Stus-List 37/40 for sale

[Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List]

I called the broker out of curiosity.  As I recall there is substantial 
delamination of the hull both above and below the waterline in the aft 
starboard quarter.  He seemed to think it was a $50k minimum repair job on the 
hull alone.  If you’re ambitious you can probably get her for less...much less 
that the offer.  

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera 
1990 C 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200
C 305.409.3660


> On Feb 26, 2019, at 8:01 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 19:52:35 -0600
> From: Brent Driedger 
> To: C List 
> Subject: Stus-List 37/40 for sale
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> Good evening. 
> While perusing Yacht World, I came across a 1990 37/40 for sale in Superior 
> for $34,500.  There?s a note indicating ?Dramatic Price Reduction due to 
> survey findings?. Does anyone know the history of this boat s/v Beau Geste?
> The photos show a beautiful boat but at 34.5k me thinks there is a severe 
> problem with the hull. 
> 
> Brent Driedger
> s/v Wild Rover
> 27-5
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Stus-List Lady Down...

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Hi Chuck,
I love the name of your boat, Tenacious.

Anything is repairable, it's just a matter of cost and time. Anything can be 
made strong and waterproof too. With today's materials, you can actually make 
it stronger and lighter. Think carbon fiber. But will you ever get that repair 
money back when you sell?

Why it fell would be telling. Did the yard fail to follow Brunell guidelines 
setting the stands? Were the footpads adequately sized for the ground 
underneath?

It sounds like the hull skin took the impact and cracked. Not the end of the 
world, as fiberglass can be cut out and replaced. The core too. Maybe the 
boatyard will feel guilty and jump on fixing your boat proper prior to sailing 
season. Timing is important. A proper survey will help your planning. Did the 
yard reset the boat up on stands? Is it safe to board her and look under the 
vee berth and check all the floor reenforcements? Check the mast step. Check 
motor mounts for shear stress.

OTOH, if your insurance is good, you might consider cashing out, and due to a 
sluggish used boat market.

BTW, I'm doing a refit myself of my boat. When I asked the yard for a price to 
make a few deck repairs, they said, "maybe it's time to walk away from that 
boat". They wanted more money to repair the deck than I could get if I sell 
her, so I'm doing it myself.

Chuck Scheaffer
1990 C 34R, Resolute


> On February 26, 2019 at 5:53 PM Chuck Borge via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Reaching out to Rob Ball with this one...  or maybe anyone who has dealt 
> with this kind of damage...
> It was my 41 that took a nose dive into the gravel yard this week.
> Two biggest areas of concern prior to her being righted and ready for a 
> full inspection are a stand that punctured the hull and stuck in about a 
> foot, and a "punch" on her nose that shows a crack that goes about 8-10 
> inches down and back on both sides of the bow, below the waterline.
> I'm hopeful that the impalement will not be the hardest repair.  On the 
> other hand, what structure lurks in the bow at/below the waterline that I 
> should be aware of?
> Thanks in advance for any information you can provide.  I probably won't 
> sleep until I have a plan of action from the yard, insurance...
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Chuck Borge
> Tenacious C 41
> 508-642-3557
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 2:51 PM Steve Staten via CnC-List < 
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> 
> > > My boat, C’Est La Vie, is in a slip on a marina that is 
> in a drowned ravine on the reservoir. It has an East/West axis. Last 
> December, a rare easterly storm threw high winds and waves down the length of 
> it. Many of us had our dock lines frayed to pieces in the tossing about. A 
> boat just down from me was de-masted because the stays were a bit loose.
> > 
> > I’m lucky. Only my dock lines were damaged. Now, I have an excuse 
> > to replace all of them.
> > 
> > Steve Staten
> > “C’Est La Vie”, C 26’
> > Langley, OK, USA
> >  
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Re: Stus-List Lady Down...

