Re: [c-nsp] Insufficient memory to boot image on 827?

2010-03-22 Thread Steve Edmonson
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Billy Guthrie b...@billyguthrie.com wrote:
 Steve

 unless some odd memory allocation is occurring and based on what you
 provided, then you do not have enough
 memory to load the image. One thing to take in consideration is that the
 images are compressed, so during the boot
 process the router will decompress the image and if you do not have enough
 memory, it will obviously fail to boot.
 You say that you are running the 12.4(5C), but what feature set (IP/FW, IP
 Plus, IP)? Take note, that if you are
 trying to boot the IP PUS image this is what is more than likely causing
 your issue. This image requires at least 32MB
 of RAM to boot. What is the file name that you copied to flash?

When the image is booting, it uncompresses OK. The insufficient memory
error does not appear until later in the boot process.I am trying to
use the IP feature set. As you say, the other images require more
memory than this 827 has. The file name was c820-y6-mz.124-5c.bin.

Thanks for the reply
Steve
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Re: [c-nsp] Insufficient memory to boot image on 827?

2010-03-22 Thread Steve Edmonson
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Nigel Roy ni...@theroys.me.uk wrote:
 Hi Steve,

 I had a similar thing with an 1801 - there was a memory command in the config 
 allocating some of the Ram to IO.

 Can't remember exactly what the command was but worth checking!

 Regards Nigel


Off list I had memory-size iomem suggested to me which may be what you
are thinking of. That command unfortunately does not appear to exist
on my 827.

Thank you for the suggestion
Steve
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[c-nsp] IOS Image for Voice GateKeeper

2010-03-22 Thread Felix Nkansah
Hello,

Please which is the lowest IOS image packages (and licenses if any) that
would support the following functionalities on my Cisco 2800 series routers


   - Voice Gateway


   - Voice Gatekeeper

Thanks in advance for your replies.

Felix
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Re: [c-nsp] 6500 nvram contents changing

2010-03-22 Thread Ben Cooper
John,

It looks like Jared was correct, we had another instance of rancid
running on another box a roughly the same time, I shifted the the cron
job forward 30 minutes, and the diffs have stopped.

Kind Regards,

Ben Cooper
Support and Infrastructure Manager
Hub Network Services Ltd
Phone:  0117 9200045
Fax:0127 5394292

For system or network support, please email supp...@hns.net

On 19/03/2010 17:18, john heasley wrote:
 Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 10:40:20AM -0400, Jared Mauch:
 This typically happens if someone is viewing the startup-config (eg: show 
 conf) as it is locked.
 
 afaict, reading nor writing locks the nvram fsys in such a way that
 dir /all nvram:, the command rancid uses, fails.  it seems to wait
 as you'd expect the locking to work, though not in a fifo manner.
 at least, i can't reproduce this on 12.2.18SXF16.
 
 if it did fail, i'd expect that it the cli would return an error,
 which rancid may not recognize.  in cases where the fsys is locked,
 like for one being squeezed, the cli normally produces errors like
 
 Open device \S+ failed
 Error opening \S+:
 
 which rancid does recognize.
 
 it may be that write memory removes all the nvram files, then writes
 the new ones and you're just lucky.  other ideas?
 
 - Jared

 On Mar 19, 2010, at 7:58 AM, Ben Cooper wrote:

 Hi,

 We use rancid to retrieve configs from our cisco kit, recently one of
 our 6500s (s72033_rp-ADVENTERPRISEK9_WAN-M Version 12.2(33)SXH3) has
 started reporting nvram content changes sporadically throughout the day, eg:

  !Flash: nvram: Directory of nvram:/
  !Flash: nvram:  1918  -rw-   26788no date  
 startup-config
  !Flash: nvram:  1919    24no date  
 private-config
  !Flash: nvram:  1920  -rw-   26788no date  
 underlying-config
 - !Flash: nvram: 1     4no date  
 rf_cold_starts
 - !Flash: nvram: 2    48no date  
 persistent-data
 - !Flash: nvram: 3  -rw-4887no date  
 ifIndex-table
  !Flash: nvram: 1964024 bytes total (1929992 bytes free)

  !Flash: nvram: Directory of nvram:/
 - !Flash: nvram: No files in directory
 + !Flash: nvram:  1918  -rw-   26788no date  
 startup-config
 + !Flash: nvram:  1919    24no date  
 private-config
 + !Flash: nvram:  1920  -rw-   26788no date  
 underlying-config
 + !Flash: nvram: 1     4no date  
 rf_cold_starts
 + !Flash: nvram: 2    48no date  
 persistent-data
 + !Flash: nvram: 3  -rw-4887no date  
 ifIndex-table
  !Flash: nvram: 1964024 bytes total (1929992 bytes free)

 Has anyone experienced this behaviour before?

 Thanks,

 Ben
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[c-nsp] c6509 booting in ROMMON

2010-03-22 Thread Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
Hello list,

I have tried to debug this for a long time but I'm stuck. Here is the
situation.

I have a SUP720-3BXL (MSFC3) running on
s72033-advipservicesk9_wan-mz.122-33.SXH2a.bin that went crazy just before
X-mas eve, after two years of loyal services !

After some log reading, I found out I was affected by bug CSCsc33990 :

Causes and Resolutions:
* If there is any corruption in the TCAM entries, the *SPRPInbandPing test
can fail*. If the test, ran as
part of Cisco Generic Online Diagnostics (GOLD), fails 10 times
consecutively, then the supervisor
engine can crash.

In order to resolve the issue, upgrade the Cisco IOS software to a release
not affected by Cisco bug ID
CSCsc33990 ( registered customers only) .

* If health-monitoring is enabled on the device and complete diagnostics is
configured during the
startup, then the supervisor can crash at the time of the boot process.
Health-monitoring and complete diagnostics conflict with each other for some
tests. As a
workaround, disable either of them, which depends on your requirement.



I have taken back the faulty card back to my office where I have a spare
chassi (comes in handy sometimes ;-) and now the sup720 boots in ROMMON.

I thought maybe my bootdisk (sup-bootflash or sup-bootdisk) whas corrupted
because It was old. I tried this :

- boot on disk0 with the same IOS  === OK

- format bootdisk then copy IOS from disk0: to bootdisk: === OK

- Reload with my bootvar pointing to the image on bootdisk: === NOK

- from ROMMON, boot using the image on bootdisk: === OK  (look below for
output)



BB1.IX1#reload
Proceed with reload? [confirm]

*Mar 22 10:23:37.587: %SYS-5-RELOAD: Reload requested by console. Reload
Reason: Reload Command.
Mar 22 10:23:41.836: %SYS-SP-3-LOGGER_FLUSHING: System pausing to ensure
console debugging output.

Mar 22 10:23:41.836: %OIR-SP-6-CONSOLE: Changing console ownership to switch
processor



Mar 22 10:23:42.040: %SYS-SP-3-LOGGER_FLUSHED: System was paused for
00:00:00 to ensure console debugging output.

Mar 22 10:23:44.615: %SYS-SP-3-LOGGER_FLUSHING: System pausing to ensure
console debugging output.



***
*** --- SHUTDOWN NOW ---
***

Mar 22 10:23:44.615: %SYS-SP-5-RELOAD: Reload requested
Mar 22 10:23:44.615: %OIR-SP-6-CONSOLE: Changing console ownership to switch
processor



Mar 22 10:23:44.923: %SYS-SP-3-LOGGER_FLUSHED: System was paused for
00:00:00 to ensure console debugging output.

System Bootstrap, Version 8.4(2) Release
Copyright (c) 1994-2005 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Cat6k-Sup720/SP processor with 1048576 Kbytes of main memory

rommon 1 
rommon 1 
rommon 1  dev
Devices in device table:
id  name
 bootdisk:  boot disk
disk0:  PCMCIA Disk 0
disk1:  PCMCIA Disk 1
eprom:  eprom
rommon 2  dir bootdisk:

Initializing ATA monitor library...
Directory of bootdisk:

2  78203396  -rw- s72033-advipservicesk9_wan-mz.122-33.SXH2a.bin
308433554432  -rw- sea_log.dat
rommon 3 
rommon 3 
rommon 3  boot bootdisk:s72033-advipservicesk9_wan-mz.122-33.SXH2a.bin
Loading image, please wait ...


Initializing ATA monitor library...



I Decided then to change th CF on the SUP720 with a brand new one, no
change. I am still experiencing the same symptoms.



Any ideas what might cause this ? Would you recommend an upgrade in order to
solve this ? Is my SUP720 dead ?

Thanks for your feedback.

Best regards.

Y.

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Re: [c-nsp] Odd problem with bgp resets on SRD3

2010-03-22 Thread teslenko.and...@gmail.com

Hello all,

We have faced the same problem when we have tried to update to version
SRD4.
Our hardware is  Cisco 7600 with RSP720-3CXL-GE with 2GB RAM and
WS-X6704-10GE.
We have observed the bgp notification in logging such as neighbor
1xx.x.x.x 3/1 (update malformed).
The all sessions get down after that with message Down No memory

Who was faced with such problem also? How to solve it?

We had the following errors log occur:

%BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 1xx.x.x.x Down BGP Notification sent
%BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: sent to neighbor 1xx.x.x.x 3/1 (update malformed) 0
bytes
%BGP-4-MSGDUMP: unsupported or mal-formatted message received from
1xx.x.x.x:         004F 0200  3440
0101 0040 0208 0203 00AE 04D7 8F11 4003 0495 068D A980 0404 0001 4C26
4006 00C0 0706 8F11  D018 1489 C008 0800 AE52 0800 AE55 FD18 C029 A2
%BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 10.x.x.x vpn vrf XX Down No memory
%BGP_SESSION-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 10.x.x.x IPv4 Unicast vpn vrf IT
topology  base removed from session  No memory
%BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 6x.x.x.x Down No memory
%BGP_SESSION-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 6x.x.x.x IPv4 Unicast topology base
removed  from session  No memory ...



