Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

2015-09-14 Thread NateCCIE
I believe the installs have to be on a NFS share for VMware.

Upgrades are just sftp from the cucm side. 

Sent from my iPhone.

> On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:37 PM, Daniel Pagan <dpa...@fidelus.com> wrote:
> 
> I’m digging up this old thread once again.
>  
> With PCD v11 released, it’s great to see that remote SFTP sources can now be 
> used, but it’s also disappointing to see it restricted to upgrades only. Does 
> anyone know if there are plans to support migrations using a remote SFTP 
> server? Is the issue of not supporting migrations that PCD can’t source an 
> ISO from an external source while simultaneously storing and exporting UFF 
> and DB data locally?
>  
> Thanks ahead of time.
>  
> - Dan
>  
> From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
> Justin Steinberg
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 2:25 PM
> To: Adam Frankel (afrankel) <afran...@cisco.com>
> Cc: Cisco VoIP Group <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5
>  
> Hi Adam,
>  
> Can you elaborate on this yet ?  :)I never see any PCD software posted to 
> cisco.com, it always seems to require E-delivery download. I'm not sure 
> why that is, since all the other Prime Collaboration (Provisioning & 
> Assurance) can be downloaded from cisco.com
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Justin
>  
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Adam Frankel (afrankel) 
> <afran...@cisco.com> wrote:
> “Maybe an ability to leverage ISOs on VMWare datastores instead of from the 
> PCD server. “
>  
> …check cisco.com later this week or early next week J
>  
> --
> Adam
>  
> From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
> Heim, Dennis
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 9:16 AM
> To: Matthew Collins; Haas, Neal; 'Andrew Grech'; Nick
> 
> Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5
>  
> PCD is a great tool for single-site installs or upgrades in a lab 
> environment. Biggest limitation of PCD when multisites are involved, since it 
> pushes all ISOs from the PCD server. Maybe an ability to leverage ISOs on 
> VMWare datastores instead of from the PCD server.
>  
> Dennis Heim | Emerging Technology Architect (Collaboration)
> World Wide Technology, Inc. | +1 314-212-1814
> 
> 
> "Innovation happens on project squared" -- http://www.projectsquared.com
>  
> Click here to join me in my Collaboration Meeting Room
>  
>  
>  
> From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
> Matthew Collins
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 6:08 AM
> To: Haas, Neal; 'Andrew Grech'; Nick
> Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5
>  
> Just a note on this.
>  
> I have just completed a direct Hardware 8.5 to VM 10.5 with network changes 
> using Prime collaboration deployment. No Cop files need to be installed, No 
> jump upgrades, No restoring from backup. Really was a simple process.
>  
> If you haven’t used PCD I would strongly suggest taking a look next time you 
> upgrade or install a new build.
>  
> Regards
>  
> Matthew Collins
>  
>  
> From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
> Haas, Neal
> Sent: 27 March 2015 14:41
> To: 'Andrew Grech'; Nick
> Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5
>  
> 10.5 is VM only, 8.6.1 usually was MCS hardware.
>  
> To upgrade you will need to 8.6.1 upgrade to 9.1 on MCS. Then 9.1 MCS to VM, 
> the upgrade 9.1 to 10.5(2)SU1.
>  
>  
> Neal Haas
>  
> From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
> Andrew Grech
> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 7:30 AM
> To: Nick
> Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5
>  
> Supported vs the system will upgrade are two different things.
> 
> On 27/03/2015 1:51 AM, "Nick" <csv...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi All
>  
> Just checking through documentation for CUCM 10.5 for an upgrade, the 
> compatibility guide states that a direct upgrade is from 8.6.1 onwards as 
> shown below.
>  
> Upgrade Paths for Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 10.5(2)SU1
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Note
>  
> If your release is not listed in the following table, find the upgrade path 
> from your current release to a listed release in Cisco Unified Communications 
> Manager Software Compatibility Matrix for Release 9.X and Earlier at 
> http:/​/​www.cisco.com/​en/​US/​docs/​voice_ip_comm/​cucm/​compat/​ccmcompmatr1.pdf.
>  
>  
> Table 15 Export Restricted Suppo

Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

2015-09-14 Thread Daniel Pagan
I don’t know why this failed to connected when reading the release notes. Quite 
the brain fart… No OS = no SFTP = local mounting of ISO.

- Dan

From: NateCCIE [mailto:natec...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 4:42 PM
To: Daniel Pagan <dpa...@fidelus.com>
Cc: Justin Steinberg <jsteinb...@gmail.com>; Adam Frankel (afrankel) 
<afran...@cisco.com>; Cisco VoIP Group <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

I believe the installs have to be on a NFS share for VMware.

Upgrades are just sftp from the cucm side.

Sent from my iPhone.

On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:37 PM, Daniel Pagan 
<dpa...@fidelus.com<mailto:dpa...@fidelus.com>> wrote:
I’m digging up this old thread once again.

With PCD v11 released, it’s great to see that remote SFTP sources can now be 
used, but it’s also disappointing to see it restricted to upgrades only. Does 
anyone know if there are plans to support migrations using a remote SFTP 
server? Is the issue of not supporting migrations that PCD can’t source an ISO 
from an external source while simultaneously storing and exporting UFF and DB 
data locally?

Thanks ahead of time.

- Dan

From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
Justin Steinberg
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 2:25 PM
To: Adam Frankel (afrankel) <afran...@cisco.com<mailto:afran...@cisco.com>>
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group 
<cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

Hi Adam,

Can you elaborate on this yet ?  :)I never see any PCD software posted to 
cisco.com<http://cisco.com>, it always seems to require E-delivery download.
 I'm not sure why that is, since all the other Prime Collaboration 
(Provisioning & Assurance) can be downloaded from cisco.com<http://cisco.com>

Thanks,

Justin

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Adam Frankel (afrankel) 
<afran...@cisco.com<mailto:afran...@cisco.com>> wrote:
“Maybe an ability to leverage ISOs on VMWare datastores instead of from the PCD 
server. “

…check cisco.com<http://cisco.com> later this week or early next week ☺

--
Adam

From: cisco-voip 
[mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>]
 On Behalf Of Heim, Dennis
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 9:16 AM
To: Matthew Collins; Haas, Neal; 'Andrew Grech'; Nick

Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

PCD is a great tool for single-site installs or upgrades in a lab environment. 
Biggest limitation of PCD when multisites are involved, since it pushes all 
ISOs from the PCD server. Maybe an ability to leverage ISOs on VMWare 
datastores instead of from the PCD server.

Dennis Heim | Emerging Technology Architect (Collaboration)
World Wide Technology, Inc. | +1 314-212-1814<tel:%2B1%20314-212-1814>
[twitter]<https://twitter.com/CollabSensei>
[Phone]<tel:+13142121814>
"Innovation happens on project squared" -- 
http://www.projectsquared.com<http://www.projectsquared.com/>

Click here to join me in my Collaboration Meeting 
Room<https://wwt.webex.com/meet/dennis.heim>



From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
Matthew Collins
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 6:08 AM
To: Haas, Neal; 'Andrew Grech'; Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

Just a note on this.

I have just completed a direct Hardware 8.5 to VM 10.5 with network changes 
using Prime collaboration deployment. No Cop files need to be installed, No 
jump upgrades, No restoring from backup. Really was a simple process.

If you haven’t used PCD I would strongly suggest taking a look next time you 
upgrade or install a new build.

Regards

Matthew Collins


From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Haas, 
Neal
Sent: 27 March 2015 14:41
To: 'Andrew Grech'; Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

10.5 is VM only, 8.6.1 usually was MCS hardware.

To upgrade you will need to 8.6.1 upgrade to 9.1 on MCS. Then 9.1 MCS to VM, 
the upgrade 9.1 to 10.5(2)SU1.


Neal Haas

From: cisco-voip 
[mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net]<mailto:[mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net]>
 On Behalf Of Andrew Grech
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 7:30 AM
To: Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5


Supported vs the system will upgrade are two different things.
On 27/03/2015 1:51 AM, "Nick" 
<csv...@googlemail.com<mailto:csv...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
Hi All

Just checking through documentation for CUCM 10.5 for an upgrade, the 
compatibility guide states that a direct upgrade is from 8.6.1 onwards as shown 
below.

Upgrade Paths for Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 10.5(2)SU1

[http://www.cisco

Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

2015-09-14 Thread Daniel Pagan
I’m digging up this old thread once again.

With PCD v11 released, it’s great to see that remote SFTP sources can now be 
used, but it’s also disappointing to see it restricted to upgrades only. Does 
anyone know if there are plans to support migrations using a remote SFTP 
server? Is the issue of not supporting migrations that PCD can’t source an ISO 
from an external source while simultaneously storing and exporting UFF and DB 
data locally?

Thanks ahead of time.

- Dan

From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
Justin Steinberg
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 2:25 PM
To: Adam Frankel (afrankel) <afran...@cisco.com>
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

Hi Adam,

Can you elaborate on this yet ?  :)I never see any PCD software posted to 
cisco.com<http://cisco.com>, it always seems to require E-delivery download.
 I'm not sure why that is, since all the other Prime Collaboration 
(Provisioning & Assurance) can be downloaded from cisco.com<http://cisco.com>

Thanks,

Justin

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Adam Frankel (afrankel) 
<afran...@cisco.com<mailto:afran...@cisco.com>> wrote:
“Maybe an ability to leverage ISOs on VMWare datastores instead of from the PCD 
server. “

…check cisco.com<http://cisco.com> later this week or early next week ☺

--
Adam

From: cisco-voip 
[mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>]
 On Behalf Of Heim, Dennis
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 9:16 AM
To: Matthew Collins; Haas, Neal; 'Andrew Grech'; Nick

Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

PCD is a great tool for single-site installs or upgrades in a lab environment. 
Biggest limitation of PCD when multisites are involved, since it pushes all 
ISOs from the PCD server. Maybe an ability to leverage ISOs on VMWare 
datastores instead of from the PCD server.

Dennis Heim | Emerging Technology Architect (Collaboration)
World Wide Technology, Inc. | +1 314-212-1814<tel:%2B1%20314-212-1814>
[twitter]<https://twitter.com/CollabSensei>
[chat][Phone]<tel:+13142121814>[video]
"Innovation happens on project squared" -- 
http://www.projectsquared.com<http://www.projectsquared.com/>

Click here to join me in my Collaboration Meeting 
Room<https://wwt.webex.com/meet/dennis.heim>



From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
Matthew Collins
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 6:08 AM
To: Haas, Neal; 'Andrew Grech'; Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

Just a note on this.

I have just completed a direct Hardware 8.5 to VM 10.5 with network changes 
using Prime collaboration deployment. No Cop files need to be installed, No 
jump upgrades, No restoring from backup. Really was a simple process.

If you haven’t used PCD I would strongly suggest taking a look next time you 
upgrade or install a new build.

