Stus-List Re George Cuthbertson.

[Joseph Bognar via CnC-List]

I just found out that George Cuthbertson passed away today . My thoughts and 
prayers are with his family at this sad time . 

https://www.facebook.com/BayOfQuinteYachtClub/posts/745296169000804

Sent from Joe Bognar

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Re: Stus-List Toe rail leak

[Michael Brown via CnC-List]

Good enough for me, will give it a try in the spring.

Windburn is pretty dry, not much gets in from rain or spray.
A very little gets in on the port side midship with the rail buried
for a while, wipes up with a cloth. I shouldn't be bothered but
so close to being completely dry ...

Michael Brown
Windburn
C 30-1


 
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2017 19:14:28 -0500 
From: "Dennis C."  
 
All I know is that I, and others, have seen leaks decrease or stop after 
applying Captain Tolley's to the inboard edge of the toe rail.  It may just 
be that the stuff is so watery that it finds it's way under the rail, 
possibly sneaks around the fasteners and works its magic.  Whether it finds 
its way to the rub rail I can't say.  :) 
 
Dennis C. 
Touche' 35-1 #83 
Mandeville, LA 
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Re: Stus-List Toe rail leak

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

FWIW, I don’t have a rub rail like either of the models shown on the South 
Shore site.  My rub rail is two or three big-ass fenders.

From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 8:14 PM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Toe rail leak

All I know is that I, and others, have seen leaks decrease or stop after 
applying Captain Tolley's to the inboard edge of the toe rail.  It may just be 
that the stuff is so watery that it finds it's way under the rail, possibly 
sneaks around the fasteners and works its magic.  Whether it finds its way to 
the rub rail I can't say.  :) 

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 6:51 PM, Michael Brown via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  I had assumed any water intrusion getting in would between the deck and vinyl 
rub strip
  where there should be some butyl, or the rub strip and the hull where again 
there should
  be butyl.

  http://southshoreyachts.com/shop/cc-old-style-rub-rail-40/

  Is the Tolly creeping down to those areas?

  Michael Brown
  Windburn
  C 30-1



Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2017 16:53:16 -0500 
From: "Dennis C."  
To: CnClist  
Subject: Re: Stus-List Toe rail leak 
Message-ID: 
 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" 

Not the way I use it.  I just use it to stop water intrusion between the 
toe rail and deck.  It may work on the bolts but I've never tried it. 

Dennis C. 

On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Michael Brown via CnC-List < 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: 

> Is this to stop water entry from following the through bolts ( machine 
> screws ) into the cabin? 
> 
> Michael Brown 
> Windburn 
> C 30-1 


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Stus-List Irma 1 : Ox <1

[bobmor99 . via CnC-List]

Ol' Ox was on a mooring ball in St Augustine, FL when Hurricane Irma passed
through. I should've had out more scope and better chafing protection.
Ox broke free and was eventually pounded under some floating docks.
The salvage folks put a sling under the gooseneck and after 20 minutes of
serious horsepower, pulled Ox free and and dragged the remains along the
bottom the their barge/crane for lifting the next day.
After lifting and a pump out, the bottom of the hole in the transom was
about 9-12 inches above the waterline.
I was impressed by the strength of the standing rigging. No rod heads
"popped" on the (perhaps) original standing rigging.
I put the boat on craigslist as a freebie, salvaged what I could, and
removed as much weight as possible.
Among the now-functional salvaged equipment are a Honda 2000 generator, a
CPT autopilot (great factory support), an Engel 12V refigerator, a couple
of Northstar AGM batteries, and a Caframo fan. I put all of these items in
fresh water asap and sprayed a lot of WD-40.
These tried-and-true components will likely find their way to my next (and
final) boat.
Looking at a C 40 centerboard but that's another topic.
Some pics:
https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipNgoje_BPk95Ok9jhXDNvYanbsOoopSiafADrsB
https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipN8sBQwNLd6BV-Z6RASXWodvDmE6fIEAtdeSiJc
https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipNY1uwDlBcWf9E6HcZX3EVt5V0xIC-6jNRldH8x
https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipM65GCmNEwr8Xe4-Q8itH37u6wy4y8tKKuu4W86
https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipP0cYMFqPuocDilK_Np5S_9gPIDfZj_0DLrLmQP
https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipMtt0CBZkz0GPA8BDytwjjLQzQchQKs-4BUux-x
https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipOfcjqw_f0HFqkEeesqiNUidoCPYIpQAnGrHyq8
https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipPKf72ExM8WaXoDPv0M9_1OlcCCIDJ7gGGMg2Mn
https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipPnDm297tq9lHdfu3fQeQQQtmriWcrMMXJx7TTh
Ready for craigslist.
https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipP5JcQBzwq5qSrKn9pQ4NCstnO3ywXEwkat3_kH
https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipNwL7duAsb7Iq0x7kS53liIgD0H0xOmNChNBCaY
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/deHRYLaD0i8kUVWZl9xA8eKQYU8v_e6MxUFEcEcD6Ah9BLBxJzTP_qkxNNVktC_izH5TqMiTtNlK4K4WEWzyod8HhbbvLZ3RngNxkvdfjm9KE6bM2ckYK5eDn-wBc0PeB4hiIAO8C1-3_WZ5xS1SzKUmUf6O6Zw9XpgoQQ8x2ACcP09mbtuNcw--udTzx_5F6xfmhKaCqFS1hWz_zSRGa7RivKvKA1-38uiISEtJUd31EbeaLZ2jOa7tW7hSz1yFAHE1MHjNbCFq5ibA9prydZT2pGGSMgcPKAarqzvvbIZnK7c74GLXntr7u0T9mPn1-_zPBRE4li58UW3oA5CHcrAZW60VL1sg87eOo9L4GCiHNYqciycvM1NfHHsLVp13RktlbhQzNK-c2vVzsyaRtMd_c5_5aUc0QMXpzrlp4BYjXCauhy2GogT5VnPD4Oqi4oQkF1OZC9nGFugE0fWAosET4X7yE0xI47xqXCENy9_S520-2WZJm9X4Uc1CdvlzY2SBNonkWNMOT4x2LROQZT1dOD9I-79Q0T96YHVK40ffTuy3WtIJ1qtd0juQjDdz6SNT3pkHywKIHussHAdA9Q05sfZlVQyPL-4RmHM76A=w1069-h601-no