Mack McBride пишет:
 I am looking at 2 - 7600s with RSP720-3CXLs w/ 4GB of RAM and 6708-3CXL cards 
 running SRD3.
 These are not currently production equipment but are connected to upstreams
 as well as route-reflectors but are not advertising routes as we have 
 advertisements blocked
 with a deny-all prefix list.  We THINK the dumped BGP packet is correctly 
 formatted and
 the packet dumped is actually the packet before the bad packet.  Has anyone 
 else
 seen similar issues?  Does anyone else know if this is a known bug that 
 exists in this code or
 early versions of the SRD train?  I know there are entirely too many caveats 
 in SRC5.
 
 Mack McBride
 Network Architect
 ViaWest, Inc.
 
 We had the following errors occur:
 
 Log from 7600-01:
 Nov 24 02:41:59.696 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 207.xx.xx.xx Down BGP 
 Notification sent
 Nov 24 02:41:59.696 MST: %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: sent to neighbor 207.xx.xx.xx 
 3/1 (update malformed) 0 bytes
 Nov 24 02:41:59.696 MST: %BGP-4-MSGDUMP: unsupported or mal-formatted message 
 received from 207.xx.xx.xx:
         0064 0200  4940 0101 0040 0208 
 0203
 10E3 00AE 0865 4003 04CF FA73 1540 0600 C007 0608 659A 3604 36C0 0824 10E3 
 0033
 10E3 01F5 10E3 03F7 10E3 09C7 10E3 C350 FE4D 03F7 FE4E 0004 FE4F 0001 FE50 
 012D
 18C0 2104
 Nov 24 02:41:59.748 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 74.xx.xx.xx1 Down No 
 memory
 Nov 24 02:41:59.748 MST: %BGP_SESSION-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 74.xx.xx.xx1 IPv4 
 Unicast topology base removed from session  No memory
 Nov 24 02:41:59.748 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 74.xx.xx.xx2 Down No 
 memory
 Nov 24 02:41:59.748 MST: %BGP_SESSION-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 74.xx.xx.xx2 IPv4 
 Unicast topology base removed from session  No memory
 Nov 24 02:41:59.748 MST: %BGP_SESSION-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 207.xx.xx.xx IPv4 
 Unicast topology base removed from session  BGP Notification sent
 Nov 24 02:42:06.384 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 207.xx.xx.xx Up
 Nov 24 02:42:12.640 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 74.xx.xx.xx2 Up
 Nov 24 02:42:12.672 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 74.xx.xx.xx1 Up
 Nov 24 02:42:31.436 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 207.xx.xx.xx Down BGP 
 Notification sent
 Nov 24 02:42:31.436 MST: %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: sent to neighbor 207.xx.xx.xx 
 3/1 (update malformed) 0 bytes
 Nov 24 02:42:31.440 MST: %BGP-4-MSGDUMP: unsupported or mal-formatted message 
 received from 207.xx.xx.xx:
         0064 0200  4940 0101 0040 0208 
 0203
 10E3 00AE 0865 4003 04CF FA73 1540 0600 C007 0608 659A 3604 42C0 0824 10E3 
 0033
 10E3 01F5 10E3 03F7 10E3 09C7 10E3 C350 FE4D 03F7 FE4E 0004 FE4F 0001 FE50 
 012D
 18C0 2104
 Nov 24 02:42:31.504 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 74.xx.xx.xx1 Down No 
 memory
 Nov 24 02:42:31.504 MST: %BGP_SESSION-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 74.xx.xx.xx1 IPv4 
 Unicast topology base removed from session  No memory
 Nov 24 02:42:31.504 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 74.xx.xx.xx2 Down No 
 memory
 Nov 24 02:42:31.504 MST: %BGP_SESSION-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 74.xx.xx.xx2 IPv4 
 Unicast topology base removed from session  No memory
 Nov 24 02:42:31.504 MST: %BGP_SESSION-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 207.xx.xx.xx IPv4 
 Unicast topology base removed from session  BGP Notification sent
 Nov 24 02:42:38.620 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 74.xx.xx.xx2 Up
 Nov 24 02:42:38.620 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 207.xx.xx.xx Up
 Nov 24 02:42:42.928 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 74.xx.xx.xx1 Up
 
 7600-02:
 Nov 24 02:42:16.343 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 4.xx.xx.xx Down BGP 
 Notification sent
 Nov 24 02:42:16.343 MST: %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: sent to neighbor 4.xx.xx.xx 3/1 
 (update malformed) 0 bytes
 Nov 24 02:42:16.343 MST: %BGP-4-MSGDUMP: unsupported or mal-formatted message 
 received from 4.xx.xx.xx:
 

Re: [c-nsp] c6509 booting in ROMMON

2010-03-22 Thread Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
Hello,

My bootvar / confreg looks correct to me, doesn't it ?

BB1.IX1#sh bootvar
BOOT variable =
sup-bootdisk:s72033-advipservicesk9_wan-mz.122-33.SXH2a.bin,1;
CONFIG_FILE variable =
BOOTLDR variable =
Configuration register is 0x2102

Y.



2010/3/22 William McCall william.mcc...@gmail.com

 Check the conf reg for the sp. IIRC, it also resets the confreg in its
 stupidity. I ran into this same bug in production and recall having to
 set it again.

 On 3/22/10, Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr yous...@720.fr wrote:
  Hello list,
 
  I have tried to debug this for a long time but I'm stuck. Here is the
  situation.
 
  I have a SUP720-3BXL (MSFC3) running on
  s72033-advipservicesk9_wan-mz.122-33.SXH2a.bin that went crazy just
 before
  X-mas eve, after two years of loyal services !
 
  After some log reading, I found out I was affected by bug CSCsc33990 :
 
  Causes and Resolutions:
  * If there is any corruption in the TCAM entries, the *SPRPInbandPing
 test
  can fail*. If the test, ran as
  part of Cisco Generic Online Diagnostics (GOLD), fails 10 times
  consecutively, then the supervisor
  engine can crash.
 
  In order to resolve the issue, upgrade the Cisco IOS software to a
 release
  not affected by Cisco bug ID
  CSCsc33990 ( registered customers only) .
 
  * If health-monitoring is enabled on the device and complete diagnostics
 is
  configured during the
  startup, then the supervisor can crash at the time of the boot process.
  Health-monitoring and complete diagnostics conflict with each other for
 some
  tests. As a
  workaround, disable either of them, which depends on your requirement.
 
 
 
  I have taken back the faulty card back to my office where I have a spare
  chassi (comes in handy sometimes ;-) and now the sup720 boots in ROMMON.
 
  I thought maybe my bootdisk (sup-bootflash or sup-bootdisk) whas
 corrupted
  because It was old. I tried this :
 
  - boot on disk0 with the same IOS  === OK
 
  - format bootdisk then copy IOS from disk0: to bootdisk: === OK
 
  - Reload with my bootvar pointing to the image on bootdisk: === NOK
 
  - from ROMMON, boot using the image on bootdisk: === OK  (look below for
  output)
 
 
 
  BB1.IX1#reload
  Proceed with reload? [confirm]
 
  *Mar 22 10:23:37.587: %SYS-5-RELOAD: Reload requested by console. Reload
  Reason: Reload Command.
  Mar 22 10:23:41.836: %SYS-SP-3-LOGGER_FLUSHING: System pausing to ensure
  console debugging output.
 
  Mar 22 10:23:41.836: %OIR-SP-6-CONSOLE: Changing console ownership to
 switch
  processor
 
 
 
  Mar 22 10:23:42.040: %SYS-SP-3-LOGGER_FLUSHED: System was paused for
  00:00:00 to ensure console debugging output.
 
  Mar 22 10:23:44.615: %SYS-SP-3-LOGGER_FLUSHING: System pausing to ensure
  console debugging output.
 
 
 
  ***
  *** --- SHUTDOWN NOW ---
  ***
 
  Mar 22 10:23:44.615: %SYS-SP-5-RELOAD: Reload requested
  Mar 22 10:23:44.615: %OIR-SP-6-CONSOLE: Changing console ownership to
 switch
  processor
 
 
 
  Mar 22 10:23:44.923: %SYS-SP-3-LOGGER_FLUSHED: System was paused for
  00:00:00 to ensure console debugging output.
 
  System Bootstrap, Version 8.4(2) Release
  Copyright (c) 1994-2005 by cisco Systems, Inc.
  Cat6k-Sup720/SP processor with 1048576 Kbytes of main memory
 
  rommon 1 
  rommon 1 
  rommon 1  dev
  Devices in device table:
  id  name
   bootdisk:  boot disk
  disk0:  PCMCIA Disk 0
  disk1:  PCMCIA Disk 1
  eprom:  eprom
  rommon 2  dir bootdisk:
 
  Initializing ATA monitor library...
  Directory of bootdisk:
 
  2  78203396  -rw- s72033-advipservicesk9_wan-mz.122-33.SXH2a.bin
  308433554432  -rw- sea_log.dat
  rommon 3 
  rommon 3 
  rommon 3  boot bootdisk:s72033-advipservicesk9_wan-mz.122-33.SXH2a.bin
  Loading image, please wait ...
 
 
  Initializing ATA monitor library...
 
 
 
  I Decided then to change th CF on the SUP720 with a brand new one, no
  change. I am still experiencing the same symptoms.
 
 
 
  Any ideas what might cause this ? Would you recommend an upgrade in order
 to
  solve this ? Is my SUP720 dead ?
 
  Thanks for your feedback.
 
  Best regards.
 
  Y.
 
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Re: [c-nsp] c6509 booting in ROMMON

2010-03-22 Thread Dale Shaw
Hi,

On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
yous...@720.fr wrote:

 My bootvar / confreg looks correct to me, doesn't it ?

What does this give you?

#remote command switch sh bootvar

cheers,
Dale
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Re: [c-nsp] IPv6: Getting started

2010-03-22 Thread Tima Maryin

Hello!

Peter Rathlev wrote:


Q: We run an MPLS VPN network, global routing only used for management.
According to this document (which should also cover 12.2SX):

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/ipv6/configuration/guide/ip6-ov_mpls_6vpe.html#wp1054029


6VPE supports an MPLS IPv4-signaled core. An MPLS IPv6-signaled core
is not supported.


We have to keep an IPv4 core then? I guess the important part is to
enable IPv6 for the users and services, but (excuse my french) it seems
a little half-assed to not support an IPv6 core. Especially MPLS being
what it is.