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Hi Michael,

Brunell boatstands are what I find in my area.  They have several great videos 
on Youtube of how to set them up properly.  One person can properly set them or 
later move them if he follows their guidelines.  Check out their video below.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW6eF--B_5o


Chuck S

> On February 26, 2019 at 7:23 PM Michael Brown via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I would be interested in some opinions on the use of stands. I am on the 
> Launch & Haulout
> team at the club I am at, chair for a few years. We have required cradles 
> for sailboats and
> have accepted stands for power boats by exception only.
> 
> Michael Brown
> Windburn
> C 30-1
> 
> > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 14:38:32 -0500
> > From: "Matthew L. Wolford" 
> > 
> > We had four large powerboats fall off jack stands in Erie.  The 
> > cradles all fared okay.
> > 
> > > 


 

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Re: Stus-List 33-2 Transom cracks

[Bruno Lachance via CnC-List]

I have a 87 33-2 and at least one of the corner has a gelcoat hairline crack, 
nothing serious or structural. I have this kind of hairline at few spots around 
the boat. I don't think this is from backstay tension.

Bruno Lachance
Bécassine
New Richmond, Qc

Envoyé de mon iPad

Le 26 févr. 2019 à 21:49, Wade Glew via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> a écrit :

I have not seen this on any of the four C 33 MKII in my harbour Brad. These 
boats are all 1986/87 hulls
Wade
Oh Boy C 33 MKII
Lake of the Woods

On Tue, Feb 26, 2019, 10:36 Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List, 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Our 33-2 has a crack on either side of the cut-out seat area on the transom, 
had a look at the other 33-2 here and it's cracked the same. Are there other 
C that are cracked here? Has anyone successfully fixed or reinforced these 
cracks? Ours has been repaired in the past, unsuccessfully. I think it might be 
related to the backstay tension, just my gut feeling. Any thoughts welcome.
Thanks
Brad
1985 C 33-2 Pulse
Lake Huron

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Re: Stus-List 33-2 Transom cracks

[Wade Glew via CnC-List]

I have not seen this on any of the four C 33 MKII in my harbour Brad.
These boats are all 1986/87 hulls
Wade
Oh Boy C 33 MKII
Lake of the Woods

On Tue, Feb 26, 2019, 10:36 Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List, <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Our 33-2 has a crack on either side of the cut-out seat area on the
> transom, had a look at the other 33-2 here and it's cracked the same. Are
> there other C that are cracked here? Has anyone successfully fixed or
> reinforced these cracks? Ours has been repaired in the past,
> unsuccessfully. I think it might be related to the backstay tension, just
> my gut feeling. Any thoughts welcome.
> Thanks
> Brad
> 1985 C 33-2 Pulse
> Lake Huron
>
> Anything worth doing requires sails!~~~_/)~~~
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Re: Stus-List 37/40 for sale

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Brent,

This boat  came up a few months ago.  As I recall someone had said the
owner was a bit of a jerk and the boat had had collision damage poorly
repaired.  A considerable amount of the port side hull would require
complete core repair.

The collective wisdom was to steer clear.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD




On Tue, Feb 26, 2019, 8:53 PM Brent Driedger via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Good evening.
> While perusing Yacht World, I came across a 1990 37/40 for sale in
> Superior for $34,500.  There’s a note indicating “Dramatic Price Reduction
> due to survey findings”. Does anyone know the history of this boat s/v Beau
> Geste?
> The photos show a beautiful boat but at 34.5k me thinks there is a severe
> problem with the hull.
>
> Brent Driedger
> s/v Wild Rover
> 27-5
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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Stus-List 37/40 for sale

[Brent Driedger via CnC-List]

Good evening. 
While perusing Yacht World, I came across a 1990 37/40 for sale in Superior for 
$34,500.  There’s a note indicating “Dramatic Price Reduction due to survey 
findings”. Does anyone know the history of this boat s/v Beau Geste?
The photos show a beautiful boat but at 34.5k me thinks there is a severe 
problem with the hull. 

Brent Driedger
s/v Wild Rover
27-5

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Re: Stus-List Lady Down...

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

To start with, I am sorry to hear the news. This is awful.

Our Club (Nepean Sailing Club in Ottawa, ON) does not allow any stands - only 
foldable cradles.