Cheers for now,
--Bob M
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Re: Stus-List Charter from Grenada

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Grenada was well south of the hurricanes. It and all the islands except 
Dominica, Barbuda, St Martin, and the VI are fine. (Except maybe Anguilla, I 
haven't heard anything about there)

Andy
C 40
Peregrine 

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
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> On Oct 4, 2017, at 19:11, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Two questions...
> 
> First, It is still there after the recent storms?
> 
> Second, are there any charter boats left?
> 
> Enquiring minds want to know!
> 
> At 03:33 PM 10/4/2017, you wrote:
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2017 18:32:54 -0400
>> From: Andrew Burton 
>> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Charter from Grenada
>> Message-ID:
>>  
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Yes. It's lovely. A bit more challenging than the VI, but well worth it.
>> Grenada itself is really worthwhile, too. There are a bunch of articles on
>> Grenada by Don Street on the Cruising world web site that may help.
>> Definitely spend as little time as possible in St Vincent. Get there the
>> day you fly out, if you can. A good old friend lives is a native of Bequia
>> and big into promoting sailing there. You would probably enjoy meeting him
>> and some of the kids he's coaching. I'll put you in touch should you head
>> down.
>> Andy
>> C 40
>> Peregrine
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 5:12 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > Hi- We are considering a charter from Grenada cruising up through the
>> > Grenadines this winter.  Does anyone on the list have experience with this
>>  ...snip...
> 
> .¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
> Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
> SV Alera
> C 37+/40
> Vashon Island WA
> (206) 463-9200
> www.sv-alera.com 
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Charter from Grenada

[Paul Fountain via CnC-List]

Tom,

Grenada is on the southern end of the hurricane belt, and other than some surge 
and rain Irma and Maria left it and most of the Grenadines untouched.

There is a huge effort amongst the residents and sailors to get aid to Dominica 
and other affected islands

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CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, October 4, 2017 7:11:56 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Tom Buscaglia
Subject: Stus-List Charter from Grenada

Two questions...

First, It is still there after the recent storms?

Second, are there any charter boats left?

Enquiring minds want to know!

At 03:33 PM 10/4/2017, you wrote:
Message: 6
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2017 18:32:54 -0400
From: Andrew Burton 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Charter from Grenada
Message-ID:
 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Yes. It's lovely. A bit more challenging than the VI, but well worth it.
Grenada itself is really worthwhile, too. There are a bunch of articles on
Grenada by Don Street on the Cruising world web site that may help.
Definitely spend as little time as possible in St Vincent. Get there the
day you fly out, if you can. A good old friend lives is a native of Bequia
and big into promoting sailing there. You would probably enjoy meeting him
and some of the kids he's coaching. I'll put you in touch should you head
down.
Andy
C 40
Peregrine

On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 5:12 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi- We are considering a charter from Grenada cruising up through the
> Grenadines this winter.  Does anyone on the list have experience with this
 ...snip...

.¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
SV Alera
C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com


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Re: Stus-List Toe rail leak

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

All I know is that I, and others, have seen leaks decrease or stop after
applying Captain Tolley's to the inboard edge of the toe rail.  It may just
be that the stuff is so watery that it finds it's way under the rail,
possibly sneaks around the fasteners and works its magic.  Whether it finds
its way to the rub rail I can't say.  :)

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 6:51 PM, Michael Brown via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I had assumed any water intrusion getting in would between the deck and
> vinyl rub strip
> where there should be some butyl, or the rub strip and the hull where
> again there should
> be butyl.
>
> http://southshoreyachts.com/shop/cc-old-style-rub-rail-40/
>
> Is the Tolly creeping down to those areas?
>
> Michael Brown
> Windburn
> C 30-1
>
>
> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2017 16:53:16 -0500
> From: "Dennis C." 
> To: CnClist 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Toe rail leak
> Message-ID:
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Not the way I use it.  I just use it to stop water intrusion between the
> toe rail and deck.  It may work on the bolts but I've never tried it.
>
> Dennis C.
>
> On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Michael Brown via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> > Is this to stop water entry from following the through bolts ( machine
> > screws ) into the cabin?
> >
> > Michael Brown
> > Windburn
> > C 30-1
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Toe rail leak

[Michael Brown via CnC-List]

I had assumed any water intrusion getting in would between the deck and vinyl 
rub strip
where there should be some butyl, or the rub strip and the hull where again 
there should
be butyl.

http://southshoreyachts.com/shop/cc-old-style-rub-rail-40/

Is the Tolly creeping down to those areas?

Michael Brown
Windburn
C 30-1



Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2017 16:53:16 -0500 
From: "Dennis C."  
To: CnClist  
Subject: Re: Stus-List Toe rail leak 
Message-ID: 
      
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" 
 
Not the way I use it.  I just use it to stop water intrusion between the 
toe rail and deck.  It may work on the bolts but I've never tried it. 
 
Dennis C. 
 
On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Michael Brown via CnC-List < 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: 
 
> Is this to stop water entry from following the through bolts ( machine 
> screws ) into the cabin? 
> 
> Michael Brown 
> Windburn 
> C 30-1 
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Re: Stus-List Charter from Grenada

[Violeta M Ivanova via CnC-List]

Grenada is lovely. If you are up for longer passages, you can also sail
north to Dominica, Martinique, etc., all the way to Antigua, and back.
That's assuming the rules of your charter allow it. The French islands are
the best, imagine France in the Caribbean. Real coffee, good wine, and all
other goodies ... yeah, one goes for the sailing, but I like my cup of
coffee, too :)

Where will you charter in Grenada? I sailed on deliveries between the
islands, so I never chartered. Any recommendations for charter companies?
Grenada is a great option for this season after the charter fleet was hit
so badly in the VIs and other places. :(

You can fly directly to Grenada. Airfare was very cheap from/to the
Northeast US last season (except right before or after major regattas).