Why don't keep it ipv4?
If you run MPLS VPN netowork i don't see why you want something else in core.
MPLS don't care about ipv4/6 and PE just assign labels for prefix/vpn and 
distribute it to other PEs.


For me it looks like double security here, if your core has no ipv6 i can't be 
accessed (read: hacked) from outside ipv6 world/vpns.


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Re: [c-nsp] IOS Image for Voice GateKeeper

2010-03-22 Thread Ryan West
Ip voice.

Sent from handheld.

On Mar 22, 2010, at 4:43 AM, Felix Nkansah felixnkan...@gmail.com  
wrote:

 Hello,

 Please which is the lowest IOS image packages (and licenses if any)  
 that
 would support the following functionalities on my Cisco 2800 series  
 routers


   - Voice Gateway


   - Voice Gatekeeper

 Thanks in advance for your replies.

 Felix
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Re: [c-nsp] c6509 booting in ROMMON

2010-03-22 Thread Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
Hello all,

Here is the result :

BB1.IX1#remote command switch sh bootvar

BOOT variable = bootdisk:s72033-advipservicesk9_wan-mz.122-33.SXH2a.bin,1;
CONFIG_FILE variable does not exist
BOOTLDR variable does not exist
Configuration register is 0x2100

Confregs aren't identical ? How do I change this ?

How come is this possible ?

Thanks.

Y.



2010/3/22 Dale Shaw
dale.shaw+cisco-...@gmail.comdale.shaw%2bcisco-...@gmail.com


 Hi,

 On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
 yous...@720.fr wrote:
 
  My bootvar / confreg looks correct to me, doesn't it ?

 What does this give you?

 #remote command switch sh bootvar

 cheers,
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Re: [c-nsp] c6509 booting in ROMMON

2010-03-22 Thread Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
Hey,

Googled it, found this :

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps708/products_tech_note09186a00803e5282.shtml

Will that solv my problems ?

Thanks.

Y.



2010/3/22 Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr yous...@720.fr

 Hello all,

 Here is the result :

 BB1.IX1#remote command switch sh bootvar

 BOOT variable = bootdisk:s72033-advipservicesk9_wan-mz.122-33.SXH2a.bin,1;
 CONFIG_FILE variable does not exist
 BOOTLDR variable does not exist
 Configuration register is 0x2100

 Confregs aren't identical ? How do I change this ?

 How come is this possible ?

 Thanks.

 Y.



 2010/3/22 Dale Shaw 
 dale.shaw+cisco-...@gmail.comdale.shaw%2bcisco-...@gmail.com
 

 Hi,

 On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
 yous...@720.fr wrote:
 
  My bootvar / confreg looks correct to me, doesn't it ?

 What does this give you?

 #remote command switch sh bootvar

 cheers,
 Dale




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Re: [c-nsp] c6509 booting in ROMMON

2010-03-22 Thread Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
Hello all,

Solved it, that did the trick.

Question is : how could that happen ?

I'd better check that my production chassis are ok :-)

Thanks.

Y.



2010/3/22 Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr yous...@720.fr

 Hey,

 Googled it, found this :


 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps708/products_tech_note09186a00803e5282.shtml

 Will that solv my problems ?

 Thanks.

 Y.



 2010/3/22 Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr yous...@720.fr

 Hello all,

 Here is the result :

 BB1.IX1#remote command switch sh bootvar

 BOOT variable = bootdisk:s72033-advipservicesk9_wan-mz.122-33.SXH2a.bin,1;
 CONFIG_FILE variable does not exist
 BOOTLDR variable does not exist
 Configuration register is 0x2100

 Confregs aren't identical ? How do I change this ?

 How come is this possible ?

 Thanks.

 Y.



 2010/3/22 Dale Shaw 
 dale.shaw+cisco-...@gmail.comdale.shaw%2bcisco-...@gmail.com
 

 Hi,

 On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
 yous...@720.fr wrote:
 
  My bootvar / confreg looks correct to me, doesn't it ?

 What does this give you?

 #remote command switch sh bootvar

 cheers,
 Dale




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[c-nsp] per-user static routes getting stuck

2010-03-22 Thread Jon Lewis
I have a 7206vxr running c7200-js-mz.123-23 doing a mix of T1 aggregation 
and PPPoA/PPPoE DSL termination.  Lately, we've been seeing an issue with 
one particular PPPoE DSL user.  They have a static IP and a /30 via 
their RADIUS profile.  When this user disconnects, the per-user static 
route for their subnet isn't getting cleared from the routing table. 
Their static /32 does get cleared.  The only way I've found to clear the 
/30 is to enter the route into the config, and then remove it from the 
config.  With an uptime of 2.5 years, I should probably just upgrade to 
12.3(26) and reboot...but I wonder if anyone else has seen this?


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Re: [c-nsp] c6509 booting in ROMMON

2010-03-22 Thread William McCall
The explanation I got from Cisco was that this is working as designed.
During the failure, it is supposed to 0x0 to prevent a loop. I said
bs but they stuck by it *shrug*.

--WM

On 3/22/10, Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr yous...@720.fr wrote:
 Hello all,

 Solved it, that did the trick.

 Question is : how could that happen ?

 I'd better check that my production chassis are ok :-)

 Thanks.

 Y.



 2010/3/22 Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr yous...@720.fr

 Hey,

 Googled it, found this :


 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps708/products_tech_note09186a00803e5282.shtml

 Will that solv my problems ?

 Thanks.

 Y.



 2010/3/22 Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr yous...@720.fr

 Hello all,

 Here is the result :

 BB1.IX1#remote command switch sh bootvar

 BOOT variable =
 bootdisk:s72033-advipservicesk9_wan-mz.122-33.SXH2a.bin,1;
 CONFIG_FILE variable does not exist
 BOOTLDR variable does not exist
 Configuration register is 0x2100

 Confregs aren't identical ? How do I change this ?

 How come is this possible ?

 Thanks.

 Y.



 2010/3/22 Dale Shaw
 dale.shaw+cisco-...@gmail.comdale.shaw%2bcisco-...@gmail.com
 

 Hi,

 On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
 yous...@720.fr wrote:
 
  My bootvar / confreg looks correct to me, doesn't it ?

 What does this give you?

 #remote command switch sh bootvar

 cheers,
 Dale




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Re: [c-nsp] c6509 booting in ROMMON

2010-03-22 Thread Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
Once again, unbelievable !

Thanks a lot M. Cisco for making my nights easier !

Y.



2010/3/22 William McCall william.mcc...@gmail.com

 The explanation I got from Cisco was that this is working as designed.
 During the failure, it is supposed to 0x0 to prevent a loop. I said
 bs but they stuck by it *shrug*.

 --WM

 On 3/22/10, Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr yous...@720.fr wrote:
  Hello all,
 
  Solved it, that did the trick.
 
  Question is : how could that happen ?
 
  I'd better check that my production chassis are ok :-)
 
  Thanks.
 
  Y.
 
 
 
  2010/3/22 Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr yous...@720.fr
 
  Hey,
 
  Googled it, found this :
 
 
 
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps708/products_tech_note09186a00803e5282.shtml
 
  Will that solv my problems ?
 
  Thanks.
 
  Y.
 
 
 
  2010/3/22 Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr yous...@720.fr
 
  Hello all,
 
  Here is the result :
 
  BB1.IX1#remote command switch sh bootvar
 
  BOOT variable =
  bootdisk:s72033-advipservicesk9_wan-mz.122-33.SXH2a.bin,1;
  CONFIG_FILE variable does not exist
  BOOTLDR variable does not exist
  Configuration register is 0x2100
 
  Confregs aren't identical ? How do I change this ?
 
  How come is this possible ?
 
  Thanks.
 
  Y.
 
 
 
  2010/3/22 Dale Shaw
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 dale.shaw%2bcisco-...@gmail.com dale.shaw%252bcisco-...@gmail.com
  
 
  Hi,
 
  On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
  yous...@720.fr wrote:
  
   My bootvar / confreg looks correct to me, doesn't it ?
 
  What does this give you?
 
  #remote command switch sh bootvar
 
  cheers,
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Re: [c-nsp] per-user static routes getting stuck

2010-03-22 Thread Anton Kapela

On Mar 22, 2010, at 10:01 AM, Jon Lewis wrote:

 to clear the /30 is to enter the route into the config, and then remove it 
 from the config.  With an uptime of 2.5 years, I should probably just upgrade 
 to 12.3(26) and reboot...but I wonder if anyone else has seen this?

I've had precisely the same problem on 12.3(23), didn't try (26).  I moved 
several customers off mainline and onto 12.2SB, but then quickly went to 12.4t, 
on account of (20) having the 'same' cef guts that SB was blessed with (and 20k 
idb's on 7200).  Interestingly, year+ uptime on 12.4(20)T in the same places 
has not resulted in stuck fib entries, no missing fib entries, and aaa/radius 
hasn't missed a beat. 

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Re: [c-nsp] IPv6: Getting started

2010-03-22 Thread Per Carlson
Hi Peter.

 Q: We almost only use 6500/Sup720 (12.2(33)SXI) and 3560/3750
 (12.2(5n)SEn). According to Cisco's IPv6 technology white paper
 we should be okay. Are all relevant management stuff IPv6-ready? TACACS
 +, NetFlow (C6k FTW!), SSH, syslog, SNMPv3 et cetera.

There were a severe bug (CSCir01027) affecting SNMP over IPv6 across a
large number of IOS-trains. The fix should be in SXI, but no
mentioning of 3560/3750 software.

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Re: [c-nsp] NPE-G1 / G2 performance

2010-03-22 Thread Rodney Dunn

ASR1k is the place to look/be for this area.

Rodney



On 3/19/10 9:35 PM, Lee wrote:

We had a solution involving NAT on some 6500s - it didn't take long
for them to run out of memory  reboot.  Cisco eventually said there
was a limitation of ~57K NAT translations on the PFC3B.   We added a
ip nat translation max-entries 5
to the configs and asked our security office to pretty please NOT do
any more Nessus scansthere.  That fixed the rebooting issue, but I
think we're back to not doing NAT on any 6500s now.