Probably for several reasons. I imagine that both stands and cradles can do 
well, if properly used and set up. However, the cradles need less 
preparation/fiddling around during the haul out. We do about 100 boats during 
the haul out/launch using a couple of commercial cranes and we are able to take 
a boat out of the water and put it in a cradle within about 10 min (7 min on 
average during the spring launch). Granted, this is a coordinated effort with 
two teams about 20-25 people each. I cannot imagine that this could be done 
with individual stands.

Another thought - we put about 400 boats in the yard; they are tightly packed. 
The boats at the perimeter all face the prevailing (strong) winds to limit the 
windage. Knock on wood, we did not have any boat falling off the cradle even 
though we had some decent winds (regularly we get 50+ kt. winds during the 
winter). We had a boat falling off the cradle a year and a half ago, but it was 
in the fall (most boats were still in the water), but at that time, the wind 
was registered around 85-90 kt. (micro burst).

Marek

1994 C270 ”Legato”
Ottawa, ON



From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Michael Brown via 
CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 19:24
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Michael Brown 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Lady Down...

I would be interested in some opinions on the use of stands. I am on the Launch 
& Haulout
team at the club I am at, chair for a few years. We have required cradles for 
sailboats and
have accepted stands for power boats by exception only.

Michael Brown
Windburn
C 30-1

Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 14:38:32 -0500
From: "Matthew L. Wolford" mailto:wolf...@erie.net>>

We had four large powerboats fall off jack stands in Erie.  The cradles all 
fared okay.
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Re: Stus-List Lady Down...

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Thanks for the note, Andy.  I'll anxiously wait for the wheels to get in
motion.  The pain of seeing my boat nose down in the gravel is hard, having
to wait for an action plan just adds to it.

*Chuck Borge*
*508-642-3557*


On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 6:04 PM Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> The insurance company will assign a surveyor to assess the damage. Try to
> be there when he is and go through everything with him. Talk to your agent.
> Feel free to pester him with questions and help moving things along. And
> then for dog's sake do not allow that yard to do any work on your boat! My
> new boat was there when I bought her a year ago and I had the feeling they
> hate sailboats and their owners and they know nothing about them.
> I've dealt with hundreds of yards and had pretty positive experiences with
> almost all. Borden Light was by far the worst!
> Andy
>
> Andrew Burton
> 139 Tuckerman Ave
> Middletown, RI
> USA02842
>
> www.burtonsailing.com
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
>
> On Feb 26, 2019, at 18:53, Chuck Borge via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> Reaching out to Rob Ball with this one...  or maybe anyone who has dealt
> with this kind of damage...
> It was my 41 that took a nose dive into the gravel yard this week.
> Two biggest areas of concern prior to her being righted and ready for a
> full inspection are a stand that punctured the hull and stuck in about a
> foot, and a "punch" on her nose that shows a crack that goes about 8-10
> inches down and back on both sides of the bow, below the waterline.
> I'm hopeful that the impalement will not be the hardest repair.  On the
> other hand, what structure lurks in the bow at/below the waterline that I
> should be aware of?
> Thanks in advance for any information you can provide.  I probably won't
> sleep until I have a plan of action from the yard, insurance...
>
> Best regards,
>
> *Chuck Borge*
> *Tenacious C 41*
> *508-642-3557*
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 2:51 PM Steve Staten via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> My boat, C’Est La Vie, is in a slip on a marina that is in a drowned
>> ravine on the reservoir. It has an East/West axis. Last December, a rare
>> easterly storm threw high winds and waves down the length of it. Many of us
>> had our dock lines frayed to pieces in the tossing about. A boat just down
>> from me was de-masted because the stays were a bit loose.
>> I’m lucky. Only my dock lines were damaged. Now, I have an excuse to
>> replace all of them.
>> Steve Staten
>> “C’Est La Vie”, C 26’
>> Langley, OK, USA
>>
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Re: Stus-List Lady Down...

[Michael Brown via CnC-List]

I would be interested in some opinions on the use of stands. I am on the Launch 
& Haulout
team at the club I am at, chair for a few years. We have required cradles for 
sailboats and
have accepted stands for power boats by exception only.