Make sure you have the Imray charts for the Caribbean. You can buy them in
Island Water World on the islands, if not before.

Oh my, trade winds! Just thinking of them makes me restless. Anyone needs
crew for the Caribbean? I'll work for food. :))

Violeta

.

On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 6:32 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Yes. It's lovely. A bit more challenging than the VI, but well worth it.
> Grenada itself is really worthwhile, too. There are a bunch of articles on
> Grenada by Don Street on the Cruising world web site that may help.
> Definitely spend as little time as possible in St Vincent. Get there the
> day you fly out, if you can. A good old friend lives is a native of Bequia
> and big into promoting sailing there. You would probably enjoy meeting him
> and some of the kids he's coaching. I'll put you in touch should you head
> down.
> Andy
> C 40
> Peregrine
>
> On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 5:12 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi- We are considering a charter from Grenada cruising up through the
>> Grenadines this winter.  Does anyone on the list have experience with this
>> area?  Thanks- Dave
>>
>> Aries
>> 1990 C 34+
>> New London, CT
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Charter from Grenada

[Paul Fountain via CnC-List]

Have not chartered , but been to Grenada a number of times and love it there. 
If you are going check out Chris Doyle’s guides and there is a Grenada Cruisers 
group on Facebook.



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Sent: Wednesday, October 4, 2017 5:12:48 PM
To: CnC CnC discussion list
Cc: David Knecht
Subject: Stus-List Charter from Grenada

Hi- We are considering a charter from Grenada cruising up through the 
Grenadines this winter.  Does anyone on the list have experience with this 
area?  Thanks- Dave

Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT


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Stus-List Charter from Grenada

[Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List]

Two questions...

First, It is still there after the recent storms?

Second, are there any charter boats left?

Enquiring minds want to know!

At 03:33 PM 10/4/2017, you wrote:

Message: 6
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2017 18:32:54 -0400
From: Andrew Burton 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Charter from Grenada
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Yes. It's lovely. A bit more challenging than the VI, but well worth it.
Grenada itself is really worthwhile, too. There are a bunch of articles on
Grenada by Don Street on the Cruising world web site that may help.
Definitely spend as little time as possible in St Vincent. Get there the
day you fly out, if you can. A good old friend lives is a native of Bequia
and big into promoting sailing there. You would probably enjoy meeting him
and some of the kids he's coaching. I'll put you in touch should you head
down.
Andy
C 40
Peregrine

On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 5:12 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi- We are considering a charter from Grenada cruising up through the
> Grenadines this winter.  Does anyone on the list have experience with this
 ...snip...


.¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
SV Alera
C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com


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Re: Stus-List Charter from Grenada

[Randy Stafford via CnC-List]

Agree St. Vincent can be skipped.  Kingstown is ok, but up the northeast side 
e.g. Wallilabou and farther north it gets sketchy.  All the other islands are 
generally safe, but lock your companionway when ashore on Mayreau from 
Saltwhistle Bay.

Cheers,
Randy

> On Oct 4, 2017, at 4:32 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes. It's lovely. A bit more challenging than the VI, but well worth it. 
> Grenada itself is really worthwhile, too. There are a bunch of articles on 
> Grenada by Don Street on the Cruising world web site that may help. 
> Definitely spend as little time as possible in St Vincent. Get there the day 
> you fly out, if you can. A good old friend lives is a native of Bequia and 
> big into promoting sailing there. You would probably enjoy meeting him and 
> some of the kids he's coaching. I'll put you in touch should you head down.
> Andy
> C 40
> Peregrine
> 
> On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 5:12 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List 
> > wrote:
> Hi- We are considering a charter from Grenada cruising up through the 
> Grenadines this winter.  Does anyone on the list have experience with this 
> area?  Thanks- Dave
> 
> Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> USA 02840
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> 
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Re: Stus-List Another danged storm

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Just refresh my memory, Dennis. Was it you who was giving us poor saps in
the NE grief about the length of our sailing season last winter? :)

Andy
C 40
Peregrine

On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 4:50 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Looks like TD16 will become a Cat 1 huricane before it makes landfall on
> the Florida Panhandle then heads towards the Chesapeake.  This is getting
> annoying.
>
> Touche's slip in Mandeville, LA is a fixed pier.  It has been submerged
> for a couple days now from that system that was around northeastern Florida
> last week.  Strong easterly winds for days pushes water into Lake
> Pontchartrain through The Rigolets.  My dock box probably has several
> inches of water in it.  I keep everything in tubs so unless the water gets
> 2 feet or so over the dock, everything is OK.  Pain in the butt to go pull
> everything out, mop it out and let it dry.  I usually set up a folding
> chair and drink a beer or two.
>
> The other issue is the mud on the dock.  If one of the boat owners doesn't
> get down there while the mud is still wet and hose it off, it's a pain in
> the butt to wash the dock boards after the mud dries.
>
> Anyway, Touche' is still in Pensacola on a floating pier.  If I go over to
> do storm prep (remove sails and canvas), I may have to stop by Mandeville
> and wade through the marina to get storm dock lines out of my dock box.
> Always fun with the snakes, fire ants and gators.  :(
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
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Re: Stus-List Another danged storm

[schiller via CnC-List]

I guess our cold, snow and freezing weather doesn't sound so bad now.

Good luck.  I still remember the Texas Agriculture Secretary putting his 
arm in a Fire Ant hive to show that they really aren't such a problem.  
He quickly withdrew his arm wiping ants off and wincing in pain.  I 
still don't remember if he went to the hospital.


Neil Schiller
1983 C 35, Mark III, #028
"Grace"
White Lake, Michigan
Haul out scheduled for Friday, 6 October.

On 10/4/2017 4:50 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
Looks like TD16 will become a Cat 1 huricane before it makes landfall 
on the Florida Panhandle then heads towards the Chesapeake.  This is 
getting annoying.