Regards

Matthew Collins


From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Haas, 
Neal
Sent: 27 March 2015 14:41
To: 'Andrew Grech'; Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

10.5 is VM only, 8.6.1 usually was MCS hardware.

To upgrade you will need to 8.6.1 upgrade to 9.1 on MCS. Then 9.1 MCS to VM, 
the upgrade 9.1 to 10.5(2)SU1.


Neal Haas

From: cisco-voip 
[mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net]<mailto:[mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net]>
 On Behalf Of Andrew Grech
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 7:30 AM
To: Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5


Supported vs the system will upgrade are two different things.
On 27/03/2015 1:51 AM, "Nick" 
<csv...@googlemail.com<mailto:csv...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
Hi All

Just checking through documentation for CUCM 10.5 for an upgrade, the 
compatibility guide states that a direct upgrade is from 8.6.1 onwards as shown 
below.

Upgrade Paths for Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 10.5(2)SU1

[http://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/i/templates/note.gif]
Note



If your release is not listed in the following table, find the upgrade path 
from your current release to a listed release in Cisco Unified Communications 
Manager Software Compatibility Matrix for Release 9.X and Earlier at 
http:/​/​www.cisco.com/​en/​US/​docs/​voice_ip_comm/​cucm/​compat/​ccmcompmatr1.pdf<http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr1.pdf>.




Table 15 Export Restricted Supported Cisco Unified Communications Manager 
Upgrades for Release 10.5(2)SU1


10.5(2)SU1


10.5.2.11900-3


Active


February 24, 2015


Direct Upgrade:

10.5(2), 10.5(1)SU1a, 10.5(1)SU1, 10.5(1), 10.0(1)SU2, 10.0(1)SU1, 10.0(1), 
9.1(2)SU2a, 9.1(2)S

Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

2015-04-20 Thread Justin Steinberg
Hi Adam,

Can you elaborate on this yet ?  :)I never see any PCD software posted
to cisco.com, it always seems to require E-delivery download. I'm not
sure why that is, since all the other Prime Collaboration (Provisioning 
Assurance) can be downloaded from cisco.com

Thanks,

Justin

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Adam Frankel (afrankel) 
afran...@cisco.com wrote:

  “Maybe an ability to leverage ISOs on VMWare datastores instead of from
 the PCD server. “



 …check cisco.com later this week or early next week J



 --

 Adam



 *From:* cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] *On Behalf
 Of *Heim, Dennis
 *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 9:16 AM
 *To:* Matthew Collins; Haas, Neal; 'Andrew Grech'; Nick

 *Cc:* Cisco VoIP Group
 *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5



 PCD is a great tool for single-site installs or upgrades in a lab
 environment. Biggest limitation of PCD when multisites are involved, since
 it pushes all ISOs from the PCD server. Maybe an ability to leverage ISOs
 on VMWare datastores instead of from the PCD server.



 *Dennis Heim | Emerging Technology Architect (Collaboration)*

 World Wide Technology, Inc. | +1 314-212-1814

 [image: twitter] https://twitter.com/CollabSensei

 [image: chat][image: Phone] +13142121814[image: video]

 Innovation happens on project squared -- http://www.projectsquared.com



 *Click here to join me in my Collaboration Meeting Room
 https://wwt.webex.com/meet/dennis.heim*







 *From:* cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net
 cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] *On Behalf Of *Matthew Collins
 *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 6:08 AM
 *To:* Haas, Neal; 'Andrew Grech'; Nick
 *Cc:* Cisco VoIP Group
 *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5



 Just a note on this.



 I have just completed a direct Hardware 8.5 to VM 10.5 with network
 changes using Prime collaboration deployment. No Cop files need to be
 installed, No jump upgrades, No restoring from backup. Really was a simple
 process.



 If you haven’t used PCD I would strongly suggest taking a look next time
 you upgrade or install a new build.



 Regards



 Matthew Collins





 *From:* cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net
 cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] *On Behalf Of *Haas, Neal
 *Sent:* 27 March 2015 14:41
 *To:* 'Andrew Grech'; Nick
 *Cc:* Cisco VoIP Group
 *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5



 10.5 is VM only, 8.6.1 usually was MCS hardware.



 To upgrade you will need to 8.6.1 upgrade to 9.1 on MCS. Then 9.1 MCS to
 VM, the upgrade 9.1 to 10.5(2)SU1.





 Neal Haas



 *From:* cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] *On Behalf
 Of *Andrew Grech
 *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 7:30 AM
 *To:* Nick
 *Cc:* Cisco VoIP Group
 *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5



 Supported vs the system will upgrade are two different things.

 On 27/03/2015 1:51 AM, Nick csv...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi All



 Just checking through documentation for CUCM 10.5 for an upgrade, the
 compatibility guide states that a direct upgrade is from 8.6.1 onwards as
 shown below.


   Upgrade Paths for Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release
 10.5(2)SU1



 *Note*


  --

 If your release is not listed in the following table, find the upgrade
 path from your current release to a listed release in Cisco Unified
 Communications Manager Software Compatibility Matrix for Release 9.X and
 Earlier at
 http:/​/​www.cisco.com/​en/​US/​docs/​voice_ip_comm/​cucm/​compat/​ccmcompmatr1.pdf
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr1.pdf.

  --





 Table 15 Export Restricted Supported Cisco Unified Communications Manager
 Upgrades for Release 10.5(2)SU1

 *10.5(2)SU1 *

 10.5.2.11900-3

 Active

 February 24, 2015

 Direct Upgrade:

 10.5(2), 10.5(1)SU1a, 10.5(1)SU1, 10.5(1), 10.0(1)SU2, 10.0(1)SU1,
 10.0(1), 9.1(2)SU2a, 9.1(2)SU2, 9.1(2)SU1, 9.1(2), 9.1(1a), 9.1(1), 9.0(1),

 8.6(2a)SU5, 8.6(2a)SU4a, 8.6(2a)SU4, 8.6(2a)SU3, 8.6(2a)SU2, 8.6(2a)SU1,
 8.6(2a),

 8.6(2), 8.6(1a), 8.6(1)

 Supported: (Consult the Cisco Unified Communications Manager Upgrade Guide
 for details)

 8.5.(1)SU7, 8.5.(1)SU6, 8.5(1)SU5, 8.5(1)SU4, 8.5(1)SU3, 8.5(1)SU2,

 8.5(1)SU1, 8.5(1), 8.0(3a)SU3, 8.0(3a)SU2, 8.0(3a)SU1, 8.0(3a),

 8.0(3), 8.0(2c)SU1, 8.0(2c), 8.0(2b), 8.0(2a), 8.0(2), 8.0(1),

 7.1(5b)SU6(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU5(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU4(restricted),

 7.1(5b)SU3(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU2(restricted), 7.1(5b)(restricted),

 7.1(5a)(restricted), 7.1(5)SU1a(restricted), 7.1(5)SU1(restricted),

 7.1(5)(restricted), 7.1(3b)SU2, 7.1(3b)SU1, 7.1(3b), 7.1(3a)SU1a,

 7.1(3a)SU1, 7.1(3a), 7.1(3), 6.1(5)SU3, 6.1(5)SU2, 6.1(5)SU1,

 6.1(5), 6.1(4a)SU2, 6.1(4a), 6.1(4)SU1, 6.1(4)



 However in the Read Me notes for 10.5.2 Su1 it states the following



  *Version and Description*

 This SU

Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

2015-04-13 Thread Adam Frankel (afrankel)
“Maybe an ability to leverage ISOs on VMWare datastores instead of from the PCD 
server. “

…check cisco.com later this week or early next week ☺

--
Adam

From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Heim, 
Dennis
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 9:16 AM
To: Matthew Collins; Haas, Neal; 'Andrew Grech'; Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

PCD is a great tool for single-site installs or upgrades in a lab environment. 
Biggest limitation of PCD when multisites are involved, since it pushes all 
ISOs from the PCD server. Maybe an ability to leverage ISOs on VMWare 
datastores instead of from the PCD server.

Dennis Heim | Emerging Technology Architect (Collaboration)
World Wide Technology, Inc. | +1 314-212-1814
[twitter]https://twitter.com/CollabSensei
[chat]xmpp:dennis.h...@wwt.com[Phone]tel:+13142121814[video]sip:dennis.h...@wwt.com
Innovation happens on project squared -- 
http://www.projectsquared.comhttp://www.projectsquared.com/

Click here to join me in my Collaboration Meeting 
Roomhttps://wwt.webex.com/meet/dennis.heim



From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
Matthew Collins
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 6:08 AM
To: Haas, Neal; 'Andrew Grech'; Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

Just a note on this.

I have just completed a direct Hardware 8.5 to VM 10.5 with network changes 
using Prime collaboration deployment. No Cop files need to be installed, No 
jump upgrades, No restoring from backup. Really was a simple process.

If you haven’t used PCD I would strongly suggest taking a look next time you 
upgrade or install a new build.

Regards

Matthew Collins


From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Haas, 
Neal
Sent: 27 March 2015 14:41
To: 'Andrew Grech'; Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

10.5 is VM only, 8.6.1 usually was MCS hardware.

To upgrade you will need to 8.6.1 upgrade to 9.1 on MCS. Then 9.1 MCS to VM, 
the upgrade 9.1 to 10.5(2)SU1.


Neal Haas

From: cisco-voip 
[mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net]mailto:[mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net]
 On Behalf Of Andrew Grech
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 7:30 AM
To: Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5


Supported vs the system will upgrade are two different things.
On 27/03/2015 1:51 AM, Nick 
csv...@googlemail.commailto:csv...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi All

Just checking through documentation for CUCM 10.5 for an upgrade, the 
compatibility guide states that a direct upgrade is from 8.6.1 onwards as shown 
below.

Upgrade Paths for Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 10.5(2)SU1

[http://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/i/templates/note.gif]
Note



If your release is not listed in the following table, find the upgrade path 
from your current release to a listed release in Cisco Unified Communications 
Manager Software Compatibility Matrix for Release 9.X and Earlier at 
http:/​/​www.cisco.com/​en/​US/​docs/​voice_ip_comm/​cucm/​compat/​ccmcompmatr1.pdfhttp://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr1.pdf.