Michael Brown
Windburn
C 30-1

 
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 14:38:32 -0500 
From: "Matthew L. Wolford"  

We had four large powerboats fall off jack stands in Erie.  The cradles all 
fared okay. 
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Re: Stus-List Lady Down...

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

The insurance company will assign a surveyor to assess the damage. Try to be 
there when he is and go through everything with him. Talk to your agent. Feel 
free to pester him with questions and help moving things along. And then for 
dog's sake do not allow that yard to do any work on your boat! My new boat was 
there when I bought her a year ago and I had the feeling they hate sailboats 
and their owners and they know nothing about them.
I've dealt with hundreds of yards and had pretty positive experiences with 
almost all. Borden Light was by far the worst!
Andy

Andrew Burton
139 Tuckerman Ave
Middletown, RI 
USA02842

www.burtonsailing.com
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Feb 26, 2019, at 18:53, Chuck Borge via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Reaching out to Rob Ball with this one...  or maybe anyone who has dealt with 
> this kind of damage...
> It was my 41 that took a nose dive into the gravel yard this week.
> Two biggest areas of concern prior to her being righted and ready for a full 
> inspection are a stand that punctured the hull and stuck in about a foot, and 
> a "punch" on her nose that shows a crack that goes about 8-10 inches down and 
> back on both sides of the bow, below the waterline.
> I'm hopeful that the impalement will not be the hardest repair.  On the other 
> hand, what structure lurks in the bow at/below the waterline that I should be 
> aware of?
> Thanks in advance for any information you can provide.  I probably won't 
> sleep until I have a plan of action from the yard, insurance...
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Chuck Borge
> Tenacious C 41
> 508-642-3557
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 2:51 PM Steve Staten via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> My boat, C’Est La Vie, is in a slip on a marina that is in a drowned ravine 
>> on the reservoir. It has an East/West axis. Last December, a rare easterly 
>> storm threw high winds and waves down the length of it. Many of us had our 
>> dock lines frayed to pieces in the tossing about. A boat just down from me 
>> was de-masted because the stays were a bit loose.
>> I’m lucky. Only my dock lines were damaged. Now, I have an excuse to replace 
>> all of them.
>> Steve Staten
>> “C’Est La Vie”, C 26’
>> Langley, OK, USA
>>  
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Re: Stus-List Lady Down...

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Reaching out to Rob Ball with this one...  or maybe anyone who has dealt
with this kind of damage...
It was my 41 that took a nose dive into the gravel yard this week.
Two biggest areas of concern prior to her being righted and ready for a
full inspection are a stand that punctured the hull and stuck in about a
foot, and a "punch" on her nose that shows a crack that goes about 8-10
inches down and back on both sides of the bow, below the waterline.
I'm hopeful that the impalement will not be the hardest repair.  On the
other hand, what structure lurks in the bow at/below the waterline that I
should be aware of?
Thanks in advance for any information you can provide.  I probably won't
sleep until I have a plan of action from the yard, insurance...

Best regards,

*Chuck Borge*
*Tenacious C 41*
*508-642-3557*


On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 2:51 PM Steve Staten via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> My boat, C’Est La Vie, is in a slip on a marina that is in a drowned
> ravine on the reservoir. It has an East/West axis. Last December, a rare
> easterly storm threw high winds and waves down the length of it. Many of us
> had our dock lines frayed to pieces in the tossing about. A boat just down
> from me was de-masted because the stays were a bit loose.
> I’m lucky. Only my dock lines were damaged. Now, I have an excuse to
> replace all of them.
> Steve Staten
> “C’Est La Vie”, C 26’
> Langley, OK, USA
>
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Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 157, Issue 59

[Christian Planton via CnC-List]