Touche's slip in Mandeville, LA is a fixed pier.  It has been 
submerged for a couple days now from that system that was around 
northeastern Florida last week.  Strong easterly winds for days pushes 
water into Lake Pontchartrain through The Rigolets.  My dock box 
probably has several inches of water in it.  I keep everything in tubs 
so unless the water gets 2 feet or so over the dock, everything is 
OK.  Pain in the butt to go pull everything out, mop it out and let it 
dry.  I usually set up a folding chair and drink a beer or two.


The other issue is the mud on the dock.  If one of the boat owners 
doesn't get down there while the mud is still wet and hose it off, 
it's a pain in the butt to wash the dock boards after the mud dries.


Anyway, Touche' is still in Pensacola on a floating pier. If I go over 
to do storm prep (remove sails and canvas), I may have to stop by 
Mandeville and wade through the marina to get storm dock lines out of 
my dock box.  Always fun with the snakes, fire ants and gators.  :(


Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA


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Re: Stus-List Charter from Grenada

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Yes. It's lovely. A bit more challenging than the VI, but well worth it.
Grenada itself is really worthwhile, too. There are a bunch of articles on
Grenada by Don Street on the Cruising world web site that may help.
Definitely spend as little time as possible in St Vincent. Get there the
day you fly out, if you can. A good old friend lives is a native of Bequia
and big into promoting sailing there. You would probably enjoy meeting him
and some of the kids he's coaching. I'll put you in touch should you head
down.
Andy
C 40
Peregrine

On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 5:12 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi- We are considering a charter from Grenada cruising up through the
> Grenadines this winter.  Does anyone on the list have experience with this
> area?  Thanks- Dave
>
> Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Toe rail leak

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Not the way I use it.  I just use it to stop water intrusion between the
toe rail and deck.  It may work on the bolts but I've never tried it.

Dennis C.

On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Michael Brown via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Is this to stop water entry from following the through bolts ( machine
> screws ) into the cabin?
>
> Michael Brown
> Windburn
> C 30-1
>
> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2017 15:36:56 -0500
> From: "Dennis C." 
>
>
> Yep.  Just place the tip of the bottle in the rail/deck interface, squeeze
> very gently and go.  Watch it get sucked into the crack.  Again, don't
> squeeze too hard or it will flow out on the deck.  You'll get the
> technique
> down in under a minute.
>
> First time, put 5-6 applications about 30-60 minutes apart.  Next year you
> might only do 2-3 applications.
>
> I'm down to 1 per year or every other year.
>
> It's an aqueous acrylic polymer dispersion.  I'm guessing it's a close
> cousin to the polymers one finds in some grouts and sealants.  Once it
> dries, it's probably stays flexible.  Hence it's good application for toe
> rails.
>
> When I looked up the MSDS, I see it's a product of a company called New
> Pig.  We used to buy a lot of their stuff for spill containment/clean up
> when I was a regulatory manager.  Good company.  They sell oil absorbent
> pads and "elephant tampons".
>
> https://www.newpig.com/pig-blue-absorbent-sock/p/4048
>
> Probably too much info for the list but I thought it was interesting.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Toe rail leak

[Michael Brown via CnC-List]

Is this to stop water entry from following the through bolts ( machine screws ) 
into the cabin?

Michael Brown
Windburn
C 30-1


Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2017 15:36:56 -0500 
From: "Dennis C."  

 
Yep.  Just place the tip of the bottle in the rail/deck interface, squeeze 
very gently and go.  Watch it get sucked into the crack.  Again, don't 
squeeze too hard or it will flow out on the deck.  You'll get the technique 
down in under a minute. 
 
First time, put 5-6 applications about 30-60 minutes apart.  Next year you 
might only do 2-3 applications. 
 
I'm down to 1 per year or every other year. 
 
It's an aqueous acrylic polymer dispersion.  I'm guessing it's a close 
cousin to the polymers one finds in some grouts and sealants.  Once it 
dries, it's probably stays flexible.  Hence it's good application for toe 
rails. 
 
When I looked up the MSDS, I see it's a product of a company called New 
Pig.  We used to buy a lot of their stuff for spill containment/clean up 
when I was a regulatory manager.  Good company.  They sell oil absorbent 
pads and "elephant tampons". 
 
https://www.newpig.com/pig-blue-absorbent-sock/p/4048 
 
Probably too much info for the list but I thought it was interesting. 
 
Dennis C. 
Touche' 35-1 #83 
Mandeville, LA 
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Re: Stus-List Charter from Grenada

[Randy Stafford via CnC-List]

Yes. I have chartered in the Grenadines twice, basing from St. Vincent (as 
opposed to Grenada).  It’s probably my favorite place in the world.  The 
islands are unspoiled and charming.  The scenery is beautiful; the snorkeling 
spectacular.  The islands are laid out basically north/south, and the winds are 
basically easterly, so most passages are reaches.  And the passages are 
generally short - a half-day at most.  Navigation is generally line-of-sight, 
but there are some submerged hazards here and there.  Make sure to have the 
right charts and get a briefing.  The sailing is spectacular, especially if 
you’re there during the “Christmas Winds”.  Be sure to anchor at the Tobago 
Cays, and at Saltwhistle Bay, Mayreau.  And be sure to visit Bequia.  It’s 
partly because of those charters that I named my boat Grenadine (the other part 
is that she’s red, as is the Grenadine syrup with which I make rum punch :)

Cheers,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C 30-1 #7
Ken Caryl, CO

> On Oct 4, 2017, at 3:12 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi- We are considering a charter from Grenada cruising up through the 
> Grenadines this winter.  Does anyone on the list have experience with this 
> area?  Thanks- Dave
> 
> Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
> 
> 
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Stus-List Charter from Grenada

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

Hi- We are considering a charter from Grenada cruising up through the 
Grenadines this winter.  Does anyone on the list have experience with this 
area?  Thanks- Dave

Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



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Stus-List Another danged storm

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Looks like TD16 will become a Cat 1 huricane before it makes landfall on
the Florida Panhandle then heads towards the Chesapeake.  This is getting
annoying.