Regards,
Lee


On 3/19/10, Jeff Baconba...@walleyesoftware.com  wrote:

I'm looking for something that can:

(1) handle about 100mbit (microbursting to gig) of mcast, taking it in
interface A and pushing it out interfaces B and C, and maybe D
(2) sustain 500-800mbit of throughput (assume 100-byte packets,
occasional gig burst) coming in interface B and going out C, just
straight routing
(3) NAT a few TCP streams coming in interface C and going out interface
A, none of which are anything big-shakes (meg or two of throughput)

This is going to be the backup box; the primary is going to be a
cat6500/sup720. I'm trying to avoid buying a second cat6500.

I'm guessing this is beyond what an NPE-G1 can handle. How about a G2?

If I have to buy an ASR, I'll just buy the 6500; I have a pile of 6500s
and no ASRs.



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Re: [c-nsp] Odd problem with bgp resets on SRD3

2010-03-22 Thread Anrey Teslenko
 Thank you for answer,
This bug details  is very similar to our problem.

We will try to apply this workaround
  If this helps us we will write about it


2010/3/22 Paolo Lucente pl+l...@pmacct.net pl%2bl...@pmacct.net

 Perhaps it's CSCtd26215. If BGP dampening is enabled, give a try disabling
 it.

 Cheers,
 Paolo

 On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 01:02:59PM +0200, teslenko.and...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hello all,
 
  We have faced the same problem when we have tried to update to version
  SRD4.
  Our hardware is  Cisco 7600 with RSP720-3CXL-GE with 2GB RAM and
  WS-X6704-10GE.
  We have observed the bgp notification in logging such as neighbor
  1xx.x.x.x 3/1 (update malformed).
  The all sessions get down after that with message Down No memory
 
  Who was faced with such problem also? How to solve it?
 
  We had the following errors log occur:
 
  %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 1xx.x.x.x Down BGP Notification sent
  %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: sent to neighbor 1xx.x.x.x 3/1 (update malformed) 0
  bytes
  %BGP-4-MSGDUMP: unsupported or mal-formatted message received from
  1xx.x.x.x:         004F 0200  3440
  0101 0040 0208 0203 00AE 04D7 8F11 4003 0495 068D A980 0404 0001 4C26
  4006 00C0 0706 8F11  D018 1489 C008 0800 AE52 0800 AE55 FD18 C029 A2
  %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 10.x.x.x vpn vrf XX Down No memory
  %BGP_SESSION-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 10.x.x.x IPv4 Unicast vpn vrf IT
  topology  base removed from session  No memory
  %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 6x.x.x.x Down No memory
  %BGP_SESSION-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 6x.x.x.x IPv4 Unicast topology base
  removed  from session  No memory ...
 
 
 
  Mack McBride ??:
   I am looking at 2 - 7600s with RSP720-3CXLs w/ 4GB of RAM and 6708-3CXL
 cards running SRD3.
   These are not currently production equipment but are connected to
 upstreams
   as well as route-reflectors but are not advertising routes as we have
 advertisements blocked
   with a deny-all prefix list.  We THINK the dumped BGP packet is
 correctly formatted and
   the packet dumped is actually the packet before the bad packet.  Has
 anyone else
   seen similar issues?  Does anyone else know if this is a known bug that
 exists in this code or
   early versions of the SRD train?  I know there are entirely too many
 caveats in SRC5.
  
   Mack McBride
   Network Architect
   ViaWest, Inc.
  
   We had the following errors occur:
  
   Log from 7600-01:
   Nov 24 02:41:59.696 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 207.xx.xx.xx Down
 BGP Notification sent
   Nov 24 02:41:59.696 MST: %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: sent to neighbor
 207.xx.xx.xx 3/1 (update malformed) 0 bytes
   Nov 24 02:41:59.696 MST: %BGP-4-MSGDUMP: unsupported or mal-formatted
 message received from 207.xx.xx.xx:
           0064 0200  4940 0101 0040
 0208 0203
   10E3 00AE 0865 4003 04CF FA73 1540 0600 C007 0608 659A 3604 36C0 0824
 10E3 0033
   10E3 01F5 10E3 03F7 10E3 09C7 10E3 C350 FE4D 03F7 FE4E 0004 FE4F 0001
 FE50 012D
   18C0 2104
   Nov 24 02:41:59.748 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 74.xx.xx.xx1 Down
 No memory
   Nov 24 02:41:59.748 MST: %BGP_SESSION-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor
 74.xx.xx.xx1 IPv4 Unicast topology base removed from session  No memory
   Nov 24 02:41:59.748 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 74.xx.xx.xx2 Down
 No memory
   Nov 24 02:41:59.748 MST: %BGP_SESSION-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor
 74.xx.xx.xx2 IPv4 Unicast topology base removed from session  No memory
   Nov 24 02:41:59.748 MST: %BGP_SESSION-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor
 207.xx.xx.xx IPv4 Unicast topology base removed from session  BGP
 Notification sent
   Nov 24 02:42:06.384 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 207.xx.xx.xx Up
   Nov 24 02:42:12.640 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 74.xx.xx.xx2 Up
   Nov 24 02:42:12.672 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 74.xx.xx.xx1 Up
   Nov 24 02:42:31.436 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 207.xx.xx.xx Down
 BGP Notification sent
   Nov 24 02:42:31.436 MST: %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: sent to neighbor
 207.xx.xx.xx 3/1 (update malformed) 0 bytes
   Nov 24 02:42:31.440 MST: %BGP-4-MSGDUMP: unsupported or mal-formatted
 message received from 207.xx.xx.xx:
           0064 0200  4940 0101 0040
 0208 0203
   10E3 00AE 0865 4003 04CF FA73 1540 0600 C007 0608 659A 3604 42C0 0824
 10E3 0033
   10E3 01F5 10E3 03F7 10E3 09C7 10E3 C350 FE4D 03F7 FE4E 0004 FE4F 0001
 FE50 012D
   18C0 2104
   Nov 24 02:42:31.504 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 74.xx.xx.xx1 Down
 No memory
   Nov 24 02:42:31.504 MST: %BGP_SESSION-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor
 74.xx.xx.xx1 IPv4 Unicast topology base removed from session  No memory
   Nov 24 02:42:31.504 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 74.xx.xx.xx2 Down
 No memory
   Nov 24 02:42:31.504 MST: %BGP_SESSION-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor
 74.xx.xx.xx2 IPv4 Unicast topology base removed from session  No memory
   Nov 24 02:42:31.504 MST: %BGP_SESSION-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor
 207.xx.xx.xx IPv4 Unicast topology base removed from session  BGP
 Notification sent
   Nov 24 

Re: [c-nsp] strange ipv6 problems on 3550 SVI

2010-03-22 Thread Tóth András
Hi.

According to my tests, IPv6 is somewhat supported on the 3550 with
12.2(44)SE1 and SE2, however only in software. The switch can send out
IPv6 packets (that's why you are seeing EIGRP adjacency established
for a short time) but cannot receive any (that's why EIGRP adjacency
is flapping), which means it drops inbound IPv6 packets sent to the
switch itself because the hardware seemingly cannot understand them. I
also checked this behavior with Wireshark.

debug ipv6 packet

Mar 22 15:38:43: IPV6: source 2001:::::2 (local)
Mar 22 15:38:43:   dest FF02::1:FF00:2 (Vlan2)
Mar 22 15:38:43:   traffic class 224, flow 0x0, len 72+8, prot 58,
hops 255, originating
Mar 22 15:38:43: IPv6: Sending on Vlan2


The interesting part is that IPv6 tunneling (GRE mode, because ipv6ip
mode cannot be selected) is working on the 3550 with the above IOS
versions. Enable ipv6 unicast-routing and create a tunnel interface,
assign an IPv6 address to it and set an IPv6 capable router's IPv4
address as the tunnel destination. It will work because the switch
will receive IPv4 packets and the IPv6 packets encapsulated into them
are processed by the CPU.

ipv6 unicast-routing

interface Tunnel6
 no ip address
 ipv6 address 2001::::6::2/112
 ipv6 enable
 tunnel source 192.168.1.5
 tunnel destination 192.168.1.7
end

ipv6 route ::/0 2001::::6::1


c3550#ping 2001:::::1

Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 2001:::::1, timeout is 2 seconds:
!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 4/4/4 ms


Best regards,
Andras


On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Matthew Huff mh...@ox.com wrote:
 Bingo!

 Yes, I agree, it's worse. I knew the 3550 only did ipv6 in software, but this 
 was going to be a low packet count test. Something things seem to work, but 
 not really.

 Oh well, that division budgets won't be available to upgrade that switch 
 until after Sept 2011, so it will have to wait.

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Re: [c-nsp] per-user static routes getting stuck

2010-03-22 Thread Jon Lewis

On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, Jess Kitchen wrote:

I've had precisely the same problem on 12.3(23), didn't try (26).  I moved 
several customers off mainline and onto 12.2SB, but then quickly went to 
12.4t, on account of (20) having the 'same' cef guts that SB was blessed 
with (and 20k idb's on 7200).  Interestingly, year+ uptime on 12.4(20)T in 
the same places has not resulted in stuck fib entries, no missing fib 
entries, and aaa/radius hasn't missed a beat.


curious whether theres any difference if you're using Framed-Route as opposed 
to ip:route .. in a Cisco-AVPair attribute?  bizarre behaviour in any case


The one in my case is a Framed-Route.  I haven't tried the other way.

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Re: [c-nsp] per-user static routes getting stuck

2010-03-22 Thread Jess Kitchen

On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, Anton Kapela wrote:

to clear the /30 is to enter the route into the config, and then remove 
it from the config.  With an uptime of 2.5 years, I should probably 
just upgrade to 12.3(26) and reboot...but I wonder if anyone else has 
seen this?


I've had precisely the same problem on 12.3(23), didn't try (26).  I 
moved several customers off mainline and onto 12.2SB, but then quickly 
went to 12.4t, on account of (20) having the 'same' cef guts that SB was 
blessed with (and 20k idb's on 7200).  Interestingly, year+ uptime on 
12.4(20)T in the same places has not resulted in stuck fib entries, no 
missing fib entries, and aaa/radius hasn't missed a beat.


curious whether theres any difference if you're using Framed-Route as 
opposed to ip:route .. in a Cisco-AVPair attribute?  bizarre behaviour in 
any case

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Re: [c-nsp] Odd problem with bgp resets on SRD3

2010-03-22 Thread Jan Sandmaier

this is definitely this bug. Disabling solves the problem

Regards,
Jan

Paolo Lucente schrieb:

Perhaps it's CSCtd26215. If BGP dampening is enabled, give a try disabling
it. 


