Re: [cisco-voip] Changing CUCM SystemServer from IP to FQDN

2014-02-19 Thread Justin Steinberg
here is how I understand it.

If DNS has the _cisco-uds._tcp.customer.com SRV record, Jabber starts the
service discovery process using that SRV.

Jabber takes the results from the SRV, then performs a query against the
CUCM defined in the SRV using:

https://homeCluster:8443/cucm-uds/servers

Unfortunately, the results to the above query are based on the CUCM System
 Server.   If that is defined as IP, then Jabber gets IPs.

Then Jabber takes those IPs, and performs the check below.

https://IP:8443/cucm-uds/clusterUser?username=userid

Since Jabber uses IP, it throws a cert validation error because the IP
doesn't match the FQDN (or SAN) of the certs.

There is a defect on CUCM CSCul15900 and a COP to correct that, but it only
applies to the second URL above.   The first URL continues to return IPs
and this causes the issue.

If I remove the _cisco-uds SRV and go without using service discovery, I
don't encounter the issue.  Because Jabber doesn't perform the associated
queries listed above.

I've opened TAC case for this 629194597, and the Presence engineer
indicated changing CUCM SystemServer to FQDN was an option.

There is also a defect on the Jabber client CSCul39696, which seems to
indicate that jabber will allow CUCM SystemServer to just be a hostname
and the tomcat to only have the FQDN.   So it seems like eventually, we
could get by with CUCM SystemServer just set to hostname, but I don't yet
believe this is fixed in an available verson of Jabber.

It seems to be, that if CUCM team opened CSCul15900  to address:

https://IP:8443/cucm-uds/clusterUser?username=userid

They could also fix:

https://homeCluster:8443/cucm-uds/servers

and that would fix the problem.







On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) 
rratl...@cisco.com wrote:

  The doc I have is a draft version so may be subject to change.

  What is directing you to use the FQDN for helping jabber validate certs?
 I don't see anything perusing the server setup guide or install guide for
 9.6.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 18, 2014, at 8:35 PM, Justin Steinberg jsteinb...@gmail.com
 wrote:

   What document is that?

 The reason for changing the systemserver to fqdn is more because of the
 Jabber for Windows certificate validation process than for CE.

 That being said, if Jabber wants FQDN and Collab Edge doesn't, we will
 have a problem.
 On Feb 18, 2014 2:45 PM, Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) rratl...@cisco.com
 wrote:

 Using FQDN in System-Server on UCM is specifically not supported in the
 Collab Edge deployment guide I'm looking at.

  It's ok to use a hostname there but it must be resolvable by the
 Expressway-C (and the phones of course).

 -Ryan

  On Feb 18, 2014, at 11:36 AM, Erick Wellnitz ewellnitzv...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  We were but it interferes with EMCC.  The phone only does DNS lookups
 for the domain it is assigned so we switched back to IP addreses.


 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Justin Steinberg 
 jsteinb...@gmail.comwrote:

  Is anyone using CUCM deployments where they set the SystemServer
 value to the FQDN of the CUCM nodes ?

 I'm in the process of deploying Jabber for Windows 9.6+ with
 Collaboration Edge, and there are requirements around certificate
 validation that seem to require the CUCM SystemServer value set to a FQDN.

 I'm concerned around making this change and curious if others are using
 FQDN.

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[cisco-voip] 9951 Re-Registering Often

2014-02-19 Thread Matthew Loraditch
Here is the scenario:
9951s are becoming un registered when we are on backup WAN Connectivity. Our 
normal WAN is MPLS, backup is DMVPN over the internet. The 9951s randomly 
unregister when the handset is picked up, when speaker phone is attempted to be 
used, etc.  The rest of the phones are 6945s and SCCP. We have 0 issues with 
call control, voice quality, etc, etc with the 6945s and when the 9951s are 
registered calls complete and sound fine but they often de-register and since 
we like to use these for receptionists have issues with call flow.

Is there some sort of keep alive timer that affects these models that we should 
adjust? I'm fairly certain there must be but If anyone has heard of this 
specific type of scenario please let me know what the fix was.
Thanks!

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Re: [cisco-voip] UCCX Projects Cost Estimation - Labor Cost

2014-02-19 Thread Buchanan, James
Hello,

I would categorize the call flows according to the features between Enhanced 
and Premium. If you imagine that premium leaves you open to email queues, 
database dipping, etc., then you'll want to charge more for that. I can't give 
you a figure for that because everyone's skillset is different. Since you are 
one man providing support, I would think you would charge less than a Cisco 
partner since your pool of resources is far less. Then, I would charge for each 
type of call flow. You're on the right track.

