
find any. That is why I made the PPA in first place. 
Regarding cinelerra.org, I don't really know what is in the official website 
other than links to various sources. All I know is that the PPA offers builds 
with the current version of the source for git (with patches of 09/24/2012). In 
fact these binaries were compiled on the 10/10/2012. 

Now, you may have a source that is newer than the official git in 
cinelerra.org. All I know is that the last update on it was on 09/24. The next 
time an the git tree is update, you will find a new build for Ubuntu in the 
PPA. This obviously doesn't prevent people from compiling their own packages.

Regards,
Nicola


 

From: blchu...@iinet.net.au
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:20:16 +1100


  

  
  
On 06/11/12 03:03, Nicola Ferralis
  wrote:



  
  BC



Once again, the current cinelerra PPA is compiled from source
(CV) for Ubuntu, in fact it is for pretty much every recent
release. The current binaries are based on the codebase 2.2 with
the recent patches. I am not sure why you keep saying that CV is
not compiled from source for CV.



I have no interest nor motivation to make another ppa for the
HW, maybe someone else can take that task. When time will allow
me, I will try to modify the package names to reflect that what
is in the PPA really is cinelerra-cv.



NF

  



Ummm, what would you compile it from other than the source?  :-) 



I looked at this-



http://cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php



which shows that Cinelerra CV has not been compiled for Ubuntu for
quite some time - but I got my copy updated only a few hours ago
with the latest update release made available only some 4 hours ago
(at the time of writing this).



BC

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[CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-03 Thread Murray Strome
After reading the Handy Tutorial, Install Cinelerra in Ubuntu 12.04  
12.10http://handytutorial.com/install-cinelerra-in-ubuntu-12-04-12-10/
I decided that it would be best to install the CV version on my newly installed 
Ubuntu 12.10.However, when I tried to do so following the instructions in the 
tutorial, I get the following error message:Some packages could not be 
installed. This may mean that you haverequested an impossible situation or if 
you are using the unstabledistribution that some required packages have not yet 
been createdor been moved out of Incoming.The following information may help 
resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies: cinelerra-cv : Depends: 
libguicast1 (= 1:2.2-0.6~ppa1~quantal1) but 1:2.2-0.12~ppa1~quantal1 is to be 
installed                Depends: libmpeg3cine (= 1:2.2-0.6~ppa1~quantal1) but 
1:2.2-0.12~ppa1~quantal1 is to be installed                Depends: 
libquicktimecine (= 1:2.2-0.6~ppa1~quantal1) but 1:2.2-0.12~ppa1~quantal1 is to 
be installedE: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken 
packages.--I then decided to just install the other version 
(sudo apt-get install cinelerra) after adding that repository. It seemed to 
install OK.
Which version is recommended?  Of course, if I want to use it, my only option 
is the non-CV version.  Is this problem a bug which needs to be fixed, or is 
there something different that I should be doing?
Thanks for any suggestions/advice.



Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-03 Thread David Armstrong
The PPA install binary has been prepared for 12.04 (correct me if I am 
wrong).
Haven't heard of anyone compiling under 12.10 yet, and hence overcoming 
any issues likely to occur.


Will let the more technical boffins on this distribution list expand 
further...


BTW, I'm not planning to upgrade my 12.04 at the moment.



On 04/11/12 11:26, Murray Strome wrote:
After reading the Handy Tutorial, Install Cinelerra in Ubuntu 12.04  
12.10

http://handytutorial.com/install-cinelerra-in-ubuntu-12-04-12-10/

I decided that it would be best to install the CV version on my newly 
installed Ubuntu 12.10.
However, when I tried to do so following the instructions in the 
tutorial, I get the following error message:

Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 cinelerra-cv : Depends: libguicast1 (= 1:2.2-0.6~ppa1~quantal1) but 
1:2.2-0.12~ppa1~quantal1 is to be installed
Depends: libmpeg3cine (= 1:2.2-0.6~ppa1~quantal1) but 
1:2.2-0.12~ppa1~quantal1 is to be installed
Depends: libquicktimecine (= 1:2.2-0.6~ppa1~quantal1) 
but 1:2.2-0.12~ppa1~quantal1 is to be installed

E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
--
I then decided to just install the other version (sudo apt-get install 
cinelerra) after adding that repository. It seemed to install OK.