Cheers,
Paolo

On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 01:02:59PM +0200, teslenko.and...@gmail.com wrote:
  

Hello all,

We have faced the same problem when we have tried to update to version
SRD4.
Our hardware is  Cisco 7600 with RSP720-3CXL-GE with 2GB RAM and
WS-X6704-10GE.
We have observed the bgp notification in logging such as neighbor
1xx.x.x.x 3/1 (update malformed).
The all sessions get down after that with message Down No memory

Who was faced with such problem also? How to solve it?

We had the following errors log occur:

%BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 1xx.x.x.x Down BGP Notification sent
%BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: sent to neighbor 1xx.x.x.x 3/1 (update malformed) 0
bytes
%BGP-4-MSGDUMP: unsupported or mal-formatted message received from
1xx.x.x.x:         004F 0200  3440
0101 0040 0208 0203 00AE 04D7 8F11 4003 0495 068D A980 0404 0001 4C26
4006 00C0 0706 8F11  D018 1489 C008 0800 AE52 0800 AE55 FD18 C029 A2
%BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 10.x.x.x vpn vrf XX Down No memory
%BGP_SESSION-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 10.x.x.x IPv4 Unicast vpn vrf IT
topology  base removed from session  No memory
%BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 6x.x.x.x Down No memory
%BGP_SESSION-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 6x.x.x.x IPv4 Unicast topology base
removed  from session  No memory ...



Mack McBride ??:


I am looking at 2 - 7600s with RSP720-3CXLs w/ 4GB of RAM and 6708-3CXL cards 
running SRD3.
These are not currently production equipment but are connected to upstreams
as well as route-reflectors but are not advertising routes as we have 
advertisements blocked
with a deny-all prefix list.  We THINK the dumped BGP packet is correctly 
formatted and
the packet dumped is actually the packet before the bad packet.  Has anyone else
seen similar issues?  Does anyone else know if this is a known bug that exists 
in this code or
early versions of the SRD train?  I know there are entirely too many caveats in 
SRC5.

Mack McBride
Network Architect
ViaWest, Inc.

We had the following errors occur:

Log from 7600-01:
Nov 24 02:41:59.696 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 207.xx.xx.xx Down BGP 
Notification sent
Nov 24 02:41:59.696 MST: %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: sent to neighbor 207.xx.xx.xx 3/1 
(update malformed) 0 bytes
Nov 24 02:41:59.696 MST: %BGP-4-MSGDUMP: unsupported or mal-formatted message 
received from 207.xx.xx.xx:
        0064 0200  4940 0101 0040 0208 0203
10E3 00AE 0865 4003 04CF FA73 1540 0600 C007 0608 659A 3604 36C0 0824 10E3 0033
10E3 01F5 10E3 03F7 10E3 09C7 10E3 C350 FE4D 03F7 FE4E 0004 FE4F 0001 FE50 012D
18C0 2104
Nov 24 02:41:59.748 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 74.xx.xx.xx1 Down No memory
Nov 24 02:41:59.748 MST: %BGP_SESSION-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 74.xx.xx.xx1 IPv4 
Unicast topology base removed from session  No memory
Nov 24 02:41:59.748 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 74.xx.xx.xx2 Down No memory
Nov 24 02:41:59.748 MST: %BGP_SESSION-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 74.xx.xx.xx2 IPv4 
Unicast topology base removed from session  No memory
Nov 24 02:41:59.748 MST: %BGP_SESSION-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 207.xx.xx.xx IPv4 
Unicast topology base removed from session  BGP Notification sent
Nov 24 02:42:06.384 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 207.xx.xx.xx Up
Nov 24 02:42:12.640 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 74.xx.xx.xx2 Up
Nov 24 02:42:12.672 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 74.xx.xx.xx1 Up
Nov 24 02:42:31.436 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 207.xx.xx.xx Down BGP 
Notification sent
Nov 24 02:42:31.436 MST: %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: sent to neighbor 207.xx.xx.xx 3/1 
(update malformed) 0 bytes
Nov 24 02:42:31.440 MST: %BGP-4-MSGDUMP: unsupported or mal-formatted message 
received from 207.xx.xx.xx:
        0064 0200  4940 0101 0040 0208 0203
10E3 00AE 0865 4003 04CF FA73 1540 0600 C007 0608 659A 3604 42C0 0824 10E3 0033
10E3 01F5 10E3 03F7 10E3 09C7 10E3 C350 FE4D 03F7 FE4E 0004 FE4F 0001 FE50 012D
18C0 2104
Nov 24 02:42:31.504 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 74.xx.xx.xx1 Down No memory
Nov 24 02:42:31.504 MST: %BGP_SESSION-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 74.xx.xx.xx1 IPv4 
Unicast topology base removed from session  No memory
Nov 24 02:42:31.504 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 74.xx.xx.xx2 Down No memory
Nov 24 02:42:31.504 MST: %BGP_SESSION-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 74.xx.xx.xx2 IPv4 
Unicast topology base removed from session  No memory
Nov 24 02:42:31.504 MST: %BGP_SESSION-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 207.xx.xx.xx IPv4 
Unicast topology base removed from session  BGP Notification sent
Nov 24 02:42:38.620 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 74.xx.xx.xx2 Up
Nov 24 02:42:38.620 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 207.xx.xx.xx Up
Nov 24 02:42:42.928 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 74.xx.xx.xx1 Up

7600-02:
Nov 24 02:42:16.343 MST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 4.xx.xx.xx Down BGP 
Notification sent
Nov 24 02:42:16.343 

[c-nsp] ASR 1002-F BGP table size

2010-03-22 Thread Rick Ernst
I'm having a hard (impossible) time locating performance and BGP specs for
the ASR 1002-F.  Since it has a not really an ESP built-in, the ESP5/10/20
specs aren't helping me a lot.  Other than it should have ~2.5Gbs forwarding
(full-duplex?), I'can't find anything definitive on it.  References keep
coming up with the ASR-1002 with the removable ESP.

I'm looking at replacing our upstream routers (7206-VXR/G1) on GigE links
with something that can better handle D/DoS attacks.  The original thought
was to use a small 6500/Sup720.  Empirical testing shows that Netflow (even
with the table size under control) really beats up on the SP CPU.  The
ASR-1002F seems like it should fit the bill, but I found something (that
I've now lost) that mentioned 500K routes.

I'm looking for a device that:
  - is a lightbulb; relatively inexpensive, single-upstream
  -  3 GigE ports
  - 1 Gbs full-duplex (2Gbs total) hardware forwarding
  - uRPF
  - Netflow
  - 1,000,000+ IPv4 BGP routes
  - IPv6 support

As an additional comment on the Sup720/Netflow, CPU on the SP hit ~30% with
only a couple hundred Mbs and roughly 50% TCAM utilization.

Is the ASR-1002F what I'm looking for? Can anybody direct me to 1002F (vs
modular 1002) specs?

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[c-nsp] Sup720 CoPP, limits on CPU performance

2010-03-22 Thread Peter Rathlev
Hi all,

We recently had an experience that has convinced us CoPP might be a good
idea. I know it's a little embarrassing that we haven't implemented CoPP
yet, but now we're motivated. :-)

We're graphing non-unicast packets in/out with Cacti and expect to work
out a baseline from those numbers.

As another viewpoint I'd like to know how I can assess what amount of
traffic I can safely send to the Sup720 CPU. Would anyone have any
numbers for that, i.e. how much broadcast I can safely allow in a CoPP
policy if I were to not look at that baseline at all?

(P.S: No, this network isn't Internet reachable, the experience was from
an internal loop, the cause of which is being mitigated in other ways
too.)

-- 
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Re: [c-nsp] IPv6: Getting started

2010-03-22 Thread Peter Rathlev
On Mon, 2010-03-22 at 14:38 +0300, Tima Maryin wrote:
 Why don't keep it ipv4?
 If you run MPLS VPN netowork i don't see why you want something else
 in core. MPLS don't care about ipv4/6 and PE just assign labels for
 prefix/vpn and distribute it to other PEs.
 
 For me it looks like double security here, if your core has no ipv6 i
 can't be accessed (read: hacked) from outside ipv6 world/vpns.

It's no practical problem at all to keep the core IPv4. I was just
curious about why a pure IPv6 MPLS network wasn't possible (yet, on
Cisco boxen).

That leads me to another thing: If we _could_ make the core run IPv6,
and if we weren't using no mpls ip propagate-ttl, how would a
traceroute from an IPv4-only machine work out? Would the core send
ICMPv6 Time Exceeded back to the host, which would then just discard
these unintelligible packets and show *s for that hop?

-- 
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[c-nsp] BLSR protection on long-haul OC-192 links

2010-03-22 Thread Bit Bucket
I'm putting together a regional four-node SONET network that will have two
long-haul OC-192 fiber links. To provide path diversity, one leg will be
about 450 miles longer than the other. Termination gear will be Cisco
ONS-15454s and we will be running GigE circuits (protected) across the
links. My concern is that with one leg being more than twice the length of
the other, will BLSR still maintain a hitless transition in the event that
one of the OC-192s fails?

I asked Cisco this question and we went through several techs before it was
escalated to their developers, who labbed it out and said it would work.
This is a little disconcerting, since I seriously doubt I am the first to
ask this question. Is there anyone out there who has done this and could
could share their experience with this type of design?


Thanks -
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Re: [c-nsp] Sup720 CoPP, limits on CPU performance

2010-03-22 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2010-03-22 19:05 +0100), Peter Rathlev wrote:

 As another viewpoint I'd like to know how I can assess what amount of
 traffic I can safely send to the Sup720 CPU. Would anyone have any
 numbers for that, i.e. how much broadcast I can safely allow in a CoPP
 policy if I were to not look at that baseline at all?

SUP720-3BXL had issues to manage 5Mbps of SYN/BGP and generally 10Mbps of
minimum size frames (about 20kpps) is what I could manage in 2006 with SRA
without affecting IS-IS or LDP.