Touche's slip in Mandeville, LA is a fixed pier.  It has been submerged for
a couple days now from that system that was around northeastern Florida
last week.  Strong easterly winds for days pushes water into Lake
Pontchartrain through The Rigolets.  My dock box probably has several
inches of water in it.  I keep everything in tubs so unless the water gets
2 feet or so over the dock, everything is OK.  Pain in the butt to go pull
everything out, mop it out and let it dry.  I usually set up a folding
chair and drink a beer or two.

The other issue is the mud on the dock.  If one of the boat owners doesn't
get down there while the mud is still wet and hose it off, it's a pain in
the butt to wash the dock boards after the mud dries.

Anyway, Touche' is still in Pensacola on a floating pier.  If I go over to
do storm prep (remove sails and canvas), I may have to stop by Mandeville
and wade through the marina to get storm dock lines out of my dock box.
Always fun with the snakes, fire ants and gators.  :(

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Toe rail leak

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Yep.  Just place the tip of the bottle in the rail/deck interface, squeeze
very gently and go.  Watch it get sucked into the crack.  Again, don't
squeeze too hard or it will flow out on the deck.  You'll get the technique
down in under a minute.

First time, put 5-6 applications about 30-60 minutes apart.  Next year you
might only do 2-3 applications.

I'm down to 1 per year or every other year.

It's an aqueous acrylic polymer dispersion.  I'm guessing it's a close
cousin to the polymers one finds in some grouts and sealants.  Once it
dries, it's probably stays flexible.  Hence it's good application for toe
rails.

When I looked up the MSDS, I see it's a product of a company called New
Pig.  We used to buy a lot of their stuff for spill containment/clean up
when I was a regulatory manager.  Good company.  They sell oil absorbent
pads and "elephant tampons".

https://www.newpig.com/pig-blue-absorbent-sock/p/4048

Probably too much info for the list but I thought it was interesting.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 3:13 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I have one leak I think is coming from the toe rail.  Dennis you should do
> a how to video!
>
> So, you just run a small bead on the inside of the toe rail?
>
> Danny
>
> On 10/4/2017 3:07 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
>
> I'm still on my first or second bottle.  It goes a long way.
>
> Dennis C.
>
> On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Follow-up question: a bottle of this stuff looks small.  How many will I
>> need to do the toe rails (both sides) of a 42 (approximately)?
>>
>> *From:* Dennis C. via CnC-List 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 04, 2017 9:37 AM
>> *To:* CnClist 
>> *Cc:* Dennis C. 
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Toe rail leak
>>
>> It will get sucked under the rail by capillary action.
>>
>> Dennis C.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 8:22 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Not having use Captain Tolley’s, how do you get it to flow under the toe
>>> rail?
>>>
>>> *From:* robert via CnC-List 
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 04, 2017 8:20 AM
>>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> *Cc:* robert 
>>> *Subject:* Stus-List Toe rail leak
>>>
>>> I have done the same thing with Captain Tolley's liquid sealant both on
>>> the toe rail(s) and I also do it on the wooden hand rails on the coach
>>> roof.   When I did the handrails for the first few times, the liquid would
>>> run under them and disappear.after a few applications, the liquid must
>>> have filled all the cavities as it would begin to run down the side of
>>> coach roof indicating it could not take any more.and no leaks since
>>> with minimal effort.
>>>
>>> Rob Abbott
>>> AZURA
>>> C 32 - 84
>>> Halifax, N.S.
>>>
>>> On 2017-10-03 6:20 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
>>>
>>> I used to tighten the toe rail bolts.  No more.  I grew more concerned
>>> about squeezing out all the butyl rubber.
>>>
>>> Now each year or two I simply run several beads of Captain Tolley's
>>> Creeping Crack Cure down the toe rail / deck interface.  Cures fairly
>>> quickly.  Run a bead, drink a beer.  Repeat as necessary.
>>>
>>> Haven't seen any significant leaks since I've been doing it.  Been
>>> several years now since I adopted this practice.
>>>
>>> Dennis C.
>>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>>> Mandeville, LA
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Christian Planton via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
 I know my toe rail leaks in a couple of places. Has anybody redone the
 whole thing? If yes about how much time did it take you? I am going to try
 to tighten the bolts first. If that doesn't work I'm going to take out each
 bolt and try to get in there as much B-tape as possible and then tighten.
 Any other thoughts or suggestions?

 Christian
 Peer Gynt
 1980 C 34




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Re: Stus-List Toe rail leak

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

I have one leak I think is coming from the toe rail.  Dennis you should 
do a how to video!


So, you just run a small bead on the inside of the toe rail?

Danny


On 10/4/2017 3:07 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:

I'm still on my first or second bottle.  It goes a long way.

Dennis C.

On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
> wrote:


Thanks.
Follow-up question: a bottle of this stuff looks small.  How many
will I need to do the toe rails (both sides) of a 42 (approximately)?
*From:* Dennis C. via CnC-List 
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 04, 2017 9:37 AM
*To:* CnClist 
*Cc:* Dennis C. 
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Toe rail leak
It will get sucked under the rail by capillary action.
Dennis C.
On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 8:22 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
> wrote:

Not having use Captain Tolley’s, how do you get it to flow
under the toe rail?
*From:* robert via CnC-List 
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 04, 2017 8:20 AM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
*Cc:* robert 
*Subject:* Stus-List Toe rail leak
I have done the same thing with Captain Tolley's liquid
sealant both on the toe rail(s) and I also do it on the wooden
hand rails on the coach roof. When I did the handrails for the
first few times, the liquid would run under them and
disappear.after a few applications, the liquid must have
filled all the cavities as it would begin to run down the side
of coach roof indicating it could not take any more.and no
leaks since with minimal effort.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2017-10-03 6:20 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:

I used to tighten the toe rail bolts.  No more.  I grew more
concerned about squeezing out all the butyl rubber.
Now each year or two I simply run several beads of Captain
Tolley's Creeping Crack Cure down the toe rail / deck
interface.  Cures fairly quickly.  Run a bead, drink a beer. 
Repeat as necessary.
Haven't seen any significant leaks since I've been doing it. 
Been several years now since I adopted this practice.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Christian Planton via
CnC-List > wrote:

I know my toe rail leaks in a couple of places. Has
anybody redone the whole thing? If yes about how much
time did it take you? I am going to try to tighten the
bolts first. If that doesn't work I'm going to take out
each bolt and try to get in there as much B-tape as
possible and then tighten. Any other thoughts or
suggestions?
Christian
Peer Gynt
1980 C 34




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Re: Stus-List Toe rail leak

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

Thanks all.  Given the number of leaks on my 40-year old boat, I better order a 
case.