My boat is still in the water at Saugatuck Harbor Yacht Club in Westport,
CT. We have a great bubblier system. Dirt cheap in the winter in a well
protected harbor. (It is open to the public to winter there. Half the
members pull their boats/ half don't) During Sandy our club house had two
feet of water but not a single boat that stayed in the water had damage.
Some that took their boats out in a neighboring town where floated of their
stands.  Went down there yesterday at 10pm ish. The wind had pushed the
water out of the basin to a level I've never seen it that low. The docks
near shore where in the mud and you could see the bottom of the pilings. I
usually have water under my keel at low tide but last night it was in the
mud. Boat was upright held there by the dock lines.  Luckly we have a soft
mud bottom. Lots of wind pushing about 100 or so boats with covers or
shrink wrap on. I saw no damage but a couple of kayaks and boards that were
not tied down well got blown around. Interesting to walk down those docks
with that much wind. They were getting pushed around. I looked like a
drunken sailor. Does anybody know of a yard that actually ties boats on the
hard down?

Hope the damage was minimal!
Christian
Peer Gyth
C 34 1980
Saugatuck, ct


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> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 12:15:20 -0500
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Lady Down...
> Unfortunately my boat was the first in line. A C that we’ve had just
> under a year.
> Not a good scene.
> Hoping we all come out ok.
> Chuck B
>
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:50 AM, David via CnC-List 
> wrote:
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> One of our brethren, Double Black, a C & C 40, owned by Adam Marks, was
> tumbled upon in the hard and fell over.  High winds, flapping canvas and
> un-stepped masts all contributed to the 3 boat domino effect.   Oddly
> enough the first boat was also a C 37/40 I believe.
>
> Double Black attended a number of our New England Rendezvouss.
>
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> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 17:29:48 +
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Lady Down...
>
> Sorry for all of you. Hope things work out and damage can be repaired.
>
>
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> *From:* CnC-List  on behalf of Chuck Borge
> via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2019 12:15:20 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Chuck Borge
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Lady Down...
>
> Unfortunately my boat was the first in line. A C that we’ve had just
> under a year.
> Not a good scene.
> Hoping we all come out ok.
> Chuck B
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:50 AM, David via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> One of our brethren, Double Black, a C & C 40, owned by Adam Marks, was
> tumbled upon in the hard and fell over.  High winds, flapping canvas and
> un-stepped masts all contributed to the 3 boat domino effect.   Oddly
> enough the first boat was also a C 37/40 I believe.
>
> Double Black attended a number of our New England Rendezvouss.
>
> >From my Android
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Re: Stus-List Lady Down...

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

My boat, C'Est La Vie, is in a slip on a marina that is in a drowned ravine on 
the reservoir. It has an East/West axis. Last December, a rare easterly storm 
threw high winds and waves down the length of it. Many of us had our dock lines 
frayed to pieces in the tossing about. A boat just down from me was de-masted 
because the stays were a bit loose.
I'm lucky. Only my dock lines were damaged. Now, I have an excuse to replace 
all of them.
Steve Staten
"C'Est La Vie", C 26'
Langley, OK, USA

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Re: Stus-List Lady Down...

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

We had four large powerboats fall off jack stands in Erie.  The cradles all 
fared okay.

From: David via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 1:34 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: David 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Lady Down...

Jack stands...big  winds (gusting to 60) here in Southcoast MA yesterday.


David F. Risch, J. D.

Gulf Stream Associates, LLC  


(401) 419-4650 






From: CnC-List  on behalf of Matthew L. Wolford 
via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 1:05 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Matthew L. Wolford
Subject: Re: Stus-List Lady Down... 

Cradles or jack stands?

From: John Irvin via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 12:29 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: John Irvin 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Lady Down...

Sorry for all of you. Hope things work out and damage can be repaired.



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From: CnC-List  on behalf of Chuck Borge via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 12:15:20 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chuck Borge
Subject: Re: Stus-List Lady Down... 

Unfortunately my boat was the first in line. A C that we’ve had just under 
a year.  
Not a good scene. 
Hoping we all come out ok. 
Chuck B



Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:50 AM, David via CnC-List  wrote:


  One of our brethren, Double Black, a C & C 40, owned by Adam Marks, was 
tumbled upon in the hard and fell over.  High winds, flapping canvas and 
un-stepped masts all contributed to the 3 boat domino effect.   Oddly enough 
the first boat was also a C 37/40 I believe.  