I'd recommend very generic and simple CoPP

1) allow trusted sources, MGMT, core links, core loops
2) allow important untrusted SYN, eBGP neighbours
3) allow important untrusted, eBGP !SYN
4) allow unimportant icmp, udp traceroute, hsrp, vrrp, dns, ntp, dhcp, multicast
5) drop all remaining IP

Unfortunately policing is for bps not pps. Also documentation is bit flaky,
but IPv6 is supported (enable compression) and ARP is not supported.
Also amount of MLS rate-limiters should be bit higher.

Prior to deploying CoPP we very often used telnet from PE to customer mail
server and such for troubleshooting, unfortunately with CoPP it's not very
easy. It would be nice if IOS telnet would accept source port, so you could
allow some low bps back to that port from every address.  To workaround
with this, on top of CoPP list we have CoPP-DENY and CoPP-PERMIT box
specific hack ACL's where we can add ad'hoc entries.

-- 
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Re: [c-nsp] Sup720 CoPP, limits on CPU performance

2010-03-22 Thread Mack McBride
Dropping all remaining IP leads to some odd behavior since traffic not destined 
for the router can get process switched, that traffic would get dropped.  It is 
better to drop unsolicited traffic aimed at router interface ips. And rate 
limit the remaining traffic to some reasonable level to allow process switched 
traffic to get through.

LR Mack McBride
Network Architect
Viawest Inc.

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Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 1:21 PM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Sup720 CoPP, limits on CPU performance

On (2010-03-22 19:05 +0100), Peter Rathlev wrote:

 As another viewpoint I'd like to know how I can assess what amount of
 traffic I can safely send to the Sup720 CPU. Would anyone have any
 numbers for that, i.e. how much broadcast I can safely allow in a CoPP
 policy if I were to not look at that baseline at all?

SUP720-3BXL had issues to manage 5Mbps of SYN/BGP and generally 10Mbps of
minimum size frames (about 20kpps) is what I could manage in 2006 with SRA
without affecting IS-IS or LDP.

I'd recommend very generic and simple CoPP

1) allow trusted sources, MGMT, core links, core loops
2) allow important untrusted SYN, eBGP neighbours
3) allow important untrusted, eBGP !SYN
4) allow unimportant icmp, udp traceroute, hsrp, vrrp, dns, ntp, dhcp, multicast
5) drop all remaining IP

Unfortunately policing is for bps not pps. Also documentation is bit flaky,
but IPv6 is supported (enable compression) and ARP is not supported.
Also amount of MLS rate-limiters should be bit higher.

Prior to deploying CoPP we very often used telnet from PE to customer mail
server and such for troubleshooting, unfortunately with CoPP it's not very
easy. It would be nice if IOS telnet would accept source port, so you could
allow some low bps back to that port from every address.  To workaround
with this, on top of CoPP list we have CoPP-DENY and CoPP-PERMIT box
specific hack ACL's where we can add ad'hoc entries.

-- 
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[c-nsp] [in/ex]clude CE vlans with QinQ

2010-03-22 Thread Christopher Hunt
I'm searching for a way to optionally include/exclude certain VLANs for 
a QinQ link.  I have a vlan trunk coming from a distribution switch into 
a core switch which is attached to a L2 Service Provider.  I'd like to 
encapsulate multiple (some but not all) Customer (CE) Vlans from the 
distribution switch into QinQ vlans SP vlan.  For example, I'd like to 
encapsulated CE vlans 10-20 into SP vlan 100, and  CE vlans 21-30 from 
the distribution switch into SP vlan 200, etc.  Other than creating 
multiple trunks from the distro switch to the core, are there any other 
suggestions?


Thanks,
Chris
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Re: [c-nsp] Sup720 CoPP, limits on CPU performance

2010-03-22 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2010-03-22 12:45 -0700), Mack McBride wrote:

 Dropping all remaining IP leads to some odd behavior since traffic not 
 destined for the router can get process switched, that traffic would get 
 dropped.  It is better to drop unsolicited traffic aimed at router interface 
 ips. And rate limit the remaining traffic to some reasonable level to allow 
 process switched traffic to get through.

Such traffic could be e.g. uRPF ACL, or ACL permit entry with log, neither
which I do. Also IP options naturally are process switched, which I police
to 10pps.
Generally prerequisite for control plane policing is understanding
explicitly what the box is doing. If you need to generally forward
something in software in 7600, you are likely using wrong box. 

If you don't know for sure what needs to be allowed, only thing you're
doing is putting bad and good traffic in same queue, making box drop the
good traffic earlier than it would do without CoPP.

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Re: [c-nsp] [in/ex]clude CE vlans with QinQ

2010-03-22 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
Get a device that supports selective QinQ/vlan mapping/etc (ME-3400, 
ME-3750, 7600/CWAN cards, etc).


--
Tassos


Christopher Hunt wrote on 22/03/2010 21:54:
I'm searching for a way to optionally include/exclude certain VLANs 
for a QinQ link.  I have a vlan trunk coming from a distribution 
switch into a core switch which is attached to a L2 Service Provider.  
I'd like to encapsulate multiple (some but not all) Customer (CE) 
Vlans from the distribution switch into QinQ vlans SP vlan.  For 
example, I'd like to encapsulated CE vlans 10-20 into SP vlan 100, 
and  CE vlans 21-30 from the distribution switch into SP vlan 200, 
etc.  Other than creating multiple trunks from the distro switch to 
the core, are there any other suggestions?


Thanks,
Chris
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Re: [c-nsp] Sup720 CoPP, limits on CPU performance

2010-03-22 Thread Phil Mayers

On 03/22/2010 07:21 PM, Saku Ytti wrote:

On (2010-03-22 19:05 +0100), Peter Rathlev wrote:


As another viewpoint I'd like to know how I can assess what amount of
traffic I can safely send to the Sup720 CPU. Would anyone have any
numbers for that, i.e. how much broadcast I can safely allow in a CoPP
policy if I were to not look at that baseline at all?


SUP720-3BXL had issues to manage 5Mbps of SYN/BGP and generally 10Mbps of
minimum size frames (about 20kpps) is what I could manage in 2006 with SRA
without affecting IS-IS or LDP.

I'd recommend very generic and simple CoPP

1) allow trusted sources, MGMT, core links, core loops
2) allow important untrusted SYN, eBGP neighbours
3) allow important untrusted, eBGP !SYN
4) allow unimportant icmp, udp traceroute, hsrp, vrrp, dns, ntp, dhcp, multicast
5) drop all remaining IP


In general this is a reasonable starting point, but the OP should be 
aware that traffic which is not destined to the box, most notably 
packets punted to CPU for arp lookup (glean) have CoPP applied, so a 
deny on any particular class of traffic will mean packets matching the 
ACL can never trigger a glean lookup.


Whether this is important or not will depend on your traffic patterns; 
it makes default-denying SSH if you have unix boxes tricky, for example.

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Re: [c-nsp] BLSR protection on long-haul OC-192 links

2010-03-22 Thread Andrew Gallo
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On 3/22/2010 2:54 PM, Bit Bucket wrote:
 I'm putting together a regional four-node SONET network that will have two
 long-haul OC-192 fiber links. To provide path diversity, one leg will be
 about 450 miles longer than the other. Termination gear will be Cisco
 ONS-15454s and we will be running GigE circuits (protected) across the
 links. My concern is that with one leg being more than twice the length of
 the other, will BLSR still maintain a hitless transition in the event that
 one of the OC-192s fails?
 
 I asked Cisco this question and we went through several techs before it was
 escalated to their developers, who labbed it out and said it would work.
 This is a little disconcerting, since I seriously doubt I am the first to
 ask this question. Is there anyone out there who has done this and could
 could share their experience with this type of design?
 
 
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Stab in the dark here if we assume that latency is caused purely by
photonic delay, at 725Km, the one-way latency would be about 3.45msec,
well within SONET's targetted 50msec switch window.

My calculations:

725Km/.7c = 3.45msec

Or am I way off?  Interesting problem.  Let us know how it goes.


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Re: [c-nsp] 6500 nvram contents changing

2010-03-22 Thread john heasley
Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 09:27:35AM +, Ben Cooper:
 John,
 
 It looks like Jared was correct, we had another instance of rancid
 running on another box a roughly the same time, I shifted the the cron
 job forward 30 minutes, and the diffs have stopped.

i can't reproduce it.  if anyone knows the error that the cli displays
when this contention occurs, please e-mail the info to me so that i can
fix rancid to deal with it.
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Re: [c-nsp] Sup720 CoPP, limits on CPU performance

2010-03-22 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2010-03-22 20:49 +), Phil Mayers wrote:

 In general this is a reasonable starting point, but the OP should be
 aware that traffic which is not destined to the box, most notably
 packets punted to CPU for arp lookup (glean) have CoPP applied, so a
 deny on any particular class of traffic will mean packets matching the
 ACL can never trigger a glean lookup.
 
 Whether this is important or not will depend on your traffic patterns;
 it makes default-denying SSH if you have unix boxes tricky, for example.
 
 I should add that certain traffic patterns exacerbate this; for
 example we came across it in HSRP setups where inbound traffic comes
 in via the HSRP slave, and only the master had a current ARP entry.

Only possible explanation I can think of this is that you've been running
deny in 'class-default', defining 'class-default' is not good idea, but
explicitly having class to match all IP via ACL and drop packets in that
class.
Class-default in software likely will see ARP as you explain, but that is
not even the biggest problem, using class-default will eat MPLS label
lookup from superman (as it'll also match MPLS labeled packets), causing
recirculation for your L3 MPLS VPN customers.

Also people who run IS-IS would be rather sad if class-default would be
configured to drop everything.
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Re: [c-nsp] Sup720 CoPP, limits on CPU performance

2010-03-22 Thread Jimmy Changa
Can any provide links to good documentation? I've read through the cisco
docs, but I'm interested in reading about other folks implementations.

