Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??????????

2008-08-04 Thread Hashiru Aminu -X (haminu - SSAI at Cisco)
I would say for Design reference this is really good and
informativeyou might wana take a look at it  
http://www.cisco.com/application/pdf/en/us/guest/netsol/ns376/c649/ccmig
ration_09186a008078de90.pdf
 your first puzzle will be the logical  placement of the module and the
devices and the modes they are to operate, as the case is always : it
depends but take a look at the file above.



HTH

Hash

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Cisco has published the following for design with ACE and FWSM.
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/solution/*ace*_*fwsm*.pdf



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Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??????????

2008-08-03 Thread Nihar Mehta
Cisco has published the following for design with ACE and FWSM.
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/solution/*ace*_*fwsm*.pdf



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Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??????????

2008-07-31 Thread Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists
 I am working on implementing two 6509 chassis setup using vss
 and ace/fwsm modules. Anyone know of any good books for the ACE
 and FWSM modules?

Neither ACE nor FWSM is currently supported in a Catalyst 6500
running VSS. The NAM is the only service module supported today.
(See the VSS Config Guide on http://tinyurl.com/yqg97w)

You will need to run the 6500s in a standard HSRP / STP setup.

-A

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Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??????????

2008-07-31 Thread Christian Koch
FWSM is supported with 12.2(33)SXI

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:25 AM, Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

  I am working on implementing two 6509 chassis setup using vss
  and ace/fwsm modules. Anyone know of any good books for the ACE
  and FWSM modules?

 Neither ACE nor FWSM is currently supported in a Catalyst 6500
 running VSS. The NAM is the only service module supported today.
 (See the VSS Config Guide on http://tinyurl.com/yqg97w)

 You will need to run the 6500s in a standard HSRP / STP setup.

 -A

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Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??????????

2008-07-31 Thread Holemans Wim
Can someone clarify the PAGP problem ? I had a discussion with someone
of Cisco for a new design in one of our datarooms and we had chosen a
VSS solution with dual 3750E stacks and 20Gig uplinks in each rack to
the VSS chassis for max redundantie. According to our Cisco contact,
this was a working solution. If however it is impossible to make
channels between a 3750E cluster and both switches in a VSS, the
complete design has to be redone...

Wim Holemans
Network Services 
University of Antwerp



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Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:19 PM
To: Teller, Robert; Tony Varriale; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??

Last time I checked the 3750 did not support the pagp extensions for
vss. You would get an stp loop if you tried. Has this support changed?

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Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??????????

2008-07-31 Thread Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists
 FWSM is supported with 12.2(33)SXI

I think you meant to write: 'FWSM *will be* supported in SXI'.

Yes, SXI should ship sometime soon and will add new hardware
support. It will also add tons of new features and likely a lot
of new bugs. Whether one is willing to be one of the first to
use it in production in a data center... well YMMV.

And it's not here today.

-A

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Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??????????

2008-07-31 Thread James Slepicka
Should work fine (though, admittedly, I haven't deployed this config).  
The purpose of PAgP+ is to provide dual-active detection should the VSL 
between your VSS pair fail.  If your devices don't support PAgP+, you 
need to configure a dedicated link to perform this detection instead.


See 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps5718/ps9336/prod_white_paper0900aecd806ee2ed_ps2797_Products_White_Paper.html



Holemans Wim wrote:

Can someone clarify the PAGP problem ? I had a discussion with someone
of Cisco for a new design in one of our datarooms and we had chosen a
VSS solution with dual 3750E stacks and 20Gig uplinks in each rack to
the VSS chassis for max redundantie. According to our Cisco contact,
this was a working solution. If however it is impossible to make
channels between a 3750E cluster and both switches in a VSS, the
complete design has to be redone...

Wim Holemans
Network Services 
University of Antwerp




-Original Message-
From: Mike Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:19 PM

To: Teller, Robert; Tony Varriale; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??

Last time I checked the 3750 did not support the pagp extensions for
vss. You would get an stp loop if you tried. Has this support changed?

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Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??????????

2008-07-30 Thread Teller, Robert
I am going for a collapsed core design and using 4948's for top of rack access.



From: Mike Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 7/29/2008 7:56 PM
To: Teller, Robert; Tony Varriale; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??



When you have the vss core what will you attach to it from the dist\access 
layers? How will they attach to the vss core?

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Subject: RE: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??