  Double Black attended a number of our New England Rendezvouss.   


  From my Android

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Re: Stus-List Lady Down...

[David via CnC-List]

Jack stands...big  winds (gusting to 60) here in Southcoast MA yesterday.


David F. Risch, J. D.

Gulf Stream Associates, LLC

(401) 419-4650


From: CnC-List  on behalf of Matthew L. Wolford 
via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 1:05 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Matthew L. Wolford
Subject: Re: Stus-List Lady Down...

Cradles or jack stands?

From: John Irvin via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 12:29 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: John Irvin
Subject: Re: Stus-List Lady Down...


Sorry for all of you. Hope things work out and damage can be repaired.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10




From: CnC-List  on behalf of Chuck Borge via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 12:15:20 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chuck Borge
Subject: Re: Stus-List Lady Down...

Unfortunately my boat was the first in line. A C that we’ve had just under 
a year.
Not a good scene.
Hoping we all come out ok.
Chuck B


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:50 AM, David via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

One of our brethren, Double Black, a C & C 40, owned by Adam Marks, was tumbled 
upon in the hard and fell over.  High winds, flapping canvas and un-stepped 
masts all contributed to the 3 boat domino effect.   Oddly enough the first 
boat was also a C 37/40 I believe.

Double Black attended a number of our New England Rendezvouss.

>From my Android

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Stus-List Lady Down...

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

Sorry to hear this ☹
This happened to us around 1986 or so and then the yard had no insurance and 
went bankrupt ☹
$45,000 worth of repairs later…….Coquina sailed again ☺


Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C 35 MK I


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Re: Stus-List Lady Down...

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

so sorry to hear about this...  Good luck with the aftermath...

On 2/26/2019 12:15 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List wrote:
Unfortunately my boat was the first in line. A C that we’ve had 
just under a year.

Not a good scene.
Hoping we all come out ok.
Chuck B


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:50 AM, David via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


One of our brethren, Double Black, a C & C 40, owned by Adam Marks, 
was tumbled upon in the hard and fell over.  High winds, flapping 
canvas and un-stepped masts all contributed to the 3 boat domino 
effect.   Oddly enough the first boat was also a C 37/40 I 
believe.


Double Black attended a number of our New England Rendezvouss.

From my Android

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Re: Stus-List Lady Down...

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

Cradles or jack stands?

From: John Irvin via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 12:29 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: John Irvin 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Lady Down...

Sorry for all of you. Hope things work out and damage can be repaired.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 




From: CnC-List  on behalf of Chuck Borge via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 12:15:20 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chuck Borge
Subject: Re: Stus-List Lady Down... 

Unfortunately my boat was the first in line. A C that we’ve had just under 
a year.  
Not a good scene. 
Hoping we all come out ok. 
Chuck B



Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:50 AM, David via CnC-List  wrote:


  One of our brethren, Double Black, a C & C 40, owned by Adam Marks, was 
tumbled upon in the hard and fell over.  High winds, flapping canvas and 
un-stepped masts all contributed to the 3 boat domino effect.   Oddly enough 
the first boat was also a C 37/40 I believe.  


  Double Black attended a number of our New England Rendezvouss.   


  From my Android

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Re: Stus-List Lady Down...

[John Irvin via CnC-List]

Sorry for all of you. Hope things work out and damage can be repaired.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10


From: CnC-List  on behalf of Chuck Borge via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 12:15:20 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Chuck Borge
Subject: Re: Stus-List Lady Down...

Unfortunately my boat was the first in line. A C that we’ve had just under 
a year.
Not a good scene.
Hoping we all come out ok.
Chuck B


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:50 AM, David via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

One of our brethren, Double Black, a C & C 40, owned by Adam Marks, was tumbled 
upon in the hard and fell over.  High winds, flapping canvas and un-stepped 
masts all contributed to the 3 boat domino effect.   Oddly enough the first 
boat was also a C 37/40 I believe.

Double Black attended a number of our New England Rendezvouss.

>From my Android

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Re: Stus-List Lady Down...