Jimmy Changa via Droid

On Mar 22, 2010 4:52 PM, Phil Mayers p.may...@imperial.ac.uk wrote:

On 03/22/2010 07:21 PM, Saku Ytti wrote:

 On (2010-03-22 19:05 +0100), Peter Rathlev wrote:

 ...
In general this is a reasonable starting point, but the OP should be aware
that traffic which is not destined to the box, most notably packets punted
to CPU for arp lookup (glean) have CoPP applied, so a deny on any particular
class of traffic will mean packets matching the ACL can never trigger a
glean lookup.

Whether this is important or not will depend on your traffic patterns; it
makes default-denying SSH if you have unix boxes tricky, for example.


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Re: [c-nsp] ASR 1002-F BGP table size

2010-03-22 Thread Mounir Mohamed Ali
Hi Rick,

Here is a quick comparison.

The Cisco ASR 1002-F has RP1 with 1G RAM, ESP 2.5 with 1G RAM (2.5Gbps
bandwidth), SIP-10, 1SPA, and 4 GE ports  built in chassis, running IOS-XE
and has SW redundancy via VM, capcable to have 500K IPv4 and 125K Ipv6

The Cisco ASR1002 has 1 RP1 integrated in the chassis comes with 4GB RAM by
default, 1 ESP slot for ESP5/10 to provide 5Gbps/10Gbps bandwidth, it also
has 4-built in GE-ports, 3 SPA ports, running IOS XE and has SW redundancy
via VM.

On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Rick Ernst c...@shreddedmail.com wrote:

 I'm having a hard (impossible) time locating performance and BGP specs for
 the ASR 1002-F.  Since it has a not really an ESP built-in, the
 ESP5/10/20
 specs aren't helping me a lot.  Other than it should have ~2.5Gbs
 forwarding
 (full-duplex?), I'can't find anything definitive on it.  References keep
 coming up with the ASR-1002 with the removable ESP.

 I'm looking at replacing our upstream routers (7206-VXR/G1) on GigE links
 with something that can better handle D/DoS attacks.  The original thought
 was to use a small 6500/Sup720.  Empirical testing shows that Netflow (even
 with the table size under control) really beats up on the SP CPU.  The
 ASR-1002F seems like it should fit the bill, but I found something (that
 I've now lost) that mentioned 500K routes.

 I'm looking for a device that:
  - is a lightbulb; relatively inexpensive, single-upstream
  -  3 GigE ports
  - 1 Gbs full-duplex (2Gbs total) hardware forwarding
  - uRPF
  - Netflow
  - 1,000,000+ IPv4 BGP routes
  - IPv6 support

 As an additional comment on the Sup720/Netflow, CPU on the SP hit ~30% with
 only a couple hundred Mbs and roughly 50% TCAM utilization.

 Is the ASR-1002F what I'm looking for? Can anybody direct me to 1002F (vs
 modular 1002) specs?

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Re: [c-nsp] Sup720 CoPP, limits on CPU performance

2010-03-22 Thread Tim Durack
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Saku Ytti s...@ytti.fi wrote:
 On (2010-03-22 20:49 +), Phil Mayers wrote:

 In general this is a reasonable starting point, but the OP should be
 aware that traffic which is not destined to the box, most notably
 packets punted to CPU for arp lookup (glean) have CoPP applied, so a
 deny on any particular class of traffic will mean packets matching the
 ACL can never trigger a glean lookup.
 
 Whether this is important or not will depend on your traffic patterns;
 it makes default-denying SSH if you have unix boxes tricky, for example.

 I should add that certain traffic patterns exacerbate this; for
 example we came across it in HSRP setups where inbound traffic comes
 in via the HSRP slave, and only the master had a current ARP entry.

 Only possible explanation I can think of this is that you've been running
 deny in 'class-default', defining 'class-default' is not good idea, but
 explicitly having class to match all IP via ACL and drop packets in that
 class.
 Class-default in software likely will see ARP as you explain, but that is
 not even the biggest problem, using class-default will eat MPLS label
 lookup from superman (as it'll also match MPLS labeled packets), causing
 recirculation for your L3 MPLS VPN customers.

 Also people who run IS-IS would be rather sad if class-default would be
 configured to drop everything.
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CoPP is quite challenging on the 6500.

We've finally come down to a class per protocol. Some oddities include
bfd not matching acl entries but apparently matching the class and
being policed correctly (is this because bfd runs on the sp?)

Not being able to differntiate receive from glean traffic is a huge
problem. This makes it difficult/impossible to permit approved control
plane traffic, then deny everything else. If you do, glean traffic
won't hit the control plane, causing arp failures. Not fun.

According to N7K docs, this is all fixed in EARL8...

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[c-nsp] Unicast traffic being sent to every port? Aging issue?

2010-03-22 Thread Ray Van Dolson
We have two Dell PowerConnect M6220 switches (A1 and B1).  They are not
cross-connected, but both have uplinks to the same subnet:

  zfs1
 /
   ++
   | A1 |-|
   ++ +---+
  | Cisco |--- linux1
   ++ +---+
   | B1 |-|
   ++
/ \
  esx1 esx2

There's a host hanging off of A1 (zfs1) and several ESX hosts hanging
off of B1 (esx1, esx2, etc).  There's a host linux1 hanging off the
Cisco as well (actually many hosts, but for the sake of description

What's happening is, esx1/2 beging talking to zfs1.  All is well for a
while... but at some point, zfs1's MAC address expires from the CAM on
the switch (I guess that is what is happening).

At that point, the Cisco begins forwarding the unicast packets to all
its ports.  The result -- linux1, and all other hosts see the packets.
Occasionally, when we're dealing with a lot of traffic, this seriously
impacts performance.

My question here is.. what is the _right_ way to deal with this?  This
flooding can continue for many minutes at a time.. it isn't until an
ARP reply eminates from zfs1 that the CAM table is populated again and
the broadcasting stops.

I wonder if zfs1 would send back an ARP response quicker were it not
behind an additional switch (the PowerConnect)... 

Thanks,
Ray
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Re: [c-nsp] Unicast traffic being sent to every port? Aging issue?

2010-03-22 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 3/22/10 7:03 PM, Ray Van Dolson wrote:
 We have two Dell PowerConnect M6220 switches (A1 and B1).  They are not
 cross-connected, but both have uplinks to the same subnet:
 
   zfs1
  /
++
| A1 |-|
++ +---+
   | Cisco |--- linux1
++ +---+
| B1 |-|
++
 / \
   esx1 esx2
 
 There's a host hanging off of A1 (zfs1) and several ESX hosts hanging
 off of B1 (esx1, esx2, etc).  There's a host linux1 hanging off the
 Cisco as well (actually many hosts, but for the sake of description
 
 What's happening is, esx1/2 beging talking to zfs1.  All is well for a
 while... but at some point, zfs1's MAC address expires from the CAM on
 the switch (I guess that is what is happening).
 
 At that point, the Cisco begins forwarding the unicast packets to all
 its ports.  The result -- linux1, and all other hosts see the packets.
 Occasionally, when we're dealing with a lot of traffic, this seriously
 impacts performance.

Is the Cisco a router or a layer 2 switch?  All hosts in the same IP
subnet?  Subnet masks all match?  Nothing doing proxy-arp?

 My question here is.. what is the _right_ way to deal with this?  This
 flooding can continue for many minutes at a time.. it isn't until an
 ARP reply eminates from zfs1 that the CAM table is populated again and
 the broadcasting stops.

If these are layer 2 switches, ARP won't have anything to do with it.

If zfs1's MAC expires from the MAC address table on the cisco, it will
flood the next packet for that MAC.  A1 will forward it to zfs1 or flood
if it too has expired the MAC.

When zfs1 replies, A1 forwards the reply to the cisco.  At that point,
the cisco should re-install the MAC into its address table and the
flooding cease.

This should happen with a single packet.

Does this happen with any other hosts behind A1?  Any interface errors
on any of the devices?

 I wonder if zfs1 would send back an ARP response quicker were it not
 behind an additional switch (the PowerConnect)... 

If layer 2 switches, ARP doesn't have anything to do with it.

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Re: [c-nsp] Unicast traffic being sent to every port? Aging issue?

2010-03-22 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 08:04:10PM -0700, Jay Hennigan wrote:
 On 3/22/10 7:03 PM, Ray Van Dolson wrote:
  We have two Dell PowerConnect M6220 switches (A1 and B1).  They are not
  cross-connected, but both have uplinks to the same subnet:
  
zfs1
   /
 ++
 | A1 |-|
 ++ +---+
| Cisco |--- linux1
 ++ +---+
 | B1 |-|
 ++
  / \
esx1 esx2
  
  There's a host hanging off of A1 (zfs1) and several ESX hosts hanging
  off of B1 (esx1, esx2, etc).  There's a host linux1 hanging off the
  Cisco as well (actually many hosts, but for the sake of description
  
  What's happening is, esx1/2 beging talking to zfs1.  All is well for a
  while... but at some point, zfs1's MAC address expires from the CAM on
  the switch (I guess that is what is happening).
  
  At that point, the Cisco begins forwarding the unicast packets to all
  its ports.  The result -- linux1, and all other hosts see the packets.
  Occasionally, when we're dealing with a lot of traffic, this seriously
  impacts performance.
 
 Is the Cisco a router or a layer 2 switch?  All hosts in the same IP
 subnet?  Subnet masks all match?  Nothing doing proxy-arp?
 
  My question here is.. what is the _right_ way to deal with this?  This
  flooding can continue for many minutes at a time.. it isn't until an
  ARP reply eminates from zfs1 that the CAM table is populated again and
  the broadcasting stops.
 
 If these are layer 2 switches, ARP won't have anything to do with it.
 
 If zfs1's MAC expires from the MAC address table on the cisco, it will
 flood the next packet for that MAC.  A1 will forward it to zfs1 or flood
 if it too has expired the MAC.
 
 When zfs1 replies, A1 forwards the reply to the cisco.  At that point,
 the cisco should re-install the MAC into its address table and the
 flooding cease.
 
 This should happen with a single packet.
 
 Does this happen with any other hosts behind A1?  Any interface errors
 on any of the devices?
 
  I wonder if zfs1 would send back an ARP response quicker were it not
  behind an additional switch (the PowerConnect)... 
 
 If layer 2 switches, ARP doesn't have anything to do with it.

I'll have to find out how the Cisco's are configured.  I wouldn't be
surprised if they're doing some Layer 3 though as I know some VLAN
routing is going on...