Table 15 Export Restricted Supported Cisco Unified Communications Manager 
Upgrades for Release 10.5(2)SU1


10.5(2)SU1


10.5.2.11900-3


Active


February 24, 2015


Direct Upgrade:

10.5(2), 10.5(1)SU1a, 10.5(1)SU1, 10.5(1), 10.0(1)SU2, 10.0(1)SU1, 10.0(1), 
9.1(2)SU2a, 9.1(2)SU2, 9.1(2)SU1, 9.1(2), 9.1(1a), 9.1(1), 9.0(1),

8.6(2a)SU5, 8.6(2a)SU4a, 8.6(2a)SU4, 8.6(2a)SU3, 8.6(2a)SU2, 8.6(2a)SU1, 
8.6(2a),

8.6(2), 8.6(1a), 8.6(1)


Supported: (Consult the Cisco Unified Communications Manager Upgrade Guide for 
details)

8.5.(1)SU7, 8.5.(1)SU6, 8.5(1)SU5, 8.5(1)SU4, 8.5(1)SU3, 8.5(1)SU2,

8.5(1)SU1, 8.5(1), 8.0(3a)SU3, 8.0(3a)SU2, 8.0(3a)SU1, 8.0(3a),

8.0(3), 8.0(2c)SU1, 8.0(2c), 8.0(2b), 8.0(2a), 8.0(2), 8.0(1),

7.1(5b)SU6(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU5(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU4(restricted),

7.1(5b)SU3(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU2(restricted), 7.1(5b)(restricted),

7.1(5a)(restricted), 7.1(5)SU1a(restricted), 7.1(5)SU1(restricted),

7.1(5)(restricted), 7.1(3b)SU2, 7.1(3b)SU1, 7.1(3b), 7.1(3a)SU1a,

7.1(3a)SU1, 7.1(3a), 7.1(3), 6.1(5)SU3, 6.1(5)SU2, 6.1(5)SU1,

6.1(5), 6.1(4a)SU2, 6.1(4a), 6.1(4)SU1, 6.1(4)


However in the Read Me notes for 10.5.2 Su1 it states the following


 

Version and Description

This SU is a cumulative update that incorporates all of the fixes and changes 
from Cisco Unified Communications Manager 10.5(2) along with additional changes 
that are specific to this SU.

Note

You can only install this SU on Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 
6.1(4x), 6.1(5x), 7.1(3x), 7.1(5x), 8.0(x), 8.5(1x), 8.6(x), 9.0(x), 9.1(x), 
10.0(1), 10.5(1), or 10.5(2) This SU will not install over any 10.5(2)ES’s. 
Upgrades from 6x, 7x, 8.x, and 9.x

Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

2015-04-11 Thread Daniel Pagan
I’m digging up an old thread here (perhaps because of tender pain points) but 
the point you made about multi-site is spot on, Dennis… especially if the 
remote location’s connectivity to the PCD’s site is less than ideal. In this 
type of scenario, one can encounter issues with PCD where a migration task 
incorrectly reports failure on the installation step for a migration due to 
delays in the CUCM installation and PCDs built-in timers (e.g. a 60m wait time 
before determining a migrated host is unreachable).

When granular control is needed in a large cluster spanning multiple locations, 
PCD starts to show its limitations but I’m hoping additional features are added 
that focus on how PCD recovers from certain failures when multiple nodes are 
grouped within individual install/migrate steps.

- Dan

From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Heim, 
Dennis
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 9:16 AM
To: Matthew Collins; Haas, Neal; 'Andrew Grech'; Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

PCD is a great tool for single-site installs or upgrades in a lab environment. 
Biggest limitation of PCD when multisites are involved, since it pushes all 
ISOs from the PCD server. Maybe an ability to leverage ISOs on VMWare 
datastores instead of from the PCD server.

Dennis Heim | Emerging Technology Architect (Collaboration)
World Wide Technology, Inc. | +1 314-212-1814
[twitter]https://twitter.com/CollabSensei
[chat]xmpp:dennis.h...@wwt.com[Phone]tel:+13142121814[video]sip:dennis.h...@wwt.com
Innovation happens on project squared -- 
http://www.projectsquared.comhttp://www.projectsquared.com/

Click here to join me in my Collaboration Meeting 
Roomhttps://wwt.webex.com/meet/dennis.heim



From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
Matthew Collins
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 6:08 AM
To: Haas, Neal; 'Andrew Grech'; Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

Just a note on this.

I have just completed a direct Hardware 8.5 to VM 10.5 with network changes 
using Prime collaboration deployment. No Cop files need to be installed, No 
jump upgrades, No restoring from backup. Really was a simple process.

If you haven’t used PCD I would strongly suggest taking a look next time you 
upgrade or install a new build.

Regards

Matthew Collins


From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Haas, 
Neal
Sent: 27 March 2015 14:41
To: 'Andrew Grech'; Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

10.5 is VM only, 8.6.1 usually was MCS hardware.

To upgrade you will need to 8.6.1 upgrade to 9.1 on MCS. Then 9.1 MCS to VM, 
the upgrade 9.1 to 10.5(2)SU1.


Neal Haas

From: cisco-voip 
[mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net]mailto:[mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net]
 On Behalf Of Andrew Grech
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 7:30 AM
To: Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5


Supported vs the system will upgrade are two different things.
On 27/03/2015 1:51 AM, Nick 
csv...@googlemail.commailto:csv...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi All

Just checking through documentation for CUCM 10.5 for an upgrade, the 
compatibility guide states that a direct upgrade is from 8.6.1 onwards as shown 
below.

Upgrade Paths for Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 10.5(2)SU1

[http://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/i/templates/note.gif]
Note



If your release is not listed in the following table, find the upgrade path 
from your current release to a listed release in Cisco Unified Communications 
Manager Software Compatibility Matrix for Release 9.X and Earlier at 
http:/​/​www.cisco.com/​en/​US/​docs/​voice_ip_comm/​cucm/​compat/​ccmcompmatr1.pdfhttp://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr1.pdf.




Table 15 Export Restricted Supported Cisco Unified Communications Manager 
Upgrades for Release 10.5(2)SU1


10.5(2)SU1


10.5.2.11900-3


Active


February 24, 2015


Direct Upgrade:

10.5(2), 10.5(1)SU1a, 10.5(1)SU1, 10.5(1), 10.0(1)SU2, 10.0(1)SU1, 10.0(1), 
9.1(2)SU2a, 9.1(2)SU2, 9.1(2)SU1, 9.1(2), 9.1(1a), 9.1(1), 9.0(1),

8.6(2a)SU5, 8.6(2a)SU4a, 8.6(2a)SU4, 8.6(2a)SU3, 8.6(2a)SU2, 8.6(2a)SU1, 
8.6(2a),

8.6(2), 8.6(1a), 8.6(1)


Supported: (Consult the Cisco Unified Communications Manager Upgrade Guide for 
details)

8.5.(1)SU7, 8.5.(1)SU6, 8.5(1)SU5, 8.5(1)SU4, 8.5(1)SU3, 8.5(1)SU2,

8.5(1)SU1, 8.5(1), 8.0(3a)SU3, 8.0(3a)SU2, 8.0(3a)SU1, 8.0(3a),

8.0(3), 8.0(2c)SU1, 8.0(2c), 8.0(2b), 8.0(2a), 8.0(2), 8.0(1),

7.1(5b)SU6(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU5(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU4(restricted),

7.1(5b)SU3(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU2(restricted), 7.1(5b)(restricted),

7.1(5a)(restricted), 7.1(5)SU1a(restricted), 7.1(5)SU1(restricted),

7.1(5)(restricted), 7.1(3b)SU2, 7.1(3b)SU1, 7.1(3b), 7.1(3a)SU1a,

7.1(3a)SU1, 7.1

Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

2015-04-11 Thread Jason Aarons (AM)
I just want to see what is going on.  I like having a window knowing exactly 
what it’s doing under the covers.  Sort of like Java.  In Java you can pull up 
the console if you really want to know.

From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
Daniel Pagan
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 11:44 AM
To: Heim, Dennis; Matthew Collins; Haas, Neal; 'Andrew Grech'; Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5


I’m digging up an old thread here (perhaps because of tender pain points) but 
the point you made about multi-site is spot on, Dennis… especially if the 
remote location’s connectivity to the PCD’s site is less than ideal. In this 
type of scenario, one can encounter issues with PCD where a migration task 
incorrectly reports failure on the installation step for a migration due to 
delays in the CUCM installation and PCDs built-in timers (e.g. a 60m wait time 
before determining a migrated host is unreachable).

When granular control is needed in a large cluster spanning multiple locations, 
PCD starts to show its limitations but I’m hoping additional features are added 
that focus on how PCD recovers from certain failures when multiple nodes are 
grouped within individual install/migrate steps.

- Dan

From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Heim, 
Dennis
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 9:16 AM
To: Matthew Collins; Haas, Neal; 'Andrew Grech'; Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

PCD is a great tool for single-site installs or upgrades in a lab environment. 
Biggest limitation of PCD when multisites are involved, since it pushes all 
ISOs from the PCD server. Maybe an ability to leverage ISOs on VMWare 
datastores instead of from the PCD server.

Dennis Heim | Emerging Technology Architect (Collaboration)
World Wide Technology, Inc. | +1 314-212-1814
[twitter]https://twitter.com/CollabSensei
[chat]xmpp:dennis.h...@wwt.com[Phone]tel:+13142121814[video]sip:dennis.h...@wwt.com
Innovation happens on project squared -- 
http://www.projectsquared.comhttp://www.projectsquared.com/

Click here to join me in my Collaboration Meeting 
Roomhttps://wwt.webex.com/meet/dennis.heim



From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
Matthew Collins
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 6:08 AM
To: Haas, Neal; 'Andrew Grech'; Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

Just a note on this.

I have just completed a direct Hardware 8.5 to VM 10.5 with network changes 
using Prime collaboration deployment. No Cop files need to be installed, No 
jump upgrades, No restoring from backup. Really was a simple process.

If you haven’t used PCD I would strongly suggest taking a look next time you 
upgrade or install a new build.

Regards

Matthew Collins


From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Haas, 
Neal
Sent: 27 March 2015 14:41
To: 'Andrew Grech'; Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

10.5 is VM only, 8.6.1 usually was MCS hardware.

To upgrade you will need to 8.6.1 upgrade to 9.1 on MCS. Then 9.1 MCS to VM, 
the upgrade 9.1 to 10.5(2)SU1.


Neal Haas

From: cisco-voip 
[mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net]mailto:[mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net]
 On Behalf Of Andrew Grech
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 7:30 AM
To: Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5


Supported vs the system will upgrade are two different things.
On 27/03/2015 1:51 AM, Nick 
csv...@googlemail.commailto:csv...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi All

Just checking through documentation for CUCM 10.5 for an upgrade, the 
compatibility guide states that a direct upgrade is from 8.6.1 onwards as shown 
below.

Upgrade Paths for Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 10.5(2)SU1

[http://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/i/templates/note.gif]
Note



If your release is not listed in the following table, find the upgrade path 
from your current release to a listed release in Cisco Unified Communications 
Manager Software Compatibility Matrix for Release 9.X and Earlier at 
http:/​/​www.cisco.com/​en/​US/​docs/​voice_ip_comm/​cucm/​compat/​ccmcompmatr1.pdfhttp://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr1.pdf.