Thanks,

James

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Subject: [cisco-voip] UCCX Projects Cost Estimation - Labor Cost

All:

I'm planning on doing some consulting on the UCCX side of the house and will be 
billing on a per project basis.  Does anyone know a good way of billing my 
labor for the entire project?  This won't be an hourly rate, but rather I will 
give them a bill for my services (Call-Flow scripting, Testing, Documentation, 
etc) and I need to know what a reasonable bill is?  Should I charge based on 
how many call-flows there are, the complexity of the call-flows, etc?


Hoping you can help.




Sincerely,

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[cisco-voip] CUCM Letters in Translation Pattern?

2014-02-19 Thread Roger Wiklund
Hi

I'm trying to match a called number from a CUBE that's C990134T.

I created a TP that matches C990134. predot. DNA show match and proper
strip etc.

However it does not work. If I strip the C in the CUBE and send 990134T it
works, so it looks like there's a problem with letters.

The syntax on TP says A-D is fine, what am I missing? Anything special like
the backslash with + (\+)

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Re: [cisco-voip] unexpected behaviour with Prepare Cluster for Rollback and migrating phones between v9 and v7 cluster

2014-02-19 Thread Brian Meade (brmeade)
Lelio,

So the phones will still get an ITL file in a “Prepare Cluster for Rollback” 
scenario but it should be a blank ITL allowing the phones to trust everything.  
If you open the trust list on the phone, you should see there are no TFTP 
servers defined in that scenario.

That explains the first thing you saw.

For the 2nd issue, it sounds like your offline cluster possibly was still 
serving out the blank ITL.  Restarting TFTP service may help there.  You’d need 
to check the trust list on the phones and actually see  what the phones got in 
that scenario.

Thanks,
Brian

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Subject: [cisco-voip] unexpected behaviour with Prepare Cluster for Rollback 
and migrating phones between v9 and v7 cluster


OK, now I am officially confused. ;)

I was under the impression that once a phone has registered to a v9 cluster, it 
downloads an ITL trust list/file which prevents it from registering to a v7 
cluster. To help with this, the Prepare Cluster for Rollback enterprise 
parameter was introduced.

Here's what I did:

  *   upgraded offline cluster (all servers had same hostname and IP address)
  *   set the Prepare Cluster for Rollback parameter to True and clicked Save 
(because there were no phones registered, I did not Apply Changes)
  *   plugged phones into the offline network
  *   phones registered to the new offline v9 cluster
  *   checked phone security pages - they showed ITL files listed (that long 
string of numbers)
  *   thinking it was the Apply Changes that missed something, I clicked that
  *   phones restarted, but still showed an ITL file
  *   brought a phone back to the live network, phone registered to the v7 
cluster (still has an ITL file listed)
  *   on offline cluster, change the Prepare Cluster for Rollback to False, 
clicked Save, clicked Apply Changes (phones restarted, and showed an ITL file)
  *   I picked up one of the phones from the offline network (now in 
rollback=false mode) and brought it to the live network. It registered to the 
v7 cluster.

So what I see are a few things confusing me:

  *   Why do phones still have ITL files if the cluster is in rollback mode. 
This is not a big deal, but I'd like to be able to tell from the phone when 
it's registered with the Prepare Cluster for Rollback set to TRUE.
  *   Why does a phone that registers to a v7 cluster still have it's ITL file 
set?
  *   Why (and this is the one that gets me) does a phone that was on v9 with 
Prepare Cluster for Rollback set to FALSE successfully register to the v7 
cluster?

Is the ITL trust list a simple hash of the IP addresses and host names of the 
cluster members? If I don't change anything, things will continue to work?



Is something wrong with my logic and steps? I was testing with a 7942 and a 
7962.



Lelio


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[cisco-voip] CUCM engineering special versions

2014-02-19 Thread Eric Pedersen
TAC is suggesting we go to CUCM 9.1.2. 11021.1, which is an engineering 
special, to fix a defect. We're already on 9.1.2 SU1. The version number for 
this is 9.1.2.11900-12 which is higher than the ES. I thought patches always 
meant going up in version numbers. Do SU versions work differently than ESs or 
is the engineer offering the wrong version?

Thanks,
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Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM engineering special versions

2014-02-19 Thread Brian Meade (brmeade)
Eric,

The SU version numbers don't exactly line up with the ES version numbers.

9.1.2.11900-12 (9.1.2 SU1) was actually built off of the 9.1.2.11006-1 
Engineering Special so the 9.1.2.11021.1 ES he told you to go to will indeed be 
a newer release.

Thanks,
Brian

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Subject: [cisco-voip] CUCM engineering special versions

TAC is suggesting we go to CUCM 9.1.2. 11021.1, which is an engineering 
special, to fix a defect. We're already on 9.1.2 SU1. The version number for 
this is 9.1.2.11900-12 which is higher than the ES. I thought patches always 
meant going up in version numbers. Do SU versions work differently than ESs or 
is the engineer offering the wrong version?