The Dell switches both seem to have Routing Mode enabled as well (but
proxy arp disabled).

There currently aren't any other hosts behind A1, but that would be a
good test.  No interface errors currently.

Firmware is old on A1, so at this point I'm a little suspicious it's to
blame.

Just wanted to try and wrap my head around this first.

Thanks,
Ray
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Re: [c-nsp] Unicast traffic being sent to every port? Aging issue?

2010-03-22 Thread Jay Nakamura
Long ago, I had this problem but the zfs1 in this case was a syslog
server.  What was happening was, all the hosts were sending traffic to
the server but since it was just receiving syslog/UDP, that host
rarely ever sent any traffic back out.  So switches didn't know where
it was once the forwarding table expired the MAC and flooded all
ports.  We just setup a cron job every 10 minutes (or something.  It
was 13 years ago.) to send out a ping to the host connected to the
farthest switch.  So, I guess it kind of depends on what traffic is
going/coming from zfs1.  If it's like syslog, it may be the same as
what I went through.

On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Ray Van Dolson rvandol...@esri.com wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 08:04:10PM -0700, Jay Hennigan wrote:
 On 3/22/10 7:03 PM, Ray Van Dolson wrote:
  We have two Dell PowerConnect M6220 switches (A1 and B1).  They are not
  cross-connected, but both have uplinks to the same subnet:
 
                        zfs1
                       /
                     ++
                     | A1 |-|
                     ++     +---+
                                | Cisco |--- linux1
                     ++     +---+
                     | B1 |-|
                     ++
                      / \
                    esx1 esx2
 
  There's a host hanging off of A1 (zfs1) and several ESX hosts hanging
  off of B1 (esx1, esx2, etc).  There's a host linux1 hanging off the
  Cisco as well (actually many hosts, but for the sake of description
 
  What's happening is, esx1/2 beging talking to zfs1.  All is well for a
  while... but at some point, zfs1's MAC address expires from the CAM on
  the switch (I guess that is what is happening).
 
  At that point, the Cisco begins forwarding the unicast packets to all
  its ports.  The result -- linux1, and all other hosts see the packets.
  Occasionally, when we're dealing with a lot of traffic, this seriously
  impacts performance.

 Is the Cisco a router or a layer 2 switch?  All hosts in the same IP
 subnet?  Subnet masks all match?  Nothing doing proxy-arp?

  My question here is.. what is the _right_ way to deal with this?  This
  flooding can continue for many minutes at a time.. it isn't until an
  ARP reply eminates from zfs1 that the CAM table is populated again and
  the broadcasting stops.

 If these are layer 2 switches, ARP won't have anything to do with it.

 If zfs1's MAC expires from the MAC address table on the cisco, it will
 flood the next packet for that MAC.  A1 will forward it to zfs1 or flood
 if it too has expired the MAC.

 When zfs1 replies, A1 forwards the reply to the cisco.  At that point,
 the cisco should re-install the MAC into its address table and the
 flooding cease.

 This should happen with a single packet.

 Does this happen with any other hosts behind A1?  Any interface errors
 on any of the devices?

  I wonder if zfs1 would send back an ARP response quicker were it not
  behind an additional switch (the PowerConnect)...

 If layer 2 switches, ARP doesn't have anything to do with it.

 I'll have to find out how the Cisco's are configured.  I wouldn't be
 surprised if they're doing some Layer 3 though as I know some VLAN
 routing is going on...

 The Dell switches both seem to have Routing Mode enabled as well (but
 proxy arp disabled).

 There currently aren't any other hosts behind A1, but that would be a
 good test.  No interface errors currently.

 Firmware is old on A1, so at this point I'm a little suspicious it's to
 blame.

 Just wanted to try and wrap my head around this first.

 Thanks,
 Ray
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Re: [c-nsp] Unicast traffic being sent to every port? Aging issue?

2010-03-22 Thread evil bit
What's happening is, esx1/2 beging talking to zfs1.  All is well for a
while... but at some point, zfs1's MAC address expires from the CAM on
the switch (I guess that is what is happening).

Great, this is a good step; however, you need to have
valid data to backup your theory! Have you logged into the switch to
verify the MAC is expiring?

At that point, the Cisco begins forwarding the unicast packets to all
its ports.  The result -- linux1, and all other hosts see the packets.
Occasionally, when we're dealing with a lot of traffic, this seriously
impacts performance.

Have you conducted any packet captures (Wireshark is your friend).

My question here is.. what is the _right_ way to deal with this?  This
flooding can continue for many minutes at a time.. it isn't until an
ARP reply eminates from zfs1 that the CAM table is populated again and
the broadcasting stops.

When did this start? Is this a new environment? What was changed in the
network? Was anything added? Have you released a new application or released
an update to the application? There are many questions to be asked as a
first
step. You state that performance is impacted; very possible you have a
broadcast
storm (Check the broadcast counters on the interfaces [what is the cpu
utilization like
on the switches?]), bad NIC on a server, many possibilities here. What makes
you
think that flooding is occurring to a point that is causing performance
issues?

IMHO, your first start is to check the status of all switches during the
issue and
also start capturing packets utilizing wireshark on the hosts and/or
possibly SPAN
a port on the Cisco/Dells.

Good Luck
E.B
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Re: [c-nsp] Unicast traffic being sent to every port? Aging issue?

2010-03-22 Thread Kevin Cullimore

On 3/22/2010 11:14 PM, Ray Van Dolson wrote:

On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 08:04:10PM -0700, Jay Hennigan wrote:
   

On 3/22/10 7:03 PM, Ray Van Dolson wrote:
 

We have two Dell PowerConnect M6220 switches (A1 and B1).  They are not
cross-connected, but both have uplinks to the same subnet:

   zfs1
  /
++
| A1 |-|
++ +---+
   | Cisco |--- linux1
++ +---+
| B1 |-|
++
 / \
   esx1 esx2

There's a host hanging off of A1 (zfs1) and several ESX hosts hanging
off of B1 (esx1, esx2, etc).  There's a host linux1 hanging off the
Cisco as well (actually many hosts, but for the sake of description

What's happening is, esx1/2 beging talking to zfs1.  All is well for a
while... but at some point, zfs1's MAC address expires from the CAM on
the switch (I guess that is what is happening).

At that point, the Cisco begins forwarding the unicast packets to all
its ports.  The result -- linux1, and all other hosts see the packets.
Occasionally, when we're dealing with a lot of traffic, this seriously
impacts performance.
   

Is the Cisco a router or a layer 2 switch?  All hosts in the same IP
subnet?  Subnet masks all match?  Nothing doing proxy-arp?

 

My question here is.. what is the _right_ way to deal with this?  This
flooding can continue for many minutes at a time.. it isn't until an
ARP reply eminates from zfs1 that the CAM table is populated again and
the broadcasting stops.
   

If these are layer 2 switches, ARP won't have anything to do with it.

If zfs1's MAC expires from the MAC address table on the cisco, it will
flood the next packet for that MAC.  A1 will forward it to zfs1 or flood
if it too has expired the MAC.

When zfs1 replies, A1 forwards the reply to the cisco.  At that point,
the cisco should re-install the MAC into its address table and the
flooding cease.

This should happen with a single packet.

Does this happen with any other hosts behind A1?  Any interface errors
on any of the devices?

 

I wonder if zfs1 would send back an ARP response quicker were it not
behind an additional switch (the PowerConnect)...
   

If layer 2 switches, ARP doesn't have anything to do with it.
 

I'll have to find out how the Cisco's are configured.  I wouldn't be
surprised if they're doing some Layer 3 though as I know some VLAN
routing is going on...

The Dell switches both seem to have Routing Mode enabled as well (but
proxy arp disabled).

There currently aren't any other hosts behind A1, but that would be a
good test.  No interface errors currently.

Firmware is old on A1, so at this point I'm a little suspicious it's to
blame.

Just wanted to try and wrap my head around this first.

Thanks,
Ray
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In other multivendor LAN setups, We've noticed similar behavior and 
enjoyed some success by synching the arp timers. That's worth a look if 
you haven't already followed that line of investigation.

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Re: [c-nsp] Unicast traffic being sent to every port? Aging issue?

2010-03-22 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 07:03:36PM -0700, Ray Van Dolson wrote:
 We have two Dell PowerConnect M6220 switches (A1 and B1).  They are not
 cross-connected, but both have uplinks to the same subnet:
 
   zfs1
  /
++
| A1 |-|
++ +---+
   | Cisco |--- linux1
++ +---+
| B1 |-|
++
 / \
   esx1 esx2
 
 There's a host hanging off of A1 (zfs1) and several ESX hosts hanging
 off of B1 (esx1, esx2, etc).  There's a host linux1 hanging off the
 Cisco as well (actually many hosts, but for the sake of description
 
 What's happening is, esx1/2 beging talking to zfs1.  All is well for a
 while... but at some point, zfs1's MAC address expires from the CAM on
 the switch (I guess that is what is happening).
 
 At that point, the Cisco begins forwarding the unicast packets to all
 its ports.  The result -- linux1, and all other hosts see the packets.
 Occasionally, when we're dealing with a lot of traffic, this seriously
 impacts performance.
 
 My question here is.. what is the _right_ way to deal with this?  This
 flooding can continue for many minutes at a time.. it isn't until an
 ARP reply eminates from zfs1 that the CAM table is populated again and
 the broadcasting stops.
 
 I wonder if zfs1 would send back an ARP response quicker were it not
 behind an additional switch (the PowerConnect)... 

Well, I think I've nailed down the cause for this.

Probably if I'd more completely described things some of you woulda
pointed it out right away, but I was trying to keep the model
simplistic.

zfs1 is multi-homed.  Two interfaces on the same subnet.  Running
Solaris 10 with no special source based routing setup

I probably don't need to go any further, but, suffice it to say,
packets destined for one interface on zfs1 were going in just fine,
but the replies were going out the other interface -- with a different
MAC address.

So obviously the switches eventually lose track of the real MAC
address and we get the symptoms I described.

Probably can be corrected with ipfilter in Solaris or changing our
infrastructure somewhat to handle this better.

Thanks all who replied -- it was good to learn about unicast storms!

Ray
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