Table 15 Export Restricted Supported Cisco Unified Communications Manager 
Upgrades for Release 10.5(2)SU1


10.5(2)SU1


10.5.2.11900-3


Active


February 24, 2015


Direct Upgrade:

10.5(2), 10.5(1)SU1a, 10.5(1)SU1, 10.5(1), 10.0(1)SU2, 10.0(1)SU1, 10.0(1), 
9.1(2)SU2a, 9.1(2)SU2, 9.1(2)SU1, 9.1(2), 9.1(1a), 9.1(1), 9.0(1),

8.6(2a)SU5, 8.6(2a)SU4a, 8.6(2a)SU4, 8.6(2a)SU3, 8.6(2a)SU2, 8.6(2a)SU1, 
8.6(2a),

8.6(2), 8.6(1a), 8.6(1)


Supported: (Consult the Cisco Unified Communications Manager Upgrade Guide for 
details)

8.5.(1)SU7, 8.5

Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

2015-04-11 Thread Daniel Pagan
Same. Check out the UCMap logs – lots of useful information on what PCD is 
doing behind the scenes in these logs. You’ll find them stored under the 
/tomcat/logs/ucmap/ directory via CLI. I’ve been able to gather lots of 
detailed info on the steps being taken for migration tasks. Combine that with a 
WinSCP session into PCD (browse through /export sub directories…) and a person 
can really get more detailed information than what’s offered in documentation.

- Dan

From: Jason Aarons (AM) [mailto:jason.aar...@dimensiondata.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 11:49 AM
To: Daniel Pagan; Heim, Dennis; Matthew Collins; Haas, Neal; 'Andrew Grech'; 
Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

I just want to see what is going on.  I like having a window knowing exactly 
what it’s doing under the covers.  Sort of like Java.  In Java you can pull up 
the console if you really want to know.

From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
Daniel Pagan
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 11:44 AM
To: Heim, Dennis; Matthew Collins; Haas, Neal; 'Andrew Grech'; Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5


I’m digging up an old thread here (perhaps because of tender pain points) but 
the point you made about multi-site is spot on, Dennis… especially if the 
remote location’s connectivity to the PCD’s site is less than ideal. In this 
type of scenario, one can encounter issues with PCD where a migration task 
incorrectly reports failure on the installation step for a migration due to 
delays in the CUCM installation and PCDs built-in timers (e.g. a 60m wait time 
before determining a migrated host is unreachable).

When granular control is needed in a large cluster spanning multiple locations, 
PCD starts to show its limitations but I’m hoping additional features are added 
that focus on how PCD recovers from certain failures when multiple nodes are 
grouped within individual install/migrate steps.

- Dan

From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Heim, 
Dennis
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 9:16 AM
To: Matthew Collins; Haas, Neal; 'Andrew Grech'; Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

PCD is a great tool for single-site installs or upgrades in a lab environment. 
Biggest limitation of PCD when multisites are involved, since it pushes all 
ISOs from the PCD server. Maybe an ability to leverage ISOs on VMWare 
datastores instead of from the PCD server.

Dennis Heim | Emerging Technology Architect (Collaboration)
World Wide Technology, Inc. | +1 314-212-1814
[twitter]https://twitter.com/CollabSensei
[chat]xmpp:dennis.h...@wwt.com[Phone]tel:+13142121814[video]sip:dennis.h...@wwt.com
Innovation happens on project squared -- 
http://www.projectsquared.comhttp://www.projectsquared.com/

Click here to join me in my Collaboration Meeting 
Roomhttps://wwt.webex.com/meet/dennis.heim



From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
Matthew Collins
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 6:08 AM
To: Haas, Neal; 'Andrew Grech'; Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

Just a note on this.

I have just completed a direct Hardware 8.5 to VM 10.5 with network changes 
using Prime collaboration deployment. No Cop files need to be installed, No 
jump upgrades, No restoring from backup. Really was a simple process.

If you haven’t used PCD I would strongly suggest taking a look next time you 
upgrade or install a new build.

Regards

Matthew Collins


From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Haas, 
Neal
Sent: 27 March 2015 14:41
To: 'Andrew Grech'; Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

10.5 is VM only, 8.6.1 usually was MCS hardware.

To upgrade you will need to 8.6.1 upgrade to 9.1 on MCS. Then 9.1 MCS to VM, 
the upgrade 9.1 to 10.5(2)SU1.


Neal Haas

From: cisco-voip 
[mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net]mailto:[mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net]
 On Behalf Of Andrew Grech
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 7:30 AM
To: Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5


Supported vs the system will upgrade are two different things.
On 27/03/2015 1:51 AM, Nick 
csv...@googlemail.commailto:csv...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi All

Just checking through documentation for CUCM 10.5 for an upgrade, the 
compatibility guide states that a direct upgrade is from 8.6.1 onwards as shown 
below.

Upgrade Paths for Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 10.5(2)SU1

[http://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/i/templates/note.gif]
Note



If your release is not listed in the following table, find the upgrade path 
from your current release to a listed release in Cisco Unified Communications 
Manager Software Compatibility Matrix for Release 9.X and Earlier at 
http

Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

2015-03-30 Thread Nick
Hi All

Thanks for your responses, I should have been more clear, I was referring
to a virtualised install on UCS servers already. I have always followed the
compatibility matrix and recently upgraded a 8.5.1 on UCS to 10.5 using an
interim step of 9.1.2, however my colleague then claimed he had tested in a
lab upgrade direct from 8.5 to 10.5.2 SU1 and pointed me to the second
section in my original email Version and Description which is taken from
the 10.5.2 SU1 release notes.

Now looking at the PCD notes that Dan has put in the link, I can see it
states the following

Upgrading from Releases 6.1(5), 7.1(3), 7.1(5), 8.0(1-3), 8.5(1), 8.6(1-2),
9.0(1), 9.1(1-2)

   1. If you currently have Releases 6.1(5), 7.1(3), 7.1(5), 8.0(1–3),
   8.5(1), 8.6(1–2), 9.0(1), 9.1(1–2) installed, you do not need to upgrade to
   an intermediate release. Complete the migration in the following stages:

So I guess the question is this also supported on a traditional style
upgrade already on UCS or just when using PCD?

Obviously with changing OVA specs etc, prior to upgrade.

On 27 March 2015 at 15:39, Daniel Pagan dpa...@fidelus.com wrote:

  Adding to Neal’s comments, you might find the following documentation
 helpful:



 *Cisco Live: Best Practices for Migrating to CUCM 10.5*


 https://clnv.s3.amazonaws.com/2014%2Fusa%2Fpdf%2FBRKUCC-2011.pdf?Expires=1427481707AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJO3XQSJMRXKWDHZQSignature=ZqJonKRBn4Tlw9mXHoxg7d9RUUY%3D



 *The first few sections in this doc might be helpful as well.*


 http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/ucmapMigrate/10_5_1/CUCM_BK_M24251C0_00_migrate-procedure-for-cucm_1051/CUCM_BK_M24251C0_00_migrate-procedure-for-cucm_1051_chapter_01.html



 As Neal mentioned, you have to keep in mind that 10.5 is VM only and,
 while a direct RU upgrade from 8.5 to 10.5 is possible, you also need to
 consider the hardware requirements of 10.5 as well. Check out the 10.5 OVA
 specifications here:



 http://www.cisco.com/web/software/283088407/112975/cucm.ova.README.txt



 *But to the steps mentioned below, this description sounds more like a
 Jump Upgrade procedure, which I understand is only required when upgrading
 from CUCM 6.x/7.1(5), not CUCM 8.5.*



 So for the 8.5 to 10.5 upgrade – It seems the most straight forward
 method, assuming you’re on an MCS server, would be to



 1)  DRS restore your 8.5 cluster to a virtualized environment built
 out on a v8.5 OVA template.

 ++ I’ve read that 8.5 won’t install on a v10 OVA template. Have I tried
 this myself? No. Should easy enough to test though. If it doesn’t, I’d
 imagine it’s due to disk sizing requirements for the user node specs.

 2)  Use LCU to gather your license information pre-upgrade

 3)  Refresh Upgrade from virtual 8.5 on UCS directly to 10.5 manually
 without PCD – requires the keys.cop and refresh_upgrade files. Last I
 checked you cannot upgrade from 8.5 to 10.5 via PCD.

 ++ I’d suggest reviewing the v10 OVA readme file and make sure you’re
 virtual machine specs and reservations are sufficient for the upgrade.
 Update if necessary – careful with disk resizing – there’s a recent thread
 on this topic alone.

 4)  Submit a license request gathered from PLM – you’ll have a 60 day
 grace period.

 ++ At this point you should be on 10.5 with proper CPU and memory
 specifications and reservations, but your virtual disks will still be the
 8.5 provisioned specs. Having 2x80GB drives on CUCM 10.5 is supported and
 it runs just fine.



 My suggestion would be to review all the migration and upgrade
 documentation you can find and review it. This might also help:



 *MCS to UCS – Slides 70 and higher might be most helpful:*

 http://stor.balios.net/Live2012/BRKUCC-2011.pdf



 Also keep in mind that live MOH audio sources via USB are not supported in
 10.5 – you’ll need an alternate, IOS based solution for this.



 Another caveat to keep in mind is Unity Connection and AXL synchronization
 – this will break unless you’re on Unity Connection 8.6 SU5 or a higher ES.
 If you patch to 8.6SU5 then be aware of CSCuq63776 – it’s pretty critical
 and you’re pretty much guaranteed to hit this after a SU5 patch. The latest
 CUC ES is 163 and includes a fix for this defect in addition to the BASH
 vulnerability patch and the fix for AXL.



 I hope someone corrects any mistakes I made above and hope this helps.



 - Dan







 *From:* cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] *On Behalf
 Of *Haas, Neal
 *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 10:41 AM
 *To:* 'Andrew Grech'; Nick
 *Cc:* Cisco VoIP Group
 *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5



 10.5 is VM only, 8.6.1 usually was MCS hardware.



 To upgrade you will need to 8.6.1 upgrade to 9.1 on MCS. Then 9.1 MCS to
 VM, the upgrade 9.1 to 10.5(2)SU1.





 Neal Haas



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Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

2015-03-30 Thread Matthew Collins
Just a note on this.

I have just completed a direct Hardware 8.5 to VM 10.5 with network changes 
using Prime collaboration deployment. No Cop files need to be installed, No 
jump upgrades, No restoring from backup. Really was a simple process.

If you haven’t used PCD I would strongly suggest taking a look next time you 
upgrade or install a new build.

Regards

Matthew Collins


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Neal
Sent: 27 March 2015 14:41
To: 'Andrew Grech'; Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

10.5 is VM only, 8.6.1 usually was MCS hardware.

To upgrade you will need to 8.6.1 upgrade to 9.1 on MCS. Then 9.1 MCS to VM, 
the upgrade 9.1 to 10.5(2)SU1.