Thanks,
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Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM engineering special versions

2014-02-19 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi
Title: Signature
Great tip Tommy. Thanks.---Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.Senior Analyst, Network InfrastructureComputing and Communications Services (CCS)University of Guelph519‐824‐4120 Ext 56354le...@uoguelph.cawww.uoguelph.ca/ccsRoom 037, Animal Science and Nutrition BuildingGuelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1From: "Tommy Schlotterer" tschlotte...@netechcorp.comTo: "Eric Pedersen" peders...@bennettjones.com, cisco-voip@puck.nether.netSent: Wednesday, 19 February, 2014 6:44:41 PMSubject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM engineering special versionsIn the release notes for 9.1.2 check the “Resolved Caveats in 9.1.X ESX Base ES for 9.12 SU1” This is how you find out the base ES used for the SU Version. The only thing different between a ES and a SU is that the SU has been tested for regressions. Not sure why they give the SU a higher revision number though.Tommy Schlotterer | Systems EngineerCCNA, CCNA Voice48325 Alpha Dr. Ste. 150Wixom, MI 48393p 248.468.0710e tschlotte...@netechcorp.comw netechcorp.comFrom: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Eric PedersenSent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 6:13 PMTo: cisco-voip@puck.nether.netSubject: [cisco-voip] CUCM engineering special versionsTAC is suggesting we go to CUCM 9.1.2. 11021.1, which is an engineering special, to fix a defect. We're already on 9.1.2 SU1. The version number for this is 9.1.2.11900-12 which is higher than the ES. I thought patches always meant going up in version numbers. Do SU versions work differently than ESs or is the engineer offering the wrong version?Thanks,EricThe contents of this message may contain confidential and/or privilegedsubject matter. If this message has been received in error, please contactthe sender and delete all copies. Like other forms of communication,e-mail communications may be vulnerable to interception by unauthorizedparties. If you do not wish us to communicate with you by e-mail, pleasenotify us at your earliest convenience. In the absence of suchnotification, your consent is assumed. Should you choose to allow us tocommunicate by e-mail, we will not take any additional security measures(such as encryption) unless specifically requested.___cisco-voip mailing listcisco-voip@puck.nether.nethttps://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip___
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Re: [cisco-voip] UCCX/IPIVR isn't playing a new wav file

2014-02-19 Thread Ryan Burtch
We have a new wav file name.  We have refreshed the Application in the
admin page, but the it is still playing the old wav file.




Sincerely,

Ryan Burtch


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 Did the new file replace the old file (does it have the same name?)?

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 Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] UCCX/IPIVR isn't playing a new wav file

 Is there a way to manually refresh the wav file that is being pulled?

 By hitting the refresh icon.

 On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Ryan Burtch rburt...@gmail.commailto:
 rburt...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have added a new wav file in my CRS script and added it to the Media
 server on the IPIVR Admin page, but when I call the Toll-Free, the new wav
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Re: [cisco-voip] UCCX/IPIVR isn't playing a new wav file

2014-02-19 Thread James Buchanan
OK--here's a dumb question. Did you change the file name in your script?


On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Ryan Burtch rburt...@gmail.com wrote:

 We have a new wav file name.  We have refreshed the Application in the
 admin page, but the it is still playing the old wav file.




 Sincerely,

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 Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] UCCX/IPIVR isn't playing a new wav file

 Is there a way to manually refresh the wav file that is being pulled?

 By hitting the refresh icon.

 On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Ryan Burtch rburt...@gmail.commailto:
 rburt...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have added a new wav file in my CRS script and added it to the Media
 server on the IPIVR Admin page, but when I call the Toll-Free, the new wav
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 a way to manually refresh the wav file that is being pulled?



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Re: [cisco-voip] UCCX/IPIVR isn't playing a new wav file

2014-02-19 Thread Erick Bergquist
Maybe the script is playing the prompt from another folder than the new one
was uploaded to.
If the prompt is a parameter try changing it to new prompt or different
prompt then back on the application settings page.


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 OK--here's a dumb question. Did you change the file name in your script?


 On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Ryan Burtch rburt...@gmail.com wrote:

 We have a new wav file name.  We have refreshed the Application in the
 admin page, but the it is still playing the old wav file.




 Sincerely,

 Ryan Burtch


 On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Buchanan, James 
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 Did the new file replace the old file (does it have the same name?)?

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 Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] UCCX/IPIVR isn't playing a new wav file

 Is there a way to manually refresh the wav file that is being pulled?

 By hitting the refresh icon.

 On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Ryan Burtch rburt...@gmail.commailto:
 rburt...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have added a new wav file in my CRS script and added it to the Media
 server on the IPIVR Admin page, but when I call the Toll-Free, the new wav
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 a way to manually refresh the wav file that is being pulled?



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