From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 3:07 PM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Toe rail leak

I'm still on my first or second bottle.  It goes a long way. 

Dennis C.

On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  Thanks.

  Follow-up question: a bottle of this stuff looks small.  How many will I need 
to do the toe rails (both sides) of a 42 (approximately)?

  From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 9:37 AM
  To: CnClist 
  Cc: Dennis C. 
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Toe rail leak

  It will get sucked under the rail by capillary action.   

  Dennis C.

  On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 8:22 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Not having use Captain Tolley’s, how do you get it to flow under the toe 
rail?

From: robert via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 8:20 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: robert 
Subject: Stus-List Toe rail leak

I have done the same thing with Captain Tolley's liquid sealant both on the 
toe rail(s) and I also do it on the wooden hand rails on the coach roof.   When 
I did the handrails for the first few times, the liquid would run under them 
and disappear.after a few applications, the liquid must have filled all the 
cavities as it would begin to run down the side of coach roof indicating it 
could not take any more.and no leaks since with minimal effort.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S. 


On 2017-10-03 6:20 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:

  I used to tighten the toe rail bolts.  No more.  I grew more concerned 
about squeezing out all the butyl rubber. 

  Now each year or two I simply run several beads of Captain Tolley's 
Creeping Crack Cure down the toe rail / deck interface.  Cures fairly quickly.  
Run a bead, drink a beer.  Repeat as necessary.

  Haven't seen any significant leaks since I've been doing it.  Been 
several years now since I adopted this practice.

  Dennis C.
  Touche' 35-1 #83
  Mandeville, LA

  On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Christian Planton via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I know my toe rail leaks in a couple of places. Has anybody redone the 
whole thing? If yes about how much time did it take you? I am going to try to 
tighten the bolts first. If that doesn't work I'm going to take out each bolt 
and try to get in there as much B-tape as possible and then tighten. Any other 
thoughts or suggestions? 

Christian
Peer Gynt
1980 C 34







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Re: Stus-List Toe rail leak

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I'm still on my first or second bottle.  It goes a long way.

Dennis C.

On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Thanks.
>
> Follow-up question: a bottle of this stuff looks small.  How many will I
> need to do the toe rails (both sides) of a 42 (approximately)?
>
> *From:* Dennis C. via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 04, 2017 9:37 AM
> *To:* CnClist 
> *Cc:* Dennis C. 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Toe rail leak
>
> It will get sucked under the rail by capillary action.
>
> Dennis C.
>
> On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 8:22 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Not having use Captain Tolley’s, how do you get it to flow under the toe
>> rail?
>>
>> *From:* robert via CnC-List 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 04, 2017 8:20 AM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* robert 
>> *Subject:* Stus-List Toe rail leak
>>
>> I have done the same thing with Captain Tolley's liquid sealant both on
>> the toe rail(s) and I also do it on the wooden hand rails on the coach
>> roof.   When I did the handrails for the first few times, the liquid would
>> run under them and disappear.after a few applications, the liquid must
>> have filled all the cavities as it would begin to run down the side of
>> coach roof indicating it could not take any more.and no leaks since
>> with minimal effort.
>>
>> Rob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C 32 - 84
>> Halifax, N.S.
>>
>> On 2017-10-03 6:20 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
>>
>> I used to tighten the toe rail bolts.  No more.  I grew more concerned
>> about squeezing out all the butyl rubber.
>>
>> Now each year or two I simply run several beads of Captain Tolley's
>> Creeping Crack Cure down the toe rail / deck interface.  Cures fairly
>> quickly.  Run a bead, drink a beer.  Repeat as necessary.
>>
>> Haven't seen any significant leaks since I've been doing it.  Been
>> several years now since I adopted this practice.
>>
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Christian Planton via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I know my toe rail leaks in a couple of places. Has anybody redone the
>>> whole thing? If yes about how much time did it take you? I am going to try
>>> to tighten the bolts first. If that doesn't work I'm going to take out each
>>> bolt and try to get in there as much B-tape as possible and then tighten.
>>> Any other thoughts or suggestions?
>>>
>>> Christian
>>> Peer Gynt
>>> 1980 C 34
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Stus-List Toe rail leak

[William Hall via CnC-List]

I used less than a bottle to go around my 37.
I think it depends on how much butyl sealant is left in there / how many
voids there are.  Where there's a gap, it'll keep flowing in. On my toe
rails, it went in only a little before pooling at the edge of the toe rail.