Neal Haas

From: cisco-voip 
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To: Nick
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5


Supported vs the system will upgrade are two different things.
On 27/03/2015 1:51 AM, Nick 
csv...@googlemail.commailto:csv...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi All

Just checking through documentation for CUCM 10.5 for an upgrade, the 
compatibility guide states that a direct upgrade is from 8.6.1 onwards as shown 
below.

Upgrade Paths for Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 10.5(2)SU1

[http://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/i/templates/note.gif]
Note



If your release is not listed in the following table, find the upgrade path 
from your current release to a listed release in Cisco Unified Communications 
Manager Software Compatibility Matrix for Release 9.X and Earlier at 
http:/​/​www.cisco.com/​en/​US/​docs/​voice_ip_comm/​cucm/​compat/​ccmcompmatr1.pdfhttp://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr1.pdf.



Table 15 Export Restricted Supported Cisco Unified Communications Manager 
Upgrades for Release 10.5(2)SU1


10.5(2)SU1


10.5.2.11900-3


Active


February 24, 2015


Direct Upgrade:

10.5(2), 10.5(1)SU1a, 10.5(1)SU1, 10.5(1), 10.0(1)SU2, 10.0(1)SU1, 10.0(1), 
9.1(2)SU2a, 9.1(2)SU2, 9.1(2)SU1, 9.1(2), 9.1(1a), 9.1(1), 9.0(1),

8.6(2a)SU5, 8.6(2a)SU4a, 8.6(2a)SU4, 8.6(2a)SU3, 8.6(2a)SU2, 8.6(2a)SU1, 
8.6(2a),

8.6(2), 8.6(1a), 8.6(1)


Supported: (Consult the Cisco Unified Communications Manager Upgrade Guide for 
details)

8.5.(1)SU7, 8.5.(1)SU6, 8.5(1)SU5, 8.5(1)SU4, 8.5(1)SU3, 8.5(1)SU2,

8.5(1)SU1, 8.5(1), 8.0(3a)SU3, 8.0(3a)SU2, 8.0(3a)SU1, 8.0(3a),

8.0(3), 8.0(2c)SU1, 8.0(2c), 8.0(2b), 8.0(2a), 8.0(2), 8.0(1),

7.1(5b)SU6(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU5(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU4(restricted),

7.1(5b)SU3(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU2(restricted), 7.1(5b)(restricted),

7.1(5a)(restricted), 7.1(5)SU1a(restricted), 7.1(5)SU1(restricted),

7.1(5)(restricted), 7.1(3b)SU2, 7.1(3b)SU1, 7.1(3b), 7.1(3a)SU1a,

7.1(3a)SU1, 7.1(3a), 7.1(3), 6.1(5)SU3, 6.1(5)SU2, 6.1(5)SU1,

6.1(5), 6.1(4a)SU2, 6.1(4a), 6.1(4)SU1, 6.1(4)


However in the Read Me notes for 10.5.2 Su1 it states the following


 

Version and Description

This SU is a cumulative update that incorporates all of the fixes and changes 
from Cisco Unified Communications Manager 10.5(2) along with additional changes 
that are specific to this SU.

Note

You can only install this SU on Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 
6.1(4x), 6.1(5x), 7.1(3x), 7.1(5x), 8.0(x), 8.5(1x), 8.6(x), 9.0(x), 9.1(x), 
10.0(1), 10.5(1), or 10.5(2) This SU will not install over any 10.5(2)ES’s. 
Upgrades from 6x, 7x, 8.x, and 9.x need to be requested via PUT 
(www.cisco.com/upgradehttp://www.cisco.com/upgrade) to obtain the necessary 
license. This SU should not be installed on a Business Edition 3000 server.

I would normally always go with what is says in the compatibility matrix, 
however my colleague has just done an upgrade albeit in a lab from 8.5.1 direct 
to 10.5.2 SU1.

Anyone know if he just got lucky or if that is now supported?

Regards

Nick




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Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

2015-03-30 Thread Heim, Dennis
PCD is a great tool for single-site installs or upgrades in a lab environment. 
Biggest limitation of PCD when multisites are involved, since it pushes all 
ISOs from the PCD server. Maybe an ability to leverage ISOs on VMWare 
datastores instead of from the PCD server.

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From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
Matthew Collins
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 6:08 AM
To: Haas, Neal; 'Andrew Grech'; Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

Just a note on this.

I have just completed a direct Hardware 8.5 to VM 10.5 with network changes 
using Prime collaboration deployment. No Cop files need to be installed, No 
jump upgrades, No restoring from backup. Really was a simple process.

If you haven’t used PCD I would strongly suggest taking a look next time you 
upgrade or install a new build.

Regards

Matthew Collins


From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Haas, 
Neal
Sent: 27 March 2015 14:41
To: 'Andrew Grech'; Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

10.5 is VM only, 8.6.1 usually was MCS hardware.

To upgrade you will need to 8.6.1 upgrade to 9.1 on MCS. Then 9.1 MCS to VM, 
the upgrade 9.1 to 10.5(2)SU1.


Neal Haas

From: cisco-voip 
[mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net]mailto:[mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net]
 On Behalf Of Andrew Grech
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 7:30 AM
To: Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5


Supported vs the system will upgrade are two different things.
On 27/03/2015 1:51 AM, Nick 
csv...@googlemail.commailto:csv...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi All

Just checking through documentation for CUCM 10.5 for an upgrade, the 
compatibility guide states that a direct upgrade is from 8.6.1 onwards as shown 
below.

Upgrade Paths for Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 10.5(2)SU1

[http://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/i/templates/note.gif]
Note



If your release is not listed in the following table, find the upgrade path 
from your current release to a listed release in Cisco Unified Communications 
Manager Software Compatibility Matrix for Release 9.X and Earlier at 
http:/​/​www.cisco.com/​en/​US/​docs/​voice_ip_comm/​cucm/​compat/​ccmcompmatr1.pdfhttp://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr1.pdf.




Table 15 Export Restricted Supported Cisco Unified Communications Manager 
Upgrades for Release 10.5(2)SU1


10.5(2)SU1


10.5.2.11900-3


Active


February 24, 2015


Direct Upgrade:

10.5(2), 10.5(1)SU1a, 10.5(1)SU1, 10.5(1), 10.0(1)SU2, 10.0(1)SU1, 10.0(1), 
9.1(2)SU2a, 9.1(2)SU2, 9.1(2)SU1, 9.1(2), 9.1(1a), 9.1(1), 9.0(1),

8.6(2a)SU5, 8.6(2a)SU4a, 8.6(2a)SU4, 8.6(2a)SU3, 8.6(2a)SU2, 8.6(2a)SU1, 
8.6(2a),

8.6(2), 8.6(1a), 8.6(1)


Supported: (Consult the Cisco Unified Communications Manager Upgrade Guide for 
details)

8.5.(1)SU7, 8.5.(1)SU6, 8.5(1)SU5, 8.5(1)SU4, 8.5(1)SU3, 8.5(1)SU2,

8.5(1)SU1, 8.5(1), 8.0(3a)SU3, 8.0(3a)SU2, 8.0(3a)SU1, 8.0(3a),

8.0(3), 8.0(2c)SU1, 8.0(2c), 8.0(2b), 8.0(2a), 8.0(2), 8.0(1),

7.1(5b)SU6(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU5(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU4(restricted),

7.1(5b)SU3(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU2(restricted), 7.1(5b)(restricted),

7.1(5a)(restricted), 7.1(5)SU1a(restricted), 7.1(5)SU1(restricted),

7.1(5)(restricted), 7.1(3b)SU2, 7.1(3b)SU1, 7.1(3b), 7.1(3a)SU1a,

7.1(3a)SU1, 7.1(3a), 7.1(3), 6.1(5)SU3, 6.1(5)SU2, 6.1(5)SU1,

6.1(5), 6.1(4a)SU2, 6.1(4a), 6.1(4)SU1, 6.1(4)


However in the Read Me notes for 10.5.2 Su1 it states the following


 

Version and Description

This SU is a cumulative update that incorporates all of the fixes and changes 
from Cisco Unified Communications Manager 10.5(2) along with additional changes 
that are specific to this SU.

Note

You can only install this SU on Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 
6.1(4x), 6.1(5x), 7.1(3x), 7.1(5x), 8.0(x), 8.5(1x), 8.6(x), 9.0(x), 9.1(x), 
10.0(1), 10.5(1), or 10.5(2) This SU will not install over any 10.5(2)ES’s. 
Upgrades from 6x, 7x, 8.x, and 9.x need to be requested via PUT 
(www.cisco.com/upgradehttp://www.cisco.com/upgrade) to obtain the necessary 
license. This SU should not be installed on a Business Edition 3000 server.

I would normally always go with what is says in the compatibility matrix, 
however my colleague has just done an upgrade albeit in a lab from 8.5.1 direct 
to 10.5.2 SU1.

Anyone know if he just got lucky or if that is now

Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

2015-03-27 Thread Andrew Grech
Supported vs the system will upgrade are two different things.
On 27/03/2015 1:51 AM, Nick csv...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi All

 Just checking through documentation for CUCM 10.5 for an upgrade, the
 compatibility guide states that a direct upgrade is from 8.6.1 onwards as
 shown below.

 Upgrade Paths for Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 10.5(2)SU1

 *Note*
 --
 If your release is not listed in the following table, find the upgrade
 path from your current release to a listed release in Cisco Unified
 Communications Manager Software Compatibility Matrix for Release 9.X and
 Earlier at
 http:/​/​www.cisco.com/​en/​US/​docs/​voice_ip_comm/​cucm/​compat/​ccmcompmatr1.pdf
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr1.pdf.

 --
 Table 15 Export Restricted Supported Cisco Unified Communications Manager
 Upgrades for Release 10.5(2)SU1

 10.5(2)SU1

 10.5.2.11900-3

 Active

 February 24, 2015

 Direct Upgrade:

 10.5(2), 10.5(1)SU1a, 10.5(1)SU1, 10.5(1), 10.0(1)SU2, 10.0(1)SU1,
 10.0(1), 9.1(2)SU2a, 9.1(2)SU2, 9.1(2)SU1, 9.1(2), 9.1(1a), 9.1(1), 9.0(1),

 8.6(2a)SU5, 8.6(2a)SU4a, 8.6(2a)SU4, 8.6(2a)SU3, 8.6(2a)SU2, 8.6(2a)SU1,
 8.6(2a),

 8.6(2), 8.6(1a), 8.6(1)

 Supported: (Consult the Cisco Unified Communications Manager Upgrade Guide
 for details)

 8.5.(1)SU7, 8.5.(1)SU6, 8.5(1)SU5, 8.5(1)SU4, 8.5(1)SU3, 8.5(1)SU2,

 8.5(1)SU1, 8.5(1), 8.0(3a)SU3, 8.0(3a)SU2, 8.0(3a)SU1, 8.0(3a),

 8.0(3), 8.0(2c)SU1, 8.0(2c), 8.0(2b), 8.0(2a), 8.0(2), 8.0(1),

 7.1(5b)SU6(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU5(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU4(restricted),

 7.1(5b)SU3(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU2(restricted), 7.1(5b)(restricted),

 7.1(5a)(restricted), 7.1(5)SU1a(restricted), 7.1(5)SU1(restricted),

 7.1(5)(restricted), 7.1(3b)SU2, 7.1(3b)SU1, 7.1(3b), 7.1(3a)SU1a,

 7.1(3a)SU1, 7.1(3a), 7.1(3), 6.1(5)SU3, 6.1(5)SU2, 6.1(5)SU1,

 6.1(5), 6.1(4a)SU2, 6.1(4a), 6.1(4)SU1, 6.1(4)

 However in the Read Me notes for 10.5.2 Su1 it states the following


  *Version and Description*

 This SU is a cumulative update that incorporates all of the fixes and
 changes from Cisco Unified Communications Manager 10.5(2) along with
 additional changes that are specific to this SU.