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Unfortunately my boat was the first in line. A C that we’ve had just under 
a year. 
Not a good scene. 
Hoping we all come out ok. 
Chuck B


Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:50 AM, David via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> One of our brethren, Double Black, a C & C 40, owned by Adam Marks, was 
> tumbled upon in the hard and fell over.  High winds, flapping canvas and 
> un-stepped masts all contributed to the 3 boat domino effect.   Oddly enough 
> the first boat was also a C 37/40 I believe.  
> 
> Double Black attended a number of our New England Rendezvouss.   
> 
> From my Android
> 
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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Avon and engine...

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I would think about scavenging Craigslist for another light 2-stroke. My 15 HP 
2-stroke weighs 75 pounds or so and it goes on in March and comes off in 
December. There is no way I would have that engine if I have a soft inflatable 
that needed the engine taken on and off more than once a year.
This site usually has some:
https://www.smalloutboards.com/


Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C 35 MK I



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via 
CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:12 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: David 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Avon and engine...

4 cycle 85 lbs...2 cycle 40.
>From my Android


From: David mailto:davidrisc...@msn.com>>
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 2:54:28 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: ALAN BERGEN
Subject: Re: Stus-List Avon and engine...

Yes its definately heavier.   Will weigh when back at house.
>From my Android


From: CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> on behalf 
of ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 2:38:19 PM
To: C
Cc: ALAN BERGEN
Subject: Re: Stus-List Avon and engine...

Your 4 cycle eight is a lot heavier than your 2 cycle four. Might make the boat 
out of balance.

On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 10:48 AM David via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I have a 9' high pressure floor Avon that is in good shap.  My 4hp 2cycle died. 
 I have a barely used 4 cycle mercury 8hp that I would like to throw on it to 
save buying a new boat or motor.  Avon spec plate says max HP is 6 hp.   I am 
thinking that as long as I dont hot-rod  the dink I should be able to get away 
with it?

Or am I missing something...

Thanks in advance.


David F. Risch, J. D.

Gulf Stream Associates, LLC

(401) 419-4650
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Stus-List 33-2 Transom cracks

[Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List]

Our 33-2 has a crack on either side of the cut-out seat area on the transom, 
had a look at the other 33-2 here and it's cracked the same. Are there other 
C that are cracked here? Has anyone successfully fixed or reinforced these 
cracks? Ours has been repaired in the past, unsuccessfully. I think it might be 
related to the backstay tension, just my gut feeling. Any thoughts welcome.
Thanks
Brad
1985 C 33-2 Pulse
Lake Huron

Anything worth doing requires sails!~~~_/)~~~
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Re: Stus-List Avon and engine...

[David via CnC-List]

4 cycle 85 lbs...2 cycle 40.

>From my Android


From: David 
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 2:54:28 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: ALAN BERGEN
Subject: Re: Stus-List Avon and engine...

Yes its definately heavier.   Will weigh when back at house.

>From my Android


From: CnC-List  on behalf of ALAN BERGEN via 
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Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 2:38:19 PM
To: C
Cc: ALAN BERGEN
Subject: Re: Stus-List Avon and engine...

Your 4 cycle eight is a lot heavier than your 2 cycle four. Might make the boat 
out of balance.

On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 10:48 AM David via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I have a 9' high pressure floor Avon that is in good shap.  My 4hp 2cycle died. 
 I have a barely used 4 cycle mercury 8hp that I would like to throw on it to 
save buying a new boat or motor.  Avon spec plate says max HP is 6 hp.   I am 
thinking that as long as I dont hot-rod  the dink I should be able to get away 
with it?

Or am I missing something...

Thanks in advance.


David F. Risch, J. D.

Gulf Stream Associates, LLC

(401) 419-4650

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Stus-List Lady Down...

[David via CnC-List]

One of our brethren, Double Black, a C & C 40, owned by Adam Marks, was tumbled 
upon in the hard and fell over.  High winds, flapping canvas and un-stepped 
masts all contributed to the 3 boat domino effect.   Oddly enough the first 
boat was also a C 37/40 I believe.

Double Black attended a number of our New England Rendezvouss.

>From my Android

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