Which version is recommended?  Of course, if I want to use it, my only 
option is the non-CV version.  Is this problem a bug which needs to be 
fixed, or is there something different that I should be doing?


Thanks for any suggestions/advice.






RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-03 Thread Nicola Ferralis
The official, maintained and up-to-date PPA for cinelerra is, well, cinelerra 
(not cinelerra-cv):

https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa

I created the cinelerra-cv  PPA repository for cases where multiple version of 
cinelerra repositories were to be installed. However, that created much trouble 
and the cinelerra-cv is now deprecated, and out of date.

From a binary perspective, both PPA come from the same source, i.e. the 
community version of cinelerra. So I strongly recommend to use the one 
provided in the link above.

Current packages in the cinelerra PPA ara available for ubuntu releases from 
Hardy (8.04) to Quantal (12.10).

As I maintain the PPA, please let me know if you have any question/comment/bug 
to report.

Nicola

 

From: bod...@netspace.net.au
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 11:59:25 +1100


  

  
  
The PPA install binary has been prepared for 12.04 (correct me if I
am wrong). 

Haven't heard of anyone compiling under 12.10 yet, and hence
overcoming any issues likely to occur.



Will let the more technical boffins on this distribution list expand
further...



BTW, I'm not planning to upgrade my 12.04 at the moment. 







On 04/11/12 11:26, Murray Strome wrote:



  

  
After reading the Handy Tutorial, Install
Cinelerra in Ubuntu 12.04  12.10
  http://handytutorial.com/install-cinelerra-in-ubuntu-12-04-12-10/
  


  I decided that it would
  be best to install the CV version on my newly
  installed Ubuntu 12.10.
  However, when I tried to
  do so following the instructions in the tutorial, I
  get the following error message:
  
  Some packages could not be installed. This may
mean that you have
  requested an impossible situation or if you are
using the unstable
  distribution that some required packages have not
yet been created
  or been moved out of Incoming.
  The following information may help resolve the
situation:
  

  
  The following packages have unmet dependencies:
   cinelerra-cv : Depends: libguicast1 (=
1:2.2-0.6~ppa1~quantal1) but
1:2.2-0.12~ppa1~quantal1 is to be installed
  Depends: libmpeg3cine (=
1:2.2-0.6~ppa1~quantal1) but
1:2.2-0.12~ppa1~quantal1 is to be installed
  Depends: libquicktimecine (=
1:2.2-0.6~ppa1~quantal1) but
1:2.2-0.12~ppa1~quantal1 is to be installed
  E: Unable to correct problems, you have held
broken packages.
  --
  I then decided to just install the other version
(sudo apt-get install cinelerra) after adding that
repository. It seemed to install OK.
  

  
  Which version is recommended?  Of course, if I
want to use it, my only option is the non-CV
version.  Is this problem a bug which needs to be
fixed, or is there something different that I should
be doing?
  

  
  Thanks for any suggestions/advice.
  

  
  

  


  

  


  

RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-03 Thread Nicola Ferralis
PPA binaries are available for 12.04. I will start preparing packages for 13.04 
fairly soon.

 

From: bod...@netspace.net.au
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 11:59:25 +1100


  

  
  
The PPA install binary has been prepared for 12.04 (correct me if I
am wrong). 

Haven't heard of anyone compiling under 12.10 yet, and hence
overcoming any issues likely to occur.



Will let the more technical boffins on this distribution list expand
further...



BTW, I'm not planning to upgrade my 12.04 at the moment. 