 *Note*

 You can only install this SU on Cisco Unified Communications Manager
 Release 6.1(4x), 6.1(5x), 7.1(3x), 7.1(5x), 8.0(x), 8.5(1x), 8.6(x),
 9.0(x), 9.1(x), 10.0(1), 10.5(1), or 10.5(2) This SU will not install over
 any 10.5(2)ES’s. Upgrades from 6x, 7x, 8.x, and 9.x need to be requested
 via PUT (www.cisco.com/upgrade) to obtain the necessary license. This SU
 should not be installed on a Business Edition 3000 server.

 I would normally always go with what is says in the compatibility matrix,
 however my colleague has just done an upgrade albeit in a lab from 8.5.1
 direct to 10.5.2 SU1.

 Anyone know if he just got lucky or if that is now supported?

 Regards

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Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

2015-03-27 Thread Haas, Neal
10.5 is VM only, 8.6.1 usually was MCS hardware.

To upgrade you will need to 8.6.1 upgrade to 9.1 on MCS. Then 9.1 MCS to VM, 
the upgrade 9.1 to 10.5(2)SU1.


Neal Haas

From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
Andrew Grech
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 7:30 AM
To: Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5


Supported vs the system will upgrade are two different things.
On 27/03/2015 1:51 AM, Nick 
csv...@googlemail.commailto:csv...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi All

Just checking through documentation for CUCM 10.5 for an upgrade, the 
compatibility guide states that a direct upgrade is from 8.6.1 onwards as shown 
below.

Upgrade Paths for Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 10.5(2)SU1

[http://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/i/templates/note.gif]
Note



If your release is not listed in the following table, find the upgrade path 
from your current release to a listed release in Cisco Unified Communications 
Manager Software Compatibility Matrix for Release 9.X and Earlier at 
http:/​/​www.cisco.com/​en/​US/​docs/​voice_ip_comm/​cucm/​compat/​ccmcompmatr1.pdfhttp://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr1.pdf.



Table 15 Export Restricted Supported Cisco Unified Communications Manager 
Upgrades for Release 10.5(2)SU1


10.5(2)SU1


10.5.2.11900-3


Active


February 24, 2015


Direct Upgrade:

10.5(2), 10.5(1)SU1a, 10.5(1)SU1, 10.5(1), 10.0(1)SU2, 10.0(1)SU1, 10.0(1), 
9.1(2)SU2a, 9.1(2)SU2, 9.1(2)SU1, 9.1(2), 9.1(1a), 9.1(1), 9.0(1),

8.6(2a)SU5, 8.6(2a)SU4a, 8.6(2a)SU4, 8.6(2a)SU3, 8.6(2a)SU2, 8.6(2a)SU1, 
8.6(2a),

8.6(2), 8.6(1a), 8.6(1)


Supported: (Consult the Cisco Unified Communications Manager Upgrade Guide for 
details)

8.5.(1)SU7, 8.5.(1)SU6, 8.5(1)SU5, 8.5(1)SU4, 8.5(1)SU3, 8.5(1)SU2,

8.5(1)SU1, 8.5(1), 8.0(3a)SU3, 8.0(3a)SU2, 8.0(3a)SU1, 8.0(3a),

8.0(3), 8.0(2c)SU1, 8.0(2c), 8.0(2b), 8.0(2a), 8.0(2), 8.0(1),

7.1(5b)SU6(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU5(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU4(restricted),

7.1(5b)SU3(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU2(restricted), 7.1(5b)(restricted),

7.1(5a)(restricted), 7.1(5)SU1a(restricted), 7.1(5)SU1(restricted),

7.1(5)(restricted), 7.1(3b)SU2, 7.1(3b)SU1, 7.1(3b), 7.1(3a)SU1a,

7.1(3a)SU1, 7.1(3a), 7.1(3), 6.1(5)SU3, 6.1(5)SU2, 6.1(5)SU1,

6.1(5), 6.1(4a)SU2, 6.1(4a), 6.1(4)SU1, 6.1(4)


However in the Read Me notes for 10.5.2 Su1 it states the following


 

Version and Description

This SU is a cumulative update that incorporates all of the fixes and changes 
from Cisco Unified Communications Manager 10.5(2) along with additional changes 
that are specific to this SU.

Note

You can only install this SU on Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 
6.1(4x), 6.1(5x), 7.1(3x), 7.1(5x), 8.0(x), 8.5(1x), 8.6(x), 9.0(x), 9.1(x), 
10.0(1), 10.5(1), or 10.5(2) This SU will not install over any 10.5(2)ES’s. 
Upgrades from 6x, 7x, 8.x, and 9.x need to be requested via PUT 
(www.cisco.com/upgradehttp://www.cisco.com/upgrade) to obtain the necessary 
license. This SU should not be installed on a Business Edition 3000 server.

I would normally always go with what is says in the compatibility matrix, 
however my colleague has just done an upgrade albeit in a lab from 8.5.1 direct 
to 10.5.2 SU1.

Anyone know if he just got lucky or if that is now supported?

Regards

Nick




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Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

2015-03-27 Thread Daniel Pagan
Adding to Neal’s comments, you might find the following documentation helpful:

Cisco Live: Best Practices for Migrating to CUCM 10.5
https://clnv.s3.amazonaws.com/2014%2Fusa%2Fpdf%2FBRKUCC-2011.pdf?Expires=1427481707AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJO3XQSJMRXKWDHZQSignature=ZqJonKRBn4Tlw9mXHoxg7d9RUUY%3D

The first few sections in this doc might be helpful as well.
http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/ucmapMigrate/10_5_1/CUCM_BK_M24251C0_00_migrate-procedure-for-cucm_1051/CUCM_BK_M24251C0_00_migrate-procedure-for-cucm_1051_chapter_01.html

As Neal mentioned, you have to keep in mind that 10.5 is VM only and, while a 
direct RU upgrade from 8.5 to 10.5 is possible, you also need to consider the 
hardware requirements of 10.5 as well. Check out the 10.5 OVA specifications 
here:

http://www.cisco.com/web/software/283088407/112975/cucm.ova.README.txt

But to the steps mentioned below, this description sounds more like a Jump 
Upgrade procedure, which I understand is only required when upgrading from CUCM 
6.x/7.1(5), not CUCM 8.5.

So for the 8.5 to 10.5 upgrade – It seems the most straight forward method, 
assuming you’re on an MCS server, would be to


1)  DRS restore your 8.5 cluster to a virtualized environment built out on 
a v8.5 OVA template.

++ I’ve read that 8.5 won’t install on a v10 OVA template. Have I tried this 
myself? No. Should easy enough to test though. If it doesn’t, I’d imagine it’s 
due to disk sizing requirements for the user node specs.

2)  Use LCU to gather your license information pre-upgrade

3)  Refresh Upgrade from virtual 8.5 on UCS directly to 10.5 manually 
without PCD – requires the keys.cop and refresh_upgrade files. Last I checked 
you cannot upgrade from 8.5 to 10.5 via PCD.

++ I’d suggest reviewing the v10 OVA readme file and make sure you’re virtual 
machine specs and reservations are sufficient for the upgrade. Update if 
necessary – careful with disk resizing – there’s a recent thread on this topic 
alone.

4)  Submit a license request gathered from PLM – you’ll have a 60 day grace 
period.

++ At this point you should be on 10.5 with proper CPU and memory 
specifications and reservations, but your virtual disks will still be the 8.5 
provisioned specs. Having 2x80GB drives on CUCM 10.5 is supported and it runs 
just fine.

My suggestion would be to review all the migration and upgrade documentation 
you can find and review it. This might also help:

MCS to UCS – Slides 70 and higher might be most helpful:
http://stor.balios.net/Live2012/BRKUCC-2011.pdf

Also keep in mind that live MOH audio sources via USB are not supported in 10.5 
– you’ll need an alternate, IOS based solution for this.

Another caveat to keep in mind is Unity Connection and AXL synchronization – 
this will break unless you’re on Unity Connection 8.6 SU5 or a higher ES. If 
you patch to 8.6SU5 then be aware of CSCuq63776 – it’s pretty critical and 
you’re pretty much guaranteed to hit this after a SU5 patch. The latest CUC ES 
is 163 and includes a fix for this defect in addition to the BASH vulnerability 
patch and the fix for AXL.

I hope someone corrects any mistakes I made above and hope this helps.

- Dan



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Neal
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 10:41 AM
To: 'Andrew Grech'; Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

10.5 is VM only, 8.6.1 usually was MCS hardware.

To upgrade you will need to 8.6.1 upgrade to 9.1 on MCS. Then 9.1 MCS to VM, 
the upgrade 9.1 to 10.5(2)SU1.


Neal Haas

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Andrew Grech
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 7:30 AM
To: Nick
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5


Supported vs the system will upgrade are two different things.
On 27/03/2015 1:51 AM, Nick 
csv...@googlemail.commailto:csv...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi All

Just checking through documentation for CUCM 10.5 for an upgrade, the 
compatibility guide states that a direct upgrade is from 8.6.1 onwards as shown 
below.

Upgrade Paths for Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 10.5(2)SU1

[http://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/i/templates/note.gif]
Note



If your release is not listed in the following table, find the upgrade path 
from your current release to a listed release in Cisco Unified Communications 
Manager Software Compatibility Matrix for Release 9.X and Earlier at 
http:/​/​www.cisco.com/​en/​US/​docs/​voice_ip_comm/​cucm/​compat/​ccmcompmatr1.pdfhttp://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr1.pdf.




Table 15 Export Restricted Supported Cisco Unified Communications Manager 
Upgrades for Release 10.5(2)SU1


10.5(2)SU1


10.5.2.11900-3


Active


February 24, 2015


Direct Upgrade:

10.5(2), 10.5(1)SU1a, 10.5(1)SU1, 10.5(1), 10.0(1)SU2, 10.0(1)SU1, 10.0(1), 
9.1(2

Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

2015-03-27 Thread Anthony Holloway
It's so obvious now that you put it like that.  You could only direct
upgrade to 10+ if your source is already virtualized.  Duh!  Thanks for the
reminder.