I will be replacing the 3750 with the 6509's

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:19 PM
To: Teller, Robert; Tony Varriale; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??

Last time I checked the 3750 did not support the pagp extensions for
vss. You would get an stp loop if you tried. Has this support changed?

-Original Message-
From: Teller, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:42 PM
To: Tony Varriale [EMAIL PROTECTED]; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??


My plan is to collapse my core switch(3750), pix, and css devices into
two 6509's with the fwsm/ace/Gig-e modules. I am just trying to decide
the best way to segregate the internal lan and middle tier dmz's.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Varriale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 4:27 PM
To: Teller, Robert; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??

If you want something somewhat Cisco centric, the Networkers slides on
the
ACE blades are ok.  They cover some nice basics about load balancing and

about the ACE blades.

For FWSM, the Cisco docs are decent.  The code is almost the same as on
the
pix/asa.  So the Cisco Press firewall book would do well.

tv
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Subject: RE: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??


Yeah I am going to have a contractor come in for a day to work on some
of the best practices type stuff but was looking for a book to read on
the side.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Varriale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 4:11 PM
To: Teller, Robert; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??

Sorry, VSS and those modules are not supported yet.

The ACE and FWSM blades are somewhat complex.  I would recommend
piggy-backing on someone that has experience.

tv
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Subject: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??


I am working on implementing two 6509 chassis setup using vss and
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 modules?



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Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??????????

2008-07-30 Thread Kevin Graham


  My plan is to collapse my core switch(3750), pix, and css devices into

  two 6509's with the fwsm/ace/Gig-e modules. I am just trying to decide
  the best way to segregate the internal lan and middle tier dmz's.
 
 Our experience with 6500/7600 and IOS support makes this look like a bad
 plan.  
[...]
 Historic precedence shows that all 6500/7600 blades that are not ethernet 
 based have a fairly short life experience (or won't be supported in 
 whatever chassis you have, you always need the other one).

Much agreed. Unless you need the throughput on the modules, an ASA and ACE
4710 strapped to the 3750 stack will likely be cheaper, easier to manage
(the only management gain with ACE-M and FWSM is power control), have better
availability characteristics and leave your options for redeployment and
future upgrades wide open. With the leftover budget, start swapping in
3750E's and you'd be in great shape. 

Based on past performance, unless you intend to deploy this and leave it
untouched until you forklift everything but the chassis. The really cute
part is that support will be _effectively_ dropped well before Cisco issues
an EOS notice. (Just one example is that Cisco will still sell you a new
CSM, though don't put it in a SXH switch (which a 720C requires), as it
will be powered down due to being unsupported while still preserving all of
the CLI's.)

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Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??????????

2008-07-30 Thread Teller, Robert
I already have the hardware and I am prepping for migration.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 9:57 AM
To: Gert Doering; Teller, Robert
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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??



  My plan is to collapse my core switch(3750), pix, and css devices
into

  two 6509's with the fwsm/ace/Gig-e modules. I am just trying to
decide
  the best way to segregate the internal lan and middle tier dmz's.
 
 Our experience with 6500/7600 and IOS support makes this look like a
bad
 plan.  
[...]
 Historic precedence shows that all 6500/7600 blades that are not
ethernet 
 based have a fairly short life experience (or won't be supported in 
 whatever chassis you have, you always need the other one).

Much agreed. Unless you need the throughput on the modules, an ASA and
ACE
4710 strapped to the 3750 stack will likely be cheaper, easier to manage
(the only management gain with ACE-M and FWSM is power control), have
better
availability characteristics and leave your options for redeployment and
future upgrades wide open. With the leftover budget, start swapping in
3750E's and you'd be in great shape. 

Based on past performance, unless you intend to deploy this and leave it
untouched until you forklift everything but the chassis. The really cute
part is that support will be _effectively_ dropped well before Cisco
issues
an EOS notice. (Just one example is that Cisco will still sell you a new
CSM, though don't put it in a SXH switch (which a 720C requires), as it
will be powered down due to being unsupported while still preserving all
of
the CLI's.)



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Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??????????

2008-07-29 Thread Tony Varriale

Sorry, VSS and those modules are not supported yet.

The ACE and FWSM blades are somewhat complex.  I would recommend 
piggy-backing on someone that has experience.


tv
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I am working on implementing two 6509 chassis setup using vss and
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modules?



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Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??????????