On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Thanks.
>
> Follow-up question: a bottle of this stuff looks small.  How many will I
> need to do the toe rails (both sides) of a 42 (approximately)?
>
> *From:* Dennis C. via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 04, 2017 9:37 AM
> *To:* CnClist 
> *Cc:* Dennis C. 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Toe rail leak
>
> It will get sucked under the rail by capillary action.
>
> Dennis C.
>
> On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 8:22 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Not having use Captain Tolley’s, how do you get it to flow under the toe
>> rail?
>>
>> *From:* robert via CnC-List 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 04, 2017 8:20 AM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* robert 
>> *Subject:* Stus-List Toe rail leak
>>
>> I have done the same thing with Captain Tolley's liquid sealant both on
>> the toe rail(s) and I also do it on the wooden hand rails on the coach
>> roof.   When I did the handrails for the first few times, the liquid would
>> run under them and disappear.after a few applications, the liquid must
>> have filled all the cavities as it would begin to run down the side of
>> coach roof indicating it could not take any more.and no leaks since
>> with minimal effort.
>>
>> Rob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C 32 - 84
>> Halifax, N.S.
>>
>> On 2017-10-03 6:20 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
>>
>> I used to tighten the toe rail bolts.  No more.  I grew more concerned
>> about squeezing out all the butyl rubber.
>>
>> Now each year or two I simply run several beads of Captain Tolley's
>> Creeping Crack Cure down the toe rail / deck interface.  Cures fairly
>> quickly.  Run a bead, drink a beer.  Repeat as necessary.
>>
>> Haven't seen any significant leaks since I've been doing it.  Been
>> several years now since I adopted this practice.
>>
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Christian Planton via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I know my toe rail leaks in a couple of places. Has anybody redone the
>>> whole thing? If yes about how much time did it take you? I am going to try
>>> to tighten the bolts first. If that doesn't work I'm going to take out each
>>> bolt and try to get in there as much B-tape as possible and then tighten.
>>> Any other thoughts or suggestions?
>>>
>>> Christian
>>> Peer Gynt
>>> 1980 C 34
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Stus-List Toe rail leak

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

Thanks.

Follow-up question: a bottle of this stuff looks small.  How many will I need 
to do the toe rails (both sides) of a 42 (approximately)?

From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 9:37 AM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Toe rail leak

It will get sucked under the rail by capillary action.   

Dennis C.

On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 8:22 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  Not having use Captain Tolley’s, how do you get it to flow under the toe rail?

  From: robert via CnC-List 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 8:20 AM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: robert 
  Subject: Stus-List Toe rail leak

  I have done the same thing with Captain Tolley's liquid sealant both on the 
toe rail(s) and I also do it on the wooden hand rails on the coach roof.   When 
I did the handrails for the first few times, the liquid would run under them 
and disappear.after a few applications, the liquid must have filled all the 
cavities as it would begin to run down the side of coach roof indicating it 
could not take any more.and no leaks since with minimal effort.

  Rob Abbott
  AZURA
  C 32 - 84
  Halifax, N.S. 


  On 2017-10-03 6:20 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:

I used to tighten the toe rail bolts.  No more.  I grew more concerned 
about squeezing out all the butyl rubber. 

Now each year or two I simply run several beads of Captain Tolley's 
Creeping Crack Cure down the toe rail / deck interface.  Cures fairly quickly.  
Run a bead, drink a beer.  Repeat as necessary.

Haven't seen any significant leaks since I've been doing it.  Been several 
years now since I adopted this practice.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Christian Planton via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  I know my toe rail leaks in a couple of places. Has anybody redone the 
whole thing? If yes about how much time did it take you? I am going to try to 
tighten the bolts first. If that doesn't work I'm going to take out each bolt 
and try to get in there as much B-tape as possible and then tighten. Any other 
thoughts or suggestions? 

  Christian
  Peer Gynt
  1980 C 34






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Re: Stus-List Toe rail leak

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

I had to straighten a bit of my toe rail. I took it off to do so. 15 feet (one 
length) came off – about 55 bolts. Couldn’t get to some easily, should have 
removed the shelf in the vee berth area. A bear…. Two people about 5 hours.

 

But, two long strips of butyl, each bolt head coated with butyl (paint thinner 
takes that stuff off nicely) and careful tightening and another five or so 
hours with two people….

 

Not fun.

Gary Nylander

30-1

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Charlie 
Nelson via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2017 5:11 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: cenel...@aol.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Toe rail leak

 

Good luck with any 'spot' repairs. 

 

The yard just fixed a collision based leak of longstanding on my starboard bow 
quarter hull-deck joint and had to remove the bolts back to about mid-ship to 
get enough separation to reach the joint. This was about 6-8 times the

length of the leaking portion of the joint. On my boat, the toe rail is held on 
by the same bolts that hold the deck onto the hull.

 

Of course if its just the toe-rail (unlikely IMHO), removal doesn't require 
getting to and fixing any leaks at the hull-deck joint--but the bolts have to 
come off/be loosened either way.

If the rail was laid up with butyl, you may be able to squeeze it down by 
tightening only--but you must not allow the bolt to turn, only the nut, since 
the butyl seal depends on even pressure and turning

the bolt may cause the butyl to separate. 

 

In any case, you are looking at a 2 person job of many hours, assuming the nuts 
are all accessible without dismantling part of the inside of the cabin.

 

Also remember if you replace the butyl, tighten it up at least twice with a day 
or so between to allow the butyl to well set during the 2nd tightening. As the 
butyl 'oozes' out of the joint with pressure, the joint may become

physically loose again or at least it will not be as tight as it was after the 
first tightening.

 

FWIW

 

Charlie Nelson

Water Phantom

1995 C 36 XL/kcb

 

 

 

cenel...@aol.com  

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Christian Planton via CnC-List  >
To: cnc-list  >
Cc: Christian Planton  >
Sent: Tue, Oct 3, 2017 4:50 pm
Subject: Stus-List Toe rail leak

I know my toe rail leaks in a couple of places. Has anybody redone the whole 
thing? If yes about how much time did it take you? I am going to try to tighten 
the bolts first. If that doesn't work I'm going to take out each bolt and try 
to get in there as much B-tape as possible and then tighten. Any other thoughts 
or suggestions? 

 

Christian

Peer Gynt

1980 C 34


 

 

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Re: Stus-List Toe rail leak

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

That stuff is great on the original hatches too. Every fall I put it around any 
screw heads and cracks I can find. I guess one of these days I need to cut some 
new plexi for the hatches………..

Joe
Coquina C 35 MK I

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, October 4, 2017 9:38 AM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Toe rail leak

It will get sucked under the rail by capillary action.

Dennis C.

On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 8:22 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
> wrote:
Not having use Captain Tolley’s, how do you get it to flow under the toe rail?