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 9:41 AM Haas, Neal nh...@co.fresno.ca.us wrote:

  10.5 is VM only, 8.6.1 usually was MCS hardware.



 To upgrade you will need to 8.6.1 upgrade to 9.1 on MCS. Then 9.1 MCS to
 VM, the upgrade 9.1 to 10.5(2)SU1.





 Neal Haas



 *From:* cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] *On Behalf
 Of *Andrew Grech
 *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 7:30 AM
 *To:* Nick
 *Cc:* Cisco VoIP Group


 *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5



 Supported vs the system will upgrade are two different things.

 On 27/03/2015 1:51 AM, Nick csv...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi All



 Just checking through documentation for CUCM 10.5 for an upgrade, the
 compatibility guide states that a direct upgrade is from 8.6.1 onwards as
 shown below.


   Upgrade Paths for Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release
 10.5(2)SU1



 *Note*


  --

 If your release is not listed in the following table, find the upgrade
 path from your current release to a listed release in Cisco Unified
 Communications Manager Software Compatibility Matrix for Release 9.X and
 Earlier at
 http:/​/​www.cisco.com/​en/​US/​docs/​voice_ip_comm/​cucm/​compat/​ccmcompmatr1.pdf
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr1.pdf.

  --



 Table 15 Export Restricted Supported Cisco Unified Communications Manager
 Upgrades for Release 10.5(2)SU1

 *10.5(2)SU1 *

 10.5.2.11900-3

 Active

 February 24, 2015

 Direct Upgrade:

 10.5(2), 10.5(1)SU1a, 10.5(1)SU1, 10.5(1), 10.0(1)SU2, 10.0(1)SU1,
 10.0(1), 9.1(2)SU2a, 9.1(2)SU2, 9.1(2)SU1, 9.1(2), 9.1(1a), 9.1(1), 9.0(1),

 8.6(2a)SU5, 8.6(2a)SU4a, 8.6(2a)SU4, 8.6(2a)SU3, 8.6(2a)SU2, 8.6(2a)SU1,
 8.6(2a),

 8.6(2), 8.6(1a), 8.6(1)

 Supported: (Consult the Cisco Unified Communications Manager Upgrade Guide
 for details)

 8.5.(1)SU7, 8.5.(1)SU6, 8.5(1)SU5, 8.5(1)SU4, 8.5(1)SU3, 8.5(1)SU2,

 8.5(1)SU1, 8.5(1), 8.0(3a)SU3, 8.0(3a)SU2, 8.0(3a)SU1, 8.0(3a),

 8.0(3), 8.0(2c)SU1, 8.0(2c), 8.0(2b), 8.0(2a), 8.0(2), 8.0(1),

 7.1(5b)SU6(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU5(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU4(restricted),

 7.1(5b)SU3(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU2(restricted), 7.1(5b)(restricted),

 7.1(5a)(restricted), 7.1(5)SU1a(restricted), 7.1(5)SU1(restricted),

 7.1(5)(restricted), 7.1(3b)SU2, 7.1(3b)SU1, 7.1(3b), 7.1(3a)SU1a,

 7.1(3a)SU1, 7.1(3a), 7.1(3), 6.1(5)SU3, 6.1(5)SU2, 6.1(5)SU1,

 6.1(5), 6.1(4a)SU2, 6.1(4a), 6.1(4)SU1, 6.1(4)



 However in the Read Me notes for 10.5.2 Su1 it states the following



  *Version and Description*

 This SU is a cumulative update that incorporates all of the fixes and
 changes from Cisco Unified Communications Manager 10.5(2) along with
 additional changes that are specific to this SU.

 *Note*

 You can only install this SU on Cisco Unified Communications Manager
 Release 6.1(4x), 6.1(5x), 7.1(3x), 7.1(5x), 8.0(x), 8.5(1x), 8.6(x),
 9.0(x), 9.1(x), 10.0(1), 10.5(1), or 10.5(2) This SU will not install over
 any 10.5(2)ES’s. Upgrades from 6x, 7x, 8.x, and 9.x need to be requested
 via PUT (www.cisco.com/upgrade) to obtain the necessary license. This SU
 should not be installed on a Business Edition 3000 server.



 I would normally always go with what is says in the compatibility matrix,
 however my colleague has just done an upgrade albeit in a lab from 8.5.1
 direct to 10.5.2 SU1.



 Anyone know if he just got lucky or if that is now supported?



 Regards



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Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

2015-03-26 Thread Anthony Holloway
I don't understand your question/concern.

Both documents are saying the same thing: you can direct upgrade from
8.6(1).



On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:51 AM Nick csv...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi All

 Just checking through documentation for CUCM 10.5 for an upgrade, the
 compatibility guide states that a direct upgrade is from 8.6.1 onwards as
 shown below.

 Upgrade Paths for Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 10.5(2)SU1

 *Note*
 --
 If your release is not listed in the following table, find the upgrade
 path from your current release to a listed release in Cisco Unified
 Communications Manager Software Compatibility Matrix for Release 9.X and
 Earlier at
 http:/​/​www.cisco.com/​en/​US/​docs/​voice_ip_comm/​cucm/​compat/​ccmcompmatr1.pdf
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr1.pdf.

 --
 Table 15 Export Restricted Supported Cisco Unified Communications Manager
 Upgrades for Release 10.5(2)SU1

 10.5(2)SU1

 10.5.2.11900-3

 Active

 February 24, 2015

 Direct Upgrade:

 10.5(2), 10.5(1)SU1a, 10.5(1)SU1, 10.5(1), 10.0(1)SU2, 10.0(1)SU1,
 10.0(1), 9.1(2)SU2a, 9.1(2)SU2, 9.1(2)SU1, 9.1(2), 9.1(1a), 9.1(1), 9.0(1),

 8.6(2a)SU5, 8.6(2a)SU4a, 8.6(2a)SU4, 8.6(2a)SU3, 8.6(2a)SU2, 8.6(2a)SU1,
 8.6(2a),

 8.6(2), 8.6(1a), 8.6(1)

 Supported: (Consult the Cisco Unified Communications Manager Upgrade Guide
 for details)

 8.5.(1)SU7, 8.5.(1)SU6, 8.5(1)SU5, 8.5(1)SU4, 8.5(1)SU3, 8.5(1)SU2,

 8.5(1)SU1, 8.5(1), 8.0(3a)SU3, 8.0(3a)SU2, 8.0(3a)SU1, 8.0(3a),

 8.0(3), 8.0(2c)SU1, 8.0(2c), 8.0(2b), 8.0(2a), 8.0(2), 8.0(1),

 7.1(5b)SU6(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU5(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU4(restricted),

 7.1(5b)SU3(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU2(restricted), 7.1(5b)(restricted),

 7.1(5a)(restricted), 7.1(5)SU1a(restricted), 7.1(5)SU1(restricted),

 7.1(5)(restricted), 7.1(3b)SU2, 7.1(3b)SU1, 7.1(3b), 7.1(3a)SU1a,

 7.1(3a)SU1, 7.1(3a), 7.1(3), 6.1(5)SU3, 6.1(5)SU2, 6.1(5)SU1,

 6.1(5), 6.1(4a)SU2, 6.1(4a), 6.1(4)SU1, 6.1(4)

 However in the Read Me notes for 10.5.2 Su1 it states the following


  *Version and Description*

 This SU is a cumulative update that incorporates all of the fixes and
 changes from Cisco Unified Communications Manager 10.5(2) along with
 additional changes that are specific to this SU.

 *Note*

 You can only install this SU on Cisco Unified Communications Manager
 Release 6.1(4x), 6.1(5x), 7.1(3x), 7.1(5x), 8.0(x), 8.5(1x), 8.6(x),
 9.0(x), 9.1(x), 10.0(1), 10.5(1), or 10.5(2) This SU will not install over
 any 10.5(2)ES’s. Upgrades from 6x, 7x, 8.x, and 9.x need to be requested
 via PUT (www.cisco.com/upgrade) to obtain the necessary license. This SU
 should not be installed on a Business Edition 3000 server.

 I would normally always go with what is says in the compatibility matrix,
 however my colleague has just done an upgrade albeit in a lab from 8.5.1
 direct to 10.5.2 SU1.

 Anyone know if he just got lucky or if that is now supported?

 Regards

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Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

2015-03-26 Thread Daniel Pagan
Hmmm… Subject line says “from 8.5” but message body says “from 8.6”. Perhaps 
he’s referring to 8.5?

If you are then keep in mind the upgrade will require not only the 
version3-keys.cop file, but you’ll need to install the refresh_upgrade file as 
well. See the ReadMe:

http://www.cisco.com/web/software/282204704/18582/ciscocm.refresh_upgrade_v1.5.pdf
From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Holloway
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 12:45 PM
To: Nick; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

I don't understand your question/concern.

Both documents are saying the same thing: you can direct upgrade from 8.6(1).



On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:51 AM Nick 
csv...@googlemail.commailto:csv...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi All

Just checking through documentation for CUCM 10.5 for an upgrade, the 
compatibility guide states that a direct upgrade is from 8.6.1 onwards as shown 
below.

Upgrade Paths for Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 10.5(2)SU1

[http://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/i/templates/note.gif]
Note



If your release is not listed in the following table, find the upgrade path 
from your current release to a listed release in Cisco Unified Communications 
Manager Software Compatibility Matrix for Release 9.X and Earlier at 
http:/​/​www.cisco.com/​en/​US/​docs/​voice_ip_comm/​cucm/​compat/​ccmcompmatr1.pdfhttp://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr1.pdf.



Table 15 Export Restricted Supported Cisco Unified Communications Manager 
Upgrades for Release 10.5(2)SU1


10.5(2)SU1


10.5.2.11900-3


Active


February 24, 2015


Direct Upgrade:

10.5(2), 10.5(1)SU1a, 10.5(1)SU1, 10.5(1), 10.0(1)SU2, 10.0(1)SU1, 10.0(1), 
9.1(2)SU2a, 9.1(2)SU2, 9.1(2)SU1, 9.1(2), 9.1(1a), 9.1(1), 9.0(1),

8.6(2a)SU5, 8.6(2a)SU4a, 8.6(2a)SU4, 8.6(2a)SU3, 8.6(2a)SU2, 8.6(2a)SU1, 
8.6(2a),

8.6(2), 8.6(1a), 8.6(1)


Supported: (Consult the Cisco Unified Communications Manager Upgrade Guide for 
details)

8.5.(1)SU7, 8.5.(1)SU6, 8.5(1)SU5, 8.5(1)SU4, 8.5(1)SU3, 8.5(1)SU2,

8.5(1)SU1, 8.5(1), 8.0(3a)SU3, 8.0(3a)SU2, 8.0(3a)SU1, 8.0(3a),

8.0(3), 8.0(2c)SU1, 8.0(2c), 8.0(2b), 8.0(2a), 8.0(2), 8.0(1),

7.1(5b)SU6(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU5(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU4(restricted),

7.1(5b)SU3(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU2(restricted), 7.1(5b)(restricted),

7.1(5a)(restricted), 7.1(5)SU1a(restricted), 7.1(5)SU1(restricted),

7.1(5)(restricted), 7.1(3b)SU2, 7.1(3b)SU1, 7.1(3b), 7.1(3a)SU1a,

7.1(3a)SU1, 7.1(3a), 7.1(3), 6.1(5)SU3, 6.1(5)SU2, 6.1(5)SU1,

6.1(5), 6.1(4a)SU2, 6.1(4a), 6.1(4)SU1, 6.1(4)


However in the Read Me notes for 10.5.2 Su1 it states the following


 

Version and Description

This SU is a cumulative update that incorporates all of the fixes and changes 
from Cisco Unified Communications Manager 10.5(2) along with additional changes 
that are specific to this SU.