2008-07-29 Thread Teller, Robert
Yeah I am going to have a contractor come in for a day to work on some
of the best practices type stuff but was looking for a book to read on
the side.

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Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 4:11 PM
To: Teller, Robert; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??

Sorry, VSS and those modules are not supported yet.

The ACE and FWSM blades are somewhat complex.  I would recommend 
piggy-backing on someone that has experience.

tv
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I am working on implementing two 6509 chassis setup using vss and
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Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??????????

2008-07-29 Thread Tony Varriale
If you want something somewhat Cisco centric, the Networkers slides on the 
ACE blades are ok.  They cover some nice basics about load balancing and 
about the ACE blades.


For FWSM, the Cisco docs are decent.  The code is almost the same as on the 
pix/asa.  So the Cisco Press firewall book would do well.


tv
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From: Teller, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Tony Varriale [EMAIL PROTECTED]; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:19 PM
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??


Yeah I am going to have a contractor come in for a day to work on some
of the best practices type stuff but was looking for a book to read on
the side.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Varriale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 4:11 PM
To: Teller, Robert; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??

Sorry, VSS and those modules are not supported yet.

The ACE and FWSM blades are somewhat complex.  I would recommend
piggy-backing on someone that has experience.

tv
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To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:49 PM
Subject: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??



I am working on implementing two 6509 chassis setup using vss and
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Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??????????

2008-07-29 Thread Teller, Robert
My plan is to collapse my core switch(3750), pix, and css devices into
two 6509's with the fwsm/ace/Gig-e modules. I am just trying to decide
the best way to segregate the internal lan and middle tier dmz's.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Varriale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 4:27 PM
To: Teller, Robert; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??

If you want something somewhat Cisco centric, the Networkers slides on
the 
ACE blades are ok.  They cover some nice basics about load balancing and

about the ACE blades.

For FWSM, the Cisco docs are decent.  The code is almost the same as on
the 
pix/asa.  So the Cisco Press firewall book would do well.

tv
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From: Teller, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tony Varriale [EMAIL PROTECTED]; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:19 PM
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??


Yeah I am going to have a contractor come in for a day to work on some
of the best practices type stuff but was looking for a book to read on
the side.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Varriale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 4:11 PM
To: Teller, Robert; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??

Sorry, VSS and those modules are not supported yet.

The ACE and FWSM blades are somewhat complex.  I would recommend
piggy-backing on someone that has experience.

tv
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To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:49 PM
Subject: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??


I am working on implementing two 6509 chassis setup using vss and
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 modules?



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Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??????????

2008-07-29 Thread Christian Koch
i found some of the docs on cisco.com to be pretty useful..

ACE
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6906/tsd_products_support_model_home.html

FWSM
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/modules/ps2706/ps4452/tsd_products_support_model_home.html

the virtualization design guide should be able to give you some ideas to
start from

as Tony mentioned, the fwsm is similar to asa/pix code, the cpress book is
decent, i found it very basic

unfortunately the full FWSM book doesnt come out until i think september..




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Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??????????

2008-07-29 Thread Mike Louis
Last time I checked the 3750 did not support the pagp extensions for vss. You 
would get an stp loop if you tried. Has this support changed?

-Original Message-
From: Teller, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:42 PM
To: Tony Varriale [EMAIL PROTECTED]; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net 
cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??


My plan is to collapse my core switch(3750), pix, and css devices into
two 6509's with the fwsm/ace/Gig-e modules. I am just trying to decide
the best way to segregate the internal lan and middle tier dmz's.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Varriale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 4:27 PM
To: Teller, Robert; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??

If you want something somewhat Cisco centric, the Networkers slides on
the
ACE blades are ok.  They cover some nice basics about load balancing and

about the ACE blades.

For FWSM, the Cisco docs are decent.  The code is almost the same as on
the
pix/asa.  So the Cisco Press firewall book would do well.

tv
- Original Message -
From: Teller, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tony Varriale [EMAIL PROTECTED]; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:19 PM
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??


Yeah I am going to have a contractor come in for a day to work on some
of the best practices type stuff but was looking for a book to read on
the side.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Varriale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 4:11 PM
To: Teller, Robert; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??

Sorry, VSS and those modules are not supported yet.

The ACE and FWSM blades are somewhat complex.  I would recommend
piggy-backing on someone that has experience.

tv
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Subject: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??