On 04/11/12 11:26, Murray Strome wrote:



  

  
After reading the Handy Tutorial, Install
Cinelerra in Ubuntu 12.04  12.10
  http://handytutorial.com/install-cinelerra-in-ubuntu-12-04-12-10/
  


  I decided that it would
  be best to install the CV version on my newly
  installed Ubuntu 12.10.
  However, when I tried to
  do so following the instructions in the tutorial, I
  get the following error message:
  
  Some packages could not be installed. This may
mean that you have
  requested an impossible situation or if you are
using the unstable
  distribution that some required packages have not
yet been created
  or been moved out of Incoming.
  The following information may help resolve the
situation:
  

  
  The following packages have unmet dependencies:
   cinelerra-cv : Depends: libguicast1 (=
1:2.2-0.6~ppa1~quantal1) but
1:2.2-0.12~ppa1~quantal1 is to be installed
  Depends: libmpeg3cine (=
1:2.2-0.6~ppa1~quantal1) but
1:2.2-0.12~ppa1~quantal1 is to be installed
  Depends: libquicktimecine (=
1:2.2-0.6~ppa1~quantal1) but
1:2.2-0.12~ppa1~quantal1 is to be installed
  E: Unable to correct problems, you have held
broken packages.
  --
  I then decided to just install the other version
(sudo apt-get install cinelerra) after adding that
repository. It seemed to install OK.
  

  
  Which version is recommended?  Of course, if I
want to use it, my only option is the non-CV
version.  Is this problem a bug which needs to be
fixed, or is there something different that I should
be doing?
  

  
  Thanks for any suggestions/advice.
  

  
  

  


  

  


  

RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-03 Thread Nicola Ferralis
I just uploaded the new source for Raring (13.04). Binaries will be available 
for it in the next few hours in the Cinelerra ppa.

 

From: feran...@hotmail.com
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 18:30:00 -0700




PPA binaries are available for 12.04. I will start preparing packages for 13.04 
fairly soon.

 


From: bod...@netspace.net.au
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 11:59:25 +1100


  

  
  
The PPA install binary has been prepared for 12.04 (correct me if I
am wrong). 

Haven't heard of anyone compiling under 12.10 yet, and hence
overcoming any issues likely to occur.



Will let the more technical boffins on this distribution list expand
further...



BTW, I'm not planning to upgrade my 12.04 at the moment. 







On 04/11/12 11:26, Murray Strome wrote:



  

  
After reading the Handy Tutorial, Install
Cinelerra in Ubuntu 12.04  12.10
  http://handytutorial.com/install-cinelerra-in-ubuntu-12-04-12-10/
  


  I decided that it would
  be best to install the CV version on my newly
  installed Ubuntu 12.10.
  However, when I tried to
  do so following the instructions in the tutorial, I
  get the following error message:
  
  Some packages could not be installed. This may
mean that you have
  requested an impossible situation or if you are
using the unstable
  distribution that some required packages have not
yet been created
  or been moved out of Incoming.
  The following information may help resolve the
situation:
  

  
  The following packages have unmet dependencies:
   cinelerra-cv : Depends: libguicast1 (=
1:2.2-0.6~ppa1~quantal1) but
1:2.2-0.12~ppa1~quantal1 is to be installed
  Depends: libmpeg3cine (=
1:2.2-0.6~ppa1~quantal1) but
1:2.2-0.12~ppa1~quantal1 is to be installed
  Depends: libquicktimecine (=
1:2.2-0.6~ppa1~quantal1) but
1:2.2-0.12~ppa1~quantal1 is to be installed
  E: Unable to correct problems, you have held
broken packages.
  --
  I then decided to just install the other version
(sudo apt-get install cinelerra) after adding that
repository. It seemed to install OK.
  

  
  Which version is recommended?  Of course, if I
want to use it, my only option is the non-CV
version.  Is this problem a bug which needs to be
fixed, or is there something different that I should
be doing?
  

  
  Thanks for any suggestions/advice.