Note

You can only install this SU on Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 
6.1(4x), 6.1(5x), 7.1(3x), 7.1(5x), 8.0(x), 8.5(1x), 8.6(x), 9.0(x), 9.1(x), 
10.0(1), 10.5(1), or 10.5(2) This SU will not install over any 10.5(2)ES’s. 
Upgrades from 6x, 7x, 8.x, and 9.x need to be requested via PUT 
(www.cisco.com/upgradehttp://www.cisco.com/upgrade) to obtain the necessary 
license. This SU should not be installed on a Business Edition 3000 server.

I would normally always go with what is says in the compatibility matrix, 
however my colleague has just done an upgrade albeit in a lab from 8.5.1 direct 
to 10.5.2 SU1.

Anyone know if he just got lucky or if that is now supported?

Regards

Nick



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Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

2015-03-26 Thread Anthony Holloway
Ah ha! The subject line reveals the truth.  Thank you.  I typically restate
my subject in the first sentence of my emails, and so I applied my behavior
to his email.  Silly me.

Yes, there is a discrepency there, one says 8.6(1) is the lowest for direct
and then other says 6.1(4) is the lowest.  However, the Supported section
of the upper screenshot does list 6.1(4) as the lowest version number, and
so I'd have to deduce that 6.1(4) is agreeable between documents, despite
not having the full document for context.  I'm not even sure which document
he has on top, as the latest Upgrade guide is for CUCM 10.0(1) here:

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/unified-communications/unified-communications-manager-callmanager/products-installation-guides-list.html

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:26 PM Daniel Pagan dpa...@fidelus.com wrote:

  Hmmm… Subject line says “from 8.5” but message body says “from 8.6”.
 Perhaps he’s referring to 8.5?



 If you are then keep in mind the upgrade will require not only the
 version3-keys.cop file, but you’ll need to install the refresh_upgrade file
 as well. See the ReadMe:




 http://www.cisco.com/web/software/282204704/18582/ciscocm.refresh_upgrade_v1.5.pdf

 *From:* cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] *On Behalf
 Of *Anthony Holloway
 *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 12:45 PM
 *To:* Nick; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
 *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5



 I don't understand your question/concern.

 Both documents are saying the same thing: you can direct upgrade from
 8.6(1).







 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:51 AM Nick csv...@googlemail.com wrote:

  Hi All



 Just checking through documentation for CUCM 10.5 for an upgrade, the
 compatibility guide states that a direct upgrade is from 8.6.1 onwards as
 shown below.


   Upgrade Paths for Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release
 10.5(2)SU1



 *Note*


  --

 If your release is not listed in the following table, find the upgrade
 path from your current release to a listed release in Cisco Unified
 Communications Manager Software Compatibility Matrix for Release 9.X and
 Earlier at
 http:/​/​www.cisco.com/​en/​US/​docs/​voice_ip_comm/​cucm/​compat/​ccmcompmatr1.pdf
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr1.pdf.

  --



 Table 15 Export Restricted Supported Cisco Unified Communications Manager
 Upgrades for Release 10.5(2)SU1

 *10.5(2)SU1 *

 10.5.2.11900-3

 Active

 February 24, 2015

 Direct Upgrade:

 10.5(2), 10.5(1)SU1a, 10.5(1)SU1, 10.5(1), 10.0(1)SU2, 10.0(1)SU1,
 10.0(1), 9.1(2)SU2a, 9.1(2)SU2, 9.1(2)SU1, 9.1(2), 9.1(1a), 9.1(1), 9.0(1),

 8.6(2a)SU5, 8.6(2a)SU4a, 8.6(2a)SU4, 8.6(2a)SU3, 8.6(2a)SU2, 8.6(2a)SU1,
 8.6(2a),

 8.6(2), 8.6(1a), 8.6(1)

 Supported: (Consult the Cisco Unified Communications Manager Upgrade Guide
 for details)

 8.5.(1)SU7, 8.5.(1)SU6, 8.5(1)SU5, 8.5(1)SU4, 8.5(1)SU3, 8.5(1)SU2,

 8.5(1)SU1, 8.5(1), 8.0(3a)SU3, 8.0(3a)SU2, 8.0(3a)SU1, 8.0(3a),

 8.0(3), 8.0(2c)SU1, 8.0(2c), 8.0(2b), 8.0(2a), 8.0(2), 8.0(1),

 7.1(5b)SU6(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU5(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU4(restricted),

 7.1(5b)SU3(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU2(restricted), 7.1(5b)(restricted),

 7.1(5a)(restricted), 7.1(5)SU1a(restricted), 7.1(5)SU1(restricted),

 7.1(5)(restricted), 7.1(3b)SU2, 7.1(3b)SU1, 7.1(3b), 7.1(3a)SU1a,

 7.1(3a)SU1, 7.1(3a), 7.1(3), 6.1(5)SU3, 6.1(5)SU2, 6.1(5)SU1,

 6.1(5), 6.1(4a)SU2, 6.1(4a), 6.1(4)SU1, 6.1(4)



 However in the Read Me notes for 10.5.2 Su1 it states the following



  *Version and Description*

 This SU is a cumulative update that incorporates all of the fixes and
 changes from Cisco Unified Communications Manager 10.5(2) along with
 additional changes that are specific to this SU.

 *Note*

 You can only install this SU on Cisco Unified Communications Manager
 Release 6.1(4x), 6.1(5x), 7.1(3x), 7.1(5x), 8.0(x), 8.5(1x), 8.6(x),
 9.0(x), 9.1(x), 10.0(1), 10.5(1), or 10.5(2) This SU will not install over
 any 10.5(2)ES’s. Upgrades from 6x, 7x, 8.x, and 9.x need to be requested
 via PUT (www.cisco.com/upgrade) to obtain the necessary license. This SU
 should not be installed on a Business Edition 3000 server.



 I would normally always go with what is says in the compatibility matrix,
 however my colleague has just done an upgrade albeit in a lab from 8.5.1
 direct to 10.5.2 SU1.



 Anyone know if he just got lucky or if that is now supported?



 Regards



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[cisco-voip] Upgrading CUCM from 8.5 to 10.5

2015-03-26 Thread Nick
Hi All

Just checking through documentation for CUCM 10.5 for an upgrade, the
compatibility guide states that a direct upgrade is from 8.6.1 onwards as
shown below.

Upgrade Paths for Cisco Unified Communications Manager Release 10.5(2)SU1

*Note*
--
If your release is not listed in the following table, find the upgrade path
from your current release to a listed release in Cisco Unified
Communications Manager Software Compatibility Matrix for Release 9.X and
Earlier at
http:/​/​www.cisco.com/​en/​US/​docs/​voice_ip_comm/​cucm/​compat/​ccmcompmatr1.pdf
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/ccmcompmatr1.pdf.

--
Table 15 Export Restricted Supported Cisco Unified Communications Manager
Upgrades for Release 10.5(2)SU1

10.5(2)SU1

10.5.2.11900-3

Active

February 24, 2015

Direct Upgrade:

10.5(2), 10.5(1)SU1a, 10.5(1)SU1, 10.5(1), 10.0(1)SU2, 10.0(1)SU1, 10.0(1),
9.1(2)SU2a, 9.1(2)SU2, 9.1(2)SU1, 9.1(2), 9.1(1a), 9.1(1), 9.0(1),

8.6(2a)SU5, 8.6(2a)SU4a, 8.6(2a)SU4, 8.6(2a)SU3, 8.6(2a)SU2, 8.6(2a)SU1,
8.6(2a),

8.6(2), 8.6(1a), 8.6(1)

Supported: (Consult the Cisco Unified Communications Manager Upgrade Guide
for details)

8.5.(1)SU7, 8.5.(1)SU6, 8.5(1)SU5, 8.5(1)SU4, 8.5(1)SU3, 8.5(1)SU2,

8.5(1)SU1, 8.5(1), 8.0(3a)SU3, 8.0(3a)SU2, 8.0(3a)SU1, 8.0(3a),

8.0(3), 8.0(2c)SU1, 8.0(2c), 8.0(2b), 8.0(2a), 8.0(2), 8.0(1),

7.1(5b)SU6(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU5(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU4(restricted),

7.1(5b)SU3(restricted), 7.1(5b)SU2(restricted), 7.1(5b)(restricted),

7.1(5a)(restricted), 7.1(5)SU1a(restricted), 7.1(5)SU1(restricted),

7.1(5)(restricted), 7.1(3b)SU2, 7.1(3b)SU1, 7.1(3b), 7.1(3a)SU1a,

7.1(3a)SU1, 7.1(3a), 7.1(3), 6.1(5)SU3, 6.1(5)SU2, 6.1(5)SU1,

6.1(5), 6.1(4a)SU2, 6.1(4a), 6.1(4)SU1, 6.1(4)

However in the Read Me notes for 10.5.2 Su1 it states the following


 *Version and Description*

This SU is a cumulative update that incorporates all of the fixes and
changes from Cisco Unified Communications Manager 10.5(2) along with
additional changes that are specific to this SU.

*Note*

You can only install this SU on Cisco Unified Communications Manager
Release 6.1(4x), 6.1(5x), 7.1(3x), 7.1(5x), 8.0(x), 8.5(1x), 8.6(x),
9.0(x), 9.1(x), 10.0(1), 10.5(1), or 10.5(2) This SU will not install over
any 10.5(2)ES’s. Upgrades from 6x, 7x, 8.x, and 9.x need to be requested
via PUT (www.cisco.com/upgrade) to obtain the necessary license. This SU
should not be installed on a Business Edition 3000 server.

I would normally always go with what is says in the compatibility matrix,
however my colleague has just done an upgrade albeit in a lab from 8.5.1
direct to 10.5.2 SU1.

Anyone know if he just got lucky or if that is now supported?

Regards

Nick
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