I am working on implementing two 6509 chassis setup using vss and
 ace/fwsm modules. Anyone know of any good books for the ACE and FWSM
 modules?



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Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??????????

2008-07-29 Thread Teller, Robert
I will be replacing the 3750 with the 6509's

-Original Message-
From: Mike Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:19 PM
To: Teller, Robert; Tony Varriale; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??

Last time I checked the 3750 did not support the pagp extensions for
vss. You would get an stp loop if you tried. Has this support changed?

-Original Message-
From: Teller, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:42 PM
To: Tony Varriale [EMAIL PROTECTED]; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??


My plan is to collapse my core switch(3750), pix, and css devices into
two 6509's with the fwsm/ace/Gig-e modules. I am just trying to decide
the best way to segregate the internal lan and middle tier dmz's.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Varriale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 4:27 PM
To: Teller, Robert; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??

If you want something somewhat Cisco centric, the Networkers slides on
the
ACE blades are ok.  They cover some nice basics about load balancing and

about the ACE blades.

For FWSM, the Cisco docs are decent.  The code is almost the same as on
the
pix/asa.  So the Cisco Press firewall book would do well.

tv
- Original Message -
From: Teller, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tony Varriale [EMAIL PROTECTED]; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:19 PM
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??


Yeah I am going to have a contractor come in for a day to work on some
of the best practices type stuff but was looking for a book to read on
the side.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Varriale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 4:11 PM
To: Teller, Robert; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??

Sorry, VSS and those modules are not supported yet.

The ACE and FWSM blades are somewhat complex.  I would recommend
piggy-backing on someone that has experience.

tv
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To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:49 PM
Subject: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??


I am working on implementing two 6509 chassis setup using vss and
 ace/fwsm modules. Anyone know of any good books for the ACE and FWSM
 modules?



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Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??????????

2008-07-29 Thread Mike Louis
When you have the vss core what will you attach to it from the dist\access 
layers? How will they attach to the vss core?

-Original Message-
From: Teller, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:06 PM
To: Mike Louis [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tony Varriale [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??


I will be replacing the 3750 with the 6509's

-Original Message-
From: Mike Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:19 PM
To: Teller, Robert; Tony Varriale; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??

Last time I checked the 3750 did not support the pagp extensions for
vss. You would get an stp loop if you tried. Has this support changed?

-Original Message-
From: Teller, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:42 PM
To: Tony Varriale [EMAIL PROTECTED]; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??


My plan is to collapse my core switch(3750), pix, and css devices into
two 6509's with the fwsm/ace/Gig-e modules. I am just trying to decide
the best way to segregate the internal lan and middle tier dmz's.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Varriale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 4:27 PM
To: Teller, Robert; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??

If you want something somewhat Cisco centric, the Networkers slides on
the
ACE blades are ok.  They cover some nice basics about load balancing and

about the ACE blades.

For FWSM, the Cisco docs are decent.  The code is almost the same as on
the
pix/asa.  So the Cisco Press firewall book would do well.

tv
- Original Message -
From: Teller, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tony Varriale [EMAIL PROTECTED]; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:19 PM
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??


Yeah I am going to have a contractor come in for a day to work on some
of the best practices type stuff but was looking for a book to read on
the side.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Varriale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 4:11 PM
To: Teller, Robert; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??

Sorry, VSS and those modules are not supported yet.

The ACE and FWSM blades are somewhat complex.  I would recommend
piggy-backing on someone that has experience.

tv
- Original Message -
From: Teller, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:49 PM
Subject: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??


I am working on implementing two 6509 chassis setup using vss and
 ace/fwsm modules. Anyone know of any good books for the ACE and FWSM
 modules?



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Re: [c-nsp] 6509 ACE/FWSM Modules??????????

2008-07-29 Thread Justin Shore

Teller, Robert wrote:

I am working on implementing two 6509 chassis setup using vss and
ace/fwsm modules. Anyone know of any good books for the ACE and FWSM
modules?


I found the Cisco ASA, PIX, and FWSM Firewall Handbook to be a fair 
book.  Granted it's not perfect but you want to get your feet wet on the 
FWSM then that's a good start.  I found it very useful when we got our 
first FWSMs.


http://tinyurl.com/5qwe58

As far as the ACEs go I'm not aware of any books on them.  I have 2 and 
still haven't got them in production.


Best of luck,
 Justin


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