From: robert via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 8:20 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: robert
Subject: Stus-List Toe rail leak

I have done the same thing with Captain Tolley's liquid sealant both on the toe 
rail(s) and I also do it on the wooden hand rails on the coach roof.   When I 
did the handrails for the first few times, the liquid would run under them and 
disappear.after a few applications, the liquid must have filled all the 
cavities as it would begin to run down the side of coach roof indicating it 
could not take any more.and no leaks since with minimal effort.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.
On 2017-10-03 6:20 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
I used to tighten the toe rail bolts.  No more.  I grew more concerned about 
squeezing out all the butyl rubber.

Now each year or two I simply run several beads of Captain Tolley's Creeping 
Crack Cure down the toe rail / deck interface.  Cures fairly quickly.  Run a 
bead, drink a beer.  Repeat as necessary.

Haven't seen any significant leaks since I've been doing it.  Been several 
years now since I adopted this practice.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Christian Planton via CnC-List 
> wrote:
I know my toe rail leaks in a couple of places. Has anybody redone the whole 
thing? If yes about how much time did it take you? I am going to try to tighten 
the bolts first. If that doesn't work I'm going to take out each bolt and try 
to get in there as much B-tape as possible and then tighten. Any other thoughts 
or suggestions?

Christian
Peer Gynt
1980 C 34





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Re: Stus-List Toe rail leak

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

It will get sucked under the rail by capillary action.

Dennis C.

On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 8:22 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Not having use Captain Tolley’s, how do you get it to flow under the toe
> rail?
>
> *From:* robert via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 04, 2017 8:20 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* robert 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Toe rail leak
>
> I have done the same thing with Captain Tolley's liquid sealant both on
> the toe rail(s) and I also do it on the wooden hand rails on the coach
> roof.   When I did the handrails for the first few times, the liquid would
> run under them and disappear.after a few applications, the liquid must
> have filled all the cavities as it would begin to run down the side of
> coach roof indicating it could not take any more.and no leaks since
> with minimal effort.
>
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.
>
> On 2017-10-03 6:20 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
>
> I used to tighten the toe rail bolts.  No more.  I grew more concerned
> about squeezing out all the butyl rubber.
>
> Now each year or two I simply run several beads of Captain Tolley's
> Creeping Crack Cure down the toe rail / deck interface.  Cures fairly
> quickly.  Run a bead, drink a beer.  Repeat as necessary.
>
> Haven't seen any significant leaks since I've been doing it.  Been several
> years now since I adopted this practice.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Christian Planton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I know my toe rail leaks in a couple of places. Has anybody redone the
>> whole thing? If yes about how much time did it take you? I am going to try
>> to tighten the bolts first. If that doesn't work I'm going to take out each
>> bolt and try to get in there as much B-tape as possible and then tighten.
>> Any other thoughts or suggestions?
>>
>> Christian
>> Peer Gynt
>> 1980 C 34
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

Not having use Captain Tolley’s, how do you get it to flow under the toe rail?

From: robert via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 8:20 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: robert 
Subject: Stus-List Toe rail leak

I have done the same thing with Captain Tolley's liquid sealant both on the toe 
rail(s) and I also do it on the wooden hand rails on the coach roof.   When I 
did the handrails for the first few times, the liquid would run under them and 
disappear.after a few applications, the liquid must have filled all the 
cavities as it would begin to run down the side of coach roof indicating it 
could not take any more.and no leaks since with minimal effort.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S. 


On 2017-10-03 6:20 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:

  I used to tighten the toe rail bolts.  No more.  I grew more concerned about 
squeezing out all the butyl rubber. 

  Now each year or two I simply run several beads of Captain Tolley's Creeping 
Crack Cure down the toe rail / deck interface.  Cures fairly quickly.  Run a 
bead, drink a beer.  Repeat as necessary.

  Haven't seen any significant leaks since I've been doing it.  Been several 
years now since I adopted this practice.

  Dennis C.
  Touche' 35-1 #83
  Mandeville, LA

  On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Christian Planton via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I know my toe rail leaks in a couple of places. Has anybody redone the 
whole thing? If yes about how much time did it take you? I am going to try to 
tighten the bolts first. If that doesn't work I'm going to take out each bolt 
and try to get in there as much B-tape as possible and then tighten. Any other 
thoughts or suggestions? 

Christian
Peer Gynt
1980 C 34









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Re: Stus-List Toe rail leaks

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Spencer — gee, my LF38 didn’t come with “backstage chocolate” or chocolate of 
any kind.  You’re a lucky fellow…   :^)

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

> On Oct 3, 2017, at 10:13 PM, ssjohnson via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Haven't had toe rail leaks that I know ofbut did remove the whole 
> backstage chocolate.  It was leaking into the bilge.  Bedded around the deck 
> with butyl tape years ago.  The deck opening was pretty generous.Bone dry 
> since.  The butyl just adheres well and remains supple.  
> Spencer johnson 
> '84 Landfall 38 #165 "Alegria "
> Racine, WI

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Stus-List Toe rail leak

[robert via CnC-List]

I have done the same thing with Captain Tolley's liquid sealant both on 
the toe rail(s) and I also do it on the wooden hand rails on the coach 
roof.   When I did the handrails for the first few times, the liquid 
would run under them and disappear.after a few applications, the 
liquid must have filled all the cavities as it would begin to run down 
the side of coach roof indicating it could not take any more.and no 
leaks since with minimal effort.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2017-10-03 6:20 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
I used to tighten the toe rail bolts.  No more.  I grew more concerned 
about squeezing out all the butyl rubber.


Now each year or two I simply run several beads of Captain Tolley's 
Creeping Crack Cure down the toe rail / deck interface.  Cures fairly 
quickly.  Run a bead, drink a beer. Repeat as necessary.


Haven't seen any significant leaks since I've been doing it.  Been 
several years now since I adopted this practice.


Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Christian Planton via CnC-List 
> wrote:


I know my toe rail leaks in a couple of places. Has anybody redone
the whole thing? If yes about how much time did it take you? I am
going to try to tighten the bolts first. If that doesn't work I'm
going to take out each bolt and try to get in there as much B-tape
as possible and then tighten. Any other thoughts or suggestions?

Christian
Peer Gynt
1980 C 34





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